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i gave up after 6 years trying.
AMA

>> No.4437368

>>4437367
What does your art look like now

>> No.4437371

>>4437367
Why are you such a pussy, it's only been 6 years

>> No.4437372

>>4437367
What do you do now? Did you finally get a day job?

>> No.4437373

>>4437367
Pyw?

>> No.4437374

You'll probably regret it till you're 70
You'll live life seeing good art all around you knowing you could never be a part of it
You okay with that?

>> No.4437384

>>4437368
/beg/
can copy photos semi decently but beg-tier from imagination

>>4437371
that argument would work if i didn't stagnate for majority of the time. back when i started drawing the slow progress was enough to keep me going, but after hitting a ceiling and stagnating for many years it has become obvious it's not going to get better than this.

>>4437372
i'm a neet

>>4437373
no

>>4437374
i don't thing i'm going to make it till 70. I've already rage deleted all my art folders and have started to resent the artists i used to look up to.

>> No.4437388

>>4437384
>he thinks there's such a thing as limits in this world
Pathetic. Keep drawing and you'll blow past your ceiling easily. Stop being such a weak ass faggot in front of my eyes.

>> No.4437389

>>4437388
stop living in fantasy.

>> No.4437390

>>4437384
lmao

>> No.4437392

>>4437367
pyw

>> No.4437393

>>4437389
You're the one living in a fantasy. A fantasy in which you think you can just say "I tried and it wasn't enough" then just give up. You want to believe that's okay and that's why you made this thread too. Stop being a fucking pussy and draw more. We live in the real world where progress demands your fate. Not silly things like false perceptions and raging emotions.

>> No.4437395

>>4437367
how old are you?

>> No.4437396

>>4437395
26

>> No.4437398

>>4437393
This tbqh
Seeing >>4437384
>can copy photos semi decently but beg-tier from imagination
Makes me think the problem is more a lack of efficient study or applying yourself than some innate lack of talent. It's a problem a lot of people who mainly copy photos have I think. I keep hearing about people who do endless studies and never learn, while artists who do cartoons/animu while doing studies on the side usually make a lot more progress. Your issue is probably just a lack of drawing from imagination, so you're weak at it

>> No.4437401

>>4437396
Do you have any plans to return to art? Like what are you even going to do for the rest of your life now? Watching anime and reading manga and games. Wouldn't that get boring after a long time.

>> No.4437409

>>4437398
semi-decent copying of photos is a skill you can have a couple months in to drawing. he's just /beg/ overall from the sound of it.

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>>4437401
i don't know. just want to die at the moment

>> No.4437450

>>4437412
Honestly not the kind of guy to be giving advice. But cheer up my dude. Not everyone is lucky enough to be a neet. You're still relatively young and whatever you want to do I'm pretty sure you'll be able to do it.

Think about the positive things you have already. A roof over your head, parents that feed you, and a lot of time on your hands to be thinking about what you want to do. Everyone goes through struggles, and even though you've been doing this shit for 6 years, look at Kim Jung gi. He's been rage drawing since he was 6, and only got his first commission when he was 27. That's hell of a longer time than you've been at it anon. The only difference between him and you is that he didn't give up.
It's ok to take breaks, and everyone burns out. Take a step back, breathe a bit and get back on track anon. I believe in you.

>> No.4437452

>>4437384
>i'm a neet
admit it you didnt even try you just masturbated and played video games for 6 years and maybe drew once a week

>> No.4437491

>>4437367
How much time did you spend actually trying to draw from imagination

>> No.4437493

can you post a sidebyside of your work at the start and the 'end' of the 6 years?
be interesting to see and hell, might put some stuff into perspective for you

>> No.4437495

>>4437384
How are you sure you were even practicing properly?

Yes, it's 6 years down the drain, but it doesn't mean you're a perma-NGMI.

>> No.4437496

>>4437367
Do you think you'll regret this decision when you're older?

>> No.4437524

>>4437367

I'm not reading anything in this thread until you post your pyw.

>> No.4437525

Catposters are cancer

>> No.4437526

>>4437496
Not op but i regret trying for art.
So many years wnd I'm still shit

>> No.4437720

>>4437526
the feeling is mutual my friend.

>> No.4437773

>>4437526
>>4437526
same here.
Dedicated so many yrs and hrs to art and im still terrible and have nothing to show for it.

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>>4437384
>I've already rage deleted all my art folders and have started to resent the artists i used to look up to.
Absolutely based

>> No.4437870

>>4437526
>>4437720
>>4437773
This is what happens when all you fucking do is polish turds instead of actively learning

>> No.4437877

>>4437367
>skateboarding
>trying to learn an advanced trick
>keep falling down
>other more experienced people give me tips on how to do it
>literally do the same thing I did before without changing anything
>upset that I am doing literally the same thing
>proceed to keep doing same thing

I gave up after 6 years trying
AMA

>> No.4437879

>>4437367
Why are you begging for people to tell you to keep drawing
Do you even enjoy doing it

>> No.4437882

>>4437367
based ngmi

>> No.4437883
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4437883

as a /beg/ these people scare me i dont want to turn out like them

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4437895

>>4437367
>i gave up after 6 years trying.
Trying to do what, exactly?

>> No.4437932

>not even a single piece of work posted
makes sense u gave up tbqhfam

>> No.4437954

>>4437367
Since you were a neet. I assume you were studying fundies 6-8 hrs a day, right?

>> No.4437955

>>4437883
whenever you feel like you are not improving, always think of the skateboard analogy

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4437958

>>4437955
whats the skateboard analogy

>> No.4437971

>>4437958
that people who ride skateboards never improve their skill if they never try to, and even when they try to execute a more advanced move they must keep trying different things if they expect to see different results, even if it hurts them in doing so.

>> No.4437974

>>4437367
DO YOU BELIEVE IN TALENT NOW???

>> No.4438243

>>4437870
What are you even talking about?
I dont turd polish. I never even finish anything because I end up hating it.

I also may have some kind learning disability. It's very difficult if not impossible to self teach myself any skills.

>> No.4438250

Cool. Go learn code now and get a job.

>> No.4438272

>>4438250
Learn 2 code is a meme, and is pointless boomer rhetoric.

>> No.4438857

>>4438250
>Just learn to code bro lmao
Who exactly started this bot reply?

>> No.4438896

what's the last thing you drew?

>> No.4438947
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4438947

Nobody cares. Stop trying to be an emotional vampire and go back to playing your video games. Not everybody has the spark and it is clear you do not posses it.

>> No.4438953

>>4438250
I regret becoming a programmer even more than I regret being a failure at art.

>> No.4438957

Did you fall for the Loomis meme?

>> No.4438961

>>4438272
>>4438857
leave normalfags

>> No.4438972
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4438972

We're on the same boat then. Started digital drawing 6 years ago and have made mediocre improvements. Sometimes I feel down whenever I see artists who started at the same time as me and are now reaping their rewards. Recently, I started to not care anymore (I still do) and just focus on my own journey. The fact that other people can create great art means we can also do the same. However, it may take a lot longer, years or perhaps decades. Besides, atleast I have something to occupy myself with until I become senile.

>> No.4438976

>>4437384
>resent the artists i used to look up to
Which ones and why? Do you feel lied to, or just resent the fact they are out of your reach?

>> No.4438979

>>4438972
Can I ask how you practice so that I don’t end up the same way? Also, are you really comparing your current art to what you did six years ago, or what you did a month ago? Because you might be forgetting how far you’ve actually come if you just think about how you haven’t improved since yesterday vs looking at where you were when you started.

>> No.4438999

>>4437367
Are you Nosebro?

>> No.4439003

>>4437452
This is the only answer. If I was lucky enough to not have to work I’d be painting like Michaelangelo right now, and be super jacked. My greatest jumps in skill came when I didn’t have to work, and could focus ONLY only LEARNING and IMPROVING my art.

>> No.4439011
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4439011

>>4438979
I did improve and I'm glad I did. However, I'm disappointed with how I did not consistently drew this past six years. Had I committed my time to studying drawing instead of video games and tv shows, I'd be further than where I am right now.
>Can I ask how you practice so that I don’t end up the same way?
I suggest placing yourself in the shoes of a beginner who's eager to learn. There are many times where I was too prideful, I'd only glance at a reference of a muscle or a body part and grind away never to look at it again. I would not analyse it because I was 'above' it or so I thought.
Also, don't focus too much on one area alone. This six years I was focused on anime styled human figures, using only fundies as a leverage. As a result, I have zero knowledge on other areas such as perspective and inorganic objects. Values still elude me to this day, I maybe able to do draw lines, but I am not able to paint values. >>4438933
Lastly, mileage. Draw as much as you can, I have only improved by virtue of time (6 years of occasional drawing) and not by virtue of hard work (drawing every waking moment).

>> No.4439255

>>4439011
Holy shit. You're the boxes guy I talked with in the /beg thread. Had no idea you've been drawing for 6 years. 2018 seems to be a turning point especially like that greyscale picture of the girl. Very ilya-like. Can I ask how old you are?

>> No.4439269

>>4439255
Fancy meeting you here. I'm 23 years old.
>2018 seems to be a turning point especially like that greyscale picture of the girl
Yes that particular piece is entirely different from what I usually do. I really forced myself to get into values. However, it wasnt made using the conventional blending of values. I did it by filling an entire layer with dark gray value, underneath it is a layer thats entirely white. The process involved erasing the dark grays where I think light hit the figure, revealing the white layer beneath it. The end result is excellent but the method itself is not sustainable, took me 5 days.

>> No.4439274

>>4439269
5 days or 5 years It's the end result that matters. I like your attitude for improvement. Thanks for sharing your progression. Hope to see you improve more in the coming days anon.

>> No.4439281

>>4439274
Thanks anon. You too, improve and develop your skills.

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4439291

>>4437367
POST YOUR WORK

>> No.4439308
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4439308

Turn 27 this year...
Haven't improved at all in almost a decade.
It makes me think that there may be something wrong with my brain when I see all these 18-23 yr olds that draw so much better than I can, but then again I'm beginning to not really care anymore.
>inb4 pyw

Not like it will really make any difference, but i'm in a masochistic mood rn so have at it

>> No.4439309

>>4439308
Better than a lot of /beg/ it looks like. When's the last time you pushed yourself and drew something that you KNEW you would fail at but wanted to try anyway?

>> No.4439312

>>4439309
Can't really remember. I only draw when I feel like it which isn't often, and when I try I can never commit to anything.

I end up losing interest or hating it half way through and scrapping

>> No.4439350

>>4439308
why is the file deleted for me?

>> No.4439351

>>4439312
Well there's your problem right there. Nothing wrong with your brain. You need to both put in the time and also force yourself out of your comfort zone. I think you have the ability to keep improving if you really wanted to.

>> No.4439352

>>4439350
I think he deleted it a few minutes after posting it.

>> No.4439353

>hasnt improved in a decade
>only draws when he feels like it (rarely)
>never commits to anything
>thinks it must be age or intelligence

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4439363

>>4439353
Then what else could it be?
Im dying to know.

>> No.4439368

>>4439351
I dont think so.
The thing is im not getting any younger and its getting alot harder for me to learn things.

>> No.4439370

>>4439368
was it age 25 that your brain begins to decline and you lose neuroplasticity? Does that mean It'll be noticeably harder to learn drawing after that age?

>> No.4439373

>>4439368
Ok you can be a based ngmi then it's ok

>> No.4439375

>>4439370
Obviously it wont be the same as my degradation due to several other factors playing a role in your overall cognitive performance.
I was never really that smart to negon with so its much more noticeable.

>> No.4439376

>>4439363
Are you retarded? Obviously because you
>only draw when you feel like it (rarely)
>never commit to anything

how did you miss the point

>> No.4439377

>>4439370
It's a slow decline, I wouldn't say it seriously hinders you until about 40. A quick google shows some charts for research on neuroplasticity, and while 25 is the peak its a slow curve down.

>> No.4439380

>>4439376

You justt copied what i posted and didnt make any "point".
My response was mocking your attempt at to be insightful.

>> No.4439381

>>4439376
maybe retardation really is part of his problem.

>> No.4439384

>>4439380
the "point" is that the reason you aren't improving isn't necessarily your brain, age, or intelligence (although retardation seems likely at this point) like you said but rather the fact that you don't fucking draw. How many hours a day did you average over those 10 years?

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4439388

>>4439011
Jesus

>> No.4439390

>>4439291
CUTE!

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4439392

>>4439384
>dude just draw
You arent telling me anytg8ng that I havent been told a million times before kid.
Its funny you think I dont get your "point" when your just repeating the same tired platitudes without comprehending where im coming from.
If that was all it took then we wouldnt be having this conversation.
>How many hrs a day did you avwrage in those 10 yrs?
How many pieces of bread have you eaten in your life?

>> No.4439393

>>4439392
You're right, I change my mind. It's your brain. There's something wrong with it.

>> No.4439394

>>4439393
>hes still going

>> No.4439403

>>4439393
Okay, lets get one straight here...

If you read my original post nowhere did i imply that i was confused about why i had no improvements within that time.
I know exactly why im stagnating you arrogant tart

You smugly greentexting everything as if you were highlighting my stupidity was just you being an reactionary jackass and wasting my time.

>> No.4439404

Glad i deleted that image...
Hoky fuck this place is terrible

>> No.4439418

>>4437367
Dont listen to anyone that says "just draw"
Your problem is your method of learning and practicing/studying. You need to learn the correct way to learn. Please watch some youtube videos on how to study. The methods for studying for a test and studying art overlap.
Also research Barbara oakley

You need to change something in your process, or else you'll just stay in the same place you are.

>> No.4439424

>>4439418
In this case, him "drawing rarely and only when he feels like it" is absolutely the biggest issue. So the answer is "draw more". Which isn't to say that having good practice isn't important, but actually drawing is step 1.

>> No.4439429

>>4439403
I'm not understanding, in your OP you claim its your brain and then get mad when I say it's how little you draw.

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4439438

>>4439429
>im not understanding
Clearly...

Its several reasons actually, but the grey matter in my skull is the biggest one.
Your first mistake was assuming that i didnt draw "enough" which ironically the opposite is true.
I drew so much i pretty much burned myself out...
Not that "just drawing" would actually change anything.
I already said it before, teach8ng myself new th8ngs is quite difficult if not impossuble. Its a miracle ive gotten this good actually.
>mad
Nope.
But your immediate hostility and lack of reading comprehension was annoying but not enough to make me rage.
Get over yourself, bro.
Last (you) you're going to get from me. I have work to do

>> No.4439444

>>4439438
Dude, you didn't say any of this in your OP or follow up post. You said that you thought it was your brain/intelligence. How the fuck is that a lack of reading comprehension? Holy fuck you're retarded.

>> No.4439467

>>4437367
dont care
didn't ask.

>> No.4439476

>>4439424
I can get that, but whenever someone has difficulty drawing, most of the time someone simply writes "just draw"

Just drawing is good for a first step to get into the habit of drawing, but if they take that as the final answer and believe that doing just that will make them improve, they will end up in all the threads of stagnating artists that we laugh at.

>> No.4439482

>>4439476
>Just drawing is a good first step
Exactly.
This guy hasn't taken the first step.
He should take the first step first, then he can come back and post more work and get more targeted advice.

>> No.4439505

>>4439444
Just fuck off already dude.
At this point youre just being an obtuse asshat.

>> No.4439508

>>4439505
How am I being obtuse? Respond to the content of what I said. You said you thought it was your brain, so I said it was your work ethic, and then you freaked out saying you already knew it was your work ethic. Fucking weirdo.

>> No.4439524

>>4439418
just draw [the things you're specifically struggling with after careful assessment of your previous drawings and after reviewing how other people have approached the problem to see if any of them are of use to you]

>> No.4439526

>>4439508
>How am i being obtuse
Because you clearly dont know how to read.
It has nothing to do with work ethic you mouth breathing subhuman.
Is english even your first language

>> No.4439541

>>4439526
Okay, I'll break it down for you

You:
>Haven't improved at all in almost a decade.
>It makes me think that there may be something wrong with my brain
>I only draw when I feel like it which isn't often, and when I try I can never commit to anything.

This is where I see that you're blaming your brain for your issues drawing despite self-admitting to "only drawing when you feel like it, which isn't often"

So I post, making fun of this fact, because from the content of what you posted SO FAR its obvious to any reader that its not a brain issue but a work ethic issue (BASED ON WHAT YOUVE POSTED)

Then you start bugging out saying you already know what your deficiencies are and that im not offering any 'insight', making me assume you know that its your work ethic was the issue, since THAT WAS THE CONTENT of what I posted.

So I point out that you never said you knew it was your work ethic, which is when you start bugging out about my reading comprehension and I just start to get confused because obviously you have a tenuous grasp on whats happening or how to follow a conversation.

Go ahead and let me know if I'm seeing this wrong

>> No.4439554

>>4439541
So basically you misunderstood everything i posted I thought i was somehow asking for answer to a question i didnt ask.
Great.
Now Kindly fuck off.
Srsl

>> No.4439566

>>4439554
Holy fuck there's a reason like 3 people have called you retarded in this thread and you have a self-admitted 'brain issue'. I didn't misunderstand anything, all the assumptions I made were reasonable based on the content of what you posted (which is what I tried to spell out to you in the previous post) but apparently you just cannot understand even the most basic concepts. Also, I don't give a shit if you were asking for a answer to a question, my original reply to you was to make fun of you to be a retard, not to help answer a question.

Fucking mouth breather

>> No.4439621

>>4439566
Bro youre just as retarded as i am.
Probably slightly more so.
>fucking mouthbreather
Unoriginal af.
Get some new material already.

>> No.4439626

>>4439621
Notice how you haven't responded to the actual content of my arguments in multiple messages

>> No.4439769

this is all fine and dandy but what is your response to >>4439418 op?

>> No.4439772

>>4439626
Your posts have been nothing but self admitted flaming and pointless "just draw" platitudes you sociopath.
Again, youre a retard like me for continuing to engage with a fellow retard.

>> No.4439776

>>4437367
>gave up
>wont post work
thinly veiled cry for attention PYW OR GTFO