/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4555277]

>talent isn't real
>asians aren't born with anime genetics

[Anonymous No.4555283]

>asians gave us coronavirus
>asians hogging all the talent anime genes
>asians largest growing world powers
its not fucking fair

[Anonymous No.4555286]

>>4555277
SOUL

[Anonymous No.4555292]

>>4555277
That baby probably spend more time practicing than the average /ic/ user.

[Anonymous No.4555293]

>>4555277
implying anime looks good...

[Anonymous No.4555295]

yikes and you people wonder why you're so bad, it isn't easy to draw in one hand and suck asian cock in the other

[Anonymous No.4555304]

>>4555277
It's fake.

[Anonymous No.4555310]

>>4555277
>*raugh in cope*
Calling bullshit on all vidya where we can only see up-close or the vidya has shitty quality - wether it's asian masters on one finger or babies drawing perfect circles effortlessly.

[Anonymous No.4555313]

>>talent

its fucking cirkus training you mongoloid, you can learn that shit to elephantino or fugen crow

[Anonymous No.4555327]

>>4555277
>When an 8 month old has better linework than you do.

[Anonymous No.4555337]

>>4555277
So much fucking soul.

[Anonymous No.4555340]

>>4555293
>>4555295
>>4555304
cope

[Anonymous No.4555359]

>>4555277
monkey see monkey do

[Anonymous No.4555363]

>>4555359
this monkey can't do or see

[Anonymous No.4555415]

>>4555327
Confidence. The 8 month old doesn't give a fuck about worrying about small things.

[Anonymous No.4555432]

>>4555277
It’s the same as when people thought it was amazing how this dog could stand. Beat something enough and it will do the action correctly. If your mother beat you and forced you to draw for ten hours straight you would be good as well. It isn’t talent, it’s culture.

[Anonymous No.4555435]

>>4555277
Talent is real
Asians are superior
You win anon
Now tell me, what are you going to do about it?
Complain all day? Maybe you should quit while you're ahead.
The rest of us wouldn't stop drawing even if talent WAS real.
Which it isn't.

[Anonymous No.4555436]

>>4555432
No one beat the kid, keep coping, loser.

[Anonymous No.4555440]

>>4555277
>anime genetics
>cartoon cats

[Anonymous No.4555445]

>>4555340
you are aware it is easier for kids to get really good and develop skills quicker in things because their brains are still developing? Especially if they practice that skill over and over. I'm not saying it as an excuse, I'm simply stating the truth. I know everyone here draws, but I guarantee you if everyone here drew everyday since age 5 for hours and hours that by that same age of 13 would be just as good.

[Anonymous No.4555451]

>>4555436
>never had a tiger mom
Asian women are disgusting, vile garbage. They have nothing better to do than either staring at a wall and crying or beating their children and projecting onto them

[Anonymous No.4555452]

>>4555340
what he fuckj bros

[Anonymous No.4555455]

>>4555445
Shhh people are coping.

[Anonymous No.4555461]

>>4555455
OH shit, sorry

[Anonymous No.4555469]

>>4555435
>even if talent WAS real
>Which it isn't
Jesus stop coping you massive retard
Are unironically saying that all people in the world born with the exact same potential to succeed in art? Are you actually this delusional?

[Anonymous No.4555474]

>>4555469
only people who believe in talent are those who've never put the work into getting good at something artistic or sports related

[Anonymous No.4555478]

Yes. no amount of hard work is going to get you on this level

[Anonymous No.4555484]

>>4555474
Millions of people put a lot of effort into getting good at sports or art or music or whatever else, so how come only precious few achieve greatness?

[Anonymous No.4555487]

I can't tell if this is an asian cuck thread. Lazy faggots who use talent as an excuse to not try thread or a crab thread. Probably all three. Get studying and grinding you snib snab faggots.

[Anonymous No.4555490]

>>4555484
>Millions of people
millions of people go to the gym, but only a portion actually manage to reach a competitive level, yet those who do reach it all have common methods and training ideas that they consistently stick to, of course, only a select few can truly be the best, but anyone who does things right can reach a competitive level of proficiency if they try

[Anonymous No.4555492]

>>4555484
There is a very small amount of humans on this earth alive or who have ever lived that have achieved "greatness" in their particular field. If you base your worth on winning the lottery of "greatness" then you might as well kill yourself now because all aspects of life are going to disappoint you.

[Anonymous No.4555501]

>>4555492
It applies on a smaller scale too, a naturally talented person will get good at something in less timespan than someone who isn't
>>4555490
>have common methods and training ideas that they consistently stick to
Is this some secret knowledge unavailable to those millions? Is it the only thing that hinders them from achieving the same results? No, the only reason they're below despite doing all the same things is because they're not as genetically blessed, same applies to art.

[Anonymous No.4555518]

>>4555277
terrible hand grip, no construction, uses memorized moves to draw instead of imagination

NGMI

[Anonymous No.4555540]

>>4555501
>It applies on a smaller scale too, a naturally talented person will get good at something in less timespan than someone who isn't

Yes and? That applies to everything anyone does ever. Some people pick up cooking quicker, some pick up gardening quicker or guitar. If you are such a fag about someone being able to learning something a bit faster than you to start out with then you don't deserve to do anything. Just crawl into a ball, rock back and forth until you expire.

[Anonymous No.4555542]

>>4555490
So if you have muscular dystrophy but lifted enough I could somehow be competitive? Bell curves exist and are proven. For every superstar there is an individual that should have died at birth. Some people just can't do certain things at a competent level even with effort. There are fairly simple things I have put tremendous effort into with crap results. That being said, people should explore anything that interest them, but do it realistically. Above all, enjoy your interest at whatever level you can achieve, high or low, or find something else that suits you better. No

[Anonymous No.4555548]

>>4555340
Fuck this is really good and soulful not gonna lie

[Anonymous No.4555555]

>>4555542
>muscular dystrophy
That’s a horrible example retard. That’s like saying a normal person and someone with Down syndrome have the same disadvantage of becoming competent at math compared to a person with a slightly above average iq. Asians have no advantage over any other race when it comes to art, it all comes down to how much time you spend on something. Why do you think there are so many women good at art?

[Anonymous No.4555557]

>>4555542
Bringing disabilities into it is a bit disingenuous anon. Yeah sure if you are absolutely fucked in the head and are not a savant then sure, you wont ever be able to improve as an artist as well as almost everything else. We are talking your average brain attempting "gitting gud" at a new hobby. Which is possible for everyone with enough dedication. Sure you might never become Guthrie Govan or Kim Jung Gi. But you can get good enough for self satisfaction or to make a decent living.

[Anonymous No.4555558]

>>4555555
BASED

[Anonymous No.4555564]

>>4555555
oh damn checked my dude

[Anonymous No.4555565]

>>4555340
Its clear as day thats a 3d model and assets from clip paint studio. Its basically cut and paste like tim buckley comics. Not a single line drawn by a human.

[Anonymous No.4555569]

>>4555555
>He doesn't believe asians have higher iq.

Also females make eye candy, they can't do anything else. They're incapable of understanding how form turns in space.

[Anonymous No.4555583]

>>4555569
I never said anything about asian’s iq, unless you are tying to suggest iq is related to art skill. Which again why are there then so many women proficient in art?

[Anonymous No.4555586]

>>4555569
>>4555583
Mechanical proficiency in any hobby isn't in anyway related to IQ. Just look at completely mute and incapable autism savant cases. They can paint or play piano like a master but can't tie there shoe.

[Anonymous No.4555613]

>>4555555
checked, glad the get was got by a non retarded post

[Anonymous No.4555709]

>>4555583
>iq is related to art skil
It is, higher IQ = faster gains.

[Anonymous No.4555727]

>>4555415
imagine the truth. blesed post. fuck fake bitches. AM I right iveta?

[Anonymous No.4555734]

>>4555451
>Asian women are disgusting, vile garbage.
true

t. yelowboi

[Anonymous No.4555937]

>>4555292
this, but unironically.
All people who cry about talent irl that I know are people who can't sit for 1 hour straight practicing, let alone doing it consistently, over a long period of time.

[Anonymous No.4555973]

>>4555283
FUCK
CHINKS
The japanese babby in op is based tho

[Anonymous No.4555976]

>>4555435
Based. OP is just a lazy loser

[Anonymous No.4555988]

>>4555569
Post your work. I’m female and I guarantee my art is better than yours.

[Anonymous No.4555997]

>>4555557
That's not what's being argued though. Anti-talent copefags invite themselves to be baited by threads like these by being such absolutist cunts about it. Anti-talentfags will insist that ANY difference in ability between artists is 100% due to effort, and anyone pointing out that this might not be the case is 100% a lazy pos who should be drawing right now

[Anonymous No.4556020]

>>4555973
>Japanese baby
OH NO NO

[Anonymous No.4556054]

>>4555283
Asian influence in western countries will grow so much in the next 40 years that streets are legit gonna look like bladerunner.

[Anonymous No.4556056]

>>4555277
>>4555277
>>4555277
superior 5 finger grip.

[Anonymous No.4556615]

>>4555445
if you did it at age 5 religiously you'd have 8 years to go until 13 anyway it's not exclusive to time its just hours of practice and starting earlier.

[Anonymous No.4556620]

>>4555277
is there any scientific evidence of this stuff you crabs spew over and over? you'd think scientists would hop onto investigating that shit. not just talent but the whole racial thing.

[Anonymous No.4556627]

>>4555340
don't know why /ic/niggers think anime is hard to draw. Just do figure drawing for 6 months and you can easily draw le animes. The only hard thing is crazy comic book perspectives but that's hard no matter what you're drawing.

[Anonymous No.4557238]

Not every kid is a baby einstein that magically absorbs everything you put in front of them.
Talent is real, and it manifests itself at an early age, true, but claiming that the kind of shit you see in the OP pic is normal for all kids and not a select few is absurd.

[Anonymous No.4557242]

>>4555583
It absolutely is. The same is true for all skills.

[Anonymous No.4557252]

>>4556620
but they did and its all bullshit pretty much
just like the iq strawmans

[Anonymous No.4557257]

>>4556620
>scientists
>researching race in 2020
Did you even think about it for a second?

[Anonymous No.4557269]

>>4555293
cope
>>4555295
cope
>>4555304
cope
>>4555310
cope
>>4555313
cope
>>4555359
cope
>>4555432
cope
>>4555435
cope
>>4555445
cope
>>4555474
cope
>>4555490
cope
>>4555565
cope
>>4555583
cope
>>4556620
cope
>>4556627
cope

[Anonymous No.4557272]

>>4555435
>>4555469
>now tell me OP what are you going to do about it
He'll just make another thread tomorrow for (you's) only to keep getting btfo'd
Everyone knows ''talent'' is a meme and bullshit.
Report these threads and move on

[Anonymous No.4557289]

>>4557272
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO it hurts my feefees so I'm gonna cope and close my ears saying "lalalalala I can't hear you" when presented with dozens of examples which prove that talent is objectively real

[Anonymous No.4557297]

>>4557269
lol

[Anonymous No.4557308]

>>4557289
Post one credible study showing talent is real.

[Anonymous No.4557310]

Tfw not mentally ill enough to make it

[Anonymous No.4557335]

I can draw better than her

[Anonymous No.4557338]

>>4557269
>actually going through this entire thread to seethe at those disagreeing
Don't you have some drawing to do?

[Anonymous No.4557371]

>>4557308
The Decisive Role Of Talent In Visual Arts
If you still cope and say "t-that's not enough"(along with real life examples like child prodigies who btfo 99% of /ic/ or that guy from Blender who made it in 6 months from zero), it's still more than one picture of Bob Ross spouting feel-good bullshit out of his ass.

[Anonymous No.4557379]

>>4557371
You didnt even read the study you referenced, did you?
>Only when children have such an intense interest are they are willing to engage in extensive deliberate practice. And an intense interest in a domain is almost always a sign of innate talent.
Theres a reason your threads get deleted
fucking moron.

[Anonymous No.4557444]

>>4555973
Anon, I...

[Anonymous No.4557451]

>>4555277
Asians have better observation skills due to constant squinting.

[Anonymous No.4557458]

>>4557269
cope

[Anonymous No.4557466]

>>4555478
Why not?

[Anonymous No.4557471]

>she keeps drawing the same thing over and over and over

Its easy this way

[Anonymous No.4557490]

>>4557466
you arnt talented

[Anonymous No.4557493]

This video is old as fuck. How does she draw like now?

[Anonymous No.4557517]

>muh talent, muh ngmi

you fags need to shut up and draw already. You may not be the next kim jung gi, but that doesn't mean you can't be a great and successful artist on your own.

Stop caring about some 13 yo or asian cunt spawn and start caring about yourself. Complaining about your genetics or how old you are is a waste of your time.

[Anonymous No.4557698]

>>4557379
Did you? Or did you just took one quote that fits your narrative out of context?
>These children work harder than do typical children and thus naturally they achieve higher levels. However, this kind of argument assumes that the hard work comes first, the high achievement later and it failson twogrounds. To begin with, even the very first productions of precocious children are advanced. The earliest drawings of Eitan and Peter were not normal. They drew recognizable forms by 2; within a few months Eitan was using linear perspective, and by 3 Peter was drawing very complex, fluid figures in motion. The same kinds of claims can be madefor precocious children inother domains. As just mentioned, the first time 6-year-old Josh Waitzkinplayedchess, after having observed the game just a few times he combed pieces to launch an attack, certainly not a strategy that children normally alight on initially. The second time that Jacob came to his guitar lesson, his teacher decided he was a prodigy. These signs of ability came before any instruction, and before any time for deliberate practice.

[Anonymous No.4557726]

>>4557517
Learning to draw when you'll never make it is a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.4557736]

>>4557379
>Theres a reason your threads get deleted
the Jews fear the genes

[Anonymous No.4557742]

>>4557308
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24957535

[Anonymous No.4557812]

>>4557698
>Did you? Or did you just took one quote that fits your narrative out of context?
Its only the abstract of the whole thing you fucking moron. Ironic because
>I conveniently left out the paragraph before this one to ironically prove my own point!

>''At age 6, Josh watched several games of chess with great interest, and then
began to play chess himself. His coach immediately recognized that he had exceptional ability
because the very first time he played he used the sophisticated strategy of combining pieces to
launch an attack. He was also able to calculate 15 to 20 moves ahead. Like Jacob, Josh showed a
rage to master. He could not be stopped from watching and playing chess for hours each day.''

>''At age 6, Josh watched several games of chess with great interest''
>''He could not be stopped from watching and playing chess for hours each day.''
>great interest
>eventually got a coach
>after getting coached: ''wow hes good''

even the paragraph AFTER
>''Of course, all of these children went on to learn immense amounts about their domain,
and this learning was acquired primarily independently
INDEPENDENTLY
>''Where they differed from ordinary children was in the independence
with which they worked (they needed little or no tutoring) and the ease with which they
discovered the rules of their domain.''
>Indeed, they often had to be dragged away from their
preferred activities in order to eat, sleep, go to school, and be sociable. The INTEREST, drive, and
DESIRE to work on something must be part and parcel of the talent. Of course, as we have already
indicated, and as Charness et al (1996) and Ericsson (1996) have argued, the daily hours spent
working on something lead to improvement that would not occur without the daily work.
However, the DESIRE to work so hard at something comes from WITHIN, not without, and occurs
almost always when there is an ability to achieve at high levels with relative ease

Snap your neck you moron

[Anonymous No.4557839]

>>4555277
>guaranteed replies.jpg

man you guys are morons.

[Anonymous No.4557881]

>>4557812
Are you just pretending to be retarded? Their desire so succeed is also innate genetic trait on top of their natural aptitude. Autistic obsession with mastery isn't something you can just will into existence.

[Anonymous No.4557889]

>>4557881
where in that study does the word ''genetics'' ever come up?

[Anonymous No.4557920]

Arguing with talent tards is a bigger waste of time than them complaining about their lack of talent.

We have this thread often. Your arguing with people who don't want to mentally admit they are at fault. Do yourselves a favor and let these people wallow on board centralized on a skill they themselves admit they have to merit in.

[Anonymous No.4557928]

[Anonymous No.4558027]

>>4557451
This, Asians don’t know it but this the real advantage

[Anonymous No.4558316]

>>4557928
Wow that cat has talent.

[Anonymous No.4558341]

>>4555569
My people have the highest IQ on average, far above any other Europeans or Asians but I do not believe this makes me inherently superior at everything than them. There is much more to art than IQ anyway so it is a moot point.

[Anonymous No.4558357]

>>4558341
Based jew