/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4567752]

If YOU yes you had ACTUAL REAL GAINS in your ability to draw humans because you grinded boxes or perspective, please post your work here. A lot of fundiesfags talk a big game about how fundies lets you easily draw anything from imagination, but then they get awfully shy when you ask them to post their work. I will admit that fundiesfags do occasionally come through and post good work, but most of the people who do that attribute their gains to anatomy studies, not to Scott Robertson style stuff. When I watch pros draw, they never draw out actual boxes or perspective grids, which is why I'm suspicious that it actually helps.
Just a confused noob trying to make it in the world. I want to see proof with my own two eyes that something actually works before I sink time into it. Thank you and God bless.

[Anonymous No.4567768]

>>4567752

[Anonymous No.4567770]

[Anonymous No.4567806]

>>4567768
how much study did it take to get to that point?

[Anonymous No.4567870]

>>4567752
It's not about drawing a box everytime you draw, it's about understanding 3D space, and the box is the simplest 3D object, it's useful for learning, but you can understand 3D by other means.

[Anonymous No.4567880]

>>4567752
>not to Scott Robertson style stuff
No fucking shit you absolute retard. Robertson is not for figure drawing.

[Anonymous No.4567885]

>>4567880
Lots of /ic/ says otherwise.

[Anonymous No.4567890]

>>4567752
>Michelangelo didn’t draw boxes
>Rembrandt didn’t draw boxes
No one fucking grinds boxes, except redditors and drawabox followers

[Anonymous No.4567917]

It's useless if you want to draw humans, If you want to draw scenery it's pretty useful since every line can be interpreted as a box in some way.
I've had years of perspective training and I still can't draw humans because I don't have knowledge of the actual subject of the drawing, i.e. humans.

[Anonymous No.4567921]

>>4567752
I have the most ACTUAL REAL GAINS when I draw the most.

Stop trying to find a way to put the least possible effort into drawing and instead put the most possible effort into it, ffs.

tl;dr JUST DRAW

[Anonymous No.4567938]

Frank Frazetta learned a lot from Bridgman's Life Drawing book.
It talks a lot about simplifying the human body into cubes simple shapes and planes.

If you have ever seen frank Frazetta's stuff he has an incredible grasp on anatomy.

[Anonymous No.4567946]

>>4567938

[Anonymous No.4567960]

>>4567946
I'm always surprised by that one, that it doesn't look like it got touched up much
Frank had a tendency to go back and paint-over/redo paintings, to the point that the paint on the ass on one of the girls started to crack.

[Anonymous No.4567962]

>>4567752
>Pros don't draw boxes LUL

Reading that while looking at KJG drawing exactly that on my second screen.

If you are drawing a person with a simple standing pose at a flat angle you don't need perspective fundies. As soon as you begin using cinematic angles (extreme low angles, top angles, dynamic perspective etc ...) with action poses, anatomy alone won't help you. It's gonna look flat and boring you don't visualize a bounding box in perspective.

[Anonymous No.4567977]

>>4567946
lmao, are you joking? the painting is good but the anatomy is terrible. people on /beg/ could do better. look at the size of his head

[Anonymous No.4567986]

I did the fundies and stuff. Now the slightest mistake in perspective puts me off. so usually I'll just opt for using 3d software if i'm going for complex geometry. still good to study your fundies so you can quickly paintover the work if your clients needs changes.

[Anonymous No.4567992]

>>4567986
What 3d software you use primarily for backgrounds/greyboxes?

[Anonymous No.4568004]

>>4567885
lots of /ic/ is retarded. Stuff from this book can technically be used for figure drawing but its mainly targeted towards concept designers and so goes in lots of details of perspective that are useless for figure drawing but not for vehicles or mechanical stuff.
If you just want to learn perspective to draw humans , pick up ''Perspective made easy''.

[Anonymous No.4568038]

>>4567770

[Anonymous No.4568044]

>>4567992
>>4567992
Blender is the bomb. Can do a lot with it.
Also consider making a 3d kit bash library.
When i first started 3d i was soo slow. But with adjusting already existing 3d models its no competition,

[Anonymous No.4568046]

>>4568044
Im trying to get into sketchup, I’m too much of an idiot when it comes to 3d stuff. Already played with it a bunch and made some nice backgrounds and fidgeted with the settings.

[Anonymous No.4568049]

>>4567890
Someone been skipping on vilppu videos, where he showed renaissance sketches with figures made out of boxes

[Anonymous No.4568051]

>>4568049
Not him but something like this?
Boxes can be dynamic if you actually did gestures.

[Anonymous No.4568052]

>>4568046
Just ease into it. watch a tutorial, try to use it in your work until you don't have to google the menu's anymore. then watch the next and continue.

Sketchup is very nice just it doesn't have a renderer attached which blender does have. although you can also learn a standalone render like octane or a really simple one like keyshot.

[Anonymous No.4568054]

>>4568052
Thanks anyway, the shadow option that sketchup has is good enough for me. I remember trying to get into blender when I was 13, imagine if I actually carried through with it I wouldn’t become a 2d artist and probably end up doing 3d.

[Anonymous No.4568069]

>>4568054
It's whatever your goals are. I all ways find new compositions i would have never discovered without a camera to turnaround the subject.
Also for a illustration like this for example. No way I was gonna draw all those circles.

[Anonymous No.4568173]

My mom actually got me to grind boxes when I was a little kid by challenging me. She said if I could turn a cube then I'd really know how to draw, so I did pages and pages of cubes trying to make them at different angles. It helped my understanding of 3D space so much.

[Anonymous No.4568177]

>>4567770
kek

[Anonymous No.4568196]

>>4568038
based. also cute

[Anonymous No.4568200]

>>4568173
based mom

[Anonymous No.4568207]

>>4567768
peak autism

[Anonymous No.4568268]

I haven't even gotten to perspective yet and I almost burnt out on Loomis twice. I'm kind of enjoying the grind a bit more now, like learning a tune.
plz feedback

[Anonymous No.4568296]

>>4567885
>Lots of /ic/ says otherwise.
Yeah...no. I bet you're confusing Robertson with Hampton.

[Anonymous No.4568581]

>>4568268
>plz feedback
...do you have any finished pieces?

[Anonymous No.4568823]

I've been doing skillshare courses, I've been watching Brent Eviston's classes. He has eveything from the fundamentals to full gesture drawing courses. Im doing his gesture drawing course right now and compared to when I started i'd say ive improved drastically from only being able to draw anime heads/faces. His courses, depending on the one you choose, are 1hr to 11hr courses broken up into 18 to 20min videos in said playlist. for me it's really good because I don't really want to read and i'd perfer a hands on approach to learning how to draw. On the left is all I could try to churn out after and hour of headaches the right is from his 3min practice reel I did. I'm still bad but hey we've gotta earn our progression

[Anonymous No.4569036]

>>4567921
>>4567752
based

only good advice ITT

[Anonymous No.4569062]

>>4567768
damn nigga you could've just drawn an egg and a box for the jaw then tweaked the shit on top

[Anonymous No.4569064]

>>4568038
now add sweat drips and visible breathing and you'll have unironically drawn my fetish

[Anonymous No.4569065]

>>4568173
can i get your mum's number

[Anonymous No.4570459]

>>4568173
blog?