/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4561356]

F YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

previous >>4556386

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

[Anonymous No.4561364]

Drawings from imagination 1 month apart. Any improvement?

[Anonymous No.4561367]

>>4561356
Some ground rules to start this thread and the next /beg/ threads off:

>if you are /beg/
Don't ever give advice.
You can relate and share your hardships with other /beg/s, but never give them advice.
If you MUST give advice, start the reply off with "I'm beg, but what worked for me is..."

>Before you post your work
1. Every person giving advice here expects for you to have at least read some of the sticky, and that you already know what you should be doing to improve.
In that light, replies such as "grind more fundamentals" are perfectly viable advice.
We expect you to know what the general fundamentals are (gesture, anatomy, perspective, drapery, etc.), and we expect you to know where you can find resources to practice these subjects.
Sometimes literally the only good advice to give is to practice more and improve you technique.

2. DO NOT post your 5 minute sketches that you didn't put much thought into. If you do post them then make sure to ask for SPECIFIC advice on a specific subject.
If you post a doodle and ask "where did i go wrong" or "how should I continue from here", expect to get meme replies such as "Loomis".

Follow these simple rules and the generals will become much more productive for both the /beg/s and the people giving advice

[Anonymous No.4561369]

Threadly ref

[Anonymous No.4561374]

Reposting from last thread cause I got in at the end.

Self crit:
Nostrils fucked and shoud be bigger
Perspective on the eyes is wrong, we're looking from above.
Hairline looks weird but might be due to the lazy hairdo I chose.

Any comments are appreciated.

[Anonymous No.4561375]

>>4561364
you're starting to see things in 3D and slowly escaping the symbols. But you're still shit at construction.

[Anonymous No.4561388]

>>4561375
any good advice or books or practices for construction?

[Anonymous No.4561390]

>>4561374
Can you post the sketch?
It's hard to tell where someone went wrong without seeing the steps.

[Anonymous No.4561400]

>>4561374
you self-criticized the least important shit.
The entire structure of the head is fucked, the neck doesn't connect to the head like that.
Looks like some one drew eyes nose and mouth on a stump of wood and then put a hairpiece on it.
Honestly don't even try doing difficult perspectives before you have good control on the head and face.

[Anonymous No.4561402]

>>4561390
As requested. Thanks in advance

[Anonymous No.4561406]

[Anonymous No.4561407]

Trying to draw people of different races from imagination.

[Anonymous No.4561416]

>>4561400
Thanks for the comments, I added the neck as an afterthought which is probably why I fucked it.

If you were to disregard the neck completely, would you still say it's all fucked? I'm obviously the /beg/gest /beg/ but it doesn't look all bad to me.

[Anonymous No.4561423]

>>4561374
I wouldn't change anything about appleman but his head should be painted green/red as an apple

[Anonymous No.4561424]

>>4561402
Your sketch looks alright from what I can tell.
I think your biggest issue is actually drawing the features.
Did you use a ref for this?
If not, you should start using refs for your drawings since the only way to learn how to draw eyes, mouths and noses is to draw from references.
As for the hair, you might want to add a couple of strands of hair in there to give it some volume, it looks very flat if you only draw the outline of the hair. Just a couple of lines following the shape of the head should be fine and make it look more 3d

[Anonymous No.4561425]

>>4561416
The whole thing looks really bad, yeah.

[Anonymous No.4561429]

>>4561364
Hey man are you the tranny poster? I've been missing you

[Anonymous No.4561432]

>>4561424
I drew it from imagination with no refs yeah, as a challenge since it's way harder than using a reference (to me at least).

I'll be off to practice more features then, thanks for the feedback.

It's actually pretty funny cause on another drawing I posted the critique I got was that the features were okay but the sketch and skeleton was all fucked so at least I'm glad I made some progress on this.

[Anonymous No.4561435]

>>4561423
Dang he does look a little fruity doesn't he

[Anonymous No.4561437]

>>4561356
The absolute state of this thread, the previous link takes me to two treads ago
WTF OP

[Anonymous No.4561441]

>>4561416
It's just one of those cases where a /beg/ attempts a new angle he never tried and ends up defaulting to a more familiar angle halfway through the drawing. You basically stitched together 2 angles here which I'm guessing is the reason why your head came out elongated as fuck and the features placed in awkward places.
As I said before just practice normal perspecives like profile, 3/4th, and front view until you get a very good intuition about the general anatomy of the head. I know it can be boring to grind the same perspectives many times, but it has to be done.

[Anonymous No.4561447]

>>4561437
It's a retard phoneposter who probably copied the last thread's OP.

[Anonymous No.4561452]

>>4561441
Thanks for the advice man appreciated.

[Anonymous No.4561459]

>>4561429
>tranny
Not cool.
/ic/ is a progressive board.

[Anonymous No.4561465]

[Anonymous No.4561484]

>>4561356
Hot.

[Anonymous No.4561490]

[Anonymous No.4561493]

>>4561435
It doesn't look fruity just to say he looks like a fruit. He looks like a literal apple with a little branch coming out of the top.
Usually when the hair looks a bit messy you don't see a single string of hair raising on the top of the hair sticking out like a branch, now if you ask me appleman is a really cool and interesting concept. Add more waves to the air so it doesn't like a single block or a helmet or remove the branch on the top.
Face looks blocky, mouth should be higher and the ear is too big and you certainly can improve these things by practicing more but nothing bothers me more that the apple-ish look.

[Anonymous No.4561499]

The pesky burnout/nihilism feeling is back again bros.

[Anonymous No.4561513]

Sooooooo fucking many drawing manuals skip an essential part of the process and that's how to place the paper, how to hold the pencils, and how to sit/stand. Seeing the hand/arm gestures of an artist in a video helped me progress more than hundreds of pages of drawing manuals.

[Anonymous No.4561531]

>>4561465
Try out your poses infront of a mirror to see if the body can stay stable like that

[Anonymous No.4561538]

I keep getting banned for trolling. GAY. Tranny mods are just mad that I’m better at drawing than they are. Get gud fags

[Anonymous No.4561541]

>>4561513
Try reading instead of just looking the pictures

[Anonymous No.4561544]

>>4561513
Well Anon you're basically implying that there's only one way to place the paper, hold the pencils, sit/stand and that there's an official hand/arm gesture.
None of the things you mention actually help you on improving your art unless you're a complete beginner who haven't hold a pencil in his life.
But if it helped you to learn common sense then it's alright I guess.

[Anonymous No.4561550]

>>4561541
>>4561544
Okay, please recreate this stroke and post a photo of what you made

[Anonymous No.4561553]

>>4561544
You can hold a pencil the wrong way your whole life and create a bad habit, just like playing guitar. If you get in the habit of holding your pick wrong, you wont see any immediately noticeable difference but for all intents and purposes it is decreasing the overall quality because you are not using your joints properly. You may not notice it because you have habituated yourself to shit posture. It’s not a big deal but you could probably save yourself a lot of joint pain over time by holding your pencil properly, just like other joint intensive activities. Have proper posture, it’s real. Even pianists try to sit properly so that their body is moving in harmony. You have to keep this in mind if you want a good workflow or you’ll always be getting into ruts and not going as long as possible or keeping peak attention on your work

[Anonymous No.4561578]

>>4561550
Most importantly you should be showing me how did it improve your art because I think it's a conclusion you came up on your own rather than the reality of things
>>4561553
C'mon Anon it's two different things, your example might fool somebody who doesn't play guitar.
You guys are basically denying there's different grips to hold the the pencil. Be realistic and don't make an argument just for the sake of making an argument

[Anonymous No.4561589]

>>4561553
Good posture isn't rocket science, it's not so incomprehensibly complex that you need an art book to teach it to you. Just fucking sit straight and don't hold your pencil to hard.

[Anonymous No.4561597]

How do I make my brain stop going so fast? I can never plan anything and just rely on guessing and immediate instinct. I don't know how to do it any other way. I'm too shy to post my work.

[Anonymous No.4561599]

>>4561578
A beginner will have no fucking clue which grip produces which effect with which tool. Someone who predominantly used a mechanical pencil or a pen in school looking at a charcoal shaded drawing will have no clue how it was created and might feel discouraged just from trying to decipher it.

[Anonymous No.4561609]

>>4561597
uninstall tiktok instagram discord facebook twitter
stop watching youtube videos that are purely for entertainment
stop mindlessly scrolling the the catalog
go monk mode and urine retention
supplement ashwaganda and zinc.

[Anonymous No.4561610]

>>4561484
GOD I want to impregnate her so hard bros

[Anonymous No.4561621]

>>4561609
>uninstall tiktok instagram discord facebook twitter
>stop watching youtube videos that are purely for entertainment
The sad thing is I already don't do that.

[Anonymous No.4561668]

>>4561609
Based

[Anonymous No.4561670]

>>4561369
Pretty ugly so far

[Anonymous No.4561674]

>>4561369
what does it feels to be beautiful?

[Anonymous No.4561676]

[Anonymous No.4561703]

Loomis is fun.
Strangely, I seem to sketch better with colors instead of pencil, why is that?

[Anonymous No.4561706]

Пpивeт /beg/ friends

[Anonymous No.4561711]

How did asukafag become high tier beg? What was his technique? Was it talent?

[Anonymous No.4561719]

Is proko good for figure drawing

[Anonymous No.4561725]

.

[Anonymous No.4561727]

>>4561725
Did you make that anon? That's really good!
>>4561711
Who?

[Anonymous No.4561736]

gesture prac

[Anonymous No.4561744]

The stress of breaking momentum is so strong. There's not enough hours in the day to do this all the time, but when I stop for a few days it feels like I have completely failed. This is agonising.

[Anonymous No.4561753]

>>4561538
You're the jewposter right? Give us more of that. Peak soul.

[Anonymous No.4561758]

>>4561727
>Who?

[Anonymous No.4561762]

>>4561758
literally who

[Anonymous No.4561763]

>>4561762
If you don't know then the question obviously doesn't concern you then.

[Anonymous No.4561764]

Wip, trying to learn figure and terminator lines better

[Anonymous No.4561765]

>>4561356
i have tried to use colored pencils about 10 times which i know isnt a lot but i think you cant make good values with them. that dark black is charcoal. everything else is the same. its shit. and the hand is too big.

[Anonymous No.4561766]

>>4561758
I wish someone loved me as much as asukanon loves his waifu

[Anonymous No.4561769]

>>4561736
some adjustments

[Anonymous No.4561780]

first time trying anime style, how did I do

[Anonymous No.4561785]

>>4561780
Amazing for anime standards

[Anonymous No.4561788]

Trying to learn how to draw a body.. Started drawing for a couple of days than I lost focus for about a week and I keep hitting rock bottom..

I've finished the first chapter of KTD should I continue or keep re-reading Chapter 1?

[Anonymous No.4561791]

>>4561764
I'm sorry I lost it at Terminator, was it triggered by Arnie here >>4561367 ?

[Anonymous No.4561792]

ugh

[Anonymous No.4561794]

>>4561791
Ahaha no, terminator as in light terminator.

[Anonymous No.4561803]

>>4561369
Cute to ugly

[Anonymous No.4561807]

>>4561769
This is really good man, great job

[Anonymous No.4561828]

>>4561803
I mean it looks like shes heavily balding and the mouth is missing but aside from that it's a good effort.
Keep grinding Anon

[Anonymous No.4561833]

>>4561828
Yeah I was looking at the hair again and it was just bad, I spent a bit too long trying to get that mouth and it just looked bad, but thanks anon

[Anonymous No.4561837]

gesture prac
>>4561807
ty

[Anonymous No.4561839]

>>4561792
love the hair bro. very nice shading.

[Anonymous No.4561860]

Thinking about starting the climb after spending so long wishing that I could be good at drawing. Should I get a physical drawing pad, or would a digital drawing tablet be good as well?

[Anonymous No.4561861]

Trying to practice rendering skills

[Anonymous No.4561869]

i don't know how to draw legs

[Anonymous No.4561876]

>>4561837
adding details and blocking in shadows

[Anonymous No.4561883]

>>4561369
How good you need to be to live off patreon?

[Anonymous No.4561889]

>>4561883
This good >>4561869

[Anonymous No.4561914]

>>4561860
See if you have enough drive to draw every day with pen and paper before dropping big cash into digital. Do you actually like drawing or just the idea of drawing?

[Anonymous No.4561922]

>>4561914
Both, I guess? I liked drawing when I was in high school, but I never got too serious (or good). I've always wanted to get back into it, but I've never really liked the feel and complications of pen and paper.

[Anonymous No.4561927]

>>4561922
>the feel and complications of pen and paper.
What is it so hard about to just draw! lol

[Anonymous No.4561931]

>>4561927
I don't have proper desk-space in my room, so drawing traditionally would be rather awkward.

[Anonymous No.4561944]

where did i go wrong

[Anonymous No.4561950]

>>4561944
>where did i go wrong
right eye is angled upwards for some reason.
>that nose
did you use a reference? im not catching any angles that you could have used for the basic construction.
also the teeth arent too great.
also the shadow along the wrinkle from her smile implies a shadow being cast from both sides.

[Anonymous No.4561962]

Anons, I’ve started drawing a couple of months ago and damn it’s been so much fun. I have some questions, I googled them and read stickies/reddit threads, but I’d appreciate your perspective.

So far I’ve been drawing with graphite pencils from nature and photos. Is it worth spending time reading up on theory/fundamentals at this point? I feel like I can learn so much just from drawing from photos. Meanwhile I’ve looked through some books like Robertson’s How to Draw and can’t see how they will help me right now (I understand that perspective etc. will be crucial for drawing from imagination, but the question is specifically about this point of my progression). Dodson’s Key to Drawing is pretty much the only book on drawing I’ve read so far, it was particularly useful for learning some tricks about proportions.

Speaking about proportions: I do not use tracing but when I work on a detailed A4-sized drawing I often take a pic of my drawing and then overlay it on my PC with the original photo (after I’ve spent some time on fixing proportions on my own using angles, lines, negative space shapes, etc.). I understand that this is a crutch and I should get rid of this habit, but is this acceptable at least in the beginning, or is this pretty much tracing with extra steps?

I've seen the idea that 'real' drawing is when you draw from imagination, but is it ok I find it really fun and satisfying to just draw from photos for now?

Should I be using 2H or harder pencils for shading (I already use 2H for preliminary shapes)? Since I’ve discovered 2B, 6B, and 8B, I feel like I never need to shade that lightly. I did make a value scale and I see how light can 2H be, I just never see the point of it when I compare it to intense contrasts made by 8B (maybe my eye is not sufficiently trained yet to differentiate between these values).

Any other advice on pencils or books will be much appreciated. Also these threads has been very helpful to read.

[Anonymous No.4561966]

>>4561889
Are you being sarcastic, I can't tell

[Anonymous No.4561973]

>>4561966
How would I be sarcastic? I think the CP poster is very talented but he should work on his coloring rather than creating so many OC lolis but that's just a personal take.

[Anonymous No.4561980]

>>4561962
>I've seen the idea that 'real' drawing is when you draw from imagination
This is an idea mostly propagated by people who either know nothing about drawing or are too lazy to actually work on their skills and try to frame lack of discipline as talent
>but is it ok I find it really fun and satisfying to just draw from photos for now?
Totally ok but try to draw from actual life too if you can

[Anonymous No.4561994]

>>4561764
Bit of an update, should I stay here or post in /int/

[Anonymous No.4561997]

>>4561876
shading attempt

[Anonymous No.4562015]

>>4561369
>having to draw teeth
no

[Anonymous No.4562029]

>>4561944
That head is way too small anon

>>4561997
Looking good again anon, nice shading

>>4562015
I felt the same way when I was trying to draw the mouth, teeth look hideous

[Anonymous No.4562034]

>>4561962
I'm /beg/ but this is what has worked for me so far.
>is it worth spending time reading up on theory/fundamentals at this point?
Yes, but also you should spend time conducting studies on what you think you're lacking which from the example you just presented is the "overlaying" thing you do.
>but is it ok I find it really fun and satisfying to just draw from photos for now?
You should always do what you enjoy doing, I know there's an ongoing meme on /ic/ that suggests you should always draw from imagination and maybe you should to push your abilities but if you don't find any fun in doing so then what's the point? Drawing from imagination isn't the only path.
>Should I be using 2H or harder pencils for shading...
I wouldn't worry so much about it now if I were you since you've been at it a couple of months, what you should work on is the pressure you apply to the pencil in order to create different shading. I have a 2B, 4B and 6B and they are great for figure drawing.
On a personal note I'd say you should try to work on "drawing what you see" to get rid of your overlay habit, pic related. I don't think this image gets posted or seen enough here on /beg/. I look forward to see your work Anon.

[Anonymous No.4562037]

How did I do?

>>4561369

[Anonymous No.4562044]

>>4561962
>I often take a pic of my drawing and then overlay it on my PC with the original photo
Obviously you should be trying to spot inaccuracies by eye before cross checking with your reference but i feel it's still incredible helpful to find the inaccuracies you missed so i wouldn't worry about it to much.

[Anonymous No.4562053]

>>4562037
try harder with the eyes

[Anonymous No.4562057]

>>4562053
What do you think are wrong with them? I redrew the left one 3-4 times fuck. Couldn't place it right.

Now that I'm comparing my drawing with the original I see that the left side of the face doesn't wrap around the head in a 3D way.

[Anonymous No.4562063]

>>4562057
refer to this >>4562034 and pic related.

[Anonymous No.4562064]

>>4562057
Okay is this supposed to be anime/cartoon-ish? Then draw darker eyelashes upper and lower and then connect them at the edges.
If this is supposed to be realism stop symbol drawing, chech this image on how >>4562034

[Anonymous No.4562069]

>>4562063
>>4562064
I was aiming for 15-85 anime-realism ratio, not trying to do perfect anatomy

[Anonymous No.4562080]

>>4562069
huge cope

[Anonymous No.4562087]

>>4562069
>15-85 anime-realism ratio
Wtf?

[Anonymous No.4562117]

>>4561369
Help.

[Anonymous No.4562142]

>>4561356

[Anonymous No.4562144]

>>4561676
>>4561706
>>4561792
>>4561861
Not /beg/

[Anonymous No.4562179]

>>4562144
Retard, are you serious?

[Anonymous No.4562185]

Just woke up, time to keep polishing my drawing from yesterday

[Anonymous No.4562191]

>>4562179
Go back to int

[Anonymous No.4562194]

>>4561883
That's pretty nice man.
As to your question, there's not really a correlation between skill and how much money you get, especially on something like patreon where your income is essentially based on public approval.
There are complete trash artists that do well because they cater to a specific audience/ fetish.
As far as social media is concerned Quality < Engagement / mass appeal, it's the same reason why youtube is dominated by mediocre artist.

>>4561994
Stay in /beg.
I know it's supposed to be some Junji Ito-type looking freaky shit so I won't judge it too hard based on that, but it's just not that good.

>>4562144
Pretty sure you're the same autist that shits up the /int/ thread with "go back to /beg/" posts.

[Anonymous No.4562240]

>>4562144
Finally I can leave this place

[Anonymous No.4562269]

>>4562144
i love this meme
divert some random portion of the thread to /int/ and destroy both generals. devilish

[Anonymous No.4562278]

bro, lmao

[Anonymous No.4562299]

>>4561758
I wish I had a grasp of shading like him

[Anonymous No.4562322]

What programs should I use? I have Paint tool Sai and Paint.net but my main issue is that they don't have a sharpen / blur brush. I know this is more of an image manipulation tool but sometimes I need that too.
I remember Photoshop having those but I can't afford it.

[Anonymous No.4562336]

>>4562322
You should use "MSpencil" and "paper.exe".

[Anonymous No.4562341]

>>4561369

[Anonymous No.4562354]

>>4561369
how the fuck do you turn real hair to cartoonish hair REEEEE

[Anonymous No.4562364]

>>4561711
He drew a shit ton and used references for everything

[Anonymous No.4562430]

portraitstudies - any feedback?

[Anonymous No.4562491]

say I wanted to change the color of some line art as well as the anti-aliasing. how would I do so? is there a tool for this? i use gimp

[Anonymous No.4562493]

say I wanted to change the coIor of some line art as well as the anti-aliasing. how would I do so? is there a tool for this? i use gimp

[Anonymous No.4562504]

[Anonymous No.4562508]

>>4562504
Good shit Asuka senpai!

[Anonymous No.4562544]

>>4562430
>>4562144

[Anonymous No.4562546]

>>4562504
It's kinda muddy and hard to see where her two knees separate but otherwise i really like it.

[Anonymous No.4562547]

>>4562544
based

[Anonymous No.4562554]

hi /beg/s, former /beg/ here recently promoted to /pro/.

Feast your eyes on my newest creation. I'm trying out a new hairstyle which to be honest is pretty fukn dope.

I'll be taking comissions soon so get your neetbux ready.

[Anonymous No.4562568]

her anatomy looks really off, rip

[Anonymous No.4562583]

>>4562364
His technique and style doesn't come from references though.

[Anonymous No.4562588]

>>4562583
It's all talent my dude he's a born genius

[Anonymous No.4562590]

>>4562583
Yes that's true. Working from reference gives you more time to think about the mechanics of drawing/painting and what makes an image appealing in the first place.

[Anonymous No.4562593]

[Anonymous No.4562595]

>>4562593
draw new dog already

[Are pajeets just a meme? No.4562605]

So, I spent some time on these animations and really want to hear, what you have to say about it

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYT0yWJXxWFJ5Xr3SqZJ9oQ

(Especially the last one. I worked on it about 4 times less than on the rest. But the beginning isn't in English, so you can skip to about 0:53 mark)

[Are pajeets just a meme? No.4562610]

>>4562605

[Are pajeets just a meme? No.4562613]

>>4562605

and sorry for spamming pictures, I'm just usually in read-only mode

[Anonymous No.4562616]

This is what I came up with but I'm not sure the bottom part is working. They're giving a show inside the cruise ship and the girl is watching from the public but it'll be a bit too cluttered.
Maybe I should draw her inside her room reaching out to the TV screen

[Anonymous No.4562617]

>>4562568
Not "really" off, looks well proportioned. I'm only iffy on the neck but it might be possible to look like that from a certain pose, good job

[Anonymous No.4562635]

>>4562605
cool shit. amount of effort is impressive

[Anonymous No.4562642]

>>4562595
I'm working on something else right now (got the idea from another /beg/Bro).
But in the meantime, I would be happy to know if there are any glaring problems with my previous sketch :)

[Anonymous No.4562644]

>>4562605
First time media disturbs me in a long time, nice. Anon, being honest this is the kind of thing that should have a few thousands shares in social media, you're doing an amazing work and if you decide to go for recognition you could get it.
Not like I know how to.
Your drawing and animation skills are just backing up a great mind, not anyone can pull it off.
Go also post on other threads though. Even if your raw drawing skill is a "beginner's" (I'd just say it's the style you chose for it), the end product is definitely not. Be proud and show it off everywhere.

The clay is impressive but the hand-drawns are as well, Jesus Christ this is good content.

[Anonymous No.4562667]

>>4562605
It's alright.

[Anonymous No.4562670]

>>4562504
nice

[Anonymous No.4562677]

>>4562504
I'm salty that I got to see Asuka anon surpassing me so quickly. I think it wasn't long ago that his pieces screamed /beg/ but now he's drawings stuff that makes people think you're a pro.
Is this really the power of using references? Maybe I should drop my WIP and train like him


Whatever happened to construction anon though?

[Anonymous No.4562696]

How is it?

[Anonymous No.4562719]

>>4562554
Reworked the eyes for depth. Better? Worse?

[Anonymous No.4562720]

>>4562696
you've captured the onions, very nice

[Anonymous No.4562727]

doesn't do justice to pretty
I do not understand this hair - it is black hole
eyes are somewhat fucked

[Anonymous No.4562733]

>>4562719
There's no depth in the eyes at all.

[Anonymous No.4562739]

>>4562677
>Is this really the power of using references?
Yes. Copying what's right in front of you is hard enough as it is, why do you think copying a vaguely formed image in your mind is gonna work out well? Do many studies of art and life, use references as the basis of your original work too, focus on learning the mechanics of painting and rendering and drawing and what separates good art from bad, and as your visual library grows you can start experimenting with your imagination more often.

>Whatever happened to construction anon though?
Probably gave up like 95% of /beg/s.

[Anonymous No.4562759]

>>4562733
Liar liar pants on fire

[Anonymous No.4562782]

>>4562677
Who

[Anonymous No.4562789]

>>4562677
I'm just a filthy beg and only actually started drawing recently but i seriously think that starting with reference is the best way to learn. Reference drawing, in my opinion, is the easiest way to produce good art and doesn't really require any understanding of certain concepts. It helps train your brain to draw what you see and allows you to focus on improving your raw technical abilities like controlling the pencil and how to shade. If your doing it right you get a good drawing that satiates your dopamine addiction as well as improves your proficiency with the pencil.

Eventually, when i've got what i deem as a decent control over the pencil, i'll switch focus to stuff like fundies and anatomy because at that point i'll know i have the ability to draw that complex forearm but only lack the understanding. At least that's my approach.

[Anonymous No.4562794]

>>4562677
That's power of talent sadly

[Anonymous No.4562805]

I've heard that (talking about pencil drawing) your darkest light values should never be as dark as the lightest shadow values. Is this true? I can't wrap my head around this because I can compare the values in paint and some lights are definitely darker than shadows, especially if the shadows are on skin while light is on dark clothes.

[Anonymous No.4562809]

>>4562719
Looking flat as board buddy

[Anonymous No.4562813]

>>4562805
it have sense if you comparing the same thing.

[Anonymous No.4562832]

by the way really do not dig this prehistoric paradigm.
lightest shadow values is actually lightest light values, from just another light.

[Anonymous No.4562838]

>>4562832
>>4562813
So it is possible for shadowed areas to be lighter in values than lighted areas?
I assume I should rather be relying on my eyes than some rule of thumb?

[Anonymous No.4562852]

>>4561765
I tried to fix it a bit this morning. Maybe it's a little better idk. Not really

[Anonymous No.4562858]

>>4562852
reference?

[Anonymous No.4562866]

>>4562733
>>4562809
B-bu anon-san, this cannot be. You told me I was /pro/! I was supposed to have made it...

Where did it all go so wrong?

[Anonymous No.4562867]

>>4561369
Oh god oh fuck why did I even bother
Well back to grinding boxes

[Anonymous No.4562878]

>>4562838
it's dim light lighten things less then bright light kind of shit. how bright value is depend on how bright light and object local value.
object of some local value will be brighter under the bright light then under dim light duh.
if it make any sense to you.
I'm by the way not some kind authority on this shit. just some fellow beg

[Anonymous No.4562882]

>>4561803
>>4561883
>>4562037
>>4562117
>>4562341
>>4562727
>>4562867
The day /beg/ was defeated by a photo of a pretty girl

[Anonymous No.4562895]

>>4562867
do not worry so much. It do not need to be perfect or even good, it's just training.

[Anonymous No.4562906]

>>4562882
If you mean things do not come up as good as can be wished for then /beg is in constant state of defeat.
It kind of nature of insufficient skill

[Anonymous No.4562915]

>>4562852

[Anonymous No.4562921]

Is it impossible for me to learn to draw?

>check out tons of guides and tutorials
>they all say don't rest your elbows/forearms on surface, don't draw from wrist
>I am crippled and in a wheelchair
>my torso is shorter due to muscle atrophy sitting in a chair since I was a kid and my arms are long as fuck (I have like an 80 inch wingspan)
>literally impossible for me not to have my arms laying on what's in front of me unless I literally like make chicken wings with my arms and have them straight out to the sides

[Anonymous No.4562928]

>>4562921
>don't rest your elbows/forearms on surface
bullshit, now go draw

[Anonymous No.4562935]

>>4562921
no
especially if youre gonna do it digitally, cant really draw from shoulder on a tablet

also if you rest your elbow on a table, you can still use your arm to draw.

good luck

[Anonymous No.4562937]

>>4562642
half way done with this. I'll prob finish tomorrow.
I'm thinking of using crosshatching to add extra depth as well as increasing line thickness in some parts.

[Anonymous No.4562940]

>>4562336

Serious replies pls.

[Anonymous No.4562945]

>>4562940
just torrent photoshop

[Anonymous No.4562949]

>>4562945
>4562945

It's dangerous and unprofessional

[Anonymous No.4562956]

>>4562949
buy csp

[Anonymous No.4562959]

>>4562867
Literally just keep drawing portraits of people if you want to get better at drawing portraits of people, it will help you infinitely more than drawing boxes.

[Anonymous No.4562961]

>>4562867
you need to know how to apply the boxes to the face. then the gains will come

[Anonymous No.4562962]

>>4562858
scroll down a bit sorry i replied to the wrong comment

[Anonymous No.4562966]

>>4562949
hahaahahahahahahahah

[Anonymous No.4562976]

>>4562959
>>4562961
So which is it?

[Anonymous No.4562977]

>>4561369

[Anonymous No.4562987]

>>4562976
Both. Welcome to drawing

[Anonymous No.4562995]

>>4562949
oi mate ya gotta loicense for that .exe phahahahahaha

[Anonymous No.4562997]

>>4562949
use krita, then. it's a very capable tool, you just need to learn the workflow and featureset

[Anonymous No.4563002]

>>4562976
This >>4562959

[Anonymous No.4563008]

>>4561356
hello i struggle with art. any good tips for where to learn how to work with scenery, and how to make characters blend into the scenery? anything could be helpful!

[Anonymous No.4563014]

am i unbanned yet

[Anonymous No.4563020]

yes i am still doing these. i left the eyelashes out because painting them sucks ass and because they help to improve the attractiveness of female portraits. so i figure if i left them out and it still looks sort of canny im doing okay

[Anonymous No.4563029]

anyone ever feel like it looks good irl and then they take a picture and see how wrong it actually is?

[Anonymous No.4563030]

>>4563029
fuck why is it sideways?

[Anonymous No.4563038]

>>4563029
Yes. The /trad/ equivalent of flipping the canvas. Use it as a tool on earlier stages of the drawing to see if everything is ok.
Using a mirror and/or taking a step back to see how the drawing reads in a smaller size works too. Also squinting.

[Anonymous No.4563046]

>>4563020
>why yes, I'm still doing these, how could you tell
Based tranny chad

[Anonymous No.4563052]

[Anonymous No.4563053]

[Anonymous No.4563054]

>>4563030
EXIF metadata probably. It makes your phone and most image viewers rotate the image to the correct orientation, but most websites strip it out.

If you open your image in GIMP for example (most other image editors probably work too), it will prompt you whether you want to rotate your image as the EXIF describes. What you want to do is say *not* to rotate it, then to rotate it with the transform tool, then export *without EXIF data*.

[Anonymous No.4563070]

>>4563002
>t.crab
Boxes are the key to everything, anon. You need to let them into your heart and then you'll see.

[Anonymous No.4563074]

Did I mess up too much?
>>4563053

[Anonymous No.4563083]

>>4561245
is it better ?

[Anonymous No.4563091]

>>4561356
First question:
I'm right-handed but write with a hook-wrist/crab hand, sort of like lefties.
Should I sort out my handwriting issues before trying to draw, or will the muscle memory adjust over time?
Second question:
I know for sure from another hobby, that I am very left eye dominant. Do artists ever consider eye dominance when judging things or is it pretty irrelevant?

[Anonymous No.4563099]

>>4562977
V nice bro

[Anonymous No.4563104]

>>4561531
>>4562504

[Anonymous No.4563109]

>>4563070
Boxes are training wheels for the untalented

[Anonymous No.4563110]

>>4563054
that will recompress the image a 2nd time though, which is not that great. you can do it losslessly: exiv2 to strip the metadata and jpegtran to rotate it without recompressing.

[Anonymous No.4563113]

>>4562504
How'd you reach this level?
What books or what do you do to practice?

[Anonymous No.4563121]

>>4561429
Tranny poster here. I gave up trying to draw, it's fucking pointless and I just wanna die.

[Anonymous No.4563126]

>>4563109
Drawing is training wheels for the untalented. Artists are just borne.

[Anonymous No.4563135]

>>4562364
>references
Into the trash it goes.
If you aren't drawing from memory I don't want to hear how good you think someone is

[Anonymous No.4563146]

>>4563110
Thanks for the tip. I'll do that instead in the future.

[Anonymous No.4563151]

METAL CRABBU

[Anonymous No.4563154]

Quick sketch I did while I was watching the Proko draw from imagination stream

[Anonymous No.4563159]

>>4561369

[Anonymous No.4563175]

>>4562882
Anon, how can I expect to win drawing a girl, when I never draw them to begin with?

>>4563159
Holy shit this is the best one and it seems so casually made, aaaaa

>>4563151
Cool crab anon

>>4562937
This is really nice, I love the choices of color for shading

[Anonymous No.4563177]

>>4561369
I tried my best, how did i do?

[Anonymous No.4563192]

>>4563159
Technically accurate but doesn't manage to convey the vibe of the photo or her expression

[Anonymous No.4563219]

>>4563083
This is looking good so far anon, keep it up, the more i see you post it, the better I see improvements

[Anonymous No.4563240]

beg in animating

[Anonymous No.4563245]

>>4562727
Really good bro, but you should increase the contrast between the values, that's why the hair doesn't make sense, because the pic is very high contrast making the darks really dark.

[Anonymous No.4563271]

>>4563091
>I'm right-handed but write with a hook-wrist/crab hand, sort of like lefties.
I'm left handed and don't know wtf you're talking about.
You might be retarded if you write like that.

[Anonymous No.4563272]

beg animation

[Anonymous No.4563285]

>>4563159
winner

[Anonymous No.4563286]

>>4563272
I don't think /beg/ will be able to give sufficient advice for animation critique. Should just head over to the animation thread.

[Anonymous No.4563317]

Do you have advices to draw the gesture, please ?

[Anonymous No.4563318]

>>4563317
Read or watch something by Vilppu

[Anonymous No.4563333]

>>4563318
What the fuck is your problem?

[Anonymous No.4563338]

>>4562341
good work

[Anonymous No.4563341]

>>4563333
What's the problem anon? The other anon is giving you advice

[Anonymous No.4563343]

>>4562194
Ah it was actually just a figure study practice, just added a face for fun

[Anonymous No.4563351]

>>4563177
it looks scary

[Anonymous No.4563354]

Can someone post another pretty girl to draw?

[Anonymous No.4563359]

>>4563351
What makes it scary?

[Anonymous No.4563364]

figure study

[Anonymous No.4563366]

study from schiele

[Anonymous No.4563367]

>>4563359
Too large eyes and equally distant straight eyelashes.
Drawing the philtrum.

[Anonymous No.4563373]

>>4563367
It does look a bit eerie now that you say it. I'll keep those in mind on my next drawings.

[Anonymous No.4563379]

>>4563318
Thanks (I downloaded his manual) !

[Anonymous No.4563381]

>>4563333
Filtered. Stop talking to me crab.

[Anonymous No.4563382]

>>4563177
Too much philtrum because it reminds me of a guy named Phil Trum, I have ability to draw than you so I'm being picky about stupid shit to mock your work

[Anonymous No.4563386]

>>4563381
Go back to /dad/ tranny

[Anonymous No.4563432]

This thread makes me laugh. Is it always like this on this board?
What's the point of trying to draw something if you don't know the main principles behind drawing?
It takes like a minute tops to learn.

>>4563159
One person who has understood to use contrast, black and white. Not grey and grey.

>>4563177
What is this. You can barely see this thing.

It's not hard.

[Anonymous No.4563436]

>>4563432
>do a led pencil drawing
>"HURR DURR WHY IS THERE NOT AS MUCH CONTRAST AS WITH DIGITAL ART"

[Anonymous No.4563438]

>>4563432
>doesn't understand local values
ngmi

[Anonymous No.4563452]

>>4563436
Another defensive noob. Shouldn't posts like these be bannable?
Pencil drawings were the first thing I did and I managed to get pretty good contrast in them.

Btw I'll leave you hopeless angry retards to yourself if you don't want any advice. Just let me know.

[Anonymous No.4563456]

Working on album art for a friend, going to color it in on the computer

[Anonymous No.4563463]

Working on album art for a friend, going to color it in on the computer

[Anonymous No.4563467]

>4563432
>4563452
ignore the obvious crab

[Anonymous No.4563477]

>>4563463
Is that inspired on the Green Day stand? I like it.

[Anonymous No.4563482]

>>4563452
>he uses "noob"
OH NO NO NO

[Anonymous No.4563498]

>>4561369
oh well, here comes a verbal beatdown, now I remember one of the reasons I quit drawing, have you ever drawn for so long for a result like this? Well, I have, it looks like you asked an alien to draw a human, and this particular alien was human hating.
A new measure of time! for I've been drawing for two albums, and got no pretty result, but doctor I am plagiacci.
I kind of don't even want to look at this, or the replies either

[Anonymous No.4563499]

>>4563192
is it better now ?

[Anonymous No.4563505]

>>4563498
I drew and erased so much of it, it has it's very own geography, I'm not lying or joking, had to use flash to avoid getting that on the picture, there's even a fucking hole.
Me? I'm dissapointed, heavily and as I wonder yet again, even if I told myself not to, on what is talent? who has it? whoever who has it? To be fair some say, to consider that I haven't drawn in a year and I didn't know how to draw back them, I must resist the pressure to surrender and to cry out.

[Anonymous No.4563508]

>>4563452
Seriously leave. You clearly have no advice worth listening to.

[Anonymous No.4563512]

>>4563505
>>4563498
As you can also notice I didn't draw the teeth, not in this particular instance mind you,since the paper was so delicate from all that erasing and I knew that it'd look even worse with teeth added in, well fuck it.
Hate, hatred, disappointment, it is my own sickly humanity which makes me unable to draw, why? talent. That is if talent exists I don't know.
When you're drawing it looks better, is this delusion, the delusion of my species, if ONLY I WAS A GLORIOUS PERFECT MACHINE, I could draw perfectly, but alas I'm human, and my hatred is historical.
May, Nine, 2020, I drew and failed...yet again.

[Anonymous No.4563516]

>>4563505
You'll give up again if you don't stop this self-defeating shit. Learn to appreciate how you're getting better with every drawing and accept that you won't come up with any masterpieces for the time being.

Keep practicing and you'll make it anon, i believe in you.

[Anonymous No.4563517]

>>4563512
My choice for music didn't help, MEZZANINE, melancolic and once I knew this drawing wasn't as good as I wanted, taunting.

[Anonymous No.4563520]

Redraw of a character I made 1.5 years ago

[Anonymous No.4563523]

>>4563498
>>4563512
>>4563516
shut the fuck up and study more you lunatic

[Anonymous No.4563524]

>>4563520
Got the original?

[Anonymous No.4563529]

>>4563499
>>4563159
I must eat artist's spines to gain their art, I must, once I kill them I'll get better, I'm not human you see, I'm a machine in all but body, if one day I gain my real body back, I'll be able to draw perfectly, I must eat all others.
>>4563516
>>4563523
Am I getting better though? Just how many layers of wrong?
Teardrop on the fire
Feathers on my breath

[Anonymous No.4563532]

>>4563523
Do not speak like that for I am not being rude, if you continue I'd love to tell you I'd drill your teeth and knees until you beg me to kill you

[Anonymous No.4563536]

>>4561369
I really don't want to stare at this anymore or I'll go blind

[Anonymous No.4563548]

>>4563512
Silly humans and their rules I came here for art, now give it to me, tell me ehat's wring and how to get better.
All my life others looked down on me ignored me laughed at me hated me.
I'll get my real body back but for now I want to draw.

[Anonymous No.4563557]

>>4563529
Show me your most recent study of a human figure.
You did learn from vilppu and hampton how to construct the human figure, right anon?

[Anonymous No.4563562]

>>4563508
Sure, I don't have to stay here. But seriously you should kill yourself. You don't know what art I make. You're too dumb to live. This is the level of you people:
>>4563498
>>4563177
In addition you're a piece of shit. There's no future for you in anything. I gave it a shot. You deserve any suffering you get. Just die. That's honestly for the best.

[Anonymous No.4563564]

>>4561356
>>4559405
>>4563005 how and what do i need to learn to draw this style.

fucking love it so much

[Anonymous No.4563575]

>>4563564
copying drawing of the forementioned artist, untill you can apply his style to study of photographic reference.
try copying for let's say 4-5 hours then try to do a photo reference if you don't succeed go back to copying.

[Anonymous No.4563592]

[Anonymous No.4563597]

>>4563536
v nice bro, one of the better one ITT

[Anonymous No.4563599]

>>4563592
Not /beg/

[Anonymous No.4563604]

[Anonymous No.4563606]

>>4563592
Very /nice/

[Anonymous No.4563616]

>>4563557
I haven't, doing loomis first

[Anonymous No.4563629]

>>4561369

[Anonymous No.4563636]

>>4563629
Not /beg/

[Anonymous No.4563637]

when do i get to draw CARTOOONS like pop'n music

[Anonymous No.4563642]

>>4563637
after you do all the books in the study. do your fundies first. no fun allowed

[Anonymous No.4563648]

>>4563562
>his best advice is to die
This must be a true artist. Truly unequaled by his peers.

[Anonymous No.4563659]

>>4563432
>talentfag is telling you that "it's easy bro"

[Anonymous No.4563664]

[Anonymous No.4563665]

>>4563432
Pyw

[Anonymous No.4563667]

>>4563642
After you've scrubbed all the floors in hyrule THEN you can have mercy

[Anonymous No.4563669]

>>4563665
He's a failed ngmi who gave up and just crabs and shitposts all day, he doesn't have any work to show, ignore the sad subhuman

[Anonymous No.4563672]

>>4563636
Based

[Anonymous No.4563674]

>>4563664
Just go to /int/, asukafag. You won't get much help here because you're already pretty much the best artist here.

[Anonymous No.4563675]

>>4563592
Shoo intoid

[Anonymous No.4563680]

Fuck all non beginners here

[Anonymous No.4563681]

>>4563674

no I still have huge problems with poses and anatomy
maybe in 3 months

[Anonymous No.4563682]

>>4563516
>how you're getting better with every drawing
Jokes on you I'm exactly as shitty as I was months ago

[Anonymous No.4563684]

>>4563664
>>4563674
Please don't. Oh god, If i have to be alone here without the ever healing grace of asukaposter making steady gains. I really think that'll be it.

[Anonymous No.4563687]

>>4562915

[Anonymous No.4563688]

>>4563681
All you've posted so far are portraits.

[Anonymous No.4563692]

>>4563562
But seriously why in the fuck you are even here if your best advice is "kys"? What type of mental illness are you going to through in order to consider "kys" a perfect advice to a beginner? You're a beginner yourself aren't you? Why don't you just go back to whatever board you're a regular of. >>>/b/ is that way fucking retard

[Anonymous No.4563695]

>>4563109
the talented have boxes IN THEIR MIND

[Anonymous No.4563697]

>>4563688
what do you mean I posted a full body pose in this thread

[Anonymous No.4563696]

>>4563674
Who

[Anonymous No.4563698]

>>4563697
Fair enough, I completely forgot about that one.

[Anonymous No.4563705]

the grind continues even today...
Will it ever end bros?

[Anonymous No.4563713]

Just starting to get visualizing form down and I can see things in space pretty well at this point, but I've always had trouble understanding light. I learn a lot better with videos than by reading, anybody knows any god-tier light on form lectures they know of?

[Anonymous No.4563725]

>Edwards's book
>"Just look at what you're drawing, carefully moving from one contour to the next."
>Gesture drawing
>"lol ignore the contours bro, just draw the action using CSI"
WE TRAINED YOU WRONG. ON PURPOSE. AS A JOKE.

But seriously, how do I unfuck my brain for gesture drawing? If I ignore contours I just end up either drawing stick figures or at best cylinders. And if I try to use CSI I somehow fuck up line directions completely.

[Anonymous No.4563743]

>>4563725
I got fucked by Proko

[Anonymous No.4563745]

>>4563669
How to improve anon?

[Anonymous No.4563746]

>>4563725
Don't force yourself into a set of rules. Just sketch in whatever way you feel helps you develop the drawing. If you're doing something just because someone told you to do it and you don't feel like it's actually helping, change what you're doing.

[Anonymous No.4563750]

>>4563746

[Anonymous No.4563751]

>>4563746
To add on: the main goal in the first step (what some people call "gesture") of the sketch is getting the proportions right, and secondarily it's making sure that the drawing has an overall nice feel/flow before you start nailing things down more. However you want to accomplish that step is up to you, every artist has their own process, there is 't a set of rules you have to follow.

[Anonymous No.4563760]

>>4563463
>another emo trap hop shitter rapping about depression and codeine

[Anonymous No.4563767]

>>4563498
Seems like you're overthinking the fuck out of it instead of drawing, because from what I'm seeing here you've put in about 5 minutes worth of total drawing time on this piece of shit.
Put in more effort, be more confident, think about what you're seeing in the ref instead of thinking how shit you are at drawing.

[Anonymous No.4563769]

>>4563636
Starting to kek at these

[Anonymous No.4563773]

>>4563664
Study anatomy already, you have no idea what you're doing with anything below the neck.

[Anonymous No.4563775]

>>4563705
Not /beg/ (actually)

[Anonymous No.4563789]

>>4563505
Read Keys to Drawing.

[Anonymous No.4563793]

>>4563773
theres literally nothing wrong with it

[Anonymous No.4563801]

Applications closed

[Anonymous No.4563804]

>>4563801
W-whats this for anon?

[Anonymous No.4563806]

>>4563804
For all of /ic/ to see

[Anonymous No.4563818]

>>4563801
It could have been the op if you had arranged it in a square

[Anonymous No.4563819]

>>4563806
Noooo

[Anonymous No.4563824]

New thread

>>4563823

[Anonymous No.4563826]

>>4563801
06 is the best

[Anonymous No.4563859]

>>4563826
Because it was painted by an intnigger

[Are pajeets just a meme? No.4563934]

>>4562644
Thank you, my guy. It really warms my heart to hear that.

[Anonymous No.4563953]

>>4562605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEI0PlYKukI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G70Mbgi97w
these two were kind of intense, i liked them. I don't know if they're good or not, all i know is i liked them and can tell you put effort into them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xjykGasFz8
this last one felt fairly repetitive, didn't watch until the end.

[Anonymous No.4564200]

>>4561356
Illastrat?

[Anonymous No.4564243]

>>4561369
Tried.

[Anonymous No.4564283]

>>4561356
F

[Anonymous No.4564575]

[Anonymous No.4564648]

>>4563271
>I'm left handed and don't know wtf you're talking about. I love sucking dicks btw
asshurt subhuman leftard detected

[Anonymous No.4565342]

would appreciate any and all help

[Anonymous No.4565368]

>>4565342
Now rotate it using only your imagination

[Anonymous No.4565441]

>>4565368
I did my best, I see that I need to work badly on the shoulders but what else

[Anonymous No.4565444]

>>4565441
wow I drew the ribs twice on the right, sorry. I was rushing a little

[Anonymous No.4565658]

>>4561369

[Anonymous No.4566046]

>>4561725
I really like this one. It reminds me a bit of the art Peter draws when he draws buildings just with out the characters.