/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4333956]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

previous >>4329080

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj
RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

[Anonymous No.4333961]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxGRhd_iWuE

[Anonymous No.4333998]

>>4333961
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYzMYcUty6s

[Anonymous No.4334049]

>>4333956
reposting from last thread, i need bibliography that makes emphasis on clothing , ripples, creases etc.
Also, feedback very much appreciated

[Anonymous No.4334053]

How can I make the light effects more authentic?

[Anonymous No.4334054]

>>4334049
If that's from imagination and it represents the average quality of your work then I think you can leave /beg/.

[Anonymous No.4334080]

>>4334053
Contrast

[Anonymous No.4334086]

>>4334054
thanls, well yes, it's all that you said it was.
I decided to post here bc i picked up this board along with loomis about 3 weeks ago actually this piece was the first time i used the loomis method for constructing the body, don't get me wrong i have prevoius experience but all self taught and i found that it's more probable to get useful feedback here

[Anonymous No.4334089]

>>4333956
How do you think the standard to what is deemed good and bad has developed? Looking at paintings in the past there is often symbol-drawing and funky perspective but maybe im just looking too far back?

[Anonymous No.4334094]

>>4333956
I like 80s anime but I don't like ridiculously big eyes and small pointy chins like sailor moon. I actually was referencing Kate Winslet, Jennifer connelly Uma Thurman and a few other actress when I drew that. Could you recommend any animes that I could reference. Hopefully you can understand what I was going for. I have a few in mind but I would like to see if you can come up with some others.

[Anonymous No.4334096]

Feels uncanny for some reason.
Critique pls

[Anonymous No.4334098]

>>4334094
>I like 80s anime but I don't like ridiculously big eyes and small pointy chins like sailor moon
you don't like 80s anime then

[Anonymous No.4334102]

Repost from last thread

Took 4 hours on this excercise when it was only supposed to take one. How do I go fast?

[Anonymous No.4334103]

>>4334096
Structure. The face isn't just eyes and a nose stuck onto a flat plane, a face is a 3D object.

[Anonymous No.4334106]

>>4334102
Speed comes with practice. Don't focus on speed.

[Anonymous No.4334107]

>>4334102
Still impressive.

[Anonymous No.4334111]

>>4334106
hmm alright

One issue I had is that I didn't have a good way to measure the distance between things so one arm isn't as wide as it should be and I'm sure the height isn't proper either

Any tips on that?

[Anonymous No.4334129]

>>4334094
>80's anime that isn't Sailor Moon
Fist of the North Star
Legend of the Galactic Heroes
Akira

[Anonymous No.4334132]

>>4334111
>distance between things
do you mean as in the z axis?
at that level that difference is invisible unless the camera is really closer to one arm than the other. Looks good to me maybe the head a little bit small and off center but impercetible without taking into account the original

[Anonymous No.4334140]

>>4334132
hmm not quite that

I mean like I didn't use a ruler or anything so I had to wing the length of the lines and then I kinda used previous lines as a reference for the new line's origin

[Anonymous No.4334144]

>>4332188
When I was halfway through this one I realised my torso wasn’t bent back far enough, and my head feels a little small. I’d appreciate any feedback though

[Anonymous No.4334146]

>>4334103
Yeah most of the values I guess are too light, but i guess the camera doesn't do it much justice either

[Anonymous No.4334148]

>>4334144
ref

[Anonymous No.4334151]

>>4334107
This cheers me up

Thanks.

[Anonymous No.4334152]

>>4334129
Legend is one of the ones on my list. You're probably on the right track. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.4334216]

>Barely drawn at all the last couple of days
It makes me question if I find drawing fun and interesting when I seem to be so unwilling to do it at times.

[Anonymous No.4334231]

Been having a go at landscapes lately, what do you think of my forest?

[Anonymous No.4334237]

>>4334231
Forgot to resize

[Anonymous No.4334243]

>>4334216
it's not a job, watch a movie, play a videogame, go outside, music etc, something will catch your senses and you can convey that feeling into an image or will catch your eye and you can use it as a reference.
Thats a long way of saying 'seek inspiration' but it's true, i also don't draw every day but i allways have at least 2 ideas constantly in my head, i already know what i will be drawing the next time, for me, nothing inspires me more than art from other people

[Anonymous No.4334247]

>>4334096
idk what your reference looked like but try to use reference images with dramatic lighting, bold light and dark, it will be easier to see the forms with bigger difference in value

[Anonymous No.4334251]

>>4333998
>>4333961
Thank you inspiro anon, just know that your inspiration is not in vain.

[Anonymous No.4334253]

>>4334144
I think I need more practice putting in my torso masses. not sure if I’m just having a bad day or if I’m just choosing more difficult poses

[Anonymous No.4334257]

>>4334253

[Anonymous No.4334260]

Anyone have tipps and tricks on working with Aquarell and landscapes?

[Anonymous No.4334264]

>>4334253
Construct the rib cage like you do the head, except make it longer, so it's a 3D ellipsoid with a cross showing the direction and the sides shaved off.

[Anonymous No.4334283]

Complete /beg/ here. I've read the sticky, but I'm not sure about something. Does learning to draw what I see come before anything else? Recently I've just been doing a lot of still life, but unless the subject is something really simple like an apple, I tend to get lots of angles and proportions wrong, make lines too short/long or two near to/far from each other, not know how to make shading look good, etc. I don't know if I am supposed to be able to do this more accurately before trying to move on to resources that teach stuff like perspective and construction.

[Anonymous No.4334322]

>>4334264
Thanks. I’m struggling atm because I’m not sure if I should be constructing inside boxes in perspective or if I should be using two ellipses and constructing the masses from there.

[Anonymous No.4334325]

Whenever I colour something there are always these white 'holes' that I just seem to be unable to colour. What do I do about that? Are they just imperfections in the paper?

[Anonymous No.4334331]

>>4334283
Read Keys to Drawing, that book is all about learning to draw from sight.

[Anonymous No.4334339]

Whenever I colour something there are always these white 'holes' that I just seem to be unable to colour. What do I do about that? Are they just imperfections in the paper?
Also tips on colouring with pencils?
I sometimes draw sketches that I really like! But when I colour them, they're ruined.

[Anonymous No.4334346]

whats the average age of the people here?

[Anonymous No.4334350]

>>4334346
I'm 26

[Anonymous No.4334378]

>>4334331

Should I do that before I start learning stuff like perspective/construction etc.?

[Anonymous No.4334394]

>>4334346
22, been drawing for six months

[Anonymous No.4334397]

>>4334339
Use a flat surface under ur paper,sketchinpaper,good pencils,and try layers

[Anonymous No.4334398]

>>4334394
Post your work

[Anonymous No.4334405]

>>4334346
I’m 19 and been sorts always drawing since i wasa child but it doesn’t show really

[Anonymous No.4334410]

[Anonymous No.4334435]

[Anonymous No.4334480]

>>4334398
I have, I’ve been posting the past week or so. I’m this guy
>>4334144
>>4334253

[Anonymous No.4334484]

>>4334410
I like this a lot

[Anonymous No.4334495]

>>4334435
I like the way you broke down the braids

Anyways, I'm sure you know how much longer you made her breasts. Oh and you tried to make the head be straight rather than tilted (noticeable with the eyes

[Anonymous No.4334501]

>>4334495
When I have a better understanding on anatomy I might come back to this, i started to have fun halfway through and decided to go with it.

[Anonymous No.4334510]

Do I have talent? I wanna draw a manga or novel, can I make it? I never drawn anything before, pic related is my first try

[Anonymous No.4334523]

>>4334510
the thing that occurs when the discipline becomes a second nature for the person performing it after several years of hard work is what most people refer to as talent or as a thing that you had your whole life, so no, you don't have it, yet.
I give it a nice/10

[Anonymous No.4334534]

Any suggestions for tutorials to upgrade my shading from shit tier?

[Anonymous No.4334544]

I figured out how the jaw connects to the ear (diamond shape)

[Anonymous No.4334546]

>>4334346
17 and 11 months XDDDD

[Anonymous No.4334547]

>>4334544
Damn you're pretty good, much better than I

[Anonymous No.4334554]

>>4334547
thx anon.

[Anonymous No.4334560]

>>4334484
Thanks anon, I like you a lot too

[Anonymous No.4334563]

>>4334523
I must draw everyday if I want to get better? Because I don't think I could manage that, maybe 3 or 4 times a week, would that be enough?

[Anonymous No.4334570]

Practice I did earlier today

[Anonymous No.4334575]

This is my first attempt to draw, pls halp

[Anonymous No.4334582]

>>4334575
Start from the basics, your drawings are all trash right now

[Anonymous No.4334586]

>>4334563
if you draw 3-4 times a week you are already better than 90% of this board

[Anonymous No.4334594]

>>4334563
even on those days that you think you can't draw, try to draw, even if just 15 minutes

[Anonymous No.4334596]

>>4334594
draw while you poop

[Anonymous No.4334597]

>>4334523
I don't understand why people delude themselves into thinking talent doesn't exist. Every single human on earth is built slightly different from one another. This has an effect on anything from intelligence, physical capabilities, emotions, and so on. Some people are born with a photographic memory, some are born with an ability to see music, some have a body that develop better suited muscles for specific sports, and so on. The fact that people think that this somehow has absolutely no bearing on skills like drawing is so beyond stupid it's amazing. I'm not saying talented people are masters of art the second they exit the womb. They still require practice like everyone else. The difference lies in that they will be capable of learning something that takes you a hundred hours in a much shorter time, as well as being able to improve beyond the limits of an average person. While hard work might beat talent, it just can't measure up to someone who's both talented and works hard. However, if you enjoy art, not being the best shouldn't stop you from trying your best, because at that point, you'll be the lowest of the low, talented or not.

[Anonymous No.4334610]

>>4334582
Where do I learn the basics?

[Anonymous No.4334622]

>>4334563
If you want to seriously pursue art as a career, then you need to be willing to draw every day, the same way you'd need to be willing to wade in shit every day if you wanted to be a sewer worker. That's gonna be your job, and you're gonna have to do it, whether or not you happen to feel like it on any particular day.
If you just want to draw as a hobby, you can do whatever you want. You still need practice to get better, of course, but you won't be under a time limit.

>>4334597
>They still require practice like everyone else.
That's why. It's not that talent doesn't exist, it just doesn't matter. You can compensate for lack of talent with enough hard work, but if you're unwilling to put in the work, no amount of talent will help.

[Anonymous No.4334623]

>>4334575
>rotate image so its facing the right way up
>rescale to 50% original size
Instant improvement with this one weird trick.
Cute birds though.

[Anonymous No.4334625]

>>4334622
How many hours a day then? Is 1h enough?

[Anonymous No.4334637]

>>4334625
This is the biggest NGMI sign.
You don't ask how many hours you should draw every day.
You ask how many hours you shouldn't draw every day.

[Anonymous No.4334639]

>>4334625
I'm not that guy, but here's a way to answer your own question. Do you think your favorite mangaka draws for more than 1 hour a day? If the answer to this is yes, then you should already know the answer.

[Anonymous No.4334640]

>>4334534
1. stop being afraid of hard edges
2. go darker
3. be a more confident with where you put your shadows, it doesn't have to be 100% realistic, it just has to accentuate the form.

[Anonymous No.4334654]

>>4334637
>>4334639
You people talk as if we don't have jobs, college, girlfriend, family, I think I could manage at most 2h per day and 4h or more on the weekends, id that's not enough then I won't even bother trying to get better

[Anonymous No.4334655]

>>4334654
That sounds like a good minimum to aim for.

[Anonymous No.4334656]

>>4334510
>Do I have talent?
No.

[Anonymous No.4334657]

>>4334654
>jobs, college, girlfriend, family
Well there's your problem, you were never gonna make it from the start.
Come and leave humanity behind with the rest of us and you just might make it after all.

[Anonymous No.4334658]

>>4334656
Shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.4334661]

>>4334657
Fucking artist monk life, hell yeah

[Anonymous No.4334668]

>>4334510
def not, you suck, its gonna be a long road ahead so buckle up anon.

[Anonymous No.4334672]

>>4334656
>>4334668
Samefagging is ugly, do you take pleasure on the sadness of others? That's why you have to create lies to feel better about your sad little life? Fucking vermin, I not taking your troll advices

[Anonymous No.4334674]

>>4334625
Enough for what?
Again, if you want to seriously pursue art as a career, you need to put in WORK hours. Think 40 hours a week minimum.
>>4334654
If you already have a job and just want to draw for fun, you can still do whatever you want. With one hour every day spent drawing, you're gonna wipe the floor with all the people who spend that hour on video games instead.

[Anonymous No.4334677]

Whats a good drawing tablet

[Anonymous No.4334678]

>>4334674
>Think 40 hours a week minimum.
Does anyone draws 6h a day everyfuckingday? Then It's not for me, holy shit... I wanna do it as a hobby, but If I get good enough I wanna be a pro, but I can't afford to practice 6h a day everyday that's crazy

[Anonymous No.4334679]

>>4334672
You realize where you are right?, stop thinking you're special and take the advice and start practicing, if you want a fucking hugbox thread then go to plebbit faggot.

[Anonymous No.4334685]

>>4334678
You have to build it up.
If you're just starting, try practicing an hour a day and slowly work your way up to 1 and a half hours a day and then 2 and than 2 and a half and then....

[Anonymous No.4334686]

>>4334679
I know I'm good, I never practiced it before and I can still manage to draw decently enough, and I can guarantee thst it's better than 90% of the population would be able to do. It's definitely not pro level, but for someone who never prcticed before it is excellent, but those idiots are saying it sucks like it's trash or something, if I can practice I can be a high level artist.

[Anonymous No.4334687]

>>4334686
Alright m8

[Anonymous No.4334688]

>>4334686
I do have some talent, almost all the people I know are much worse than me.

[Anonymous No.4334694]

>>4334686
This sounds like something one of those people that post their before and after pictures of their made up anime characters and no progress was made after x years would say.

[Anonymous No.4334701]

>>4334678
I think drawing for x hours is totally different then studying for X hours. It's far more taxing to study something that you just don't properly understand as opposed to getting in a rhythm and performing actions that you're comfortable with.

[Anonymous No.4334709]

>>4333956
Hey bros! Just wanted to check in and tell you


YOURE ALL GONNA MAKE IT!

Yeeeah!

[Anonymous No.4334718]

>>4334709

[Anonymous No.4334719]

what should i be doing to make drawings look more appealing? i don't often like the end result very much

[Anonymous No.4334721]

>>4334253

you made the penis smaller

[Anonymous No.4334722]

>>4334719
Maybe learn how to draw

[Anonymous No.4334723]

>>4334575
Just draw more. If it means anything, this doesnt look lime the first time you've picked up a pencil. Just keep drawing, taking note of proportions and value.

[Anonymous No.4334724]

>>4334709

[Anonymous No.4334726]

>>4334721
Might be a kink

[Anonymous No.4334728]

I know I'm talented, my mother said so!

[Anonymous No.4334730]

>>4334678
You're the one who said you wanted to make manga and/or novels. The reality is that if you want to be a pro, you need to put in pro hours. There's nothing wrong with having drawing as a hobby and doing it once in a while, but expecting one hour every other day to turn into the quality needed for a full-time art career is a pipe dream.

>>4334686
You're pretty fucking arrogant, dude. If this is your very first time drawing ever, it's actually decent. But thinking you're hot shit because you can draw something someone with a days worth of practice could draw, is laughable. You really need to check your attitude or fuck off.

[Anonymous No.4334738]

>>4334730
Thanks, I understand your points, you made a very good, coherent and above all respectful post, I was just pissed at those other guys saying that I suck when clearly do not, but I understand your post and I see I need to put many hours if I want to make it, I'll try what I can. What sketchbook you use?

[Anonymous No.4334741]

>>4334688
Faulty logic. Every single person I know is a worse cook than me. Does that mean I am a talented cook? No, it just means that they all suck ass, and I suck slightly less.

[Anonymous No.4334749]

>>4334741
Terrible example, drawing is a form of art, cooking is not art, it's just cooking, you're just following a recipee. Also, that's the very definition of talent, being slightly better than others, that means that if I put x hours of effort into drawing and another talentless person also puts x hours into it, mine will be better because I have talent.

[Anonymous No.4334755]

>>4333956
Anyone got any tips for drawing small ellipses? Should I just keep practicing until my arm gets used to it?

[Anonymous No.4334760]

>>4334755
French rule

[Anonymous No.4334764]

>>4334749
>cooking is not art, it's just cooking, you're just following a recipee.
Drawing isn't art. It's just drawing lines of varying lengths and curvatures.
> if I put x hours of effort into drawing and another talentless person also puts x hours into it, mine will be better because I have talent.
In your case, I doubt it. Your inflated ego would get in the way of any real progress. Also, practice isn't just practice. I imagine someone without any form of talent would exceed you quickly, because your perceived """"talent""""" clearly gives you a sense of unwarranted self-worth that would hinder your practice.

[Anonymous No.4334796]

>>4334764
>Drawing isn't art. It's just drawing lines of varying lengths and curvatures.
C'mon son... What's the recipee of drawing?
>In your case, I doubt it. Your inflated ego would get in the way of any real progress. Also, practice isn't just practice. I imagine someone without any form of talent would exceed you quickly, because your perceived """"talent""""" clearly gives you a sense of unwarranted self-worth that would hinder your practice.
Lol, now you're just jealous, I can feel your anger from your post, honestly I'm kind sad for you, but being talentless doesn't mean you won't make it bro, just put enough effort.

[Anonymous No.4334805]

>>4334721
honestly I just have no idea how to draw it so I fudged it. thank you anon

[Anonymous No.4334812]

>>4334049
This is interesting. If your lines were nicer and this had colours, I could see you becoming very popular.

>>4334096
It won’t feel right, but try constructing the face with Loomis before copying the placement of eyes and such.

Also, if possible, flip your drawing.

>>4334231
This looks very flat. Watch bob ross and look at other paintings to learn atmosphere. Things that are farther should have less detail than things in the middle of a scene.

>>4334435
This ones face made me lol.

[Anonymous No.4334820]

>>4334749
cooking is an artform my friend

[Anonymous No.4334825]

[Anonymous No.4334830]

>>4334825
What’s with all the scribbles and chicken scratch? Quit rushing and take the time to understand what you’re looking at carefully.

[Anonymous No.4334837]

>>4334825
the top of the staff looks like bugs bunny

[Anonymous No.4334838]

>>4334837
Holy kek ur right

[Anonymous No.4334894]

[Anonymous No.4334897]

Is anyone able to tell me if the material covered in Figure Drawing for Artists is the same as Huston’s beginner figure drawing class on New Masters Academy?

[Anonymous No.4334900]

>>4334897
Yes

[Anonymous No.4334906]

>>4334760
Googling that only shows up history, could you please tell me what the french rule is?

[Anonymous No.4334908]

>>4334760
>>4334906

nvm, I see now that you mean french ruler. thnks

[Anonymous No.4334923]

>>4334346
I'm 2020-years-old

[Anonymous No.4334925]

I just have this feeling I can do better than this

[Anonymous No.4334928]

>>4334925
Yeah, many people do, it's called Dunning-Krueger Effect.

[Anonymous No.4334960]

>>4334928

thinking you can do better is not the same as thinking you're better.

[Anonymous No.4334963]

>>4334960
Bro, sit down, be humble, you're not better than anyone, in fact you're pretty bad

[Anonymous No.4334981]

>>4333961
Thanks anon, I needed to hear this today

[Anonymous No.4334990]

I fucked up (her) left side of chest beyond repair because I'm a retard and always start inking too early so now I have no motivation to finish. I also need to work on my line quality, I know.

I mainly just stick to fundamental exercises but get bored so try to do my own thing every now and again, even if I don't have the skill to actually create good work yet. Any advice other than fundementals/loomis cause I am already doing those.

[Anonymous No.4334991]

>>4334925
You can, keep working at it, put the time in and you will get results.

[Anonymous No.4335046]

>>4334990

[Anonymous No.4335052]

>>4334990
Bruh

[Anonymous No.4335053]

>>4334990
yikes

[Anonymous No.4335062]

I am almost 30 and cant even draw a box but I am proud of this arm and hand

[Anonymous No.4335064]

>>4334990
100% soul

[Anonymous No.4335067]

>>4335062
Mate work on your line confidence, start drawing with your elbow and shoulder and use the wrist for smaller curves/lines and details.

[Anonymous No.4335069]

I am almost 30 and can barely draw a box but I am proud of this hand/arm. had to delete and repost because it was so FUCKING big

[Anonymous No.4335072]

Anyone here draw monsters? I’m working on them alongside humans and would love critique on this sketch of mine

[Anonymous No.4335077]

>>4334677
Used Wacom intuos

[Anonymous No.4335079]

>>4335077

[Anonymous No.4335081]

>>4335077
Im looking to do minimalist animations
Something like cyanide and happiness
Probably even simpler (its for a videogame)
Same answer?

[Anonymous No.4335103]

>>4335046
>>4335052
>>4335053
>>4335064
Thanks for the feedback anon :)

[Anonymous No.4335106]

Did I get the eye placement right? It feels like when I follow the loomis browline the eyes don't fit the face properly. Maybe I got the loomis head wrong from the get go?
Advice?

[Anonymous No.4335107]

>>4334990
draw 3D forms not outlines

[Anonymous No.4335135]

[Anonymous No.4335153]

[Anonymous No.4335193]

beg pixels

[Anonymous No.4335205]

>>4334640
Thanks Anon. Good advice. It's coming along.

[Anonymous No.4335207]

Haven't posted in a few weeks, but I've continued to work on art.
I've been doing a lot of watercolor stuff and trying to get a better understanding of how paint works.
This is something I finished earlier this month using everything I learned so far.
I'm getting the grasp on some concepts, but I want criticism to help guide my process.

[Anonymous No.4335208]

>>4335207
This is the reference

[Anonymous No.4335210]

>>4335208
Illastrat face reveal

[Anonymous No.4335213]

>>4335210
What does that mean?

[Anonymous No.4335246]

testing my new sketchbook. not like ill ever use it again or anything

[Anonymous No.4335451]

Currently grinding lighting and shadow. Have hit up Sycra's series and the other resources in the sticky but would appreciate recommendations for more. You guys have any videos/tutorials that really helped you out with shading?

[Anonymous No.4335547]

>>4334990

[Anonymous No.4335601]

>>4333956
Anon from last thread, I tried to draw a person holding a bat but it didn't end up well
(I'll try again later with a new canvas and study KTD a bit more) recommend any anatomy books?
Loomis and Keys to drawing are great but It's nice to have a alternative.

[Anonymous No.4335606]

>>4335601
Google image search "baseball batter".

[Anonymous No.4335611]

>>4335606
This was my reference, I tried to continue using a head I drawed previously but that was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.4335621]

Anyone have some decent books/videos for drawing still lifes of nature? I enjoy taking daily walks, and thought I might as well get some drawing done as well.

[Anonymous No.4335630]

>>4335601
Detailed knowledge of anatomy won't really help you at this stage. Right now you just need to draw a lot and try to make your drawing look like the reference. It doesn't really matter what you're drawing, as long as your pencil is moving.

[Anonymous No.4335632]

>>4335630
That sounds like a good idea, Guess I'll just draw using basic fundamentals and hit the books in a couple of weeks from now.

[Anonymous No.4335634]

>>4335630
you talking like a real nmgmi

[Anonymous No.4335638]

>>4335634
Hear it from Mr. Anatomy himself at 2:50:

https://youtu.be/Thh4JXnVtxM

>The biggest mistake I see people making is that they start anatomy too early

[Anonymous No.4335648]

>>4335601
Draw with your arm and now do 20 more of these.

[Anonymous No.4335649]

>>4335638
>porko
at first i was joking but now im truly sure you are a NGMI unironically

[Anonymous No.4335651]

>>4335648
I mostly draw with my elbow but I will try to focus more on arms.

[Anonymous No.4335664]

>>4335634
>>4335649
pyw

[Anonymous No.4335711]

>>4335106
With loomis the line separating the first third is the brow line, not the eye line

[Anonymous No.4335714]

Here’s my new protagonist, Jimbo Cool-Man.

[Anonymous No.4335729]

>>4335664
Here

[Anonymous No.4335732]

I’m confused about figure drawing. After drawing the quick gesture, do I redraw it on a fresh sheet of paper?

[Anonymous No.4335737]

>>4335729
funny, original and unpredictable


well done

[Anonymous No.4335770]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.4335771]

Is this how I’m supposed to be constructing figures?

[Anonymous No.4335773]

>>4335737
It hasn't been used in so long that it was funny again desu

[Anonymous No.4335794]

>>4335771
Basically.
You don't have to wrap a straight cylinder in that many lines.

[Anonymous No.4335806]

>>4335732
When I have a gesture I like, do I redraw it from scratch or refine it?

[Anonymous No.4335807]

>>4335806
Draw over top of it

[Anonymous No.4335808]

>>4335806
Redraw, seems like good practice.

[Anonymous No.4335813]

Anyone have a suggestion for a decentt website/app/whatever where I can save my reference, and have them shared between devices?

[Anonymous No.4335818]

>>4334146
Too light or not, you only focused on giving any sort of structure to the eyes, nose tip and mouth. The whole nose has a 3D structure, the cheeks and so on do too.

[Anonymous No.4335831]

>>4335807
>>4335808
Every tutorial on figure drawing treats each step as separate drawings, that the gesture and blocking in for example are two different drawings. Is that correct?

[Anonymous No.4335842]

>>4333956
How would I know if I belong here are not? Because last time I posted something, they said I'm not at beginner level but I feel like still am.

[Anonymous No.4335848]

>>4335842
pyw
For me leaving /beg/ means you've switched the balance of your effort to spend more time creating than learning.

[Anonymous No.4335863]

>>4335848
It's because I wanna follow the /ic/ sticky correctly.

[Anonymous No.4335890]

>>4335794
Really? I never finish any figure drawings because it always feels wrong and I delete it.

[Anonymous No.4335988]

>>4334963

you sound like a toddler. I'm saying being confident that you can do better is not d.k its when that confidence turns into arrogance. its when you believe that you're better than what you really are that is d.k.

your definition of d.k is inaccurate.

bro.

[Anonymous No.4336045]

dunno how I feel about this one

[Anonymous No.4336059]

>>4334812
> This looks very flat. Watch bob ross and look at other paintings to learn atmosphere. Things that are farther should have less detail than things in the middle of a scene.

Maybe I wasn't going for realism?

[Anonymous No.4336072]

>>4336045
her left arm cant bend like that

[Anonymous No.4336113]

>>4334102
>4 hours
Stop shitposting and refreshing the catalog while you're drawing you ADHD zoomie

[Anonymous No.4336117]

>>4336059
A picture without an illusion of depth will look flat no matter the style someone is going for. Not having depth in your pictures because of """style""" is just stupid, especially when your subject is a forest. I'm not even the guy you responded to, it's just that people need to stop hiding behind style when they get told there's something wrong with their work.

[Anonymous No.4336119]

>>4334102
way better than mine (I ran out of paper at the bottom, head & nose is way too big, etc.) mind you I did mine in 30-40 min and probably rushed it a bit.

I find you actually seem to have made it look a bit less abstract though, the face seems to be more expressive than the original.

>>4334231
I like it, you definitely nailed the shading and colors imo. only problem is the background needs a bit of work maybe, it seems a bit 2 dimensional.

[Anonymous No.4336125]

Does anyone have any advice on trying to emulate the style of these old 60s concept car sketches. So this appears to be done in colored pencil? (Maybe chalk?) I think I have a method for making the surface look reflective but anything I do in colored pencils comes out looking like crayons. The details in this picture are sharp and the pigment covers well.

[Anonymous No.4336131]

>>4336125
This one appears to use some kind of markers, but ill be damned if I can get that kind of blending using markers.

[Anonymous No.4336135]

>>4335770

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBLdQ1a4-JI

[Anonymous No.4336136]

>>4335072
looks gnarly as fuck, I like it.


I like to draw monsters aswell but I'm not so great.

[Anonymous No.4336139]

Saw this displayed at my local Denny's. How do I reach this level?

[Anonymous No.4336140]

>>4336125
>>4336131

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSB1XFL8jNo

[Anonymous No.4336142]

>>4336117
I'm not saying he's wrong, I'm not hiding behind style, So I guess I need to go darker where the shadows are for more contrast, what else?

[Anonymous No.4336144]

how do you draw fur/hair /beg?

[Anonymous No.4336147]

>>4336139
Draw like a 12 year old

[Anonymous No.4336151]

>>4336139
I like it.

[Anonymous No.4336171]

>>4336119
I like yours, especially for just 40 minutes, compared to my 4 hours.

On the face, it was completely by accident. I had the paper upside down all the way through.

I get caught up in line lengths. Do you have anything on that which could help?

[Anonymous No.4336197]

>>4334086
>3 weeks
These are the posts that make me sad.

[Anonymous No.4336203]

>>4334144
From your ref the torso is bent back enough but your abdomen and pelvis are boring, both going against that bend. Bridgette has a weird pelvis area.

[Anonymous No.4336220]

>>4336139
read loomis repeatedly and draw for at least 5 hours daily for 5 years

[Anonymous No.4336262]

>>4336139
This piece is interesting, since you can see the artist's technique. If you look carefully, you'll notice that the bog is actually constructed of irregular ovals and straight lines - one oval for the torso, one for the head, one for each paw, and two lines for each leg. Even the bog's floppy ear is just another irregular oval, only cut off at the head's outline.
The rendering was most likely done using the color inside the lines method, where each continuous region defined by the outlines is colored with a marker.

[Anonymous No.4336316]

>>4333956
head is still a bit awkward

[Anonymous No.4336320]

>>4334346
23. I think the average is 21-24

[Anonymous No.4336324]

Currently using the book "Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain" and starting to learn art, but I did this for fun and line practice.

Did >>4334102 prior to this

Made me realize I need a drawing stand as the circles look too vertically elongated to me when I stop seeing the drawing from a 45 degree angle

[Anonymous No.4336325]

>>4336324
I forgot the drawing. Here it is!

[Anonymous No.4336329]

>>4336316
I mean it is a plane with human characteristics. It is already an awkward idea

BUUUT, I like the line work and the human characteristics got me convinced, so good job on that. Wait for some other peep here to give feedback too

[Anonymous No.4336333]

>>4336113
I was legit had nothing open other than the reference while drawing, but my mind could've wandered while doing so. I'll need to see what I can do about focus.

[Anonymous No.4336340]

>>4334346

20's to 30's is the average i think. why do you need to know this though?

[Anonymous No.4336342]

>>4334625
>>4334654
I believe you shouldn't see this as something that can be measured per hour, because it might give you false hopes in the future and think "I've spent x amount of hours with diminishing returns." Just try to draw when the opportunity shows up and UNDERSTAND what you're doing, take for example a sketch from a reference, stop and ask yourself "Does it get close/looks like what I'm trying to draw?"

You need to think things through to get good, bruteforcing the process might help develop some muscle memory but that can only get you so far. Pinpoint the mistakes you find and solve them, either by asking for help from someone else who's good at this or by yourself if it's possible.

[Anonymous No.4336380]

>>4334253

Tried to construct my major forms inside boxes, rather than using ellipses today. not happy with the results. I’m not sure if this is something I need to stick with and practice, or if my existing method is adequate. I feel myself slipping away from the reference and becoming less accurate due to shoddy foundations.

>>4336203
Thank you. Boring abdomen and pelvis makes sense as they’re the part of the body I’ve spent the least amount of time trying to understand. Will get on that ASAP, thank you.

[Anonymous No.4336382]

>>4336380
Wont spam thread with my refs, but they are here

>>4318304
>>4318306

[Anonymous No.4336401]

>>4336125
>>4336131
They used a mixture of pencils and pastels in the early years of automotive design (like the first example)

As for the 2nd picture, it's a mixture of artist markers, white pencils and air brush judging by the highlights. I'd suggest watching these videos to give yourself an idea on how to do it. The first one is a sped up process of an old designer from Pininfarina Paolo Martin and the latter is a swedish guy who specializes in car sketching.

best of luck anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8W1KReVxzA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRK0CKS85eg

[Anonymous No.4336437]

>>4334719
I like it realy much

[Anonymous No.4336451]

random construction practice
1/2

[Anonymous No.4336456]

I really wish I had a teacher guiding me, im not sure if the effort is in vain or if i'm actually slowly getting an understanding of how shapes interact in 3D
2/2

[Anonymous No.4336460]

>>4334963
Are we reading the same post because its realy clear that anon is worying about not reaching his full potential

[Anonymous No.4336465]

rate my turtles, anon

[Anonymous No.4336478]

>>4336465

Turtle/10. Would destroy the Galapagos to befriend.

[Anonymous No.4336486]

>>4336456
Wrapping lines. Just put wrapping lines around things. It made everything click immediately for me.

[Anonymous No.4336546]

>>4336171
>I get caught up in line lengths. Do you have anything on that which could help?

Obviously not an expert but here's what I did: I worried about small details only, compared line size and angle to nearby completed features, and worked my way through the whole picture one line that was connected to the last at a time. I didn't worry about the "bigger picture" at all when making this, and when I put a line down I tried not to nitpick it too much unless it was really fucked up, then moved on to the next quickly.

Not sure if that'll help much

[Anonymous No.4336552]

>>4336465
nice, add some nunchakus

[Anonymous No.4336557]

>>4336316
I think you pulled it off quite nicely, and her body is really nice and juicy.

Did you reference the human parts from something, or is that all from memory/technique?

[Anonymous No.4336561]

>>4336486
will do chief

[Anonymous No.4336572]

>>4335890
Well sure these are rough and you can hone these a lot, but I think they're a step in the right direction.

[Anonymous No.4336594]

>>4336136
Appreciate it. I definitely got inspiration by watching monster movies like Godzilla and looking at insects

[Anonymous No.4336598]

How do you figure out where to put highlights on a figure?

[Anonymous No.4336609]

Anyone here draw with their off-hand?
How dumb would it be to try to start this way?

[Anonymous No.4336619]

>>4336609
If you don't even know how to write with your off hand how do you even think you're gonna draw with it?

[Anonymous No.4336627]

Any good sources on learning to draw/ink with a brush specifically?

[Otakuking69 No.4336646]

There I studied Loomis. Now when do I get good?

[Anonymous No.4336651]

>>4336646
after a bajillion years

[Anonymous No.4336656]

>>4336609
I've heard some art teachers try to get people to try it out, apparently the difficulty of it makes you think more about the stuff you're actually putting on the page. that's probably bullshit though.

[Anonymous No.4336674]

>>4335451
Assume that the board doesn't know shit outside of what's in the sticky, my friend.

[Anonymous No.4336714]

my digital painting always looks the same - pic related.
flat, lifeless. Is it because I use opacity pen pressure?
plz help. who should I be studying?

[Anonymous No.4336716]

>>4336646
multiply that by a thousand

[Anonymous No.4336746]

Here are the gesture drawings i did for today. Its my fourth day in a row doing some.

[Anonymous No.4336760]

[Anonymous No.4336763]

>>4336746
Nice chicken scratches

[Anonymous No.4336795]

quick sketch from an old photo shoot a friend and I did

[Anonymous No.4336853]

>>4336714
here is another one.

[Anonymous No.4336855]

>>4336795
post ref, and fix alignment

[Anonymous No.4336856]

>>4336853
bucci is used for ref again

[Anonymous No.4336878]

>>4333956
Feeling good about this.

[Anonymous No.4336895]

jeepers creepers

[Anonymous No.4336923]

>>4336878
Bottom right drawing is pretty decent though her eyes are a bit lop sided. For the most part, all your eyes are symbol drawings. Feel the eyelids wrap around the eyeballs. Also, avoid drawing all the outlines of the lips.

[Anonymous No.4336925]

>>4336923
Reference

[Anonymous No.4336927]

>>4336329
Thanks, some guys in discord told me she was off balance and did a redline but I havent been able to replicate it lol
>>4336557
From memory mostly, except for the plane bits. I find it easier to get a more dynamic pose

[Anonymous No.4336930]

>>4336923
>>4336925
Also, tips on how to draw stubbles?

[Anonymous No.4336950]

>>4336401
>>4336140
thanks these were helpful.

[Anonymous No.4336955]

>>4336895
Hmmm. You might either use a ruler for straight lines or rotate the paper over so you can make a straighter line with your arm.

Also the coloring is pretty off from the lines, making the drawing look messy and harder to read

And the head's chin doesn't look quite right, as the rest of the chin, below the teeth is quite short

[Anonymous No.4336966]

>>4336927
Oh I didn't consider the off balance thing, but they're right after reviewing it.

[Anonymous No.4336971]

>>4336923
the eye shape thing is because i havent figured out what shape theyre supposed to be yet. i can draw realistic people but this 80s anime shit is weird. youre right but id what its supposed to look like.

[Anonymous No.4337093]

Absolute beginner here, trying to get the kick of body proportions (and slipped a muscle anatomy in the mix).
I know for sure that arms are fucked, but what else is irredeemably shit ?

[Anonymous No.4337121]

>>4333956
>draw bell pepper form memory
>looks bad/childish
>draw bell pepper form photo reference
>looks even worse

I try to see shapes but I fail to draw them properly. When I do a ironic parody of a game (pic related) it looks acceptable.
I don't understand whats wrong with me.

[Anonymous No.4337125]

12.9 iPad Pro 3rd gen 64gb with apple keyboard case and Apple Pencil 2nd gen for $650. Good deal?

[Anonymous No.4337127]

>>4337121
Practice and draw more even though it doesn’t look how you want it to.
I wasn’t born holding a pencil and I’m not any sort of what people call “talented” at drawing so if I can do it then I’m sure you can do it too.

[Anonymous No.4337135]

>>4333956

another study with a different approach.

I tried one of those oil painting process from youtube. rough sketch then start painting for there. had trouble with the eyes I gave up and just copy and paste.

[Anonymous No.4337185]

>>4337093
everything...ughhhh yuck

[Anonymous No.4337190]

>>4337185
Care to elaborate ?

[Anonymous No.4337207]

what in particular is wrong with her right arm/hand

[Anonymous No.4337251]

>>4336197
Why?

[Anonymous No.4337281]

>>4335988
I think the same about my art. I feel like I put more effort into things I'm more passionate about. Try finding something you really enjoy drawing, even if it's just a pose.

[Anonymous No.4337284]

>>4337207
right arm is too short

[Anonymous No.4337288]

First time doing modified countour, by looking at my hand with 1 eye and drawing what Is saw.

Any pointers on how to go about drawing what you see would be appreciated

[Anonymous No.4337305]

>>4337185
This is why /beg/ sucks. Dipshits being dipshits to feel better about themselves without giving pointers in the right direction
>>4337190
The lower body is too small and the spaces between upper and lower arms look weird. Can't give good advice, am /beg/inner too

[Anonymous No.4337316]

I've always had in the back of my head the thought that I should learn how to draw for honestly years now. But I finally decided to get around to it, but I dunno if I'll be able to give the dedication needed to get better, but If i try to quit, i know that voice is my head is gonna keep nagging me. what do?

[Anonymous No.4337323]

>>4337316
also haha fuck grammar

[Anonymous No.4337327]

>>4337305
Thanks, I'll try to work on that.

[Anonymous No.4337330]

>>4334378
Very much yes. If you can't measure size and proportion and can't draw what you see instead of symbol drawing you're going to have a hard time drawing from imagination, even if it's something as simple as a box.
Copying what you see is working in 2D. Perspective and construction is transforming your mindset from drawing on the surface of the page in two dimensions to drawing inside the page, in (virtual) 3D. If you don't have a grasp on the 2D side of things then you won't be able to handle the virtual 3D space, nawmsayin'?
But by all means at least try it from time to time, and read up on the subject of perspective to get yourself acquainted with the idea. You don't want to be stuck copying stuff forever because you perpetually don't feel like you're ready for that magical moment when you can crack open one of Unky Loomis's mystical tomes of knowledge or get into Drawabox. Throw yourself off the deep end from time to time and see how far you can swim.

Also, try to get some draftsmanship practice in. If you can control your drawing implement accurately then you'll have an easier time. It also helps to loosen up by doodling shapes and circles and scribbles to relax and work your drawing muscles, which again helps your draftsmanship and helps you to draw your lines more confidently. Remember to get in the habit of drawing from the shoulder.

Last of all, don't forget to have some fun. All grinding and no fun makes anon a crabby d/ic/k. Be patient and do your best to keep a good attitude.

[Anonymous No.4337334]

>>4334534
Completly soulless did you use a 3d program for the pose by any chance?

[Anonymous No.4337336]

>>4337135
Downsyndrome. Lol.

[Anonymous No.4337338]

>>4334575
Suspiciously decent pencil control for a first timer. Definitely /beg/ but not literally-first-time ham-fisted-kindergartener-style drawing.

[Anonymous No.4337348]

>>4336465
good work

[Anonymous No.4337351]

I'm a complete beginner.
First two pics on the left side are what I tried to draw by looking at reference and trying to figure out perspective to the best of my ability.
Everything else is what I tried drawing from memory.
I'm not sure yet if I want to go for a realistic style or a more cartoonish one instead, probably should just focus on improving everything first, and worry about stylizing later.

[Anonymous No.4337356]

>>4337316
if you're worried you'll quit then give yourself an easy goal, like draw 15 minutes a day. you can draw more if you feel like it but at least do those 15 minutes even on days you'd rather not. good luck

[Anonymous No.4337358]

>>4334749
Cooking is most definitely an art, except you're painting with flavors rather than colors. It takes honing a lot of different skills in cooking and preparing ingredients just to make decent meals from scratch at home. Maybe any tard can follow a recipe but it takes a little bit of artistry to just whip up something with a limited set of ingredients to work with and some tidbits of knowledge.

[Anonymous No.4337371]

>>4336923
>>4336925
what brush?

[Anonymous No.4337373]

Can someone red-line this?

[Anonymous No.4337398]

>>4337373
No problem buddy.

[Anonymous No.4337405]

>>4337373
This artist should work on their fundies

[Anonymous No.4337437]

>>4335107
>draw 3D forms not outlines
what do you mean?

[Anonymous No.4337440]

how can i stop browsing this site and just draw?

[Anonymous No.4337445]

>>4337440
Pop in a CD or queue up an hour of music.
Put your headphones on.

[Anonymous No.4337450]

>Have "artsy talent" since forever
>Even practiced drawing stuff for 2 months straight
>No major improvements
>90% of advice you see is "JUST DRAW ANON" or boils down to it
>Lose all motivation and drop it entirely
>Get a muse going once every 2 years and draw something I'm really proud of

Just end it

[Anonymous No.4337458]

>>4337207
Perspective error.
The forearm is somehow in front of her enormous breasts, even though it's flush with the torso, and they should flop right over it. Instead they are flopping over the upper arms, which they shouldn't, at least not without an invisible pane of glass or something pressing against her and squishing them flat to the sides.

[Anonymous No.4337525]

>>4337371
Perfect Pencil for CSP
https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1712564

[Anonymous No.4337534]

>>4334140
Measuring is always relative. This is double the size of this other thing. It's halfway between these two points. And so on. It's always harder at the start.

That said, why a ruler? Why not just use your pencil? Look up how to sight measure with your pencil.

[Anonymous No.4337542]

Reposting this I haven't made any changes since I last posted it nut I'm looking forward to coloring this.
>>4334049
I would work on animal heads more, the dead animal is pretty well done though. It looks great man.

[Anonymous No.4337565]

>>4337450
Unironically share your work, curious how your drawings look. To be honest, two months is nothing, that and it also depends on the quality of your practice.

[Anonymous No.4337573]

>>4337336

used you as my ref

[Anonymous No.4337597]

trying to design female characters for my comic book. or better yet trying to learn to draw female anime characters. this is what ive come up with so far. obviously not satisfied with it. could i get some feedback? what should i do to improve these

[Anonymous No.4337648]

>>4337597
Main problem, apart from obvious wonky linework/unappealing color choices is just that it's kind of lopsided. You might want to get into the habit of flipping your canvas while drawing to correct that.

[Anonymous No.4337679]

>>4337565
>depends on the quality of your practice
Well, I think I'd actually practice if I had an idea of how to do so, lel

[Anonymous No.4337690]

>>4337679
read a book lol

[Anonymous No.4337691]

>>4337679
You literally just try to draw things and when it doesn't work you draw them again but fixing your mistakes this time.
How are there still people who can't figure this out.

[Anonymous No.4337704]

>>4337679
>>4337450
1. forget about your """"talent"""" it's useless without any devolpment anyway.

2. JUST DRAW, consider what area you could improve on, read a book/watch a video lesson/take a course on that area, then repeat until you die.

[Anonymous No.4337714]

How do I get better at drawing eyes? They are the biggest problem for me together with hands

[Anonymous No.4337716]

>>4337648
Could you point out an example of that? because I do that. This is after flipping the canvas and fixing the asymmetry.

[Anonymous No.4337757]

>>4337251
Because you made something decent in only 3 weeks.

[Anonymous No.4337759]

>>4337542
yeah i definitely need to work on animals since i only ever draw spotted felines, these ended up looking a bit too cartoony imo. Thanks for the response.

[Anonymous No.4337854]

>>4337573
lmfao

[Anonymous No.4337868]

>>4337351
Your referenced stuff shows promise for a total beginner, keep at it

[Anonymous No.4337876]

Why do so many /beg/s talk about style when it's clear they don't even have a basic grasp of fundamentals? What's the point of having a style if everything you draw is trash?

[Anonymous No.4337889]

>>4337534
While I do use some points of references to measure if something should be half or double the length, I didn't think of measuring with a pencil

I'll look into it. Thanks

[Anonymous No.4337899]

>>4337093
Too much symmetry, too many straight lines, arms are way too skinny and small, also front view is generally a weak pose and you should try more dynamic poses (3/4 view is a good pose to learn when starting)

It's not "bad" though, I can see you tried to work things in. Maybe try referencing other artist's work for a bit and finding details+features you like and working them into your own stuff and/or reading some beginner art books.

[Anonymous No.4337904]

>>4336465
I like turtles

[Anonymous No.4337905]

>>4337876
Because beginners are unable to see past the /ic/ing.

[Anonymous No.4337930]

[Anonymous No.4338017]

could an anon spell this out for me? I am dumbfounded at this sentence

[Anonymous No.4338072]

>>4338017
It just seems to be saying that if the purple line should be closer to the far side of those boxes in fig. 5. Line tends to the right, so you draw the side of the box on the left.
I'm not sure why they'd bother saying something like that, though, so maybe I've misunderstood it.

[Anonymous No.4338084]

>>4338072
I think I get it now, thanks anon

[Anonymous No.4338092]

>>4338072
I think he bothered explaining that to help people construct figures with boxes from reference. Like you said, he wants the reader to understand that if they see the line of symmetry of a reference closer to one side then they should draw a box with a visible side plane on the other side.

[Anonymous No.4338156]

>>4337930
Gotta work on making your lines more confident and easier to read, but I appreciate the wacky wahoo pizza hobo

[Anonymous No.4338163]

>>4338162
>>4338162
>>4338162
NEW

[Anonymous No.4338399]

>>4337899
Thanks a lot for the advice.
I was told to practice front view to get a better grasp of proportions, but I'll try to draw different poses from now on.

[Anonymous No.4340592]

8 year iatus lmao