#Zero2BBCChan Challenge: Day 1

[Anonymous No.4498000]

Inspired by this thread >>4495129

I don't think it can be done in 3 months. I'm using the hashtags #Zero2BBCChan and #Day[Number] to track. I chose hashtags so anyone can participate and follow along without having to shill socials directly.

[Anonymous No.4498006]

what is this cancer ass thread

[Anonymous No.4498011]

>>4498000
It would have been a good idea to explain what you're talking about im the OP
>links to other thread
tl;dr

[Anonymous No.4498030]

>>4498000
The sheer arrogance to think that you can go from 0 to that in three months. You got trips though so who knows.

[Anonymous No.4498040]

it took HIM 10 years lmao

[Anonymous No.4498044]

You are simply adorable.

[Anonymous No.4498050]

>>4498000
Get a job man

[Anonymous No.4498082]

>>4498030
>>4498040
>>4498044
>>4498050

You guy's aren't giving him enough credit! If he draws nothing but this one picture for 3 months, I'm sure he'll eventually be able to reproduce it at this quality!

[Anonymous No.4498083]

>>4498000
You're not gonna make it in 1 year, nor 3 years, nor 5 years, let alone 3 months.

[Anonymous No.4498110]

>>4498000
>shilling a, at best average coom artist.
please go outside

[Anonymous No.4498118]

>>4498000
Why do you want to draw like an absolute cumbrain?

[Anonymous No.4498121]

>>4498110
pyw

>>4498000
i doubt you but those trips scare me

[Anonymous No.4498229]

>>4498000
Good choice of inspiration, anon.
I hope you find success through disciplined and consistent practice.
I think BBC-Chan posts here occasionally. Maybe he'll give you some pointers.

[Anonymous No.4498236]

>>4498000
Not bad, don’t listen to the crabs. If you DO keep up at 18h daily, you’ll make insane leaps in progress that will make all the retards crabbing at you wanna kill themselves.

[Anonymous No.4498245]

>>4498000
how can I reach BBCchan level? look at that face and body the proportions are beautiful, my drawings look like trash

[Anonymous No.4498250]

>>4498000
I don't understand these things, seriously.

You want to like to draw, to be able to draw for years and years until you die, what does it matter if you get good in 5 years compared to 7, 9, 12? you'll still be drawing until you die and you'll eventually peak somewhere along the way, and then after it you'll only get 0.001% better over the years...

you see artists like vilppu, feng zhu, krenz, do you think they cared about "making it quickly"? nah, they just drew, learned and over time they got there.

not discouraging you, but I think these kinds of things are stupid af

[Anonymous No.4498293]

>>4498250
I'm afraid you have a case of mediocreitis, also known as NGMI. There's unfortunately no known cure, except hoping the disorder goes away on its own. Godspeed.

[Anonymous No.4498294]

>>4498293
fuck off OP

[Anonymous No.4498315]

>>4498000
You'd probably get massive burnout after this.

[Anonymous No.4498323]

>>4498250
Not him but don't you want to be a great artist while you're young? I would be bummed out if I weren't good by the age of 40.

[Anonymous No.4498324]

>>4498294
I'm not op mate, I think he's retarded for giving himself an unrealistic goal. I just hate normies like you who have no perspective and throw names like Feng Zhu around who encourages students to work 6-12 hours a day to make it quicker.

[Anonymous No.4498343]

>>4498000
Something tells me OP isn’t drawing right now, and has already given up

[Anonymous No.4498354]

>>4498250
Because the sooner you learn it, the sooner you’re able to monetize it and self-sustain through it.

Also, it’s funny you mention Feng, as his entire schooling method is based around intense work 12h a day to cram years of work into 1 year.

[Anonymous No.4498367]

>>4498354
even studying for a year at Autist High under Feng Zhu himself personally and drawing for approximately 18 hours a day for a year hasn't produced leaps like what OP wants to achieve

[Anonymous No.4498373]

>>4498367
Op is just shitpostan

[Anonymous No.4498374]

>>4498000
https://youtu.be/GJz66wm95-M?t=309
literally this video. You don't know anything about what you're going into so you think that there isn't much material.

[Anonymous No.4498379]

>>4498343
Will OP make it? Will OP even post a #Day2? Is OP even drawing right now? Has OP already given up before it even began? Find out the answers to these burning questions and more tomorrow on #Zero2BBCChan!

[Anonymous No.4498381]

>>4498367
People under Feng’s tutelage make strides very quickly. BBC-chan is nowhere near the level of artists taught by Feng himself, given the portfolios we see upon their graduation. You have to keep in mind that BBC-chan’s scope of skill is very narrow. He only draws figures, mostly females, and mostly naked. No real design skills, not much in terms of scenery or background, his painting skills are rather limited... etc... not to undersell him, he’s very skilled, but like Ilya who also specializes in perfecting a narrow skill, neither really compare to industry pros who require a broad range of artistic skills. Environments, machinery, figures, design, etc...

Learning to draw pinup figures in 3D space is definitely doable within 3 months, maybe not to BBC-chan’s level, but if he applies himself properly, and learns correctly (ie follows a rigid and accurate learning plan), he can probably get halfway there in 3 months, and maybe even all the way in 6. It’s BBC-chan’s narrow range of skills that make it possible. If it was someone more skilled, like say Murata, KJG, Feng, Ruan Jia, etc... then I’d tell him he’s insane. But porn illustration is pretty low hanging fruit, it’s definitely not impossible to get there fast.

[Anonymous No.4498403]

>>4498381
pyw

[Anonymous No.4498417]

>>4498403

[Anonymous No.4498424]

>>4498417
haha mister Zhu Feng it really is you browsing four chins???

post your actual work

[Anonymous No.4498429]

>>4498424
Ahhh, ok ok, you caught me.

[Anonymous No.4498434]

>>4498000
jesus.. bbc isnt bad but aim higher holy shit

[Anonymous No.4499216]

>>4498030
"that" doesn't look that hard.

[Anonymous No.4499233]

>>4498434
He wants to get there in 3 months, which is a short amount of time. He can aim higher once he does. If he even does.

[Anonymous No.4499297]

>>4498000
BBC here.
Anon, I 100% approve this. The only advice I'd like to give you is to just keep going no matter what the outcome of this will be.
#justdraw

[Anonymous No.4499318]

>>4498381
Nah. No chance anyone would get to my current skill from 0 (I repeat, zero) in 6 months.
Absolutely no chance.
Mind, I don't consider my skill to be amazing or anything. I am just experienced and can draw from imagination because of that experience (strong visual library and understanding of perspective). It's impossible to reach that in 6 months, not from 0. Unless you are some kind of savant.

I agree with everything else you said btw.

[Anonymous No.4499322]

>>4498429
> 0F443C61-ECC4-4291-889F-D(...).jpg

i love eternal begfags that can't post a doodle to save their life

[Anonymous No.4499332]

>>4498000
no doubt OP will catastrophically fail, but i am interested how it will go, god bless
are sketches on left yours? this doesn't look like an absolute zero drawing skill

[Anonymous No.4499423]

>>4499332
Average guy that can kinda understand 3D, its a good kickstart but nothing more.

Never understood how people couldn't draw a plane with consistent perspective because it was natural to me, but those same people are about my level at this point.

[Anonymous No.4499430]

>>4499318
I could see it happening if you had a mentor or instructor guiding you along, but someone doing it on their own is kind of ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.4499442]

>>4499430
Even that wouldn't help enough.
You simply need to develop hand to eye coordination and muscle memory. You need to internalize concepts, and the only way of doing so is through experience.
6 months is simply not enough time for that. It takes years.

[Anonymous No.4499451]

>>4499442
Speaking from experience here, yes it is very possible. But again it takes a lot of hard work and dedication, and someone experienced to stop you when you're about to fuck everything up and guide you to the right path.

6 months is enough time to get very good if you work hard at it but again... Nobody on /ic/ really has the drive for that anyways. I think you underestimate how much an experienced eye can speed you up.

[Anonymous No.4499458]

>>4498000
How come BBC's art style looks virtually indistinguishable from Norasukos? Pic related is Norasuko, are they the same person or something? Or did they just copy each other.

[Anonymous No.4499462]

>>4499451
It's like you didn't even read what I wrote.

[Anonymous No.4499463]

>>4499458
completely different.

[Anonymous No.4499468]

>>4499458
I never looked up to Norasuko as inspiration for my art. I like their stuff and am a fan, but that's it.
And it's definitely not the other way around either, since Nora was around way before I started doing smut.

Also, it's true that we both have pretty generic faux anime styles, but saying our stuff is "virtually indistinguishable" is just you having bad observational skills imo.
He draws faces completely differently than I do for instance.

[Anonymous No.4499474]

>>4498250
Only good post ITT

[Anonymous No.4499475]

>>4499462
stfu BBC chan and your bad advice. Youre no role model like at all, have weak fundies and your progress (and often regress) is basically due to that.

Your path is not path to success.

>>4498000

Stop drawing bad tumblr art, youre poking around in the dark. Read stickies on IC, read Loomis etc and do figure drawing - life drawing. Dont "Just draw", forget about BBc chan.

Artists who have their fundamentals or had academic educations are far more skilled in much shorter time than BBC.

[Anonymous No.4499479]

>>4499462
It's like you don't even comprehend what I'm talking about or have any actual experience to speak from. Oof.

[Anonymous No.4499481]

>>4499451
pyw

[Anonymous No.4499482]

>>4499475
>>4499479
Man if your going to talk shit to people you should atleast pyw

[Anonymous No.4499487]

You guys crab so hard at bbchan and kyle

[Anonymous No.4499489]

>>4498381
fased as buck

[Anonymous No.4499490]

>>4499479
I've been drawing for 25+ years now. If there's one thing I can speak from is experience. You don't acquire hand to eye coordination and muscle memory in 3 or 6 months.
Maybe if you have previous experience. But if you start from absolute 0 (like if you've never been passionate for drawing as a kid) there's no chance. You need years for this stuff to become second nature. Not to speak of internalizing concepts as perspective, forms, etc.
Feel the form is not a meme. Just draw is not a meme.

[Anonymous No.4499505]

Looks like the edgy teenagers have finally taken over

[Anonymous No.4499539]

>>4499318
hey BBC were you the anon that did a paintover crit of my shitty green haired girl a while back with the skirt being blown off?

[Anonymous No.4499564]

to op:

how many hours are you gonna grind every day?

[Anonymous No.4499590]

>>4499539
Nope. I don't recall an artwork like that.

[Anonymous No.4499611]

>>4499490
I've literally watched someone do it he sat next to me in school my man. He went in with the skills of a child, started from absolute 0 experience. Everyone thought he was going to flunk and he ended up improving more than even those with experience because he was willing to take every critique and put his all into every lesson. He didn't know anything, so he absorbed every piece of advice like a sponge. Whereas those with more experience brushed things off because they thought they knew better and ended up taking longer to learn the same shit.

It doesn't take years to learn this shit, sorry that it shook you so much learning that you've wasted time. I don't really know what else to tell you. Not everyone is you. Your worldview is very narrow. I'd recommend having a more open mind and getting over yourself.

>Feel the form is not a meme. Just draw is not a meme.
I don't disagree with any of that.

[Anonymous No.4499635]

>>4499468
>faux anime styles
At least you're self aware about it, I think its mostly the rendering styles that look kinda the same. But yea, Noras linework is different.

[Anonymous No.4499642]

>>4499611
Its just cuz bbc chan never studied, didnt master fundies (still obvious he hasnt by his work), that's why his way is the only thing he can recommend, he doesnt understand the value of studying well and having direction.
His "just draw" is aimless drawing, like OP already does which is just bad.

[Anonymous No.4499677]

>>4499611
Then we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Maybe you are right and I just haven't yet met a person that goes from 0 to seasoned artist in 6 months. I guess it must be very very common.
>>4499642
If that's your work, then you are just proving my point. Experience is much more important than studying.

[Anonymous No.4499686]

>>4499677
it's not it's irya-chan's iirc

[Anonymous No.4499691]

>>4499677
that's not my work, that's ilya-kun's work (much better role model, he made, he didnt let dreams be dreams).

You cant draw like that with "just draw", it's methodical approach, it's a study, it's not a work made for coomers, or any audience, but studying.

Studying doesnt mean not drawing, studying means drawing using various methods and techniques to improve your skills. Theory helps you understand how to study, how to observe and how to think about subjects.

It's not supposed to just "come to you" from empty space of nether.
No it doesnt prove your point, your point is stupid.

[Anonymous No.4499692]

>>4499686
This must be very very old then.

[Anonymous No.4499699]

>>4499691
My point is not NOT TO do one or the other, my point is that experience is more important than knowledge.
Do you really think I never studied fundamentals? Cmon man, stop baiting or something.

[Anonymous No.4499714]

>>4499699
post your studies. No i dont think you studied fundamentals, or follow teachings in most recommended books. Especially seeing how you diss them and never recommend it.

What experience? Drawing what? If you have no knowledge you dont know where to start and how to go about things, and cant picture any decent result. It's aimless.

Difference between "just drawing" and completing tasks of art teachers using their theory or methodology is night and day. "Just drawing" is literally what a child does.

[Anonymous No.4499729]

How come this guy wants to see if bbchan studied or not

[Anonymous No.4499784]

>>4498000
>>4499332
Fine, day 2, let's see it.

[Anonymous No.4499794]

>>4498000
There should be a consequence for failing, like having to post an asshole pic with timestamp. No fun watching you simply disappear when you realize you can't do it.

[Anonymous No.4499803]

>>4498000
Your goal is not realistic, but by all mean just do it, it'll benefit you more that way.

When I started drawing, my inspiration is Artgerm and I thought I could get to his level in a year or two. Now after more than 5 years, I'm still nowhere near him. I improved a lot however and could make a living from my art just after 2,5 years because I grinded my ass off chasing an unrealistic goal.

[Anonymous No.4499809]

>>4498000
Aim higher

[Anonymous No.4499845]

>>4499803
Could you pyw? I'm so unsatisfied, I've been drawing for about 2-3 years, but also studying for a STEM degree so I couldn never really focus on art, nevertheless I ended up doing being mediocre at both (although I'm still better than 75% of the people in my college).

One of these days I'll end up killing myself.

[Anonymous No.4499848]

pyw op

[Anonymous No.4499850]

I want to make a daily art challenge for me too but without an ending deadline. Give me some ideas

[Anonymous No.4499901]

>>4499611
post his work

[Anonymous No.4499902]

>>4499845
I worked full-time for game studios (drawing assets), and then worked as a freelance illustrator for various indie game companies. However nowadays I'm mostly drawing porn as none of them could give me the freedom that I wanted. My income's from Patreon, Gumroad and individuals commission (~4k5 a month).

Currently I'm working with my friends to make my own RPG game, I hope it would be something lol.

[Anonymous No.4499903]

>>4499845
I'm in the same boat except I've been drawing for 5 years and am still in /beg/ and still not done with my degree. At least you aren't me.

[Anonymous No.4499905]

>>4499902
I hope I'm at your level once I'm 10 years in.

[Anonymous No.4499910]

>>4499902
one day I will be like you

[Anonymous No.4500007]

>>4499903
What degree? I'm finishing compsci this year, my plan is to work until I have money to survive for a year without working, then spend all of that time drawing/painting until I make it.

[Anonymous No.4500012]

>>4499902
How was your routine? What helped you the most in getting to a skill level that you could find work in 2.5 years?

[Anonymous No.4500025]

>>4499905
>>4499910
>>4500012
Simp

[Anonymous No.4500050]

OP here, Let's go! #Zero2BBCChan #Day2

Here's some fresh coom fuel for all my bros, no patreonbux necessary... yet ;)

>>4499297
Thank you for the encouragement, BBC Sensei!


>>4499848
>pyw op
I posted some here: >>4498379

[Anonymous No.4500056]

>>4500050
In 24 hours OP surpassed my art. RIP me.

[Anonymous No.4500062]

>>4498379
>>4500050
This already looks kinda suspicious for someone "starting from zero"

[Anonymous No.4500066]

>>4500056

[Anonymous No.4500077]

>>4500012
At first I just copied everything that I like, still life, real life model, photos and the ones I copied the most are arts of my fav artists. Most people here is against that but I'm Asian, we don't have that culture, copying and learning from others works are normal here, even Artgerm suggested that. Ofc constructive drawing is a must, whether it's copying or drawing from imagination.

My figure drawing is still wonky af because of my background as an assets rendering monkey, tho I feel like I really improved since I started drawing porn.

[Anonymous No.4500094]

I love these threads where beginner retards massively underestimate the amount of time it takes to get good at art. If you're being personally mentored and have an insane work ethic you might make one of those crazy 1 (or 2) year progressions -but if you're on /ic/ in the first place, this obviously doesn't apply to you so don't even think about it. If you're of average aptitude, are self-teaching and have a solid work ethic, you'll get somewhere in 3 to 5 years. If you're lazy and/or a retard it could easily take 10 years. As with everything there's exceptions, but from what I've observed over the last 10+ years this is pretty accurate.
Forget about thinking in months, start thinking in years.

[Anonymous No.4500103]

>>4500077
>Im asian
Only 1 in a million wh*toids makes it and only 1 in 100 million darkmeats makes it while it seems every other asian hobbyist is at krenz level in a few years.
You're part of the art master race. Van Gogh already recognized this.

[Anonymous No.4500110]

This is just Sadlawn version 2.0.

[Anonymous No.4500111]

>>4498000
Watching this certain failure will bring me no joy.
You’ve got such a case of Dunning-Krueger they should rename it after you.

[Anonymous No.4500115]

>>4498354
>Because the sooner you learn it, the sooner you’re able to monetize it and self-sustain through it.
NAYRT, but it takes a certain type of person to be able to monetize their art and it doesn't always go hand in hand with good skills. Business has its own set of fundies.

[Anonymous No.4500119]

>>4500110
What is the sadlawn story?

[Anonymous No.4500123]

>>4500077
Thanks, so it's exactly what I thought, I think I'll leave this place once and for all and just focus on it.

Maybe 4 hours drawing and 2 hours painting everyday, watch tutorials on the weekends.

[Anonymous No.4500151]

>>4500050
in 36hours all we have is a promise and two images posted?

use a timer and show how much you actually drew and post all work, otherwise this thing's a worthless scam of a journey

[Anonymous No.4500154]

>>4499902

like your stuff easier than BBC chans, so there you go. 5 years vs 10 years.

[Anonymous No.4500181]

>>4500119
Guy said he was going to get good in a year. Posted often at first then caught on fire and died in a month. Everyone made fun of him afterwards, but he honestly took it well and I hope he is still at it with more realistic goals.

[Anonymous No.4500215]

>>4500181
I found his blog in the archives, poor guy, hope he is still at it and stressing over it less. Art should be fun and challenges like these should be had in that spirit.

[Anonymous No.4500220]

>>4500215
This new guy has a retarded attitude, sadlawn seemed decent just very misguided. Ether way the new guy will end the same.

[Anonymous No.4500240]

>>4498250
Why do anything when you're young? Why work hard in school, why go on dates, why not just wait until your 60 to start living life? Nobody has done anything note worthy starting at 50-60, hardly anybody does anything great past their 40s, "but this guy did __ at 50", yeah that's like winning the lottery, your odds of success are within your 20s-30s, and that will have an affect on the rest of your life. What you're saying is like "I'll just do my project later","I'll lose weight some day", it's coping until you die. Why would you wait? Does it just make you feel better to think that someday you'll make it? The people that succeed are the ones that are crazy obsessed with what they're doing, and the people that suck usually say "there's no rush, I'll get there someday". Your brain is in safety mode, there's no reason to progress if you have it in the back of your mind you'll get there anyway someday, good things unfortunately come at a price buddy.

If you work hard now, get good now, you'll enjoy the rest of your life a lot more, or you could just wait until your 60.

[Anonymous No.4500346]

>>4500062
>trusting anything ever
ishygddt

[Anonymous No.4500366]

>>4500240
fucking based post anon

[Anonymous No.4500387]

>>4498250
>>4500240
This makes me wonder
How do people go through the entirety of their 20s before deciding they want to get good at drawing?

[Anonymous No.4500392]

>>4500050
>made more progress in 24 hours than i have in 3 years

[Anonymous No.4500396]

>>4500387
bored and looking for a hobby

[Anonymous No.4500404]

>>4500077
>copying was the secret all along
fuck you /ic/ for making me stop copying for years

[Anonymous No.4500410]

>>4500396
Yeah that's pretty much bingo. They pick it up because they have nothing else and then drop it. Rinse repeat

[Anonymous No.4500412]

>>4500220
>This new guy has a retarded attitude
I think you just need to give him a chance

[Anonymous No.4500427]

>>4500412
That's a hell of a thigh gap but I'll take it.

[Anonymous No.4500430]

>>4500410
yeah, but that's how it is for any age group trying out anything. 99 out of 100 people are going to cap out at some low beg/low elo equivalent.

[Anonymous No.4500446]

>>4500077
>asia
>no culture
Maybe you mean murica that had no time to grow a pure culture

[Anonymous No.4500471]

>>4500430
>>4500396
You have to be at least 18 years old to post here

[Anonymous No.4500474]

>>4500471
Retard

[Anonymous No.4500477]

>>4500474
Dilate

[Anonymous No.4500484]

>>4500477
Seethe

[Anonymous No.4500486]

>>4500484
Have sex

[Anonymous No.4500488]

>>4500471

[Anonymous No.4500502]

>>4500486
Bend over

[Anonymous No.4500512]

>>4500404
I think copying + try to draw the same thing the next day from memory is the true red pill.
No matter how much analyzing or constructing you do while copying, you are still just reproducing an answer that is laid out for you, so the problem solving part of your brain isn't fully engaged.
By drawing an image from memory that you already know exists, you get to do some problem solving and also check the answer at the end to see where your mistakes were.

[Anonymous No.4500528]

>>4498000
You need to aim higher than this trash artist

[Anonymous No.4500545]

>>4499490
pyw

[Anonymous No.4500613]

>>4500050
>day 2
>already better than 95% of /beg/

[Anonymous No.4500631]

>>4500613
Stop feeding the ego of this guy, he is no way starting from 0

[Anonymous No.4500633]

>>4500050
>anons believe this is 'starting from zero'
OP is a fucking liar wanting to get his e-dick stroked.

[Anonymous No.4500634]

>>4500077
>the ones I copied the most are arts of my fav artists. Most people here is against that
I always hear artists that made it talk about how they copied their favorite artists, maybe if someone ONLY copied and nothing else then I can understand why anons might be against it, but there's nothing wrong with including it as one part of your overall routine.

[Anonymous No.4500635]

>>4499714
>Especially seeing how you diss them and never recommend it.
Not true. The first thing I always recommend to people is to study fundamentals.
You are completely missing the point I'm trying to make here.
We, no you guys, are just going in circles. :\

[Anonymous No.4500638]

>>4500512
>I think

Good for you. Pyw, prove your method shithead.

[Anonymous No.4500640]

ITT: 2 year perma-beg tries to make people believe he is starting to draw just yesterday.

sad thing is that some people think its legit.

[Anonymous No.4500646]

>>4500635
Then say "Loomis" instead of "just draw" , the books already tell you to draw and what to draw and what the process is.

[Anonymous No.4500648]

>>4499803
>>4499902
Finally somebody that gets it. And would you look at that. Another artist that actually went through it and is speaking from experience.

[Anonymous No.4500652]

>>4500646
I just believe that just draw is much more important than loomis, but Loomis is important as well. Cmon, get it already.

[Anonymous No.4500653]

>>4499803
You should have been able to at least get to artgerm level in 4 years man. What the hell did you waste your time doing?

[Anonymous No.4500655]

>>4500545
...
I'm BBC Chan.

[Anonymous No.4500668]

>>4500655
prove it

[Anonymous No.4500672]

>>4500655
Why'd'ya choose that name mhm?

[Anonymous No.4500679]

>>4500672
/ic/ chose it for me.
I was drawing BBC comics full time and I liked the pun.

[Anonymous No.4500683]

>>4500668
I've been participating in this thread for a while now. Please stop being weird.

[Anonymous No.4500697]

>>4500679
Are you a nigger?

[Anonymous No.4500701]

>>4500652
But just draw is simply not enough, it's inadequate, and simply not enough. Children just draw, doodling in notebook when bored in school is just drawing, but that wont get you anywhere, no direction.

[Anonymous No.4500719]

>>4500683
>being weird
Says the fag that draws niggers and trannies.

[Anonymous No.4500720]

>>4500512
Yeah, this, copy a drawing, then get another page and try making the same drawing from memory, this is the TRUEST RED PILL OF ALL.

Do this for enough drawings and after some time your brain will start picking up cues that it needs to remember some details to make drawing without reference easier. This + construction and basic anatomy and you're good.

Copy thousand of pictures with this method and you'll get better for sure.

[Anonymous No.4500757]

>>4500701
just draw until your drawing is correct.

[Anonymous No.4500767]

>>4500701
I guess now you aren't even trying anymore.

[Anonymous No.4500798]

>>4500679
Interesting. Thanks for answering.

[Anonymous No.4500931]

>>4500653
Not gonna happen, now that I know better, 4 years is still really retard number. 10 years + drawing nonstop, then maybe, just maybe, you could get to his level.

[Anonymous No.4500933]

How long did Artgerm take to get to Artgerm's level?

[Anonymous No.4500980]

>>4500933
He's probably in his thirties or fourties and has been drawing his whole life. This is how the good artist thing typically goes

[Anonymous No.4501084]

>>4500640
this board is normietown, what do you expect?

[Anonymous No.4501101]

>>4500980
but how many years was he seriously studying drawing?

[Anonymous No.4501107]

>>4501101
I dont fucking know nigger and you will never reach his level anyway if you're wondering this shit

[Anonymous No.4501112]

>>4501101
probably zero since he's chinese

[Anonymous No.4501121]

>>4500050
based as fuck

[Anonymous No.4501139]

>>4500050
Kind of sad you made this thread and only have like 2 pages of doodles to post

[Anonymous No.4501216]

not starting form zero. OP is a larper.

look at the understanding of the head shape in this one. yet the rest looks like /beg shit.

this nigga knows loomis.

[Anonymous No.4501224]

Alsoo the hand is sketchy. usually zeros cant even wrap their head around the idea that fingers can be pointing at you and lose length. but yet some of his hands look rushed and intentionally shitty.

I CALL BULLSHIT. but keep it up

[Anonymous No.4501341]

>>4501224
it was obvious bullshit from the OP m8

[Anonymous No.4501630]

still looking forward

[Anonymous No.4501643]

>>4501216
what's a "loomis"?

[Anonymous No.4501654]

>>4501643
You're not fooling anyone, Mr. 'starting from zero'

[Anonymous No.4501815]

>>4499611
Anecdotal evidence is not a good measure

[Anonymous No.4501821]

>>4500635
>weeding out the competition
Smart move

[Anonymous No.4501824]

>>4500007
Mathematics with a minor in compsci

[Anonymous No.4501833]

>>4501643
>broken lines
No absolute beginner in the history of art has ever done that.

[Anonymous No.4501884]

>>4501107
take your blood pressure meds gramps

[Anonymous No.4501999]

Is it so hard to fake being a shitter?

[Anonymous No.4502017]

Why pretend to be an absolute /beg/ on an anonymous imageboard?

[Anonymous No.4502091]

>>4498000
>>4500050
You aren't starting from 0 though. It's pretty obvious you have previous experience.
Are you larping or just can't tell what it means to start from 0?

[Anonymous No.4502096]

How bad do you have to be impressed on any level by these babydrawings lol. It doesn't matter if OP is "day zero" or year three, he's going to fail because his objective is a retarded waste of time only a donnie kruger could cook up.

[Anonymous No.4502142]

>>4502096
pyw. let me guess. you won't, right?

[Anonymous No.4502149]

>>4502142
You first normie

[Anonymous No.4502163]

>>4502142
Nah. I'll have a laugh at this thread instead.

[Anonymous No.4502171]

I'm half-tempted to join in on this challenge, but the goal is poorly defined. What exactly is the aim here?
Making full-figure drawings of nude anime girls in BBC-chans style?
How would you measure whether or not you've reached the goal?

[Anonymous No.4502195]

>>4502149
I suck at art. but I also don't make claims like that retard.

>>4502163
you just proved my point. you definitely suck.

[Anonymous No.4502202]

>>4502171
the claim is to become as good as bbc chan in 3 months starting from 0. completely unrealistic. even 3 years would probably be too short.

[Anonymous No.4502208]

>>4502096
It's not that the drawings so far are impressive, it's that he may already be a good artist who's pretending to be bad so he can post his real work 3 months from now and claim to be a prodigy.
Then again, it's hard to believe that someone at BBC's level would be so starved for attention that they would want to pull a stupid stunt like that.

[Anonymous No.4502216]

>>4502195
You're actually offended that I called a /beg/ drawing a /beg/ drawing. Think about that.

[Anonymous No.4502221]

>>4502208
He draws feet like a /beg/ who's only ever looked at shitty anime drawings. Seen it a thousand times, that stupid pigeon-toed pegfoot thing that every weeb does. If he's actually any good, he's far, far better at faking being bad. That's his true art.

[Anonymous No.4502230]

>>4502202
Well, what I really want to know I suppose, is how do you even measure that?
I don't understand what skills I'm supposed to have developed, and to what level, to consider the goal to have been reached.
How would you know if you're as good as BBC-Chan?

[Anonymous No.4502232]

>>4502202
I never wanted to ask, but how many years does it take to get to industry standard? Specially vidya.

[Anonymous No.4502309]

>>4500094
>I love these threads where beginner retards massively underestimate the amount of time it takes to get good at art

At least when conceptart.org still existed you was able to see realistically how artists got from beg to pro level over the years in their sketchbook threads. The only way you can see this now is if an artist happened to post their art DeviantArt while they were improving. Most popular artists haven't updated their deviantart in a long time.

[Anonymous No.4502350]

>>4502216
if bbc is /beg/ then what do you consider advanced? leonardo davinci?

>>4502232
I'd say 5 to 10 years of serious studying and dedication. depending on how talented you are and oh how good your background is before that. I guess very talented individuals could be even faster.

[Anonymous No.4502353]

Best drawing I ever made this was 2014 stopped drawing to focus on schooling more I was about 14-15 year old haven't drawn in 7 years.

[Anonymous No.4502356]

example of my ability to draw a person

[Anonymous No.4502361]

my first attempt at practicing forms in a sense

[Anonymous No.4502362]

>>4502353
If you aren't making stuff up, I would say your case could be considered as if starting from 0.

[Anonymous No.4502366]

perspective example

[Anonymous No.4502389]

>>4502353
>>4502356
>>4502362
>>4502366

so since op is a lair about being a beginner starting from zero I'll actually do this challenge as some who has no understanding of the fundies or where to really start. Those are example of my skills which are non existent. I want to try this challenge and see how far I get in 3 months. I have about 4 characters that have been floating around in my head for years but I never have tried to draw them because I would be insulted by what came out the other end.

These are examples of where I want to be
https://youtu.be/w6StfT6_a7g
https://youtu.be/S-2JD2MRKtc
https://youtu.be/Pz9zE8qHcNE

[Anonymous No.4502470]

>>4502309
I was watching some random twitch stream, and someone mentioned artposse. I think the website is dead now, but you can see a couple of ConceptArt-style sketchbooks there, where people go from absolute /beg/ to pro level.

I wonder how many forums like that exist right now, too bad there's only /ic/

[Anonymous No.4502488]

>>4502232
5+ realistically

[Anonymous No.4502492]

>>4502470
Crimsondaggers is the only fairly known one left, everything else is extremely obscure or ran into a landfill.

[Anonymous No.4502753]

>>4502362
it's like people didn't even look at his day ""zero"" drawings

[Anonymous No.4503062]

>>4502488
>>4502350
that sounds like a 6-7 to me, I'm no brainlet but I'm not super talented.

[Anonymous No.4503065]

>>4499458
BBCchan has less of a sameface

[Anonymous No.4503076]

>>4502753
Cope

[Anonymous No.4503107]

>>4503076
Ask any member of your family that have never drawn anything before to draw a cube in
a top down perspective.

[Anonymous No.4503113]

>>4503107
He either copied that drawing 1:1, maybe even traced it, or he already has a background in drawing, there's no way he's freehanding this without experience.

[Anonymous No.4503135]

>>4498000
Ganbatte Anon-chan. Fuck the Haters. Become a Legend

[Anonymous No.4503190]

>>4500697
fuck off racist

[Anonymous No.4503555]

>>4503190
>being this new

[Anonymous No.4503581]

>>4498006
I wish I could tell you.

[Anonymous No.4504810]

op wheres my day 3

[Anonymous No.4504813]

>>4503190
I'm gonna guess and say that's not bbc-chan speaking, otherwise yikes.

[Anonymous No.4505121]

>>4504810
They gave up as predicted, another example for the newfags that will inevitably come and try to speedrun making it.

[Anonymous No.4505128]

>>4505121
Shit, he made more progress than 95% of the /beg/s here, kek. Too bad, I was interested on how things will turn out.

[Anonymous No.4505136]

>>4502353
>>4502356
>>4502361
>>4502366
Who are you? You are not OP at least.

[Anonymous No.4505157]

>>4504810
I actually posted this yesterday, just not here. This is hard, no wonder you guys are so grumpy all the time. Good thing drawing is so much fun!

[Anonymous No.4505158]

>>4499902
If you give up on commissions, how much do you think you would make?

[Anonymous No.4505183]

>>4505157
Absolutely ngmi

[Anonymous No.4505196]

>>4505157
keep on going anon u gmi

[Anonymous No.4505198]

>>4505183
>seething that day 1 anon made more progress than you.

[Anonymous No.4505216]

>>4505157
20 minutes of work, where's the rest of 15hours?

[Anonymous No.4505294]

>>4505158
It's hard to tell, I earn 1k5 a month by commissions. I'll be more popular since commission posts tend to have much lower engagement rate than my regular drawing. But I don't know how many of the addition followers would support me on Patreon and Gumroad.

[Anonymous No.4505305]

>>4505294
>I earn 1k5 a month by commissions
Okay thanks, that's a lot. It would probably be a risky move to stop doing it.

[Anonymous No.4505312]

>>4499902
you can be pro with such skill ? Bruh maybe i will try too

[Anonymous No.4505317]

>>4505312
What do you mean by that?

[Anonymous No.4505377]

>>4505312
If you can do it, then do it. My skill is enough for indie, small and medium game companies, ofc no big companies are gonna hire me with such skill, I need at least a few years more to reach to that level.

Althogh nowadays I always turn down offer from decent companies because: they don't pay 100% upfront, they demand too many sketches before the final products, the deadline is tight and I can't use their works as my Patreon rewards.

[Anonymous No.4505402]

>>4505312
>maybe i will try too
try drawing too?

[Anonymous No.4506785]

>>4499902

Same here lol. Dropped 'the industry' for patreon and porno fame. Making my own games too now after adding programming to the mix of skills.

Life is great. Porn/commissions/passive income is 10* higher quality of life than working for studios. Never going back.

[Anonymous No.4507092]

>>4500240
On the contrary, the most successful entrepreneurs usually start in their 50s and 60s.

There's nothing particularly great about youth. You don't know very much and you don't have very many resources. You don't even know yourself very well - don't know how to manage your emotions, regulate your impulses, get yourself to do things that you want to do but don't want to do right now. Logically, by every metric, your old age is the time when you're most likely to succeed at anything you try which isn't strictly physical.

What happens to the entrepreneurs who start in their 20s? They make a bit of money and then get fucked out of their companies by 60 year old investors who have the capital to leverage over them - 99% of the time.

[Anonymous No.4507100]

>>4498250
Most people who do great things start very young. That's just a fact.
For what it's worth there have been artists who did their greatest work when they were very old. Hokusai, Cezanne. That seems to just be more of an argument to start early though - both of those guys were painting by their 20s and it STILL took them that long to do their best work.

[Anonymous No.4507126]

>>4507092
>20 year olds don't have the capital to finance projects
wow, what a fucking revelation.

[Anonymous No.4507797]

>>4507092
Being an artist is heavily skill based while being an entrepreneur is not. Everybody can start their own company and call themself that name, but if you are an artist and suck them nobody will take you seriously.
Being an artist is like being a concert pianist. The sooner you start and the more mileage you have the better.

[Anonymous No.4508255]

>>4507092
nothing particularly great about youth huh... other than when you do something with it youve got a life left to live, rather than living max 20 years after hitting your lucky strike in the golden years, thanks but im taking my chances now

[Anonymous No.4508437]

>>4498323
why? who is rushing you?

[Anonymous No.4508442]

>>4507797
Holy this
>all these crusty 40 yo itt wondering why people want to make it while they're young

[Anonymous No.4509196]

op wheres my day 4

[Anonymous No.4509274]

>>4509196
>>4502091

[Anonymous No.4509297]

>>4502389
Are you still here or did you die too? Many such a case!

[Anonymous No.4509595]

>>4509196
Sorry, forgot to post something - to busy studying. My poor little brain is soar. This perspective stuff is so cool! I always thought my favorite anime artists were just squeezing stuff on one side to look cool.

[Anonymous No.4509603]

>>4509595
Yeah it looks like you're just trying to mindlessly copy things lol. Only 1 page again?

[Anonymous No.4509604]

>>4509595
that looks like you dont uunderstand what any of that means. Loomis, forget about bbcuck.

[Anonymous No.4509998]

>>4509604
It's not like he's trying to learn from BBC, he's trying to reach his level. Are you retarded or something?

[Anonymous No.4511934]

>>4507092
>entrepreneurs
a business is a different thing completely, largely reliant on money and free time.

#1. Look at facts, how many artists/musicians do you see find success later in life? hardly any, most popular artists are young, in their 20s-30s.
> Logically, by every metric
untrue, like I said look at the facts. What works? look at the guys that succeed, 10 hour days, obsessed, dying for the thing they care about and reaping the rewards. You don't have to wait your whole life to realize the older you get the harder it gets to make it, you can learn from the mistakes of others.

#2. like I said you can work hard now and enjoy the rest of your life more or you can wait until your 60 in which it probably won't happen then due to the lack of artists that find success at that age. I have a dream life, and I'm going for it, not going to settle for a shitty life, I'll put blood sweat and tears into it, not only that I enjoy it.

[Anonymous No.4512011]

>>4500181
>died in a month
Why?

[Anonymous No.4512025]

>>4512011
Mental illness

[Anonymous No.4512108]

>>4509603
> Only 1 page again?
There's more, but I don't think it is meaningful to catalog every scribble I put to paper.

Anyways, posting before I begin today. Decided I should try being more organized in my studies. I don't expect to get through all these bullet points in a day. I'm just laying them out in a logical manner to help me organize my time and study.

Also any future #day posts on here will be posted in /beg/

[Anonymous No.4512174]

>>4509595
looks like utter shit, lol

[Anonymous No.4512254]

>>4512108
anon i dont want to sound like a sperg but i am curious how many hours you're putting in

[Anonymous No.4512262]

>>4508442
I don’t want to discourage anybody from reaching their goals, just that they are realistic with their goals. The biggest liar that exists in this universe is ourself and exercising a vision or an idea is easier than putting in the work.

[Anonymous No.4512278]

>>4512011
He died figuratively of course. Set very unrealistic goals and burnt out.