Crab Motivation Thread

[Anonymous No.4517838]

ITT: Post things to motivate gigacrabs like me to crank out that pen & paper and fuckking draw something!

[Anonymous No.4517840]

>>4517838

[Anonymous No.4517843]

>>4517840
thats one of the most demotivating things you could post

[Anonymous No.4517845]

>>4517838
I don't even understand what you mean. You can be a crab and also a good artist who draws a lot.

[Anonymous No.4517848]

>>4517838

[Anonymous No.4517854]

>>4517848
Thanks, I think this might work.

[Anonymous No.4517866]

>>4517838
If you want girls to like you more than those orbiters who hang around them, you gotta meet her expectations.

[Anonymous No.4517875]

>>4517840
if the right one is the older one, they knew how clothe stretched over breasts but then forgot in their newer left one. They traded structure for stylistic tricks

[Anonymous No.4517881]

>>4517840
How is this talentfag supposed to motivate me?

[Anonymous No.4518073]

>>4517838
Does "crab" mean "person who criticizes"?

[Anonymous No.4518090]

>>4518073
It's a dunning Kruger who shits on everything to overcompensate for their lack of skill and success. Sometimes they are correct but never due to their own competence, it's just when all you do is throw darts at a wall you are bound to hit a target.

[Anonymous No.4518117]

>>4517854
OK, I made this. Thoughts?

>>4518090
I thought "crab" just meant lazy.

[Anonymous No.4518129]

>>4518090
Seems like a cope to help shitty artists dismiss criticism desu

[Anonymous No.4518141]

>>4517875
If it's deliberate, I don't see what's wrong with what you're saying

[Anonymous No.4518142]

>>4517838
Just think that no matter how bad you draw, at least you'r not the fucking gains goblin.

[Anonymous No.4518149]

>>4517848
based

[Anonymous No.4518156]

>>4518129
all crabs criticize but not every criticism is from a crab

>>4518117
There is a big overlap with lazy artists and crabs but they aren't the same.

[Anonymous No.4518158]

>>4518117
You need to do more Bargue drawings, mate. Basically learning how to copy accurately.
The girl’s right leg (our left) is at a slightly different angle than the reference photo. There’s probably more mistakes but that’s the one that stood out to me when I first looked at it.

[Anonymous No.4518172]

>>4518117
Hi Anon, from the thumbnail I could eyeball that your proportions aren't too bad, but on closer inspection the head is way too big. Use the width and height of the head to measure your proportions before you start putting detail on. Hope that helps.

[Anonymous No.4518174]

>>4518117
0/10 The whole body is clearly too much for you. Master individual parts first. Because every single part is wrong in the following departments:
>proportion
>perspective
>planes
>volume
>angles
>the overall figure
>orientation
Crop the fucking head and start drawing from zero. Download Krita and measure the head's angles and distances so you can accurately AND CONSCIOUSLY replicate those

[Anonymous No.4518181]

>>4518174
Not OP/guy you're quoting but why Krita?

[Anonymous No.4518197]

>>4518172
He’s too new to focus on proportion at this stage. He needs to be able to copy accurately which implies getting better at observing a model (noticing subtle changes that non-artists wouldn’t notice) as well as mechanical skill (being able to draw straight lines/ellipses/ect intuitively).
>>4518174
Yes, this so much.
A lot of people rush into figure drawing and try to learn the whole body but you’re better off just doing a part of the body instead. An arm, a hand, a foot. Tackling the whole body is only going to make you frustrated.
Also, Krita?
I’m a tradfag but when I tried Digital, I found PaintToolSai to be the most user friendly.

[Anonymous No.4518212]

>>4518181
>>4518197
Krita is the only free software that includes a measure tool. This measure tool allows you to measure angle (in grades) and distance (either in pixels or centimeters/inches)

[Anonymous No.4518217]

>>4518212
>measure tool
Isn’t that sort of like a crutch. I think you should be able to eye it and get it wrong a bunch of times before you get it right but if it works for you then I guess I can’t argue.

[Anonymous No.4518219]

>>4518156
how can you tell whether criticism comes from a crab?

[Anonymous No.4518273]

>>4518219
Sad thing is, as a noob you can't. Which is why you should get some education from books so you can make up your own mind about stuff and evaluate critiques better

[Anonymous No.4518339]

>>4518217
no rules, just tools

[Anonymous No.4518353]

>>4518219
crabs usually never back up what they say by any other master or teacher. If quality criticism is put into question, it is quickly referenced to something taught in a book or something said by a teacher or master.

[Anonymous No.4518357]

>>4518172
He need to copy more.
This isn’t really a red-line, it’s just showing areas where you need to analyze and correct.
But I think you should do Bargue drawings since they’re much more simpler.

[Anonymous No.4518358]

>>4518353
Really?
Because I made a thread a few years ago quoting Robert Beverly Hale who says, “You cannot draw unless you can draw from imagination.”
All I got was ‘pyw’ despite the fact that isn’t wasn’t my quote.

[Anonymous No.4518374]

>>4518358

I don't get what you are saying, are you saying you are a crab and you posted a quote from a teacher? Not only do crabs not back up their criticism with anything from teachers but they are always against any teacher that is brought up that goes against what ever they are saying. Which is exactly what happened with what you are saying

[Anonymous No.4518481]

>>4518374
>This is an imaginary drawing, unlike the preceding drawing by Boucher. Now, I am not telling you to avoid drawing from models; you must, and frequently. I am trying to impress upon you the fact that you can never draw the model with real skill – with anything approaching the skill of the artists in this book – unless you can create figure drawings out of your imagination.
> - Robert Beverly Hale (Drawing Lessons from the Great Masters)
But this wasn’t enough. Somehow I needed to post my work to prove that RBH was worth listening to which basically turned ‘pyw’ into a meme for me.

[Anonymous No.4518488]

>>4518481
Yes crabs don't acknowledge any type of teacher unless they are comparing them together

[Anonymous No.4518510]

>>4517840
Right looks better tho

[Anonymous No.4519031]

>>4517838
Shit posting kills your art gains.

[Anonymous No.4519610]

>>4518158
>>4518357
How do you even do Bargue drawings? I just looked into that and it looks like you need special equipment for that.

[Anonymous No.4519697]

>>4518217
most people use sight-size when doing what you're describing, which is just using the ruler in your head. it's a big crutch as well.

some people start with some construction while doing a masterstudy but then they just devolve into sight-sizing everything. I think the only professional I've seen use comparative measuring and construction only was jeff watts.

[Anonymous No.4519762]

>>4519610
Atelier educated artists will print out individual copies of the Bargue plates and place them so that they're sight-sizing them onto another sheet of paper. That's a way too specific mode of training IMO, you can just copy them like you would any other reference. Read the instructions, they even give you some axes drawn in. Do them in order (the first plate is the one with the eyes).

[Anonymous No.4519855]

>>4517866
Elaborate, please

[Anonymous No.4519921]

>>4519762
How is this

[Anonymous No.4520012]

>>4519921
where to dwonolaod barg

[Anonymous No.4520017]

>>4517838
"Draw Antonio, draw Antonio, draw and don’t waste time"

[Anonymous No.4520058]

>>4520012
should be in here >>4488155
>>4519921
(123: columns, letters top to bottom rows)

A1: you enlarged the eye a lot in comparison to the browbone
A2: same, you can selfcheck if you look at the lower left quadrant, see how far away your eye's waterline is from the axis?
A3: it looks good, just a bit contorted and I can't tell if it's because it was tilted when you took the photo, or if the reference was tilted when you were drawing.
B3: You've given the browbone a huge arch, in the original it's small a parallelogram
C3: lol why is it so huge. Check the lower quadrants against the plumb line.

...and so forth. Check yourself by putting your drawing pic and the plate in the same folder and flip back and forth, and try to copy the whole page is if it were one thing, it'll make it easier. It's a good start, and I'm glad someone in this godforsaken place is doing it.

Btw the reason why tilted drawing surfaces are recommended is not because it's ergonomic but because when you look at the paper perpendicularly you get the least amount of distortion. Just checked on yt, there are actually a handful of videos on "bargue copy".

[Anonymous No.4520244]

>>4520058
>should be in here >>4488155
Nothing's is in that thread about it, but you could easily find the book on libgen.