Vent thread

[Anonymous No.4340233]

>See a high demand for OC from current world events
>Start to pander again for the first time in years
>Aspiring to see others posting the piece and enjoying the content
>Post it subtly when appropriate as to not come off as attention whoring
>No (yous)
>Nobody reposts
>See other pieces get constantly reposted and being enjoyed
>Check the archives to see if it has been reposted at least once
>Not even a single repost
>End up feeling like a used up whore and incredibly stupid
>Meanwhile Anons are starting to have fap rituals on other people's drawings to hex other third world countries
>Someone posts a picture of them cooming on a /beg/ tier drawing, giving the highest form of compliment that an artist can get
>mfw

[Anonymous No.4340254]

Post your work, clown.

[Anonymous No.4340281]

should've followed the spec and given her the chinese dress

[Anonymous No.4340316]

Suicidal thoughts have gotten really bad recently so I took up drawing to give me something to do. I'm not very good at it and, understandably, I've gotten some very (not undeserved) harsh feedback.
It's the only way I'll get any better, but I'm terrified that continuing to post here is going to push me over the edge. I used to have really thick skin, I don't know what happened.

[Anonymous No.4340326]

>>4340316
Man the fuck up, of course you're going to get harsh feedback. If anons shitposting is enough to set you over the edge, go see a fuckin psychiatrist

[Anonymous No.4340332]

so what happened to the guy who used to post plenty of shiburin doodles like a year ago?

[Anonymous No.4340605]

>>4340233
That just means your drawing is not good or interesting enough, happens to me a lot too

[Anonymous No.4340640]

>>4340316
>>4340326
harsh feedback isnt necessary when it turns into "loomis ur shit, shit anatomy, crab /beg/"
Actually getting constructive feedback in what you did wrong, why and how to fix it will help you improve tenfold over ant of that shit. 100% do not come to /ic/ for actual criticism because the likelihood of you getting anything approaching constructive is near zero. You're honestly better off analyzing your own pieces but really go to any other place for criticism.

[Anonymous No.4340654]

>>4340332
Died from STDs.

[Anonymous No.4340752]

>younger brother just found out about my Twitter
>mfw

[Anonymous No.4340760]

>feel like a used up whore because no one is reposting your drawing
>instead, wished people would post them COOMING on your drawing
So... that wouldn't make you a used up whore?

[Anonymous No.4340769]

>live in 3rd world shithole
>come back home after 2 years
>mom just retired and started a blog to earn money now that she has time
>she's getting me art gigs that let me stay home all day everyday
I love my mom, is this what getting a manager feels like?

[Anonymous No.4340796]

>>4340760
Felt like a used up whore because of the pandering, imagine bending over expecting someone to fuck you and nothing happens and you're still there bent over backwards feeling like an absolute retard. It's such a buzz kill

[Anonymous No.4340807]

Been trying to draw for a hundred days now, don’t have time for studies so I’ve been doing drawings from imagination or observation of people passing by. I know results form in longer time, but a small percentage of me is impatient

[Anonymous No.4340814]

>>4340807
Like, I gotta believe in the grind. But my self appreciation of my sketches fluctuate. Some days I feel like I’m moving forwards, other days I feel like I’ve reverted back to my middle school drawings. It’s an emotional roller coaster for sure

[Anonymous No.4340856]

I end up losing motivation too quickly when working on a drawing. My resolution this year was to make more art, but so far I've only managed to shit out one painting this month that sprouted from a dumbass joke and was just for me to test out new software. Last year I only made 6 completed works, and I started drawing two years ago. I'm scared I'm NGMI if I don't get out of this slump.

[Anonymous No.4340932]

How do I not

[Anonymous No.4340953]

>know I’m living on borrowed time because when I get out of college there will be no jobs for me
>just not good enough, not fast enough

[Anonymous No.4340971]

>>4340932
This pic really speaks to me. And yet I still love to draw.

[Anonymous No.4341108]

>sleep
>in a dream see art with amazing style
>think to self that this is what I what my art look like
>try to memorize
>wake up with only vague recollection of what it was

Why my own consciousness have to cockblock me

[Anonymous No.4341114]

>>4340932

[Anonymous No.4341138]

How do I make my hand to draw a circle exactly as envisioned by my brain

[Anonymous No.4341148]

>>4340796
> you're still there bent over backwards

That's what you did wrong, anon. If you want me to fuck you, you need to bend over FORWARDS.

[Anonymous No.4341151]

>>4341138
Draw a billion circles. Seriously though, draw a lot of circles. I don't mean ten. I mean a hundred. You'll see improvement. I promise.

[Anonymous No.4341158]

>>4341114
>>4340971
>>4340932
>>4340856
Listen here you little shits, and every anon who says they sit down to draw and cannot start.

You need a fucking project. I can't believe how long I did what you're describing, but I got myself a little project and it turned my life around. Now I sit down, pick up my pen and fucking draw.

Of course it's fucking hard to sit down and draw when you don't have any idea where to start. Get yourselves a goddamn project before your brains melt. It can be whatever you want. It can be a comic. It can be a series of illustrations of people walking dogs. It can be a series of paintings using nothing but yellow and red. It can be studying anatomy for a month. But find a project and stick to it. Pick something fucking stupid and do it for X days/months/illustrations/issues. The more specific it is, the easier it will be.

For fuck's sake. Imagine you're a writer. If you sit down to write every day "a short story" you're gonna kill yourself before you start. But if you sit down to "continue the novel" or "write another sci-fi short" or "write a paragraph from the perspective of a government worker" you are going to have it so much easier.

Answer this: imagine you had my number and every time you sat down to draw you called me and asked "what am I gonna draw?" and I gave you an answer. If you think that would solve your problem, then you need a fucking project.

Now go, pick a project, and draw.

[Anonymous No.4341199]

>>4341138
imagine a circle on the page
trace that imaginary circle

[Anonymous No.4341223]

>>4341158
Maybe I didn't understand well the picture, but I don't get why you included me >>4340971 in this post.

It's a great advice though and I am working on a game. But I still frequently have hard times when I draw.

[Anonymous No.4341224]

>>4341151
>a hundred
Not nearly enough, I have done hundreds and my circles look like dogshit.

[Anonymous No.4341231]

>>4341224
I'm sure after you do a page or 2 of circles you get into the motion of it but after a while of not doing pure circle practice your motor abilities get weaker. I don't think you could ever "master" the circle; you just have to keep lifting the weight every now and then to stay in shape.

[Anonymous No.4341234]

>>4341231
Also think of it like this, if you really wanted a pure perfect circle just use a template or protractor. If you can get a circle down on the page even if you have to "tune-up" around it 2 to 3 times you're doing just fine.

[Anonymous No.4341236]

>>4341223
Sorry, I misunderstood your post :)

[Anonymous No.4341249]

>>4340752
>Friends found my Pixiv
>They followed

[Anonymous No.4341261]

>>4340752

I get the feeling siblings just know how to find you without much effort. I know my brothers online handles because I just know how he acts and he's retarded by leaving context clues and papertrails.

[Anonymous No.4341298]

>want to take up drawing
>be already 30
>i guess neuro plasticity won't be on my side
>no privacy in my room to draw
Feels bad man.

[Anonymous No.4341306]

>>4340640
I've literally gotten really good criticism every single time I've posted here. I've also gotten the best criticisms I've ever received here. Whilst I admit there are a lot of people who will give meme replies, the whole point of the board is to pyw and ask for Criticism. And generally, you'll get some pretty good feedback. Other times you'll get shit like pic related. It just kinda be like that.

[Anonymous No.4341364]

>have been at stuck at 300 followers for the past 2 years
Should I delete current twitter, grind and git Gud and restart with pandering in mind? The social media game shit

[Anonymous No.4341368]

>>4341364
300 should be enough to get some returning clients if your 300 followers are loyal and not acquired through pandering in the first place.

Also there's no need to delete your account in order to start pandering, just do it.

To me I only see growth streaks when I post every day, very sucky system.

[Anonymous No.4341388]

I had a thought to try out my Intuos again since I have a big monitor that's pretty good, but when I installed all the drivers and whatnot it just didn't work. Restarting the computer didn't help and it just kept popping up these notifications about permissions or some shit. Tried to fix it but nothing worked and I just wanted to fucking draw. Jesus Christ I Lost my shit and I'll never go back to that thing. I'll stick to my iPad and sketchbook.

[Anonymous No.4341433]

>look back at my draw folders for the past 3 years
>I've been repeating the same things over and over again

I really do have autism....

[Anonymous No.4341448]

>>4341158

[Anonymous No.4341449]

>>4341158
I'm >>4340856

Working on a project would definitely help me with my goal. I appreciate you pointing it out to my autistic ass

[Anonymous No.4341461]

>>4340233
Insta: bigladyDs

[Anonymous No.4341571]

>>4341298
>he fell for the neuro plasticity meme
Just stop breathing anon

[Anonymous No.4341657]

>>4340233
do anyone have a way to not want validation for every fucking piece you do? Meditation or some shit. I'm shallow and hate myself.

[Anonymous No.4341680]

I am a poorfag, I can't afford any school, I can't get a job because I live in a shitty place (and also because I am a social retard), I have depression since I'm a kid, it tooks me years to realize it. I wanted (finally) to see a therapist but I haven't had any health insurance for about 3 months due to an administrative issue. I try to keep drawing everyday but it's hard, I don't feel okay and it really affects my skills. I suck at social media and I keep losing followers. My only chance to get some money is fading away.
I really feel exhausted. I try to stay positive and push myself to do something with my life but it always ends up the same.
I won't do an hero to not screw up my brothers' life, but man I am tired to be lost like this.

[Anonymous No.4341746]

I can't enjoy my doujins anymore because everytime I try to fap to them I start noticing stuff about how the artist draws certain parts of the human body, shading techniques and the anatomy of the girls. Basically the same reason I stopped vidya developing because I couldn't enjoy vidya casually anymore without jugding them from a technical level and paying attention to every little thing.

[Anonymous No.4341753]

>>4341746
I had good art taste since 15 and can't fap to anyone other than hirame or anyone with really good and dynamic construction.

[Anonymous No.4341762]

>>4341158
what if you're getting frustrated easily by sucking at what you did more than usual?

[Anonymous No.4341792]

>Check Japanese artists I follow
>They spend their entire day taking pictures of their cats, whatever they eat, taking screenshots of whatever they grinded at their phone's gacha games or posting mindless blabber.
>In the remaining 5% of the day they manage to output incredible works
To be fair I got already past the point of being angry or sad about this since drawing became my main leisure activity but there is still something really off about all of this and can't put my finger on it.

[Anonymous No.4341829]

>>4341158
i agree, but i dont get the phone part

[Anonymous No.4341836]

>>4341792
yeah because taking a picture takes hours to do not just seconds

[Anonymous No.4341847]

>>4341680
Forget social media, alternate between doing studies to git gud and drawing something for yourself.

[Anonymous No.4341862]

>>4341847
and by study, it means look at what you did wrong and make nots to improve, on topp of drawing the picture

[Anonymous No.4341984]

>>4340233
when you draw something for your own enjoyment, at best, it will be enjoyed by other people too. at worst, it will only be enjoyed by you. but you'll still come away pleased with yourself.

when you draw only for other's approval, of course you're going to feel like a whore when it doesn't come.

>>4341158
this anon is GMI
>>4341448
this anon will anhero inside the next 5 years

[Anonymous No.4342073]

>>4341657
take out your frustration at life out on the weights and treadmill at the gym

[Anonymous No.4342139]

>>4340233
Post your Corona chan cmon dont be precious

[Anonymous No.4342199]

>Have always done shitty art once in a while for a few years
>wanna get good
>start learning art from books like loomis and drawing on the right side of the brain
>always feel intimidated when other people post their amazing shit and when I see red line feedback for others on /beg/
>Friend told me I couldnt loomis (and he's right)
>I take a long time drawing even the simplest shit
> have a sense of dread just happen when drawing
>can't draw for fun anymore as I feel like I should be practicing instead of prancing around

Man. I just want to have fun while drawing.

[Anonymous No.4342240]

>>4341158
What if you're not ready for a project?

[Anonymous No.4342254]

>>4342199
Apply the practice techniques to things you find fun to draw, mate

[Anonymous No.4342268]

>>4342254
Say, I want to draw characters, but I still can't even do straight lines or split body parts by shapes.

Then a friend who has been arting told me that I couldn't do loomis properly till I learned not to symbol draw and now I'm just drawing real things I see from the right side of the brain book and feel like deviating will make me go back to my old ways.

[Anonymous No.4342333]

>>4341762
channel that frustration into drawing more and getting better

[Anonymous No.4342348]

>>4340332
Is there a story behind that?

[Anonymous No.4342353]

>>4342348
he is now a she

[Anonymous No.4342357]

>>4342353
uh oh
That means a 40% suicide rate
Shit!

[Anonymous No.4342364]

I feel just as retarded with my art as i did 6 months ago im starting to think "just draw" is a meme

[Anonymous No.4342369]

>>4342364
>as i did 6 months ago
Are you the same anon that said he didn't gain anything from his 6 months of Loomis?

[Anonymous No.4342376]

>>4340233
>College assignments largely disjoint from the lecture notes for no goddamn reason.
>Schedule is magically designed to have 1 option whilst maximizing time on campus
>Professor and TAs take their sweet time to respond to students asking for help through some website.
>Most students don't even ask for help until the last day of an assignment.
>4th year in CS and not 1 class gave a tutorial on making a desktop calculator app.
>Game science is actually useful but can't backpedal now.
>Haha actually you need a resume with actual projects to get a job.
>Actually you can drown in this compiler assignment instead, it's not like you had a life or anything.
>And it's definitely not like your time here bred a deadweight coder who's better off learning things alone or through training or anything.

[Anonymous No.4342378]

>>4340752
Same except
>Hey anon, you've gotten really good!
>Thinks my OCs are cool.

[Anonymous No.4342386]

>>4342369
No only loomis book i took a look at was figure drawing for all its worth

[Anonymous No.4342399]

>got caught studying anatomy at the barracks
>sarg flips through
>sees nudes and bodies
>starts berating me because he's a muslim
>convince him these are for medical studies/work
>now everyone's calling me Doc
>had to deal with the medical officer testing me all day when he knows less about anatomy than even me
I managed to spend a good while without an officer knowing my name, works going to be a lot more stressful now.

Least they didn't find out I'm an apostate/heretic.

[Anonymous No.4342422]

>>4342399
Mind if I steal your greentext story to use in a bara doujin in the same style-vein as gengoroh tagame

[Anonymous No.4342435]

Realized i have been persuing a hopeless fantasy all this time.
>cannot study the career i want
>cannot spend my money how i want
>cannot live a comfy life in a nice appartment
All that awaits me in this country is wageslaving to give all my money to the state so they can finance their populism, and i would rather starve than do that. The only good thing to come off that is that now that i am a futureless NEET i can spend all my time drawing.

[Anonymous No.4342442]

>>4342240
What does that even mean? What do you mean you're not ready for a project?

How is that even possible?

This isn't "A Project", in the sense that it needs to be super polished and commercial ready. No, anon, this is just something you've planned to do for a period of time.

If your project needs to be "dancing boxes" where you draw ten boxes in perspective properly interacting with each other every day so be it.

The point is to sit down and already know what to draw.

[Anonymous No.4342446]

>>4341449
You're welcome, anon, now go draw.

[Anonymous No.4342455]

>>4341657
Nah, man. If I get less likes than usual on something I start second-guessing everything I've done and know. But I kinda channel that into getting better so...maybe that's a good thing?

Don't let it get you down though. That's a recipe for disaster. Don't end up like one of those instagram profiles that post something bi-yearly.

[Anonymous No.4342481]

>>4342435
You sound a lot like me.
Which country?

[Anonymous No.4342482]

JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
I'VE BEEN DRAWING BOXES LINES CIRCLES AND ALL THAT SHIT FOR 3 YEARS AND JUST NOW I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE ANYONE PLEASE RECOMMEND ME ONE EXERCISE THAT USES BOXES TO TAKE ME OUT OF THIS PLEASE OH GOD

[Anonymous No.4342487]

>>4342376
I feel you CS bro
>class with relatively easy material, everything sounds good
>get to the assignments
>completely unrelated to the class itself, teacher doesn't even post anything helpful until the day the assignment is actually due
At least I know how to do the coding assignments. The rest is trash though.

[Anonymous No.4342506]

>>4342376
Don't forget about
>every prof has their own convoluted system to dispense material and none of them use dropbox

[Anonymous No.4342522]

>>4342481
Argentina

[Anonymous No.4342527]

>>4342522
Oof. You drew one of the shorter sticks in life, but the future still matters. I know you can do it.

[Anonymous No.4342671]

>>4342527
Thanks, i am going to keep on living just because i want to draw my passion project.

[Anonymous No.4343087]

>>4342399
>>4342422
Just keep pretending

[Anonymous No.4343094]

>tell friend about wanting to go to artschool
>unsure about my portfolio and ideas compared to other applicants
>he asks what I am planning to do
>tell him and show artwork for it
>no response or reaction
Makes me feel like shit. At least some form of feedback would have been better than that.

[Anonymous No.4343123]

>>4342399
0/10

[Anonymous No.4343216]

I've studied the fundies and have become skilled enough to pheasibly draw what I want with acceptable quality but now realize I actually have zero creativity and everytime I draw I have to draw something from a photo or reference or else I just can't think of anything that isn't generic. I'm envious of all the original and stylized artwork I see here where you can see someone's ideas and creativity on the page and when I try to find the same thing it comes up blank.
I have no soul.

[Anonymous No.4343227]

>>4343216
listen to some music you used to like when you were a teen, read a book and write/sketch down associations, remember something really good or really bad that happened to you and channel those emotions into a portrait
other than that, try to force yourself not to think narratively and not worry about the technical side of art for a bit. have a clear concept of what you want to draw before you allow yourself to put pen to paper (i.e. "I want to draw an angry mushroom chasing a darksouls character" or whatever) draw it and move on to the next idea.

[Anonymous No.4343247]

I hate my art, I hate how much I suck. I thought it's gonna get better over time and I'll learn to somewhat like my own creations but No. All I see are my flaws. And sometimes I don't even see what's wrong but I know something is off. I draw every chance I could get and fill the sketchbook I'm holding, but most of the time I get so frustrated with how my drawings look, that I instantly burn them after I flip through it. I've burned 18 sketchbooks this 2019, all filled with studies and sketches. And I don't regret burning them because I know they all suck. I've tried so many times to post consistently on social media but I fail everytime because I know how bad I am. I keep telling myself that it's ok to post my studies, wips and practices but I'm too paranoid and keep thinking 'I already know that something's wrong with it, why would I post something this awful?'. I tried joining discord servers to somewhat aid my social awkwardness, but I have no idea how to properly interact with them that in the end I just stopped posting. I keep bullshitting myself that it's all gonna be ok but I know for a fact that everything is gnawing at me on the inside. I'm still gonna try this year. I haven't drawn much this jan because of irl stuff but this feb I plan on doing my best again.
I'm a pussy, I keep failing and it's my fault, but I'm still gonna try.

[Anonymous No.4343315]

>>4343087
What the fuck

[Anonymous No.4343500]

>>4343247
>I keep failing and it's my fault, but I'm still gonna try.
this is what separates the gmi from the ngmi
godspeed, anon

[Anonymous No.4343519]

>>4343500
But be aware that even if you try harder there's still a chance you're ngmi

[Anonymous No.4343791]

>>4343247
go to DAD

[Anonymous No.4343810]

>>4340233

[Anonymous No.4343814]

>>4343791
please dont you sound like a trainwreck

[Anonymous No.4343817]

>>4343216
I can think of non-generic ideas but I can't stylize anything no matter what. It's really fucking annoying.

[Anonymous No.4344135]

I deleted all the more suggestive pics off my Twitter.

I honestly don't know why I did it. My desires are a waging a war against my experiences doing this stuff for a living. It makes no sense, now as I'm finally getting the comms I always wanted.

Why am I lapsing back into drawing coomershit animations? Just for a sense of control over my life? Just pent up?

[Anonymous No.4344159]

>>4343216
Similar boat, except I still have those ideas. It's just now I'm afraid to draw anything I'm not 100% sure will look good.

[Anonymous No.4344182]

Please give me reasons why life isn't worth living, I can't go on like this anymore

[Anonymous No.4344899]

I'm worthless.

[Anonymous No.4344902]

>>4343500
>>4343791
thanks
>>4343519
ty anon, i'm aware of this, but i feel like I'm gonna regret it if I don't try, so I can't stop.

[Anonymous No.4344906]

>>4344182
>>4344899
I know this is not for everyone, and this is just a suggestion... But have you guys tried getting a pet? My dog helps me calm down a lot. But if you guys know you can't care or love a pet, you shouldn't do this. It would be unfair to the animal

[Anonymous No.4344911]

>>4344906
If I get a pet it's gonna die. I've been out of clean dishes for 2 weeks and never once had the energy to clean em

[Anonymous No.4344930]

Fuck i'm shit.
Stopped mid last year to focus on studies since my lecturers fucked me over. Graduated. Decided to start over today and do a little study. Looked horrendous, by far the worst thing I've ever done. I was just trying to have fun bros but now i severely doubt my abilities, it isn't fair.
pic related was what I was studying

[Anonymous No.4344932]

>>4344930
I can't even tag properly, god I'm useless

[Anonymous No.4345118]

I want to fucking die.

[Anonymous No.4345130]

>>4344911
>>4345118
I'm in the same boat so idk if these words will have any weight for you guys but hang in there anons.

[Anonymous No.4345907]

>leave this site because its turning toxic and depressing
>have more thoughts of suicide ideation when i am not browsing this board

It’s true. I’m here forever.

[Anonymous No.4345927]

>>4345907
>toxic
This word needs to be removed from online vocabulary, the internet is not your personal bubble and safespace.

[Anonymous No.4345949]

>>4345927
Never implied it was. Most of social media IS a safespace though, such as Reddit, Twitter, but I bet when you say safe space, you’re talking about lefty retards, right?

/pol/ is arguably a safe space for the right. You guys just call it a containment board cause it makes them look less like pussies.

[Anonymous No.4345962]

>>4345949
Last (and only) time I checked /pol/ had a rainbow of political ideas: far right, nazis, fascists, lgbtq+w/e, commies. All equally retarded.

[Anonymous No.4345968]

I am actually surprised by the way I've improved over the last three months. My life is going to shit so I fully turned into art as my only haven. I am happy when I draw and actually get to block everything else.
Now my problem with art currently is I cannot draw a character the same twice, but even that doesn't frustrate me, but keeps me focused. I... I feel good.

[Anonymous No.4346001]

>>4343094
What kinda stuff you got in the pofo anon? I got into art school on a (imo) mediocre portfolio, so I might be able to give you straight dope.

Btw one of the key factors, aside from the pofo and grades of course, is the examiners are generally taking in your whole breadth of experience and potential to improve - so it’s not like you have to be an expert going in - it helps, but it’s not the end all.

[Anonymous No.4346046]

Man Ritalin is great for focusing, but I wish it didn’t make me paranoid and bring out my depressive episodes.

>>4345968
That’s god, keep on that - and with practice, that issue will get better, takes a while before you can get comfortable with repetition like that.

[Anonymous No.4346056]

I'd love to talk to some senpais but I could never muster the nerve to hit then up. Be it here or on other sites, I feel like I'd just be a bother or come off creepy

[Anonymous No.4346065]

>>4344930
Honestly felt the same way of my first drawings, still feel like that a lot, though somewhat less these days - it took me like three years of (imo) improper study and two years of actual concrete study to get to that place of confidence though, and that’s daunting, but you shouldn’t give up if you want to do it just because things look bad on day one. Take a break, come back to it tomorrow, study some books, try again, etc.

Also deffo do the Picasso exercise a few times to improv your sight drawing if you feel that’s needed.

[Anonymous No.4346671]

The fact women live life on easy + the fact society intrinsically places more worth on women than men has me so bitter and resentful I don’t want to even want to think about women anymore, let alone draw them. A woman is hurt or sad, the world stops to comfort her. I’ve been depressed my whole life and I’m all alone.

I feel like by placing beautiful women at the center of all my artwork, I am only further reinforcing society’s bias towards favoring women and I’m sick of it. I’m at the point where I’d be happier if I never saw another woman again.

My anger is interfering with my art and I don’t know how to deal with it.

[Anonymous No.4346684]

>>4346671
I feel like people might misinterpret your words as incel shit but your plight is an honest one. Start meditating for 20-30 mins a day. It'll help sort out your feelings and help you let go of any tension you might hold. Also understand that life isn't about looking at other people, thinking and comparing them to yourself. Focus on your art and enjoy the immersion it gives you on a daily basis.

[Anonymous No.4346695]

>>4340316
If you wanna talk sometimes, I can add you on steam or shit. Ofc if you want respond to this post, i will check

[Anonymous No.4346733]

>>4342435
Italy is it?

[Anonymous No.4346980]

>>4346684
>Work hard to produce art by drawing for hours on end
>Nobody gives a shit about it
It hurts.

[Anonymous No.4346985]

>>4346733
No, argentina

[Anonymous No.4346987]

>>4346671
Only pretty girls, ugly girls are treated just like men.

[Anonymous No.4346999]

>>4346980
that is the hard part. as a man, you have to make people give a shit about you. here’s my advice, take it or leave it. if you have a good enough relationship with your family, go to them for guidance. if that’s not an option for you then try to seek professional medical help, if you can afford it. if you can’t afford it, get a good paying job and work hard until you can. if you think you can’t find a job, you can. there’s plenty of undesirable work that will teach you how to learn and get through shit in general. if you’re so fucked up that none of these things are possible, then I don’t know what to tell you. you’d have to be Arthur Fleck or paraplegic for all of those things to be impossible for you. in that case you’d have a lot more to worry about than how you feel about women and drawing. but those things aren’t really what you’re worried about, they’re a symptom of your loneliness. there are multiple circumstances and excuses as to why your life sucks, but you’ve got to start somewhere. pick at least one of the options I listed and you will at least gain a little confidence and ffs please take a break from 4chan every now and then. Godspeed anon.

[Anonymous No.4347004]

>>4346980
>become a tranny
>problem solved

[Anonymous No.4347010]

>>4346980
External validation will only go so far. Your real problem is never feeling satisfied when all it takes is enjoying what's in front if you.Start meditating and you'll slowly start seeing a difference. Self improve only to satisfy yourself. Immerse yourself in your work and take joy in the process.

[Anonymous No.4347016]

>>4347010
>Your real problem is never feeling satisfied
Different anon, I don't feel satisfied with the drawings that turn out well. Meditating doesn't help me.

[Anonymous No.4347027]

>>4347016
>Meditating doesn't help me.
What meditation do you practice? Usually this happens because you're not doing it correctly or you not doing enough.
As for satisfaction, you have to ask yourself, what is your life purpose? Why do you do the things you do? What gives you joy? Real joy and not pleasure since they're two different things.

[Anonymous No.4347043]

My art is so bad that someone should just chop my right hand off so no else gets cursed by my drawings because I’m not good enough for comics yet. XD

I really am trying my best to improve though so don’t worry, self-deprecating is all part of the process. Ahahahaha.

[Anonymous No.4347047]

>draw picture
>obsess over details for like three days
>finally post online after checking everything over
>the millisecond it loads on the browser, notice an enormous mistake that makes the whole picture look stupid as fuck
>can't erase, it's already been seen, no (you)s, the silence is crushing
one day, I will die
but first, I will suffer

[Anonymous No.4347064]

>>4347027
>Why do you do the things you do? What gives you joy?
I wanted to draw art to make people happy the same way it made me happy, but nobody even likes it or notices it.

[Anonymous No.4347071]

>>4347064
Sell out and draw something everybody will flock to. Once you get a following, switch back to what you really want to draw and post that instead.

[Anonymous No.4347081]

it's motherfucking like 33 degrees C in my room right now i cant fucking focus

[Anonymous No.4347082]

>>4347081
>tfw it's like 23 degrees C here but like 15 degrees C outside
How are you so hot when it's so cold here?

[Anonymous No.4347097]

>>4342482
Bridgman's anatomy. His books are in the Sticky, and the entire point is that it constructs human anatomy, features, and even details using boxes. Very good, can 100% recommend.

[Anonymous No.4347115]

>open pinterest
>downward spiral 40 tabs opened

[Anonymous No.4347127]

>>4347047
>>4347047
literally me

[Anonymous No.4347146]

I want to draw lolis but there's no way to safely and consistently monetise it outside of japan

[Anonymous No.4347149]

>>4340233
>Search for references
>End up fapping to said references
>An hour passes just like that
>What the fuck
Just what kind of sorcery is this?

[Anonymous No.4347150]

>>4347047
>tfw thought it was just me
Silence crushed me so hard I stopped drawing ever since. That was two months ago, hopefully when I post again I'll get a (you) this time.

[Anonymous No.4347151]

>>4347149
Stop looking at sexy yurus

[Anonymous No.4347156]

>>4347149
Look at SFW shit instead and stop whacking your mole I guess?

[Anonymous No.4347195]

I get horribly embarrased when I gain a follower, all I can think is "wow you need higher standards". then I get terribly fearful of dissapointing them with the next post, like they'll finally get disillusioned and see what shit I am

Today I got my first comment on something- a shitty pic of a sketch. It made me so happy but I'm also incredibly anxious

Anyone else empathize?

[Anonymous No.4347203]

I wish I was an artist with a circle of friends who were into doing interesting projects, I just want to die because I'm a talentless hack with no friends

[Anonymous No.4347249]

>>4347195
You’ll get over it I promise

[Anonymous No.4347261]

>>4346046
Thanks, mate.


Isn't there any other medication you can take that doesn't bring that side effect?

[Anonymous No.4347272]

WHY IS PERSPECTIVE SO FUCKING HARD?

[Anonymous No.4347283]

>>4347272
It's not talentlet, just feel the forms.

[Anonymous No.4347466]

>>4340233
>Wake Up
>Shower
>Feeling like "Henry Cavil"
>Sit down
>Turn PC and Tablet ON
>Lights up
>Breathes In
>3 Hours passed
>Ended up playing games
FUCK ME
I wish theres a way to keep me focus on something without using ADHD meds.

[Anonymous No.4347488]

>>4347466
Yet another reason to purchase the new Apple iPad Pro 12.9.

[Anonymous No.4347889]

>>4346980
Pick the right audience. Literally draw the flavor of the month or popular anime characters and it doesn’t even have to be amazing for people to notice it.

[Anonymous No.4347897]

>>4347889
Is Instagram or Pixiv good sites to post art?

[Anonymous No.4347898]

>>4347195
Gimme your name so I can follow you, cutie.

[Anonymous No.4347899]

>>4347203
Join one of the /a/ Drawthreads, ask to do an art trade or draw a joint request

[Anonymous No.4347902]

>>4347897
I’ve only used Pixiv so that’s the pattern I noticed there Twitter seems to be popular among anime artists.

[Anonymous No.4347904]

>>4347889
>draw one of Krek's OCs cause I like his design and he seems to systematically retweet fanart
>doesn't even acknowledge it
>delete tweet in shame that I produced something he thought was that much trash
>feel like shit for a week.

[Anonymous No.4348162]

I am so shit at likeness.

[Anonymous No.4348184]

>>4347047
That's why I refuse to look at my works once they are posted. Fuck this shit.

[Anonymous No.4348206]

>>4340769
She sounds like a really great mother, anon.
I live in a shithole country too, but my mother makes everything a little better.
She used to draw when she was younger, she inspired me to start drawing and she compliments my artwork everytime I show her, that makes me happy and makes me feel like a little kid again

[Anonymous No.4348253]

Everytime i draw for my job i sit down and I feel like i suck so bad I just keep starting and stopping starting and stopping
every little mistake and redraw i do I have paranoid thoughts run through my head, making it hard to visualize what i need to draw
"oh no i drew this at the wrong angle, what if they think im stupid, realize i dont know what im doing and ill have to draw it again?"
"oh no i just can't get this right, maybe i cant draw this right now, maybe i have to draw it later, but if I draw it later I'll lose time, If i keep saying ill draw EVERYthing later I wont get it done by the end of the week then i'll really look bad"
its all related to my image
its all related to me feeling like i cant do it, that I just can't do what im doing
but that's silly
that's so silly
ive done it 1000 times before
maybe not this exact angle, maybe not this exact scenario or background
but im a good learner and ive learend 1000 times as well
its silly to hear in my head
i hear it all the time
i hear so many voices
"i can't i can't i can't"
but ive done it so many times why would i guess now, and every week, that I can't?

[Anonymous No.4348263]

>>4342399
lol "Doc" I fucking love that nickname, I would own it
Why the fuck is your army sarg a muslim? that shit aint american, how did that fly?

[Anonymous No.4348266]

>>4348206
>>4340769
damn.. I miss my mom bros. she was so supportive.

[Anonymous No.4348267]

>>4341298
>30
>no privacy in my room to draw

nigga are you living with your parents and sharing a room with a younger sibling?

[Anonymous No.4348402]

/ic/ opened my eyes to the shitty coomer/consumer art I was making but now that I make art from the soul it eats me alive with loneliness because everyone just wants to make and consume more anime or porn

[Anonymous No.4348432]

>>4340769
>is this what getting a manager feels like?
why do you think employees fuck their managers - clearly you and your mom are fucking

[Anonymous No.4348446]

/ic/ dose not help in the slightest.
Never has. I rarely get replies and even if I do its stupid meme shit or one word that can be interpreted in an infinite number of ways. I don't know why I keep coming back.

[Anonymous No.4348464]

>>4348446
Because you're a faggot

[Anonymous No.4348505]

>>4348446
2D > Murdoc

[Anonymous No.4348512]

>>4348446
If you're here for any reason but to collect resources, shitpost, and intentionally get knocked down a peg to keep your ego reigned in then you're an idiot.

[Anonymous No.4348672]

>>4343519
No. Having such a pessimistic attitude will only hold you back. Chances are you’re a massive ngmi since you suggested this in the first place.

[Anonymous No.4348798]

>>4348672
What does having a pessimistic attitude have to do with drawing?

[Anonymous No.4348828]

>>4347272
you mean like, for environments/backgrounds, or for character work?

[Anonymous No.4348841]

i wish /pol/tards would stop making "east vs west" threads
i wish whiners would stop making "bros its too hard im never gonna make it" threads
i wish retards would stop making "stop using reference" and "focus on your style" threads

i wish this board would just fucking draw instead of making shitty threads

[Anonymous No.4348926]

>>4348828
How the fuck do you do this

[Anonymous No.4348974]

>any tutorial: “you make make drawing bodies easier by breaking it down into shapes, like so.”
>me: try to follow along but always draws the wrong shape.
I don’t know what the fuck is wrong with me. I draw an oval when I try a circle and a trapezoid when I try a square. I can never draw the shape I want and I don’t know how to fix it.

[Anonymous No.4348982]

>>4348974
Can you draw a straight line?

[Anonymous No.4348989]

>>4348982
Here’s a few quick attempts. I know I’m /beg/ tier but it’s still frustrating being retarded.

[Anonymous No.4349008]

>>4348841
then what would we talk about

[Anonymous No.4349011]

>>4348267
I do, and I'm almost 30
Not that guy tho

[Anonymous No.4349013]

>>4348841
>i wish this board would just fucking draw instead of making shitty threads
The people that are actually interested in their hobbies don't spend all their time just chatting about them on forums so of course it's going to be 99% uncommitted noobs and 1% non-beginners in just about any community about art/sports/etc.

[Anonymous No.4349036]

>>4349008
>>4349013
the reality of the situation is that unfortunately there are 3-4 threads where artwork is actually posted, and even then frequently ignored or just shitposted

the rest of the threads is just a constant rotating buffet of terrible bait

[Anonymous No.4349512]

all I need is to be able to make 12k usd minimum a year off art and I'd be financially fine but it seems so fucking far away. I hate my fucking job and I hate my fucking life and some days I fucking hate drawing but it's one of the only things on this god forsaken planet that scratches that itch in my soul

[Anonymous No.4349574]

I can't figure out color. I just don't fucking get it. When I try to color from imagination all that comes out is regurgitated dogshit on what I think it should look like. I read books on this and tried experimenting and nothing clicks. It's so frustrating that I can't even mentally picture what something should look like much less put it down. I look back on the garbage I've drawn and constantly scrap it because it doesn't ever look as good as I'd imagine it to be. Art makes me feel like the most impotent, retarded fuckwit to have existed.

[Anonymous No.4349578]

I’m angry as fuck because my lines are utter shit. I never had any particular issues as a child apart from a bloody brain tumor, my hands feel incredibly dumb. I cannot gauge proportions for shit either. I’m about to keep practicing everyday until my shit improves. If I get no results in a year or two, I am really considering art classes or visiting a nearby atelier.

[Anonymous No.4349594]

>>4349574
>>4349578
Yet another of the many many reasons that talent exists and can't come out of practice.

[Anonymous No.4349609]

ic was never good but I feel like it's been especially extra shitty for the past....months, jesus. At least I'm using 4chan less heh

[Anonymous No.4349714]

>>4347261
No clue, though that’d be dope if there was though - I’ll be gucci though, these things come and go.

[Anonymous No.4349727]

>>4349609
I dunno if I’d agree fully - beg and other mainstay threads still feels like they did back in 2016, more or less at least, which is ok-good imo. Not sure what to say about the overall quality of threads outside that, but I’d be lying if I didn’t see what you mean there

[Anonymous No.4349881]

mfw your buddy asks to see your art but the best thing you've drawn in months is fetish porn pinups.

[Anonymous No.4349978]

>keep trying to finish stuff
>can't
Why the fuck?
I just want to finish something but I can't. It's all sketches, studies, and more sketches

[Anonymous No.4350088]

>>4349011
are you looking for someone to yell at you?
you live with a younger sibling and your 30?
explain yourself

[Anonymous No.4350113]

>>4349574
Simply find another artist drawing with appealing colors and color pick those. Look at the color properties and values to learn what works.

[Anonymous No.4350186]

>>4342435
Go to UBA Globoludo

[Anonymous No.4350196]

>>4349881
>tfw people do this and all you can think of is /ic/ laughing at you even though this is a normal person

[Anonymous No.4350206]

why dont i ever get any critique for my artwork on the artwork/critique board

[Anonymous No.4350211]

>Practicing Tits and Vag
>Naked ladies on one of my monitor
>Sister comes in without knocking
>That long silence
>Closes the door
>Got a lengthy explanation during dinner time with my oldpeeps.
I wish my life was like those doujins that I read

[Anonymous No.4350215]

>>4350211
What kind of explanation was it?

[Anonymous No.4350219]

>>4350211
But this is just like one of those doujins you read, your onee-san comes in and see's you watching other naked ladies and now she thinks you're gay and will start wondering if you sniff through her underwear.

[Anonymous No.4350225]

>>4350211
You just failed QTE

[Anonymous No.4350428]

>>4349881
It's good that you drew at all senpai. Keep it up

[Anonymous No.4350432]

>>4349609
>ic

You won't be the only one glad to know that you will be visiting this website less.

[Anonymous No.4350488]

Im gonna fucking murder bbc chan i swear to fucking christ im gonna wring his neck

[Anonymous No.4350505]

>>4350488
lol mikufag and bbcchan is a fight I would pay to see

[Anonymous No.4350536]

>>4350225
kek

[Anonymous No.4350609]

>still can't describe my art style to others
How do I go about learning how to desribe different styles?

[Anonymous No.4350615]

>>4350609
what is it inspired from?

[Anonymous No.4350620]

>>4350615
I guess it's mainly from western animation and colors from Disgaea.

[Anonymous No.4350622]

>>4350488
Why? He's an SJW and a childless faggot in his mid-thirties. It that alone isn't enough, he moved to a 2nd world country where his porn bucks would sustain his, and the first whore he fucked's, existence.

Life has already owned the sad little man. Settle down.

[Anonymous No.4350639]

>>4350615
James Baxter, Disgaea colors, Bruce Timm, Yoh Yoshinari, Carl Barks, Marc Davis. So, mainly western animation.

[Anonymous No.4350664]

>>4350639
Post it I will tell you :^)

[Anonymous No.4351150]

>>4350615
run of the mill moebius sci fi animaymays

[Anonymous No.4351279]

Every line I've ever drawn in my life has been an absurdly misshapen, misplaced abomination, and I have no idea what I'm doing wrong. The problems with my results are obvious, but I don't know what I should actually be doing differently, which makes it very difficult to make any sort of focused effort at improving. I just cannot grasp how to hold and control a pencil for some reason. Every grip feels unnatural and awkward, including the one I've used to write with for my whole life. There's nothing wrong with my hand-eye coordination or manual dexterity, and I can even use a paintbrush just fine; I just inexplicably cannot figure out how to properly draw lines with a pencil. None of my research has turned up any useful information, and none of my experimentation or mindless grinding has gotten me anywhere.

I'm considering trying to learn how to chicken-scratch in the hopes of seeing some sort of improvement. I am completely on board with the idea of sabotaging my long-term growth for short-term results. Any sort of evidence that I'm actually capable of learning how to draw would be pretty welcome at this point. I don't even have any lofty goals; I would be perfectly content if I could reach /beg/-level. I can't even imagine how wondrous it must be to actually be able to draw recognizable objects rather than amorphous blobs.

[Anonymous No.4351368]

>Working for 3 hours on a piece only to accidentally delete

As a /beg/ I just want to end it after this

[Anonymous No.4351371]

>>4351368

[Anonymous No.4351373]

>>4351371
roleplaying autism

[Anonymous No.4351377]

>>4350622
You can bring up all of his real-life failures but it’ll still be exceptionally painful to him that no matter how much better his life may seem, BBC chan can draw better than him. It exceptionally stings because he spends his time crabbing on the board and falls into a great depression when BBC chan has authority and (You)’s over him due to simply having superior art.

[Anonymous No.4351393]

>>4351371
Keep posting shitty animu reaction images while I go back to drawing

[Anonymous No.4351976]

>>4351377
SILENCE, SLAVE
I AM THE GREATEST ARTIST IN THE UNIVERSE

[Anonymous No.4352399]

the stuff I learn sinks in but not fast enough
>enraged cat. jpg bc rangeban

[Anonymous No.4352415]

>>4352399
Can you really say you understand something if you still don’t do it right?

[Anonymous No.4352434]

>>4340769
>tfw no supportive family members instead of forever ignoring me like I never existed failure of a family that now acts as if I owed them emotionally or otherwise
at least I managed to find out where my overcompensating attention whoreing stems from

[Anonymous No.4352436]

>>4352415
i happen to magically do it right the next day or two

[Anonymous No.4352772]

>>4340233
everytime i try one of those beginner courses and then stop because it become hard so fast and jump to another course for a year and its so frustrating

[Anonymous No.4352816]

>learning
>have instructor
>very accomplished
>has achieved some pretty big accomplishments like a Guggenheim fellowship, museums, shows
>look at his work, it's crap
>heard him make an offhanded comment about how he probably won't get the next grant he applied for because hes a white male
>all his work is heavy handed Indian and slavery crap
>but isn't an sjw type

so is that all there is to it? seriously his work isn't special. just lay the bleeding heart white guilt shit on thick while making some wine and paint tier work and you're set?

[Anonymous No.4352841]

>>4352816
those aren't big accomplishments, they're rewards for being a good dog

[Anonymous No.4352933]

>>4352772
Don't just watch.
Analyze the lessons.
Actually write down what is it that you don't understand and research the fuck out of it (appart from the lesson itself, you can't possibly avoid that extracurricular research).
Have a notebook for fundies ffs.
Learn to organise all your notes in the most efficient and clearest manner as possible so you can quickly, comfortably and reliably search through them.
The culture of learning is the key to learning anything.

[Anonymous No.4353409]

>>4352933
And how do you organize notes about art?

[Anonymous No.4353464]

I feel like garbage everytime ive made something. I feel like im constantly doing shit wrong, i feel like i havent improved at all, or maybe im just retarded.

[Anonymous No.4353476]

>>4340233
Some people are not mention to follow trends.
>make instawhore acc to try and gain some following and net some commissions
>draw practically only what's trending like fanart and challenges
>whopping 10 likes at most in each drawing
>5 months later, not even 50 followers
>decide to only draw what I want
>sudden influx of followers
>10-20x the likes
>almost 600 followers
>even liked and followed by some big name artists
>this sudden snippet of fame and recognition fires up my anxiety
>instant impostor syndrome
>delete account and go back to mediocrity
I know I am a faggot and never gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.4353480]

>>4351279
Everybody is wired differently meaning that certain things are second nature to them while others have to learned through rigorous practice and patience. The knowledge that these things will take time and that patience will get you where you want seems like a truism at this point but it really does illuminate alot of important things for us. I think the best thing for you to do is to take a deep breath and take a realistic assessment of your goals. I've seen many beginners that criticize themselves viciously however that only helps gnaw away at their already low level of self esteem. You must understand why you even pursued this area of the creative arts and try your best to relax. If possible, get your hands on reading material that documents the experience of great men and use that as a compass towards your own self-improvement. I personally tend to read as much as I can on the noted directors and in some way their failures bring much comfort to me since I know they were able to push through them.

>I'm considering trying to learn how to chicken-scratch in the hopes of seeing some sort of improvement. I am completely on board with the idea of sabotaging my long-term growth for short-term results.

Haha, oh no no no. Do that and you'll regret it for the rest of your life. You're in a business that is built on time and patience. You must understand that certain things will not come to you easily, it is alright to despair but don't let it your influence or hamper you. Your failures define your successes and if you're able to commit yourself to this line of work then you'll come out as a well rounded individual. Good luck

[Anonymous No.4353485]

>>4341158
Great advice right here. It's like what Jake Parker says "finished, not perfect".
Just fucking do it to keep yourself working.

>>4342240
That's self defeating mentality.
You need a project to start drawing.
You need to draw to get better.
You need to get better to "be ready".
And like the other anon said, the project could be something more educational, like "grinding" the basics.

[Anonymous No.4353486]

>>4350088
Not him but it's the goddamn comfort zone.
I managed to get out of my parents house at 28, and I shared my room with 2 (two) older brothers, the oldest is 41.

[Anonymous No.4353494]

>>4342268
The thing is, you need to alternate.
Just studying will kill your drive.
If you draw 2 hours a day, use at least half an hour to do something you find fun, but do it trying to apply what you studied until then.

[Anonymous No.4353507]

>>4345927
You need to understand that toxic is a thing and not what the twitter/tumblrtards are talking about.
It has nothing to do with safe space.

[Anonymous No.4353516]

>>4353409
By subjects. Separate them by fundies and go about them as needed.

[Anonymous No.4353542]

>>4351377
lick his asshole some more, he's still got shit on it.

[Anonymous No.4353552]

>>4340316
It's completely understandable. Art is such a personal thing, and anything you create will feel very personal for you, so even with thick skin, getting told that something you created from nothing and spent lots of time on looks bad is always gonna hurt. You NEED that pain, though. It helps you learn to look at your own art through an objective lens, which is honestly one of the hardest hurdles to overcome. Don't get discouraged, Anon. Also, take most things from /ic/ with a grain of salt.

[Anonymous No.4353554]

>>4340752
I know some family members follow me online, but I'm also aware that they haven neither the interest nor the experience with the app to give a shit about checking. Every time I post some nsfw stuff, it's like Schrodinger's cat. I don't know if they've seen it, and the only way to know will be to ask, but if they haven't, that's gonna get them curious.

[Anonymous No.4353572]

>>4347195
Same here. When I get a comment, it makes me feel like a kid on Christmas. Even if it's just mostly unhelpful critique, at least I know someone has seen what I've done.

[Anonymous No.4353579]

>>4348974
Find what shapes you're most comfortable with using for construction. As long as you end up constructing something in a way that helps you, it works. Everyone has a different method of construction.

[Anonymous No.4353604]

>"Hey do you do commissions?"
>"Yes."
>"Aight. Then can you draw **********"
>"Sure. That will be $60"
>"60?! No way! I can get the same stuff at the price of 20 or 30$!"
>"......"
What do?

[Anonymous No.4353689]

>>4353604
tell him to suck his dad dick

[Anonymous No.4353694]

>>4353604
tell him to get that stuff for 20-30$ and stop wasting your time

[Anonymous No.4353860]

>>4353604
tell him to fuck off

[Anonymous No.4353941]

I'm comfortable with posting on 4chan, but I get massive anxiety when thinking about posting with a name. How do I get over this and just post art online ?

[Anonymous No.4353949]

>>4353941
By name, I mean on social media.

[Anonymous No.4353952]

>>4353941
>How do I get over this and just post art online ?
Find yourself a name and just post art online

[Anonymous No.4353967]

>>4353952
What if no one gives a shit about it?

[Anonymous No.4353973]

>>4353967
why would they give a shit and why would you even care ?

[Anonymous No.4354020]

>>4353973
Because I want someone to actually like the work I do.

[Anonymous No.4354022]

>>4353967
Try again then!
If you're drawing something obscure or an OC, then chances are people will not notice you. If you want to draw attention to your drawings, first, you gotta draw a popular character, something trendy,... And make use of hashtags.

[Anonymous No.4354045]

>>4354022
I don't feel good enough to post fanart though. I'm comfortable drawing my own projects and OCs

[Anonymous No.4354173]

>>4340233
damn why is this shit so hard ?