PICTURES/TIPS THAT IMPROVED YOU

[Anonymous No.4531465]

ITT: post things like infographics, tutorials, etc. that have legitimately helped you

pic related, drawing arms is so much easier now

[Anonymous No.4531466]

What book is this from?

[Anonymous No.4531467]

>>4531466
chinese electric loomis

[Anonymous No.4531480]

>>4531467
This looks much better than that loomis crap.

[Anonymous No.4531491]

>>4531480
NOOOOOO MY HECKIN LOOMERINO
NO ONE COULD POSSIBLY TEACH ART BETTER THAN SOME RANDOM GUY FROM 70 YEARS AGO WHOSE BOOKS WENT OUT OF PRINT

[Anonymous No.4531493]

>>4531465
That’s just Bridgman with better line quality

[Anonymous No.4531526]

>>4531465
draw your own face, hands, etc.

[Anonymous No.4531527]

>>4531465
literally anything from mangamaterials
also she made a yt channel and she sounds super cute, i'm in love

[Anonymous No.4531539]

>>4531480
it's actually chinese bridgman

bridgman is this but without the moonrunes

[Anonymous No.4531553]

Drawing sequence
1. Torso
2. Legs
3. Arms
4. Head
Probably helped me more than anything

[Anonymous No.4531556]

>>4531465
You know what? These drawings look good compared to all the shilled garbage books here. You can really see that the artist cared about the line quality to make his message and intentions as clear as possible. Unlike the gestures garbage and we wuz messy genius garbage in you-know-what books

[Anonymous No.4531569]

>>4531527
Bout to simp for her maybe i will see some of that anatomy

[Anonymous No.4531577]

>>4531556
only one that pushes messy gesture is vilppu

[Anonymous No.4531591]

>>4531466
Looks like Bridgman

[Anonymous No.4531592]

>>4531556
it's a shitty, chinky bridgman. find a bridgman or vanderpoel book and open it.

[Anonymous No.4531595]

>>4531591
uh you uncultured rooster it's Burijumannō

[Anonymous No.4531641]

>>4531526
This.
Especially hands

[Anonymous No.4531663]

>>4531553
Shit gonna try this now. It makes absolute sense. bead/eyes first was always pounded into me. Even reading this makes me feel enlightened.

[Anonymous No.4531709]

>>4531553
Based Hogarth Chad

[Anonymous No.4531744]

>>4531491

I don’t care if people dont like Loomis but WHY the FUCK do faggots keep mentioning he went out of print? Do you tiresome little fuckerinos have any ideo how many fucking amazing books are out of print?
You’re like boomers who wont believe anytging until you see it on the MSM.
To this day one of the greatest landscape painting books of all time - “Gruppe on Color” remains out of print and regularly goes for $200+ online.
How about that animation backgrounds book that goes for $700?
In fact I have a folder full of fucking awesome books that I downloaded from Archive.org that kick fucking ass and are all out of print.

God how I loathe the people here.
Why cant good fucking artists with good fucking brains hang out here?

[Anonymous No.4531748]

>>4531465
No seriously champ, what book? Link the pdf.

[Anonymous No.4531753]

>>4531744
Where is the /pol/ of art (without yhe raids and shills)?

[Anonymous No.4531759]

>>4531493
Yeah, not scribbled on a wall by an alcoholic. Hence it’s actually useful.

[Anonymous No.4531787]

>>4531465
This unironically taught me how to cross-hatch to define forms

[Anonymous No.4531791]

[Anonymous No.4531801]

[Anonymous No.4531836]

>>4531527
This tb,h desu

I like to study pic related a couple of minutes per day. Also the Mega pdf file is very helpful.

[Anonymous No.4531842]

>>4531592
Vanderpoel is a different approach and Bridgman is a mannered mess of bad, early-fax-machine-quality scribbles.
OP’s pic is very clear.

[Anonymous No.4531846]

>>4531465
Krenzu-samas Construction method has always been interesting to me.

[Anonymous No.4531850]

>>4531465
I need this. Pls link source.

[Anonymous No.4531852]

1/2

[Anonymous No.4531853]

2/2

[Anonymous No.4531861]

>>4531663
>>4531709
Hogarth is the ultimate art chad

[Anonymous No.4531863]

>>4531842
The drawings in op's book are imprecise and shitty compared to the names I mentioned. You don't need the "clarity" to understand the lines.

[Anonymous No.4531877]

>>4531663
It’s pounded into everyone for no real reason. The position of the head has the least effect on the body’s position.

[Anonymous No.4531904]

>>4531863
Yeah um sweetie, Bridgman is notorious for being unclear unless you already know anatomy - or I wouldnt have said what I said.
Fuck off poser.

[Anonymous No.4531961]

I feel like I’m shilling for RBH every other month or so, but his lectures are really detailed in terms of all the moving parts of the body, and he gives great examples of moved parts and landmarks

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8xLVXeizNi8

[Anonymous No.4531972]

>>4531465
For those who care OP’s pic is from a book that apparently translates:

> The basics of human modeling-partial anatomy of the human body-Shuimubai Art Square-Guiyang studio art training for college entrance examination

https://huaban.com/from/jzbtsg.blog.163.com/

Maybe some bilingual or turbo-autist can find a scan of the whole thing?

[Anonymous No.4531983]

>>4531904
lol at trying to act tough on here, "poser" hahahah

>>4531972
it's been posted here before, it's not really that great of a book. search for 人体造型基础.pdf. idiots seem something that's asian and think it's better. most of the drawings are very ugly or ape from other western books that do it better which we tell anons to read but they refuse.

[Anonymous No.4532010]

>>4531983
Well Asians do get paid to art, so...yes it is better.

[Anonymous No.4532013]

>>4532010
I didn't realize people don't get paid to do art in the rest of the world

[Anonymous No.4532026]

>>4531526
>>4531641
But my dick is always in my hands for some reason.

[Anonymous No.4532036]

>>4532013
Isn't the funding level for the National Endowment for the Arts set at 160M annually? That's the same amount it was at during the 1980's, with no adjustment for inflation.

[Anonymous No.4532039]

>>4531983
>人体造型基础.pdf
Thanks.
Yes the book I found using that as a search is indeed ugly and brings nothing new. There are a number of similar books floating around (often on vk.com)
But its not the same as OP.
As to your point, sometimes the Asian and Russian books are VERY helpful because the gommunist schools don’t dick around. If something in the West is good but unclear they will make it clearer for their own students. This sometimes but not always results in improvements.

[Anonymous No.4532040]

>>4531465
oh nice! a more comprehensive bridgman, if it was translated i think it would be an extremely useful resource

[Anonymous No.4532044]

>>4531836
moe to human

[Anonymous No.4532054]

>>4532039
>But its not the same as OP.
yes, it literally is. this is page 20

>As to your point, sometimes the Asian and Russian books are VERY helpful because the gommunist schools don’t dick around
i've never found this to be the case. the russians love shilling their shit like mogilevtsev.

aside from the russian academic method, everything tends to be a worse and watered down version of something western that people are too impatient to read from the source.

[Anonymous No.4532056]

>>4532036
Mapplethorpe is to blame for the lack of funding for the arts in the us.

[Anonymous No.4532090]

>>4532054
>yes, it literally is. this is page 20
Gah. Not the one I found. (Pic related)
Please have compassion and provide a link

I appreciate your critique of Some people but some of us know what we’re doing by nosing aroujd the foreign books.

[Anonymous No.4532099]

>>4531836
Do you have a link to the pdf? Tried google and the artbook thread but I couldn't find it anywhere.

[Anonymous No.4532107]

>>4532054
>>4532090

>mogilevtsev

Agreed Im not sure what his books are supposed to do. They dont give enough information to be useful at all.

I have 2 Chinese books that I like that I found on VK a couple of years ago (and theres a bunch of soviet era books, all useful if youre interested in the russian system).
One of them is Bridgman again but Chinese communist poster style. Not hugely better interms of repro quality but interesting.
The other one has Bridgeman and Bammes and assorted realistic anatomy shots side by side, body part by body part. It doesnt reinterpret or clarify the drawings but its handy for its organization and easy comparison.

[Anonymous No.4532122]

>>4532099
Sorry I didn't keep the thread bookmarked where I found it in. It was a mega link of some kind so you could try searching "manga materials" and "mega" in the archives. It's like 1,000 plus pages so it would be worth the time

https://boards.fireden.net/ic

[Anonymous No.4532140]

>>4532122
Damn, I found the post (I think) but the link is dead. Thanks anyway though.

[Anonymous No.4532150]

>>4532140
Wait nevermind, here you go fa.m.
You just have to scroll down a little

https://mega.nz/folder/T9VGmSDC#h0S-tabCpSPlC4DqaJHPmw

[Anonymous No.4532162]

Richer

[Anonymous No.4532174]

>>4532054
Can you at least post the cover?
Is it pic related?

[Anonymous No.4532183]

>>4532174
my version doesn't have a cover but that looks like it based on the drawing of the woman

[Anonymous No.4532187]

>>4531744
It's not the fact it went out of print, it's why it did: Bridgman, his master, was vastly preferred.
It's also mentioned because newfags act like Loomeme is a sacred bible everyone has always lived by when truth is it was completely forgotten before p2p file sharing became a thing and it spread, because it was free, not because it was good.

Bridgman and How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way are the books most pre-internet pros learned from.

[Anonymous No.4532191]

>>4531904
Bridgman is the ngmi test. If you can't understand it I got bad news for you.

[Anonymous No.4532211]

>>4532187
All false and speculative.
My highschool art teacher (it was an art-specialist high school) was a Rockwell-tier WW2 artist (yes he worked, he didn't teach until retirement) and he taught from his books thsi was back in the late 80’s. He actually sat me down and showed me what he wanted me to make an effort to absorb from Creative Illustration - which btw was the most used loomis book Not the others. It’s amazing to this day.

Bridgman wasnt vastly preferred -by working illustrators - who had to train us kids and rookies, In the pre-internet era. you’re making that up.

[Anonymous No.4532212]

>>4531527
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shgXNMIriaE

[Anonymous No.4532268]

>>4532183
C’mon mang. Bro. Can’t you just MEGA that shit? Even for just a day?

[Anonymous No.4532308]

>>4531527
...she?

[Anonymous No.4532379]

>>4532090
mfw i recognize the heads are stolen from hogarth

[Anonymous No.4533193]

>>4532150
Oh shit nice, thanks anon!

[Anonymous No.4533389]

>>4531553
>tfw always intuitively started with collar bones&pecs
feels good to be a natural gmi

[Anonymous No.4533432]

>>4531465
Fuck those pictures are really good. Better than that crap that all these crabs and people who hate drawing post here

[Anonymous No.4533680]

>>4531846
Does he have any instructional tutorials on construction or is it just stuff you have to watch from stream?

[Anonymous No.4533763]

>>4532268
it's at the very bottom of this >>4532150

[Anonymous No.4533783]

>>4532212
HOLY FUCK WHY DOES SHE SOUND SO CUTE. im ngmi

[Anonymous No.4533831]

There is a tutorial on posing and turning stuff on perspective that is really good? its on cg peers.
but a proper construction tutorial not that I know of no.

[Anonymous No.4533840]

>>4533763
Haha, you magnificent artbeast! Thank you a million times.

[Anonymous No.4533867]

>>4532308
Yes anon, females can be good at art. This isn't manga materials btw, but she did do a voice reveal on her youtube channel

[Anonymous No.4533971]

>>4533867
wdym this isn't manga materials?

[Anonymous No.4533999]

This helped me understand where I am with my drawing and where I can go next.

[Anonymous No.4534018]

>>4531465

Here's a tip
Use the magnetic lasso tool. I felt hopeless since it's next to impossible to color on top of the lines accurately. Pen tool is too frustrating since it can't really get essence of the edge. This lovechild of the lasso tool and pen tool made me happy in colouring. It's fun now!

[Anonymous No.4534024]

having someone edit or redline my work always helps me improve too bad nobody fucking critiques on the artwork/critique board :))) (fuck you niggers)

[Anonymous No.4534030]

>>4534024

Don’t have the capacity to redline but I do usually try to help out beginners if I am able

[Anonymous No.4534172]

>>4533971
he means mangamaterials, the channel they were talking about earlier, did not draw the image he just posted
work on your reading comprehension bro

[Anonymous No.4534586]

>>4534172
>''this isn't manga materials btw''
>''pic related''
i get it now

[Anonymous No.4534810]

>>4532162
searching the book thread FAST

[Anonymous No.4534918]

>>4531527
>>4533867
how the fuck am i supposed to learn anatomy when i have to pause every few seconds because i cant handle her hot voice

[Anonymous No.4534922]

>>4534918
Mute the audio?

[Anonymous No.4535102]

>>4531527
Before you start wondering:
内 - inside
外 - outside
and I don't think you need any other translation for this

[Anonymous No.4535454]

Fingers are wedge shaped. Start with the middle and then orient the rest of them around it.

[Anonymous No.4535480]

>>4531553
Could I go Head before Arms or am I just thinking about this too autistically?

[Anonymous No.4535485]

>>4531465
OP's pic is bridgman but in japanese

[Anonymous No.4535497]

>>4531527

Im so glad Tumblr didnt drive her off the internet for good. Fuck those bitches, making her delete her English account.

[Anonymous No.4535506]

>>4535497
Story?

[Anonymous No.4535510]

>>4535506
"Muh style" artists that refuse to study anatomy got mad at her for teaching proper anatomy

[Anonymous No.4535518]

>>4535510
sjw's ruin everything

[Anonymous No.4535521]

>>4535510
but I thought everyone knew the general rule is to learn anatomy first and then start making shit look cartoony

[Anonymous No.4535530]

>>4535521
Apparently not.

[Anonymous No.4535819]

>>4533831
What's that tutorial? The turning stuff on perpective

[Anonymous No.4535860]

Behold! The secret to drawing anime heads roomisu style

[Anonymous No.4536030]

>>4531527
remember when this shit was in english?

[Anonymous No.4536119]

>>4536030
They still exist

[Anonymous No.4536158]

>>4534918
>>4533783
She sounds like every other female nip i've ever heard.

[Anonymous No.4536214]

>>4531553
I go up to down. Head, torso, arms and legs

[Anonymous No.4536258]

>>4535497
>>4535506
>>4535510
ahem, actually it was because she made a tutorial on twitter on how to properly draw lines and avoid chicken scratches. just a few people (2-3 persons) got triggered by it and went into a rude dispute with her. She started loosing it because of it, and people started witch hunting these guys. Then the boyfriend of one of the persons started threatening MM because his gf was receiving death threats. And then MM deleted her acc. She had something like hypersensitivity and that's why she didn't handle the situation well.

[Anonymous No.4536290]

>>4535860
no thank you

[Anonymous No.4536694]

>>4531553
Why didn't I think of this earlier. I always do head first and it always messes me up trying to draw torsos from heads.
It literally makes tons of sense to draw the biggest body parts first,

[Anonymous No.4537687]

>>4536290
It's a genuinely good simplification.

[Anonymous No.4537713]

>>4535521
It isn't tho.
You can learn to draw funny animals, and never draw anything but funny animals, and make the most awesome funny animals art ever. You don't need to do anything in any order with art. Everything you learn stacks with what you already know and the only thing that really drastically improves every other fundamental immediately upon understanding it is perspective.

[Anonymous No.4537821]

>>4535819
sorry anon, i meant to reply to the post asking if krenz had a contruction tutorial. The torrent is called Gumroad - Bundle by Krenz Cushart in CGpeers.

[Anonymous No.4538579]

>>4536258
wait, which one was hypersensitive again

[Anonymous No.4538749]

>>4538579
MM

[Anonymous No.4539785]

>>4531787
I have always hated jojo's designs

[Anonymous No.4541108]

>>4539785
Bad taste spotted.

[Anonymous No.4541266]

>>4535102
i already struggle at recognizing the symbols, can't imagine what it's like learning japanese. I can speak 3 languages, but i've been slowly practicing them from early childhood

[Anonymous No.4541332]

>>4531787
Is that Bazerk?

[Anonymous No.4541336]

>>4536258
Was she harassed and threatened by White faggots or Jap faggots? Doesn’t seem hypersensitive to me. It just sounds like translating and presenting her work for fucking tards ceased being worth the effort.

[Anonymous No.4542899]

>>4536119
where

[Anonymous No.4542905]

>>4542899
In her patreon

[Anonymous No.4543010]

>>4533999
holy fuck, thank you so much. I feel like I dont have a plan or focus and I havent been making much progress for a while now, a breakdown and plan like this gives me some god damn focus and planning.

[Anonymous No.4544054]

>>4541336
It was one french ngmi bitch and a US guy who has nothing to do with art, and another random guy. her translator stated she did have hypersensitivity of some kind, which is the reason why she couldn't just ignore and block those guys. it was only 3 negative people out of the other hundreds who were very supportive towards her.

[Anonymous No.4544062]

>>4535480
Yeah that’s a somewhat autistic consideration.

[Anonymous No.4544075]

>>4531527
where is her yt channel?

[Anonymous No.4544080]

[Anonymous No.4544093]

>>4533999
still have no idea where i'm at. also drawing isn't an rpg with skill points

[Anonymous No.4544094]

>>4544075
Have you tried typing "manga materials" on youtube's search bar?

[Anonymous No.4544102]

>>4544093
>he doesn't have a character sheet to check how many points he's got in each category
so the npc meme is real, huh?

[Anonymous No.4544324]

>>4532040
just so you guys know, the google translation for this book is pretty accurate. Just use the image translation below
https://translateimages.site/

[Anonymous No.4544360]

>>4532187
>Bridgman and How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way are the books most pre-internet pros learned from
why would you say something like this when the famous artists course existed

[Anonymous No.4544415]

>>4532211
>you’re wrong
>let me give you some anecdotal evidence
Cringe