How does this happen

[Anonymous No.4470083]

Pic on the left is about 3 months after this person filled out a sketchbook of 100 heads of pic on the rights quality.

imho I feel they got worse, and draw the ugly feared tumblr style now. How tf does this happen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbhMHApwZVY video if any of you care.

[Anonymous No.4470087]

drew too many subhuman heads, not enough human heads.

[Anonymous No.4470091]

>>4470083
Is it fair to compare the quality of sketches to fully colored painting?

[Anonymous No.4470094]

>>4470083
how did what happen? what are you asking?
if you think the heads on the right are drastically different in terms of quality then you're mistaken, just slightly more proportionate.
oh and post your work

[Anonymous No.4470097]

>>4470094
way better than your fat ass dumbfuck

[Anonymous No.4470099]

drawing while keeping space in head - and 100 head-drawing arent that much.
If she youl have consructor just practices the generic forms in space how these sit e.g.. the improvement would have been better - but many are not willing to do this cause it will get "boring".

[Anonymous No.4470102]

>>4470097
>b-better than you!
>doesnt post work

yeah i thought so. nice thread.

[Anonymous No.4470108]

>>4470102
nice bait. It was a simple question, but you have to be butthurt about it cause you were having a bad day. Sorry someone trashed your art, but don't come in here asking me to post my work when I'm asking a simple genuine question of how Pic in OP deteriorated to tumblr tier art in a span of 3 months.

[Anonymous No.4470114]

Why do we care that some literal random ruined themselves

[Anonymous No.4470118]

>>4470108
lmao what bait you sperg? i asked you to clarify what you were asking and now youre pissing your pants because you draw worse that the OP you're trashing. lol

[Anonymous No.4470130]

everybody pyw before trying to sperg

[Anonymous No.4470133]

>>4470130

[Anonymous No.4470136]

>>4470091
Yes. If it's the same person.

[Anonymous No.4470140]

>>4470083
Because both rely on the same facial structure. All have a similiar jawline, nose, eye width height and shape, similiar eyebrows, hairstyles and most importantly, lips and nose. In their effort to be diverse they ended up unbelievably muddled and samey. You could tell me all the people on the right are siblings and I'd believe it. Where are the balding, slim noses, thin lips, pointy jaws, old, fat, bony, mature faces? No dustinguishable traits. All the same racially ambiguous people in their 20s. And you tell me that's diverse? These people truly are isolated and tumblr obsessed, only in the most liberal areas of America would you find faces like these common, and even then it gets tiring.

[Anonymous No.4470141]

>>4470118
?? You asked me to post my work which is completely irrelevant to the question I'm asking? Am I asking how to get better like 95% of the threads here? No. I'm asking how the OP went from calarts sketchbook tier, to legit tumblr garbage dumpster tier. So think carefully now and reflect on why you're so upset because me posting my work has absolutely nothing to do with the question I'm asking tard.

[Anonymous No.4470150]

>>4470136
But what if they're used to doing sketches but not painting? Wouldn't that make paintings inherently worse than the sketches?

[Anonymous No.4470161]

>>4470140
Thank you for the clarification

[Anonymous No.4470186]

>>4470141
im telling you to post your work because i know youre a /beg/ tier shitter who would rather make shitty threads tearing other people down than take the time to improve yourself FAGGOT

[Anonymous No.4470189]

>>4470186
false. True: You're the beg tier shitter.
fag.

[Anonymous No.4470191]

>>4470133
> 1585969906175.png

nice try anon

[Anonymous No.4470194]

>>4470191
what does that mean? I don't speak code.

[Anonymous No.4470216]

>>4470136
I disagree. A lot of people's sketches often look better than fully colored pieces because their skill at drawing is greater than their painting technique and understanding of color. On top of that she's using two different mediums, digital painting has a much different learning curve from pencil on paper.

[Anonymous No.4470218]

>>4470140
But you see "diverse" just means non white. Black Panther was celebrated for being "hella diverse" for having a 90% black cast. Which is literally the opposite of diverse.
Also worth noting that in clown world diversity, not unity is our strength.
It's all so tiresome.

[Anonymous No.4470219]

>>4470189
so post your work. i can tell because you've dont nothing but type instead of simply posting a quick sketch and proving me wrong. :3

[Anonymous No.4470223]

>>4470219
you first. Cause you started it, and also from the way you type you seem like a fat woman.

[Anonymous No.4470224]

>>4470194
file name shows the image was saved from forechin, probably another /ic/ thread, instead of being made by the anon that uploaded it

all images uploaded to 4chan have such number filenames; >>4470140 has the "visible" filename tenor_(7).gif, but its actual filename is now 1586101590523.gif

the visible filename is what it was called on your computer, the actual filename is what it gets called when you save it to your computer from 4chan

the anon i replied to has the visible filename 1585969906175.png, which means it was saved like that to his computer, which means it was saved without renaming from 4chan

[Anonymous No.4470256]

>>4470223
>you first

pussy. what so when i do you can just ignore me an never post anything once you see that im better than you? lol. i already got my answer though so thanks :x

[Anonymous No.4470257]

>>4470224
wow cool. I didn't know this thanks for the explanation.

[Anonymous No.4470263]

>>4470224
>spoonfeeding newfags

haha i wish 4chan was reddit too

[Anonymous No.4470268]

>>4470256
how're you calling me a pussy when you don't want to post your work either. Wtf. You're making no sense here. Just go white knight something else ffs.

[Anonymous No.4470288]

Better question is when will the army of Loish wannabes end

[Anonymous No.4470292]

>>4470268
because i called you out and now you're sweating and going "n-no you f-first" after saying you were better than me. talk shit get hit little nigger, post up.

[Anonymous No.4470299]

>>4470268
Typical /ic/ crab.

[Anonymous No.4470313]

>>4470083
I think it’s just the colours and the flash animation quality digital rendering you are objecting to. Not the skills demonstrated on the right

[Anonymous No.4470341]

>>4470083
because the sketches on right were made with ref and the paitning was from imagination i think didnt watch video, so that excplains why the sketches are more "correct" but when going back to memory drawing she regressed to that tumblr shit

100 sketches fromr ef wont do much, only a practise of recalling the ref from memory + the skecthing of said ref then again recalling form memory, that is an exercise that will ingrain the info into your brain, but just sketching from ref and nothing else will improve tecnical ability but wont help your imagination work

thats basically it, imagination vs ref, done answer

[Anonymous No.4470347]

>>4470292
no, but I'm going to be drawing like this in the next 3 months.

[Anonymous No.4470352]

>>4470341
this, all 100 heads can be found on that ahmed aldoori's pinterest. Was a challenge he did and many others followed

https://www.pinterest.ca/aaldoori/portrait/

goes to show that drawing from reference without practicing drawing from memory isn't good, as it will make you draw like pic related.

[Anonymous No.4470353]

>>4470347
>that's his goal

OOF

[Anonymous No.4470385]

>>4470218
Shit man, diversity fags are so far up their own ass they can't see the irony in their sameface. I live in the east mediterranean, which means I see all kinds of faces, from pearly white skin with blue hair and blue eyes to swarthy, dark haired with monobrows and every combination inbetween I rarely see blacks but when I do they are full african. This is great from inspiration, you actually see different faces with different stories to tell. When I see these tumblr drawings I just see a hilariously forced attempt at capturing the "unseen everyday faces" while their mixed ass faces are the only thing portrayed in tumblr. Picrel is a collage of an artist's pieces from my country. Tell me which one looks more diverse and interesting, this or urban artsy mixed guy in his 20s #56952?

[Anonymous No.4470389]

>>4470385
>blue hair
Of course I had to fuck it up, *blonde

[Anonymous No.4470401]

It's simple: the artist has bad taste. If they liked better things, they'd strive for more appealing art

[Anonymous No.4470403]

>>4470083
My guess is that the right is from ref and the left from imagination

[Anonymous No.4470433]

>american """art""""
honestly cannot tell if she sucks or if she's just drawing accurate images of americans.

[Anonymous No.4470436]

>>4470403
This.

[Anonymous No.4470442]

>>4470433
Name one objective thing wrong with right (or even left) other than subject matter.

Hard mode: other than personal style

[Anonymous No.4470462]

>>4470442
perspective on top left right side is wonky as hell because they don't know how to draw a head tilting back slightly. alternatively though, there might be nothing wrong and it could just be a really ugly non-white woman with a super goofy face because I've seen some goblinos who look kind of similar to that.

[Anonymous No.4470463]

>>4470401
>good taste = being appealing to me or masses
So, do we agree that the creators of Marvel have the best taste in the universe? I wonder how retards like you manage to exist with this kind of double think where they reject mass appeal but at the same time go apeshit whenever they see something they don't like.

[Anonymous No.4470495]

>>4470083
Clicked it and just KNEW she had an instagram. It's not tumblr it's the instagram style. You're competing against women who get botox and lip injections and are always trying to out do each other with the next 3 hour makeup lewk, so if you want your art to compete, you're basically a more exaggerated version of what they want. The place is inundated with selfies, so your art has to be a headshot to make sense.

[Anonymous No.4470503]

>>4470083
Interdasting... its actually a redraw contest. I wonder if anons here can do better than them?

[Anonymous No.4470521]

>>4470503
why did she change her race?

[Anonymous No.4470524]

>>4470462
Brand name nothing else. Why do you think retards buy gucci shoes or clothes? They buy it because it was made by a well known company.

[Anonymous No.4470527]

>>4470521
I can't tell what the original race is (hapa?) but the OP looks like a la creatura mongrel mix

[Anonymous No.4470534]

>>4470462
Holy kek you are right, it's way worse than I initially thought. The face is tilted slightly while the rest of the head is tilted a lot, it's basicly picrel

[Anonymous No.4470535]

>>4470527
This was the original pic that the host wanted people to redraw, and the artist in OP must've had a go at it.

[Anonymous No.4470542]

Because the one in the left is copying a reference in their style, and the ones in the right were drawn from imagination.

[Anonymous No.4470547]

>>4470542
Other way around amigo, the one on the left looks worse than all of the drawings on the right.

[Anonymous No.4470589]

ask her to draw any head that isn't in 3/4, profile, or front and she will shit herself

[Anonymous No.4470616]

>>4470087

[Anonymous No.4470636]

>>4470083
>the ugly feared tumblr style
What are the main characteristics of this style aside from obvious SJWism?

[Anonymous No.4470687]

>>4470218
No one praises the BP itself, in a vacuum, for being "hella diverse," why do people misunderstand this really simple point. They praise it for being diverse in the context of a vastly white film industry. So diverse as in, white movies, black movies, Chinese movies, Indian movies, Korean movies, Italian movies--that's diverse. This in fact slots in nicely with the anti-multicutural "everybody has a place as long as we don't mix" worldview, if any of those types would ever attempt to appreciate the actual argument being made instead of the strawman.

[Anonymous No.4470695]

>>4470636
it's the celebration of ugliness in this very unexplained and proud way. rather than an ugly drawing with the trappings of ugliness (character wears rags or tribal attire to signal to the viewer that their unpleasant appearance comes from their primitive background or their extreme poverty and hard-living) it's instead a very ugly often racially ambiguous character being portrayed in a way that signals to the viewer that they should be expecting to see beauty.

it's that subversion of the expectation that creates such a jarring reaction. You're told by the composition and other visual cues that this is a good looking character and yet your mind tells you the exact opposite when you look at the character's face

[Anonymous No.4470722]

>>4470695
Sort of like midget porn?

[Anonymous No.4470736]

>>4470687
yts gotta cope somehow

[Anonymous No.4470743]

>>4470108
>claims somebody is being butthurt
>posts assblasted response like this

????

[Anonymous No.4471274]

>>4470687
I sometimes wonder how people can be so dense and ignore the obvious reality of things, thanks for bringing some common sense to this board.

[Anonymous No.4471446]

>>4470687
>>4471274

Actually only fuckheads praise that fucking tedious, obvious, transparent “we wuz” turd.
No one who understands what’s going on praises that film for any of those reasons you outline either.
People who truly understand AND praise that pandering turd celebrate the purposeful, targeted, strategic denigration of Whites, while elevating useful idiot minorities in a disastrous climate anti-white, anti-straight, anti-religious, anti-freedom full-blown fucking mind control.
So shut your fucking dumb mouth and fuck your naive, cancerous unoriginal opinions.

[Anonymous No.4471491]

>>4471446
Imaging chimping out this hard over a fucking cape movie. And a /pol/rat calling anybody original while repeating the most banal white nationalist youtube comment screed? Hey, you're right. Black Panther is a braindead Marvel flick, it won't save black people or anything, and it's certainly pandering. But you're also a retard who can't into subtlety or basic reasoning. I'm literally trying to help you better understand your opponent's position so you can argue more effectively, and you bite my head off. Die in your filthy echo chamber along with your retarded ideas then.

[Anonymous No.4471580]

>>4471491
There was no subtlety or basic reasoning in your “muh vastly white film industry” fucking bullshit.
You don’t help me understand my opponents position. Their position is shallow and stupid and easy to fucking understand, and my comment still stands.
So fuck you and your stupid intentions.

[Anonymous No.4471582]

>>4471491
Imagine saying White Nationalist unironically and thinking you’re insightful.

[Anonymous No.4471597]

>>4471580
You're so emotional.
>>4471582
What do you call yourself then? Are white nationalists ashamed of that term these days or something? Update me.

[Anonymous No.4471619]

>>4470140
One of the more spot-on critiques on /ic/.

It's sad to see it in works of people like Loish and Pernille Orum; they seem to be one-trick ponies who draw the same melodramatic caricatures of one woman over and over again.

[Anonymous No.4471630]

>>4471597

>emotional
White genocide and the degradation and destruction of glorious Western civilization is annoying, yeah. Little virtue signaling faggots helping it along in current year theinking they’re insightful are annoying yeah. Especially in art. Fuck.

Nobody who knows what they are talking about label themselves as anything of the sort and only honeytraps “organize” . So fuck off. If anything the people who notice and understand whats going on <i>may</i> identify as somewhere on the spectrum of conservatism or the “right”. Mainly as a shorthand for convenience. Philosophically, insofar as there are any ideologues there is too much variation and internal debate to bother sorting it out. If it isn't practical it isn't useful.
Just trying to help you understand your opposition bro.

[Anonymous No.4471650]

>>4471630
>White genocide

Don't get high and mighty and moral with me while spouting this conspiracy theory garbage. I don't want you to think I'm amenable to any idea no matter how bizarre. Nobody except your own takes you seriously, you're a laughingstock. I'll call you a white nationalist because that's what you ARE, and I don't acknowledge any of your code words designed to conceal that fact. It was my mistake in assuming you could be reasoned with just because you didn't come in dropping slurs. Now go "philosophize" with other white nationalists.

[Anonymous No.4471664]

>>4471650
What a cheesy fucking normie.
Go watch some more msm.
If you’re White you are really fucking disgustingly stupid.
Imagine saying “conspiracy theory” about fucking blatantly obvious truth. Even mothers and grandmothers are starting to go “you know, dropping birthrates, MASS immigration, mainstreaming anti-White rhetoric and ceding power over all institutions to people that hate us might have been a mistake.

Christ.

[Anonymous No.4471667]

>Thread instantly gets derailed by redditniggers and /pol/tourists
Its all so tiresome

[Anonymous No.4471678]

>>4470224
What if he uses 4chan X nigga? All my images turn into code when i upload them because i don't want faggots knowing how i name my shit

[Anonymous No.4471680]

>>4471664
I don't give a fuck that you're a white nationalist or that grannies are white nationalists too. It's this dishonest bullshit game that your variety of white nationalist plays where you're too much of a deceitful pussy to just say what you are, and to say things plainly for what they are. You know your ideology looks bad, so you think changing the labels will fool all but the most impressionable teenagers and dumb people. It's the concealment of truth and the rhetoric games you play. No one will ever take your meme ideology seriously except other gullible idiots who badly want to see space aliens where there are none. Get fucked.

[Anonymous No.4471681]

>>4471667
>/pol/ tourist.

Could probably draw circles around you. And you probably talk to me everyday without knowing it. I only hose down virtue signaling furries from time to time on here.
Otherwise i’m pretty chill.

[Anonymous No.4471690]

>>4471680
Oo baby times are changing and you don’t even see it coming. My point and grannies and mothers is that normal people are seeing whats right in front of their fucking eyes and graduallybare losing their fear of being called racists. In fact it’s losing its stigmatizing power every fucking day. And smarmy little liberal fuckers like you pretend not to see this and seem to unironically think they are the smart ones. You dont get that it doesnt matter what you call us and I only answered you about how we categorize ourselves (which we don’t) because you asked.
Imagine getting all your opinions from liberals and the fucking media.
How do you even face yourself?

[Anonymous No.4471697]

>hOlLyWoOd iS EvIl gUiSe!
>ThEy wAnT To dEsTrOy wHiTe pEpUl aNd mAkE Us aLl tRaNnY LoVeRs!
>CeLeBrItY CuLtUrE Is dYiNg aNd tHe mSm iS TrYiNg tO SuPpReSs mY FaVoRiTe jEwTuBeRs!
>WhItE GeNoCiDe iS ReAl...
>WhAt u cAlLiNg mE A ReTaRd!?
>lOl tRiGgErEd mUcH?
Go back to /pol/ faggot.

[Anonymous No.4471705]

>>4471690
>In fact it’s losing its stigmatizing power every fucking day.
>You dont get that it doesnt matter what you call us
>how we categorize ourselves (which we don’t)

Goddamn the mental gymnastics. So it doesn't matter what I call you, "racist" is losing its stigma, and you don't categorize yourselves? But "white nationalist" is somehow a naughty term, enough to trigger you. How's that work out? I'll believe the times are a-changing "when white nationalist" is no longer a naughty word and your kind doesn't have to stick to shade like vampires. Deal? Don't answer!

[Anonymous No.4471710]

>>4470087
Came here to post exactly that.

People who focus too much in ~le diverstiy of beauty~ end up not having any personal standard of beauty, so they just put facial features on a head and think that'll make it human.

If she could draw human-looking blacks or chinks, that would at least show she learned something, but nope, it's all a hotpot of aimless "exotic" facial features.

[Anonymous No.4471741]

>>4471705
You’re actually squirling around trying to act like you know shit, and I’m answering every question directly.
You know I’m right and you’re a fucking faggot.
No one has to own terms their enemies place on them in propaganda.
And it is propaganda that you have been brainwashed with and that you are spouting and it is not going to help you in any way.

[Anonymous No.4471746]

>>4471697
Lol lookit you trying to be cool.
I betcha I can draw circles around you faggot.
And i dont draw fucking Japanese porn cartoons like you fucking losers.

[Anonymous No.4471750]

>>4471597
White Nationalism is retarded term. White is not a nation. What does it even mean? Is there a Yellow Nationalism, or Black Nationalism, or Prussian Blue Nationalism?

[Anonymous No.4471753]

>>4471746
Pyw then. Otherwise you're just talking shit. You're not ASHAMED of your work being associated with /pol/shit, are you?

[Anonymous No.4471757]

>>4471750
>Is there a Yellow Nationalism, or Black Nationalism, or Prussian Blue Nationalism?
You're memeing me right? Yes Black Nationalism is very much real. Have you ever heard of Malcolm X? The Black Panther party? Yellow Nationalism is not real because yellow isn't a race. White nationalists argue there *should* be a white nation. Black nationalists argue there *should* be a black nation. In the simplest terms.

[Anonymous No.4471759]

dafuq is going on.

[Anonymous No.4471764]

>>4471746
you do know this is a website largely centered around weeb shit right?

[Anonymous No.4471767]

>>4471757
No, I honestly don't understand. Nationalism is about nation. One can be Russian Nationalist, Japanese Nationalist, even Canadian Nationalist. What the fuck is White Nationalism?
I don't get it about Black Nationalism. Niggers have multitude of nations, no such thing as Black nation.

[Anonymous No.4471769]

>>4471746
>And i dont draw fucking Japanese porn cartoons
Then why are you here?

[Anonymous No.4471782]

>>4471767
So you see why it's a retarded ideology not based in reality. But that's what it's called and what it's about nevertheless. And don't let larping codeword fags like that /pol/rat fool you otherwise. It's not smart, there is no philosophy, it's "American South segregated water fountains, but for a whole country." Despite there being no historical precedent for something so ridiculously impractical.

[Anonymous No.4471786]

>>4470521
It's fetish tumblr artist have for some reason. They've done it to every anime character that crosses the frame and it drives me up the goddamn wall

[Anonymous No.4471787]

>>4470224
also, if a filename is 'photo.jpg', 99% chance it was uploaded by a degenerate phoneposter

[Anonymous No.4471812]

>>4470140
Well, the challenge list the references by age groups and difficulties.
Pic related is in the video near the end, when it gets more difficult and the face has more variety.
Not that I defend her. It looks bad though.

[Anonymous No.4471836]

>>4471767
>>4471750
>What the fuck is White Nationalism?
Eugenics being disguised by retards.

[Anonymous No.4471870]

>>4471782
No, all my qualms is about the term, it's retarded. Since it is retarded, it most likely means something equally retarded.
But having said that, American citizens are free to do whatever they like to fellow citizens within their borders, as far as I'm concerned.

>>4471836
This confuses me even more.

Fuck it I'll be better off draw something instead of inquiring into American politics.

[Anonymous No.4471919]

>>4470083
OP show your art.

[Anonymous No.4471923]

>>4470083
They prolly used references for the right and it still shows they aren't great. The left is them straight tryna drall from they head

[Anonymous No.4471971]

>>4471870
>This confuses me even more.
A long time ago a select group of white Europeans in the US thought they where superior to everyone else and treated everyone they deemed not white as trash, this included Irish people who where thought of as white Negroes.

Then during WW2 came the Nazis trying to say they where a special type of white people descended from gods, they thought they lost their powers through race mixing that diluted their genetic code and that through selective breeding could reach this godhood once again, this is called eugenics.

Eventually these retarded ideas of having superior genetics where adopted by NeoNazis and white supremacists (retards) in the US to justify all their dumb racist ideas, instead of thinking they where descended from gods they just thought being "white" was superior.

These days you have the same morons rebranding Eugenics as "Race Realism" or some shit and claiming the US needs to stay majority white by force for it to survive, often these retards try to say they are just trying to save the country and want to protect the traditional values from being changed by foreigners. So they get labeled "White Nationalist" as they start by bitching about immigration then whine about race mixing later.

[Anonymous No.4472112]

>>4471836
Eugenics outside of racial eugenics has a legitimately better argument that white nationalism.

Fucking hell thread derailed

[Anonymous No.4472139]

>>4472112
>thread derailed
Tumblr faces look like shit

[Anonymous No.4472143]

>>4472139
Thank you for getting it back on track. Fuck Tumblr art.

[Anonymous No.4472145]

>>4471971
Whites are certainly not superior, we have Japs and Chinks as a decisive arguments against it.
Niggers on the other hand are defective, as history shows again and again.
>white Europeans
"white" is redundant.

[Anonymous No.4472156]

>>4472145
>we have Japs
Japs are considered white by some white supremacist groups, including branches of the KKK.
>Niggers on the other hand are defective, as history shows again and again.
You do not watch professional US sports do you?
>"white" is redundant.
No, because certain "white" Europeans considered other "white" Europeans as not being really "white".

>>4472143
They ruined Marvel comics
Good thing the industry is dead now.

[Anonymous No.4472160]

>>4470087
do you like being a racist?

[Anonymous No.4472174]

>>4472156
No, I'm not watching any sports, except maybe Olympics when I'm at parents'. IIRC niggers are very good at running, and whites at shooting.
>some whites are not white, but some non-whites are whites
wat. fuck that retarded shit, I'm out of here.

[Anonymous No.4472360]

>>4472160
It’s amazingly freeing to be so honest for a change.
Errybody is fucking racist, including you.

[Anonymous No.4472375]

>>4472156
>imagine thinking the KKK is populated by anyone other than feds.

[Anonymous No.4472378]

Anyway, tumblr art.
Could have been a good thread until we were so rudely interrupted by that virtue signaling tumblr-ass faggot.

[Anonymous No.4472383]

> Japs are considered white by

Nobody.
Sometimes they are sometimes affectionionately called “honorary” for a variety of reasons - including ironically and by dudes who dig Asian babes.

[Anonymous No.4472387]

> Japs are considered white by

Nobody.
Sometimes they are affectionately called “honorary” for a variety of reasons - including “ironically” and by dudes who dig Asian babes.

[Anonymous No.4472395]

>>4470463
Hey it's okay to draw tumblr noses and goblin chins but don't expect a like from me woman