Anime is basically all under age now Patreon

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Anime is basically all under age now Patreon Anonymous Thu Mar 12 15:51:45 2020 No.4421663 [Reply] [Original]

'Anime' art will no longer be allowed on Patreon

Anonymous Thu Mar 12 15:55:56 2020 No.4421680

>>4421663
Looks like all the niggers that keep saying artists need to lower their prices are about to be forced to shut the fuck up.
Its commission season babyyyyy. Sakimicuck going to actually have to work for her pay now.
Also, Kofi and the other smaller donation services are about to get a big boost

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 15:57:24 2020 No.4421682 >>4421663 Does it affect art that is rendered more realistically but has anime eyes, like Sakimichan and her clones?

Anonymous Thu Mar 12 15:59:23 2020 No.4421691

>>4421663
genuinely curious, but who polices this content?

Are they threatening to sue patron for damages? Damages to who?

Why would patreon care what content is up, will the government shut them down? Will this be a federal case if they don't remove the content?

How come sites like 4chan are ok?

I know that people can get upset, by the content, but I don't understand what power the individual has against a corporation

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 15:59:50 2020 No.4421692 >>4421663 Post the source and some of their art so we know if they're just doing the 'oh my anime girl is actually 200 years old' meme.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 16:00:04 2020 No.4421694 You guys cry over anime style everyday. Doesnt it get tiring

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 16:00:18 2020 No.4421696 >>4421682 That's always the problem with trying to establish rules around something so subjective. I bet it'll be hilariously arbitrary

Anonymous Thu Mar 12 16:03:56 2020 No.4421705

>>4421696
Apparently it's about to cause an apocalypse in there.

https://www.reddit.com/r/patreon/comments/fhcwxn/what_counts_as_sexualised_content/
>I was posting fine art photos that were not in my opinion at all sexual and they flagged my account. So, now I just assume that they would judge anything with any level of nudity is NSFW. It is sad.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 16:07:39 2020 No.4421716 get an actual job, your art is devalued by making it a product

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 16:09:54 2020 No.4421721 >>4421705 So basically, Patreon is about to go bankrupt? Finally

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 16:10:55 2020 No.4421725 Patreon isn't consistent with anything they do, so you guys are panicking over business as usual for them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 16:12:32 2020 No.4421728 >>4421691 Damages to me and my hurt feelings Me no likey the big eye china drawing :,(

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 16:15:23 2020 No.4421739 >>4421728 Get a real job.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 16:33:43 2020 No.4421805 >>4421680 >Sakimicuck going to actually have to work for her pay now. She makes to much money for the site theyll never take her down. Also Subsribestar exists

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 16:37:17 2020 No.4421810 >>4421805 >Subsribestar exists How is SubscribeStar?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 16:37:48 2020 No.4421813 File: 79 KB, 720x514, Screenshot_20200312-133014~2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I check the guidelines and I couldn't see anything about no anime

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 17:01:40 2020 No.4421875 >>4421691 >geniunely curious >double spacing Please consider going back

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 17:03:51 2020 No.4421881 >>4421875 How do you propose it be formatted? Into a single paragraph of questions? If you are referring to going back to rddit, I’ve never actually been to the website before

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 17:07:25 2020 No.4421891 >>4421691 It's just poor management on the companies behalf as usual, loli isn't even illegal in the us

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 17:09:49 2020 No.4421897 >>4421891 It's less about loli being legal or not and more about how muh advertisers and whatnot perceive the website.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 17:12:09 2020 No.4421901 >>4421897 Do ads even play a part on patreon? Isn't the site run only on patrons money? I use an adblock so I never saw ad there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 17:18:38 2020 No.4421925 >>4421663 very based

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 17:20:14 2020 No.4421930 >>4421663 This is some legitimately unfortunate news. Now if youre being supported mainly by Patreon youre at the mercy of a dictatorship that tells you weather or not your artsyle fits the mold. Are styles influenced by anime not allowed either?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 17:21:46 2020 No.4421935 >>4421663 I hope fanbox see this and finally decides to come for the west market.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 17:21:56 2020 No.4421938 >>4421930 it's fake news

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 17:23:06 2020 No.4421940 >>4421692 This

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 17:24:11 2020 No.4421945 >>4421705 It has always been like this. This isn’t news if you show nudes sexual or not your account has to be marked as nsfw

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 17:27:29 2020 No.4421952 >>4421930 it has to be fake or a misunderstanding there's no way patreon is just going to ban "japanese-style" art, that's pretty much every artist on there doing nsfw

Anonymous Thu Mar 12 17:51:05 2020 No.4422026

>>4421691
The new world order is working to make safe and moral alternatives to child rape illegal in oder to maintain a monopoly and exclusivity to sexualized children and to undermine the morality of societies.
If it's written in the law it'll affect all online platforms and all publications. There isn't anything any of them could do for this type of content if it's simply against the law.
4chan is "okay" because the laws haven't passed everywhere yet and because the only board where loli porn is allowed, /b/, has been run by the FBI since literally forever. This site lost /l/ and whatever the loli torrents board was originally called even before that. This site is exactly as clean as any other discussion forum is save for the honeypot board, and has only a fraction of a fraction of the actual literal child porn that circulates on big mainstream social media like facebook, twitter and previously tumblr.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 17:53:08 2020 No.4422030 >>4421663 How is furry porn on patreon? I don't want to learn this shit if they want to kill it there.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 18:00:35 2020 No.4422052 >>4421692 >>4421940 As he suggests in the text, you may google "waero". His twitter does say to search for "waero patreon", and his twitter feed has no loli porn on a short glance.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 18:03:18 2020 No.4422057 >>4422030 Imagine trying to get into furry smut you hate just because you fell for the meme that furfaggotry = easy money

Anonymous Thu Mar 12 18:06:33 2020 No.4422065

>>4422026
Does your stupid ass actually believe pedophiles would use loli and “safe and moral alternatives to child rape” rather than actual children or child porn?
Besides that, this shit is stupid and does nothing to combat child sexual exploitation. Removing harmless images no matter how distasteful you find them does jack shit and takes resources away from removing and tracking child porn and its perpetrators.
God, isn’t Amazon removing anime figurines to “combat child exploitation”? It”s all marketing to make themselves look good.
Looking forward to see how they police this shit. If the eyes are bigger than 1/5 of the width of the head, it’s child porn!

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 18:13:27 2020 No.4422082 >>4422026 my question is more like - what will happen to patreon if they leave it as it is? It's just a company, will they be fined? Are the founders at risk of going to jail?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 18:35:27 2020 No.4422132 >>4422065 This is pretty much the new "violent games makes you violent", but for loli.

Anonymous Thu Mar 12 18:47:04 2020 No.4422162

>>4422065
You've almost figured it out.
No, removing fantasy alternatives won't help children. It does the opposite. It's why they focus on fantasy, to maintain a monopoly and exclusivity to sexualized children and to undermine the morality of societies.

>Does your stupid ass actually believe pedophiles would use loli and “safe and moral alternatives to child rape” rather than actual children or child porn?
How much time do you spend in lolicon communities? Being a pedophile doesn't imply moral bankruptcy. Most of the people you'd find in lolicon communities are there because they have intact morals and have found that fantasy is a functional alternative that can satisfy their urges and desires without involving actual children. If you've heard stories from FBI agents you'd know that pedophile stings return literally nothing in lolicon communities while sampling random people on facebook gets you a full van of offending pedophiles within a couple hours.
But yes, you're right in that if this safe outlet is removed (as seems to be the agenda) these people lose any reason to restrain themselves. If you're equally going to jail over drawings and over real porn there'll be no reason to limit yourself to the good side. This is why I've included "undermine the morality of societies" in the agenda summary.

You don't really need to respond in retaliation. What I've said is either fully true or ostensibly true. You already know the means aren't useful for achieving the stated ends.

>>4422082
What would happen if they resisted the trends is unknown. It's unknown because it's untinkable. What sort of a company would willingly go against the law. It wouldn't happen accidentally, and it wouldn't happen on purpose.
And if they actually didn't do shit, most likely nothing would happen, since nothing happened to facebook or twitter or tumblr before FOSTA-SESTA went live (and in the case of tumblr, apple removing them from their app store). Nothing happened to early 4chan either.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 19:23:29 2020 No.4422234 what i don't understand is why do artists not use OnlyFans?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 19:28:06 2020 No.4422237 >>4422162 i've come to realize that anyone advocating for banning lolicon is not only statist, they are also pro child rape

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 19:30:35 2020 No.4422242 >>4422234 Same reason why full blown thots don't use patreon i guess

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 20:07:25 2020 No.4422306 >>4422162 Lolicon paranoia is a terrible, terrible thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 20:20:20 2020 No.4422326 I thought they'd at least wait till the olympics before outlawing anime porn after all the normies eyes end up on it

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 20:26:47 2020 No.4422335 File: 597 KB, 1196x2048, cartwright muriel skullgirls.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4422234 >what i don't understand is why do artists not use OnlyFans? Some of them are can make a ton of dough selling feet pics

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 21:09:28 2020 No.4422399 >>4421663 this looks like just an excuse to discorage nsfw content. Patreon doesn't want the reputation of onlyfans.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 21:21:44 2020 No.4422416 >>4422335 who is that babe. wow

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 23:21:39 2020 No.4422571 >>4421901 Ads arent about the money, its about politics and opression. The day companies can tell ad agencies to fuck off is the day we know were free from moloch.

Anonymous Thu Mar 12 23:25:34 2020 No.4422575

>>4422162
Never said anything bad towards lolicon or the people who look at it, its a fantasy that harms no one. Liking lolicon doesnt make you a pedophile. Just like liking vore doesnt make you a cannibal, or having a rape fetish doesnt make you a rapist or a wannabe victim.
How does lolicon at all help actual pedophiles? They look nothing like and act nothing like real children. An actual pedophile has mental issues that makes them unable to see reality and will confuse a child doing child things (dancing around, for example) as the child coming onto them. Hell, I bring up the dancing example from a study where the dude admitted he had to go to the bathroom to jack off because a little kid dancing around got him so turned on. How can you tell me someone like that is only being held from raping children because of loli? Thats a ridiculous line of reasoning. “Well, they banned loli. Instead of pirating it or making it myself like a reasonable person, ill go rape kids.”
Also, nice to know youre the arbitrator of truth. Ill just believe everything you say from now on.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 23:29:23 2020 No.4422582 >>4422416 silence, simp

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 23:32:41 2020 No.4422590 >>4421663 Well the anime artist are fucked, but the loli cucks are fucked even harder, so it’s a win.

Anonymous Thu Mar 12 23:34:34 2020 No.4422594

>>4422237
>lolbertarian
Unironically end yourself.

>>4422575
There's really no compelling argument against not curbstomping those 'fantasies'.

Fucking degenerates and their whiteknights cry 'muh liberty' whenever companies or social entities fuck with their shit, thinking the whole world needs to feel sorry for them and 'accept' them for who they are. They sound just like SJWs who pull the victim card.

And look at what happened to Burgerland once it caved into the demands of the LGBLTBBQ+, it's literally Sodom and Gomorrah now. Degenerates can go cry somewhere else when society rightfully rejects them like the faggots they are.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 23:37:56 2020 No.4422600 >>4422594 Based and redpilled.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 23:46:33 2020 No.4422624 File: 248 KB, 1199x1600, Sokol_50_Years_147.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4421663 >'Anime' art is this an "anime"?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 23:47:28 2020 No.4422626 File: 853 KB, 1242x1575, image0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4421938 >>4421952 Patreon prolly isn't stupid enough to go all-out on this, but there have already been casualties.

Anonymous Thu Mar 12 23:54:59 2020 No.4422642

>>4422594
Im not a fan of them either, I just think theyre harmless for the most part. Its also ridiculously hard to ban peoples fantasies, and any rules would have a ton of loopholes. People should be free to shit on those fantasies too though, otherwise you do get the current day shit you mentioned. You never tell people no, they keep going further.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 23:56:01 2020 No.4422646 I wonder if sakimichan qualifies. She does draw underage anime characters often, but she's also their biggest cashcow

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 00:01:51 2020 No.4422662 File: 612 KB, 719x1000, 1583884110597.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4422646 The characters she draws nude always look mature though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 00:09:27 2020 No.4422682 >>4422662 Doesn't matter, still officially underage

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 00:12:33 2020 No.4422687

>>4422682
Hypothetically, if there was a show/movie that had a plot where fully grown, mentally mature adults were grown in labs within days, would they be considered infants or adults?

I'm not trying to sound like a smartass, this question just genuinely intrigues me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 00:17:05 2020 No.4422693 File: 973 KB, 1070x1214, DizzyRev.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4422687 I wouldn't consider them a infant but I definitely wouldn't consider them a adult.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 00:24:09 2020 No.4422705

>>4421680
Hasn't she been making bank for several years now? I'd find it hard to believe she doesn't have enough money to retire and live comfortably already
>>4421952
This is my guess too. Not only it's a widely spread style even in the west but it's also a very vague way to describe it which could cause issue to artists with styles that are not completely japanese but that you can tell have influences from it

besides, what do you even describe as japanese style? anime and manga? if so, how are they planning to define exactly what makes anime anime? it's the big eyes, small nose and mouth? because tons of western styles have those traits too so I'm confused about what is their definition of japanese style

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 01:28:40 2020 No.4422813 Did they btfo Waero from patreon or something?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 01:37:17 2020 No.4422820 >>4422813 Yup, they killed that nigga

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 04:41:13 2020 No.4422966 >>4421930 >Are styles influenced by anime not allowed either? "Japanese-style" sounds intentionally really broad. I think they'll keep the terms loose so they can excuse banning a wider amount of NSFW accounts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 04:45:39 2020 No.4422969 >>4422687 >fully grown >mature Adult if past puberty.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 05:08:11 2020 No.4422981 >>4422687 Adults, but you'd still get pedophile jokes. >>4422693 Case in point. Dizzy is physically and mentally mature, but she's also like five by the time Ky puts a baby in her, so she gets a loli mom doujin and Ky gets child molestor jokes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 06:09:51 2020 No.4423024 >>4422399 It might get reputation of Tumblr instead.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 06:38:27 2020 No.4423046 >>4422981 >know there's humanoids who are born adult >refuse to treat them like adults >get scammed and abused left and right by "inocent kids who just happen to look like adults" I wanna read this manga

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 06:45:47 2020 No.4423048 File: 72 KB, 640x256, 1485A6FE-D647-49CB-8489-A62EC5B702EA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] imagine

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 06:46:20 2020 No.4423049 File: 78 KB, 616x408, EF7685AE-DB24-43A6-8A3F-6CEA428823D8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] my shock

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 06:47:59 2020 No.4423050 File: 344 KB, 1280x1994, Artist - LewdCactus ShyCactus64.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4422234 >why do artists not use OnlyFans? but they do https://onlyfans.com/lewdcactus64

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 07:05:33 2020 No.4423058 >>4421691 >Damages to who? to SJW feelings Now they can enjoy their CP knowing weebs are punished

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 08:12:28 2020 No.4423097 >>4421663 This is a pile of BS coming from a pedo artist. That's all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 08:13:14 2020 No.4423098 File: 59 KB, 517x600, ss+(2016-01-25+at+09.37.45).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Dilate trannys

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 08:24:46 2020 No.4423108 >>4423097 >pedo

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 08:30:46 2020 No.4423112 How long until Japan is banned from the internet?

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 08:34:03 2020 No.4423115

>>4422575
>An actual pedophile has mental issues that makes them unable to see reality
This is not a given.
Either your study had a sample size of one or its results disagree with this isolated case. Or it was done on people found inside prisons and mental institutions.
Mental illness is a problem of its own. The guy would still pose a threat if he was gay and had no sense of reality, and, as it happens, most of the people sitting in jail for abusing children are the kinds that would've raped a cat if that was all the pussy around when they got horny.

Where lolicon becomes useful for pedophiles is exactly where the bathroom and the ability to masturbate became useful for your guy. Having found an alternative, no child was involved in a sexual act.
Also, while loli might not always resemble children it is often used as an alternative, and other forms like written fiction and 3DCG exist as well.
Finally, no one is going to go straight to raping after loli gets banned. But if they need to circumvent law enforcement when accessing fantasy porn, doing it to access actual porn becomes that much easier, the production of which always involves child rape.

>>4422594
What I mean to say is that curbstomping these fantasies is cultivating them in reality. You must remember that reality is different from fantasy and that most paraphilias are mostly normal for the human condition. Our age of decay is defined by the spread of paraphilic reality rather than paraphilic fantasy.
Pedophiles (and other rightly illegal groups like necrophiles) are resistant to this shift if they have intact morals and sufficient safe alternatives, which is why banning the alternative will further the development you seem to despise.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 08:38:50 2020 No.4423121 >>4421663 I can't feel sorry for coom artists, I just can't. They oversaturated the art community with their souless, repetitive garbage.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 08:42:46 2020 No.4423130 >>4421663 Pedos BTFO haha

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 08:50:39 2020 No.4423139 Pedos and Chomos should kill themselves

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 09:04:50 2020 No.4423152

>>4423121
>tumblr doesn't allow porn
>artstation doesn't allow porn
>deviantart doesn't allow porn
>ko-fi doesn't allow porn
>paypal doesn't allow porn
>patreon is culling porn
>twitter is culling porn

>the art community is furaffinity, hentai foundry, pixiv, a single contentment thread on /ic/ and whatever remains on twitter because they haven't gone all the way with their plans yet

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 09:39:46 2020 No.4423185
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Guys, I know it's fake news but... is it really that difficult to build a friendly Patreon alternative? I mean... there must be responsible persons on 4chan that could work on it without making "le alt-right" platform, right?
Maybe with the help of a kickstarter or something like that? I have little knowledge about all of this and I don't have much money but something must be done. Patreon started as a small business too, even if it takes time is it possible?
All this censorship over nothing as the years pass isn't a good omen for the future.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 09:43:42 2020 No.4423188

>>4421680
>sakimishit getting affected

her crap is more 3D at this point, all the fucking things she draw is off-model and went from "child" to "adult insta thots" because that's the only body type she can draw so she literally won't be affected.

>>4421691
short answer: paypal

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 09:49:53 2020 No.4423194
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>>4421663
patreon has been filled with trash western """"anime""" art anyways, I have been using fantia and pixivfanbox to support my favorite jap artists for as long as it has been around.

I mourn for the rare few japs/gooks who have accounts there that have been hit but ultimately nothing of value has been lost, the jap language barrier will continue to do its work filtering out normalfags, punishing west shit who tries to be anime and the jap lolicon art bastion will remain unmolested, and no trannies on earth will be able to do anything about it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 09:53:43 2020 No.4423197 >>4423194 Wait until the west start flocking on to Pixiv. There are already a few big westerners in there.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 09:57:10 2020 No.4423202

>>4423197
bruh nobody posts on pixiv, everybody posts their latest work on twitter and pixiv is just a glorified archive for most japs who draws consistently, that and nijie also exists so even if pixiv implodes they will just move on to another pasture.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 10:01:59 2020 No.4423210 File: 57 KB, 213x222, kek.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] meanwhile, in Japan...

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 11:50:08 2020 No.4423320

>>4423185
The problem is not that it's literally impossible to build a competing platform that's not "le alt-right". It's that when Patreon is the normalty, and being incredibly hostile, everyone who rejects it appear to reject normalty, everyone who gets rejected by them appear to be unwanted, and every platform that presents itself as an alternative appears to welcome the unwanted, which creates an association implying that you'd only use an alternate platform if you were unwanted and too low for patreon.
There has never been an alt-right for any of these platforms or for any of the creators that use them. The image is an illusion entirely borne of patreon's normalty. If there's an "if people move" condition to a platform becoming normalty, the people will not move unless forced. The people being forced are the ones cast out of normalty. Everyone wishes to be normal, every platform, payment processor, server host, ISP, country legistlature, artist, creator and contributor. They all wish for the least amount of conflict, so when one actor goes rogue everyone follows in a knee-jerk reaction of fear.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 12:10:59 2020 No.4423340

>>4423320
I was talking about stuff like Hatreon when refering to "le alt-right". I get your point though. But I still think there is room for an alternative. You have to be good at marketing but that's not impossible. Maybe the thing is to make a new social media with a funding system integrated by default. Tumblr is dead and Twitter is on its way to kill NSFW stuff. There is a gap to fill. But yeah, this is a whole new level of work.

I guess I'll just have to wait until I get enough money (if that happens one day) to start my own business. Poor thing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 12:12:21 2020 No.4423344 File: 11 KB, 300x162, 300px-James_Franco_First_Time.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >right wing political commentators

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 12:20:46 2020 No.4423361

>>4423340
You're underestimating the jew.
Why do you think all these platforms would suddenly start coming down on NSFW? It's not just their own personal agendas, it's the nose behind the building blocks of their revenue: Payment Processors.

When I say payment processor I don't mean Paypal, it's actually one layer below that. The ones really pushing for this are Mastercard and Visa. Good luck figuring out how to make a platform without access to these.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 12:25:38 2020 No.4423370

>>4421663
Already proven to be BS. They are addressing only creators that draw underage looking characters.
Anime stylization sometimes can cause problems, cause all of the girls look cute, so that can be ambiguous at times.

In any case, they always first contact you about your content and they might freeze your account, but at the end of the day you can always remove any of the stuff that is deemed inappropriate and then decide how you want to move on from there. And any self respecting artist can definely adjust their art to be conform with the regulations.
There's absolutely no reason for concern and this is nothing new.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 12:29:42 2020 No.4423377 >>4423370 Go shill for companies somewhere else. The point is they can cancel you whenever they want for whatever they feel like it and there goes your livelihood down the drain.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 12:31:21 2020 No.4423380 >>4423377 I literally just wrote they don't -just cancel you- and instead they give you the option to pick what to do. FFS, learn to read or something.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 12:39:05 2020 No.4423386 >>4423370 >adjust their art to be conform with the regulation A self respecting artist isn't a spineless cuck bending over for publishers or oversensitive babies m8

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 12:47:29 2020 No.4423402 >>4423386 Then you are free to leave the platform of course. I see no problems here.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 12:50:26 2020 No.4423408 >>4423386 a self respecting artist wouldn't chase trends like big titty generic waifu anime porn, neither.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 12:53:10 2020 No.4423413 >>4423370 You're not an artist if you let others take control of your creative freedom. I can't imagine why any self respecting artist would use Patreon at this point.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 12:53:35 2020 No.4423414 A self respecting artist should be drawing ugly western women and landscapes Also taping a banana to the wall

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 12:54:17 2020 No.4423415 >>4423408 the desire to fuck a desirable opposite gendered form has been a """trend""" since the first days of the human race tho

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 12:57:16 2020 No.4423419 >>4423320 good post. normativity is structurally necessary, basically, and everything that isn't the status quo is defined against it as "alternative", fringe, counter.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 13:00:08 2020 No.4423421 >>4423413 Read this >>4423402

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 13:07:33 2020 No.4423430 >>4423413 Are you dense m8. I love the model fo Patreon (not necessarily Patreon itself) because it allows me to focus on personal work. fuck commissions fortunately there are enough people out there who care about my shit to fund my personal stuff

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 13:10:12 2020 No.4423434 >>4423413 Are you dense m8?. I love the model (not necessarily Patreon itself) because it allows me to focus on personal work. Fuck commissions. Luckily there are enough people out there who care about my shit and fund my personal stuff through Patreon

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 13:12:31 2020 No.4423438 >>4423421 >guy already said "I can't imagine why any self respecting artist would use Patreon at this point." >link him to a post that implies he uses patreon in the first place god corporate shills are pathetic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 13:13:09 2020 No.4423440 File: 164 KB, 532x517, ETAUKcJU8AAilSj.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] my sides >https://twitter.com/Waero_Re/status/1238509848284684289

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 13:14:35 2020 No.4423444 >>4423438 The point was that nobody is forcing you to do it, dumbass.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 13:16:21 2020 No.4423446 >>4423440 This is so ambiguous lol.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 13:16:30 2020 No.4423447 Crabs are so pathetic. They'd suck patreons dick if it brings down certain artists they don't like

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 13:16:41 2020 No.4423449 >>4423444 I can't hear you through the viscous yellow semen seeping out of every orifices on your face, I am afraid you will have to repeat yourself you shameless little man with no backbone.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 13:18:48 2020 No.4423452 File: 49 KB, 378x506, 1584068855582.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4423440 >THICC BIG TIDDIES

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 13:23:15 2020 No.4423460 >>4423447 Someone salty just reported waero for unknown reason probably

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 13:25:16 2020 No.4423465 >>4423452 RIP Small tiddies. Patreon body shaming hard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 13:25:56 2020 No.4423466 >>4421663 https://twitter.com/Patreon/status/1238491813943504900

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 13:27:01 2020 No.4423467 >>4423449 I draw for a living, not to prove some kind of moral high ground lol.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 13:29:07 2020 No.4423472 >>4423466 So is subscribestar actually good?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 13:29:44 2020 No.4423473 >>4423466 Lolipocalypse. Next apocalypse on Reddit, stay tuned.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 13:32:48 2020 No.4423479 File: 179 KB, 1024x1024, ES8bhbsXQAE8t9w.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4423465 Isn't AU tried to "ban" girls with flat chest?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 13:34:35 2020 No.4423481 >>4423440 It's is time the ERA OF MILFS BEGINS!

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 13:36:02 2020 No.4423483 >>4423467 >I draw for a living Well you shouldn't, evidently you would have made a better career as a professional semen storage unit than someone who's churning out saturated but market-approved garbage for >5 USD a month

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 13:47:44 2020 No.4423501 >>4423361 Even SubscribeStar has access to Visa and Mastercard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 13:56:10 2020 No.4423519 >>4423483 Why so butthurt over people that draw for a living? Envy? Religious fanaticity? Just being a random asshole?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 14:16:17 2020 No.4423537 https://www.pixiv.net/fanbox Time to switch to FANBOX.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 14:26:50 2020 No.4423548

2 questions:
Why are more and more platforms cutting out the NSFW, and what's stopping any replacement websites from doing the same in the future? Is it inevitable that as a website grows bigger it becomes stricter?

2. What is stopping a website from using something like crypto to pay for subscriptions instead? As I understand 4chan does it at the moment. What is stopping an artist from coding their own website to deliver auto newsletters and request payments?

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 14:33:04 2020 No.4423563

>>4423548
1. Fictional Drawings are hurting their feelings for some reason.

2. As you said, nobody is stopping an artist from setting shop elsewhere. There are two Patreon alternatives and that is Subscribe Star and Pixiv Fanbox. Both have been gaining momentum as Patreon keeps shitting itself.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 14:35:22 2020 No.4423570 >>4423467 Doesn't that just mean you've become dependent on the platform that polices you?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 14:37:15 2020 No.4423573 >>4423570 He's larping and works at mc donalds

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 14:48:27 2020 No.4423597 >>4423479 >Its like a sexual thing Really curious why they always seem to be the first ones to point this out

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 14:48:39 2020 No.4423599 >>4423440 once this starts hitting bigger and more prolific artists it's over.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 14:54:09 2020 No.4423605 >>4423570 Not really. I can adapt to their policies, and I can also survive off commissions alone too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 14:58:28 2020 No.4423613 >>4423481 doesn't matter, even if the body is mature if you draw them with a cute face it's still not allowed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:02:33 2020 No.4423618 Pixalate anime faces, problem solved. Japanese people were ahead of their time pixalating their porn.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:06:14 2020 No.4423623 File: 11 KB, 640x200, 31d1b88fc78daa0f356b805682a37f76c357b7ed.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4423618 Or just move to Pixiv Fanbox. Problem solved.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:07:27 2020 No.4423625 >>4423623 Doesn't pixiv require you to mosaic censor? At this point I'm thinking you're better off doing that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:09:36 2020 No.4423627 So is loli legal in the US or not

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:11:29 2020 No.4423629 >>4423627 It's not. Over a decade ago some asshat tried, but it was ruled unconstitutional by Supreme Court because fictional drawings fall under the 1st Amendment. Same reason why this country couldn't ban violent and gore filled videogames.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:12:43 2020 No.4423632 >>4423623 Dont you fucking have to take payment in yen

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:14:16 2020 No.4423636 >>4423627 My first physical loli doujins were purchased in the US

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:24:16 2020 No.4423655 File: 53 KB, 594x595, 1583350335915.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4423618 >Pixalate anime faces My sides. Using Kenshiro manly faces is great idea too

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:28:04 2020 No.4423661 >>4421663 Source on who wrote that?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:29:28 2020 No.4423662 >>4423655 or you can really take the piss and just cover them up with like a sour-faced old person's ugly mug

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:31:08 2020 No.4423667 >>4423483 You jealous or something, anon?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:31:29 2020 No.4423668 >>4423627 They are legal in the US. As well as in Germany. The Brits ruled that drawings are real people, as well as Australia. I didn't research other countries.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:34:39 2020 No.4423674 File: 45 KB, 401x289, 02eb0a01c39b4b07de7f3aa6a081ef5c.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4423668 >ruled that drawings are real people

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:38:12 2020 No.4423681 So the retards screeching "if you look at suggestive arrangements of pixels you're raping people/kids" were Brits all along?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:38:27 2020 No.4423682 File: 15 KB, 390x242, miya_180503pixivfanboxmusic01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4423632 https://fanbox.pixiv.help/hc/en-us/articles/360003698754-How-do-I-pay-for-Pledge-

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:39:10 2020 No.4423683 >>4423674 Did you know that you can get prison time in Australia if they deem your silicon sex toy "too young". https://www.sankakucomplex.com/2019/12/29/australian-man-arrested-over-child-like-silicone-butt/

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:40:39 2020 No.4423684 >>4423661 Never mind. Found it. https://www.sankakucomplex.com/2020/03/13/waero-exiled-from-patreon-for-sexualizing-minors-claims-platform-ousting-all-anime/

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:41:16 2020 No.4423686 >>4423683 >being an aussie/leaf lmaooooo at you're lives

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:43:17 2020 No.4423688 >>4423686 I am neither of those, luckily.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:50:50 2020 No.4423694 File: 576 KB, 5130x4750, faces.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4421663 hmm?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:53:14 2020 No.4423700 >>4423694 80s and average are pretty based

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:55:59 2020 No.4423703 >>4423668 it's one thing when companies do this kind of thing, but when your government decides that infringing on fictional persons rights is a crime you're in deep shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:56:33 2020 No.4423705 >>4423700 based on what?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:58:17 2020 No.4423708 >>4421663 This would have been better if it was only loli that got banned.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 15:58:31 2020 No.4423709 >>4423705 based on my experience with /jp/ board culture

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:00:48 2020 No.4423713 File: 192 KB, 693x431, 1559869301300.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hex Maniac's face officially banned from patreon

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:10:36 2020 No.4423722 the irony is patreon isn't even where you'd look for loli shit, so it's really the cow tumor fags that got hit because the faces arbitrarily failed to pass some age check top kek

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:15:15 2020 No.4423729
File: 9 KB, 220x220, 1572531619803.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Just don't draw porn of lolis?

>but I need to draw porn of lolis
just don't do it?

>but I need to draw lolis
just make them cute without getting dick?

>but I really really need to draw porn of anime girls
just don't make them underage

>but I really really really need to draw underaged anime girls getting dick
just don't do that shit and stop being a pedophile?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:16:02 2020 No.4423730 >>4423729 >

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:16:24 2020 No.4423733 >>4423729 It's not about lolis silly pepe poster. Try reading the thread next time

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:17:05 2020 No.4423734 >>4423729 The faces of loli and adult girls in anime look the same. This is the issue.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:17:14 2020 No.4423738 >>4423730 >>4423733 you know you can draw loli cute shit without making them suck dick?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:18:15 2020 No.4423739 >>4423734 >adult girls >neoteny facial proportions nah, fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:18:32 2020 No.4423740 >>4423738 You're not getting what's going on.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:18:57 2020 No.4423743 >just make them cute without getting dick? what if youthful anime girls in cute dresses really turns me on?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:19:26 2020 No.4423744 >>4423740 just don't draw porn? >>4423743 just fap to barely legal porn, idiot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:19:42 2020 No.4423745 >>4423734 Just like asian women

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:20:12 2020 No.4423746 >>4423744 >just don't draw porn? Better yet. Move to Pixiv's Fanbox.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:21:04 2020 No.4423749 >>4423738 And you can draw not loli and get accused of being a pedophile and thrown off the canonical artist funding site. >>4423744 You don't even need to draw porn. Read the thread, read twitter, find what works had to be removed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:21:06 2020 No.4423750 >>4423746 drawing porn is like being a prostitute.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:21:14 2020 No.4423751 >>4423734 >issue

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:22:09 2020 No.4423753 >>4423749 just don't draw le uguu big eyes faces on adult female bodies? retard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:22:28 2020 No.4423754 >>4423753 Just don't draw.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:23:24 2020 No.4423757 >>4423754 you realize you don't need to become a literal prostitute to make money off cute anime girls?

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:23:45 2020 No.4423758

>>4423729
>just don't do that shit and stop being a pedophile?
Lovely projection you got going there. If you cannot differentiate between fiction and reality, then, heh. Do you try to imprison anyone who goes to watch an action movie for participation in vandalism and possibly murder?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:23:57 2020 No.4423759 >>4423750 so if you make an entirely black painting you're a nigger?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:24:15 2020 No.4423761 >>4423750 Drinking a cup of water is like drowning.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:25:22 2020 No.4423762 >>4423758 >>4423759 >>4423761 violence is not the same as lust. and I don't support porn, is like heroine. all porn artists are like those niggers who sell drugs to kids. fuck off. If anything porn should be made illegal.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:25:24 2020 No.4423763 >>4423729 just stop being prejudiced against people because of their sexual identity, shitlord?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:26:23 2020 No.4423766 >>4423763 ok pedo. porn is literally the shittiest low quality genre of art, is not even art, is just garbage.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:27:13 2020 No.4423769 >>4423762 good thing no one takes opinions of seaniggers like you seriously

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:27:25 2020 No.4423770 >>4423758 You know, using mental gymnastics defending loli shit and also anime won’t get it unbanned, right?

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:28:20 2020 No.4423771

lust is not the same as violence.

and I don't support violence, is like heroine.
all action artists are like those niggers who sell drugs to kids.

fuck off.

If anything violent media should be made illegal.

Though I suppose the thread is now over. We've had some productive discussion, at least.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:28:25 2020 No.4423772 this is an attack on beauty art is beauty this is an attack on art

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:28:49 2020 No.4423773 >>4423769 ok, keep making the lowest thing in the art world. pornography will be the lowest demoninator trash. why not get better goals than make money from desperate beta males for instance?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:29:07 2020 No.4423774 >>4423766 Porn is an ancient art form. Respect.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:29:40 2020 No.4423776 >>4423773 Do you honestly think like this though?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:30:50 2020 No.4423779 /ic/'s favorite puritan autist is back at it it seems.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:30:53 2020 No.4423780

>>4423774
>>4423776
nobody cares about le epic anime whore having sex centuries from now.

try to get some taste in art idiots.
porn is always the lowest art shit, is the fast food of art.

it doesn't even quality for the word art.
is just cheap trashy entertainment.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:31:29 2020 No.4423781 >>4423762 cringe, sounds like an underage edgelord wearing naruto headbands to school >>4423771 based and cultured

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:31:57 2020 No.4423783 >>4423780 pyw

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:32:58 2020 No.4423787 File: 278 KB, 1133x500, Screenshot_1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4423733 >>4423740 Litearal nothing is going on. Another lolifag got called out and that's it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:33:41 2020 No.4423789 >>4423770 >using mental gymnastics In what way, shape or form is saying "fiction is not reality" ludicrous?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:37:28 2020 No.4423798 >>4422582 you must be gay then cause that is one curvy hot woman

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:44:40 2020 No.4423813

>>4423787
Again, they weren't loli artists.
They just drew characters with cute faces. The problem here is that characters need to appear obviously old rather than needing to appear obviously not preteen. It means that the age limits are now somewhere around 20-25 years old for realistically proportioned faces because a 19-year old doesn't look that different from a 17-year old. Stylished faces can't have any exaggerated appealing facial features because attractiveness is inherently tied to young age. No ther aspect can be considered because underage (17 yo) characters can have breasts and hips.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:47:45 2020 No.4423819 >>4423813 This is pretty much the reason why the west will eventually just ban anime porn outright

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:49:34 2020 No.4423825 >>4423789 anime is just trash for degenerates just say you're a pedo already my dude

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:52:13 2020 No.4423830 >>4423825 Wrong alley, buddy. Twitter is this way: twitter.com

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:52:38 2020 No.4423833 File: 133 KB, 424x646, azuka.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4423781 >he thinks I watch garbage mainstream hollywood trash lmao >>4423783

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:56:42 2020 No.4423841

>>4423185
First of all, yes, it is. Sure you can copy basic functionality quite fast, but it would be full of bugs and security breaches. Trust me, you don't want someone nicking your users' credit card info. Second is the problem with PR. Why would anyone decide to leave Patreon and go to your website? Most of the people are actually extremely apathetic and see no problem with Patreon. Your only audience would be those rejected from it. That is, cumbrains and "le alt-right", and these already have their circlejerks.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:57:41 2020 No.4423846

>>4423813
Just the other day retards were still arguing about "right" and "wrong" body types, now they've made a 180 turn to "it's all about the faces"? Ironically you can find plenty of completely legal people that look just like teenagers from head to toe so this rule is as arbitrary as it gets.
Good thing I never relied on the West for any of my drawn pornography needs because their autism is quickly going off the charts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:59:57 2020 No.4423850 >>4423833 not even agdg wants you back so just fuck off to reddit or something

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:00:20 2020 No.4423851 >>4423846 Right. The only rule that wouldn't be arbitrary is "drawings are not real people".

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:00:40 2020 No.4423852 >>4423850 Only an /agdg/ poster would say shit this dumb art quality aside.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:01:35 2020 No.4423853 >>4423850 >>4423852 hello fellow agdg tards. post your game.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:05:41 2020 No.4423862

>>4423853
I now realize there are many who are both NGMI and nodev.
What a horrible fate.

Maybe I can help some of them.
For art, it's "no rules, only tools."
For programming, it's "no tools, only rules."
Pick your poison and team up with whoever picks the other one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:08:05 2020 No.4423866 >>4423440 >https://twitter.com/Waero_Re/status/1238509848284684289 My sides, who is this guy to decide on the age of drawings? Lmaoooo.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:09:46 2020 No.4423870 >>4423787 you're as disconnected as the people running the company if you believe this

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:13:19 2020 No.4423877 File: 259 KB, 1448x2048, ETA6xJzWkAED7DL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4423787 This picture is considered as "sexualization of minors" by Patreon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:15:42 2020 No.4423882 >>4423877 MODS

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:28:56 2020 No.4423908 >>4423853 I'm an artist on a game that's been shitposted to hell and back on /v/. Stopped browsing those threads years ago, it isn't fun to look at anymore. /ic/ is at least useful when you hide most of the threads

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:29:04 2020 No.4423909 >>4423877 based loliposter

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:32:01 2020 No.4423914 >>4423850 >agdg >>4423852 >/agdg/ The hell is agdg?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:38:17 2020 No.4423925 >>4423914 >hi bros of the chan,!~ i am a Super newfag, Dont tell him guys

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:41:39 2020 No.4423933 >>4423850 KEK

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:44:00 2020 No.4423936 >>4423925 >he has to know each and every general on /vg/ Disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:45:32 2020 No.4423940 >>4421716 art is inherently a product

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:46:19 2020 No.4423941

>>4423115
Youre justifying the fact that someone is still jerking it to actual children and getting aroused at a kid doing nothing but child things.
>Having found an alternative (jerking off), no child was involved in a sexual act
You just admitted that if he couldnt go to the bathroom to jerk off he wouldve raped a child. A normal, healthy adult does not do that.
Its the argument of the “virtuous pedophile” who totally wont touch kids so its ok, let me babysit for you. Its a stupid argument. Im convinced you are one of them, as pedophiles are known to be manipulative as hell and try to convince people that their sickness is normal, and that most people have it. They dont.
Of course no one is going straight to rape after banning lolicon. Lolicon =/= pedophilia. Most people have no problems circumventing the law to get stuff they want, and rarely is it an issue unless you make it obvious. Also, no, its not fucking easier to access actual child rape porn than it would be to access lolicon porn are you retarded.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:50:45 2020 No.4423945

>patreons ban loli
>lolicons get mad and lie about it, insist all anime ever is getting banned
>idiot victim-complexed weebs (and lolicons acting in bad faith) fall for the meme and start screeching
Funny how every artist that complained about getting frozen just so happens to draw loli/shota shit. No proof all anime is banned, either.
Suffer, nonces. Lying won't make you look more sympathetic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:51:49 2020 No.4423949 is this entire thread just one big pile of bait?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:53:32 2020 No.4423954 >>4423949 Yes. People have a hate boner for those who draw in anime style so they'll side with Patreon' sjw crap

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:55:43 2020 No.4423957

>>4423813
>Again, they weren't loli artists.
>They just drew characters with cute faces.
From Wareo's Pixiv:
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/65166313
From Kakuume's Twitter:
https://twitter.com/kakuume/status/1231919167441260544/photo/2
Both found within 5 minutes. There's probably more graphic shit, but I couldn't be assed to search. Why the need to lie? It's obvious why they'd be banned.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:56:04 2020 No.4423961 >>4423949 any mention of banning loli sets this board's panties in a twist. It's a cave of degenerates

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:56:13 2020 No.4423962 I really don't believe this, because the guy didn't explain at how it ISN'T a child to them, just youthful. He just took it it as is. Something funky is up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:02:09 2020 No.4423973 >>4423957 So it’s just another case of lolicucks falseflagging again? Ok

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:03:28 2020 No.4423976

>>4423961
You don't have to be a degenerate to side with degenerates. I think trannies are mentally ill, but I'm not going to demand that transitioning be made illegal/surgeons shouldn't be paid to do SRS based on that. In a free country it has to be legal to be an asshole so long as you aren't infringing on the rights of other assholes. That's what freedom is, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:03:34 2020 No.4423977 #FreeTheLolis

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:08:54 2020 No.4423983
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>>4423957
This is now child porn?
It's a drawing of a fully clothed girl (with horns). It doesn't contain nudity, it's not sexually suggestive, it's not sexually explicit. It's just cute.
Kakuume's piece is at least sexually explicit. Now your job is to show me that that picture was actually on patreon, because I doubt it ever was.
And then explain what exactly makes these two pictures equally immoral to justify their removal.
And then explain why banning this kind of art is justified.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:10:21 2020 No.4423985 >>4423983 MOOOOOOOOOODS

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:12:51 2020 No.4423992

>>4423983
Take the time to log into Pixiv and check his gallery. I did so after already making that post, and my suspicions were proven correct.
That picture is already suggestive, so go ahead and look at the rest if you're so unconvinced.
I could send you the links, but you've already proven yourself to be dishonest, so do the work yourself.
Sorry, lolifag. No one's falling for your tantrum. I'll be glad when the entire anime fandom leaves you autistic spergs in the fringes where you belong.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:12:59 2020 No.4423994 >>4423983 >it's not sexually suggestive you're just desperate at this point

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:17:22 2020 No.4424004 >>4423992 >censor the dings that I and the other bandwagoners don't like or else It's tragic that anime got popular in the west. Morons like you are why social media is pure cancer.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:20:24 2020 No.4424007

>>4424004
Who's censoring? Because one random platform among others doesn't want to help shill your shitty fap material? Keep crying.
You shat up the anime/manga industry with your coomer shit, and everyone is getting tired of it both in Japan and the west. This is a welcome act, and no one feels sorrow for you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:21:10 2020 No.4424014 >>4423152 >art community >porn If that's all the art community is to you then kindly fuck off to ricenigger land.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:21:29 2020 No.4424015 >patreon >one random platform pretending to be retarded

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:21:52 2020 No.4424017 >>4424004 >Reeeeee stop judging me for liking my degenerate shit. Keep seething lolicuck

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:22:42 2020 No.4424018

>>4423992
Okay, he drew an Etna.
Now justify Patreon's activities.

>>4423994
Maybe you're just a pedophile.
Anon above says that
>An actual pedophile has mental issues that makes them unable to see reality and will confuse a child doing child things as the child coming onto them
I don't see the image being suggestive.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:23:43 2020 No.4424022 >>4424015 Multiple people have pointed to alternatives, but like any typical, lazy coomer, you'd rather bitch and moan about not being served everything in life on a platter.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:27:49 2020 No.4424030 >>4424007 >You shat up the anime/manga industry with your coomer shit Bad try at changing history.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:28:00 2020 No.4424031

>>4424018
>Okay, he drew an Etna.
He drew more than just that. This is what I meant by dishonest.
>Now justify Patreon's activities.
What do you mean? Only people whose opinions don't matter (lolifags/coomers) would think it unjustified to begin with, and those people can't be helped.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:28:55 2020 No.4424036

>>4422626
I think I see what the problem is, assuming this is real. You have idiots that a drawing loli/shota getting slapped it's not that they're anime it's that idiots like these always try the but "it's a 1000 vampire XD" bullshit to justify they're are drawing underaged characters.

The response is obviously to make those idiots fuck off. I bet artist that haven't drawn a single minor aren't getting hit but the ones that have are getting slapped because even if they remove that content it's being able to trust they won't pull some more bs so instead Patreon is just banning it all together.

Pedophiles not even ONCE.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:29:05 2020 No.4424038 >>4424030 >facts >changing history This entire thread is lolicon's bad attempt at changing history, getting called out on their bullshit, and then seething to eternity.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:30:51 2020 No.4424042 >>4424007 Something tells me you have never seen any other anime besides the hypes of the season.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:31:43 2020 No.4424044 >>4424036 >I bet artist that haven't drawn a single minor aren't getting hit They aren't. The two artists that complained are loli artists. They're just false-flagging.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:31:53 2020 No.4424045 >>4424038 See this >>4424042

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:32:07 2020 No.4424047 >>4423479 That was always a myth. Our laws are still more draconian than most, but that small breast thing was never remotely true.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:32:46 2020 No.4424050 >>4424042 >>4424045 Sounds like projection. Have you ever watched a single anime from the 80s or even before?

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:34:24 2020 No.4424055

>>4424014
I could have written the exact same response to the anon I replied to.
The art community is very obviously not all porn. The porn site of it lives in two mainstream platforms and a handful of fetish specific places. The anon is complaining about porn being everywhere in the art community, my post was meant to illustrate that that's false.

>>4424022
Anon wants to be able to sow, reap and eat without the plough, sickle and plate being taken from him.
You need a way to get paid. This policy is probably coming down from the payment processor patreon uses. If your argument is that complaints aren't valid until complaining is all you do, that's the situation you're advocating for. Don't look, it'll get worse soon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:34:51 2020 No.4424057 ahahahah fuck you weebs

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:35:48 2020 No.4424058 >>4424055 >This policy is probably coming down from the payment processor patreon uses. Proof?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:37:19 2020 No.4424060 >>4424057 t. broke ass artist seething he's eternally ngmi

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:38:29 2020 No.4424063 >>4424050 You really wanna play this game, eh? To name a few that I watched, Dragon Ball, Ranma 1/2, Bubblegum Crisis, ...

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:39:53 2020 No.4424068 >>4424060 ahahahahah sow salt reap salt ahahahh

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:39:58 2020 No.4424069 >>4423049 weeeeeeeew

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:40:30 2020 No.4424071 File: 15 KB, 1118x838, 3927f0279ed109e35afa4ed19036d29b.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4424063

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:42:18 2020 No.4424074 >>4423973 Yep, pretty much. But /ic/ is full of idiots that spread misinformation. Just like this reatard grasping at the straws here >>4423983

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:43:58 2020 No.4424077 >>4424071 Of course it's bait. Each and every one of them has some form of nudity in it. In Dragon Ball's case, even a naked Goku as a child.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:44:37 2020 No.4424078

>>4424058
Companies making a profit at current time don't randomly axe their money machines unless something threatens their profits.
There's practically no payment processor that doesn't have a "no sexually oriented services" or "no minors" in their acceptable use policy.
Changing ISPs and datacenters is relatively painless in comparison to having to find a different payment processor. Both are unfavorable to just removing the cause of complaints.
Patreon doesn't actually provide anything but a crowdfunding service. Their whole business is sitting between paying fans and a payment processor.
Which is why I said "probably" instead of "definitely". If you start seeing this kind of rule change on other platforms, it'll signal a change in US law instead.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:46:55 2020 No.4424083 >>4424078 >There's practically no payment processor that doesn't have a "no sexually oriented services" or "no minors" in their acceptable use policy. why are those companies axing their money machines then?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:51:59 2020 No.4424091 >>4424068 >>4423049 same person

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:54:11 2020 No.4424096 >>4424077 Was there a sexual scene with naked kid goku? No? Then shut the fuck up, retard. Those animes you listed are lewded at best.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:54:54 2020 No.4424099 >>4424077 There's a pretty large difference between DBZ's presentation and that of current anime. Cope.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:56:58 2020 No.4424101 >>4424096 >>4424099 By that standard, EVERY anime that airs on TC, besides Ishuzoku Reviewers, is lewded at best.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:57:10 2020 No.4424103 >>4424096 Not him but il share this https://youtu.be/yCIrcQhiZ1A

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:58:00 2020 No.4424106 >>4424101 >on TC on TV

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:58:34 2020 No.4424107

>>4424083
Anon says it's because of Visa and MasterCard. >>4423361
Eventually it comes down to US law. Lolicon is illegal in some US states, so it gets ruled out in every acceptable use agreement.
I really hope that "underage sexualized art is illegal" and "ages of illustrated characters should be judged from the eye size" aren't some vague wordings in a soon to pass US law like FOSTA-SESTA.
And I hope it's not so because I don't want harmless artwork to be replaced by Weimar Germany's child rape pharmacies just because they carry the same legal punishment.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:00:50 2020 No.4424115 >>4424101 More coping. Do you expect to convince anyone with a brain?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:01:52 2020 No.4424117 >>4424107 >>4424078 >caring if coomers get the axe Not in 2020.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:04:50 2020 No.4424120 >>4424096 >>4424099 >>4424103 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg_OiuLnbnc

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:06:24 2020 No.4424123

>>4423762
>>4423758
>If you cannot differentiate between fiction and reality, then, heh.
>violence is not the same as lust.
Bullshit arguments. The thrill of sports and professional fighting is the thrill of watching these or playing a depiction of them in a game.

When you fap to the loli, you are gaining the thrill of fucking her.

The only defense is that professional fights don't have to ever illegally fight people and pedophiles who fap to loli don't ever have to fuck real children.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:06:46 2020 No.4424124 >>4424120 Okay, now compare that to some actual loli shit like Prisma Ilya. Keep pretending they're the same.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:07:14 2020 No.4424125 >>4423479 >But FURRIES had me until the last two examples.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:08:22 2020 No.4424126 >>4424096 >>4424099 reminder that opinions on anime from people who watch shonen-fight-shit into their adulthood should be discarded https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Panties https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQjcSfi8pcw

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:08:27 2020 No.4424127 >>4424123 Okay, Einstein. When are we going to ban GTA for inciting murder, battery, theft and the likes?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:10:23 2020 No.4424129 >>4424124 Fate was a porn (or heavily ecchi, however you view it) series before it got streamlined, bitch. Bodily fluids are a way to fuel mana. No shit that a FATE ANIME WITH LOLIS WOULD BE LEWD. Color me surprised.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:11:20 2020 No.4424131 >>4424127 They would've by now if it didn't make them so much goddamn money

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:11:30 2020 No.4424132 >>4424127 I mean, yea, once you start censoring media based on whether it's deemed "morally appropriate" to consume, you're going to take that step sooner or later.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:12:06 2020 No.4424133 >>4424126 >still projecting DBZ is literal shonen fight shit.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:12:21 2020 No.4424134

>>4424127
We aren't/shouldn't because, even though people who enjoy the thrill of violent or aggressive acts play those games, enjoying the thrill of violent acts doesn't mean you would commit violent crime.

So all lolicons are pedophiles, but lolicons never have to fuck real children.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:13:13 2020 No.4424135 >>4424129 Did you miss the word "like"? Nothing in your post justifies shit, either.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:18:06 2020 No.4424151 >>4424134 >So all lolicons are pedophiles Wrong. That would require a person to be interested in real children.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:19:36 2020 No.4424156 >>4424124 >anime was DIFFERENT back then proves it wasn't >ww-well, i'm not going to address that but instead I'm going to shift the goalpost

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:20:24 2020 No.4424158 >>4423370 No one's as blind as the one who doesn't want to see.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:20:35 2020 No.4424159 >>4424135 You're really incapable of distinguishing between them, aren't you?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:24:33 2020 No.4424168 >>4423440 They'll just keep moving the goal posts to remove him entirely.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:24:45 2020 No.4424169

>>4424044
>>4423983
So basically annoying dated pepe shit aside >>4423729 is right. All these idiots have to do it adapt, you like loli/shota ok sure don't draw them sexually or having intercourse PERIOD. Go to the websites that allow it and stay in your disgusting hole.

I understand why big cooperate websites ban it because they're big and need a lot of maintenance, That shit isn't cheap so they call on ad revenue and Mr. Money bags doesn't want his business associated with a site that allows "child pornography" No shit it's going to get banned.

better adapt pedos times are changing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:25:44 2020 No.4424172 >>4424103 >>4424120 >>4424126 I don’t see anyone getting dicked on, though? What are you trying to prove again?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:26:02 2020 No.4424175 Guys, discussing here won't change anything. Make the noise on their twitter or something.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:26:09 2020 No.4424176

>>4424151
Masturbating to cartoon children is a way to simulate and produce the thrill of having sex with a real child who looks as this cartoon child does or very similarly.

Whether or not such a real child exists is actually less important than the idea of whether such a child can exist. If it can, you are a pedophile for fapping to the depiction.

And yes, being attracted to mature looking teenagers is ephebophilia and fapping to a rendering of a female pornstar is heterosexual, if ur a man

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:29:27 2020 No.4424185 >>4423548 Porn kikes are jealous of the money they're not making in drawn porn and using their nepotism to ruin shit as always.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:31:52 2020 No.4424190 >>4423440 the kangaroo court of patreon

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:31:59 2020 No.4424191 >>4424185 look up projektmelody, anon.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:32:08 2020 No.4424192

>>4424169
Pedophiles aren't going anywhere just because you force them into the shadows and take away their toys.
If this trend continues, in some thirty years they'll be coming for your children instead. An entire generation of them will have grown up without a safe and harmless outlet.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:33:57 2020 No.4424197 >>4424176 As per definition, anyone that plays any game where someone dies, is a literal psychopath. Obviously, they are not. It isn't as black and white as you are trying to make it out to be.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:35:32 2020 No.4424199 >>4424192 >An entire generation of them will have grown up without a safe and harmless outlet. So instead of making porn for them why don't you either get a degree in psychology/neurology and cure them, or join the FBI and stop them before they start.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:36:07 2020 No.4424203 >>4424192 The burden of proof that anyone that consumes "insert thing that hurts your feefees" is actually harmful, lies on you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:37:12 2020 No.4424206 >>4424192 you're seriously delusional if you think pedos stop at loli.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:38:22 2020 No.4424208 >>4424197 Getting thrills out of hurting and killing isn't a trait exclusive to psychopaths. Sports, hunting and professional fighting are legal outlets for this thrill and are no more and no less psychopathic to engage in than playing a violent game.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:38:28 2020 No.4424209

>>4424172
read >>4424007
this idea that anime/manga was SUDDENLY over ran with perverted shit is fucking lie by normies who only watch the big 3
if you wanna argue whether or not lolishit should illegal, go ahead; i don't give a shit because nothing will come of this
but people confidently talking about shit they know NOTHING about pisses me off

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:38:32 2020 No.4424210 >>4423739 I'm sorry you live among pig people but here in Poland girls look "teenage" into their 30's. You gotta put your ugly women in their place and stop giving them power over the lives of others, it's clear they're not qualified.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:40:33 2020 No.4424213 >>4423750 Prostitutes are nice people, unlike sjws.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:40:39 2020 No.4424214 >>4424210 you're a giant liar, your women are fucking ugly

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:40:45 2020 No.4424215 >>4424197 Anyone who plays a game with deaths has a functioning morbid curiosity and a functioning survival instinct. What you understand as pedophilia is actually a lot more common and a lot more normal than you might think.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:41:09 2020 No.4424218 >>4424208 Read my comment once more. You missed the point by a mile.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:44:30 2020 No.4424225 >>4423772 This, all this shit goes back to ugly women wanting to remove all media that allows men to enjoy the existanceof beautiful women.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:47:53 2020 No.4424232

>>4424218
Environment and context are something I would consider, if that's what you mean.
A fighter might not punch a random man out of the ring.
A gamer might not kill a person if removed from the convenience, safety and lack of consequence that exists in a game.
A recreational hunter might not hunt people.

All of these come from craving the thrill of violence.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:50:05 2020 No.4424240 >>4423787 >we will ban you if we don't like your face and call you a pedo to hide the fact Wanna bet the first victims will all happen to be conservatives or right-leaning?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:51:07 2020 No.4424244 >>4424240 Nah. The first big case was Sargon.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:51:48 2020 No.4424246

>>4423783
The anon ain’t wrong. Porn really is the fast food of art, people would consume so much of it, since it’s easy access to pleasure. Just like eating McDonalds, you know it’s shit, but you eat it all the time, since it’s cheap and requires no effort to get full.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:54:55 2020 No.4424252 >>4424232 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkEUfib6Ju8

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:56:08 2020 No.4424254 >>4424246 Oh yeah we should all admire the banana on the wall for longer periods of time compared to those big pair of tiddies drawn

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:56:26 2020 No.4424255

>>4423548
Payment processors dislike working with porn. Apparently it has some of the highest rates of chargeback. Many nsfw commissioners concur that coomers are difficult to work with. Some of these companies (like PayPal) have religious leadership while others go for woke dollars. In the end relatively few people want to publicly stand up for coom, the artists and consumers don’t generate enough sympathy en masse compared to mocking and self righteousness. Societies that have tolerated open raunch have historically been pretty rare.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:58:45 2020 No.4424258 >>4424246 Don't people eat more anime shit than hentai shit? Specially normies.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:59:53 2020 No.4424261 >>4424255 >compared to mocking and self righteousness God I hate it. Those people really need to fuck off with their miserable lives

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:02:18 2020 No.4424266 >>4424261 Personally I’m blaming the coomers. If they weren’t such pains for the payment processors they could continue to silently take their money.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:04:20 2020 No.4424271

>>4424266
I say this because I think knee jerk disgust over raunch might be a deep rooted monkey brain response like fear of snakes and spiders, thus it’s unrealistic to expect to successfully socialize people to tolerate it. Quiet underground discretion might be the best approach.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:04:36 2020 No.4424272 >>4423729 Fuck you I am drawing for the sole purpose of drawing lolis doing sexual things, not for your amusement if you're on board, cool, but nobody dictates what I want

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:07:03 2020 No.4424278
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>>4424258
look at this pic
remember that this is from a site that isn't even geared towards hentai
now imagine if we were to magically see the statistics from sad panda, nhentai, etc.
it is THE most popular form of porn in the world

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:07:37 2020 No.4424279 >>4424272 And you're a pedophile and your work should not be allowed to the general public or degenerate.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:08:50 2020 No.4424281 >>4424272 Then move somewhere else other than patreon, retard. Go to pixiv or some other shithole. Instead of bitching muh freedom of expression you either adapt like that one anon said or move somewhere.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:08:58 2020 No.4424282 >>4424279 Why? They're not real children, retard

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:10:00 2020 No.4424287 >>4424281 I am not considering patreon here, I know that my art won't be accepted on such platforms, I just do commissions

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:10:51 2020 No.4424290

>>4424036
Nobody draws minors. Children are wonky as fuck and utterly disgusting. 99% of loli are short skinny adults with big heads and the only reason we have these discussions are women are unreasonable cunts who hate beauty and cuteness.

Meanwhile gravure and other actual child grooming industries remain untouched because they're funded by kikes and dems.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:15:13 2020 No.4424303

>>4424050
Everyone inthe main cast of Saint Seiya is underage but looks 20+. 16yo Ariel looks exactly the same as 24yo Elsa.
Anime and cartoons in general are not concerned with realistic depictions of shit like age and political busibodies being able to say who can or can't make money with their art off something so vague is reason enough to protest.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:15:18 2020 No.4424304

>>4423479
>which isn't art
There are artistic pieces of people having sex. If one of those people were a child, it would still be art and it would still be CP.
>All art must be protected under free speech
This isn't true. Certain performance art is only not usually thought of as art because the acts necessary were illegal before any of these debates. E.g. Cannibalizing your child to symbolize Saturn eating his own son is unprotected art.
We are okay with this because the acts needed to produce this are unconducive to a safe and orderly society.
>I might not like it but it should exist
See above, why we don't like it is very important to us already and we do not protect all art.

(I do see a flaw in my argument, the "Saturn eating his son" performance art would be legal to own and reproduce, if it couldn't be said to be CP. As only CP, and maybe secret gov. documents, is art/expression that is illegal to own or share in the US.)

"Anti-lolicon" quotes
>drawings are the exact same as the rape of real children
CP doesn't have to be the exact same as child rape to earn its status of illegality, why would drawn CP have to be the same as CP to earn that status?
>i have no proof but I swear it creates pedos
There's no proof that it or real CP create pedos. There's no proof that they don't. Moreover, it's porn that's created and enjoyed by real pedos (This is FAR less deniable in Japan, where the concept of loli comes from) and it spreads the ideas of children being fucked by adults/sexualized.

If you remove all of this from CP, I.E. if you wanted to say that pics/vids of real kids getting raped are not proven to create pedos, and who the content comes from and who likes it don't matter, and it doesn't matter which ideas it spread:
Why make it illegal and not make footage of adults being raped or tortured or killed illegal?
Are you okay with the former being illegal and not the latter? If so, you are okay with us making subjective exceptions when it comes to minors.
1/2

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:18:01 2020 No.4424309 >>4424077 Also Bulma's teen t&a at least three times.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:19:59 2020 No.4424311 >>4424290 >Children are wonky as fuck and utterly disgusting children are beautiful, they're pure from the malice that festers inside each adult that have been bathed in societal bile and acid

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:21:41 2020 No.4424313 >41 results for pedo wew all these seething roasties

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:22:26 2020 No.4424315 >>4424151 Where does the term loli come from then?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:23:15 2020 No.4424317 >>4424309 I've only listed Goku because he's been explicitly shown completely nude on multiple occasions. But yeah, there are many that include Bulma as well, I linked a compilation here >>4424120

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:23:37 2020 No.4424319 >>4424313 >cope

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:23:42 2020 No.4424320 >>4424176 You just admited you're a pedo.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:24:49 2020 No.4424326 >>4424315 At 01:35 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkEUfib6Ju8

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:25:57 2020 No.4424332 >>4424278 Friend, combine all of the non-hentai porn tags together. They tower over hentai.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:30:17 2020 No.4424345 >>4423194 based patreon making seething weebs broke

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:32:21 2020 No.4424348 >>4424320 >No u

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:34:29 2020 No.4424353 >>4424311 lol kids are cruel as fuck, they also look like they were drawn by a /beg/ and always smell like piss. Stop fetishizing them you pedo.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:38:22 2020 No.4424360 >>4424313 Stop shitting on your own kind, roastie.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:39:24 2020 No.4424363 >>4424311 You sound like those lolicucks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:39:36 2020 No.4424365 >>4423440 >Some details like a big head, big eyes and short height can make a character appear younger /ASG/ HAS BEEN ETERNALLY BTFO TIME TO READ SOME FUCKING LOOMIS YOU PATHETIC WEABOO NIGGERS

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:39:46 2020 No.4424366 >>4424353 Cruel? They're true to the human nature Smell of piss tells of bad hygiene I don't understand where there's fetishizing in appreciating one's beauty

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:40:50 2020 No.4424368 >>4424363 what's a lolicuck?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:42:12 2020 No.4424370 >>4424368 Another name for lolifags

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:42:12 2020 No.4424371 >>4424311 haha no

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:42:38 2020 No.4424373

>>4423479
>>4424304
>it's bad because sexual thing
It's bad because we've made an exception when it comes to minors and you are okay with that by virtue of the "rape of real children" line.
>fantasy rape and zoophilia are okay tho
It's not illegal to share footage of adults and animals being raped. It is illegal to share footage of children being raped. We've made an exception when it comes to children.
>yeah i'm a furry
See above, unless this is the argument that furries rape animals. In that case, they shouldn't rape animals. While footage is legal, the act is not, in some states.

TL;DR/Big point:
We as a society agreeing to ban CP is a bigger deal to this conversation than most people might think. Child sexualization is the one crime where possessing footage of it occurring is illegal and that has MASSIVE implications for our collective mindsets when it comes to this crime.
It means 2D CP defenders may always be fighting a losing battle against feelings and hunches because irl CP may be banned largely because of feelings and hunches.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:42:51 2020 No.4424374

Anyone who actually wants to read about pedophiles and child molesters, here ya go https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Digitization/149252NCJRS.pdf
Its old (1992) and may be outdated by now due to advancements in research, but its still useful. Posting because we have retards who genuinely defend them in this thread.
>>4424350
I get what youre arguing I think. It is a weird standard to have viewing cp be illegal but not viewing the rape of animals or adults. I believe it is illegal to share those two though, but that depends on the country and individual laws. That definitely does affect peoples mindset more, as when they look at loli they may think its cp and should be illegal, but may look at a drawing of an adult being raped and just think ‘gross’.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:44:07 2020 No.4424376 >>4424363 >>4424370 Do you even know what a "cuck" is? Lmao If you had a girlfriend, you would be one, more than likely

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:46:28 2020 No.4424378

>>4424374
Meant for >>4424373

Irl CP is banned because the sharing of it encourages continuous exploitation of children, and the only people who would have real CP are likely to make their own. Loli doesnt have this problem because its a drawing that involves no harm.
Videos of adults and animals being raped have the same issue, so I believe they should be treated the same as CP.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:47:59 2020 No.4424383 >>4424158 You realize the irony of this statement, right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:50:56 2020 No.4424389 >>4424376 Are you retarded? Why aren’t you shitting other anons for the usage of fag in every sentence? Oh wait, I must have touched a nerve by calling you a lolicuck. :)

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:52:58 2020 No.4424393 >>4424252 Hahaha, what a pile of bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:59:36 2020 No.4424407 >>4424389 >I must have touched a nerve by calling you a lolicuck. :) Take your own advice lol >Are you retarded? Why aren’t you shitting other anons for the usage of fag in every sentence?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:04:04 2020 No.4424418 >>4424407 Yep you are retarded.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:06:37 2020 No.4424425 >>4424418 Takes one to know one

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:08:45 2020 No.4424432

>>4424378
There's no point in engaging in this discussion, really. The anons who approve of Patreons new policy are just repeating the same tired talking points over and over and throwing around buzzwords, regardless of what anyone else says.

I mean, holy seething lolicuck pedotranny boomercope based department, what the fuck has happened to this place over the past couple years?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:09:37 2020 No.4424434 >>4424425 >n-NO y-you are the retarded one This confirms it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:12:07 2020 No.4424441 >>4424432 You implying lolicons don’t parrot the same shit as well, lmao.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:13:15 2020 No.4424443 >>4424441 >he's eating his poo-poo too daddy stop being a human piece of garbage

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:13:48 2020 No.4424446

>>4424432
Yeah, nobodys gonna change their minds. The people who hate loli are just gonna keep calling it pedophilia and try to ban it.
Im guessing its due to it being fairly accessible, and anyone being free to post. Also, the edgy persona thanks to the media. Best you can do is try to continue how you want it to be.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:16:22 2020 No.4424452 >>4424443 Stop being a hypocritical piece of shit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:17:24 2020 No.4424453 >>4424443 >It’s ok when we do it

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:17:55 2020 No.4424454 >>4424453 >what is reading comprehension

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:19:53 2020 No.4424458 >>4424454 You want a medal?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:21:53 2020 No.4424459 >>4424458 what did he mean by this?

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:27:37 2020 No.4424467
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>>4424374
>>4424378
I'm looking and it seems that, in the US, there are no specific laws for sharing animal rape footage but that doing so is subject to pic related's conditions (the Miller test).

With community standards/average person being on a national level, rather than a regional level, for content exclusively shared on the internet.
Possession is not illegal.
Sharing would probably fail the Miller test but is not specifically illegal.
>the sharing of it encourages continuous exploitation of children
I'm REALLY not trying to be difficult, but you can't prove that the sharing of it incites people to make it and that's important for our side of this.
>and the only people who would have real CP are likely to make their own
Is this statement stronger than something like "The only people who would have images of animal abuse/suicide/thievery/fighting are likely to do that themselves"? If so, how would you prove this? If the quote is also true, why aren't we making any non-fictional depictions of illegal acts illegal to possess and share?

I am really not trying to be a dick. My argument is that we don't need what you're saying to ban CP because maybe just failing the Miller test is enough to blanket ban it specifically forever.

Here's a bridge, since you seem to be pro-loli:
It's not illegal to have medical journals and things like NatGeo mags showing naked or topless children. These aren't considered porn. Let's say someone else is doing this.
Assume the context the pictures were taken is the same, for the kids at least, they're just asked to be natural. They're not being harmed, influenced and coerced more than the journal/NatGeo kids.
EXCEPT, the pics are used in a prurient way. The webpage of the photographer crops the pics to focus on the genitals and asses of these children and labels the section some pervy thing and peddles it to pedos.

Should this be illegal? It's basically a NatGeo guy turning his work into porn but the kids are unnamed or cropped out

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:31:12 2020 No.4424476 >>4424459 Retardation?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:37:43 2020 No.4424487 We have this "debate" every fucking week

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:44:33 2020 No.4424497

>>4424467
Im pro loli in the sense of ‘its harmless on its own.’ I dont like it, but not liking something isnt enough to ban it or make it a crime, in my mind.
I really suggest you read the pdf I linked, because it addresses several things you mentioned here in relation to pedophiles. Some of it can even be attributed to other people, like the need for validation.. Normal people can share things such as suicide videos, thieving, and everything else you mentioned without it promoting anything. The only people that would create their own are those that are ill themselves. Theres plenty of videos of suicides online that are often shared around, but the only people that look at these videos and produce their own are those that are mentally ill and already considering suicide, or people who get off to that type of thing and find victims who fall into the category above. The same for thievery. You can find communities online of petty shoplifters who try to justify what they do by using media and irl events about thieving. Many things are harmless on their own, but validate those that already fall into that side. People look for validation in what they do and will actively seek out media that gives them that validation, and produce their own to show similar minded people.
I do agree its difficult to prove, since cause and effect arent quite so black and white. However, there is still a pattern you can look to and adhere by.
Youre not being a dick, its a fair argument, and its interesting to hear.
The last thing you mentioned is almost word for word talked about in the pdf. I dont know if its considered illegal, but that type of content is used in court cases to prove someone is a pedophile.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 23:47:13 2020 No.4424656 >still using cash processor based in UNITED STATES OF AMERICA LMAO

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 23:52:03 2020 No.4424666 >>4424487 And nothing changes. Think of all the work/practice we could get done.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 00:00:34 2020 No.4424671 >>4421663 They go against nsfw depictions of underage characters and I'm supposed to NOT be ok with this? Just draw safe, normal situations then.

Anonymous Sat Mar 14 01:11:29 2020 No.4424722

>>4424206
At no point did they say that giving them an outlet stops all of it. Step one is making it clear that all pedophiles aren't child molesters. There's too many people that are scared to to talk about this so the probably will likely only get worse.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 01:31:18 2020 No.4424735 >>4423787 >mommy, what's damage control?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 01:33:31 2020 No.4424736 >>4424373 2D fiction isnt CP you fucking dog whistler.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 01:46:20 2020 No.4424746 >>4424736 It's literally what the country that started all of this see it as. Japan just has less shame about their pedophilia.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 02:15:31 2020 No.4424774 >>4423729 That picture you posted is a loli, no you don't get to appeal this decision you sick fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 02:58:27 2020 No.4424838 >>4424050 My favorite fap shows and manga are from the 80s so you're a seething retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 03:09:33 2020 No.4424849 >>4424368 The term "fag" turned into "cuck" a few years ago when this site got overrun by reddit underages. Neither of them meant anything beyond expressing your seethe toward a thing or group

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 04:48:03 2020 No.4424947 File: 61 KB, 500x375, e0358504_12211768.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4424050 >Have you ever watched a single anime from the 80s or even before? based zoomerweeb, japs have been sexualizing children since the 60s

Anonymous Sat Mar 14 05:14:33 2020 No.4424975

>>4424947
Whoa but where is the dick? Didn't you follow the discussion? You know it only counts when it's a character getting dicked bro
I've always liked lewd shit from the 80s because characters tend to look less skinny than they do now and they had less reservations about a character's age (not as much of that Age:Unknown or Age:1,337 nonsense). Sucks that a lot of the stuff from back then are a pain to track down

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 07:01:51 2020 No.4425044 File: 157 KB, 516x440, 145754365347358.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4423655 >pixelated feet and armholding threads on /h/ is not a joke now

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 08:24:16 2020 No.4425151 File: 97 KB, 522x820, 535346.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >add age lines is this patreon approved now?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 08:35:36 2020 No.4425166 >>4425151 not ugly enough, add more

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 08:54:56 2020 No.4425201 >>4425151 Even without the wrinkles, this still looks like shit.

Anonymous Sat Mar 14 09:14:22 2020 No.4425233

>>4423729
>Just don't draw porn of lolis?
Not a question.
>just don't do it?
Also not a question.
>just make them cute without getting dick?
Also not a question.
>just don't do that shit and stop being a pedophile?
Also not a question.

>>4423763
>just stop being prejudiced against people because of their sexual identity, shitlord?
ALSO NOT A QUESTION.

Anonymous Sat Mar 14 09:51:38 2020 No.4425273

>>4421663
>basically all Japanese styles can be said to be out
LOL coomers BTFO
But this reeks of a gimmick to ban straight porn on arbitrary grounds, so they can leave male underage porn that LGBTP fujoshits love so much and big players like Sakimichan untouched.
>Sakimicuck going to actually have to work for her pay now.
They can just say her style is not anime enough for a ban.
You should know the tranny mafia's MO by now: take a definition that allows for wiggle room and include everything you dislike in it by leveraging on people's fear of association by proxy.
Eventually this will spread to drawings with no sexual content in them. Be straight male, draw woman, get canceled. Just wait.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 10:08:21 2020 No.4425299 Gundam is dead

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 13:29:59 2020 No.4425627 >>4425299 what does that have to do with anything here?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 15 12:27:38 2020 No.4427276 >>4421663 >'Anime' art will no longer be allowed on Patreon Good.

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