Why do people hate Pollock so much?

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Anonymous Mon Apr 13 11:05:13 2020 No.4490702 [Reply] [Original]

Why do people hate Pollock so much?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 11:06:13 2020 No.4490706 >>4490702 Mustard and ketchup with a bit of mayonnaise

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 11:10:36 2020 No.4490713 >>4490702 Because he is one of the most notable hacks of art history.

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 11:28:56 2020 No.4490746
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>>4490702
I've always enjoyed his work, if you study it there is a strong sense of design and lyricism.

He was taught by Thomas Hart Benton, who was a strong figurative artist (pic attached). It's subtle, but you can see the link in the dynamism of their work.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 11:29:10 2020 No.4490747 paint go splish splash lol :D

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 11:34:20 2020 No.4490753 >>4490746 Kill yourself, honestly.

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 11:40:59 2020 No.4490766

>>4490702
Because the average /ic/ user is 16 years old and only values big titty anime girls as art.

I don't love pollock, but I appreciate the concept of breaking barriers and reminding that art can be used as a personal creative expression and not only as a tool mass produce same shit in different flavors to the current needs of the masses.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 11:42:07 2020 No.4490768 >>4490766 what was he expressing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 11:43:29 2020 No.4490769 >>4490766 >mass produce same shit in different flavors Because Pollock sure didn't.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 11:54:22 2020 No.4490790 >>4490766 What was he expressing exactly? Having a seizure? It's up there with some of the most pretencious "art" wankery of all time, I've got as much expression in my toilet bowl after explosive diarrhea..

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 11:55:56 2020 No.4490798 >>4490702 I will reverse image search to see if I’m correct, but that is NOT a Pollock painting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 11:56:56 2020 No.4490801 >>4490768 Expressing money laundering

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:00:48 2020 No.4490808 >>4490702 Because he is ridiculously overrated? Hacks like this should never get popular, let alone be able to sell their shit for millions.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:02:28 2020 No.4490814 >>4490702 Because we can eat salmon which tastes way better, and is just as sustainable

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:02:30 2020 No.4490815 >>4490713 >>4490790 I don't like modern and contemporary art but Pollock is far from the worst of them. His works were mostly uninteresting but they had a certain aesthetic value.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:05:26 2020 No.4490820 >>4490753 lol why? life's too good.

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:07:38 2020 No.4490827

>>4490798
>>4490702
Oh, look at that. This ISN’T EVEN A POLLOCK PAINTING. (If anyone can give me the title, the year it was painted, a website, or any other proof that it’s a real Pollock, I will eat my hat.)

It’s just a shitty painting imitating his style. It’s almost like you idiots don’t actually know anything about how Pollock painted, and don’t actually have any right to critique his work.
It’s easy enough just by looking at OP’s pic for five seconds to see it isn’t a Pollock painting.
Jesus fucking Christ. Have some knowledge on Modern art before you go spouting your ignorant opinions online.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:10:18 2020 No.4490835 >>4490702 Hate is a strong emotion which would give hiss works some kind of significance. People indifferently ridicule Pollock because his art is a hollow pretense.

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:11:43 2020 No.4490839

>>4490827
When i google it all results say Jackson Pollock. He probably shat out so many of these no one has bothered to index them all. Prove it's not by him. What's that? You can't? You're just a retard LARPing as le knowledgeable art connoiseur and failing miserably at it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:12:16 2020 No.4490840 >>4490827 >This ISN’T EVEN A POLLOCK PAINTING Nobody cares and that's the point. If his art can be confused with a splash of dirt on the door of my car it holds equal value.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:12:46 2020 No.4490841 >>4490820 As an act of consideration for your fellow human beings.

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:17:08 2020 No.4490846

>>4490768
>>4490790

probably something like >>4490747
If you are looking for some great symbolism is his work it's no wonder you might hate him. Art always changes when things get stale and dull, and when that happens the most fresh gust of air gets the most attention. It's ok to look at pollocks paintings 2020 and say "meh, not a fan", that's what I personally do, but I can still appreciate cultural impact and him challenging traditional views of art, because that's how art evolves.
Yet everyday /ic/ shits on modern art, acting like it was painted yesterday, rambling to each other how unbelievable it is that there has existed a human who found art like this good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:19:14 2020 No.4490851 File: 27 KB, 780x439, sunny.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4490841 But my wife adores me.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:21:54 2020 No.4490856 >>4490851 Your waifu ain’t real.

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:22:00 2020 No.4490857

>>4490839
>He probably shat out so many of these no one has bothered to index them all.
Are you aware of how ignorant you sound?

>Prove it's not by him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

>When i google it all results say Jackson Pollock.
Show me one web page that acts as substantial proof that it's a Pollock painting. One reputable museum, gallery, historian, whatever.

>>4490840
>Nobody cares and that's the point.
Exactly. I agree with this. If /ic/ posters don't actually care if a work is Pollock's or not, though, how can they have a valid opinion on his work?

>If his art can be confused with a splash of dirt on the door of my car it holds equal value.
Here's the thing: it can only be confused with a splash of dirt on the door of your car if you know nothing about Pollock's work. I'm no expert in Modern art, but I could EASILY tell that OP's pic isn't a Pollock.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:27:08 2020 No.4490867 File: 21 KB, 768x432, sunny 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4490856 But my wife is. 12 year relationship. How about you?

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:30:20 2020 No.4490871

>>4490706
Someone who eats at drive through's a lot. or has child rearing experience.
>>4490713
Yep
>>4490746
Lol
>>4490766
He made it big because it behove the art establishment to fuck over Western culture.
>>4490768
Being pissed or hungover, usually. Or not having the wife around to beat up.

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:32:48 2020 No.4490872

>>4490702
I always liked his paintings, they have a kind of satisfying quality to them. I also just really like the chaos.
People whop dont like Pollocks work often say "he just flung paint around! it takes no effort!" but honestly those people are just looking at art incorrectly. you should just look at the painting, and ask yourself if you like it. yes or no.
but people always over complicate it, thinking about the process over the finished painting.

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:34:55 2020 No.4490875

>>4490815
The paint splattered on my garage floor also has "a certain aesthetic value". Where are all pretentious artfags creaming themselves over it.
Oh, that's right, you're first and foremost subscribing to this name to climb the pseud status pyramid. All these big names making a big deal about this shit, I better follow suit so I can stroke my ego in the same manner. All the 2deep4u relativist wankery comes secondary. Because masturbation feels good, but also to outmaneuver intellectually honest people calling them out. Using circular logic and so on. The actual contents of the piece comes after that. In the best case scenario.
It's all dumb pseuds partaking in a naked emperor parade. Or more like trapped in it, it's not like anyone would admit to being a tool that easily.

Disregarding the investment/money laundering angle. But it couldn't happen with all the self-important shitbrains LARPing as intellectuals.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:38:11 2020 No.4490883 >>4490851 Your wife deserves pain. We don't.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:41:58 2020 No.4490888 >>4490872 This, the people who say that shit are also sharing facebook memes about " DAE english teacher say blue curtains equal sad, but maybe author just like blue and curtains!"

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:44:51 2020 No.4490891 File: 640 KB, 1970x1500, hb_1982.147.27.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Some of his paintings are just too much but I like pic related. I had it as my desktop wallpaper for a while.

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:46:03 2020 No.4490893
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>>4490875
>The paint splattered on my garage floor also has "a certain aesthetic value".
Yes.
>Oh, that's right, you're first and foremost subscribing to this name to climb the pseud status pyramid
No. I don't value an accidentally aesthetic paint splash more than a Pollock painting.

I'm just saying that I would prefer to have an accidental splash of paint or a pollock on my wall than pic related.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:47:43 2020 No.4490900 >>4490872 Wrong. People who don't like Pollock doesn't do it because of the subject matter, but rather what they represent, the fine art world's descent into eternal hack-wanker codependency.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:47:53 2020 No.4490901 File: 566 KB, 1279x895, 1911_-_Марк_Шагал.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4490893 uh bad example, I just saw chagall in the name. This is what I meant to use.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:50:21 2020 No.4490905 >>4490901 >i don't care about names >nvm I just saw it was a chagall k retard

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 12:56:11 2020 No.4490917

>>4490905
I didn't say I didn't care about names. I said I didn't value names.
But they remain a shortcut to the value of the paintings on which they're written. Pollocks are usually uninteresting but not unpleasant, while Chagalls (Шaгaл) are usually repulsive (I just accidentally posted a counterexample in >>4490893).

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 13:06:17 2020 No.4490935 File: 14 KB, 361x427, sunny 3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4490883 lol you really think that. no worries man, peace.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 13:16:41 2020 No.4490946 >>4490935 Stop posting that creepy thing

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 13:18:34 2020 No.4490952 >>4490935 Bye. I'll pray that you and your wife meet a painful and violent end.

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 14:04:18 2020 No.4491063
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>>4490702
Most people only know of Pollock as a reference in their favorite sitcoms. Thinking he's still hated in 2020 seems a little over-optimistic. Most people wouldn't be able to tell your pic isn't a true Pollock. Pic is a comparison with one his work, I don't even like Pollock but he wasn't colorblind.

> Tldr; he's a Meme now, let the real man rip

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 14:05:37 2020 No.4491066 >>4490900 I never really cared about stuff like that, I just enjoy looking at paintings

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 14:12:43 2020 No.4491076
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Weird how all the art history majors are so insistent that we learn and respect the legacy of artists who went out of their way to mock and despoil the legacies of their own forebears. Maybe I would care more about learning the names and life stories of your scribble artists if they didn't spend their careers shouting that art is pointless and meaningless.

Btw, you guys will be studying the western anime movement in a few decades, so when I Make It I'll be sure to insert some profound symbolism into the background of my thicc girl butthole worship pieces, look forward to it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 14:13:17 2020 No.4491077 >>4490753 >>4490768 >>4490790 >>4490769 >>4490801 >>4490808 >>4490840 >>4490841 crabs gonna crab

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 14:19:41 2020 No.4491092 >>4491066 And thus the cycle continues. Skill getting discredited, laziness awarded.

Anonymous Mon Apr 13 14:25:36 2020 No.4491107

>>4491092
if you showed me a painting that took the artist 5 months to paint, and then showed me a different painting that took the artist 5 minuets to paint, if I prefer the 5 minuet painting then thats what I think. and vice versa, if I preferred the painting that took 5 months to make then thats how it is.
im not gonna automatically say the 5 month painting is better because it took 5 months to make, im gonna say which painting I prefer based on which one I think looks nicer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 14:36:08 2020 No.4491130 >>4491107 Skill doesn’t equate to how much time is spent on a piece.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 14:45:56 2020 No.4491155 >>4490891 Nice

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 17:57:18 2020 No.4491510 >>4491130 yes? youre agreeing retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 13 23:24:33 2020 No.4492246 Id love to see a thread where some of you guys try to make something like this, seeing how easy it is to make apparently.

Anonymous Tue Apr 14 00:06:26 2020 No.4492327
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>>4490702
><110 IQ
lol wtf who let the kid play with paint?
>110-120 IQ
UHH AKCHULLY IT’S A EXPRESSION OF THE NEED TO BREAK OUT OF THE CONSTRICTING BOUNDARIES AND DOGMAS OF THE ART WORLD SEE UH YOU CAN MAKE ORDER OUT OF CHAOS IF YOU’RE SMART ENUF ARTISTIC CLASS AND PERSPECTIVISM NIETZSCHE AND/OR EXISTENTIALISM AND/OR FRENCH DECONSTRUCTIONISM U JUST DON’T GET IT BRO
>121-130
lol wtf who let the kid play with paint?
>131+
THE OSS WAS USED AS A PROXY BY THE ROYAL INSTITUTE TO FUND ART TO CONFUSE AND DECAY THE MORAL FABRIC OF SOCIETY AS AN INTERNATIONAL EFFORT TO CREATE A BRAINLESS CONSUMER SLAVE CLASS THAT IS INCAPABLE OF AND UNWILLING TO REACH FOR HIGHER TRUTHS OF THE LOGOS AS AN EMBODIMENT OF ANTICHRIST

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 00:08:35 2020 No.4492329 James Bollocks

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 01:07:01 2020 No.4492406 >>4492327 /thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 01:13:23 2020 No.4492409 Rothko is the only abstract expressionist I like and he basically just made color swatches.

Anonymous Tue Apr 14 01:31:22 2020 No.4492436
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The man had a decent sense of color (not that you would know by the fake in the OP), and I enjoy some of his works, but abstract expressionism just gets boring after a while

>>4492327
>THE OSS WAS USED AS A PROXY BY THE ROYAL INSTITUTE TO FUND ART TO CONFUSE AND DECAY THE MORAL FABRIC OF SOCIETY AS AN INTERNATIONAL EFFORT TO CREATE A BRAINLESS CONSUMER SLAVE CLASS THAT IS INCAPABLE OF AND UNWILLING TO REACH FOR HIGHER TRUTHS OF THE LOGOS AS AN EMBODIMENT OF ANTICHRIST
I don't think that was the intention, but I'm sure it was a welcome side effect

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 01:45:30 2020 No.4492456 >>4492327 Based and schizopilled

Anonymous Tue Apr 14 03:02:20 2020 No.4492593

>>4490746
>>4490766
>>4490815
>>4490827
>>4490846
>>4490857
>>4490872
>>4490888
>>4491063
>>4490891
>>4492246
>>4492436
>*BRAPP* quite pungent my dear
>being a pseud
>pretending shit like this has not been a disaster for the craft
Anyone genuinely interested in art should make a point to spit on shit like this at any opportunity. To be "okay" with the consequences of postmodernist wankery is to take a shit on the legacy of all skilled artists that has ever existed. And the only reason anyone would go out of their way actively supporting postmodernism is that they themselves are talentless hacks in the making who'd benefit from keeping the bar at toe level.
There is nothing groundbreaking in postmodernism anymore and as such nothing of value remains. It's a dead meme, fully institutionalized and constitutes an oppressive force to anyone with genuine vision.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 07:42:46 2020 No.4492992 >>4490713 Okay Amawu.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 07:46:08 2020 No.4493001 >>4492593 This. Only normies who start out in art and hope for fat bucks like this kind of art

Anonymous Tue Apr 14 08:04:58 2020 No.4493040
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I like mosaic-inspired abstract art with soothing colors like pic related, but random strokes, I don't get it. It's just annoying to the eye.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 09:51:39 2020 No.4493196 >>4490702 literal autism tbqh

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 12:08:17 2020 No.4493493 >>4492593 Pollock wasn't postmodern, you dolt.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 12:15:56 2020 No.4493512 >>4491063 The top one is much more appealing than the bottom one. Which one is Pollock?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 12:16:16 2020 No.4493515 File: 149 KB, 476x476, 3a9.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4492593 >t.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 12:22:29 2020 No.4493528 File: 3.36 MB, 848x1394, Screen Shot 2020-04-14 at 12.21.17 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4493512 Top obviously. And it's not even the full painting. Pic related is the full thing. The bottom is an extremely shitty imitation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 12:32:58 2020 No.4493555 >>4493528 The bottom one looks better anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 13:39:30 2020 No.4493703 >>4493555 I'll check your trips if you get your eyes checked--cuz I think you need to.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 14 16:33:41 2020 No.4494162 >>4493528 I prefer the vitality of the bottom to the Pollock. Its got a lot more vigor in it, whereas the one you posted here comes of as more subdued and even feminine. Was Pollock gay?

Anonymous Wed Apr 15 20:40:10 2020 No.4497999

Pollock is interesting to me simply as a conversation piece. There's not a lot of gray area with his work, people love him or hate him. Personally I like to look at his career as a whole, his earliest pieces were far from paint thrown on a canvas, but as the alcoholism and womanizing ripped through his psyche it's reflected in his style/work. Just the 2 cents of some NGMI

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 20:49:19 2020 No.4498020 >>4492327 based poster on /ic/, rare

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 15 21:01:05 2020 No.4498057 File: 294 KB, 600x600, face.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4493040

Anonymous Thu Apr 16 01:56:55 2020 No.4498652
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>>4492593
>t. pretentious fag
I don't really care what justification a bunch of retards used to destroy the art world. If I enjoy a painting, then it serves its purpose. Getting this mad over AbEx is fucking stupid anyways, it's just boring at worst - conceptual art is the real cancer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 01:57:49 2020 No.4498654 >>4490702 Because he was a fucking hack, not a real artist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 16 09:31:42 2020 No.4499379 >>4498654 Okay amawu

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 17 04:21:52 2020 No.4501731 >>4498652 Yeah

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 18 09:57:57 2020 No.4505145 >>4497999 Do say ngmi.. It's weeby.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 18 11:21:20 2020 No.4505300 >>4490746 >there is a strong sense of design and lyricism get the fuck out of here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 18 16:08:39 2020 No.4506052 >>4490746 >design and lyricism what do you think of Lee Krasner then?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 19 15:09:38 2020 No.4509028 >>4491076 Noice

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 19 19:58:00 2020 No.4509913 tldr people try to justify an alcoholic garbage hack and make themselves look like fools.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 19 19:59:13 2020 No.4509916 >>4509913 Haha nice Pollock sucks, dorks. A kid can do that work, even an animal can do it. Nothing special.

>>	GalleryBro Sun Apr 19 20:00:55 2020 No.4509928 >>4492327 finally someone said what I can't be arsed to type

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