/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

File: 509 KB, 2197x1041, C2xP8PQVEAU_dXI.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

/asg/ - Anime Study General Anonymous Mon Mar 9 16:35:50 2020 No.4415726 [Reply] [Original]

Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0
https://youtu.be/t_IODIIYAe0

Make it Stick: The Science of Successful Learning:
http://gen.lib.rus.ec/book/index.php?md5=F0581EBF3D1D926E1A67127383C97350

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Keep most of your personal works for /alt/ or the other critique threads. Here we should be drawing copies from good anime styled references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

Effective Art Study Guide:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cK9q7oeFRE58MVaSgUql662iGqCXC8Ah

General Art Overview:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz_mE9a29gsEd09TemJMNTJMWGs

Japanese Book Collection:
https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!sddDyarD

Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/Yz2scAEc

Discord:
https://discord.gg/3bwdfRk

Previous Thread:
>>4408615

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 16:37:20 2020 No.4415730 File: 618 KB, 2178x2463, CwbdL37UoAEVCOS.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] https://twitter.com/ryusukemita

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 16:37:50 2020 No.4415731 >>4415726 I sometimes wonder whatever happened to the original /asg/ founder.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 17:30:34 2020 No.4415790 >>4415731 probably he get tired of all the shitty discussions of copyfags vs fundifags

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 17:31:32 2020 No.4415793 These threads are worth posting to or no?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 17:32:59 2020 No.4415800 >>4415793 be the change you want to see in /ic/

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 17:33:18 2020 No.4415802 >>4415793 It's a double edged sword, post at your own risk.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 17:34:36 2020 No.4415809 >>4415802 Nvm me, thought this was the social media sharing one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 17:34:47 2020 No.4415811 >>4415790 I doubt it. He kept posting these threads even when they got deleted.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 18:45:31 2020 No.4415934 File: 1.56 MB, 2268x4032, 20200309_184046.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4415487 fixed face. is this better

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 18:47:52 2020 No.4415938 File: 217 KB, 506x900, 20200309_184046.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4415487 fixed face. is this better

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 19:05:38 2020 No.4415956 Been asking this general for like, 2 years? about a good CSP drawing process and I never got any convincing replies. I'm using like 100 layers per drawings, that can't be right.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 19:07:06 2020 No.4415961 >>4415956 Imagine stagnating for 2 years. Yikes. Just keep asking the question. If you haven't figured it out by now, you might just in another 2 years.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 19:10:24 2020 No.4415966 >>4415961 I stagnated for 1 year or so. Quality increased a bit but speed is my biggest problem. I'm as slow as the first day because I use hundred of layers.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 19:10:50 2020 No.4415967 >>4415956 1 - sketch 2 - ink 3- base colors 4 - shadow 5 - light another batch of layers for background

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 19:12:08 2020 No.4415970 >>4415811 Are we talking about aqua or the other person?

Anonymous Mon Mar 9 19:14:32 2020 No.4415977

>>4415967
Thanks for trying but that's bullshit. What about the different colors for different parts of clothing, for hairs, eyes, etc? They need their individual layer so you can clip the shadow and light layers, and then more layers for different shadows, different highlight, and then more layers for ambian light, post process, etc

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 19:19:11 2020 No.4415985 I feel like giving up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 19:21:26 2020 No.4415991 >>4415985 post your work and the council will decide your fate

Anonymous Mon Mar 9 19:22:49 2020 No.4415995

>>4415966
There is no definitive answer for this. However from the top of my head you can ctrl click your canvas to display which layer the thing is actually on and ctrl shift click or shift click to jump to that layer right away. Default bindings might be different however i dont remember

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 19:25:41 2020 No.4415999 >>4415991 I need no council when my fate is obviously going nowhere

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 19:31:30 2020 No.4416003 >>4415977 Color selection tool and select the color of the base layer, let's say the red boots, now paint what you need to paint for that. Repeat it for every other different base color.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 19:35:31 2020 No.4416010 File: 1.28 MB, 2721x1443, loomis grind.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] my third chinese little girl reconstruction with help from /beg/

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 19:39:25 2020 No.4416017 >>4416003 ..damn, I feel dumb Thanks. I'll try checking the advenced way to select and force myself to use less layers

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 19:46:37 2020 No.4416036 >>4415539 Where could I find it ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 19:47:52 2020 No.4416038 File: 395 KB, 1537x2090, 49370C14-086C-4980-A3A4-C21081711BC3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4416010 how do i loomis

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 19:50:04 2020 No.4416042 >>4416038 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EPNYWeEf1U&list=PL39135B8D190B7C97 watch the entire playlist and start by practicing the first video

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 20:20:14 2020 No.4416088 >>4415985 I feel that every day. Still here though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 20:29:26 2020 No.4416099 We're all going to make it, bros. Just keep drawing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 20:34:26 2020 No.4416112 >>4416088 Exactly, I need to leave this place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 20:35:07 2020 No.4416113 >>4416112 By "here" I meant I'm still drawing. I don't mind /ic/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 20:38:13 2020 No.4416117 File: 3.80 MB, 4608x3456, okaylol.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] copy copy copy we don't need fundies

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 20:40:26 2020 No.4416121 >>4415790 >all the shitty discussions of copyfags vs fundifags I'm new here, so what really is the fastest and best way? Can't you just do both?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 20:42:06 2020 No.4416123 >>4416121 it's a fucking strawman battle, and if you're not a troll just ignore it and draw

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 20:45:16 2020 No.4416129 >>4416121 >new >not reading the sticky

Anonymous Mon Mar 9 20:46:01 2020 No.4416131

>>4416121
Copying builds your visual library and raw intuition.
Fundies helps you systematize and clarify your intuition.
As long as you're drawing and actively trying to correct your mistakes then you'll get there eventually, it doesn't matter much what path you take.

Anonymous Mon Mar 9 21:01:29 2020 No.4416161

>>4416121
Both sides of the argument need to realise that copying and fundies aren't mutually exclusive.
You copy something using the fundies.
You learn the theory behind the fundies, which are very simple, then you practice those fundies by copying.
There's no reason to practice each fundie individually like most people seem to be doing.
Why draw 1000 boxes to learn perspective if you can instad draw 1000 boxes while constructing anime drawings?
You'll build your visual library while also learning fundies.

Anonymous Mon Mar 9 21:14:21 2020 No.4416188

I've been studying some Vilppu and I just watched that one video of Yoh Yoshinari drawing and realizing that he's doing the exact same thing Vilppu does. The way he uses his lines to lead the eye around, the way they flow into each other, the way he builds form even when it's more simplified than a normal human figure, it's the same stuff. The final contour arises out of the consideration he gives to the flow of the gesture and the form. All the same principles are at play.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 21:17:58 2020 No.4416197 >>4416188 Vilppu did get dragged into teaching animation long ago if you didn't know.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 21:19:46 2020 No.4416201 >>4416188 Any link m8?

Anonymous Mon Mar 9 21:21:50 2020 No.4416205

>>4416188
Maybe to a certain degree but what Yoh Yoshinari does can't really be called gesture, it looks more like loose sketching and simplifying the forms.
Most animators work more with line of action than gesture. Although those do ofter get
confused even though they're different things.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 21:23:45 2020 No.4416210 >>4416201 https://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=2-0aucD8By0

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 21:24:48 2020 No.4416214 >>4416201 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-0aucD8By0

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 21:25:57 2020 No.4416215 >>4415956 There is no right process. If 100 layers work out well for you, so be it

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 21:29:42 2020 No.4416221 >>4416214 Thanks. And where/how are you studying vilppu?

Anonymous Mon Mar 9 21:31:05 2020 No.4416225

>>4416205
Vilppu's conception of gesture is closer to what people would think of as sketching. He specifically advises against the "strong graphic statement" of stuff like line-of-action or the kind of gesture Proko teaches and instead encourages using as many lines as you need to convey the action of the pose, and making sure you always pay attention to the flow. That's what I see Yoshinari doing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 21:32:09 2020 No.4416228 >>4416221 A combination of his Renaissance Figure Drawing and the Drawing Manual. I'm gonna watch the Vilppu Studio stuff too because I heard it's better in some respects.

Anonymous Mon Mar 9 21:33:46 2020 No.4416235
File: 382 KB, 506x900, cherry.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>4415938
Better but face is chunkier than you want it to be, neck is curved (common beg mistake) but most anime girl front facing views have a straight-as-an-arrow necks. Hair is also weirdly round, should be more pointed at the end but also organic. Work on confident lines.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 21:33:59 2020 No.4416237 >>4416225 There's a difference between simply sketching and gesture. Notice how Yoh mostly focuses on the contour while Vilppu strongly advices to not worry about contour.

Anonymous Mon Mar 9 21:39:36 2020 No.4416252

>>4416237
But he's not actually worrying about the contour. He's worrying about the action and the form. The contour comes about as a consequence of the attention paid to those two things. He's analyzing and refining what he sees in his head, not copying it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 21:43:09 2020 No.4416266 >>4416252 Whatever works for you. I wasn't trying to say that Vilppu's method doesn't work, I was just saying they're not that similar. But if it works for you, go for it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 21:45:43 2020 No.4416273 >>4416003 colour selection tool?

Anonymous Mon Mar 9 21:46:44 2020 No.4416276

>>4415985

Don't give up, Anon. You might be at the lowest point of the learning curve; the point when you realize how much you don't know about something. This is the point you can truly tackle your short comings. I know its hard, but if you push though you'll come out stronger.

Keep going, Anon, you can do it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 21:54:05 2020 No.4416287 >>4416273 Yeah, it's selection tool but with the setting to select the same color of an entire layer, ignoring if there are something between them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 22:40:02 2020 No.4416345 >>4416228 >Renaissance Figure Drawing and the Drawing Manual Not the anon that asked, but has it been uploaded somewhere?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 9 23:12:06 2020 No.4416393 When I'm starting Loomis is it fine to trace proportions? I tried doing it by reference but it resulted in an distorted abomination.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 00:02:22 2020 No.4416464 >>4416393 Its fine to trace, but try to copy it then draw it from imagination afterwards.

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 00:08:47 2020 No.4416473

>>4416393
i'm not sure how to reply to this.
you're going to be drawing abominations for a while.
if you're starting with loomis, he begins with potatoheads that need no proportions, and i'm guessing it's for the exact reason you found.

no, it's not fine to trace during practice instead of learning to judge proportions.
but it is alright to make any marks you want on your reference to help clarify shapes and especially to make guidelines to measure against. also make sure you're actually measuring, not just expecting to eyeball at first.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 00:11:58 2020 No.4416476 >>4416393 Don't start with Loomis. Perspective and rendering first.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 03:35:56 2020 No.4416692 >>4416393 when you're watching tutorials or reading beginner books they're drawing at their full professional capacity. You're supposed to draw everything much much worse as long as you're learning from your mistakes and try to improve

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 03:38:07 2020 No.4416696 >>4416345 https://mega.nz/#F!rYhFlIQL!OX7slmxiS3Vn6JGsY9mUBw!aAw0lKzY

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 03:49:20 2020 No.4416705 >>4416692 This explains so much.

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 04:45:49 2020 No.4416753
File: 168 KB, 964x542, Famous Manga Artists Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Drawings - YouTube - 6_55.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

this guy whyt manga has been drawing """anime"" for about and always pushes fundies and loomis, yet something about his art is """anime""" art is soulless, something seems to be missing. You can tell his drawings aren't authentic and made by a non-japanese person. Why do western struggle with this? I'm starting to honestly believe that learning Loomis and other fundienigger shit handicaps your aesthetic and forces you to perceive drawing in only one way.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 04:58:49 2020 No.4416767 >>4416010 looks promising good luck anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 05:54:11 2020 No.4416814 >>4416753 Araki's drawings compared to the one you posted have soul because he has better fundies, has been a serialized mangaka since he was 20, that's the best training you can have.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 06:05:02 2020 No.4416825 >>4416814 he's the only one, most mangaka learn by copying. Fundies only limit you

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 06:05:26 2020 No.4416826 stop it stop it stop it

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 06:27:20 2020 No.4416844 >>4416825 >he's the only one No, he also learnt from copying

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 06:55:18 2020 No.4416868 >>4416826 lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 07:07:03 2020 No.4416887 If you feel like you can draw anime without fundies, then just fucking do it. No point in arguing about it EVERY FUCKING THREAD.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 07:57:30 2020 No.4416965 What exactly do you guys mean by "fundies"?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 07:59:36 2020 No.4416968 >>4416965 People just keep poking the beehive. More drawing, less arguing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 08:05:00 2020 No.4416981 >>4416968 Nah I'm really wondering. Are fundies the fundamental like perspectives? Drawing boxes or something?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 08:06:24 2020 No.4416986 >>4416228 >>4416696 Wew this will take a while to dl thanks

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 08:23:17 2020 No.4417023 >>4416696 nice, didn't realize there was a mega for that set. >1gb+ per file fug

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 08:25:33 2020 No.4417027 Just download Vilppu's drawing manual instead. He even explains his method better in that than in the NMA course.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 08:28:27 2020 No.4417028 >>4417027 i liked the drawing manual series. i was just curious what was going on with the nma one and was too lazy to do a trial

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 08:33:51 2020 No.4417033
File: 3.13 MB, 2286x1616, Illustration2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

drawing an anime eye from scratch by me

...if anybody is interested, i just never found a tutorial that doesn't automatically assume you can draw the black part it just kinda jumps in y'know

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 08:35:18 2020 No.4417035

>>4417028
As far as I can tell there's not new information given in the NMA course that isn't in the manual.
If you need to see videos of how he does it, there are a lot on youtube for free.
Although the NMA ones are higher quality, so you might want to get it just for that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 08:40:40 2020 No.4417043 >>4417033 you did that? can you draw from a different angle?

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 08:45:42 2020 No.4417049

>>4417043

yeah a year ago, just found it on my hard drive

like in profile? well yeah I can make a tutorial for that too if you'd like but i feel like it would be slightly redundant.

maybe ill make one that combines vilppus head and eye tutorials as well, after you watch those videos you can pretty much draw anything on the head from any angle anyways

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 09:23:19 2020 No.4417101 File: 65 KB, 408x409, Illustration2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4417049 still works even digitally noice a year later kek

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 09:25:03 2020 No.4417103 File: 1.03 MB, 2480x3508, q4ARliyLFouWRhb8I2j0WQSTL4yJxNI2eNaid08bORw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4417043

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 09:25:09 2020 No.4417104
File: 258 KB, 800x994, 1583162715070.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Is it fine to start from zero by learning heads? I heard some people say it was a bad idea but at the same time Loomis starts with heads in "Fun With a Pencil".
I'm just trying to find a progression that makes sense since I can't copy with 0 fundamentals.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 09:28:31 2020 No.4417108 File: 326 KB, 557x670, uguu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4417103 uguu

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 09:32:45 2020 No.4417116 >>4417104 Doesn't really matter what you start with. Most people start with heads because that's the part that will really sell your drawing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 09:38:07 2020 No.4417125 >>4417108 based

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 09:58:30 2020 No.4417143 Any good character perspective tutorials? Or should I buy one

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 10:07:26 2020 No.4417156 File: 18 KB, 406x308, 1582956223086.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] are there any good coarses on writing and directing tv shows and anime

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 10:32:01 2020 No.4417194 File: 155 KB, 1004x1266, 1555716884787.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4417143 Pls respond or the girl get it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 10:49:37 2020 No.4417218 >>4417143 There's that one cirno artist, krenz and KJG. That's about it. Sakimichan has a few things on it too I think.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 11:04:18 2020 No.4417249 >>4417218 Thanks, krenz's stuff looks ok. I've also looked at guides by 'yuchenghong' but I dunno if it's good. Anyway finding it all for free is the hard part.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 12:14:48 2020 No.4417320 >>4416464 >>4416692 How long should I practice the references and studies before I move on with each thing?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 13:23:54 2020 No.4417399 File: 523 KB, 1402x954, 5AIIk7yeCQ.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4417033 >>4417101 Anon I'm sorry, but your eyes scream Western anime My eyes drawing practice btw

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 13:26:11 2020 No.4417403 >>4417399 How do I gain your power level anon? Even that hair is wonderful. The face, everything.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 13:43:35 2020 No.4417440 >>4417403 I've drawn for 5-6 years already. My skill is just average, there's a lot of people improve faster than me in that period.

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 13:47:07 2020 No.4417446

>>4417320
There's 2 ideas behind it.
One is to study and copy a ref until you got it 100% perfect.
The other is to study and copy a ref to the best of your abilities and then move on to the next.
Basically quality vs quantity.
I would advice to do a mix of both.
Do a lot of quantity work and every now and then really challenge yourself to get something 100% accurate.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 13:48:53 2020 No.4417449 >>4417440 >tfw you're way below average and there's people who are even faster I'm at about 5-6 years too, but I draw like >>4415938

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 13:50:39 2020 No.4417451 File: 513 KB, 1400x1900, cool.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hey do you guys have any tips on animesque rendering. Usually I'm complimented for my rendering but it's not what i call anime quality

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 13:53:44 2020 No.4417459 >>4417451 It's all about the edges and gradients. I figure they use a lot of lasso and tools to get perfect areas to brush over.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 13:56:16 2020 No.4417466 >>4417446 Thanks anon, there is much for me to do and I reckon that finishing Loomis will maybe even take a year. I will persist though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 13:58:03 2020 No.4417470 >>4417451 How your rendering looks like?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 13:59:39 2020 No.4417475 File: 612 KB, 1000x1388, fubuki.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4417470 I'm the fubuki fag from last thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 14:00:35 2020 No.4417478 >>4417475 That looks anime to me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 14:03:31 2020 No.4417487 >>4417475 Looks fine to me. I see stuff like this on pixiv all the time.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 14:08:26 2020 No.4417495 File: 85 KB, 550x973, EFmxzUiUYAAvpKf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4417487 >>4417478 I disagree i don't think it has the same polish as something like this

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 14:15:08 2020 No.4417510

>>4417495
Well anime isn't about polish so that's a non-issue. It's a style. It looks anime. If you mean that this artist is more skilled, then yes. That's true. Your artwork isn't extremely skilled, but the style is there. You could always work on the fundamentals, but style is much more difficult. A lot of people can't even hit the look. It's a lot easier to progress if you can hit a certain look already.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 15:02:55 2020 No.4417571 >>4417495 If anything, I guess you could try using more hard edges in your shading. I think what gives good anime art such a nice soft but somehow still solid look is the right mix between soft and hard shadows.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 15:05:25 2020 No.4417574 >>4417156 >are there any good coarses on writing and directing tv shows and anime bump for curiosity

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 15:06:49 2020 No.4417579 >>4417156 >>4417574 I don't know about any existing courses but I know that in april Steve Ahn is doing a storyboarding course.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 15:07:43 2020 No.4417581 >>4416696 Thanks!

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 15:09:16 2020 No.4417584 >>4416965 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Aplx3ETh6U

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 15:39:12 2020 No.4417633 >>4417579 The same guy with an overpriced drawing cours that is just a shitty version of wht you can find on youtbe for free. No thanks.

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 16:58:22 2020 No.4417789
File: 1.31 MB, 816x807, something like this maybe.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>4417495
If you want to go more for this style, try to focus on making gradients more. Your normal rendering is fine but the color of the skin and hair and clothing are all pretty separated. Notice how in that picture, the clothing and hair both somewhat fade into the skin. Once you have the gradients down for each part it's just a similar process to what you've already been doing. I believe in you anon!

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 17:21:52 2020 No.4417837

>>4416276
I'm so close to give up. 3 years working hard on this and I'm still shit, started so late and I'm getting old, meanwhile so many 19 y/o artists are already pro level, what's the fucking point, there's so many artists who would do what I like doing but way better anyway.

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 17:25:18 2020 No.4417843

>>4417789
Wow such a minimal change really did do a good job of capturing the aesthetic better. The contrast between the skin and hair was a problem that stood out to me upon finishing it, that I couldn't think of a solution for but this did just that thanks anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 17:30:28 2020 No.4417854 >>4417837 Slow and steady wins the race. Draw everyday for at least 30 minutes, every single day. And don't rush through fundies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 17:31:43 2020 No.4417855 >>4417837 Those 19 year olds have been drawing since they were ten. Time in the lab is the only difference between you and them. It doesn't matter how old you are, all that matters is how many hours of useful work you put in.

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 17:34:06 2020 No.4417858

>>4417837
Don’t compare yourself to people who started early anon. Everyone learns at a different pace and started at different times. You enjoy it, so keep doing it. Who cares if others are better? Nobody else can make exactly what you want to make.
Post your work here so people can help you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 17:36:38 2020 No.4417862 >>4417837 Maybe you have some 1 in 8 billion personality the rest don't, anon. I would want to see it that's for sure.

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 17:42:05 2020 No.4417875

>>4417843
Happy to help! As the other anon mentioned, using more hard edges for your shading will help as well. For the hair highlights, I suggest using the lasso tool to make the shapes of the individual highlights, and then using a big soft eraser to blend out the bottom edges of them. One other thing is to try to align the highlights with the shape of the hair. In the case of the other picture you posted, notice how the highlights somewhat wrap around the back of the head. Try to keep that in mind when drawing each line of highlights. Cheers!

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 17:43:06 2020 No.4417877

>>4417837
>>4417854
>>4417855
You need a good education and a good artist or mentor to critique work, train your eye, and lead you in the right direction. Without any of this you should just assume you won’t get far. You’re probably just wasting time trying to reinvent and figure out what a pro could tell you in 5 min.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 17:47:51 2020 No.4417881 File: 126 KB, 1200x678, TOufFrZ.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4417837 Post some of your work, I'm sure you're not as bad as you think you are. You might just be in the valley of despair right now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 18:38:48 2020 No.4417998 What the fuck. I've been looking at gesture completely wrong and my mind is blown

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 18:40:34 2020 No.4418001 >>4417998 Do tell more.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 18:43:45 2020 No.4418004 >>4417998 are you feeling the form now?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 18:50:41 2020 No.4418017 Gesture is just a gay way of saying "stop drawing your figures like a stack of bricks"

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 19:00:39 2020 No.4418030 >>4418017 Exactly. Fuck the gays who called it like that, but I'm more mad at myself for not realizing this sooner. With that said, what's the best and fastest way to get really fucking good at it?

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 19:03:44 2020 No.4418036

>>4418030
I don't know.
You could just grind quick gestures for a while, but I don't know how efficient of a timesink that would be.
Just try to always think about asymmetry while drawing the body.
Whether that's the figure as a whole, or the individual muscles.
The asymmetry is really what's going to make your drawings dynamic.
But you have to make a concious effort to get that asymmetry, because we tend to draw everything as symmetrical as possible when we think of the figure.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 19:09:24 2020 No.4418040 >>4418036 Thank you, feels like you do know, that looks like a good start to me anyway. I'll also try to find more books and vids on the topic

Anonymous Tue Mar 10 19:11:33 2020 No.4418041
File: 1.44 MB, 942x1177, name is nnnnoooo007 on insta.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>4417475
>>4417495
Personally I prefer more of a "blotchy" type of rendering method, there's something about the simplicity of it that I like.
pic related

>>4417837
>meanwhile so many 19 y/o artists are already pro level, what's the fucking point

Yea well how long do you think they've been drawing for? 1, 2 years? No people like that have at least been drawing for 5/6 years so they probably started when they were around 13/14. Your age doesn't matter you just have to put the hours in, and make sure your remembering what you're studying, so maybe at the end of your study session try and draw whatever
you just drew without reference to make sure you remember what you learned

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 19:12:35 2020 No.4418044 File: 28 KB, 320x249, BFAEE508-44F4-468D-A0FF-D7ADBC9B762D.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4415726 I love benedykt szneider stuff

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 19:15:19 2020 No.4418046 >>4418044 He's really good (the game too)

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 22:19:00 2020 No.4418394 File: 634 KB, 1200x757, 69696969.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 23:15:58 2020 No.4418394,1 >>4417633 >>4417579 idk is storyboarding the same as writing and directing im thinking about making a cartoon tv show

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 23:17:30 2020 No.4418394,2 plus i dont want to run out of ideas when writing for the show

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 23:18:48 2020 No.4418478 File: 33 KB, 428x465, 57e7502f240130df9c2d17c2975bc9d7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4418394

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 23:21:58 2020 No.4418481 File: 634 KB, 1200x757, 69696969.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4418394

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 10 23:23:01 2020 No.4418484 >>4418478 Ooooh, nice thanks.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 01:08:40 2020 No.4418622 >>4418478 leeeeon heeeeelp

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 01:09:58 2020 No.4418624 >>4418622 kek

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 02:54:44 2020 No.4418739 File: 2.23 MB, 3000x2000, 3-10-20.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] stuck in sketch hell

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 02:57:20 2020 No.4418741 >>4418739 >me >also me based selfcest

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 04:14:26 2020 No.4418792 File: 581 KB, 1920x1080, IMG_20200311_041303.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Practicing daily from now on.

Anonymous Wed Mar 11 06:05:45 2020 No.4418851
File: 793 KB, 679x887, 1571089798913.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Every time I try to use a sphere to construct the skull I end up putting a face plate somewhere by feel and in the end I'm missing the back of the skull, when I try to complete it by feel the result is more often than not lackluster. If I try to constrain the features within my original sphere the results are terrible. Please help me anime chads I feel like I'm missing something extremely obvious.

Anonymous Wed Mar 11 06:25:15 2020 No.4418869

>>4418851
I started from nearly 0 and went straight to trying to do heads like you're doing, I finally decided to put that on halt and go through "Fun with a pencil" by loomis first. I feel like it's helping me already though I don't know what your level is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 06:43:45 2020 No.4418881 File: 295 KB, 836x1200, i-007.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4418851 just learn to draw the skull from every perspective

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 06:59:47 2020 No.4418891 File: 1.01 MB, 1231x777, 1583921145204.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4418851 >something extremely obvious literally just a bigger circle.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 07:45:29 2020 No.4418933 File: 1 KB, 49x52, chrome_UbGZ7BJjsU.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4415726 PSA: Clip Studio is 50% off for the next 5 days: https://www.clipstudio.net/en/purchase

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 08:57:16 2020 No.4419021 File: 604 KB, 1200x1600, 11.3.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4418933 fuck yesssss only have 2 months left of csp pro that came with the tablet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 09:21:08 2020 No.4419054 >>4418891 If he made a bigger circle, he'd simply make the face too large again for that circle. He needs to get the proportions between the face and the back of the head right, like actually measure it out a few times.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 09:30:51 2020 No.4419073 >>4419054 yeah, i agree. that was the thought behind throwing a skull on as an actual reference of how cranium circles are supposed to be matching up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 09:32:56 2020 No.4419076 File: 308 KB, 1248x1664, SMBZ wip.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 11:22:28 2020 No.4419220 >>4418933 How often do they have sales? I don't feel like I'm good enough to buy a tablet yet but I don't want to miss out on the sale.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 11:27:13 2020 No.4419224 >>4419220 pyw

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 11:36:12 2020 No.4419240 File: 2.18 MB, 3024x4032, 1556447904806.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4419224 Please be gentle.

Anonymous Wed Mar 11 11:43:13 2020 No.4419251
File: 70 KB, 1024x564, 2015_vs__2019_by_ampbatross.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>4419240
Unironically you're about ready to start on tablet, though I'd get something cheap like a wacom intuous. I started off shit, pic related left is one of my first tablet drawings, but you can build your skill of drawing and getting to know Clip Studio simultaneously. You're already better at drawing than when I started, you just can't let it your tablet and software gather dust.

Practice your skills regularly, but you already knew that.

Anonymous Wed Mar 11 11:47:02 2020 No.4419255

>>4419220
The sooner you start your transition from paper to a tablet the better because you will need to learn the disconnect between looking down at the drawing on paper and looking at the screen instead. Took about three months to become fully adjusted to it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 12:00:34 2020 No.4419276 >>4419251 You're too kind. I also have one more question, Clip Studio is considered the gold standard correct? I do hear about it a lot but of course I never used it so I really can't have a comparison. >>4419255 Noted, thanks.

Anonymous Wed Mar 11 12:07:49 2020 No.4419288

>>4419276
I've actually never tried Clip before, I have Paint Tool Sai. At this point I'm very comfy where I am and I've gotten to know Sai really well. I have personalized keys that are second hand nature to me now on Sai, so I don't see myself switching any time soon.

With that said though, Photoshop and Clip are what I've heard have a lot of capabilities that Sai is limited to. I would go into this thinking that you're basically going to marry whatever program you sink your time into, because once you're used to it, it feels like dog shit trying to learn a whole new software after spending copious amount of time on another program. So I'd say try Clip, start off on a high quality software.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 12:15:37 2020 No.4419303 >>4419288 Appreciate your response, thanks.

Anonymous Wed Mar 11 13:28:44 2020 No.4419404

>>4419288
Started with pirated photoshop (only for editing/photo montage, no tablet at the time). Went GIMP for a while. Then Krita in its early stages, stayed there for a good while, lots and lots of crashes but whatever, it was good.
Tried OpenCanvas1.1, MyPaint, Alchemy, CSP. Kept with Krita until I saw 2 features on CSP, vector layers and selecting something from another layer without changing layers.

The secret is working on shortcuts that works for you (I'm lefty so I customize it a lot) and using the same for every program. Making the UI similar as much as possible, for me just navigator+layer+tools+colors. And limiting to the basic round brushes.

Extra features are extras, as long as 90% for your work is made through the above you'll be able to migrate through programs without much discomfort.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 18:30:36 2020 No.4419956 >>4418933 Fucking hell, I just bought it at full price last night because my free trial expired and I didn't feel like pirating it just to buy it later

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 18:41:56 2020 No.4419975 >>4418933 >50% off >still expensive for me being a third worlder hurts so much

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 18:48:31 2020 No.4419988 >>4418739 I love your art. What did you study to get to where you are?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 19:10:22 2020 No.4420023 >>4419975 Use krita then. Still pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 19:28:54 2020 No.4420050 File: 162 KB, 407x407, 1542001961465.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4419956

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 21:02:16 2020 No.4420196 >>4420023 I'm using the CSP cracked , but I'd like to have the updates

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 21:05:21 2020 No.4420201 >>4419975 Third worlder here, bought it with the power of hentai illustrations and murican dollars.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 23:41:13 2020 No.4420428 File: 331 KB, 900x1312, doko.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ok I just need a background and I'm done. I think my Rendering skills are much closer to what I was hoping for :).

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 11 23:44:25 2020 No.4420435 >>4416753 this picture pisses me off, why did he add retarded western lips and nose in that

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 00:13:35 2020 No.4420472 >>4420428 blog?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 00:16:14 2020 No.4420478 >>4420428 Wow that’s really good, could you recommend a tutorial for rendering? The way you shade and color is exactly how I want to do, but everything I paint in photoshop is never smooth like that. Always blotchy or streaky.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 00:17:01 2020 No.4420479 >>4420428 I love it, anon. Do you have a blog?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 00:17:54 2020 No.4420480 >>4420472 https://twitter.com/TheSpecialEdBoy

Anonymous Thu Mar 12 00:23:04 2020 No.4420486

>>4420478
well I actually tried something different by shading on different layers as oppose to on rendering on one. I use the multiply and luminosity layers for help. I incorporated more hard shading and used the soft eraser for stuff like hair. I don't usually watch tutorials I mainly watch pixiv livestreams

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 00:23:47 2020 No.4420487 >>4420478 Not him but you could try Sai or Clip Paint Studio, using the stabilizer tool. For Photoshop there's an add-on called Lazy Nezumi, which has the same purpose, though I've never used it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 01:15:20 2020 No.4420554 >>4420428 >>4420480 Unironically use pixiv bro My average shit usually get 100 likes/300 bookmarks and I think my art is not as good as yours You are being severely unnoticed on twitter

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 01:17:05 2020 No.4420555 File: 3.70 MB, 3850x2947, New canvas.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 01:21:41 2020 No.4420562 >>4420555 That looks awesome how did you make the second image so much more vibrant do you have a blog.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 01:28:16 2020 No.4420577 >>4420562 Thank you. https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/4967174

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 01:43:25 2020 No.4420597 >>4420480 Man you're fast. Definitely going to make it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 01:45:19 2020 No.4420600 >>4420555 How long did this take you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 01:50:32 2020 No.4420602 >>4420600 About a week.

Anonymous Thu Mar 12 02:00:57 2020 No.4420617
File: 621 KB, 439x689, h.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>4419988
for the fundamentals, i studied loomis, hogarth, and norling, just like everyone on ic.
for stylization, mainly hirame and picrel

however, i think how you study matters much more.

a lot of anons on ic think that fundies are like a permanent pass to draw whatever you please. but the reality is that you're never done learning the fundamentals and you need to constantly review them to keep your work in shape.
i don't think i've ever seen anyone on ic talk about this, but whenever i do studies i take notes. just like any other subject it helps internalize the info

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 02:10:55 2020 No.4420626 >>4420617 not him but I really want to start learning from Loomis myself where do you recommend I start any is there like a specific tutorial or practice regimen?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 02:27:36 2020 No.4420638 >>4419220 They have sales, something like 2 - 4 times a year, I feel like.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 02:29:58 2020 No.4420642 >>4419956 I was gonna upgrade last month but some shit came up and I couldn't and then kind... forgot. So happy about that now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 02:31:45 2020 No.4420643 >>4419276 >>4419240 Since you're doing anime/manga there's no better software. I tried PS but the brushes just didn't feel good. Switched to CSP and it stuck. And the asset store is top notch if you're looking for brushes, screen tones, effects, etc.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 06:39:30 2020 No.4420855 >>4419054 >>4419073 This is the exact issue I'm having right now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 06:41:36 2020 No.4420858 >>4420626 Not him either but if you have 0 bases, fun with a pencil is probably a good place to start

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 07:32:04 2020 No.4420901 >>4420201 teach me your ways, senpai

Anonymous Thu Mar 12 07:51:49 2020 No.4420917
File: 523 KB, 1024x768, 2354543.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>4415726
>>4415730
>Ryusuke Mita
It's a shame that never released his other mangas instead of Dragon Half and Darkhair Captured out of Japan
I still have some drawings when i'm trying to imitate his style around 10 years ago (pic related)
Made in Sai.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 08:47:25 2020 No.4420974 >be me >can’t draw >copy anime to draw anime >but have to draw real people before cute anime grils >copy people to draw people >need to know how to draw to copy people >can’t draw wut do?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 09:31:51 2020 No.4421009 >>4420974 you can draw, you just can't draw well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 14:41:41 2020 No.4421502 File: 602 KB, 3000x3000, lineart.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tried to ink my sketch, what can I improve on?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 14:46:14 2020 No.4421515 File: 54 KB, 750x730, 1584035606802.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4421502 anatomy

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 14:46:46 2020 No.4421518 File: 91 KB, 228x432, 1583869808212.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4420974 coomplain on /ic/

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 15:06:38 2020 No.4421557 File: 94 KB, 406x612, 12.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] groan https://twitter.com/aya_katsudon/status/1237750278004170753?s=20 >>4420617 who's the artist in the pic

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 16:04:54 2020 No.4421709 File: 203 KB, 707x1000, illust_80041577_20200312_091714.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how do i deconstruct this bitchs head. im on the 30thed failed head and still cant figure it out

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 16:10:50 2020 No.4421724 File: 503 KB, 1109x586, Copy Anime Day 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Am I really learning somenthing by copying like this or should I focus on structure first?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 16:13:05 2020 No.4421731 >>4421724 I think you should have a set goal when you do a copy. What are you actually trying to learn? Did you realize anything? Try to make your own thing that looks like the art you copied

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 16:14:42 2020 No.4421738 File: 438 KB, 713x1009, rfb5b6tv.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4421709

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 16:20:35 2020 No.4421760 >>4421709 whos the artist

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 16:22:47 2020 No.4421769 >>4421731 I'm specifically trying to understand anime faces and expressions because I can draw bodies relatively well. No, I did not realize something new. I'll try that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 16:26:51 2020 No.4421785 >>4420617 Stupid question, but how would you take notes and apply it?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 16:40:07 2020 No.4421817 >>4421760 https://www.pixiv.net/users/5773248

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 16:52:40 2020 No.4421854 File: 39 KB, 332x310, 1583871208026.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4421724

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 17:10:15 2020 No.4421898 File: 61 KB, 491x640, 26F72FC2-D132-4E0B-B433-2111C5B79561.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4413624 today’s attempt. i should’ve made the jaw longer, and my lines are kinda shitty. what do i need to work on?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 17:14:53 2020 No.4421910 >>4421898 Look at your drawing. Look at your favorite artist. Now look back at your drawing. It should be damn obvious what you need to work on.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 17:18:51 2020 No.4421926 >>4421898 everything? I wouldn't even dare posting something like you here, copy that face 100 times, then post it again

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 17:25:26 2020 No.4421948 >>4421898 Never forget >Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 17:30:16 2020 No.4421956 >>4421898 stop attacking your paper, be gentle with it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 18:20:41 2020 No.4422096 File: 198 KB, 465x273, illust_69617157_20200312_173907.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i tried

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 18:22:54 2020 No.4422100 >>4422096 sauce on right

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 18:25:44 2020 No.4422110 File: 133 KB, 600x800, illust_69617157_20200312_173907.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4422100

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 19:00:32 2020 No.4422189 >>4422110 who is artist?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 19:03:42 2020 No.4422195 File: 864 KB, 1446x2046, illust_67406187_20200312_190319.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4422189 spacejin

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 20:18:19 2020 No.4422324 File: 840 KB, 1600x900, day 7 study.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] daily study

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 20:31:40 2020 No.4422344 >>4422324 bad study, try drawing the same but from a different angle

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 20:50:02 2020 No.4422371 >>4422324 Remember to get sleep so your gains maintain.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 12 21:16:47 2020 No.4422412 >>4422344 STFU crab

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 00:51:23 2020 No.4422749 :(

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 03:48:58 2020 No.4422916 >>4420617 that's it, i'm convinced hogarth is the key to anime gains

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 03:54:53 2020 No.4422926 File: 872 KB, 1881x2400, 20200313_151352.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Opinions on the lineart? Should I draw her other eye now? Or fix the flat formless shading first?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 03:54:54 2020 No.4422927 File: 1.50 MB, 1800x1204, 2020-03-13 stars cropped scaled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4422916 ABSOLUTELY BRO I LOVE HOGARTH, FINALLY CLOSE TO FINISHING ONE OF HIS BOOKS, VERY FUN EFFORT.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 03:57:59 2020 No.4422929 >>4422926 I'm considering adding more line weight to the parts which would be shaded darker

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 04:12:07 2020 No.4422941

>>4422926
Id say anatomy, but thats not what you asked.
Flat shading is fine if youre going for an animated screenshot look. Id say fix the lineart first. Everything is the exact same weight except a few random things. If you genuinely want the lineart to be the same weight, id suggest using a bit of colored lines to break things up, such as making the lineart for the hair a golden color that stands out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 04:16:27 2020 No.4422946 >>4422941 Oh, and add highlights if youre doing flat shading. Right now you have two different colors, the base and the shadow. Add a third.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 04:23:02 2020 No.4422952 >>4422941 >>4422946 Thank you for the suggestions. I'd prefer to make the lines different weight and all black, but colored edges exclusively for hair are definitely an option.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 04:29:04 2020 No.4422959 >>4422952 As for the anatomy, I'll try to change the position/length of the arms while I work on the lines. Thanks again.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 05:02:58 2020 No.4422979 >>4420617 >hogarth, and norling I might be brain dead but where are those e-books? I know loomis is in the pastebin

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 05:22:51 2020 No.4422991 >>4415726 >Copy anime references exactly Does this mean trace, then after that draw from memory?

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 05:39:47 2020 No.4423007

>>4422991
No, don't trace.

>>4422344
The point of copying references exactly is that it forces you to look at EVERY detail that went into a piece. Every variation in line weight, every little hook and curve, etc. All of these details contribute greatly to the final look and feel of a piece. If you construct your own inexact version using 3D primitives, you will inevitably overlook some of these details and therefore you will not be studying everything the piece has to offer.
It's about looking at the image as a representation of a 3D object vs looking at the image as an image. I think both types of studies are valuable and people should do both. It's wrong to say that one is superior to the other.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 05:49:54 2020 No.4423015 >>4423007 >No, don't trace. Why, and if you don't trace how would you copy a reference exactly? Grid paper or something?

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 05:54:50 2020 No.4423021

>>4423015
>Why
You're not training your observation skills.
>how would you copy a reference exactly
When I said "exactly" I didn't mean "it must be pixel perfect or you have failed", I just meant, "making a copy of the reference to the best of your ability", as opposed to what the other guy suggested where if you don't draw it from a different angle then it's a bad stidy, or what some people suggest where you should only use references as a basis for construction and not think about trying to match the reference exactly.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 06:02:25 2020 No.4423022 >>4423021 Ok but do you measure lines or anything like that?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 06:10:41 2020 No.4423025 >>4423022 If you want to, sure. Otherwise don't. Don't overthink it. Unlike some others I'm not too concerned about "wrong" ways of drawing. If you're drawing then you're probably fine.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 06:33:48 2020 No.4423041 >>4420617 >>a lot of anons on ic think that fundies are like a permanent pass to draw whatever you please. but the reality is that you're never done learning the fundamentals and you need to constantly review them This nigga gets it, definitely gmi.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 06:44:32 2020 No.4423047 >>4421785 You never go to school before?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 06:54:49 2020 No.4423051 >>4421738 Your drawings obviously look nothing like the reference.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 11:21:08 2020 No.4423293 >HOGARTH Ok where's the link for this dude's books?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 11:25:47 2020 No.4423298 File: 488 KB, 713x1009, c0hn7zl0.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4423051 The structure was pretty spot on, only the angle had to be more to the right.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 11:31:45 2020 No.4423301 >>4415726 bro...anime style = illegal now. bannable offense...

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 11:32:58 2020 No.4423302 >>4423301 This is 4channel not cucktreon

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 11:38:52 2020 No.4423310 >>4423302 >4channel 4chan bro

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 13:28:09 2020 No.4423470 File: 142 KB, 800x935, ss2han.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How does he do it

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:48:16 2020 No.4423820 File: 216 KB, 1000x1000, studies.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Something about this face is rubbing me the wrong way? not done yet but how would you fix this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:52:15 2020 No.4423831 >>4423820 With Loomis.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 16:53:23 2020 No.4423836 /asg/ cucks, good luck making money from patreon with your copy shit, kek.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:18:01 2020 No.4423891 File: 249 KB, 1000x1000, 1584132496483.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4423820 either she's got a jawbreaker in her cheek or her zygomatic bone has run away from her eye.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:37:19 2020 No.4423922
File: 566 KB, 611x1097, asd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>4423891
Not him and I somewhat agree about that part but I think the issue if anything is her left eye (our right), it's too low on her face compared to the other one. Some artists tend to place the eyes quite far in (artist in pic is ザキザラキ)

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:42:46 2020 No.4423934 Best hogarth book?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 17:57:23 2020 No.4423965 >>4420435 he says he loves bleach and adopted the bleach lips >>4416753 and idk what ur talking about honestly i feel like if Whyt manga was some actual mangaka nobody would bat an eye for his normal anime art

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:00:43 2020 No.4423970 File: 203 KB, 898x650, IMG_0720.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what do ya'll thiunk about my shit

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:00:52 2020 No.4423971 >>4423922 the head is tipped lad

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:02:27 2020 No.4423974 >>4423971 What's your point?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 18:20:51 2020 No.4424011 >>4423820 What's your hair painting process

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:15:56 2020 No.4424142

>>4423970
The line art is the best of the three, spine is a bit less straight than I'd prefer but its not unrealistic and fine if that's your thing. The one on the left has her nose go to high and something about how the lips and eyes are colored seems weird to me.

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:25:38 2020 No.4424171

>>4423970
Color choice is nice. I agree that the plain lineart one is the best. Shes also cute.
Im not a fan of the see through crop top and I think itd look better as just the black suit. I like the color for it though, and maybe you could incorporate that into the design of the suit and arm. Her design gives me conflicting views; is she supposed to be sneaky, as the bodysuit thing would imply? But then she has a giant robotic arm that sticks out. Also, thats a design i see a lot and i think it makes your design more generic. I think you should look at more robot arms (Genos from One punch Man, Zero from Drakengard 3, for examples) and try to create something that suits her better.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:26:12 2020 No.4424177 File: 101 KB, 485x680, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] God, Kiyotaka Oshiyama's drawing class book is such a treasure. This is the art people submitted to him for his correction.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:27:32 2020 No.4424182 File: 254 KB, 482x680, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4424177 And his correction.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:35:53 2020 No.4424200 >>4423470 decades of drawing at least a page daily

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:41:57 2020 No.4424223

>>4424171
Thanks for the feedback, her design is actually very much part of her story she's a sleek and extremely human android like Motoko from Ghost in the Shell, and the robot arm is technically a downgrade to her default body as her normal arm was destroyed. Thats why it looks kind of older and bulky. Her sexy leotard thing is actually her normal outfit because she was made by some rich guy as a sex doll, she added the goggles and cloak parts because she becomes a sniper later in her story

But the art related feedback thanks ill stick to my less clean linework it seems to flow out better and look more fluid overall

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:45:01 2020 No.4424226 >>4424223 Not that anon but I really like her design, the big bulky arm makes her stand out and have nice shapes

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 19:50:02 2020 No.4424239

>>4424223
I knew I got a Ghost in the Shell feel. The leotardish thing was a dead giveaway.
The design fits better with the backstory you gave. You should've included that alongside the design so people could give more specific critique though.
So its an older model? It currently sticks out due to the color and bulkiness, but I think you could push that even more, maybe some copper tones to make it look old and outdated. Other than that, good luck on the project.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:22:17 2020 No.4424314 >>4424239 Thanks! yeah it's supposed to be an old just cyborg arm as a replacement, will definitely play around with it some more

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:41:24 2020 No.4424369 File: 164 KB, 532x517, 8B9FBEB4-DF03-4F5E-9149-DE9BC31E9ECD.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Stop drawing anime, you disgusting pedophiles.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 20:46:58 2020 No.4424379 >>4424369 >Based Now focus on real art you retarded animeshitters.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:02:55 2020 No.4424414 >>4424369 this is the patreon shit right? imagine using patreon in the first place lulw

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:04:14 2020 No.4424419 >>4424369 Why don't people just use crypto?

Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:09:49 2020 No.4424436
File: 42 KB, 500x500, 1583702693499.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>4424369
>uploading your hot shit on P*treon
i only do pols and post cropped images there and release the uncensored on discorshit or twatter

LMAO
M
A
O

also fuck that korean insect

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:10:59 2020 No.4424439 >>4415726 is op pic on the right watercolor? I love the purple color and the texture

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:15:20 2020 No.4424451 File: 753 KB, 850x1200, utaaq4ep.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Who said what about loli!? Huh!?!? Rel. pic

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:22:34 2020 No.4424461 >>4424436 Blog?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:25:42 2020 No.4424464 File: 221 KB, 590x600, 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4424451

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 21:49:50 2020 No.4424507 File: 152 KB, 800x600, 1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 22:54:22 2020 No.4424607 >>4424177 gib link pls

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 13 23:27:38 2020 No.4424637 File: 301 KB, 808x1083, 13.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] might as well post this here too >>4423820 the only things i really notice are how flat the hair to her right looks and her hand

Anonymous Sat Mar 14 02:25:19 2020 No.4424783
File: 1.02 MB, 879x783, 1583182028519.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

I'm still having the same issue >>4418851 but more often than not when practicing I end up finishing the back side as a big circle after my small one. Can someone suggest me a good head construction for volume? I tried pin2d but even with that one I'm having issues.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 02:27:19 2020 No.4424786 File: 697 KB, 592x861, 1583182028520.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Also when I add hair the problem seems to be much less noticable but my construction is both unreliable and stuck in a very little number of angles

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 03:46:12 2020 No.4424878 >>4424607 It's on e-hentai, lot of useful how to book on there actually. Just search "how to" tags https://exhentai.org/g/1508582/e58c305af2/

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 07:48:02 2020 No.4425115 >>4424878 thank you

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 09:02:33 2020 No.4425212 File: 628 KB, 750x650, 1581465169112.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is trying to learn analog drawing worthless these days? Whenever I look at art everyone seems to be doing digital.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 09:37:55 2020 No.4425253 File: 197 KB, 1844x1080, delet.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do you get this color of lineart? I know that you can color over only the lineart via Clip Studio now (clipping) but how do you get this "chromatic aberration" effect?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 09:48:03 2020 No.4425268 >>4425212 Many pros in both the east and west sketch on paper and then ink/color on digital.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 10:22:49 2020 No.4425312 >>4425253 It's just a CA filter on the final image I doubt it's the brush itself. Please don't do that. The only alternative I find acceptable is chroma aberration on the sides of the images at best

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 11:41:35 2020 No.4425425 >>4425268 lots of pros also just sketch and ink on traditional as well

Anonymous Sat Mar 14 12:32:54 2020 No.4425499
File: 1.64 MB, 1134x1577, 1039e03962af3bc26b3839dbd22d4505.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>4425312
Any other suggestions to make lineart stand out with color? Like I said my only strategy is to literally cover over a clipped layer (or use a clipped gradient etc.)

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 12:50:48 2020 No.4425537 >>4425212 the underlying principles are the same, and it costs way less to get started when you're just using pencil and paper that you already have around your house.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 14:19:36 2020 No.4425727 >>4425499 Is this your work?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 14:21:16 2020 No.4425731 File: 870 KB, 1536x2048, ESzoWwXU0AAoAOi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4425212 dumbass

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 15:34:48 2020 No.4425831 >>4425727 ofc no jesus christ it's pija

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 15:35:50 2020 No.4425835 >>4425727 >>4425831 So any ideas on how to achieve something like that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 15:42:46 2020 No.4425858 File: 122 KB, 500x635, nishi17.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First foray into digital. I'm green as hell and I also don't have any real programs to do digital art in. But here I am all the same.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 15:44:25 2020 No.4425861 >>4425731 >an inked drawing >the obligatory stationary in the picture is a mechanical pencil ???

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 17:33:29 2020 No.4426034 >>4425861 guess what tool was used prior to the inking step

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 18:07:58 2020 No.4426102 >>4425861 do you think jr started with the inking

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 18:13:35 2020 No.4426115 so how do you actually practice copying existing anime art I feel like repeatedly trying to copye something and doing it badly isn't effective practic

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 18:47:30 2020 No.4426163 >>4426115 If you just don't turn your brain off and try to make a good copy each time then you will get better at copying. It worked for me anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 18:50:17 2020 No.4426167 File: 1.00 MB, 992x1403, Bat4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Alright, am I on the right path? It has been a full year since I've started to learn, I still turd polish a lot, it drives me insane.

Anonymous Sat Mar 14 18:56:18 2020 No.4426176

>>4425253
>how do you get this "chromatic aberration" effect
Get your lineart layer and duplicate it twice. Colour the lines in one layer with turquoise/blue and the other with red. Put your black lineart over the other layers. Shift the blue layer a pixel or two to the left, and the red layer to the right. Voila, chromatic aberration. You can see this in your image if you look closely enough, although the artist kept it subtle by not moving the blue/red layers too far from the original.
I also kind of want to say they applied a very slight gaussian blur but I could be wrong

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 19:27:45 2020 No.4426228 >>4426115 if you're struggling at copying you need to be more deliberate at measuring, and make guide lines and marks before you start in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 19:39:44 2020 No.4426244 >>4426176 https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1751837 I find CSP auto action for chromatic abberation is very convenient, like the description says it works well with radial blur

Anonymous Sat Mar 14 20:39:40 2020 No.4426324
File: 160 KB, 662x719, 72ea1db2ad961163add7e8c3854120e6.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

So I've gotten pretty good at loomis construction for semi-realistic heads, but for me the construction method just breaks down for full on anime

Like take a look at pic related
That shit deviates so much from the standard you may as well not use loomis

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 20:57:13 2020 No.4426339 >>4426324 Just use the potato heads from loomis for rounded anime face

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 21:01:52 2020 No.4426353 File: 400 KB, 501x656, 19.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4426324 you understood nothing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 21:04:58 2020 No.4426361 >>4426353 that page isn't even the loomis method though.

Anonymous Sat Mar 14 21:06:31 2020 No.4426364
File: 156 KB, 800x1200, 1516307211267.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>lose motivation/inspiration for drawing
>take a week long break
>go on walks, catch up on other things
>still unmotivated/uninspired

Looks like this is it boys. It was fun while it lasted.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 21:07:09 2020 No.4426366 >>4426361 you understood nothing

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 21:09:01 2020 No.4426367 File: 82 KB, 456x341, loomoid.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] based loomis

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 21:13:10 2020 No.4426373 >>4426167 Very nice, anon

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 21:31:36 2020 No.4426391 >want to draw >just want to play monster hunter gu It not happening

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 21:52:16 2020 No.4426422 >>4425858 Got a pixiv?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 14 21:53:33 2020 No.4426425 File: 334 KB, 1233x736, I tried.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4426339 I guess that works

Anonymous Sat Mar 14 23:57:27 2020 No.4426565

>>4426324
loomis doesn’t work on real people either. everyone has their own proportions and bone structure that a single method can’t cover. in fact, the worst thing about loomis is he specifically teaches idealized comic book heroes that don’t accurately represent reality. what does work and what you walk away with is a simple baseline to modify as necessary. this is where anatomy, reference photos, and life drawing all come in.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 15 00:02:33 2020 No.4426567 File: 353 KB, 799x593, gf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I sketched my gf Holo in her comfy coat

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 15 01:01:21 2020 No.4426626 Should I study real human heads/draw portraits before doing manga head? Do you guys who studied real human heads alongside with or before anime find it helped you in your efforts to stylize?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 15 01:43:08 2020 No.4426667 >>4426626 Inevitably since Loomis and skulls in particular. I think you could get by if you drew a lot of those step-by-step tutorials though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 15 02:08:38 2020 No.4426699 >>4426626 Id say do them both alongside each other so you can apply your knowledge of real human proportion to someone elses stylization and see how its manipulated.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 15 03:46:38 2020 No.4426770 File: 662 KB, 1920x1200, 031520.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] someone told me my frills lacked depth so i tried to get better at it

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 15 05:15:34 2020 No.4426879 File: 624 KB, 836x1200, htdmf-7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4426626 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 15 12:36:29 2020 No.4427295 File: 229 KB, 689x957, hhf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Sun Mar 15 13:48:56 2020 No.4427437
File: 77 KB, 568x582, sai2_2020-03-15_17-45-24.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>4426626
I'm practicing heads atm, and I'd compare anime heads with real heads to understand what the artist is thinking, and treating anime heads as 3d even though they usually aren't.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 15 14:54:54 2020 No.4427567 >Chapter 9 >Foreshortening >drawing foreshortened poses is difficult >The End wow thanks loomis

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 15 15:25:34 2020 No.4427631 >>4427437 Did you finally get what you wanted from studying torsos?

Anonymous Sun Mar 15 16:02:22 2020 No.4427703
File: 679 KB, 1500x2000, 4BC77633-9B59-4858-A552-2B6A7D13CD38.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

hey im working on this sketch i hope you can help me with it, im having trouble with putting stuff on the tray and keeping it in perspective, I hope this is the right thread, I posted in /beg/ and I think it's just gonna get buried.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 15 16:09:54 2020 No.4427717 File: 70 KB, 446x697, sai2_2020-03-15_19-30-02.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4427631 I think so? I might come back to it, but it all might be in the line skill.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 15 16:11:45 2020 No.4427723 >>4420555 The copying/referencing here is a bit....too on the nose here, making me think this is a fake. I'm curious about your work-flow (with pictures!). (Do you have a blog as well?)

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 15 17:09:52 2020 No.4427811 >>4427295 Pen and Brush settings?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 15 17:14:51 2020 No.4427818 File: 15 KB, 235x329, sai2_2020-03-15_21-12-44.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4427703 You're trying to learn too much at once. Learn to do it simple first. Pic related.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 15 18:01:40 2020 No.4427878 File: 147 KB, 917x586, my ink brush.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4427811

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 15 19:09:52 2020 No.4427976 File: 249 KB, 1920x1080, 1582924321077.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4427878 >Photoshop

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 15 19:14:49 2020 No.4427986 >>4427976 I don't see CSP or SAI with such superior brush settings.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 15 19:47:31 2020 No.4428074 >>4427976 >>4427986 Yea, its best app for digital drawing. I like csp for vector brushes but ps is super fast with infinite posibilities. Suits my workflow well. Lack of brush stabilization isn't issue if you get good with it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 15 20:05:20 2020 No.4428111 >>4428074 I have a pirated PS CS6, is it still relevant for doing stuff like you did, or do I have to pirate newer version? I bought CSP Pro on a whim though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 15 20:54:38 2020 No.4428190 >>4428111 Im using cs6, newest version lagged for me when i was draging canvas with alt key for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 15 23:13:50 2020 No.4428381 New Thread: >>4428380 >>4428380 >>4428380

Advanced search
Text to find
Subject [?]Search by post subject. Leave empty for any.
Username [?]Search for user name. Leave empty for any user name.
Tripcode [?]Search for tripcode. Leave empty for any.
Email [?]Search by email. Leave empty for any.
Filename [?]Search by image filename. Leave empty for any.
From Date [?]Enter what date to start searching from. Format is YYYY-MM-DD
To Date [?]Enter what date to start searching until. Format is YYYY-MM-DD
Image hash
Search in	All Posts OPs Only
Deleted posts	Show all posts Show only deleted posts Only show non-deleted posts
Internal posts	Show all posts Show only internal posts Show only archived posts
Order	New posts first Old posts first
Capcode	All Posts Only by Users Only by Mods Only by Admins Only by Developers
Results	Posts Threads
Action	[ Simple ]