/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4373278]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

previous >>4368965

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj
RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

[Anonymous No.4373303]

My robot became lobsterized.

[Anonymous No.4373311]

I'm tired of being a complete beginner every single day, year after year. convince me not to fucking break my wacom Pen and end everything right now.

[Anonymous No.4373312]

>>4373311
Break your wacom pen and work traditionally for a year

[Anonymous No.4373313]

>>4373311
post your work first.

[Anonymous No.4373314]

>>4373312
I did traditional for 3 years before getting wacom cause I thought it would be better for practicing

[Anonymous No.4373317]

>>4373311
>I'm tired of being a complete beginner

bruh im tired of living kek

[Anonymous No.4373318]

[Anonymous No.4373321]

>>4373314
Either you're a retard or a liar. You waited three years before you bough a tool to help you draw? Hey genius, don't wait for anything. Try everything immediately. Use every tool you can get your hands on. Study every artist and every technique. The egos on some people is unreal. Jesus Christ...If you want to get good, you ought to be clawing your way like a cornered animal toward success everyday.

You waited 3 years to buy a tablet?

Fuck off

[Anonymous No.4373327]

>>4373311
most professional artists trace and take colors from existing compositions

[Anonymous No.4373328]

>>4373321
I am a retard then

[Anonymous No.4373332]

>>4373314
Stop lying. If you did anything the past three years it was probably slacking and pretending 10 minutes a day/week was enough.

[Anonymous No.4373333]

>>4373327
yeah people at the top literally traced over many works, copied whole photos and stuff like that.
I bet u could google many top artists and find such dirt on them

[Anonymous No.4373337]

>>4373332
Its been 5 years

[Anonymous No.4373341]

>>4373313

[Anonymous No.4373342]

>>4373311
post work or shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.4373348]

>>4373303
i like this

[Anonymous No.4373352]

Please don't fall for the drawabox meme if you're planning to draw humans.
Peter Han is better, but don't follow his course either if you want to draw humans.
There are a shitton of artists that specialize in figure drawing that can help you out way better.
You can always do Peter Han's course afterwards, when you want to start drawing animals/insects/environments

[Anonymous No.4373359]

>>4373352
whats wrong with drawabox?

[Anonymous No.4373362]

>>4373359
There's nothing wrong with it.
But it's not the most efficient way to do figure drawings.
Drawabox works well for other stuff like insects and exotic animals because most of us aren't very familiar with those things, so even if you mess something up it will still look fine.
But when it comes to humans, drawabox's construction method's won't get you very far.

[Anonymous No.4373371]

>>4373362
Drawabox isn't for learning how to humans or construction if anything is just a better fun with a pencil but it actually works

[Anonymous No.4373376]

>>4372794

[Anonymous No.4373379]

>>4373376
Those are some cool Murlocs. I only ever played the weird game on flash, but I always thought it had more potential.

[Anonymous No.4373387]

>>4373376

i want to see you render those.

[Anonymous No.4373403]

>>4373362
hm, what if i suck at everything besides drawing people, most of the books i have are on figure drswing a nd facial structure, and most of the time i draw for fun rather than triying to work on something i end up drawing people, maybe its a good way for me to balance things out

[Anonymous No.4373411]

i don't know how to draw asholes, can i be an animeCHAD now? when does someone leaves /beg/

[Anonymous No.4373412]

>>4373411
fug

[Anonymous No.4373416]

>>4373412
Until you draw a full figure with hands, feet planted on the ground all within perspective.

[Anonymous No.4373417]

>>4373412
I like it even if it's not great. Would be even better to see it finished.

[Anonymous No.4373418]

>>4373411
>>4373412
i think theres a dedicated cumbrain thread you can post in

[Anonymous No.4373429]

>>4373352
>>4373362
I thought the whole point of drawabox was line confidence and perspective for beginners

[Anonymous No.4373430]

>>4373418
there's nothing sexual you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.4373435]

>>4373429
>line confidence
you are right about the other one

[Anonymous No.4373443]

>>4373435
Im truly a small brain /beg/ when it comes to drawing but I dont understand whats wrong with line confidence?

[Anonymous No.4373481]

>>4373435
but it is about line confidence though. That's why you use a fineliner and that ghosting technique

[Anonymous No.4373482]

>>4373443
Don't reply to wojak posters.
You are right, drawabox is about line confidence.

[Anonymous No.4373514]

How does one "blog" their work? Tumblr? Deviantart? Twitter? Are any of these good?

[Anonymous No.4373516]

>>4373514
Doesn't matter as long as it's got your art on it. People want to see more.

[Anonymous No.4373529]

>>4373516
>People want to see more.
N-nobody's ever asked for MY blog. They just say my art is hideous.

[Anonymous No.4373546]

>>4373529
>post some mediocre shit I made
>someone replies with 'blog?'
>assume they're making fun of me so don't reply

[Anonymous No.4373560]

>>4373546
kek same here

[Anonymous No.4373566]

[Anonymous No.4373571]

>tried drawing a perfect circle for an hour
>ended up getting mad and snapped my huion in half
Bad fucking day. Fucking anime faggots pissed me off early too here. Fuck you

[Anonymous No.4373578]

>>4373571
not gonna make it

[Anonymous No.4373582]

>>4373571
Drawing 100% perfect circles doesn't mean god-tier art skills, it just means you can draw a 100% perfect circle.

[Anonymous No.4373590]

First time trying digital, here are some gestures

[Anonymous No.4373597]

>>4373571

you don't get good in one day and you're suppose to use it as warm up. fill full pages of basic geometric shapes then move on to other shit.

>>4373582

of course it doesn't mean god tier. sigh... but it sure help a lot in drawing. I mean A LOT.

[Anonymous No.4373601]

>>4373597
>sigh
Cringe

[Anonymous No.4373608]

>>4373597
I dunno, these look fine enough to me. And I consider geometrically perfect circles to be dead objects anyway, they don’t lead anywhere and just go around(like a circle, duh).

[Anonymous No.4373611]

>>4373608
>he thinks these look okay
Everyone point and laugh at him

[Anonymous No.4373615]

>>4373608
>those circles
ngmi

[Anonymous No.4373628]

My colony fell and this character was the only one I screenshoted to draw. So I made this in memory of the colony. Any critiques?

[Anonymous No.4373630]

>>4373628
ref 1

[Anonymous No.4373635]

>>4373628
ref 2

[Anonymous No.4373682]

[Anonymous No.4373710]

>>4373278
forgot to post this when I finished it

[Anonymous No.4373714]

>>4373710
I like it dude, GMI.

[Anonymous No.4373734]

I have basic competency at all forms of art (realistic, western cartoon, anime, animation, 3DCG) but excel at none, if my goal is solely to make as much money as possible per hour of effort on mediocre commissions what should I draw, in what medium should I draw it, and where should I shill my work to advertise commissions? Assume that no fetish will gross me out too much.

[Anonymous No.4373745]

>>4373278
Just started Gesture by Vilppu. I am enjoying it a lot! but there are times when he mentions the seeing portion of the gesture drawing. How do you guys visualize what you are about to draw? do you see the model like the one on the left or are you visualizing the lines?

[Anonymous No.4373850]

>>4373714
thanks man. need to get better at figures and construction in general

[Anonymous No.4373852]

[Anonymous No.4373854]

[Anonymous No.4373890]

I'm busting my balls trying to get gesture drawing down, grinding quickposes.com

It bothers me because I've looked online and I've seen different artists do it dozens of different ways. Am I even on the right track? These are short ones I think, 30-45 seconds.

[Anonymous No.4373900]

>>4373278
Feedback please, I swear I’m not a coomer, I just love to draw the female figure, especially asses.

[Anonymous No.4373909]

idkkk

[Anonymous No.4373916]

found a pen in CSP that feels JUST like an almost out of ink fine liner and i love it

[Anonymous No.4373932]

Should I get a tablet as a complete noskill beg or just stick to the paper and pencil for now?

[Anonymous No.4373936]

>>4373932
I feel like people are going to tell you to get a tablet but honestly why spend the money unless you know for certain it's something you're going to keep doing.

[Anonymous No.4373949]

>>4373932
get tablet to learn how to render crap, use sketchbook to work on fundies.

[Anonymous No.4373952]

>>4373916
Mind sharing? That looks good.

[Anonymous No.4373955]

>>4373852
Nice job, how long have you been drawing? Are these from imagination or reference?

>>4373916
Love your shapes :)

Just a few doodles because I'm feeling lazy

[Anonymous No.4374038]

[Anonymous No.4374071]

>>4373571
>tried drawing a perfect circle for an hour
Why?

[Anonymous No.4374076]

>>4373955
I think I finally need to man up and start learning about proportions and train my eye as well.

[Anonymous No.4374095]

>>4373682
haha nice cock

[Anonymous No.4374097]

>>4373852
>>4373854
i think youre no longer beg my dude

[Anonymous No.4374108]

>want to draw stuff
>start studying
>studying feels like shit
>get depressed
Why is everything so hard. Why cant I love studying and hate something else, fuxkingbgkf

[Anonymous No.4374116]

>>4374108
have a sketchbook dedicated to drawing what you know will make you feek good and learn how to feel good from the process of drawing instead of feeling good beacuse of the result

[Anonymous No.4374117]

>>4374116
Part of the problem is that I can't draw anything. I'd need to start studying to draw something and I just cant

[Anonymous No.4374120]

>>4374116
Not the anon you replied to, but when you can't draw for shit nothing you draw makes you feel good

[Anonymous No.4374121]

>>4374117
you do, even if its he most simple stuff, doesnt have ti be a finished drawing, squares, circles, straight lines will do, also, second point is more important, when yoi learn to enjoybdrawing and learning even when it turns out shitty you get a lot of mileage

[Anonymous No.4374122]

>>4374121
How can I make drawing circles enjoyable?

[Anonymous No.4374123]

>>4374120
>>4374121

[Anonymous No.4374126]

>>4374122
higjly subjective, but for me its the simplicity of it, the fact that every single on is different, and how from time to time you get blessed by rng and get one thats especially circular, also concentrating on how the grip of tye oen feels and how it rubs against the paper, same applies to when drawing parallel lines or boxes, also extra bonus for drawing boxes is that you have managed to represent a 3d object onto a 2d plane

[Anonymous No.4374128]

>>4374126
it feels the same as amassing a big amout of collectibles in a vidogame

[Anonymous No.4374129]

>>4374126
I'm sorry, but that all sounds pretty childish, like what a child would enjoy. When you know what drawing can do, just drawing 10 circles aint really that amazing.

[Anonymous No.4374130]

>>4374128
I dont enjoy that.

[Anonymous No.4374132]

>>4374122
There is no need to just sit there drawing circles over and over. That's crab advice.

[Anonymous No.4374134]

>>4374129
it is childish, but its either that or criying on beg about you getting frustrated because you suck massive shit and youre not capable of drawing even a good looking eye or a quick sketch of a cute simple anime girl

[Anonymous No.4374135]

>>4374117
>I can't draw anything
Start by drawing copies of other artists' work. Can you do that?

[Anonymous No.4374138]

>>4374132
of course there is no need for it, its just a way to blow off steam for when you get frustrated, ideally you would be drawing something that you are very good at, bt anon her says thathe doenst know how draw literlly anything

[Anonymous No.4374139]

>>4374135
Only tracing, and I always feel bad about it

[Anonymous No.4374143]

>>4374139
Ok, so first step is that you need to make the transition from tracing to copying without tracing. Don't worry about anything else. Just make this your one artistic goal for now.
It's fine if your copies suck at first. They will get better with practice. It's also ok if you keep using tracing as training wheels for a while. You can try doing two copies of a picture, one traced and one without, and eventually move on to not using tracing.

[Anonymous No.4374144]

>>4374129
Feel free to draw 10 perfect circles and post them then, if it's so fucking childish.

You think professional boxers who spend hours upon hours practicing their jab don't find it boring? Or shooting balls through a hoop from the same spot over and over and over?

You're not that fucking special, you imbecile. Everyone had to learn how to study the fundamentals and enjoy the process of getting better. If you think drawing circles is too childish, like it's not one of the most important shapes you'll need to draw anything, then leave the fucking hobby because you're never. gonna. make. it.

[Anonymous No.4374161]

>>4374144
>one of the most important shapes
Just use the circle tool nigga. Just literally have a machine do it for you.

[Anonymous No.4374162]

>>4374144
I'm not saying circles are easy or bad to draw, but that feeling the pen and paper isn't that enjoyable anymore.

[Anonymous No.4374164]

>>4374144
>then leave the fucking hobby because you're never. gonna. make. it.
I wont make it either way, dude

[Anonymous No.4374169]

Is my linework still rather bland and what should I do to improve my lineweight skill? I am going for thin lines

[Anonymous No.4374182]

>>4374169
inner detail lines should be thin and barely there compared to outlines unless it's where two shapes meet or a feature line. Currently because all lines are almost the same the image seems too busy and i dont know where to look

[Anonymous No.4374191]

>>4374144
>enjoy the process of getting better
Well how do you learn this then

[Anonymous No.4374211]

>>4374191
Let's say you want to learn line weights. Don't just grind line weights like a robot. Grind line weights but also figure out how what you're doing can be applied to what you want to do. Study other artists who do line weights like you want to do line weights. And then draw something for yourself that involves many uses of line weights so you can practice what you've learnt.

The joy in learning does not come automatically. It comes when you can see what you've learnt helping you draw what you want to draw.

So when people tell beginners to do fundamentals they don't mean "do nothing but" fundamentals. They mean you should be studying the fundamentals alongside drawing for fun, so you can apply what you're learning and immediately see an improvement.

It's just that. Every time you practice something you put it into a piece you want to create. And the more you do this the happier you get and you'll just start looking forward to learning something new because you know that it WILL and HOW it will improve the drawings you want to make.

Which obviously leads to the point that you should be studying the things that will make the art you want to make better. If all you want to do is draw Steven Universe fanart, then a deep understanding of perspective construction is unnecessary and you should just brush up on the basics of perspective then figure it out from there.

This is standard self improvement stuff. You will never be happy if the only thing that will make you happy is a good end result, or even worse, likes. It's the process that needs to make you happy.

If you like drawing than drawing should make you happy, not a JPEG file at the end of it.

[Anonymous No.4374214]

>>4374120
Which is why you study, so that the drawings you make aren't shit. If you're not willing to put in the effort to get better, then how are you gonna get better? No-one said this shit is easy.

[Anonymous No.4374216]

>>4374161
Learning to draw circles isn't about drawing circles. It's about line and pen control, and hand-eye co-ordination.

[Anonymous No.4374217]

>>4374214
>can't draw because need study
>can't study because can't draw

[Anonymous No.4374218]

>>4374211
>you should be studying the fundamentals alongside drawing for fun
And thats the problem when you can't draw for fun

[Anonymous No.4374221]

>>4374162
Then maybe drawing isn't for you? And, mind you, you don't have to get better either. When we're kids we just draw because we enjoy drawing. If the process of getting better is sucking the joy out of drawing for you, and the prospect of getting better isn't motivating enough, then maybe you should just draw instead of study. If that's what makes you happy, nothing wrong with that.

[Anonymous No.4374222]

>>4374221
>When we're kids we just draw because we enjoy drawing.
I didn't. I hated drawing then because I couldn't make even a basic car or a stickman when everyone else drew "cool cars" and shit around me.

[Anonymous No.4374223]

>>4374211
>If you like drawing than drawing should make you happy
It should, but it doesn't

[Anonymous No.4374226]

>>4374223
adjust your expectations then

[Anonymous No.4374227]

>>4374217
>>4374218
>>4374222
>>4374223
> drawing doesn't make me happy
Then just stop drawing, bro. Nothing wrong with that. If drawing doesn't make you happy because you're not good at it, and studying doesn't make you happy because you can't find joy in knowing that you're working on improving yourself and your art, then you know the answer here.

Don't get pulled into the sunk cost fallacy. You can quit at any time if what you're doing doesn't bring you joy. This isn't a matter of ego. There are many, many hobbies out there. One of them will make you happy.

[Anonymous No.4374230]

>>4374227
>There are many, many hobbies out there. One of them will make you happy.
I've already tried everything else I could do inside my apartment. I ain't going outside, I'd rather just be without hobbies then if I need to do something elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.4374231]

>>4374227
Don't listen to this guy. Being happy is for chumps. Choose accomplishing things over being happy.

[Anonymous No.4374233]

Where do I get started on rendering ?
I have a basic understanding of lighting and how a surface's orientation influences how lit it is, but every time I try to do something more complex than hard shadows it just looks blurry and undefined.

[Anonymous No.4374234]

>>4373909
could center her neck + connect closer to clavicles. navel seems too low. far leg looks like its forwardly offset from the pelvis. close leg vastus lateralis looks like it should start higher up and cover more of her gluteus medius. not bad anon, keep it up.

[Anonymous No.4374235]

[Anonymous No.4374253]

>>4374233
Second this

[Anonymous No.4374256]

Bodies are too hard, not even models help. Fuck.

[Anonymous No.4374263]

>>4374227
>you can't find joy in knowing that you're working on improving yourself and your art
Maybe there would be joy if there was improvement at all, but constantly failing to understand stuff and not being able to fall on any safetynet really eats away your sanity.

[Anonymous No.4374264]

>>4374235
Did you ever draw (link below) with a bare tits version?

https://twitter.com/TrueLolzor/status/1227343833215700993

[Anonymous No.4374265]

Trying to find ways to make the composition better or artists to look for for how to properly paint a damn flower. Right now it’s unfinished and I’m struggling to find the motivation to finish

[Anonymous No.4374271]

>>4374256
Weren't you the guy bragging in /asg/ about how you figured out that construction is the answer to everything

[Anonymous No.4374274]

>>4374271
I wasn't bragging, I was asking why one should do x instead of y because I don't understand it myself at all.

[Anonymous No.4374276]

>>4374264
No :(

[Anonymous No.4374284]

>>4373710
its like robotech for autistic zoomer perverts

[Anonymous No.4374287]

>>4374235
imo this is not beg. go to int or alt or something.

[Anonymous No.4374299]

>>4374235
based

[Anonymous No.4374310]