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What do we think about Drawabox lessons? Useful? Cringe?

>> No.4326409

ISIS

>> No.4326426

>>4326409
Glad to know this meme is still here.

>> No.4326494

The basic lessons are useful, the rest is optional.

>> No.4326501

>learning to draw from someone with no skills
>learning regurgitated lessons instead of just learning from peter han
why would you do this

>> No.4326507

To learn how to draw well you just need these two magic words: Just draw

>> No.4326617

>>4326501
Is it really just a free version of dynamic sketching? I wanted to do both but I'm considering dropping drawabox if they're exactly the same

>> No.4326621
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>>4326501
>>4326617

>> No.4326632

>>4326621
Wow a cherry picked image better throw away 30+ years in the industry and an incredibly skilled instructor like a reactionary 16 year old

>> No.4326634

>>4326617
Drawabox is a worse version of DS.
DS does take more effort though, so if you're a complete /beg/ you might as well start with drawabox since it's a lot less time consuming than DS.

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>>4326621

>> No.4326642

>>4326632
>the industry
12 yo lol fuck off to 9gag

>> No.4326644

>>4326642
literally triggered by nothing, post your work

>> No.4326646

>>4326641
how come this fag can't keep any consistent perspective if all he does is grind boxes wtf.
Each separate limb seems to be a snap of a different pose...
and that face... that fucking face lmao

>> No.4326647

>>4326644
>triggered
12 yo lol fuck off to 9gag

>> No.4326648

>>4326641
Not good, not terrible

>> No.4326655

>>4326647
thats what i thought, sit down.

>> No.4326659

>>4326655
>sit down
brain damage lol fuck off back to deviantart

>> No.4326685

>>4326641
>this is your brain on dynamic sketching

>> No.4326693

>>4326406
The first lesson is good since it's pretty much a copy from Peter Han's lesson. It does an okay job teaching line quality and getting you started on free hand perspective.
Don't bother with hte rest.

>> No.4326706

>>4326634
Mind elaborating just what makes it worse? I did DaB as a beg and it forced me to think and draw in 3d forms (granted it took about a year, but nevertheless)

>> No.4326724

>>4326706
The only exercises that are actually good are the ones he directly copied from DS
And even then the drawabox guy tends to add his own twist on these exercises which most of the time completely miss the purpose of the exercise.
The main exercise for drawabox, which is obviously drawing boxes, isn't really as useful as some people like to pretend.
Sure, being able to draw boxes somewhat correctly in perspective without needing any setup is definitely useful, but grinding boxes is just a waste of time.
In DS you have to draw boxes for week 3 I believe, and that's it.
It's just a passing exercise to get you comfortable with drawing boxes, not to grind them for 50 hours.
DS spends more time on combining different forms and understanding how to use construction to draw stuff from reference so you can build your visual library.
The drawabox guy tries to go past just drawing boxes, but all of his explanations and exercises just fall flat and he even had a chapter on anatomy which he removed because it was below /beg/ tier.
Drawabox will definitely make you really good at drawing boxes, but that's about it.

>> No.4326734

>>4326621
>tfw a /beg/ normie that would be completely okay with drawing like that

>> No.4326742

>>4326734
Other than the ugly face and the curved lightsaber it's actually not as bad as people here make it out to be.

>> No.4326743

>>4326724
Thank you, finally a clear explanation of why it's inferior

>> No.4326775

>>4326724
if you can learn how to draw cubes in any rotation in one week then hats off to you. the rest of us will need to practice longer

>> No.4326828

>>4326775
>if you can learn how to draw cubes in any rotation in one week then hats off to you
That's the whole point.
You don't learn to draw boxes (I don't think drawabox teaches cubes so I assume you meant boxes) in any orientation in 1 week, because you literally don't have to.
Drawing boxes free-hand without any setup in any orientation will take years, even pros still have trouble drawing them from weird angles simply because our brains aren't very good at rotating stuff at certain angles.
Grinding boxes is for the most part a waste of time since the reward isn't worth the amount of time you spend on it.
Same thing as grinding loomis heads.
The loomis method is just a tool, not a final product.
Same with boxes.
Unless you have some kind of learning disability, you can learn how to draw boxes while drawing stuff from life.
You'll get a good amount of value from the time invested that way, since you're also expanding your visual library instead of just mindlessly drawing boxes.

>> No.4326880

>>4326621
worst thing peter has ever made, and it's still leagues above draw a box guy's art

>> No.4326883

>>4326641
>tfw this is who begs are learning perspective from

>> No.4326891

>>4326641
>that hand holding the weapon
>what is perspective?
People doing drawabox get exactly what they deserve for not looking up their teacher's art before learning from them.

>> No.4326894

If DAB is shit, does anyone have some decent and (hopefully) cheap alternatives for a complete /beg/?

>> No.4326899

>>4326406
it's fine

>> No.4326898

>>4326894
Just download dynamic sketching 1 and 2 from cgpeers of gfxpeers.
If you can't, just ask someone in the video course thread to upload it on mega.

>> No.4326917

>>4326894
seconding what the other anon said, just get dynamic sketching instead

>> No.4326927

>>4326917
>>4326898
Thanks, niggas

>> No.4326946

>>4326880
The dwarf face is pretty much like the drawabox guy's drawings, but yeah the perspective is at least consistent

>> No.4326960

>>4326641
>Box Man claims that someone is paying him for this level of quality at a professional level.

I hope this gives some hope to the rest of you who are despairing about not being able to get work.
If this is what will pass in small studio games, you guys should be able to get an ok resume together without having to resort to furry porn and hallmark cards.

>> No.4326967

>>4326946
https://www.artstation.com/peterhanstyle
Looking at his artstation, I think that was just a very lazy attempt.

>> No.4326978

>>4326828
>Drawing boxes free-hand without any setup in any orientation will take years, even pros still have trouble drawing them from weird angles simply because our brains aren't very good at rotating stuff at certain angles.

I disagree, most people have boxes nailed after 250 of them. I'm telling you man this DaB thing isn't as bad as everyone says it is

>> No.4327053

OP here, thank you for the info. I have Dynamic Sketching and am ready to watch it. Just after I grind a few more ellipses.

>> No.4327076

/beg/ here. What I immediately disliked about DaB was the insistence on keeping your wrist and elbow 'locked' and ONLY drawing from the shoulder. I realize it's beneficial to to draw from the shoulder, but it just felt unnatural and wonky to draw every type of line, no matter the length or size solely with the shoulder. While it might be the correct way to go about it, it made drawing really unfun for me. Constantly having to remind myself to only use my shoulder disrupted my workflow immensely, so I decided to just drop the whole thing. I'm not saying that I don't draw from my shoulder, it just decided it worked a lot better for me personally to use different parts of my arm and hand when it felt natural to do. I mean, if you wanted to draw a straight line across your paper, you would just naturally use your shoulder/elbow instead of fingers/wrist.

>> No.4327262

>>4326724
Since you seem like you did the course, could you give me a little bit insight in how you went about it? I mean, did you really do it weekly like the course itself?

>> No.4327264

>>4327262
>like the course itself?
like the course implies*

>> No.4327280

>>4326898
To me it only looks like a bunch of random drawings crammed in a 59 page book with tiny handmade annotations.... unless I downloaded the wrong pdf?

>> No.4327297

>>4326724
Complete beg here, Dynamic Sketching doesn't suddenly get advanced and turn into "draw the rest of the owl" at any point compared to DAB?

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>> No.4327309

>>4326724
Getting good at boxes worked for Kim Jung Gi

>> No.4327317

>>4327053
I think I suck too much to even do the draw a line and circle without using a ruler or tracing paper for the first one.

>> No.4327319

>>4327309
You'll get good at boxes by drawing vehicles, machinery, animals, and human figures. Drawing boxes by itself is inefficient.

>> No.4327395

>>4326898
Are there pdf or just videos?

>> No.4327445

It's okay. Just do dynamic sketching instead. The exercises can be useful though.

>> No.4327483

>>4327297
This, I'm looking for a better starting course besides Draw a Box but not if it goes from square one to one thousand all of a sudden.

>> No.4327503

>>4327280
>>4327395
>pdf
Dynamic sketching is a video course. Any pdf with the name dynamic in it (dynamic bible etc) is just a companion to it

>> No.4327580

>>4327503
Oh, I see now. And where can I see the full video course without investing a lot of shekels, namely none?

>> No.4327720

>>4327580
dis

>> No.4327858

>>4327580
>>4327720
Both ds1 and ds2 are on cgpeers

>> No.4327900

>>4326641
wtf? she is just holding it suspending in the air it isn't resting on her shoulder or anything. strongest wrist grip ever?

>> No.4328334

>People hating on boxman even though he's better than 99% of /ic/
lol

>> No.4329720

>>4328334
Based and boxpilled

>> No.4329729

>>4327900
Lol, didn't noticed it at first

>> No.4329883

Good or bad he’s smart he’s making almost 4K a month on patreon

>> No.4330270

>>4326406
The structure is useful. More art instruction should have explicit exercises to do afterwards.

>> No.4330281

>>4327900
This could have been avoided if he spent one minute thinking about the logic of the pose and recreated it himself with a broom handle or something