/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4377184]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

previous >>4374461

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj
RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

[Anonymous No.4377235]

We're all gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.4377272]

>>4377235
thanks anon

[Anonymous No.4377275]

wasnt last thread created day or two ago ?
It got nuked again ?

[Anonymous No.4377279]

Gonna study forearms and hand anatomy this week. Also need to review shoulders,Delta and back anatomy.

[Anonymous No.4377284]

>>4377279

im gonna be like you one day

[Anonymous No.4377287]

>>4377284
>aspiring to make accurate copies of what you see right in front of you
That's just the first step in the journey of a thousand miles, Asukaposter-kun.

[Anonymous No.4377288]

>>4377284
Shouldn't take long, I aint that good

[Anonymous No.4377290]

How i make rendering better?

[Anonymous No.4377297]

I just want to make people COOoM!

[Anonymous No.4377298]

>>4377290
Go very slow, be a tryhard, try to copy the shadows as accurately as you copied the contours of the body. Never lay down dark values immediately, rather you should start by filling in the area with a rather light even tone with a hard pencil and gradually adding more light layers to make it darker and darker, switching up to softer pencils as required. This will help you get a very smooth look and will also help you be more accurate at the same time, since you'll see the darker values coming ahead of time and will have more accurate control over where you place them.

[Anonymous No.4377303]

>>4377279
You're not /beg/ tier.

[Anonymous No.4377306]

>>4377297
Wheres her areola

[Anonymous No.4377341]

>>4377303
yes he is

[Anonymous No.4377343]

https://discord.gg/U9Nyyu2

>/beg/'s are super welcome and wanted. Caring is learning

[Anonymous No.4377345]

>>4377297
Wrong thread, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.4377346]

>>4377303
Copies, no matter how good, do not graduate anyone from /beg/.
The ultimate goal is to produce original work.

[Anonymous No.4377354]

[Anonymous No.4377359]

>>4377354
Immediate improvement. Pretty shocking actually.

[Anonymous No.4377360]

Do I have THE worst setup on /ic/?

I'm drawing with a $10 mouse on an obsolete version of Paint Tool SAI that won't let me save the pics.
Not just that but I always draw 5000x5000px images and I save them by taking several screenshots and piecing them together on MS Paint.

[Anonymous No.4377365]

>>4377360
That's literally just retarded. Use a free program or invest in SAI, or "invest" in SAI

[Anonymous No.4377369]

>>4377360
are you fucking retarded? its like youre doing it on purpose. and by the looks of it youre not drawing anything that needs a 5000x5000px canvas
http://www.mediafire.com/file/e1w23e26bjd8yig/Paint_Tool_SAI_2.0_%252832bit%2529.rar/file

[Anonymous No.4377377]

>>4377365
>>4377369

I just don't want to buy SAI because I'm not a pro or anything.
Tried free programs like Gimp and Paint.net but they were so awkward to use I had to go back to SAI's trial period.
SAI knows what I want. Like, when I right click on my mouse I want to select the color under the cursor. Only SAI does this. So convenient.
I'll check that link in a sec.

[Anonymous No.4377383]

>>4377377
I don't believe you need to be a professional if you plan to actually use the program for some time. The guy above gave you a link to the full version anyway, literally just take it

[Anonymous No.4377386]

>>4377279
How do I into heads like this? Are you just doing Loomis Head and Hands?

[Anonymous No.4377388]

>>4377284
Why you make her so ugly krabie?

[Anonymous No.4377393]

>>4377388
>Left: Soul
>Right: Soulless
Come to think of it he is reminding me a lot of Firez when he first started to draw and kept drawing sad faces.

[Anonymous No.4377394]

>>4377388
this shit looks like a yandere sim character model overpaint.
also, learn confident brushstrokes, please

[Anonymous No.4377406]

>>4377388
go away ilya

[Anonymous No.4377411]

>>4377388
>When a /beg/ tries to givd critique.

[Anonymous No.4377417]

>>4377388
>When a retarded /beg/ gives critique.

[Anonymous No.4377418]

>>4377411
>>4377417
when you post twice cus youre retarded

[Anonymous No.4377422]

>>4377297
Blog?

[Anonymous No.4377427]

I'm new here, might as well post my drawings

[Anonymous No.4377428]

>>4377284
Asuka retard, stop making ugly fuck noses, kurwa.

[Anonymous No.4377430]

>>4377428

Why are you shitting on that guy? What a horrible atmosphere you got here.

[Anonymous No.4377435]

>>4377427
Reminds me of Toothless. Pose is stiff and it overall looks flat. Would recommend referencing a lizard or even the toothless model to get a feel of how to give the head definition.

[Anonymous No.4377437]

>>4377117
Accuracy, aka making your lines go in the correct place. I'm saying you need to go for as simple a brush as possible so you aren't worrying about line quality when you're still learning to draw.

[Anonymous No.4377444]

>>4377377
Literally all you have to do is google "free digital painting program". There's Krita, Firealpaca, Medibang, MyPaint, and more to choose from. Why are you this retarded?

[Anonymous No.4377447]

>>4377298
Not him but thanks for the tips regarding technique/workflow. I'm already struggling to nail it down and not knowing which pencil to use added to the confusion.

[Anonymous No.4377454]

>>4377386
Yes

[Anonymous No.4377464]

Yea just keep deleting the fucking thread everyday.

[Anonymous No.4377471]

>>4377435
>Reminds me of Toothless.
It is Toothless.

>Pose is stiff and it overall looks flat.
It's fuckin flawless that's what it is.

[Anonymous No.4377491]

he

[FurBoi89 No.4377494]

>>4377491

Dude that's fucking amazing. You need a name.
Just named myself, I'm FurBoi89

[Anonymous No.4377507]

wip

[Anonymous No.4377532]

when drawing from reference, should you have the goal to use gesture / construction to produce something approximate but equally valid in terms of anatomy , or should you use bargue plate style to make an exact replica, (plumb lines, pencil measuring etc) ?
number 1, where you make something close is better if you're hoping to draw from imagination right|?

[Anonymous No.4377536]

>>4377532
The goal is to familiarise yourself with the shapes and motions that's possible for the human body. To a point where you're confident enough to do what you like with it.

[Anonymous No.4377537]

>>4377491
Congrats on non horrifying face.

[Anonymous No.4377545]

>>4377536
that doesn't help, if doing a bargue plate I can match the image pretty closely, but in the end it's just drawing shapes with no idea of form. plumb lines and stuff are useless when it comes to imaginative drawing. should one never do bargue plates if seeking the optimum route?

[FurBoi89 No.4377549]

>>4377537

The face is good.

[Anonymous No.4377555]

>>4377491
el goblino?

[Anonymous No.4377558]

>>4377284
Blog? I like the sad

[Anonymous No.4377566]

>>4377545
My comment was generalised and replying to your "goal" comment. The literal idea should be to understand the shapes and then add form to it. If you think doing Bargue plates is more limiting than helpful, then do something else. If your goal is to draw from imagination, then start doing full figure drawings.

[Anonymous No.4377579]

Did a practice sketch using the new skeleton I learned from Loomis. I am in love with it. Having to actually draw the spine, full ribcage shape, the hips and bones means I have actual lines to go off rather than "Oh, I think they go like this". I didn't care too much about the faces since I don't want to focus on that right now.

[Anonymous No.4377580]

>>4377549
It's one face, call me when I see a whole row of them.

[Anonymous No.4377584]

It's not much but does it at least look good?

[FurBoi89 No.4377588]

How safe is it to post ur drawings here?

I mean isnt' someone gonna steal them and make money off of them?

[Anonymous No.4377590]

>>4377579
But the faces are the best part of your drawing

[Anonymous No.4377592]

>>4377588
pyw and we'll see if its worth stealing

[Anonymous No.4377594]

>>4377579
Based cavepainter from 40,000 years ago

[Anonymous No.4377612]

How many of experienced anons uses boxes to construct the human figure? i find it really hard, so i use only cylinders even for the hips and chest. Proko uses cylinder shapes and Marshall says is better to use boxes.

[Anonymous No.4377614]

>>4377471
>mermaid with a thigh gap

[Anonymous No.4377618]

>>4377612
Honestly. After getting good enough and learning anatomy, boxes and cylinders feel like such memes. They don't at all properly depict the human figure. You just draw based on experience.

[Anonymous No.4377620]

>>4377612
Start with simple shapes, get better shapes

You'll get better at aiming. But it takes ages.

[Anonymous No.4377623]

A cartoony artist who hasn't drawn in a while looking to start again here. I really wanna start with basic anatomy but every tutorial book I've looked at has just sort of confused me. Here's a recent doodle of mine, hopefully I can improve.

[Anonymous No.4377630]

ok guys
what about this
I tried yet another type of face

[Anonymous No.4377633]

>>4377630
Actually kind of cute. Her tits are fucked though.

[Anonymous No.4377636]

>>4377612
It's good to just get a general idea of how the body should curve.

[Anonymous No.4377638]

>>4377630
Arms too thick and long, and as other anon stated tits are fucked

[Anonymous No.4377650]

[Anonymous No.4377658]

>>4377636
these look cool, thanks

[Anonymous No.4377660]

critique?

[Anonymous No.4377664]

>>4377660
her right titti is trying to get away

[Anonymous No.4377681]

>>4377417

>cant even draw as good

seethe

[Anonymous No.4377683]

>>4377471

did you run out of digital ink?

[Anonymous No.4377692]

anyone got a resource with useful dynamic poses for reference? by useful I mean that it's characters doing stuff that they would be doing in a manga or comic, not just references of people contorting their bodies in weird ways.

[Anonymous No.4377695]

single layer no erasure. Is this a good thing or a bad thing to practice?

[Anonymous No.4377700]

>>4377695
What you should practice is placing lines confidently. Use a single stroke instead of 30 little ones. Ctrl+Z exists for a reason.

[Anonymous No.4377704]

>>4377700
wrist hurts

[Anonymous No.4377709]

>>4377704
Flick with your arm, not your wrist. Large strokes

[Anonymous No.4377710]

>>4377700
>Ctrl+Z exists for a reason.

dumb fuck stop giving advice in /beg/ you're just hurting them

[Anonymous No.4377715]

>>4377284
>>4377388
perspective issues

[Anonymous No.4377731]

>>4377590
Oh, I mean, like, I didn't even try though, I just wanted to focus on the figure
>>4377594
Right? So basic but it's a major improvement for myself I think

[Anonymous No.4377734]

>>4377579
Ayy lmao
The proportions are off, top girl has a tiny arm while the bottom one has a tiny leg.

[Anonymous No.4377735]

>>4377709
small tablet. still hurts
have tendonitis

[Anonymous No.4377739]

im gunna do tons of these

[Anonymous No.4377742]

>>4377623
Also, forgot to mention I'm looking for criticism. I like drawing characters as depraved looking creatures, especially with the style of the things I write but I'd like to know at least some basic anatomy for them to look less shitty.

[Anonymous No.4377754]

Can somebody tell me how bad I am? I feel like I've made progress but I don't want to think something that's out of sync with reality. Can people tell me how bad I am, 1 being complete /beg/ tier, 10 being really good. I'd say I'm at 2-3 but I feel like there's this phenomenon where people disproportionately like their own work

[Anonymous No.4377771]

Marshall perspective --> Dynamic Sketching --> Vilppu/Hampton
Find a flaw

[Anonymous No.4377790]

>>4377584
tried drawing something other than a face, thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4377794]

>>4377754
0.5/10 Don't know what you're doing like most of /asg/. Stop drawing in pixels.

>>4377790
Can't see anything.

[Anonymous No.4377798]

>>4377630
ehhhhh
always when I try to do clean a lineart, by focusing on the lines I stop feeling the form
i hate this and i cannot escape destroying my sketches

[Anonymous No.4377800]

>>4377794
As in you can't make out what it is or its a blank page?

To answer the first one, its supposed to be a girl with her back to us and to answer the second I have no clue why it would be like that since it looks normal to me.

[Anonymous No.4377803]

>>4377800
I can see the picture, and it looks good.

But there's nothing to how skillful you are. I have no idea what you're thinking about.

[Anonymous No.4377805]

>>4377803
to show*

[Anonymous No.4377806]

head from imagination before studying. Some of the Loomis is helping. Still weak at really identifying the planes of the face and facial features.

[Anonymous No.4377818]

>>4377715
wtf lol its fucking hideous. asuka poster is better than you

[Anonymous No.4377819]

>>4377806
How long have you been drawing?

[Anonymous No.4377828]

>>4377806
been drawing since a kid. been trying to git gud over the last 1.5 years

[Anonymous No.4377838]

>>4377284
>>4377388
Speaking as someone who draws anime shit, I really wish you guys wouldn't push others who are clearly not interested in drawing that aesthetic into a box. It's really nice to see something different.

Only slight adjustments were made to make the sketch more appealing. A less severe nosebridge, softer chin, cleaned up jawline, less droopy lower left eyelid, cleaned up aging neck line, and rotated hairclip to mirror the other instead of sitting on top of her head.

[Anonymous No.4377841]

>>4377284
>>4377838
Oh and for the love of god please study ears.

[Anonymous No.4377843]

>>4377800
Forgot to say, this picture has no upper skull.

>>4377806
Nose needs to point a little to the right, but you know that.

[Anonymous No.4377899]

Anyone else get confused as fuck anytime they try to make the bill of a ball cap

[Anonymous No.4377905]

>>4377798
I can see that you were trying to hide the right upper arm behind her torso by implying a bent arm, but it looks unnatural and looks like a little T-Rex arm. Straightening it out and also aligning the other arm, with both wrists bent at a more subtle angle, is a better feel. For your lineart, you may want to clean up your sketches to your taste and see where the weight of the lines work and where it doesn't.

[Anonymous No.4377906]

>>4377710
>yeah bro pros never use undo
Keep telling yourself that

[Anonymous No.4377910]

>>4377899

[Anonymous No.4377912]

>>4377910
>>4377899

[Anonymous No.4377913]

>>4377906
Its a crutch and hinders learning, better to finish the work and see your flaws then to redo and redo dragging on a shit image.

[Anonymous No.4377915]

>>4377818
unironically kill yourself if you have nothing of value to add to critique

[Anonymous No.4377916]

>>4377910
>>4377912
Thank you for this anon

[Anonymous No.4377929]

>>4377905
>>4377838
What is with the favouritism for asukafag?

Is this some discord tranny shit? There's plenty of people, that need dire help in this thread.

[Anonymous No.4377931]

>>4377913
Depends on what he's striving for. It looked to me like he wanted it to look clean yet he had a lot of unnecessary lines and areas that he went over a bunch. If he posted it without erasing flaws he'd get REEEEd at for 'chicken scratching'. Making scribbly sketches really doesn't teach you anything, since those scribbles actually hide your flaws. If he had confident lines he could see exactly where his forms are failing. Stay /beg/, retard.

[Anonymous No.4377933]

>>4377931
Ctrl z wont make lines less chicken scratchy though, he just needs to make a concious effort to stop.

[Anonymous No.4377973]

please help im retarded i dont know what im doing

[Anonymous No.4377982]

I'm retarded and trying to recreate something like this, is this two point perspective? How do you determine the downward lines?

[Anonymous No.4378011]

>fuck around with some charcoal pencils
>500x more fun than graphite
wtf why did no one tell me this sooner

[Anonymous No.4378013]

>>4378011
every drawing class ever starting in charcoal should've told you something

[Anonymous No.4378022]

When i flip that shit one of the eyes seems strange, but i don't know exactly what i need to change. Can someone help me?

[Anonymous No.4378024]

>>4378011
Because it’s messy and looks like shit.

[Anonymous No.4378026]

>>4378022 i dont see the problem

[Anonymous No.4378034]

>>4378024
>he has no control

[Anonymous No.4378041]

>>4377838
HUGE ENORMOUS INCREDIBLE IMPROVEMENT

Asukafag, study the hell out of what this guy did. clean lines, pointy nose, narrow mouth, eyes not droopy. ok, you polish autistic virgin? we love you btw. i want you to succeed. youre close its just fun to insult you but youre pretty good, just sloppy.

[Anonymous No.4378044]

>>4377915
take your own advice.

[Anonymous No.4378045]

>>4378024
If anything my charcoal sketches are cleaner/read better than my graphite sketches because charcoal is so much easier to manipulate.

[Anonymous No.4378065]

triceps are hard. probably gonna study them more tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.4378073]

>>4378065
where are you studying from?

[Anonymous No.4378097]

>>4378073
tonight? just proko for tricep anatomy.

[Anonymous No.4378098]

This is my first attempt at drawing gesture. I gave myself a minute for every figure but I'm so slow that even that was hard for me to handle.

[Anonymous No.4378100]

[Anonymous No.4378102]

[Anonymous No.4378109]

Draw circle 30min every day for cure OCD and cleaner line

[Anonymous No.4378112]

>>4378098
give it a couple more weeks practice champ

[Anonymous No.4378114]

>>4378109

[Anonymous No.4378120]

>>4378098
Look at how proko does it, (i think he is the easiest) or read "vilppu drawing manual" chapter on gesture it gives you 4 steps, and >>4378112 good luck

[Anonymous No.4378134]

>>4377235
ok retard

[Anonymous No.4378136]

>>4378065
I'm just going to put this out there. You're doomed for failure my dude, just by going from your previous works. Look for a professional artists help asap.

[Anonymous No.4378143]

>>4378136
How tf is he supposed to get professional help without spending hundreds of $?

[Anonymous No.4378147]

>>4377235
Completely false kekW I would guess only like 5-10% of /beg has any potential.

[Anonymous No.4378155]

>>4378143
He doesn't need to be spoonfed, but he does need a direction. I'm sure discord or twitter could help contacting someone.

[Anonymous No.4378168]

>>4377982
bimp

[Anonymous No.4378175]

I tried to make construction, the 4 on the left and the long legged one are referenced from anime, the other three were a girl with short legs

[Anonymous No.4378177]

>>4377929
Going to be honest, I had no idea that was the same person. I critique where I see people trying. A lot of posts are often quick doodles, with little thought put behind the construction. Or they are already at or above my skill level and I have nothing of value to impart.

For you, I like what you have been doing so far since you clearly have a good handle on torsos, but you should step out of your comfort zone and draw some hands/feet/full head & face.

[Anonymous No.4378209]

>>4378136
You're not as good as he is...

[Anonymous No.4378216]

>>4377982
It's three point perspective. This video may be what you're looking for. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwcldMKlzjg

[Anonymous No.4378218]

>>4378177
I've drawn the torso too many times, and still don't understand it at all actually.

I don't need help knowing what to practice however, appreciated though.

>>4378209
I know, I suck shit, that's why he needs somone better he can trust to tell him how wrong he's practicing.

[Anonymous No.4378221]

[Anonymous No.4378226]

>>4378218
>>4378221
Battle.

[Anonymous No.4378225]

>>4378098
You're drawing the contour of the figure, not the gesture

[Anonymous No.4378294]

>>4378216
god I'd let you fuck me anally anon

[Anonymous No.4378307]

>>4377184
Planeguy reporting in, tried doing a pose that isnt 3/4ths for for once, and I learned some from it. Definitely going to be thinking about horizon lines more because I feel like that was a big problem, also need to work on legs more since I seem to really fuck up the placement of them, I tried shifting them around to show how the hips are rocked but it didn't work too well. I'm gonna color and line this one at least, I want to try coloring my lineart like Matt Kohr showed in ctrl+paint.

[Anonymous No.4378351]

>>4378065
youre on a fucking roll dude. carpe noctem

[Anonymous No.4378361]

>>4377184
New to digital art

[Anonymous No.4378373]

>>4378361
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.4378375]

>>4377818

fix your taste

[Anonymous No.4378380]

>>4377906

how they use it is different from how /beg/ use it. a good drawer don't rely on undos. they just erase and redraw. the same with painter. okay retard? I've bestow upon you my knowledge.

you can neck yourself now.

[Anonymous No.4378463]

>>4378177
Why does it always look so off when a westerner tries to draw in a anime style?

[Anonymous No.4378482]

>>4377735
ngmi
>>4377754
assuburster!
>>4377798
crab here, Work on the sketches to have more confident lines, then 'tis but a matter of drawing over them.
Sai has a pen tool which lets you move the lines about as a vector making it easy. There's also lazy nesumi which I believe mathematically averages your chickenscratches to draw lines for you

[Anonymous No.4378510]

[Anonymous No.4378517]

>>4377360
Why don't you just pirate a program of your preference? Why is everyone here so retarded that they literally buy programs when you can just fuckin pirate them
I only understand those who spend real money on good multiplayers games

[Anonymous No.4378519]

Is it normal that I find drawing on a tablet much more difficult than drawing on paper?

I have this cheapo tablet. I guess its drawing space not being 16:9 isn't helping.

[Anonymous No.4378527]

>>4377806
Nice, reminds of Mr. House

[Anonymous No.4378669]

any feedback on the lighting?

[Anonymous No.4378684]

>>4378519
Yeah it takes some getting used to.

[Anonymous No.4378765]

thoughts on this base construct?

[Anonymous No.4378775]

Bully me

[Anonymous No.4378811]

[Anonymous No.4378827]

>>4377929
>What is with the favouritism for asukafag?
There is none, people majorly shit on him all the time.
However, credit where it is due Asukaposter is productive as fuck compared to many other people that post here once a blue moon.

[Anonymous No.4378868]

[Anonymous No.4378913]

Of all the hobbies I've picked up, drawing is by far the most time consuming, the least enjoyable, and the one I have made the least progress with. I'm proud of myself for having not given up yet, but it just feels like a tremendous waste of time. When do I start having fun?

[Anonymous No.4378939]

>>4378913
It can be either a curse or a blessing. Either you have the right genetics and will gitgud and make it into a career and be loved by many, have a very fulfilling life and finally find happiness.

Or if you have inferior genetics it will be something that you hate doing for the rest of your life, you will never improve no matter how much you try, and it will probably ruin your social life, career path, mental health, etc. You will put all of your energy into it and neglect everything else because youve been brainwashed for years that talent doesnt exist and anyone can make it through hardwork.

So you decide you will dedicate your life to it like Volen Ck but be living in a delusion, and keep believing youre getting closer but the only thing youre actually getting closer to is homelessness, and approaching the end of all hope for ANYTHNG at this point, not just art, and you will become very suicidal because now youre completely alone and sacrificed everything for nothing.

In the end, you will die as a /beg/ and nobody will care.

[Anonymous No.4378940]

>>4378913
I just started having a little but of fun after 1.5 years of misery.
Well, it's hard to call it exactly fun. But I don't have to force myself to draw as much anymore. I'm hungry to get better and I just automatically want to draw more even though I still suck. So, just keep at it.

[Anonymous No.4379001]

>>4378155
>>4378136
PLEASE dont listen to crabposters. you're fine>>4378065

[Anonymous No.4379048]

practice and reference drawings

[Anonymous No.4379050]

Drew it yesterday since it started as a accidental gecko head scribble. Now I'm trying to get through Force Drawing... I've been having a lot of fun since I started using red instead of black though.

[Anonymous No.4379055]

>>4377184
So if I was just drawing boxes and cylinders in a scene I would decide on a perspective, set the horizon and vanishing points and then I'd know how to contour shapes. If it's advice the horizon, you're looking under it so the cylinder contours up away from your. But I could not "feel the form" while doing this study. I guess I could just do the top half in one direction and the lower half the other but how do I decide where the horizon actually is? How do I trace perspective on an organic shape. If I break it down to boxes it just feels like a flat angle.

[Anonymous No.4379056]

>>4377838
not bad you have a lot of potential

[Anonymous No.4379073]

>>4378209
Grey sketch kun is either mentaly ill or a troll or both. Just ignore him.

[Anonymous No.4379085]

>>4378939
>happiness is influenced by genetics

[Anonymous No.4379154]

>>4379048
cont

[Anonymous No.4379170]

Fuick it

[Anonymous No.4379215]

>>4379170
How do people get to the point that they're shading in drawings this bad? This is what polishing a turd looks like. Stop shading it in. Learn to draw a face. Holy shit.

[Anonymous No.4379222]

>>4379215
this will sound like a cop out, but I didn't pay much attention to the face because I want to focus more on shading and rendering at any cost..

[Anonymous No.4379225]

>>4379222
Don't do that.

[Anonymous No.4379229]

>>4379222
Literally you should be doing the exact opposite.
A simple line drawing of a correctly structured face looks way better than a rendered turd.

[Anonymous No.4379231]

>>4379222
Also the eyes literally look like they're painted onto a flat surface. Like it's an N64 model or something. Eyes are spheres.

[Anonymous No.4379270]

>>4377695
images from imagination/ memory of what I did last night in this study. color for fun
>>4377931
>If he posted it without erasing flaws he'd get REEEEd at for 'chicken scratching
the exercise was to not erase or use multiple layers

>>4379170
the hair is the focal point, you should make the face sharper than the hair I think

[Anonymous No.4379273]

>>4379270
this is also the same exercise in single layer with no construction but using the eraser and undo a bit

[Anonymous No.4379277]

>>4377973
I can see her benis!

[Anonymous No.4379301]

[Anonymous No.4379314]

>>4379277
No that's just a puffy vulva

[Anonymous No.4379319]

>>4377588
if you think that will happen then you should be selling your work yourself, no? in which case it doesn't matter all that much.

[Anonymous No.4379327]

>>4379222
Buy a coloring book.

[Anonymous No.4379331]

>>4377588
The only way you'll ever be truly safe is to burn all your art.

[Anonymous No.4379340]

this peace speaks to me

[Anonymous No.4379362]

[Anonymous No.4379367]

>>4379362
incredible, blog?

[Anonymous No.4379369]

>>4379314
same thing

[Anonymous No.4379407]

>>4377235
yes i will be famous mangaka in nippon and make millions from anime

[Anonymous No.4379414]

>>4377235

[Anonymous No.4379416]

>>4378373
>muh /pol/
Its a drawing, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.4379458]

>>4378775
>Bully me
baka

[Anonymous No.4379466]

Alright, took that sketch from yesterday, cleaned up the lines, tried to fix those issues, and overall, I'm pretty happy with it and it looks much better now that I do the Loomis skeletons. However, I notice that I can't fucking draw lips from the side to save my fucking life. Any tips or just set some time aside and sketch a bunch of lips? My OCs have fat lips because coomer so I want them to look good when I draw em.

[Anonymous No.4379487]

3 From imagination, of the same pose>>4379270

[Anonymous No.4379496]

>>4379487
The fore arm begins at the waste
The fingertips end at the middle of the thigh
Those hidden arms are ALL fucked up and shorter than the arms facing the viewer

[Anonymous No.4379529]

>>4379496
I'll do some more then, here'es some trashy doodles

[Anonymous No.4379559]

>Study Keys to Drawing
>"ask your friend to pose"
What can I use as an alternative?

[Anonymous No.4379561]

>>4379559
www.google.com

[Anonymous No.4379569]

>>4379561
But it's gotta be life-sized(for getting the proportions right and shit), I thought that's kinda the whole point

[Anonymous No.4379572]

>>4379569
dude just, make do with what you have.

[Anonymous No.4379585]

>>4378361
Looks great

[Anonymous No.4379624]

onsen's closed

>>4379496
any better?

[Anonymous No.4379630]

onsen's closed

>>4379496
any better?

[fucked up the export guess?]

[Anonymous No.4379631]

>>4379569
Use a mirror

[Anonymous No.4379635]

>>4379630
why are the lines messed up on screen even for jpeg and png?

[Anonymous No.4379638]

>>4379635
oh never mind actually, it must be aliasing due to the low resolution of my screen. I paid attention in class!

[Anonymous No.4379640]

As a test to see how long people stay on this board, does anyone remember me spamming this image?

[Anonymous No.4379653]

>>4379640
Been here since at least early 2018, no.

[Anonymous No.4379659]

>>4379653
Well I suppose I did it for only a few threads.

[Anonymous No.4379678]

>>4379630
2 more for my harem before I move on
quick doodle but whatever

[Anonymous No.4379680]

>>4379630
>2 more for my harem before I move on
>quick doodle but whatever

[Anonymous No.4379696]

>>4379050
Another one

[Anonymous No.4379707]

>>4379696
>Force Drawing
Damn, that's impressive. I'll check that book out as well.

[Anonymous No.4379724]

photo study
i think i believe it at least looks good in the thumbnail

[Anonymous No.4379726]

>>4379724
Getting better.

[Anonymous No.4379731]

>>4379724
nice, post ref plz

[Anonymous No.4379733]

>>4379680
Blog?

[Anonymous No.4379738]

>>4379731

[Anonymous No.4379744]

>>4378022
iris height.

[Anonymous No.4379755]

>>4378765
I think it is more helpful to think of the torso separated into the ribcage + navel than one solid shape. Keep in mind the proportions of the arms and legs as it looks a little janky on the character in the back. Also you should move him a little away from the 2nd character to create a better silhouette and negative space so she is not lost in the composition (please excuse my hasty fill bucket example)

[Anonymous No.4379783]

>>4378775
Her arms are much too long and thin for her body. The elbow comes up to around the navel and her hand should fall right about under the crotch. Do a quick brightness/contrast edit before uploading, the colors will be much more pleasing.

>>4379154
Her head and hands are too big. I like the perspective and posing you have so far.

[Anonymous No.4379795]

>>4379680
I know all my stuff has been animeshit, but what I really want to do is in the style of these old japanese inks / prints. What's the most important thing I should be learning, composition and color? what book should I be reading?
going to buy some lino tomorrow maybe
>>4379733
no
>>4379755
where to learn about composition like this?

[Anonymous No.4379812]

>>4379640
wait can someone actually point out why the hat is so big and how I can fix it.

[Anonymous No.4379816]

>>4379559
I asked my mom

[Anonymous No.4379819]

>>4378775
>>4379783
I thought htis guy was bullshitting / crabbing at first but he's right, do this

[Anonymous No.4379820]

>>4379559
a mirror

[Anonymous No.4379840]

>>4377650
Cute Yui anon!
I'd suggest practicing gesture, anime isn't that detailed but it is dynamic

[Anonymous No.4379843]

>>4379707
When flipping the body to do a back view, edit the feet to face away from the viewer otherwise the character looks like they're floating above the ground. Make sure the elbows are parallel to each other. The eyes will not be visible from that angle since the head is rotated away so you can leave them out. The pelvis/back should also be rotated to fit the 3/4 view and not seem so flat. Add sutble shading to the back to imply the natural concave curvature of the spine.

>>4379795
This video may be helpful to you. Helped remind me of many things I'm lacking in my art as well.

>>4379819
You guys have trust issues haha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8i7OKbWmRM

[Anonymous No.4379858]

>>4379755
thanks for the tips, wish could've seen it earlier but I definitely never considered the composition, good shit

[Anonymous No.4379862]

here is the next layer, I kind of struggle with limbs in general

[Anonymous No.4379874]

>>4379843
to play devil's advocate... and i mean devil because furries deserve hellfire, the eyes might actually be on the sides of the head because it's a prey animal. humans have eyes on the front face of the head, a deer is not exactly following the same rules. It's half way between human and fish as far as eye position.

[Anonymous No.4379908]

>>4378939
are you ok anon?

[Anonymous No.4379913]

>>4378939
I'm so sorry anon.

[Anonymous No.4379915]

>>4379843
Thanks for an overpaint Anon, it's really helpful!

[Anonymous No.4379919]

>>4377739
Your proportions are off the legs are way too small compared to the rest of the body, also work on that line confidence.
Keep it up tho anon.

[Anonymous No.4379926]

lineart is taking forever it will go faster eventually right? right?

[Anonymous No.4379947]

[Anonymous No.4379948]

>>4379947
That's actually really cute. Can you draw more like that.

[Anonymous No.4379999]

[Anonymous No.4380051]

Fucking Alcor FUCK. Dropped way too much white on it and its unredeemable.

But instead of painting over it, I'll just paint my signature around it and in so doing, highlight my mistake.

[Anonymous No.4380062]

>>4379055
Well... I tried.

[Anonymous No.4380063]

>>4380051

Vidit Alcor, at non lunam crescenem

[Anonymous No.4380069]

>>4380062
Oh for fucks sake I didn't even attach the picture.

[Anonymous No.4380074]

>>4380069
ref

[Anonymous No.4380075]

heads with different lighting things no idea what im doing

[Anonymous No.4380091]

>>4380075
I'm no expert but if I may make a suggestion. 1 is to shade it like a sphere not solid black and white. 2 even better would be to use ref.

[Anonymous No.4380094]

>>4380051

Finished.

[Anonymous No.4380118]

>>4379707
Force: Drawing Human Anatomy is the one I'm into right now. Really helps in understanding muscles. I've been actually having fun with it.

[Anonymous No.4380137]

>>4380074
Not /beg/

[Anonymous No.4380143]

why does it look horrible

[Anonymous No.4380149]

>>4380143

[Anonymous No.4380156]

>>4380143
christ that is repulsive

[Anonymous No.4380159]

>>4380137
are you saying the ref i used isn't beg or the sketch i made based on the ref? im beg for sure m8. this anatomy is horrible. :( Anons don't have to be nice. I just wanna get better.

[Anonymous No.4380162]

>>4380143

[Anonymous No.4380164]

>>4380118
This is really really good anon

[Anonymous No.4380165]

>/beg/ - Intermediate Artists

[Anonymous No.4380169]

>>4380143
I think you have potential, lower body's fucked up but she's got a good expression. With some experience you can surely make hot illustrations.
I might try to redline later if I get time unless somebody else gives you some tips

[Anonymous No.4380172]

>>4380165
>>4380143
>>4380091
>>4380075
>>4379947
>>4379862
>>4379783

[Anonymous No.4380195]

>>4380149
>>4380156
>>4380162
I guess that mean im ngmi

[Anonymous No.4380197]

How do you break out of the mindset of outlines and into the mindset of volume? Years of idolizing mango as a youth left me blind to the importance of light and shadow. Now I struggle to visually dissect something I'm looking at outside of the framework of the outer edges of it.

[Anonymous No.4380198]

>>4379559
draw people outside?!

[Anonymous No.4380201]

>>4380198
Im antisocial and an incel

[Anonymous No.4380205]

>>4380143
lol foot nipple

[Anonymous No.4380206]

>>4380195
You just don't understand what you're doing. Go learn some construction and stop copying.

[Anonymous No.4380208]

>>4380195
no... sorry. needs work and im not good enough to give real advice so i just insulted you instead because it was funny to me for 3 seconds. im trying not to do that. i can tell your anatomy has problems, but i commend you for trying. keep at it anon.

[Anonymous No.4380210]

>>4380143
give me your blog

[Anonymous No.4380212]

>>4380201
Can't you just draw them from distance?

[Anonymous No.4380213]

>>4380195
You become ngmi the moment you think you're unable to improve

[Anonymous No.4380219]

>>4380195
Shut the fuck up. If you don't believe in yourself how would you expect others believe in you? Go keep practicing, get better. Never talk shit about yourself, because you can start believing it. Faggot.

[Anonymous No.4380224]

couple heads from imagination b4 studying triceps and arms

[Anonymous No.4380227]

>>4379840

yeah, that sounds like a good idea, thanks!

[Anonymous No.4380228]

>>4380224
Really good drawings
Shame they're lesbians.

[Anonymous No.4380238]

>>4380195
No redline for you, pussy

[Anonymous No.4380239]

>>4380143
Lower body is absolutely fucked and the torso appears too long for the pose, lrn2foreshorten

[Anonymous No.4380245]

fuck, I can't do the loomis skeleton man on digital, but I didn't have issues doing it on paper when I was sketching earlier. I'm gonna eventually learn and be able to do it, right?

[Anonymous No.4380248]

>>4380245
Sure buddy. Keep at it.

[Anonymous No.4380262]

>>4380245
Start with an easier pose

[Anonymous No.4380269]

>>4380224
why tf you don't answer?

[Anonymous No.4380272]

>>4380269
??

[Anonymous No.4380277]

>>4380262
It's not even a hard pose haha, it's just a looking back pose.
>>4380248
I'm definitely gonna sketch some skeleton men on digital sometime this weekend, but I want to finish this last part of my project, so I'm gonna sketch on paper then scan it

[Anonymous No.4380281]

>>4380277
Which is clearly too difficult for you.

[Anonymous No.4380291]

>>4380281
Right. But It's mostly my set up. I have a smaller laptop screen and I have 3 windows open so they're small and awkward. Once I get the hang of the skeleton anyway on paper, it should get easier on digital.

[Anonymous No.4380317]

>>4380164
Thank you. I've been trying to draw for at least 2 hours a day, but there is still a long way ahead of me. I can't for the life of me actually finish any drawings properly, so for now I just stick to many quick sketches. Still, the hands, feet and faces are a bane of my existence.

[Anonymous No.4380337]

>>4380291
A poor craftsman blames his tools. Don't get in the habit of deflecting. It protects your ego but blinds you to legitimate criticism.

[Anonymous No.4380348]

>>4380277
>>4380337
Literally what he said. If you think what you drew is acceptable and just looks like a situation where you're trying to get used to the tools - I can't say I believe you

[Anonymous No.4380369]

>>4380337
>>4380348
I'm not at all saying that what I posted was acceptable at all. If I thought it was passible in anyway, I would have worked with it. But it's really not. I'm just gonna switch to a medium I know I can get a more proper looking skeleton going so I can finish up what I'm working on. The blame is on my lack of experience in construction and I know this.

[Anonymous No.4380377]

>>4380245
bro what are you doing

[Anonymous No.4380379]

>>4379999
Nice quads
To the nightmare waifu folder this goes

[Anonymous No.4380382]

>>4380245
my nigga are you using a mouse

[Nosebro No.4380384]

>>4377354
leave beg
>>4377754
leave beg
>>4377790
leave beg
>>4377798
close
>>4377806
leave beg
>>4379707
furry against the rules, leave ic.

[Anonymous No.4380393]

>>4380377
sucking ass lul
>>4380382
No, a tablet and pen, I just suck with it. Althought, I'm wondering if I'm hindering myself by using lineweight/smooth stroke when I do digital drawing

[Anonymous No.4380395]

[Anonymous No.4380417]

>>4380393
Why would that be hindering yourself? It's not as though line weight doesn't exist in physical media. As for smooth stroke, if your lines are much wobblier than that on page, I got some bad news.

[Anonymous No.4380418]

>>4380393
Post your traditional artwork then, if you really believe its your tools.

[Anonymous No.4380422]

more triceps

[Anonymous No.4380424]

>>4380422
The face on the left is great, not a fan of the anime style on the right.

[Anonymous No.4380425]

>>4380172
what is this facial expression? im just getting surprise. like "hmph." maybe im being autistic.

[Anonymous No.4380439]

I tried to fix it up eariler but it still looked wrong. What would you guys reccommend(books/videos/courses, ect.) That would help me the most.
Should i scrap trying to attempt to render and colour it?

[Anonymous No.4380456]

>>4380224

at this point do you still build the construction?

[Anonymous No.4380464]

>>4380417
When I sketch, I do small lines which I am aware now is wrong since I read Loomis and try to do longer more confident lines. When I used to do inking on paper, I did do single confident lines though, I never did short little lines if that makes sense. >>4380418
Sure. Here, I actually could do the skeleton. I know it doesn't look good, not at all, but I still need to practice it some more. Plus, I did >>4379466 on paper as well. I may have confused everyone. Or maybe I confused myself. I'm not blaming my bad skeleton on my tablet entirely. I just don't *know* yet how to draw it, so it's easier for me to do it on paper since I spent much more time drawing on paper with digital being a medium within the last 3ish months.

[Anonymous No.4380465]

>>4380456
Yea, loomis construction for heads

[Anonymous No.4380511]

>>4380439
I'm not skilled enough to be red lining your work, but I think I'm seeing where the main problem is. It seems like you're both trying to use two different perspectives at the same time. B for her upper body, and C for her lower body - assuming her ass is plastered to the ground and her legs are out like a frog's, which is as best I can interpret what you have. I think if you want the best of both worlds, with bent-akimbo legs and a more natural viewing angle, you would be better off with A, where her ass is not on the ground.
New to /ic/, apologies if DesignDoll is frowned upon. Obviously referencing something real is better but I couldn't find anything that illustrated the problem neatly.

[Anonymous No.4380527]

>>4380172
DONT LAUGH AT ME I DIDNT COME HERE TO GET LAUGHED AT

[Anonymous No.4380544]

>>4380511
Thank you anon. I tried to use design doll earlier but i think i fucked it up somewhere down the road. Ill retry again tommorow.

[Anonymous No.4380568]

>>4378307
slowly but surely coming together a bit. definitely made the head too big on her this time I think, will keep in mind for next time.

[Anonymous No.4380718]

>>4380425
I personally interpreted it as someone trying not to laugh, or just about to laugh.

[Anonymous No.4380745]

>>4380224
gmi

[Anonymous No.4380766]

>>4379783
Ty anon

[Anonymous No.4381035]

new
>>4381034

>>4381034

[Anonymous No.4381058]

>>4377650
it's almost good dude, it's aesthetically pleasing, i can tell you're probably really happy with this. it just needs loomis, no memes, proportions are fucked up. some of is 2dish.

[Anonymous No.4381138]

>>4380069
haven't compared proportions but it's ugly in terms of appeal

[Anonymous No.4381141]

>>4380143
she looks line she's taking a painful shit
I can see her benis!

[Anonymous No.4381325]

>>4381058
You are right, my form/proportions are really lacking. I already read loomis, but I never internalized the concepts tho. I guess I will give it another shot. Thanks!

[Anonymous No.4382529]

>>4377715
Dude cmon