IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART

[Anonymous No.4435050]

please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

previous >>4429899


READ THE STICKY if you need guidance.
Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

[Anonymous No.4435053]

face cute?

[Anonymous No.4435062]

Apparently I'm very bad at controlling the pressure on my tablet. Also I can't draw.

[Anonymous No.4435072]

nice sakuya butt, added to my coom folder

[Anonymous No.4435075]

>>4435053
Not bad asukafag. Keep it up

[Anonymous No.4435078]

[Anonymous No.4435140]

>>4435062
why are her boobs taking off?

[Anonymous No.4435143]

>>4435050
Oh, what an inauspicious beginning. It's not even the same version posted in the previous thread.

[Anonymous No.4435153]

>>4435053
much better than your older work


ngl, watching your progress is giving me secondhand motivation

[Anonymous No.4435156]

im back gyze, i really dont know how to draw lips, drapery or hair with ink, they end up looking so fucking stiff

[Anonymous No.4435158]

>>4435156
also shading, i dont know how to do values with ink

[Anonymous No.4435160]

>>4435050
i feel like something is missing from the paneling

[Anonymous No.4435164]

Nobody commented on my gestures in the last thread ;_;
>>4431879
>>4431882

[Anonymous No.4435166]

>>4435164
i dont think you feel the pose

[Anonymous No.4435170]

>>4435160
the middle pannel is kinda akward and the least one has way too much white space and is not dynamic enough

[Anonymous No.4435192]

Is there a specific name for this type of illustration? Is it just "limited palette"?

[Anonymous No.4435225]

>>4435140
Because they're from the moon, obviously.

[Anonymous No.4435261]

Hey decided to repaint a 2-year old wallpaper I made once. Definitely better but could still improve.

[Anonymous No.4435268]

>>4435261
the resolution

[Anonymous No.4435279]

>>4435268
I can send at full resolution, I just made a smaller resolution for the thread. If you want I'll upload full size in the morning

[Anonymous No.4435281]

Fuck bros I'm in pain.

[Anonymous No.4435296]

rate it

[Anonymous No.4435316]

>>4435050

[Anonymous No.4435318]

Today's gestures so far. Trying to focus more on gesture and proportions and less on form. Only had time for more form stuff in the 5 minute gesture.

[Anonymous No.4435321]

>>4435316
thats so fucking nasty

[Anonymous No.4435326]

>>4435318
Notes form what I've learnt:
> legs are fucking long don't be afraid to make legs long whenever you think that's the end of the leg WRONG the leg is even longer you dumb fuck stop making tiny legs
> once you find that first gesture line look for other lines that match it, half the body will have the same gesture line and that is also the perspective which helps understand the form as well

[Anonymous No.4435327]

>>4435321
Nice. Thanks

[Anonymous No.4435330]

>>4435296
> 1 fundamentals / 10

[Anonymous No.4435333]

>>4435164
Ah a fellow gesture enthusiast. These crabs don't care about gestures but know that we are the only ones in /beg/ that will make it. Fundamentals are key to success so let us grind those gestures! Gestures are the 20%.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle

[Anonymous No.4435419]

Never fucked w oils before

[Anonymous No.4435423]

I suck ass and keep getting roasted by people around me but despite my reading and practice I'm not getting any better. Well, my studies are more accurate these days but my original works and command of anatomy/lighting are garbage.

[Anonymous No.4435425]

[Anonymous No.4435428]

>>4435425

[Anonymous No.4435445]

>>4435425
>>4435428
How do I do good gestures like these? These are mine and they're shitty: >>4431879 >>4431882

[Anonymous No.4435459]

A few more gestures. 3 minutes each because I wanted to have extra time to work on some of the form.

[Anonymous No.4435460]

>>4435459
Whoops I meant 5 minutes.

[Anonymous No.4435463]

>>4435445
michael hampton
steve houston
lovelifedrawing

[Anonymous No.4435467]

>>4435459
A few days ago I was really struggling trying to connect the neck to the head, but using the power of gesture it's actually becoming pretty easy because the neck muscles pretty much always follow the gesture flow.

[Anonymous No.4435475]

Struggling with style and colors
Any advice

[Anonymous No.4435482]

2018

[Anonymous No.4435487]

>>4435482
2020..


I fucked up. so this is what happens when you dont draw at least 6-8 hours a day. and also I spent 8 mos being an alcoholic degenerate. fuck it. dont be like me. practice everyday.

[Anonymous No.4435492]

>>4435053
do some skull studies.

[Anonymous No.4435504]

>>4435482
>>4435487
It's not about drawing 8 hours a day it's about analysing and trying to improve. You obviously felt comfortable where you were at in 2018 and didn't care about fixing anything for 2 years.

[Anonymous No.4435514]

>>4435504
>it's about analysing ang trying to improve

i did. just didnt put enough effort to it.

[Anonymous No.4435524]

How does one think of new box angles? It looks like I'm starting to repeat the same angles over and over.

[Anonymous No.4435525]

>>4435524

[Anonymous No.4435535]

>>4435050
imagination during break at work

[Anonymous No.4435538]

>>4435524
Have you tried going into the 5th dimension?

[Anonymous No.4435539]

>>4435053
pretty good. getting a disney vibe

[Anonymous No.4435558]

Is there any hope for me, aside from being a degenerate?

[Anonymous No.4435570]

>>4435558
yes, definitely

[Anonymous No.4435572]

>>4435538
Not yet

[Anonymous No.4435573]

I'm reading Betty Edwards. I'm at the chapter about negative spaces.

[Anonymous No.4435574]

Tried to cell shade instead, focusing solely on the ass instead. I know im fucking up majorly somewhere. Is it the light source? The colours? Lack of understand of form? Is it the values? Understanding light itself?Is it the soft vs hard edges? I probably going to take a break from this. I just need to know where im messing up mostly in terms of rendering, So i know what i need to focus on.

[Anonymous No.4435587]

>>4435574
I think it's mostly the lightsource, also she has a skirt on top so that should make a shadow

[Anonymous No.4435593]

Plein air exercises. Also does anyone know of good books/courses on watercolor?

[Anonymous No.4435595]

>>4435593
Also this

[Anonymous No.4435599]

>>4435595
And this

[Anonymous No.4435601]

just a very rough draft so far, barely a quarter done if that. anything need attention?

[Anonymous No.4435604]

>>4435574
I would learn how shadow and light affects basic 3d objects like cylinders and spheres. Then applying it to a simplified human form. Otherwise you get this result.

[Anonymous No.4435632]

What should I do after gesture and form? Should I start working more on rendering? Facial expressions? Grind anatomy? Give me some ideas you guys.

[Anonymous No.4435639]

>>4435604
Not that Anon, but that makes me wonder if dabbling into 3d modeling will be good for improvement

[Anonymous No.4435641]

>>4435601
the hands need more work since they are the focal attention

[Anonymous No.4435642]

sooo for beginners what book should i start with for foundation
Hogarth or Loomis?

[Anonymous No.4435659]

>>4435642
Vilppu's video course.

[Anonymous No.4435669]

>>4435572
This is pretty good anon. I really like your heads

[Anonymous No.4435678]

>got my first Ko-Fi donation for this
later virgins im gmi

[Anonymous No.4435681]

>>4435538
Are there dicks there?

[Anonymous No.4435682]

>>4435669
Thanks anon, I'm working on it.

[Anonymous No.4435686]

>>4435678
If you grind gesture and work on basic perspective you could actually be pretty good anon.

[Anonymous No.4435687]

i make one drawing per month
can somebody tell me to give up

[Anonymous No.4435694]

>>4435535
Keep drawing anon. Their ears are too low. They should be at the same level as the eyes and the nose.

[Anonymous No.4435699]

>>4435687
Make two.

[Anonymous No.4435702]

>>4435687
Good going tough Anon you gotta start somewhere.

[Anonymous No.4435703]

pfffhahahhaha

[Anonymous No.4435704]

>>4435678
congrats Anon!

[Anonymous No.4435737]

>>4435050

[Anonymous No.4435740]

>>4435192
It's called talentless millennial vector based graphic designer marketing style.

[Anonymous No.4435744]

>>4435492
This is shit. Ugly face. What's up with the ear? Who knew it was possible to be worse than Asuka fag.

[Anonymous No.4435752]

making glacial progress on this
I still don't really like how this line art looks, all I'm doing is "bottom right = thicker"

[Anonymous No.4435758]

Some spiderverse thing that was originally a full body drawing. Just did the upper body cause I couldn't get the pose right and got frustrated.

[Anonymous No.4435762]

hadn't rendered anything for 6 months, pleasantly surprised with how it went.
What's your most recent "hey that wasn't so bad" moment, anons?

[Anonymous No.4435765]

>>4435762
Pretty happy with all my gestures from today.>>4435459

[Anonymous No.4435770]

>>4435758
that looks pretty solid but watch your edges, see how you did the jaw line with three nice distinct straights, why isnt that happening in the hood or the explosion, or everywhere for that matter? Good colors and nice use of the chromatic abberation but keep your shapes under control lad.

[Anonymous No.4435772]

How do I even get to a /beg/ tier level? help /IC/!

[Anonymous No.4435773]

>>4435772
you draw loomis head but you place eyes, nose and other shit randomly on it

[Anonymous No.4435778]

>>4435773
The dude I was watching treated those as secondary features/props, he spoke of them as if they'd draw themselves in once I get the loomis head correctly.
This is why I hate art tutors. They be like a line here, an ellipse there and you fill in the details. Details my foot!

[Anonymous No.4435780]

>>4435770
Thanks bud! I'll keep those in mind.

[Anonymous No.4435786]

>>4435778
See all those lines you draw across the head shape? Those are horizontal guides yet you drew the mouth and nose and eyes diagonal. Why didn’t you follow the guides?

[Anonymous No.4435791]

Sorry I have autism I can't upload a fucking single picture because "file is too large"

[Anonymous No.4435792]

>>4435772
Try again.

[Anonymous No.4435797]

Critique the traps and the sternomastoids of pic related and this post >>4435572

[Anonymous No.4435803]

Can I make it ?

[Anonymous No.4435805]

>>4435803
This is actually not bad and is somewhat appealing. Some points to address though. Symbol drawn eyes, chicken scratching especially at the shoulders, other boob's smaller (at that perspective, they should be the same size) and her ribcage tapers off too early. Also, fix the outer shape of the ear, it should be slightly slanted.

[Anonymous No.4435812]

>>4435805
Thanks for the feedback, I try to draw from imagination. The eyes and ribcage size are on purpose, and yeah I struggle a lot with the shape/positioning of the ear and boobs in perspective.

[Anonymous No.4435817]

Please criticize me. I suck at value btw.

[Anonymous No.4435818]

>>4435817
Ref

[Anonymous No.4435820]

How can i improve from here?

[Anonymous No.4435824]

>>4435820
Ignore the swirly shit btw. Phones camera sucks and I was messing around with stuff that would make the lines less blury.

[Anonymous No.4435828]

>>4435820
These are really good. Next step is to incorporate values to your figures. Or dive into anatomy.
>>4435817
Turn off the saturation of your reference image and compare with yours. Youre not using full range of values.

[Anonymous No.4435839]

>>4435740
S E E T H I N G

[Anonymous No.4435862]

>>4435820
scan your work
stop using filters.
let's see it again.

[Anonymous No.4435870]

>>4435828
Thanks, ill probably dive into anatomy soon(tm)

>>4435862
Dont have a scanner, this is the best quality i can do.

[Anonymous No.4435884]

>>4434676
can i get help with this?

[Anonymous No.4435887]

>>4435160
Add when the contact itself happens, rather than the buildup.

[Anonymous No.4435890]

>>4435053
No, if you want to draw a cute face add thick eyelashes.

[Anonymous No.4435892]

>>4435890
No. Ignore this guy.

[Anonymous No.4435895]

>>4435828
I don't turn on the saturation of my reference image.

[Anonymous No.4435909]

Can't into anatomy or much of anything.

[Anonymous No.4435914]

>>4435792
This basically. Whenever I don't autistically measure everything my faces look retarded

[Anonymous No.4435919]

>>4435050

[Anonymous No.4435920]

>>4435772
Whenever I've tried to use the Loomis method, my faces look awful. I can't wrap my head around it.

[Anonymous No.4435935]

>>4435892
So what do you think makes a (female) face cute?

[Anonymous No.4435937]

>>4435935
largely proportion and the softness of detail.

[Anonymous No.4435939]

>>4435920
I guess to put it another way, I can't "think" in the Loomis method. I think construction makes logical sense, but I always found it made my art look even stiffer than it already does.

[Anonymous No.4435947]

>>4435939
To be perfectly honest, if you're posting in /beg/ about how using Loomis makes your faces look awful, then you probably have bigger problems than making your art appear not stiff.

[Anonymous No.4435948]

>>4435053
remember. The inner part of the eye lines up with the nostril.That ear is beautiful though. I like the hair too.
You have a bright future ahead of you, Asukaposter

[Anonymous No.4435955]

>>4435053
Sorry for mangling her ear, i think just changing proportion fixes a lot of it? you have really nice lines btw.

[Anonymous No.4435956]

>>4435947
>then you probably have bigger problems than making your art appear not stiff.

Like what?

[Anonymous No.4435969]

>>4435956
Like making your faces not look awful.
Get them ok-but-stiff, then go from there.

[Anonymous No.4435971]

>>4435969
By "awful", I mean stiff and boring. When I do original art, I can't think in terms of construction, only symbols. Let me doodle something real quick.

[Anonymous No.4435985]

>>4435737

[Anonymous No.4435999]

>>4435971
Here's a face I just doodled using construction.

[Anonymous No.4436005]

>>4435999
learn an actual construction method along with proportions, it'll go a long way.

[Anonymous No.4436006]

>>4436005
Also do photostudies of faces where you apply construction to it. It'll build up your ability to quickly lay it out.

[Anonymous No.4436010]

>>4436005
>learn an actual construction method

Mind providing examples? I just tried to go the Loomis route and it seems like most construction methods are more or less the same.

[Anonymous No.4436023]

>>4435999
you didnt even read loomis

[Anonymous No.4436024]

>>4436010
When i say learn it i mean actually make sure you know and understand it.

The proko video explains it well, if you've already watched it i'd just rewatch it and do what he says, practice just the construction a hundred times from as many angles as you can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EPNYWeEf1U

Pay attention to things like planes and proportions because they ultimately make or break a face.

[Anonymous No.4436026]

>>4435053
I think you should try to apply shadows asukafag, it will be the game changer for you

[Anonymous No.4436027]

Attempt to draw Tatsumaki

[Anonymous No.4436030]

>>4436026
Very nice

[Anonymous No.4436031]

>>4436024
I've read Loomis and watched that video and practiced but it's been a while. Just seems like I'll always have a shaky grasp of this stuff.

[Anonymous No.4436035]

If I'm just interested in learning to draw because I'm beginning architecture classes after summer, should I still do loomis?

[Anonymous No.4436036]

>>4436035
Not if you dont care about character art.

[Anonymous No.4436038]

>>4436031
Not really sure what to tell you then, have you done 100? Have you counted?

With enough iterations im pretty sure anyone can crack it.

[Anonymous No.4436040]

>>4436038
>have you done 100? Have you counted?

Just 100 of the same thing from the same angle? Or a different angle with 100 drawings each?

[Anonymous No.4436047]

>>4435999
Like I was saying, you're not at the level where you should be worried about being stiff or not. Put more focus on making things look correct rather than making them look pretty. Your main goal right now is to just accumulate mileage. I won't tell you that you have to follow the Loomis method, in fact I encourage you to experiment and figure out what works for you.

[Anonymous No.4436049]

>>4436040
If a hundred from different angles didn't work then just do as many from the same angle until it looks good, then do it from as many angles as you want until you feel happy.

[Anonymous No.4436053]

>>4436027
FUUUCK I don't know how to draw good looking hands

[Anonymous No.4436057]

>>4436053
>that bimbo face and giant tits
This isn't Tatsumaki

[Anonymous No.4436061]

>>4436047
I guess I figured years of doodles meant I already had some skill but clearly being able to draw things that make people laugh and being able to actually draw decently don't necessarily go hand-in-hand. Everybody still calls me an absolute beginner even though I drew for years a long time ago. Fuck, I'm not getting any younger and I want to do shit that's decent now.

[Anonymous No.4436072]

>>4436057
I don't like Japanese style lips and I didn't practice small tits

[Anonymous No.4436091]

>>4436061
It's possible to draw a lot and not improve. If you're not putting in conscious effort and identifying and attacking your mistakes, then you won't improve. It doesn't mean that you're not capable, it just means that you need to switch from doodle mode to serious mode if you want to acquire legitimate skill.

[Anonymous No.4436092]

>>4436091
Makes sense. It's just frustrating to think that despite the years I've drawn and my age that I'm still just a total beginner. The shit I do now still looks like the shit I did in high school when I think about it.

[Anonymous No.4436107]

LOOMIS
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[Anonymous No.4436144]

>>4436107
care to share the brush that you used for the background?

[Anonymous No.4436168]

>>4436053
Just finished the rendering

[Anonymous No.4436202]

>>4436144
I don't know how to share it, it's a brush I made myself on photoshop CS5

[Anonymous No.4436209]

>>4435492
Lol hi racist uncle. Please stop making those shitty chins you like to draw.

[Anonymous No.4436211]

>>4436202
Looks pretty good, save as abr and upload?

[Anonymous No.4436245]

>>4436211
ok I found how to do it

it's a brush I made to sketch it's the one I use to make the line art of those sketch but I use to paint large area too.

https://gofile.io/?c=SWcuTd

I'm looking forward to see what you can do with it.

[Anonymous No.4436265]

>>4436031
Have you read loomis or have you READ loomis? Because there is a difference. You have to actually construct your figures. Stiffness really doesn't seem to be your issue. Study the proportions that Loomis provides, then study real life. Don't fall for the bullshit "do it a hundred times" fuckery- just do it as much as you can. Obviously more practice is better, but there's no need to be autistic about it

[Anonymous No.4436316]

[Anonymous No.4436383]

Is it fine to learn drawing from scratch entirely using a drawing tablet? I'd prefer to do it that way but if using physical media is that much better I'll do it that way instead.

[Anonymous No.4436399]

>>4435050
How you guys have the motivation to start/keep drawing? I want to draw but I just can't do it...

[Anonymous No.4436406]

>>4436383
I'd really recommend using regular ass paper and pencil at first

[Anonymous No.4436409]

>>4436399
I take the first reference ( photo or drawing ) I see that I like I put it on a new photoshop canvas and I start sketching it
you can do it with pencil and paper too just force yourself to do the first stroke and the other will follow

do it everyday and after 15 days you will want to draw everyday and it will frustate you when you can't draw for a day.

[Anonymous No.4436418]

when can i start drawing from imagination :(((

[Anonymous No.4436426]

i studied skulls and InCase drawings today like anon said and now from imagination

[Anonymous No.4436485]

In drawing with right side of brain do I really need to buy all that gear?

[Anonymous No.4436489]

>>4436426
You'll never make progress asukafag wasting that much time of your life coloring.

[Anonymous No.4436493]

>top 10 reasons why studying the skull is a meme
>#10:
>>4436426

[Anonymous No.4436505]

>>4436485
fuck the gear fuck the material drawing is all in your brain.

you can draw with everything, people saying hurdur use this type of pencil this type of brush yada yada blah blah blah

ARE FUCKING LOSERS DONT LISTEN TO THEM

only listen to your heart and you'll make it.

best regard

[Anonymous No.4436508]

>>4436505
bruh
Know the basics. It's nice to have nice equipment. Stop being an autist

[Anonymous No.4436510]

>>4436505
I think he probably meant all of the extra stuff besides what brush/pencil.
>>4436485
and no, you don't need any of that. you can even do the exercises digitally if you want, it doesn't really matter.

[Anonymous No.4436642]

>>4435895
I also suggest applying blur on the reference image when comparing. It is the equivalent of squinting your eyes, which helps you see the shapes and values more clearly. Side by side comparison shows that your range of values are limited. Your lighttones could be lighter, and you couldve used near true blacks around her eyelids and the rear of her neck. Really, your reference image is your best source for corrections. You just have to analyze it side by side.

[Anonymous No.4436654]

>>4436107
>>4436245
>>4436316
These loomis heads are well done. Youre better off drawing heads from actual references now. For mileage and to expand your visual library.

[Anonymous No.4436668]

>>4436489
Don't discourage him you fucking retarded faggot. I like when he colors. He's improving.

[Anonymous No.4436670]

[Anonymous No.4436693]

ok boys
time to grind loomis heads
goal for tonight is 5 latin ideal heads, measurements and all

Ive realized my heads look fucked because I'm putting the features in the wrong places.

One straight head
2 angled heads
1 angled up/down
1 head to side

[Anonymous No.4436716]

>>4436654
thanks I think I did a bit of a oopsie because I drew from photo reference a lot before doing loomis and I think I should have done the two in combination.

I'm doing some tracing from photo shit I don't really now if this turd has appeal or not and I don't really now if this going to improve my drawing skill.

[Anonymous No.4436751]

>>4436489
kino art

[Anonymous No.4436752]

Can't help but stray from proportion but it's improving, no good grasp oh shading yet shadows can tend to look like dirt small adjustments in how i try to indicate form are still hit and miss.

[Anonymous No.4436780]

[Anonymous No.4436788]

>>4436489
Do NOT reply to this fucking schizo he ruins every thread he posts in.

[Anonymous No.4436795]

>>4436780
On every face I feel like the eye are too far away from each other and that make the face flatter I don't know if you follow what I want to say ?

[Anonymous No.4436802]

>>4436780
>>4436795
I even paintover your other work on the former beg thread

I don't know if this is correct but for me it look better when you get the eyes a bit closer than you do everytime

[Anonymous No.4436833]

>>4436780
Keep it up Asukafag, you're making fast progress

[Anonymous No.4436848]

Tried to push my figures a bit further but I get the feeling I just made them messier, not better

[Anonymous No.4436891]

gonna finish this today, anything i can change?

[Anonymous No.4436926]

>>4436426
hairline lower, good progress :)

[Anonymous No.4436960]

>>4436802
My fuckin sides

[Anonymous No.4436962]

>>4436426
very nice progress. keep grinding anon!

[Anonymous No.4436970]

>>4435281
Start with the overall pose. Get it right with simple shapes (first 1-2 action lines, then circles, squares, lines).
Practice perspective on boxes and cylinders and build your figure around the simple shapes.
Understand the anatomy behind the clothes and draw that, then draping clothes on top is easy.

[Anonymous No.4436985]

>>4436780
I wish I were you

[Anonymous No.4437061]

why does my sphere look bad

[Anonymous No.4437073]

>>4435694
thanks

[Anonymous No.4437116]

>>4436970
yours is way more stiff

[Anonymous No.4437132]

Lol I’ve got a lot of practice to do

[Anonymous No.4437134]

Mouth study

[Anonymous No.4437136]

>>4435050

[Anonymous No.4437138]

Yes it’s shit. Yes, I’ll keep practicing

[Anonymous No.4437145]

>>4437116
fuck off crab. The original is objectively more stiff than the redline, even if the redline is stiff on its own.

[Anonymous No.4437161]

>>4436642
Thank you!

[Anonymous No.4437180]

>>4436970
I appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.4437187]

>>4435574
Start over. Before you do, brush up on your anatomy, learn about proportion and gesture, make several preliminary sketches and really think through the pose. Stop thinking like a coomer, and start thinking like a craftsman.

>>4435601
If her hair and sleeves are moving in the wind, then her dress should not cling to her left leg like that.

>>4436970
I think the left shoulder in the original is supposed to be raised, but the braid is obscuring the lowered right shoulder. If that is the case, then the right side of the hip should be raised. Then the right hand should be resting on the raised side.

That overdrawing is a very standard pin-up pose. I think what anon was trying to evoke was a sassy, one-leg-away-from-the-body pose, but the draping of the apron muddles it. The solution is to push the pose to emphasize the character's emotional state.

[Anonymous No.4437204]

>>4436642
Btw is it okay if I blur on the reference image? I feel like I'm cheating.

[Anonymous No.4437222]

>>4436802
It actually looks worse, Anon

[Anonymous No.4437226]

>>4437204
Youre doing it for the sake of learning, it's essentially squinting without actually squinting your eyes. You know what's cheating? Tracing another work and claiming it as your own.

[Anonymous No.4437231]

Do I really have to grind loomis?cant I just copy anime pictures from my favorite jpgs?

[Anonymous No.4437233]

Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.4437264]

If I read loomis, how fast will I improve?

[Anonymous No.4437268]

How do you pass the linework autismo?
The sketch and shit can be done in 10 minutes, but I waste days on the linework, ending worse looking

[Anonymous No.4437284]

If you I post a drawing here on /beg/ and it receives no replies, is it safe to say that I'm in the clear?

[Anonymous No.4437293]

>>4437284
no. To finally graduate the beginner academy and be bestowed the "im not a beginner crown" You must link your work and wait a total of 2 business days , and only then will you be bestowed your new title.

[Anonymous No.4437294]

Going through Anatomy for Sculptors and making notes. Also shapes. Shapes shapes shaaaaaaaape.

[Anonymous No.4437295]

>>4437293

>>4435524
>>4435525
>>4435572
>>4435797
box angles, sternomastoid

[Anonymous No.4437299]

>>4437295
Hmm the way I see it is that yeah, you definitely are past the /beg stage maybe even a lot better than some people in /alt or /int or whatever it's called. Not that a lot of them in there are even that good anyways.

the only advice I feel like I want to give you is to probably not get carried away by all the technical stuff (box drawings and guidelines) and explore

Keep doing what you're doing to improve cause it's obviously working, but just don't get too invested in things you don't want to draw by not drawing things you actually want to draw is what I'm trying to say. GL dude.

[Anonymous No.4437309]

>>4437299
Thanks anon.
>not get carried away by all the technical stuff (box drawings and guidelines) and explore
This is actually my way of exploring. I find myself drawing the same poses over and over again, it's become stale I'd like to be able to rotate figures in space, like dare I say, Krenz. That and I'd also like to get into environments/background which I have zero knowledge right now.
>but just don't get too invested in things you don't want to draw by not drawing things you actually want to draw
I hear you. It's starting to become tedious but I'd like to trust the process. Anyway, I'm still doing fun sketches at the side.

[Anonymous No.4437315]

>>4437309
Nice to hear you're still doing the things you enjoy.

looking forward to seeing your drawings in the alt thread or whatever thread you're supposed to post in after this one.

[Anonymous No.4437334]

is there anything wrong with the far arm?

[Anonymous No.4437335]

Where do I even start
I'm trying to follow the sticky but people are saying loomis is shit?

[Anonymous No.4437340]

>>4437335
just draw

[Anonymous No.4437351]

>>4437061
is ok

[Anonymous No.4437360]

Anything worth watching on skillshare for a dude who just wants to draw tits and hips?

[Anonymous No.4437362]

>>4437335
loomis is good but don't just copy his drawings with his method. Try to apply his method to real life people and your imagination.

Same as other anon said. Just draw. Don't be too proud of yourself and always look at how you can improve. Shading enhances a good drawing. It doesn't save a bad one. Have fun :D

[Anonymous No.4437408]

Is there any way to get better at placing lines accurately other than mindless grinding? I don't actually understand what I'm doing wrong or what I should be doing differently; it feels like every line I draw is spat out by a random number generator rather than being a result of my effort. I can't even trace things with any sort of accuracy.

[Anonymous No.4437436]

i tried to render another sphere by following this random guide i found. I think i fucked it up somewhere. is it the highlights/"shadow"lights

[Anonymous No.4437443]

>>4437222 (you)
Happy?

[Anonymous No.4437498]

Vilppu said in one of his videos that you should be able to draw the skeleton from any angle from imagination before you start learning anatomy.
Do you think this would be a good substitute for grinding boxes? A lot of bones are pretty boxy anyway, but you're working towards something that has more of a purpose than boxes for the sake of boxes.

[Anonymous No.4437505]

>>4437498
It's in the Drawing the Torso video from his Figure Drawing course on NMA if anyone was wondering.

[Anonymous No.4437542]

>>4437498
Im sure this guy is senile he doesn’t even remember how he learned drawing himself so he is spitting bullshit exercice or dogma out of his ass just to get the sweet juicy crabbux.

[Anonymous No.4437558]

>>4437335
Vilppu video courses.

[Anonymous No.4437562]

>>4437542
I dunno, on the one hand it seems like overkill, but on the other hand it seems like something that a skiled artist should be able to do. Drawing the rib cage and pelvis from any angle might seem daunting if you treat it as memorization, but I think if you truly understand how to sculpt arbitrary 3D form on the paper then it should be a lot easier. Sort of like a final exam to see how well your fundies are coming along. Obviously I'm a /beg/ and I can't actually do that so this is all just theory right now.

[Anonymous No.4437570]

>>4437562
Yeah I know that a skilled artist should be able to do this but are you sure he said it like that don’t learn anatomy before being able to do this ???

It sound a lot like drawing 10 000 boxes before learning another thing and we see were that lead with the drawabox admin faggot who draw wonky anatomy and try to polish his turds with rendering to hide the fact that he wasted his time and waste the time of other people too.

[Anonymous No.4437574]

>>4437570
His exact words were "you should be able to draw the skeleton from any angle from imagination. That's step 1."

[Anonymous No.4437587]

>>4437574
Yeah so he didn’t say don’t learn any other anatomy before being able to do this, he’s not that senile. Whatever I don’t care.

[Anonymous No.4437593]

>>4437558
why do you shill vilppu?

[Anonymous No.4437631]

>>4437593
Okay, don't then.

[Anonymous No.4437638]

>>4437631
why don't you answer the question anon...

[Anonymous No.4437640]

>>4437587
How do you interpret "that's step 1"?

[Anonymous No.4437656]

Lips!

[Anonymous No.4437671]

>>4437638
Nah just don't. You should do Loomis instead.

[Anonymous No.4437674]

>>4436970
The op's design was way more appealing.

[Anonymous No.4437701]

[Anonymous No.4437709]

how can these people that just started drawing be so good already. I cant even draw anything above 7 year old level.

[Anonymous No.4437710]

>>4435558
saw this on the /co/ work on your art thread, but you have hope

[Anonymous No.4437739]

Today I will do mouth study, eye and eyebrow study, and grind roomis head

>>4437656
Thanks for sharing, this helped me

>>4437701
This is good anon, I like your style

[Anonymous No.4437743]

>>4437701
Nice heads. The first one is very Disney-like.

[Anonymous No.4437744]

coronavirus means I want to pick up painting.
the w/ic/ki describes paint supply stores, but would someone be able to recommend me a starter set of paint, brushes, canvas, or point me to a good source where these are explained?

[Anonymous No.4437746]

>>4437709
Many people in these threads have been drawing for 6+ months and some have been drawing for years.

[Anonymous No.4437757]

[Anonymous No.4437786]

>>4437757
how are you able to shit out sketches so quickly

[Anonymous No.4437794]

>>4437786
well honestly this is an angle of the body I have drawn from reference and imagination hundreds of times
now i dont wanna say i have it mastered or whatever, but i guess its decent enough
i just wanted to connect my new knowledge of heads to a body

[Anonymous No.4437796]

Chad and incel

[Anonymous No.4437808]

>>4437268
It depends on your process which will vary on the individual. Personally, I've found that tracing over sketches to get clean linework tremendously stiffens my drawings; I shift from a very dynamic, large scale mindset to a very static and detail oriented one too quickly, at least digitally. There's a lot of very good strokes in sketches that are just lost with that approach for me so I try to make the sketch itself my linework.

Ideally, you want to get to a point where every stroke you make is conscious and valuable. In other words, never make a line that doesn't matter. Take it to the point that you can internalize all of the steps, visualize the image and steps beforehand, and start straight away with the linework as if it were your sketch.

[Anonymous No.4437834]

>>4437701
>>4437757
>>4436795
You need to work on your hairs. Often times they look like seaweed on a well drawn head.

[Anonymous No.4437856]

A small caricature of John Stuart Mill

[Anonymous No.4437860]

>>4436970
souless

[Anonymous No.4437867]

I can't even draw the face shape consistently holy shit, I figured after gesture drawing and drawing some boxes I could hop onto this

[Anonymous No.4437944]

does the sketch look ok before i start taking the long ass time to do the linework

[Anonymous No.4437947]

An attempt. What I’ve been doing is working out the head shape, then attempting to copy while to the side while being deliberate on the shapes. After, I trace both and remove the layers too see exactly what I got off. Then I retry until I am satisfied. Let me know if you guys think that this is a good way to learn.

[Anonymous No.4437978]

>>4437944
I'm always uncertain criticizing stuff like this, because you're clearly going for a stylized look. So I like the anatomy, as exaggerated as it is, but I think her head shape and face could use work. Her chin is super pointy, which is fair, but the cheeks should probably be a bit longer so her head isn't so oddly trangular.

>>4437947
It sounds like you're making a base layer, then going back over it, which is common, but if you're newer you sometimes mess up the lines making it all wonky. May not be the case, but I certainly had that issue at first. I think imitation is great, but try not to imitate layer by layer in a way that you would start building up an original piece. This may not work for everyone, but I benefitted in drawing the way you would on physical paper, going bit by bit. As in, start (for example) the eyes, then move on to the nose, then the mouth, then the face and hair and what have you around it. I've made imitations of all kinds of images this way. It may be wonky at first, but it helps you understand how certain looks are made.

[Anonymous No.4437992]

>>4437867
sooooo what is your question then?

[Anonymous No.4438003]

>>4437867
which book was this called again?

[Anonymous No.4438033]

>>4435955
looks cute

[Anonymous No.4438036]

>>4437992
i don't know anon, perfecting face shape is hard without going slowly. And you have to go fast to get smooth flowing lines, but idk how you can draw that all in one go

[Anonymous No.4438046]

Eyes are hard

[Anonymous No.4438049]

Corona doodle. Gonna start to study gesture and anatomy now. Is there a bit of gesture in this?

[Anonymous No.4438055]

>>4438036
Prepare to draw heads for months bro. I'm on that journey right now. It's all up to your brain to do that for you.

[Anonymous No.4438062]

>>4438049
desu 0 gesture there, you don't study for a few days and you are set that shit takes a lot not to mention your beg anatomy keep working on one day you may

[Anonymous No.4438074]

>>4438055
fuck man. i'm gonna have to grind.
do you draw in separate lines or one go?
what's the proper way I don't even know what exactly I should be grinding out

[Anonymous No.4438080]

Should i read Fun with pencil first, or i can start with Heads and hands? Im total beg btw.

[Anonymous No.4438084]

>>4438074
I draw head, face, then hair if you want. Depends what you're working on.

Proper way is what works for you. You just need to be trying to understand what you're drawing, don't blindly draw. Change things up.

[Anonymous No.4438110]

Do you throw away your grind paper?

[Anonymous No.4438123]

>>4438110
no i need it because i ran out of paper to wipe my ass

[Anonymous No.4438173]

Proko Mannequin study

[Anonymous No.4438175]

>>4438173
(these things)

[Anonymous No.4438176]

>>4438173
>>4438175
Wheres your prokoroo?

[Anonymous No.4438181]

Fuck why muscles are so hard to draw. If a anon has some tips...

[Anonymous No.4438184]

>>4437978
Thanks for the advice anon. But I’m not actually trying to make something that looks nice. I’m trying to understand the construction of the face and develop a repertoire of wisdoms and tools that help me place things on a 3D plane, which is why I’m working out the base layer and working up. I’m practicing the steps in between the end result, as those are the ones that I’m lacking

Here’s round 2

[Anonymous No.4438186]

Studying the force

[Anonymous No.4438193]

lil trad fan art to take a break from the fucking loomis grind

[Anonymous No.4438206]

>>4438184
Anything obvious that i missed?

[Anonymous No.4438213]

At what point is styling just a crutch?

[Anonymous No.4438219]

>>4438036
I can suggest you watch Vilppu's lecture on drawing the head(skull) and the face. That helped me the most I think at the start.

[Anonymous No.4438233]

Should I use like darkest black for the strongest shadows ,or would that ruin the whole thing?

[Anonymous No.4438246]

>>4438213
When you stop making progress as fast.

[Anonymous No.4438266]

Question, what's a good book/course/etc to learn how to put figures into a scene? Kind want to start getting away from drawing people in a void and move on to drawing scenes with people in them doing stuff and making the art "tell a story". Guessing perspective has a lot to do with it.

[Anonymous No.4438285]

>>4438246
As fast as what? Is there a point to trying to develop a unique style if you have to work at it?

[Anonymous No.4438291]

>>4438285
Style comes after fundies usually. Practicing other things will improve your style naturally.

[Anonymous No.4438304]

if i've drawn some boxes, practiced strokes and done an hour of gesture drawing what next

[Anonymous No.4438307]

>>4438304
https://mega.nz/#F!gpAyxSYK!wRqIgzf8Eh8S7hw0rU8UDw
https://mega.nz/#F!UC5FDCCL!q7aDFUj9ebh3Eh1ikQDqhQ

[Anonymous No.4438310]

>>4438110
i keep it and flip through it for motivation.

[Anonymous No.4438312]

>>4438206
Maybe I should move ahead to roomis-kun’s body section gestures now

[Anonymous No.4438316]

>>4438307
man this is a lot. v overwhelming.

[Anonymous No.4438318]

>>4437944
exaggeration works well when you know anatomy, but i don't think you care so i'm looking forward to months of this

[Anonymous No.4438323]

>>4438316
When you're done with them you'll be way past /beg/

[Anonymous No.4438326]

I bought this $30 tablet. What is a good tutorial for learning to draw drawing with it? Was this a shit tablet to get? is it difficult to go between learning to draw and learning to digitally draw?

[Anonymous No.4438329]

>>4438326

[Anonymous No.4438334]

>>4438329
yeah im now seeing I kinda wasted a gift request on this one

[Anonymous No.4438336]

>>4438334
heres a tip, never ever buy any tablet that is below medium size buy the large ones if you can wacom even if it is used, they last for years

[Anonymous No.4438338]

Ok months of loomis grind paid off for sure, this is my best work so far what do you think guyyysss ?

[Anonymous No.4438339]

>>4438323
there's no way everyone does this right, sits through hour long sessions, lessons after lessons.

[Anonymous No.4438346]

>>4438338
>/ic/ begs in a nutshell
this should essentially be the op image every single time to deter anime-aping ngmi's

[Anonymous No.4438347]

>>4438326
It is perfectly fine for a tablet. The only thing you need to get used to is pressure sensitivity and hand-eye coordination between screen and the tablet. The rest just using the settings of your software. Otherwise at the core it is not much different from using a traditional medium.

[Anonymous No.4438350]

>>4438346
pyw you fucking faggot you are talking to one of the best draftsman in the entire world

[Anonymous No.4438356]

>>4438350
did i strike a nerve? go back to drawing triangle chins and square eyes you greasy ngmi

[Anonymous No.4438357]

>>4438356
Pyw? Or do you even draw

[Anonymous No.4438358]

>>4438339
>sits through hour long sessions, lessons after lessons
no, only people with actual 'tisms do that. the rest of us split the learning throughout the years.

[Anonymous No.4438360]

>>4438356
you mother should have go easy on the wine when she carried the human shit that you are during those 8 months.

[Anonymous No.4438361]

>>4438350

[Anonymous No.4438364]

>anime-aping chimpoids start barking and hollering the instant you make fun of their chicken scratches
gimme a second, i'll make a new seething coomer wojack varient you faggots love

[Anonymous No.4438365]

[Anonymous No.4438370]

>spend 8h a day on 4chan
>modifying this shitty wojack pic is the most productive thing he's done in the week
>ask himself why he's still living with his parents at 23

[Anonymous No.4438372]

>>4438336
like these?


wacom

https://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Graphics-Drawing-Software-included/dp/B07VS4KSLK/ref=sr_1_11?fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1584828260&refinements=p_36%3A1253505011&rnid=386442011&s=pc&sr=1-11

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacom-CTL6100WLK0-Intuos-Creative-Pen-Tablet-Bluetooth-Medium-Black-Renewe/184159974097?epid=13032259701&hash=item2ae0ca32d1:g:XfgAAOSw4UReOjOE

https://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Graphic-Drawing-Tablet-Beginners/dp/B07S1RR3FR/ref=sr_1_3?fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1584828260&refinements=p_36%3A1253505011&rnid=386442011&s=pc&sr=1-3


xp pen

https://www.amazon.com/XP-PEN-Graphics-Pressure-Battery-Free-Supported/dp/B07VKB37HZ/ref=sr_1_7?fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1584828260&refinements=p_36%3A1253505011&rnid=386442011&s=pc&sr=1-7

Huion

https://www.amazon.com/Graphic-Drawing-Function-Battery-Free-Pressure/dp/B07DPC98DT/ref=sr_1_3?fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1584829489&refinements=p_36%3A4000-10000&rnid=386442011&s=pc&sr=1-3

[Anonymous No.4438375]

>>4438334
should be fine to learn, larger one is preferred
as long as the tablet is functional, it is okay
you'll need to take some time to adjust between physical and digital, you can begin with whichever
if you already know physical, learning digital will be smoother. but if you don't care about physical, go ahead and go digital

[Anonymous No.4438394]

>>4438372
>https://www.ebay.com/itm/Wacom-CTL6100WLK0-Intuos-Creative-Pen-Tablet-Bluetooth-Medium-Black-Renewe/184159974097?epid=13032259701&hash=item2ae0ca32d1:g:XfgAAOSw4UReOjOE
like this, if you can go for a pro version do it the others are the basic shit that are missing the shorcuts but most importantly are the pens and sofware improvements as for the other brands make sure to buy the latest ones

>https://www.amazon.com/Graphic-Drawing-Function-Battery-Free-Pressure/dp/B07DPC98DT/ref=sr_1_3?fst=as%3Aoff&qid=1584829489&refinements=p_36%3A4000-10000&rnid=386442011&s=pc&sr=1-3

this one is really outdated even if it was only a few years, a lot of these brands are always making newer versions of their older tablets so keep that in mind and go for the new models but if you can just go for a wacom intuos pro medium or large, used ones are cheap, the one in your link is 120 usd , that shit is sheap as fuck mostly reason why people sell them is because they renew their tablets and the resellers just fix the surface panel, buttoms or usb port if there's anything wrong since these are the manly components that may get damaged over time but those are rare.


>inb4 shilling for wacom

the only thing that wacom has over other brands is the pen sensitivity,accuracy being better and software

[Anonymous No.4438398]

You guys have a discord server that isn't filled with spergs? I think being in an environment with /beg/ fags will make me wanna draw daily

[Anonymous No.4438402]

>>4438398
I rarely use it but from what I've gathered discord inherently invites itself to that kind of behavior.
You should probably just start a channel and just invite people if you're that pressed about it.

[Anonymous No.4438403]

>>4438398
stupid newfag, you shoul know by now that discord is a waste of time or just a demerit for your progress, but go ahead and find it for yourself

[Anonymous No.4438404]

Ok I think this is it, I really found my style thanks to villpoo I can finally feel the form.
I peaked it’s only downhill from here.

[Anonymous No.4438407]

>>4437180
>>4437180

[Anonymous No.4438410]

Can anyone post good hand reference or books with good tutorials for hands?

[Anonymous No.4438411]

>>4438339
You bounce from learning to applying

[Anonymous No.4438416]

>>4438404
I can tell by the things your doing on that computer, YOU, you're gmi bro.

[Anonymous No.4438419]

>>4438338
not enough volume, just use the boxes

[Anonymous No.4438430]

>>4438419
Thanks for the advice bro, it is the box that make your lil doodling with way more soul than any of my drawing ?
Why do every of my drawing are souless ?

[Anonymous No.4438455]

Out here practicing getting lines right yes everything is garbage

[Anonymous No.4438461]

hogarth or bridgeman?

[Anonymous No.4438468]

>>4438461
Tunnelwoman is much better

[Anonymous No.4438476]

>>4438347
>>4438375
>>4438394
Thanks for the help peeps

[Anonymous No.4438514]

>>4438318
please suggest me a book to go through then.

[Anonymous No.4438526]

kill me

[Anonymous No.4438542]

New thread please

[Anonymous No.4438549]

>>4438312
They're still bad. But yeah, it's not a good idea to dwell on one part for too long or until you've 'mastered' it. Proceed to the next section while also doing heads at the side.

[Anonymous No.4438557]

>>4438430
for me it's more about appealing/unappealing.
i draw everyday (even if it's 5 minute scratches out of 24 hours)
90% of my works are complete trash, so I procrastinate 90% of time untill something good showup inside my mind, but sometimes good ideas just don't come up. this is the time when it's need to trade sanity to grind average skill level, so the inspired 150% would be much better

[Anonymous No.4438592]

>>4438557
I like this construction.

[Anonymous No.4438623]

>>4437061
why are you using a soft brush

[Anonymous No.4438638]

>>4438623
im not suppose to?

[Anonymous No.4438706]

>>4438338
>>4438350

[Anonymous No.4438765]

[Anonymous No.4438903]

>>4438526
I like this dawg, youre more far along than me.

[Anonymous No.4438916]

>>4438765
i like that pic of greta

[Anonymous No.4438939]

Yeah I'm close to finishing this

[Anonymous No.4440353]

What I’ve done so far. Can I get some advice on fixing the sketch before I go further?

[Anonymous No.4440523]

>>4440353
loo

[Anonymous No.4440534]

Just started watching Proko, why the fuck does he hold his pencil on such a steep angle is that normal

[Anonymous No.4440621]

where is everyone bros : (