/TRAD/ Traditional General

[Anonymous No.4534707]

Post paintings, drawings, pastels, watercolors, sculptures, or anything you've created in traditional media for critique

[Anonymous No.4534726]

I drew senna, but her hair looks like dicks in the reference, and it looks like dicks in my drawing, so no harm no foul I guess?

[Anonymous No.4534797]

I posted the trashy watercolor near the end of the thread. Have since watched more tutorials and here's a second attempt.

[Anonymous No.4534961]

On going, need to tweak the nose eyes and work on those soft edges

[Anonymous No.4534965]

>>4534726
neck's too long, but hey at least you're finally changing it up

[Anonymous No.4535083]

>>4534797
nice washes, I think the blue one is really successful in particular. In the bottom right your trees are bleeding into your back ground, maybe try waiting a bit for it to dry all the way before working on edges? Anyway nice job.

>>4534961
damn that eye is crazy good, would love to see this finished.

[Anonymous No.4535093]

Reposting from the last thread, can someone please point me at the good watercolor tutorials that has detailed view of the techniques instead of "draw owl with me" style?
I really liked Shibasaki channel(not to mention that he is pure pleasure to hear and look at) but after the basics he too not giving much about technique points.
Picrelated is my last try that is not a lot of pain to look at.

[Anonymous No.4535132]

>>4535093
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC17qW0wrebSnRAl5EWKuWgA
jongsik Shin is a god
Didn't know there were new actual tutorials on there, I haven't watercolored for years. If I could do it like this. I'd do it more. I haven't the patience.

[Anonymous No.4535138]

>>4535093
Also, James Gurneys' youtube.

[Anonymous No.4535167]

>>4535083
>nice washes, I think the blue one is really successful in particular.
Thanks man. I was actually super critical of the blue one myself. The weird streaks were supposed be like sunrays that got lighter near the center, but well, they just didn't get lighter. Too much paint on my brush I guess. I tried lifting some off with a dry brush but the damage was done. And yeah, I definitely didn't wait long enough for the last one to dry before adding in those trees. I also tried to add a little more sun to the center which is why that's wonky too. Though it does give it that African hazy savanna look a bit. So I'm ok with it. Overall I definitely gotta try out some more stuff and play around with it more.

[Anonymous No.4535183]

>>4535132
>>4535138
Thank you

[Anonymous No.4535483]

two latest figures

[Anonymous No.4536265]

Did this with a ballpoint pen without sketching.

[Anonymous No.4536279]

>>4536265
Excellent, but I don't speak Akbar.

[Anonymous No.4536414]

reposting my Rodan from last thread. I'm a sculptor, but Ive never really painted before this so im still very much an amateur. Howmadoin?

[Anonymous No.4536424]

>>4536265
did you use any digital touch up? How did you get the white/pale blue hues with just a ballpoint?

[Anonymous No.4536436]

>>4535483
what media? It looks like charcoal in the thumbnail, but when I zoom in its got such nice bleed.

[Anonymous No.4536444]

>>4536265
Awesome, kumpel

[Anonymous No.4536522]

>>4536265
Ah, it's you again! I really liked the thread you made a while back with your artwork. I hope that your foot is doing better. As always great job, I hope you keep up the good work.

[Anonymous No.4536560]

>>4536424
>did you use any digital touch up?
Yes, added a bit of white and made lines darker. Hope this doesn't disqualify me for this thread.

[Anonymous No.4536567]

>>4536560
oh god no! Digital touchups are as much a part of traditional art as fixative or clear coat: its about preserving the vibrancy of the piece and applying another skillset to you art.

[Anonymous No.4536576]

>>4536444
Thanks!

>>4536522
Thank you so much of rthe nice words! I will do my best to draw more.

[Anonymous No.4536578]

>>4536576
*for

[Anonymous No.4536608]

>>4536414
here's another piece I'm working on.

[Anonymous No.4536716]

>>4536436
I used a 2B graphite pencil with a blending stump

[Anonymous No.4536719]

>>4536265
You have a blog or something? This is dope

[Anonymous No.4536920]

>>4536265
Woah didn’t think I’d see you again. You’re even better now

[Anonymous No.4537101]

This was way out of my comfort zone but I guess I'm happy with it. I feel like I had a hard time controlling my brush strokes and it shows. On one hand I want it to look loose. On the other I don't want to sacrifice accuracy and use looseness as a crutch. Also cool seeing my art used for a general (i'm the cat guy)

[Anonymous No.4537140]

>>4537101
would you consider softly brushing some thicker paint onto parts of it when it's dried, to give it some texture and brighter areas?

I did one last coat of paint on this

[Anonymous No.4537730]

>>4534961
Worked on the nose and pushing up those mid tones, tomorrow ill work on the mouth

[Anonymous No.4537741]

Working on this painting of a valley but nervous because it has a ton of irregular boulders with grass and flowers in between in the foreground that I think will be tricky to look good

[Anonymous No.4537753]

>>4537101
Very nice! So many painters avoiding hands and you go right in.

>>4537140
Nice to see the verdant background and really looks cool overlapping the figure.

[Anonymous No.4537935]

>>4537741
Is that black patch a rock or a cut hole into the land?

[Anonymous No.4537971]

Watercolor study after watching some tuts.
I still have a feeling that I don't quite understand this medium. Any suggestions on how to get a better hold on it?

[Anonymous No.4538013]

>>4537935
It’s a big as boulder sitting in the sun. There’s a tiny little creek behind the boulder. It will be the foreground focus

[Anonymous No.4538082]

>>4538013
at first glance it looked like a hole in the mountain, maybe its just me

[Anonymous No.4538257]

>>4538082
How’s this looking? I decided against the flowers in the grass since the spot only had super tiny ones that could barely be seen but maybe I’ll change my mind again. I think a splash of red or pink up front would be extra pretty but too cheesy?

[Anonymous No.4538312]

>>4537971
are you using 100% cotton paper? watercolor relies on paper quality so much. gouache is more forgiving in that regard.

[Anonymous No.4538326]

>>4536414
Do you have pics of your sculptures?

[Anonymous No.4538381]

wip of another borker done in goauche. to repeat my question from the last thread - anybody got a goauche set to reccomend? I've been looking at the HIMI/MIYA one since portability and price is pretty important to me.

[Anonymous No.4538393]

>>4537140
Why is her body white and her head black?

[Anonymous No.4538802]

>>4538312
Yes, though this one was not so good(I am trying different paper), pretty thin and wet in wet looks ugly on it. Oh well, I guess it is just a matter of trial and error, I'll keep trying.

[Anonymous No.4538816]

>>4538381
try using acrylic goauche, its the bomb

[Anonymous No.4538818]

>>4537741
the boulder creates a tangent with the mountain in the midground
separate their silhouettes and values to make it read better

[Anonymous No.4538880]

>>4535093
There's tons of watercolorists on YouTube, just try a couple and see which ones you like. Or, drive you the least crazy. I watch The Mind Of Watercolor from time to time, hes good for basic techniques - his paintings aren't the most amazing, and he's got the"old man rambling" thing, but he's worth a watch.
Some others would be Makoccino, Jessica Henry, Gary Tucker, Nitin Singh.

[Anonymous No.4539356]

new to painting, using acrylics and burnt umber/phthaloblue
here's a walnut

[Anonymous No.4539372]

>>4539356
very nice! fantastic texture and brushwork, you really got the shadows and light to interact in a nice way. And for such an ambiguous subject you translated it really well into lines and forms. I knew it wasn't a rock, I didn't quite read it as a walnut, but I didn't read it as a rock, so you nailed the specificity of your subject matter better than I probably could've with that small amount of brushstrokes.

Here's more to this kinda crappy cubist woman

[Anonymous No.4539449]

>>4538381

finished the doggo

[Anonymous No.4539512]

>>4539449
try to use less water, it's crapping up the paper, solid work though

Added a landscape to this still life

[Anonymous No.4539536]

>>4539512
thanks!

- the binders in the paint have completely separated from inside the tubes, so I can't get pigment unless I flood the cheap mixed media paper. Do you have any suggestions for brands of paper/paints?

[Anonymous No.4539568]

>>4539536
I don't use watercolor, but maybe just go a weight up if you have to use a lot of water. Watercolor's a tough one cause it's so expensive, it's hard to just tell people buy greater weight paper when that like doubles the price.

[Anonymous No.4539577]

So THIS is the power of Jewish art (Angelus Novus)

[Anonymous No.4539580]

hey /trad/ digifag here, recently got some oils and turps as a gift, how do i work this shitty ass medium

[Anonymous No.4539589]

>>4539577
G E I S T

[Anonymous No.4539594]

>>4539580
Try eating them

[Anonymous No.4539604]

>>4539594
they're kinda greasy and buttery, tastes like skin pomade
what now tho

[Anonymous No.4539610]

>>4539604
I can tell you’re a furry artist because you’re trying to role play with everyone like a degenerate

[Anonymous No.4539611]

>>4539610
even if i am, which i'm not, i'm here for oil tips and not culinary advice numbnuts

[Anonymous No.4539625]

My hands but my ADHD has already made me lose interest. When drawing hands should I bother with the hand prints and the swirlies? Like in the areas I see finger prints I'm tempted to add a little bit, just a hint. Regardless I haven't posted on here before, but I've been lurking for a long time.

[Anonymous No.4539631]

>>4539625
>When drawing hands should I bother with the hand prints and the swirlies?
depends on how representational you want to get; it's perfectly fine to be more abstract; it's perfectly fine to want to be more stylized; it's perfectly fine to want to be photorealistic

[Anonymous No.4539662]

>>4539625
nice work, what kinda supplies u like?

[Anonymous No.4539709]

>>4539662

I'd like to say ohh I only use [insert namebrand here] but in reality it's whatever's closest at hand. A pencil is a pencil as long as it's not complete garbage.

[Anonymous No.4539718]

>>4539631
Alright, thanks I guess it is up to me-- I gotta figure out what I like best. Final question though, when will I finally be happy with my own work?

[Anonymous No.4539739]

>>4539718
>when will I finally be happy with my own work?
from where you are now? 2-3 years

[Anonymous No.4539742]

>>4539718
>when will I finally be happy with my own work
never unless you're a comic artist

[Anonymous No.4539754]

>>4539739

so, 4-6 years for you?

[Anonymous No.4539756]

>>4539754
nah im happy now

[Anonymous No.4539775]

>>4539739
Lol thanks but I can't decide whether that's a slight or actual honest perspective. A little bit of both?

[Anonymous No.4539780]

>>4539625
Nice work anon. Inspired me to draw a hand for the first time in a while.

[Anonymous No.4539807]

>>4539780
Ayy nice, glad I inspired someone. Now if you finish it, I'll finish mine as well.

[Anonymous No.4539827]

couldnt paint in my tiny apartment, budt since uni was suspended and i moved home i started painting again. its still fun, and progress, though slow, is being made. 1/2

[Anonymous No.4539829]

2/2

[Anonymous No.4539837]

>>4539775
3 years isn’t a long time don’t be a zoomer

[Anonymous No.4539840]

>>4539837
but i am, can't help it

[Anonymous No.4539928]

>>4539827
Really cool looks simillar >>4537730 but less pretentious
Also like the other one, acrylics??

[Anonymous No.4539939]

>>4539928
oil on canvas. the second one is on cardbord. desu i probably couldnt do anything protentious if i wanted to. my drawing skilss are just enought to do a basic portrait.

[Anonymous No.4539957]

>>4539775
how long did it take for you to get "here"? do you exaggerate the darkest darks in your pieces?
i feel like i should push a lot more blacks

[Anonymous No.4539967]

>>4539957
Honestly I started this sketchbook last year after taking about a 10 year break from 2D work in general. That portrait is my first since maybe sophomore year HS.
And no I don't exaggerate, I usually just take dark reference shots. That being said I always liked the high contrast look.

[Anonymous No.4539974]

>>4539957
Did you start with the rib cage? Honestly I like the detail there but then the quality kinda drops off.

[Anonymous No.4539979]

>>4539974
hips > legs > ribs
ribs seem the same to me--there's just more of them

[Anonymous No.4540105]

>>4538326
I do a lot of work in film, some of my stuff has been in some pretty big movies as background set pieces.

[Anonymous No.4540159]

>>4539957
You need to bring down those highlights, also bones arent white, try to put a bit of raw umber in there...

[Anonymous No.4540168]

>>4540159
they make raw umber charcoal?

[Anonymous No.4540170]

The worst thing of going trad is all the mess

[Anonymous No.4540185]

still doing birds

[Anonymous No.4540186]

New to art and decided to start with water colors. Having a tough time withperspective, establishing vanishing points, and adding small details. Maybe I'm not waiting long enough for it to dry but I'm having a hard time not making everything all washed out.

[Anonymous No.4540188]

I find it weird so many are starting out with watercolour. It's the hardest one imo.

[Anonymous No.4540195]

>>4540188
I've never really worked with acrylic at all so I have nothing to compare it to. What makes you say that?

[Anonymous No.4540207]

>>4540195
Needing to preserve whites, water goes wherever the fuck it wants, light to dark, can't coverup mistakes later, expensive cotton paper.

[Anonymous No.4540209]

This is a drawing i did last year for a contest

[Anonymous No.4540219]

>>4539611
Oil painting is pretty awesome if you ask me. I kick myself for not starting sooner but the years of photography ended up coming in handy as reference material. I do wet on wet and find it pretty awesome for landscapes. For only a total of 6 months painting the learning curve has been steeper than I expected. Working layers back to front is how I paint, and I have learned the importance of thin paint sticking to thick paint will help avoid excessive paint mixing on the brushes and canvas. You will go dizzy quickly if you don’t have good air flow and I now wash my brushes in the lawn. Right now I’m using almost exclusively a 2” brush, fan brush, and knife. I painted the boulders above and my paintings looked like this 6 months ago.

[Anonymous No.4540637]

>have to make a tedious 60 color wheel first week
>ramp down with a 21 triplet of complementary colors following week
>triple that to 63 the next week

[Anonymous No.4540740]

>>4540219
Looks really nice anon but I feel like your composition is a mess and drags the eye to the blurry center.
But I like the look of the mountaintops, though I would have blurred the edges a bit.

[Anonymous No.4541175]

>>4540188
People see a set of a huge range of colours, think it makes financial sense, and try it first. Not realising the high cost of good paper to work on, and the fact the even masters of opaque painting mediums usually struggle with watercolour. The ways of building up a picture can't translate over IF you plan to use the whites of the paper. If you want to use opaque whites, then it is slightly more 'easy', I guess.
Pic by Ian Sidaway

[Anonymous No.4541182]

>>4540209
really good, got more?

[Anonymous No.4541215]

>>4541175
On the other hand, it works really well as a complement to graphite drawing to add some simple but pleasing colour. I don't think many beginners know that though.

[Anonymous No.4541375]

I'll just drop it here since it drawn with oil pastels.
How do one draw with this sh... strange medium?

[Anonymous No.4541431]

>>4541375
Who in their right minds would use oil pastels?
Surely that's aimed only at old grannys, for whom real oil painting is too messy?

[Anonymous No.4541440]

>>4541431
oil pastels are cool to work with and you can have awesome textures with them, you just need a lot of blending and patience with them

[Anonymous No.4541602]

really enjoying painting on primed cardboard, I feel like I can be a lot looser if I don't give a shit about wasting the materials.
>>4540219
feel free to disagree, but I think the best thing for it would be to abandon the dabbed on bob ross trees. Or maybe to carve out the shapes a little more with thick sky paint? Though I'm not sure how to do that if you are committed to a back to front approach.

[Anonymous No.4541626]

>>4541182
thanks, sure, this is kinda self portrait

[Anonymous No.4541663]

any advice pls

[Anonymous No.4541763]

>>4541663
you can add more values, it looks a little bit too gray, look for the darkest dark in your image of reference, and put it in your drawing, in that way you will be able to compare it with the other values in your drawing and correct them

[Anonymous No.4541797]

Could use some critique, I know the eyes are messed up and the black background is pretty boring

[Anonymous No.4541804]

>>4541797
fixed

[Anonymous No.4541811]

>>4540637
How else are you going to get to know your materials and how to achieve precisely the color that you want?

[Anonymous No.4541827]

>>4541431
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xFpGjO50vs
youre not seriously putting down a tool because of some preconceptions are you?
>>4541375
blend. stump, or another pastel in the same colour family. cheap pastels dont handle that too well though.

[Anonymous No.4541834]

heres a miserable failure of an attempt at a neked on a towel in oil paint.

[Anonymous No.4541869]

>>4541834
i like it C:

[Anonymous No.4541871]

>>4541804
I needed a chuckle today, thanks Anon. My only advice is to scrap it and start over. Learn from where you went wrong. Only you know your process and what led to these mistakes. Fix the process- maybe look more closely at the reference or maybe even grid it out. There's no shame in gridding or using a ruler if you're having trouble. My professor once told me that nothing we make is truly precious, don't be afraid to try something on your work or redoing it. You made it, you can make it better.

[Anonymous No.4541899]

>>4541834
Well, I recognized it before I saw your comment so I guess it was succesful in a way.
Did you paint it from life?

[Anonymous No.4541907]

>>4541871
Could you tell me some of the things that are wrong with it or can be improved? Heres the reference I used

[Anonymous No.4541920]

>>4541907
I also did use a grid for the underdrawing but it got lost as I painted, and mistakes just kept building up.

[Anonymous No.4541932]

[Anonymous No.4541939]

>>4541899
>from life?
i wish.
i usually do these in gouache or pencils, but im trying to improve with oils so opted for those this time. i feel like all ive done is waste paint, very unfamiliar with this wet on wet thing.

[Anonymous No.4541960]

>>4541907
>>4541920

do the shape of the head, brow ridge, eyes, nose, and chin all in one go. Try to use one color, that beige. Don't exaggerate though just use it where you see it. I don't know if I'm conveying how I'd approach laying out the linework. Attempt it again! I apologize I chuckled, but I couldn't help laughing at uma thurman weeknd. I didn't mean to insult or belittle, but look at it objectively. It was a successful piece in that you learned and progressed with experience.

[Anonymous No.4541964]

>>4541932
nice hands

[Anonymous No.4541978]

>>4541602
No I honestly think the best is to move on from this particular painting. Every time I’ve attempted to fix a layer it looks even worse. This was from a time when all I was trying to do was practice brushstrokes. The composition is horrible because I composed it on the fly, lately I’m doing a bit of sketching beforehand which help me massively in making flowing composition. I feel like every aspect has improved so I’m happy with the direction I’m heading. I think right now my foregrounds are still the weakest link overall. Here is one from maybe 3 months ago, before I attempted to make a coherent composition. Here’s an example or terrible foreground because I didn’t even try to look at any reference for the grasses etc and it shows. Thanks for the feedback!

[Anonymous No.4541980]

>>4541960
Yea it was my first ever portrait painting, so its all a learning experience

[Anonymous No.4541986]

>>4541939
Anon, practice is never wasted paint plus you didn't even attempt to fill in the background so it's not even finished. You will make many bad paintings but it's necessary in order to get good so please keep trying.

Anyway, I want to get into oils too, it always felt like there was a hurdle but really I should just give it a try.

[Anonymous No.4542001]

>>4541602
Very cool clouds. I’d make the distant mountains much lighter to add depth and distance and progressively darker toward foreground unless the really all about the same distance.

>>4541932
That left hand looks funky and I think the right inguinal crease should not be so strongly defined. Consider doing more hands and faces, the torsos are looking great.

[Anonymous No.4542033]

>>4541932
hoped for a cock

[Anonymous No.4542061]

[Anonymous No.4542093]

>>4542061
What is it?

[Anonymous No.4542260]

I get this feeling that every possible thing that can be done wrong I certainly did wrong.

[Anonymous No.4542291]

>>4542093
It's supposed to be a sheep.

[Anonymous No.4542308]

I like how this one came out

[Anonymous No.4542341]

>>4542308
i don't
your Litith painting is 100x better

[Anonymous No.4542354]

>>4542308
weird right side of the torso, especially at the armpit, feel like its missing a fold or crase you should be seeing.

If you're somehow happy with this, like you said before, more power to you BUT you still got a long way to go. Are you afraid of hands and faces?

[Anonymous No.4542357]

>>4542308
What are these parts meant to be? Is it a fleshy tail?

[Anonymous No.4542369]

>>4542357
I never use digital, now I know why. 3 mins in paint made me reduced to this.

[Anonymous No.4542371]

>>4542357
elephant foot or oversized calf? lol now I cant unsee

[Anonymous No.4542372]

>>4542260
This like really good to me. I don't do any watercolor but I can't articulate anything I don't like. The perspective looks good, the foliage up top came out quite nicely, and I like the little sign. What does it say?

[Anonymous No.4542386]

Finishedl ast night. Pointillism with a black cattle tag marker

[Anonymous No.4542395]

>>4542354
>>4542354
>Are you afraid of hands and faces?
first off, that painting has a hand, so wtf are you talking about, second off, 1% of all reference images I find have a face, and of that 1%, 99% are trash photos.

You guys need to learn the difference between not liking my work, and thinking it's "wrong". If you have shit taste or my work isn't your cup of tea, just shut the fuck up. I can't change my style, but you not liking it doesn't make it "wrong"

>>4542357
>>4542369
digital shitters please leave

[Anonymous No.4542417]

>>4542395
The reality is people connect to faces, not tits. It doesn't matter what your style or ability is; you take a massive hit in appeal by cutting off the head.

[Anonymous No.4542418]

>>4541932
this one is good
i really want to put my mouth on that hairy pussy

[Anonymous No.4542423]

>>4542418
wow thanks for the gold kind redditor :D

[Anonymous No.4542432]

>>4542395
I think that the belief most people hold in regards to artistic style is that it is only a style if it is voluntary. This is why guys like Degas and Picasso can justify the relative simplicity in their work, because they have proven that they are capable of artistic freedom through skill.

It seems like you only paint posed torsos, not because you have made a free artistic decision, but because you can't paint anything else. This disqualifies it from being a "style" choice, and is instead just willful ignorant stagnation.

For now, it seems like you don't really care about the more subtle and sublime things that art has to offer, and are willing to just keep painting this same thing over and over without growing or learning anything new, and honestly if that's what you want to do than all the power to you, just know that that makes you a hobby painter, not an artist.

I think you should try to accept that a bit more, come to terms with what painting is you you, a fun way to unwind, there's nothing wrong with that for you.

[Anonymous No.4542444]

>>4542432
I drew this when I was 22 five years ago, is this hobbyist work? Am i a hobbyist artist or do you just not have the context of the other 9 years of art I’ve done?

[Anonymous No.4542448]

>>4537971
>Any suggestions on how to get a better hold on it?
Do a lot of it. Watercolor is easy to do, extremely hard to master. Your piece isn't awful, you just need to work on feathering your washes, and possible doing more opaque ones - crimsons are touchy, you might want to build those up over several layers, and feather them more, and do more wet in wet washes.
Also, It's always better to do one large wet wash of the lightest values. When i do a figure, I fill the page with water, then do a wash with a very thin yellow ochre, and use a brush or cotton swap to lift it out of the highlight areas, and then tweak the wash until it dries completely, re-wetting if needed. This foundation wash can tie everything together, and you get less busy washes building over each other.
Just keep at it. Watercolor takes a lot of time investment, and figure work is especially challenging because of the need to control your edges and washes.

[Anonymous No.4542456]

>>4539536
>the binders in the paint have completely separated from inside the tubes,
Get a bottle of gum of arabic to rewet the paint. A drop is all you need, a small bottle will last years.
>cheap mixed media paper
There's your problem. Watercolor paper exists for a reason - everyone talks about how expensive it is, but it's not that bad - and can make all the difference.

[Anonymous No.4542465]

>>4542260
It's not a bad painting. I would suggest working bigger washes for the lighter values, and do smaller washes for the darker values. It feels too busy, because of how many small washes you have. Larger washes can help unify a piece.

[Anonymous No.4542473]

>>4542395
Your cutting the heads off is what turns these from art into pure fetish. A disturbing fetish, as well, which is why this will be the only time I'll comment on your work.
I don't know what personal issues you're using /ic to work out, but I wish you'd find somewhere else to do it in. But it's 4chan, the last bus stop for most personal issues, so I know you won't.

[Anonymous No.4542484]

>>4542473
>Your cutting the heads off is what turns these from art into pure fetish.
Tell that to the fucking women posting nothing but pictures like that. It's other people's disturbing fetish not mine. And god forbid I post art on the fucking art board

[Anonymous No.4542485]

>>4542395
I'm not a digital artist, I said I wasn't. But I do want to know what that tail part is meant to be.
>>4542417
I did try to add a face in for him, here >>4542369

[Anonymous No.4542493]

>>4542395
Saying you can't change your style is what lazy students who pout about not being able to draw anime in class do. You should think about whether it is a style or a comfortable crutch. Go try your hand at ceramics or sculpture and see if your "style" still comes through.

[Anonymous No.4542495]

>>4542444
Hey man that's really good, I will from here on out give you the benefit of the doubt.

But I have to ask. Why are painting like this now? I guess I can feel the general idea of it, and honestly I kinda do like your current still life stuff. but I have to say that when I see you new work, I really do not see what you're going for.

[Anonymous No.4542508]

>>4542493
What makes you think I can draw this but I can't do sculpture?

[Anonymous No.4542519]

>>4542508
The fact you posted another art school sketch instead of a sculpture.

[Anonymous No.4542526]

>>4542519
Here's a self portrait I sculpted in ceramics but I had to stop because it was too expensive.

I'm the only real multi-disciplinary artist on /ic/ that's any good. I can make art in any medium from wood sculpture to digital.

[Anonymous No.4542527]

>>4542526
here's a digital piece while I'm at it.

[Anonymous No.4542530]

[Anonymous No.4542533]

portrait pracc

[Anonymous No.4542536]

>>4542527
>>4542369
Good paintings!

>>4542526
That's a of hot flop of mediocrity though

[Anonymous No.4542537]

>>4542372
Well I can't say I hate how it come out at the end myself actually. What I meant is that I feed that I used every watercolor technique in a wrong way while painting it.
>What does it say?
"Road to Kinkakuji temple". I am painting from the photos I took during my trip to Japan from two years ago.
>>4542448
>>4542465
Thank you. I get a feeling these basic things are what actually most important and still somehow entirely omitted in every tutorial.

[Anonymous No.4542539]

>>4542536
I'm glad you liked the tail, and the neck face!

[Anonymous No.4542542]

>>4542539
the face really pulls the whole thing together

[Anonymous No.4542550]

>>4542527
dudes he's right, brian is literally better than 90% of us. so we should probably lay off lol

[Anonymous No.4542552]

>>4542542
It made me chuckle so much while I was doing it, I thought my wheezing laugh-cough was Covid coming to get me.
I never use Paint for anything except cropping pictures.

[Anonymous No.4542557]

>>4542550
Rubbish. He's the only one bragging all the time. My house is full of pottery and sculpture I've made. Not just shonky stuff either.
Not all of us want to go and on to try to prove to the internet had good we are. FFS, this is a literal Macedonian fingerpainting forum, why try to prove anything here? Who cares?

[Anonymous No.4542565]

>>4542557
>Not all of us want to go and on to try to prove to the internet had good we are.
>Tells me to post my work
>"Posting work is for faggots"
>"I'm way better but I don't have to post my work to prove it"
Post your work

[Anonymous No.4542576]

>>4542557
Also
>Art isn’t a contest
Shut up you fucking pussy

[Anonymous No.4542578]

>>4542565
>>4542576
Are you a bit schizo?

[Anonymous No.4542587]

>>4542578
Could be worse I could be retarded

[Anonymous No.4542597]

>>4542587
Well you're both, and a bit more besides.
I'm off to paint.

[Anonymous No.4542599]

>>4542576
If it is a contest you don't seem to be doing well for such a master. I only saw a couple small-town exhibitions when I looked you up.

>>4542526
"it isn't tough when most people here are literal beginners. Start bragging when you get some international shows

[Anonymous No.4542601]

[Anonymous No.4542608]

>>4542599
>Successful=Good
Mmmmmmm no

[Anonymous No.4542612]

>>4542597
>I’m off to paint
No you’re not

[Anonymous No.4542623]

>>4542601
This one is very charming, you chose a nice, balanced colour palette.

>>4542530
I think this one is a little weaker. I think it is how rigid and bland the shadows are. The other one is so organic and doesn't really have those shadows dragging it down.

[Anonymous No.4542638]

>>4542608
mmmm yes, if you want to consider yourself a professional that is.

You can be masterful and outside the system, but you will still be considered an amateur. Nothing wring with that, but you seem to take issue with people calling you an amateur.

[Anonymous No.4542650]

Still doin the loomis meme

[Anonymous No.4542658]

>>4542638
If being better than professional artists makes me an amateur because I don’t have as much money and fame as them, something tells me the system is the problem not me

[Anonymous No.4542676]

>>4542658
I never said that. Henry Darger and James Castle were way more interesting artistically than you, but they barely had a pile of dirt to push around.

[Anonymous No.4542707]

>>4542676
why are you comparing me to someone who draws like this!??! wtf is honestly wrong with you idiots

[Anonymous No.4542711]

>>4542707
if you look at that piece of shit and then this painting of mine and think somehow the two are at all related. Stop lumping me in with actual retards just because they also didn't make money. He didn't make money because he was shit. I didn't make money because everyone else is shit. There's a difference.

[Anonymous No.4542751]

>>4542711
If it werent locked down right now I could go a few miles away and see a few dozen second-year painting students' works hanging in the hallway that look just like this.

>>4542707
Now look at a deaf mute who only had soot and his own spit to work with and no artistic training. Somehow he is more creative and can depict scenes with more personality than you can.

[Anonymous No.4542758]

>>4542711
all of those paint strokes put down just for a subject to be sat there with their mouth hanging open and their eyes staring blankly like a fish eyeballing a lure

[Anonymous No.4542782]

There my frog friend, I used all the paper this time

[Anonymous No.4542786]

>>4542751
bullshit
>>4542758
ok

[Anonymous No.4542798]

>>4542782
Kinda blurry, but the musculature looks good

[Anonymous No.4542809]

>>4542782
learn how to take a picture before posting it everywhere FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.4542838]

>>4542612
I gave up. My painting was shit and I wiped it down.
Feel bad..Brian, you paint what you want.
We all suffer enough doing this, I won't go on any more. We're all fellow autismos here.

[Anonymous No.4542848]

can't say I'm happy with how this turned out, but I'm bored with it now.

[Anonymous No.4542864]

>>4542623
Thanks. As I worked on this one and the sun was setting I was really drawn to the shadows and how they stretched across the street. However, I see what you mean by ridged and bland. Thanks for the feed back.

[Anonymous No.4542930]

>>4542809
I wish I could use my scanner, but is too small, I'll post a better image later with my camera

[Anonymous No.4542932]

>>4542357
>>4542371
there appears to be a line that delineates between ankle and foot bending backward

[Anonymous No.4542934]

>>4542601
i can't tell what medium this is

[Anonymous No.4542942]

>>4542932
Maybe she's a mermaid?

[Anonymous No.4542943]

>>4542934
Gouache, I think

[Anonymous No.4542975]

>>4542526
>ceramics

yikes dude. Way to fly off the handle at me criticizing you for lack of faces or hands. Yeah I picked on your hands too because it's evident you can't paint them for shit, the hand I was criticizing looks like the type of fungus you find growing on a tree 10 feet off the ground, you know the type. The way you lashed out and got defensive for the rest of the thread shows it's not a style you picked-- it's a "style" you subconsciously leaned towards because it's easier for you to avoid the details you can't do. And maybe you need a woman in your life. Fuck international shows like the other dude suggest, show me something other than pottery. Any stone work? metal? wood? mixed media? I've been nice to you considering how mediocre your examples have been.

[Anonymous No.4542994]

>>4539756
>>4542308
>>4541932

ouch

[Anonymous No.4543033]

>>4542508
arms are short, head too big, left leg way too long, hands look too little

[Anonymous No.4543085]

>>4542975
I’m not entertaining you until you post your work. Threads full of me and none of you, just your essays

[Anonymous No.4543090]

>>4542975
I'll give you one post to post a hand better than this one or I'm done replying to you. If you can't that's fine, but stop shitting up the thread because you think it's cool you get to talk to a good artist on the internet. If you're just gonna keep "Look mom I posted it again"-ing may I suggest the beginner thread?

[Anonymous No.4543093]

>>4542975
also
>yikes
please remember to dilate

[Anonymous No.4543403]

if you want heads and hands then get your sister or mother to pose for him.
--
wet on wet continues to drive me insane.

[Anonymous No.4543461]

>>4543085
First time I'm posting a long response cause I felt the urge after you shit up the thread and then tried defending yourself in spasm posts and trash.

>>4543090
anyone with enough effort can post a better hand outline.

>>4543093
oof

[Anonymous No.4543466]

>>4542508
>>4542444

nice sausage links, glad you somewhat hit the mark with >>4543090 even though they're a little more hidden

[Anonymous No.4543569]

how do i learn to like drawing and painting

[Anonymous No.4543574]

Just finished this one, early morning New Jersey

[Anonymous No.4543579]

>>4543574
i cried because some ff7 theme came up right as i clicked

[Anonymous No.4543581]

>>4543579
I appreciate your critique

[Anonymous No.4543584]

>>4543581
my actual thoughts
i enjoy the transitions, the lighting, the foreground, the background
i don't like the blandness of the yellow middleground
it's like corn meal

[Anonymous No.4543598]

>>4539625
It's finally the weekend so I got a chance to open my sketchbook. Started laying down some important foundations/markers on the right hand. It's really a shame I lose interest and my attention span is shit, I think I could be a good artist if I could just focus and put effort into it.

[Anonymous No.4543600]

>>4543598
i'm glad you finished it
i hope your brain is impressionable
i know if i did that i would've learned nothing

[Anonymous No.4543603]

Finished a bobblehead nurse in ballpoint

[Anonymous No.4543610]

>>4543600
What do you mean? It isn't finished.

Regardless.

Yeah, it sure sounds like you couldn't learn anything. Going by your reading comprehension alone, and your willingness to insult my exercises/sketches it sounds like you have a long way to go. If you aren't learning something daily even from something like a sketchbook entry then you're delusional. We're all constantly learning. You aren't perfect and if you've posted in this thread I can safely say you aren't particularly great either. Everyone here has posted cookie cutter class studies at best.

[Anonymous No.4543613]

>>4543610
i didn't mean anything you think i meant

[Anonymous No.4543616]

>>4543613
No, I got it. Don't back out now. No matter how pointless you think another sketch of the same subject matter is, it isn't. I guarantee you if you do a run of the mill hand drawing right now, you would refine an aspect of your approach. Even if it would be unnoticeable to yourself. Say what you mean or convey yourself better if I missed your point.

[Anonymous No.4543946]

the problem i have with painting is the tediousness of mixing
i can't instantly transfer what i conceptualize into what i want to put onto paper and it frustrates me

[Anonymous No.4544130]

>>4543403
Is this oil? My recommendation is to slow down and take your time with shapes. Do a study beforehand so you know what your shapes will look like before you apply them. Wet on wet is great for welding shapes together but if your shapes are unclear it makes a mess.

[Anonymous No.4544670]

did a small warmup for today

[Anonymous No.4544724]

>>4544670
How small?

[Anonymous No.4544782]

>>4544724
16”x20”, this is the sketch I decided on painting today, had to redraw it though

[Anonymous No.4544806]

>>4540185
cute birb anon

[Anonymous No.4544825]

>>4541932
what is honestly the point of this? we never see a face, we never see the feet. it's just boobs floating in space, with a background that seems as an accessory. please think what you are trying to say through your art or what emotions you want to convey because as is, this is just a midsection with weird values / rendering

[Anonymous No.4544834]

>>4542386
I like it anon. Conveys emotion

[Anonymous No.4544837]

>>4542798
>>4542809
Better pic

[Anonymous No.4544839]

>>4540170
The mess is the fun part

[Anonymous No.4544842]

>>4542527
fuck off retard. I know exactly the photo after which this was traced after. You are no master of no discipline, let alone multiple. You shit up the board with your tasteless coomer trash 'art'. just go please, we don't need a pompous douche with his head up his ass

[Anonymous No.4544847]

>>4542711
you are the issue, not the world. your smartass attitude is why you are a failure. you mask your laziness with your perceived high intellect. lol

[Anonymous No.4544862]

>>4544847
Big words for a moron

[Anonymous No.4544863]

>>4544825
There's probably a niche of trad erotica out there not based on online selfies with filters and high saturations, but anon only has so much to work from.

[Anonymous No.4544876]

>>4544862
it is the truth, and you know it

>>4544863
don't lie brian, you're just a salty coomer fag

[Anonymous No.4544888]

>>4544876
Who's Brian? I can post my painting next week but it's not really that great either.

[Anonymous No.4544892]

>>4544862
it is the truth, and you know it

[Anonymous No.4544899]

>>4544888
I am sorry anon. Brian is the hack , the retard of /ic/, along with that jimmy guy or whatever the fuck he is. they are the abominations of this forum, hiding behind muh style and everybody else but them being too dumb to 'get' their ''''''''''art''''''''''.

Sorry for the mix-up, english is not my first language

[Anonymous No.4544933]

>>4544899
Rent free

[Anonymous No.4544977]

>>4544782

[Anonymous No.4544984]

>>4544899
That's unfortunate. I'll post my painting next week when I get to my other space. I don't have much experience with painting but I'm attempting to utilize zorn's palette (plus cadmium orange and quinacridone magenta) to push the saturations.

[Anonymous No.4545059]

>>4544977
working my way through this

[Anonymous No.4545131]

>>4545059
Keep going, the right hand needs more shadows I think

[Anonymous No.4545231]

>>4545059
finished it

[Anonymous No.4545244]

>>4545231
Maybe the hands are too small???

[Anonymous No.4545272]

>>4545244
They’re coming forward in perspective, they’re supposed to be that large

[Anonymous No.4545288]

>>4545272
Nah man, a chair doesnt have enough depth to foreshort in the way you attempting, nor is the rest of the chair or the table or vase giving that perceptiob, you also t4ied to make the same with her legs, but its not really that good, your sketch looked way better man

[Anonymous No.4545314]

>>4545288
here's them overlay on top of each other to see the differences. It would be awesome to have a projector so I didn't have to do everything by hand and sight measurements

[Anonymous No.4545454]

I really like how a few elements came out on this one like the most distant mountain and the water but the right side mountain I think is not great. Very challenging light with total overcast.

[Anonymous No.4545507]

>>4545454
try painting something with more specificity like a rock or a tree, you'll never get better if you just paint le epic mountain scene

[Anonymous No.4545520]

>>4543569
Don't. Find a new hobby.

[Anonymous No.4545522]

>>4543946
You rack disciprine

[Anonymous No.4545523]

>>4544834
Thanks. It didn't make it into my recent show unfortunately, but I got to go scan it today for a digital copy. Compression kind of ruins the dots in the low-res version though

[Anonymous No.4545536]

>>4545507
Any thoughts on these two?
>>4538257
>>4543574

I know a few things I’m avoiding like moving water and the types of chaotic forest scenes you’d get deep in the woods. I really like compositions with lots of layers of distance so I gravitate towards mountains. I’ve done some rolling hills and that sort of thing but I really like the expansive compositions

[Anonymous No.4545575]

>>4545231
The chair is weird

[Anonymous No.4545579]

>>4545454
Comfy

[Anonymous No.4545583]

>>4538257
ohh thats better, now its a rock

[Anonymous No.4545601]

[Anonymous No.4545605]

>>4545601

[Anonymous No.4545609]

>>4545601
>>4545605

[Anonymous No.4545634]

>>4545609
>>4545605
>>4545601

[Anonymous No.4545728]

>final art class of college is done by someone whose work you don't respect

[Anonymous No.4545782]

>>4545314
You have 2 options, you either shrink the hands or make the torso bigger...

[Anonymous No.4545902]

lmao watching zoom recordings of my painting professor as he gets more and more and more harsh with his criticisms

[Anonymous No.4546685]

>>4543610
>cookie cutter class studies
do you have a suggestion for how to get out of this phase?

[Anonymous No.4546688]

unfinished sketch

[Anonymous No.4546709]

>>4543598
>>4543610
Sorry man, but those hands couldnt even be counted as a cookie cutter class study.

Stopping crabing on everybody just because you didnt like what someone told you (and it clearly was a compliment dude, so this response ia even douchier).
Take ypur head out of your ass, your work and studies are not as high technically as you they are

[Anonymous No.4546720]

>>4534707
Stop making all these pointless generals you narcissistic idiot.

>>4539114
>>4539131
>>4543522

[Anonymous No.4546755]

>>4546720
The trad general was always a mainstay?

[Anonymous No.4546785]

>>4546720
The only one shitting up the board here is (you)

[Anonymous No.4547375]

>>4534707
Are there any good watercolour tutorials or do I just have to figure this out myself.

[Anonymous No.4547503]

>>4547375
Really liked this book.
But a lot of it comes down to practice and experience. You got to see for yourself how the water and paint behaves on your paper.

[Anonymous No.4547525]

>>4547503
Thanks, this in the artbook thread?

[Anonymous No.4547542]

>>4547525
Don't know, I bought a paper version that I took along with me as I went to life figure drawing sessions.

[Anonymous No.4547699]

redrew a drawing of an old friend of mine

[Anonymous No.4547951]

>>4542456
thanks anon! gonna try to burn through the cheap stuff I have since all the art stores are still closed around here. sorry to spam the same question, but do you have brands to reccomend?

[Anonymous No.4547991]

>>4542308
>>4542395
>>4542357
>>4542369
Fixed.
Normally I would charge a few hundred dollars for this type of paint over. But for you I did it for free. Hopefully you've learned something to help you with your future artistic endeavours!!

No need to thank me, I'm happy to help!

[Anonymous No.4548147]

>>4547991
I tried to save my reaction to your yikes ass paintover

[Anonymous No.4548149]

>>4547991
Nice mustache

[Anonymous No.4548171]

Anyways, transferring this drawing to a canvas

[Anonymous No.4548189]

>>4548147
someone give this man gold

[Anonymous No.4548190]

>>4548149
bruh why u boolin me?

[Anonymous No.4548242]

>>4548171

[Anonymous No.4548577]

Looks like I completely failed this one, sigh.

[Anonymous No.4548582]

>>4548577
are you retarded that looks awesome

[Anonymous No.4548606]

>>4548147
If I wanted to capture my reaction to your original post it would be a picture of my arsehole

[Anonymous No.4548607]

>>4548606
digital was a mistake, gtfo of the traditional thread you jackass

[Anonymous No.4548619]

>>4548607
Your original piece was a mistake (a mistake that I corrected)

[Anonymous No.4548632]

>>4548619
ok firez

[Anonymous No.4548821]

>>4541431
>>4541440
Oil pastels are literally my favourite medium. Can't explain why exactly. They're just a ton of fun.

[Anonymous No.4548842]

>>4546688
Overflowing with soul

[Anonymous No.4549324]

>>4542308
Beautiful, saved it in my art folder.

>>4547991
>Fixed
>>4548606
cringe

As I said:
>>4549245
>>4549301

[Anonymous No.4550197]

>>4548842
thanks man

[Anonymous No.4550263]

>>4548606
>digital
>/trad/ general
????

[Anonymous No.4550349]

>>4542444
>>4542508

damn bro this is solid

>>4542601
charming

[Anonymous No.4550813]

>>4536265
I like this a lot.

[Anonymous No.4550863]

>>4537140
I love it. Would you care to share your reference? You really insinuate the volume of this woman's form has.

[Anonymous No.4551116]

I found out an old set of oil paint, how can I use them? Any books that teaches would painting?

[Anonymous No.4551122]

>>4551116
Teaches oil painting"

[Anonymous No.4551130]

>>4548242
fixed

[Anonymous No.4551141]

>>4551130
Wrong thread

[Anonymous No.4551145]

>>4551141
wdym?

[Anonymous No.4551151]

>>4551145
Repaint the face in oil if you really want to prove a point

[Anonymous No.4551171]

Tried to paint without line. Gone FFFUUUUUUUuuuu... when missclicked right eye.

[Anonymous No.4551195]

>>4551171
Crickey, that's a big spider.

[Anonymous No.4551196]

>>4551151
I dont have oil so I'm just helping with digital citiques lol

[Anonymous No.4551225]

>>4551196
Digital =\= Oil
Not helpful in the slightest. If you’d ever oil painted you’d know that. Gtfo of this thread

[Anonymous No.4551262]

>>4551225
The changes I make are applicable to traditional.

[Anonymous No.4551280]

>>4551262
You’re a fucking retard

[Anonymous No.4551303]

>>4551280
not an arguement

[Anonymous No.4551395]

>>4551303
way to waste half this thread with your pointless crabbing

[Anonymous No.4551461]

>>4551225
You aren't really good enough to be such an elitist.

[Anonymous No.4551473]

I don’t love how this came out but it was fun to paint and a challenging composition with nasty head on lighting.

[Anonymous No.4551843]

>>4551116
My advice? Find a simple Bob Ross episode and just follow along with him. Make sure you have the brushes and such first, but even then you do you. No wrong answers, just happy accidents.

[Anonymous No.4552505]

>>4551843
This is how I learned oil too. He even has a 1 hour special designed for beginners and his son Steve is also a great teacher and has done some videos for The Joy of Painting. He’s great for learning to relax and let go.

[Anonymous No.4553719]

>>4545601
>>4545605
>>4545609
>>4545634

No one ever says anything about my art, critique my shit dammit!

[Anonymous No.4553729]

>>4553719
And then I post the picture horizontally by accident. I'm a fuckin mess.

[Anonymous No.4554067]

>>4551225
regardless of the medium he does have a point, his digital fix is better than that swollen mess of a face

[Anonymous No.4554079]

>>4546709
lol you're projecting too much, since most of my replies were with a picture on purpose. So you would know it's me. That also was my only long-ish reply. I don't know what you mean by crabbing but i kinda have a feeling you're doing that now? you're right i can't be counted as a class study because it's in a sketchbook and not on large format newsprint

[Anonymous No.4554082]

>>4553719
>>4553729

what is there to critique?

[Anonymous No.4554086]

>>4546685
find your style and groove, go from there. Don't look at me though-- still haven't found it.

[Anonymous No.4554089]

>>4547991
Yovanna Ventura?