/beg/ - Beginner thread - Go back to /beg/ edition

[Anonymous No.4544867]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

previous >>4542725

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance.
Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

[Anonymous No.4544872]

Some ground rules to start this thread and the next /beg/ threads off:

>No rules lol
/beg/inner posting is encouraged.
Every point of view is valid even if you were a day into art.
You MUST give advice and/or critique other people's work in order to have healthy interactions with each other so we all can make it.

>Before you post your work
1. It's true that the sticky is a bit outdated and most people don't care for reading it or even do the excerise of the upside down Stravinsky so if that is your case you've come to the right place,
people in here is waiting for you to post your work and give you proper advice. In that light, replies such as "grind more fundamentals" are strongly discouraged since it doesn't help anybody to get better.
We DON'T expect you to know what the general fundamentals are (gesture, anatomy, perspective, drapery, etc.), and we DON'T expect you to know where you can find resources to practice these subjects.
We are happy to provide you those tools in this thread.

2. DO POST your 5 minute sketches that you didn't put much thought into. It doesn't really matter if you're asking for a SPECIFIC advice on a specific subject. You might as well post no text whatsoever along with your work.
If you post a doodle and ask "where did i go wrong" or "how should I continue from here", meme replies such as "Loomis" are strongly discouraged, we don't make fun of one and other here.

Follow these simple rules or maybe not but always remember to be nice to /beg/s and the people giving advice at all times.

[Anonymous No.4544879]

>>4544872
Basiert und Rotgepfilzt

[Anonymous No.4544880]

Remember to be nice frens

[Anonymous No.4544881]

I want to draw, but I don't know what
Can anyone help me out? Might sound silly but I just stare at a blank page every now and then, haven't actually made anything in years

[Anonymous No.4544882]

>>4544881
just be yourself

[Anonymous No.4544883]

>>4544881
10 mins of 30 second posses go:
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing#

[Anonymous No.4544884]

"I don't want to be a renderfag" edition

[Anonymous No.4544886]

>>4544881
draw this

[Anonymous No.4544887]

LOONDIES & JUST DRAW

[Anonymous No.4544889]

>>4544881
If I gave you a picture and told you to draw a copy of it, would you know how to do that? Even if you did a bad job, would you at least know where to start, or would you have no idea?

[Anonymous No.4544890]

>>4544883
that's pretty good

[Anonymous No.4544891]

>>4544886
Y no love for the cone?

[Anonymous No.4544896]

I'm scared of drawing things i really want to draw because I'm not good enough for them to come out like i want

[Anonymous No.4544900]

>>4544896
what do you want to draw?

[Anonymous No.4544902]

>>4544896
https://drawabox.com/lesson/0/2/ready

[Anonymous No.4544904]

>>4544882
im tired of it

>>4544883
this is neat thank you Anon

>>4544886
>>4544889
i went through some formal education so i did grind my cubes and whatnot
just that child like creative part of having some neat idea and wanting to draw it is completely lost, it's all blank

[Anonymous No.4544906]

my hand cramps like fuck here (yellow rings) as soon as i start drawing, what now?

[Anonymous No.4544908]

>>4544900
edgy stuff, the type that is super embarassing to see when it's badly made

[Anonymous No.4544920]

Am I doing this right?

[Anonymous No.4544924]

>>4544906
Loosen your ape grip. stop carving your tool into the surface.

[Anonymous No.4544926]

>>4544920
nigga you've taken one step.

[Anonymous No.4544935]

>>4544924
i turned up the sensitivity when got the tablet and in not pushing "ape" pressure on it, it just starts cramping like hell between my pinky and ring finger.

[Anonymous No.4544939]

Warmup

[Anonymous No.4544946]

>>4544896
Your drawings will always be shit when you start, The thing is to ignore that feeling and move on.

[Anonymous No.4544949]

>>4544920
No, but that's ok, no one does it right in the beginning. It's like playing an instrument, no one sounds good the first time they try, it's not your fault.

[Anonymous No.4544958]

>>4544949
how can I improve? Do I just keep repeating this?
>>4544926
the facial features are really hard for me to do

[Anonymous No.4544959]

/beg/ is being so nice now.

[Anonymous No.4544960]

what sucks what doesnt love you guys.

[Anonymous No.4544961]

>>4544958
>how can I improve?
Draw from reference instead of imagination.

[Anonymous No.4544976]

>>4544960
Your lack of effort sucks.

[Anonymous No.4544979]

>>4544959
it won't last once all these refugges from other boards and webs realise that butt patting won't get them far they weill start doomposting and either fuck off or stay here and be bitter ngmi's, because of the place they themselves created with their ''being nice and no hurting my fee fees allowed'' policy will turn on them.

[Anonymous No.4544980]

>>4544960
drop the shading and focus on construction. Also it's a bit too messy, that's fine later on if that's the style you're going for but right now you need to know exactly where you want to place a line.

[Anonymous No.4544988]

>>4544980
>>4544960
ty i will try harder

[Anonymous No.4544991]

>>4544976
>lack of effort
Any art books you can recommend on how to improve effort

[Anonymous No.4544994]

>>4544991
the Bible

[Anonymous No.4545008]

>>4544884
FUCK off lmao, i explained what I mean

[Anonymous No.4545010]

>have to do gesture first to stop my constructed drawing from looking like shit
>can't know what the gesture is supposed to look like because without construction I don't know where anything is supposed to go
How do I break the vicious cycle

[Anonymous No.4545015]

>>4545010
Learn to improvise.

[Anonymous No.4545017]

>>4545010
stop being a retard and do one thing properly constructing or gesturing

[Anonymous No.4545020]

>>4545015
Yeah I think that's the only way. Being able to switch your brain between calculation and intuition mode as the situation calls for it. It's hard though.

[Anonymous No.4545047]

My only finished piece in last 6 months, I rarely go beyond sketches. It looks quite unappealing.
Please critique.

[Anonymous No.4545049]

Friendly reminder that in order to be a great artist you most first learn how to construct penises from all perspectives. Both solid and flaccid.

Drawing the soft edges of a penis will help you understand form and perspective much better than drawing heads. Lets face it, most of you have rarely drawn a penis, and this is why you're in ngmi status. Notice that all great artists of ancient of drawing penises.

[Anonymous No.4545057]

>>4545049
go to /salt/ faggot
>>4539114

[Anonymous No.4545061]

>>4545047
I like that you captured an emotion and your enjoyment of grilled potato
the potatoes look good

[Anonymous No.4545067]

Kinda tired of the same old crap where I post my construction asking for feedback, and get nothing. Then when I post something on top of the construction I get
>more loomis

[Anonymous No.4545068]

>>4545067
You're still drawing like a very very new beginner and there's not much to say yet. Draw more from reference.

[Anonymous No.4545073]

I just want to draw cute tummies

[Anonymous No.4545074]

>>4545049
cut or uncut?

[Anonymous No.4545076]

>>4545073
a man of taste, wish you all the best on your journey
i hope it's possible to capture different skin textures because i think those are important as well

[Anonymous No.4545077]

>>4545047
"yatta! oishimite naa~~"

[Anonymous No.4545079]

>>4545074
If you want a more western style of drawing you want to focus on cut.

[Anonymous No.4545085]

>>4545068
Alright ya dumb cunt, don't give feedback
I'm not good by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm not
>very very new beginner

I'm done posting here, good job.

[Anonymous No.4545107]

>>4545085
Nice

[Anonymous No.4545109]

>>4545085
Hey man, I know the feeling.
If that's your work from reference then I agree that that is not the work of a very very new beginner, so, good job on that. However your work from imagination is lagging quite a bit behind. Which is pretty normal, drawing from imagination is a lot harder than drawing from reference and you probably haven't practiced it as much.
What's an example of the sort of thing that you'd like to be able to draw from imagination? You probably just need to draw more of those things from reference.

[Anonymous No.4545112]

I'm trying to stop symbol drawing
Any tips or tricks? I've kept on the loomis grind and I know I aint that good.

[Anonymous No.4545113]

>>4545112
Ref for my poopy drawing

[Anonymous No.4545122]

senpai pls redline my drawing thanks in advance

[Anonymous No.4545133]

>>4544867
Hey you useless tranny faggots I’m back after a two week ban because some shit sucking jannie freak didn’t like being embarrassed. How’s my art? How would your faggot worthless weeb ass change it? I obviously think there is some remnant here of worth (but obviously the jannies suck baby cocks) so please help me make my art better so I can create effective propaganda. I’m trying to portray accurate facial features of certain ethnic groups here. How do i more accurately portray in my art that these people belong in Africa?

[Anonymous No.4545136]

>>4545133
Forgot pic related

[Anonymous No.4545138]

>>4545122
What do you even need a redline for when the refence is right there? Just overlay it.

[Anonymous No.4545143]

>>4545112
Well, you're not really making an attempt to not symbol draw.
I think construction will just confuse you at this stage. A lot of people will disagree with me but I think you need a certain amount of mileage in order to be able to use construction effectively, and before you hit that critical point, you will just be doing fake construction without really understanding it, and you'll also be thinking so much about how construction is supposed to work that you won't be paying attention to your basic observational skills, which are what need the most work at this point.
I would recommend picking just a very small part of the reference, his eye or a finger or something, and try to draw it as accurately as you can, both the shape of it and also the shadows and surface textures you can see.

[Anonymous No.4545144]

>>4545136
Back to /pol/, newfriend.

[Anonymous No.4545147]

>>4545136
Did /pol/ organize a raid of this board or something?

[Anonymous No.4545148]

doing master study of value, how can i get my brush stroke for values look like traditional ?
they look too digital.

[Anonymous No.4545150]

>>4545144
You

[Anonymous No.4545152]

>>4545150
I am J-woke myself, but when you spam it on other boards unprompted it's just bad optics, my friend.

[Anonymous No.4545153]

>>4545148
stop using soft edge brushes, they all look like shit

[Anonymous No.4545161]

>>4545112
You aren't symbol drawing, just doing a crap job of copying the reference pose.

[Anonymous No.4545164]

>>4545152
Who’s spamming? I didn’t post any duplicates or anything! I didn’t even mention lampshades! You did!

[Anonymous No.4545168]

>>4545133
please go back to being banned, okay thanks!

[Anonymous No.4545176]

>>4545147
Possibly. That would explain the recent influx of baitposts.

[Anonymous No.4545180]

Ok I know I'm autistic, but what the fuck is symbol drawing then. I have one person saying I am, and one saying I aint. I still don't fully understand what it is. (i appreciate any feedback, I aint gettin angry at these two anons just at this fucking vauge term)

>>4545143
>>4545161

(mine)
>>4545112

[Anonymous No.4545185]

Hello this is my first time on /ic/ because I've decided to finally acknowledge my desire to draw despite having never done so. I've read the sticky and I'll start by drawing everyday things for practice with shapes but are books like Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain actually worth reading? I don't know the board culture yet so dunno if there are better alternatives and if it's a meme.

[Anonymous No.4545188]

>>4544886

[Anonymous No.4545189]

>>4545180
symbol drawing is when you are drawing from reference and end up drawing cartoon-ish forms instead of what you see in the actual reference.
if you're drawing cartoons to begin with it's not symbol drawing, it's just drawing cartoons

[Anonymous No.4545193]

Little Keys to Drawing progress update. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4545196]

>>4545193
>tfw to inteligent to draw

[Anonymous No.4545199]

>>4545189
Thank you anon,
I've been drawing cartoons for like 4 years, and am just now trying to get into drawing realistically. I must have grabbed some bad habits for drawing. Now I finally understand what yall are getting at.

[Anonymous No.4545204]

>>4544844

[Anonymous No.4545207]

>>4545204
what food is this

[Anonymous No.4545209]

is drawabox a meme or should I actually put time into it

[Anonymous No.4545212]

>>4545207
looks like pancakes/crepes
not him btw

[Anonymous No.4545216]

how do you learn anatomy?
i have plenty of books and videos about anatomy, but i dont know what my practice regime should be
is the practice loop studying a chapter from an anatomy book, copying the drawings from the chapter, and applying what i learned on real images?
i know how to do gesture

[Anonymous No.4545223]

>>4545176
>people are posting an anatomically correct drawings of a certain group of people must be a raid
Lol you retard are all the same

[Anonymous No.4545225]

>>4545216
Look at pictures of people

[Anonymous No.4545270]

>>4545193

[Anonymous No.4545281]

>>4545112
Construction of the whole body is a bit too advanced for you at this stage. Start with boxes and cylinders. After you can draw those two comfortably in any orientation, move into manequinezation of the body.

[Anonymous No.4545285]

>>4545193
Try to measure the top of the head to the jaw line and compare that to the extreme ends from side-to-side.

Will help you to box in your figures.

[Anonymous No.4545291]

Anime and realism don't mix

[Anonymous No.4545292]

>>4545291
Only if you're a beginner.

[Anonymous No.4545296]

>>4545292
I mean yeah, if you're good enough you can even make Vore look hot.

[Anonymous No.4545299]

>>4545291
I guess it depends on what you mean by the mix of the two though. I find that the most beautiful anime images tend to have fantastic lighting and depth to them that gives to "realism"

[Anonymous No.4545303]

>>4545193
Face looks like it's staring right at us yet the head is tilted this tells me you don't understand the underlying forms. Draw one billion loomis heads. Proko's portrait videos offer a quick rundown on how to apply facial features to them afterwards as well that is, if you don't wana read Loom's books.

[Anonymous No.4545304]

[Anonymous No.4545306]

>>4545304
Looks like she's got dwarf proportions

[Anonymous No.4545307]

>>4545304
OH NO NO NO ASUKABROS WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO

[Anonymous No.4545310]

>>4545292
I've never drawn a horse and I've never really drawn actual people either so big yikes.

[Anonymous No.4545311]

>>4545304
good shit Asuka senpai!

[Anonymous No.4545315]

[Anonymous No.4545320]

[Anonymous No.4545325]

[Anonymous No.4545335]

>>4544867
Reminder that I’m the most soulful artist on this board. Prove me wrong. Trannies will hate this

[Anonymous No.4545340]

[Anonymous No.4545342]

>>4544979
Pyw

>>4545049
Pyp

[Anonymous No.4545372]

sorry for not resizing this, I can't figure out how to do it on Procreate. For some reason I did the linework for this from imagination a few months ago and never finished it, so I did a quick paint of it tonight. Don't feel comfortable using painterly styles at all so would appreciate any input

>>4545340
this is sick, well done

>>4545325
Few bits of this look a little odd - ie the foot - but mostly great, idk enough about anatomy to give you a better critique though

>>4545320
funky

[Anonymous No.4545392]

I picked up "Swords and Sorcery" bu Bryan Baugh. Not really a great book- typical "how to draw a character standing in exactly one pose" stuff, bit figured I might as well copy some of the drawings.

1/2

[Anonymous No.4545395]

>>4545392

[Anonymous No.4545400]

2/2

[Anonymous No.4545419]

Fantasy-Style by Scott Altmann

He's a lot better at art than me, but something seems off here.

[Anonymous No.4545421]

>>4545419
jesus fuck
no
fuck scott altmann who ever he is
he can't draw faces at all
eyes are WAY too far apart

[Anonymous No.4545424]

>>4545419
How do these books even get published.
Can you not see that that looks like hot garbage?
Literally you would be better off just googling "how to draw anime" tutorials and copying those. (But don't do that either.)

[Anonymous No.4545427]

Torso practice, couple copies and a couple imagination

[Anonymous No.4545433]

>>4545427
not bad
but at your skill level do the whole body just to understand how to place the bodies on the ground plane.
Even just stick legs will be good enough but understanding where these bodies stand will be good practise.
Goes for the head and the arms, Head cna be a circle arms can be lines
but overall they are good
The top left and the middle one bottom roll
The pelvis is too small
The pelvis is the size of the head or the 3/4 of the rib cage

[Anonymous No.4545448]

Which mannequin should I study?

[Anonymous No.4545452]

>>4545448
All of them. Find the one that works best for you, or mix and match to make your own.

[Anonymous No.4545477]

>>4545299
I'm gonna say the C word.

[Anonymous No.4545502]

Im going to leave in order the portraits that I’ve made, the improved state in each one

this dog was the first

[Anonymous No.4545505]

>>4545502
Second

[Anonymous No.4545508]

>>4545505
>4545502
third

this is my instagram @itslockne

[Anonymous No.4545510]

been gone for a minute what's with all the new rules

[Anonymous No.4545516]

>>4545510
newfags got mad that they were told to read the sticky instead of posting shit and larping as non begs, now we are ''/beg/-*instert funny reddit joke* general'' where we all suck eachothers clit.

[Anonymous No.4545526]

>>4545510
Nothing has changed within the minute you were gone. What are you talking about.

[Anonymous No.4545530]

>>4545526
far out brother

[Anonymous No.4545538]

I really suck.
I tried doing minute long gestures and using as little lines as possible.
I ran out of time for all of them so i rushed.

[Anonymous No.4545541]

>>4545538
timed gestures are a meme

[Anonymous No.4545544]

Tried doing some studies of old paintings, the one with the asterisk is mostly from imagination. This also is my first time using Ink in a while, so it's a bit of an experiment with the hatching.

[Anonymous No.4545545]

>>4545544
An example of them before the ink

[Anonymous No.4545552]

>>4545541
Should i do them with no time limit then?

[Anonymous No.4545558]

>>4545552
Of course, you need to be able to understand what is going on and what you're seeing.

[Anonymous No.4545559]

What paid video course does /ic/ recommends?

Right now I'm thinking about getting this one: https://www.udemy.com/course/the-complete-figure-drawing-course-hd/

Once I'm done with it I'll get a more generic one with perspective, objects and other stuffs like that.

The last one will definitely be about colors.

[Anonymous No.4545564]

>>4545558
ok thanks

[Anonymous No.4545569]

>>4545552
The point of the time limit is to prevent you from wasting time polishing turds. Only take as long as you need to get basic construction done then move on to the next.

[Anonymous No.4545578]

>>4544959
unfortunately. we need big boy arnold

[Anonymous No.4545585]

Posted this a few threads ago but could i get some feedback? I feel maybe the breasts are off but I'm not sure how to fix it.

Also I really struggle with poses and end up copying and slightly tweaking some references poses. Any way to get better at poses?

[Anonymous No.4545589]

>>4545585
Did you use a reference? post reference.

[Anonymous No.4545596]

>>4545589
It doesn't look like the reference since I changed around the pose
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/04/56/23/04562317d8936b313350a65899645f66.jpg

[Anonymous No.4545612]

>>4545596
yours is so much better than that. amazing what anime artstyle can do to an art piece

[Anonymous No.4545623]

>>4545538
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij_-HStl04o&

[Anonymous No.4545629]

>>4545452
I've tried doing mannequins from several other pics.
Is there a "universal" mannequin of sorts?

[Anonymous No.4545630]

>>4545623
And don't worry about making gestures look good: experiment! You need to figure out why approaches work to make gestures look good, since you don't have time to polish mediocrity. It's a long road but it'll make you immeasurably better at the human figure, and the art of drawing in general.

[Anonymous No.4545632]

>>4545612
>yours is so much better than that

based crabCHAD!! killing any type of oportunity of self awareness to that anon

[Anonymous No.4545635]

>>4545629
There is no universal anything in art

[Anonymous No.4545636]

>>4545629
mannequins are more harmful to your gainz if anything

[Anonymous No.4545644]

I have been practicing in autodesk sketchbook for mobile, using a cheap stylus.
I'm pretty new to drawing. Do you guys think practicing with a mobile app will help me improve?
I have pen and paper, but I don't carry it on me all the time.

[Anonymous No.4545646]

>>4545632
I don't get it, are you trying to say the anime art style is bad?

[Anonymous No.4545653]

>>4545646
only shitty ones

[Anonymous No.4545656]

>>4545133
>>4545136
>>4545150
>>4545164
cringe

[Anonymous No.4545659]

just found out about stabilization... what should I be putting it at

[Anonymous No.4545660]

>>4545656
ugh..... post-your-work.... ughh....

[Anonymous No.4545674]

Hey put some more work to tweak the jaw and cheek. Also decided to put some more finishing work and removed some edges. If any anons got anything more I should do with it I'm all ears

[Anonymous No.4545675]

>>4545079
>Western = America
cringe

Genital mutilation is a typical Middle Eastern/African practice, akhi.

[Anonymous No.4545678]

>>4545660
Post your cock first.

[Anonymous No.4545685]

>>4545678

[Anonymous No.4545687]

>>4545685
good one

[Anonymous No.4545708]

>>4545538
Using as few lines as possible means simplifying what you see, not being precise. The time limit is there to force you to rush from the start, not just at the end. Allow yourself to be messy.

[Anonymous No.4545715]

>>4544886

[Anonymous No.4545748]

i'm not having fun doing loomis, it feels like homework. i just wanna draw some shit

[Anonymous No.4545749]

Sure it'll look horrible after I post it.

[Anonymous No.4545756]

>>4545749
how long did it take you to get to this point

[Anonymous No.4545760]

>>4544872
>Every point of view is valid even if you were a day into art.
you're all beautiful and unique snowflakes and don't let anybody tell you otherwise

[Anonymous No.4545761]

>>4544867
notes about what

[Anonymous No.4545764]

>>4544891
cones are just gay cylinders.
donuts and spools are cooler shape conceptions

[Anonymous No.4545765]

>>4545760
kys. people like you and him are the reason people come with barely done sketches and ask dogshit questions

[Anonymous No.4545766]

>>4545756
From what?

[Anonymous No.4545775]

>>4544881
i know this feel, I've lost all the little creativity I had, I used to just draw a random line when nothing comes to mind but in less than a minute be able to come up with something nice now I stare at the blank paper nothing in mind and even lines can't guide me.

[Anonymous No.4545777]

>>4545766
...from when you started dawg.
like how long have you been drawing for in general

[Anonymous No.4545783]

>>4545777
Little less than a year. That said, it's not quite where I expected to be a year from when I started. I'm not very pleased with my current results, but that's solely my fault anyway.

[Anonymous No.4545788]

Head to big, torso shortened which has made angle of leg different and extended it. Arms extending wrong distance. Reeeeeeeeeee.

Why is drawing from observation so hard? Do you just gotta keep practicing to fix this or am I a retard?

[Anonymous No.4545792]

please critique

[Anonymous No.4545795]

>>4545783
>>4545749
What books/ tutorials have you done?

[Anonymous No.4545808]

>>4545795
None

[Anonymous No.4545811]

>>4545808
How are you so good? I've been drawing for 2 years and have gone through multiple books and am still no where near your level.

[Anonymous No.4545813]

>>4545788
You need to work more in relating negative spacing with your proportions, This would all come to you intuitively after many tries so don't fret and continue studying from life.
The real challenges comes when drawing from imagination.

[Anonymous No.4545817]

>>4545811
Follow Dave Rapoza's advice from that tweet that gets reposted everywhere.

[Anonymous No.4545822]

>>4545813
also another thing is that the gesture seems slightly crooked so practicing laying down lines of action first should help alot too.

[Anonymous No.4545825]

>>4545817
I'm relatively new here I've never seen it, can you post it please?

[Anonymous No.4545827]

Buu

[Anonymous No.4545829]

>>4545825
https://twitter.com/daverapoza/status/1233286370610728960

[Anonymous No.4545835]

>>4545827
Finally decided to use another brush?

[Anonymous No.4545836]

did some eye exercises and feel alot more confident in how to do eye shapes and what shadows fall where! to the bottom left im also pretty happy with since im starting to realise how useful geometry and line work (is that what its called?) is if you want to something with more shape and form to them

[Anonymous No.4545841]

>>4545829
Thank you

[Anonymous No.4545842]

>>4545808
How'd you learn anatomy then?

[Anonymous No.4545844]

>>4545842
Images

[Anonymous No.4545846]

>>4545112
DRAW BIGGER

[Anonymous No.4545850]

>>4545836
GOD DAMN
Them some nice eyes from this /beg/'s POV

[Anonymous No.4545863]

>>4545850
a spent maybe two hours on the eyes, and i did so because i was trying to better manage charactures and i couldn't understand how eyes needed to be shaped and such
>pic related

[Anonymous No.4545882]

>>4545788
Points. Lines. Angles. When drawing from reference you need to actually compare the points, lines, and angles in relation to each other for it to be accurate; you just need to put in more effort. For example, the point of his right nipple compared to the tip of his stomach hair is higher. The angle of his gut goes down towards the bottom right corner then there is a sharp almost 90 degree turn upward. His leg in your attempt is too short compared to his chin, ect.

While paying attention to negative space is something you should do, the real crux of your issues is just not paying enough attention, not drawing what you actually see, and not spending the appropriate amount of time the piece needs, so slow down and be diligent.

[Anonymous No.4545886]

ass seen in >>4538347 I made an attempt at construction and 3d

i wasn't blessed with talent so, help me refine it and help me git gud

[Anonymous No.4545948]

As a /beg/ which one is easier to understand If i want to do figure drawing. "Figure drawing for all It's worth" by
Loomis or Hampton's "Design and Invention"?
btw I've already read all the books the sticky recommends.

[Anonymous No.4545952]

>>4545948
bof

you can read all day if you want but you have to apply what you just learned

[Anonymous No.4545974]

>>4545882
Visual measuring is king

[Anonymous No.4545977]

>>4545749
>Posts drawings with professional level line quality and sublte indications
>It totes hasn't even been a year since I was a day one /beg/
>Books and tutorials? that shit is for fags who arn't art-chads like me
How'd you become so good then?
>Posts tweet by dave rapoza with basic advice about studying, dicipline and consistency.
How'd you learn anatomy then?
>just look at images lmao

>>4545811
>>4545842
Stop falling for this shit.

[Anonymous No.4545982]

>>4545977
You're not making this thread any better by complaining about the things you don't like

[Anonymous No.4545987]

>>4545977
literally you can get better by reading dave rapoza's tweets and copying human bodies off the internet
dead srs
he tells you to practise everyday and do studies

[Anonymous No.4546004]

>>4545977

It's just a generally accepted fact that whenever someone says "I've only been drawing for x years" they're discounting the nymerous years prior where they totally weren't actually taking it seriously yet so it doesn't count. Everybody does it.

[Anonymous No.4546038]

>>4546004
kek this is true until you reach a level of professionalism where you're well respected for your ability and craft and it becomes "I've been drawing my entire life"

[Anonymous No.4546044]

>>4545427
What's your reference?

[Anonymous No.4546047]

Can somebody help out, I feel like maybe the hat and feet are wrong.

[Anonymous No.4546066]

I'm on keys to drawing and i don't know how to tell if I should move on to the next chapter. I can check yes for all the self-critique parts, but I definitely feel like I did learn something. Do I move on or redo the first chapter? Also how am I expected to feel as I progress? I definitely have a better understanding of the drawing process than I did going into it, but I don't feel too different.

[Anonymous No.4546098]

>>4545829
>" practice for years "
> people praise him like he's Alfred Einstein
This board fucking sucks

[Anonymous No.4546102]

Why is there always multiple beginner threads in the catalog?

[Anonymous No.4546105]

>>4546047
You are a pedophile

[Anonymous No.4546109]

>>4546105
Dilate

[Anonymous No.4546142]

>>4546047
Is paedophaelia an art?

[Anonymous No.4546150]

[Anonymous No.4546155]

>>4545113
>>4545112

ive been using loomis and gave your reference and line wire method a crack, thxs for the ref

[Anonymous No.4546156]

>>4546142
ask the greeks

[Anonymous No.4546159]

>>4546155
he's so smug

[Anonymous No.4546163]

>>4546155

[Anonymous No.4546176]

>>4546105
>>4546142
She has breasts, she's not meant to be a child.

[Anonymous No.4546185]

>>4546098
because people refuse to believe it

[Anonymous No.4546219]

how should I continue from here?

[Anonymous No.4546224]

>>4546047
How in the hell do you crank out drawings so quickly it's actually insane.

[Anonymous No.4546232]

>>4546224
I draw all day, I just want to leave the beginner plateau already.

[Anonymous No.4546283]

>>4545788
Shit looks flat nigga, focus on boxes

[Anonymous No.4546284]

>>4546047
Vagina bones look too high.

[Anonymous No.4546289]

>>4545827
Looks dope

[Anonymous No.4546298]

>>4546047
Looks like she's got two left feet, also they look MASSIVE

[Anonymous No.4546300]

>>4546284
You mean these?
They're meant to be part of her abs/stomach

[Anonymous No.4546301]

Does doing the upside-down Stravinsky exercise really help with drawing what you see better?

[Anonymous No.4546308]

>>4546232
>thinks that drawing will make him better
Don't you know the one simple trick that makes artists improve ten fold in a day?

[Anonymous No.4546313]

>>4546298
Yeah, I see that now, thank you.

[Anonymous No.4546323]

Forgive me Meidri. I have failed you.

[Anonymous No.4546328]

Tell me where I'm fucking up
t. just picked up Keys for Drawing

[Anonymous No.4546329]

>>4546301
If you're just starting out it's pretty good for introducing a beginner to the concept but otherwise you'll really need to practice by doing life/reference drawings and stuff like bargues.

[Anonymous No.4546334]

im still confused on how this will help me make better looking 2hus

[Anonymous No.4546366]

Should I be rotating doing different fundamentals or should I focus on just one for now?

[Anonymous No.4546374]

>>4546366
Draw and apply.

[Anonymous No.4546375]

>>4546323
How does the tray and bottle perspective work?

[Anonymous No.4546379]

>>4546374
Draw still lifes or whatever from imagination?

[Anonymous No.4546381]

>>4546379
Whatever you find you can apply the fundamentals to.

[Anonymous No.4546383]

>>4546381
Alright, thanks.

[Anonymous No.4546398]

how do i remember anatomy when i usually forget it about as easily as what i ate 3 days ago

[Anonymous No.4546406]

>>4546398
Define anatomy for us.

[Anonymous No.4546409]

>>4546406
bone and muscle placement relation to each other along with form

[Anonymous No.4546412]

>>4546334
if you can't see the importance of thighs when drawing 2hus then you are not gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.4546437]

>>4545304
You should balance your proportions. Thre is no synergy with big parts/small parts.
Pose feels pretty alive but you need to remember about story telling. What she's even doing?
That ear symbol looks more like a tumor tho.

>>4545315
Focus on figure proportions and get it right before going in to detail. Far right figure pelvis is way too low for example.

>>4545340

observe your own feet and how the anckle joint works. Learn limits and turn range, than you can exaggerate stuff.

>>4545400
Stop chicken scratching, use bold pencil for dark shadows and contours, should make your drawing more appealing to look at.

>>4545544
>>4545545
You got problem with placing forms on 3d sphere. Also there is lot of symbols. Focus on super simple forms. Learn how depth works.

>>4545585
Looks stiff, gesture drawing and motion studies should help.

>>4545674
Her back of the head is way too small, makes her look retarded. Also your facial features are wron in perspective, same as horns. Focus on simple forms.

>>4545749
Looks fine. Perspective on 2d face plane is a bit off tho, but its passable.

>>4545792
Face is cute. Hairs are lovly. Her fingers looks more like a fries. Pelvis could be wider and S line more exaggerate.

>>4545827
Awsome

[Anonymous No.4546456]

Does this look too terrible? I don't really draw guys

[Anonymous No.4546493]

>>4544911
if you think of the head as a 3d object, it's surface will be made out off flat planes (pic related is from Loomis's Drawing the Head and Hands). depending on how detailed you wanna go, these planes can be thousands or just a few. They dictate where the features of the face go, you can even think of these features as being made up of planes since they're 3d objects themselves. Right now for you, I would suggest trying to find the most basic shapes of the head and to visualise them in 3d space, the loomis head is good for that. Then you can start placing the secondary forms such as the brow ridge, a simplified cube for the nose and half sphere for the mouth region.

[Anonymous No.4546494]

Roast me
I'm trying to draw with bushes, but all I do looks muddy and incompetent

[Anonymous No.4546498]

I'm still learning and haven't been studying for that long, and would really appreciate a critique on my sketch.

Here's a link to the reference I used: https://unsplash.com/photos/FG1FcfLA_I8

I'm trying to imitate WLOP's style, as seen here: https://www.deviantart.com/wlop

Thanks.

[Anonymous No.4546500]

>>4546219
you're good to go buddy. enjoy the millions of followers

[Anonymous No.4546502]

I guess I am beginner since I started drawing like a 2 years ago?

[Anonymous No.4546506]

>>4546398
the same way you remember anything, continuous use.

[Anonymous No.4546528]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPwCttDbS5c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phaJXp_zMYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xLUO4qXEyw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t3G1uvnzfA

yall niggas are ngmi

[Anonymous No.4546538]

>>4546456
if I hide the anime face then it becomes more acceptable

>>4546328
Are... Are you drawing with a biro?

[Anonymous No.4546546]

>>4546494
Stop doing individual strands of hair, look at what portrait artists do. Your shapes are kind of uninteresting, and I'm not sure what's going on with the ear and neck region. Otherwise, your lips are good and your proportions aren't awful

[Anonymous No.4546563]

>>4545304
changed

[Anonymous No.4546573]

>>4546494

[Anonymous No.4546596]

>>4546044

[Anonymous No.4546639]

did i get the butt good? where can i find good butt refs?

[Anonymous No.4546642]

>my new tablet arrived and am getting used to digital for the first time
>my habit of drawing with the wrist is coming to bite me in the ass
I deserved this

[Anonymous No.4546655]

>>4546563
Here is some redlines, please look into the anatomy of the neck the head is almost falling off there.
Keep it up, you have improved much Asukabro!

[Anonymous No.4546657]

How do I into proper construction? Every time I draw it always feels off.

[Anonymous No.4546670]

>>4546657
I've been wondering about this as well.

[Anonymous No.4546672]

>>4546655
thanks

[Anonymous No.4546676]

>>4546657
What is "proper construction"?

[Anonymous No.4546683]

I don't know why but it looks stiff, I even tried to make it look dynamic

[Anonymous No.4546692]

Hello, can someone give me construction crits before I continue working on it?

[Anonymous No.4546694]

>>4546692
Just overlay it

[Anonymous No.4546706]

>>4546692
Her mouth should be slightly open, her eyes smaller. For the nose, erase the line on the right and draw the outline on the left of it (almost a straight line) you can put light later on on the right to build the shape.
Make her nostrils point toward the nose tip.
Hair : there's a clear line where the skull is visible, don't put the shape over it, you can fade later to give a better effect
Take this with a grain of salt, I'm still kinda beg.

[Anonymous No.4546715]

>>4546437
Thank you

[Anonymous No.4546719]

>>4546683
it's not the only thing that is stiff if you catch my drift

[Anonymous No.4546721]

Has anyone grinded boxes and actually felt like they got something from it?
Can I just spin boxes around in Blender and draw those or do I have to get real physical boxes?

[Anonymous No.4546722]

>>4546047
link me your blog/twitter page NOW.

[Anonymous No.4546727]

>>4546538
>Are... Are you drawing with a biro?
You gotta make do with what you have

[Anonymous No.4546733]

>>4546722
I don't really have one

[Anonymous No.4546734]

i suppose i made the gandalf one too light and should redo it

[Anonymous No.4546736]

>>4546328
It's fine for someone just starting out. Try and observe the outlines of the objects you're drawing as closely as possible, you will notice many little small irregularities that you would not see with just a quick look.

[Anonymous No.4546754]

>>4546437
Thanks Anon, should I do another basic sketch and post it? Maybe you can see where my perspective is off.

[Anonymous No.4546757]

>>4546098
>>4545977
Seriously, if that's all you can get from rapoza's tweet you're doing it wrong. He rambles a bit but there's some golden advice there that I'm pretty sure not many follow.

[Anonymous No.4546762]

>>4546757
A lot of 4chan extensions let you embed tweets. But it only shows the first tweet, not the whole chain. So I'm guessing they don't use/know twitter and just went off the first one.

[Anonymous No.4546774]

got lazy with the bowl, didn't even bother with background and table. allah forgive me

Still, traditional brushes in photoshop seem absolutely amazing.

[Anonymous No.4546779]

>>4546706
Thanks for pointing this out, it seems to look better now. Still open to anyone's crit

[Anonymous No.4546780]

I've tried flipping the canvas, played with liquify... maybe I've just been staring at it too long but the eyes seem a bit off to me.

Any critique welcome, my first attempt at a painterly style.

[Anonymous No.4546781]

>>4546004
It's not like I was an uber /beg/ when I started but I can't say drawing was even a hobby for me before.
Fortunately I saved most of my old drawings. This one is from august. I do have way worse drawings but that'd be cherry picking. I was pretty proud of this one at the time.

[Anonymous No.4546787]

>>4546780
The eye in shadow should be a bit darker, they also alone be pure white.

[Anonymous No.4546790]

>>4546781
See, your "I wasn't even drawing" is still better than anything a lot of begs (me included) can put out.

[Anonymous No.4546791]

>>4546790
It's gotta be the neuroplasticity.

[Anonymous No.4546796]

>>4544867
made this illustrationa few weeks ago, any ideas to imporve this one?

[Anonymous No.4546810]

Some face studies.
I've been drawing on and off since I was in middle school, and wishing I worked as an illustrator for years but always too lazy to take it seriously. Anyway maybe quarantine is the opportunity to get gud.

I'm having trouble with making my drawings actually look like the models. Whenever I finish constructing a head I have to tweak and tinker with it forever before it looks somewhat like what I'm referencing. Any tips ?

[Anonymous No.4546817]

>>4545765
>what is sarcasm?

[Anonymous No.4546827]

>>4546780
It's not really the eyes that are the main issue but the face itself seems skewed. Her nose, lips, and chin is facing directly at you but her eyes and forehead would suggest that her head is facing slightly away from you.

[Anonymous No.4546834]

some imagination practice. why does this burn 8x as many brain calories as observational drawing but ends up even worse

[Anonymous No.4546837]

>>4545760
You should practice your reading comprehension since you're not practicing art anyway.

[Anonymous No.4546840]

>>4546834
looks great desu

[Anonymous No.4546843]

>>4546796
Draw the rest of the horse.

jk anon, this is pretty dope.

[Anonymous No.4546853]

>>4546787
>>4546827
Thanks for the notes anons, very helpful.

[Anonymous No.4546857]

>>4546840
thx. I'll just keep going

[Anonymous No.4546873]

how should I continue from here

[Anonymous No.4546877]

I haven't colored in a long time, are my shades right?
What parts have I messed up at?

[Anonymous No.4546879]

>>4546873
No need. You’re already gmi.

[Anonymous No.4546883]

>>4546873
great reaction image desu

[Anonymous No.4546884]

>>4546877
The age mostly

[Anonymous No.4546891]

>>4546873
His eyes have the soul of a man trapped in a dogs body. Every waking moment of his is an absolute nightmare.

[Anonymous No.4546893]

>>4546877
>shades

you don't even know what shades are, you stupid nigger

[Anonymous No.4546898]

>>4546893
I mean the shading.
The light is coming from the top right, I put the shade in the lower right, I wanted to know if I got it right.

[Anonymous No.4546900]

>>4546898
* I put the shade in the lower left

[Anonymous No.4546903]

>>4546898
>I wanted to know if I got it right.
You always ask this question that could've been answered easily if you had used reference.

[Anonymous No.4546905]

>>4546898
you are literally shading sausages no exageration, you barely know human anatomy, i could point out every mistake but you still wouldn't get why since you barely know basic anatomy.

[Anonymous No.4546921]

My attitude and improvement is minuscule in 2 months of trying from a starting point. I want to leave the entry stage badly. I don't want to think that I'm below average.

[Anonymous No.4546926]

ultraflat. colors I like somewhat though
another discard

>>4546877
add shadow from hat on hair

[Anonymous No.4546928]

>>4546926
thanks

[Anonymous No.4546936]

>>4546926
I liked it in the program more, in browser it become desaturated so even colors is not good anymore ;

[Anonymous No.4546937]

>>4546877
Add a couple of features to the character, another good 10 years of age would be okay in order to make her "legal"

[Anonymous No.4546956]

>>4546905
>you barely know human anatomy
I wasn't aware my anatomy was that outright terrible, I thought it was okay at the very least.
The body wasn't meant to have much muscle if at all so I thought it was alright.

I realise you may not want to but could you at least tell me some parts where I messed up or what I parts I should focus on improving?
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.4546966]

>>4546956
I wouldn't put too much stock in that guy's comment, it looks fine for a simplified anime body, although obviously there's still room for improvement. Just keep studying artists you like and see how they do their shading.

[Anonymous No.4546979]

>>4546966
Alright

[Anonymous No.4547010]

>>4545188
pussy ass bitch afraid to get blacked ass nigga
lil gay whiteboi darken your values more u massive gay faggot ur mom gay

[Anonymous No.4547013]

>>4546956
your problem is the same as 99% of begs you are not thinking in the forms you are just drawing the outlines/siluete, at this point even basic anatomy would make your drawing look more real not in the realistc style but rather to not look like a flat surface, but you think that just knowing the lenght of the limbs is basic anatomy.

>light comes from the top right
yet the back of his triceps only have a thin line that goes from her shoulder to her elbow, it doesn't vary his form because it seems that is a flat surface just like the lower part of her forearm,right leg,feets and face.

you see how you shaded the hat not in a vertical line but in diagonal one, thats because its has a round form, thats what you should have done for the rest of the body but you can't, because you don't know anatomy to the point that you don't know the the waist is not a flat surface and thats why you didn't shade her right side from the ribs to her lower back despite the light coming from the top right, is directly under her arms yet it's not shaded.

but keeping hearing those people that tell you lmao ''don't listen to crabs if they are telling you you art isn't qt and gmi'', you are gonna keep having the same errors and then larp about how you studied one gorillion of books but you can't improve and getting gud is black magic like you have done for the last months.

[Anonymous No.4547019]

I barely know human anatomy (and anime conventions) but maybe something like that is sufficient

[Anonymous No.4547024]

>begs redlining begs

Never change /ic/ plox! now if could get a change of pose that would make my day

[Anonymous No.4547027]

>>4547024
Said the /beg/. Hope you stay bad, ungrateful fuck.

[Anonymous No.4547032]

>>4546498
Without going into general advice of "loomis" and "learn anatomy" especially the face There are many specific things that are different from the ref and going into detail with everything would take ages. Still I would support you in getting to WLOP's level but a lot of work and human studies will be needed.

Not a bad start though, I would suggest you use a greater variety of values in your rendering becasue it is too uniform. Train your value and color observational skills because they are very much needed in painting and rendering, from this picture yours seem very much untrained.

On the lips, the lips are generally smaller than one thinks, even if they are made stronger by makeup, they never stretch to the corners of the mouth unless you wear clown makeup. The tiny dark corners of the mouth are very important parts of the face to convey the extrepssion.

[Anonymous No.4547033]

>>4547019
>I barely know human anatomy
No need to get ironic about your limitations shitface if anything you should thankful for the feedback that was given to you instead of acting as an entitled /beg/er

[Anonymous No.4547035]

>>4547013
Ok thanks

[Anonymous No.4547039]

New Thread
>>4547036
>>4547036
>>4547036

[Anonymous No.4547040]

>>4547033
>you should thankful for the feedback that was given to you
But I never receive any feedback. :/

[Anonymous No.4547108]

>>4545207
spring rolls

[Anonymous No.4547137]

>>4547032
Thank you so much, your post was detailed and I learned a lot. I really appreciate the time you took to help, and your rendering is absolutely beautiful.

this was too reddit so faggot nigger etc

[Anonymous No.4547341]

Help me, anons.

Why isn't she beautiful yet?

I followed Loomis and proper anatomy, and I STILL feel like I'm polishing a turd. :(

[Anonymous No.4547415]

>>4547341
Too much soft brush, do a constructive sketch. Also that yellow is a bit weird and the red is to strong of a shift. Try making blush with a soft bruh on another letter with the soft light blend mode. Then mess with the opacity till it looks natural.

[Anonymous No.4547441]

Please help, I’ve been working on the arms for too long and nothing is looking right they keep coming out short or long

[Anonymous No.4547473]

>>4547415
Okay, I softened the blush and added some more harsh lines to the makeup. I also added freckles so it doesn't look so soft. What do you think?

[Anonymous No.4547591]

>>4546528
heaters.

[Anonymous No.4547649]

I'm on keys to drawing and i don't know how to tell if I should move on to the next chapter. I can check yes for all the self-critique parts, but I definitely feel like I did learn something. Do I move on or redo the first chapter? Also how am I expected to feel as I progress? I definitely have a better understanding of the drawing process than I did going into it, but I don't feel too different.

[Anonymous No.4547785]

>>4546834
Baalbuddy?

[Anonymous No.4548006]

where do I learn to draw anime/cartoon eyes really nicely

[Anonymous No.4548039]

>>4548006
your high school anime club

[Anonymous No.4548044]

>>4548039
k brb headingn to my old highschool

[Anonymous No.4548082]

>>4548044
hope things go better this time, best of luck