/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4316059]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

previous >>4311321

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj
RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

[Anonymous No.4316154]

[Anonymous No.4316171]

>>4316154
You have the right ideas but the face is horrible
Its not just western, it's rather misguided.

Make a study of an animoo face from a reference either an official art or a really good fanart from a good artist that enhances the original style.

[Anonymous No.4316223]

Sorry I can't resize more.

I started drawing a month ago and this is my first time posting here.

Thanks, feedback appreciated.

[Anonymous No.4316263]

>>4316223
For only having started drawing a month ago, your anatomy, proportions, shading, facial structure and linework are fucking God-Tier. If you want to improve at Animu, you should read something like Pic Related

[Anonymous No.4316266]

>>4316154
I keep telling you to read any of the many how to draw and reference books from the guy who made evangelion, and you keep not doing it. Why?

[Anonymous No.4316277]

Feedback/advice?

[Anonymous No.4316283]

>>4316059

[Anonymous No.4316294]

is perspective/anatomy better now?

[Anonymous No.4316330]

this is from last month but I haven't changed much also I know they're boring characters I have 0 imagination if anyone has tips on that i could use some help
>inb4 floating heads
shut up shut up shut up

[Anonymous No.4316331]

>>4316277
Draw the body before you add the clothing. those legs make no sense.

[Anonymous No.4316333]

>>4316330
Stop naming your 10 minutes scribbles as if they are some fleshed out characters.

[Anonymous No.4316341]

>>4316330
Change the noses up for the love of god. Right now, all their noses look the exact same. Other than that, they all look distinct enough from eachother to be different, unique characters.

[Anonymous No.4316348]

>>4316333
>thinking this is the only time I've drawn them
I have backstories and reference sheets and personalities for them I just can't draw them interacting in different situations cause I'm still bad but I'm trying

>>4316341
thank you Anon:) you're right I'm bad at noses I've been practicing different kinds this past month like upwards and with a higher bridge and all that so I'll try to improve this

[Anonymous No.4316351]

>>4316348
>I'm still bad but I'm trying
This is literally the best attitude you could possibly have here. Keep going with this, and you will make it as an artist, no matter what crabs tell you.

[Anonymous No.4316352]

>>4316331
I did.

[Anonymous No.4316359]

>>4316352

[Anonymous No.4316401]

>>4316351
thank you so much anon here's something else that isn't just a head because I love you

[Anonymous No.4316409]

>>4316352
IMO you should draw more from reference, try to copy exactly what you're seeing to get the style. The anatomy is going to get better with time, mine is also not that good too, but when you copy you absorb some of what makes the image look good.

Like when you're learning guitar, you don't jump straight into making your own songs, that would be kinda dumb wouldn't it? Try to think about drawing more like music, you need to grind to get better.

Tried doing a drawover your skeleton and fixed some proportion things I saw, hope it helps some way.

[Anonymous No.4316427]

>>4316352
IMO you should draw more from reference, try to copy exactly what you're seeing to get the style. The anatomy is going to get better with time, mine is also not that good too, but when you copy you absorb some of what makes the image look good.

Like when you're learning guitar, you don't jump straight into making your own songs, that would be kinda dumb wouldn't it? Try to think about drawing more like music, you need to grind to get better.

Tried doing a drawover your skeleton and fixed some proportion things I saw, hope it helps some way.

[Anonymous No.4316463]

Seen it several times now, but..is rendering with the hard brush a meme? Tried it that way to give it a more textured look but it seems off

[Anonymous No.4316466]

>>4316427
Yours looks worse

[Anonymous No.4316470]

>>4316463
too much blending with the shadows
it looks like the woman is made out of clay
study shadows
there are hard and soft ones, they vary, the boundary between light and shadow,
teh density etc.

[Anonymous No.4316474]

>>4316466
pyw

[Anonymous No.4316489]

>>4316474

[Anonymous No.4316508]

>>4316474
no :)

[Anonymous No.4316516]

>>4316427
Thanks anon, advice is always good. I usually draw form refs, but this time I couldn't find the pose I wanted.

[Anonymous No.4316558]

>>4316427
not bad but just what the fuck happened to her head

[Anonymous No.4316589]

Is there a difference between drawing from memory and imagination?

[Anonymous No.4316593]

>>4316294
Misplaced face and proportions are out of whack, but you're getting the hang of it. Just remember some proportional marks or guidelines and study your facial planes to better place things.

[Anonymous No.4316597]

>>4316348
Keep going anon. Keep looking at different angles and scenes in movies or comics to internalize what looks good or natural.

>>4316589
Not really. Anything you can think of from imagination is built off of your existing observational knowledge- you're recalling it and combining it into something new.

[Anonymous No.4316603]

I am really struggling with digital painting. I gave up on this a while ago and have since improved in other areas but I am still completely lost in painting. What do I do?

[Anonymous No.4316607]

>>4316603
do the same steps as in analog painting

[Anonymous No.4316618]

>>4316607
Ok how do I do that

[Anonymous No.4316619]

I did the /IC/ challenge, i know i messed up the hands and they are larger than they are supposed to be.

I recall someone saying that you should do rough sketches for form and such before you commit to detail or fear ending up doing detailed work that you then have to throw away, which was pretty much the case in this one.

Is it atleast acceptable?

[Anonymous No.4316640]

>>4316154
I don't care if the face is your style or something, it just looks ugly and unappealing. Your waifu deserves better anon

[Anonymous No.4316693]

>>4316470
what do you mean wit too much blending? the only hard shadow is on the right of the nose

[Anonymous No.4316696]

>>4316154
asukaposter go to the request thread now and draw asuka

[Anonymous No.4316699]

>>4316693
thats their point

[Anonymous No.4316706]

Any tips for drawing feet?

[Anonymous No.4316710]

>>4316619
I'm loving every last bit of it, although you're supposed to sketch it upside down and post it that way as well

[Anonymous No.4316746]

>>4316693
Needs more hard shadows is what they mean. You turned it into an amorphous blob by making everything soft.

[Anonymous No.4316751]

Drawing legs makes me sad

[Anonymous No.4316762]

>>4316696
I will do requests in a year time when I'm good enough
I mean hopefully someone will want them

[Anonymous No.4316768]

tried constructing a scorpion

[Anonymous No.4316780]

>>4316751
Then go look at the legs section of Anatomy for Sculptors, and draw all the pictures in it. You'll learn something and hate legs much less.

[Anonymous No.4316796]

Which one is better for a beginner, not entirely beginner, but still /beg/
Want to get into figure/head drawing

[Anonymous No.4316798]

>>4316796
Bridgman isn't very beginner friendly. Go with gesture drawing books alongside Anatomy for Sculptors. Much better solution for you

[Anonymous No.4316805]

>>4316798
The 5th edition (latest) of the Complete Guide to Drawing from Life is very easy to follow and good for somewhat advanced beginners.

[Anonymous No.4316816]

>>4316798
>Go with gesture drawing books
like what?

[Anonymous No.4316823]

>>4316816
Either FORCE books or Figure Drawing: Design and Invention by Michael Hampton would be my favorites.

[Anonymous No.4316857]

Where can i find drawing for all its worth by loomis

[Anonymous No.4316862]

>>4316857
https://archive.org/details/loomis_FIGURE_draw

[Anonymous No.4316874]

So uh, if I'm a total noob I should just start out with basic shapes? Square/cube, Triangle/cone, Circle/sphere?

[Anonymous No.4316877]

>>4316874
yes, and LINES

[Anonymous No.4316879]

>>4316816
This is from the same person that wrote Figure drawing:design and invention (Hampton) and it helped me with gesture a lot

[Anonymous No.4316898]

>>4316877
...how do I practice lines? With purpose I mean

[Anonymous No.4316908]

>>4316898
you think of a line in your head and then you try to draw it as accurately as possible

vary the length, shape, and weight of the lines you intend to draw

[Anonymous No.4316916]

>>4316908
Fair, thanks

[Anonymous No.4316924]

I DON'T WANT ANY ICE COLD SHOWERS ANYMORE
it's the only thing that wakes me up anymore, I can't draw without taking one BUT PLEASE IT FEELS SO FUCKING HORRIBLE

[Anonymous No.4316925]

>>4316924
was meant for /vent/ thread but whatever

[Anonymous No.4316933]

>>4316706
Managed to figure out how to draw some sort of feet, though I can't say that I am happy with them.
Any criticism towards this lineart in general?

[Anonymous No.4316938]

is this foreshortened pose correct?

[Anonymous No.4316947]

any good tutorials on screentones?

[Anonymous No.4316949]

>>4316938
Another slightly adjusted

[Anonymous No.4316950]

>>4316059
Probably time I actually study some anatomy. I'm trying to do figure drawing with no reference to practice in perspective. Legs are too long. Feel free to rip it apart. What is the worst thing about it that I should focus on in my next sketch?

[Anonymous No.4316992]

Back in early 2019, when I started tolearn how to draw, I wasn't exactly grinding fundamentals but I had a lot of fun designing OCs in standard poses. Now everytime I am trying to draw something I am ruined by tension and all I do Is Loomis heads of anime girls and unnatural poses of 6 heads tall female mannequins.
Any tips? Pic related Is one year ago.

[Anonymous No.4317025]

>>4316798
don't listen to him you just need to know how to draw cubes to ''get'' bridgman

[Anonymous No.4317029]

[Anonymous No.4317035]

i got back into drawing after like a year of not doing it so heres stuff i drew recently

[Anonymous No.4317075]

I'm trying to paint hair, how do? The tutorials I've seen are all over the place. Give it to me straight doc. I get completely lost after base color, you're supposed to add shading with base color then what do I do?

[Anonymous No.4317087]

>>4316992
My primary critique I saw off the bat was the way the arms and hands are bending because they are holding an item. Nobody’s wrist and arm bend that unnaturally when holding something

[Anonymous No.4317119]

>>4317075
Look at Pin2D's hair videos.

[Anonymous No.4317120]

>>4316924
>he fell for the coldshower meme

[Anonymous No.4317127]

Is tracing/going over photos of /fit/ people and painting muscles over the skin a viable way to familiarize oneself with how human bodies work? Assuming total /beg/-level with very little experience in observational drawing.
the pic is from cubebrush art school course

[Anonymous No.4317130]

>>4316933
The feet are too small compared to the legs, but if you're going for stylistically elongated limbs, then I suppose it's fine.
The (our) left shin is too long, in that position his foot should be in the air. If you want the foot to be resting on the ground then you should move it a bit forward.
I really like the weapon.

[Anonymous No.4317145]

>>4316992
Post recent work

[Anonymous No.4317150]

>>4316805
>>4316823
I bought Bridgman's Drawing from Life, Hampton's book and have the Anatomy PDF.
No I can finally stop hoarding PDFs.

[Anonymous No.4317155]

Does anyone have any good tips on how to simplify facial features when referencing photographs of people and not other artists' drawings? I feel like I'm having a mental block when it comes to drawing human faces.

[Anonymous No.4317159]

>>4317130
Thanks for the advice m8.

[Anonymous No.4317160]

>>4316950
i can tell the pelvis is very fucked. but i decided to just roll with it.

[Anonymous No.4317169]

>>4317160
why you didnt used a ref

[Anonymous No.4317184]

>>4317169
well... i was just in the mood to start drawing. if i cant find what i need with a quick google search, id rather just wing it then waste a lot of time. i could always just do it again later if i find a good one.

but mostly ive been practicing 3 point perspective with a ruler lately so i think just blocking out a human with boxes and cylinders is kind of good enough just to practice perspective.

but obviously the anatomy suffers.

[Anonymous No.4317191]

>>4316933
Decided to go for a bit more armored look in the end.

[Anonymous No.4317247]

>>4317160
super gay

[Anonymous No.4317283]

>>4316938
focus on the size and the placement of shapes, they will always tell the truth.

[Anonymous No.4317296]

>>4317283
I want to see someone else's take on this, when you have the time can you send over a quick sketch of the pose

[Anonymous No.4317310]

>>4316171
>>4316266
>>4316640
Thou shouldst post thine work.

[Anonymous No.4317363]

What is the point of using lead holders over a regular pencil? I see a few art youtubers using them for sketching.

[Anonymous No.4317364]

>>4317363
you dont have to sharpen it

[Anonymous No.4317371]

>>4317363
Are you serious? You don't know what a mechanical pencil is for?

[Anonymous No.4317378]

>>4317247
Thanks for fixing the hips

[Anonymous No.4317390]

Norlings perspective made easy is really asking the right questions.

why dont we see the tracks as two parallel lines? even with an eye closed it goes to the vanishing point. i assume this has do with the curvature of the earth.

i like this book so far seems like we have an idea of perspective and how it should work but the reason for lack of impletation has to be lack of true understanding which i hope by observing more keenly reality over time will help :)

[Anonymous No.4317410]

>>4316223
Is that hanako kun? Based anon

[Anonymous No.4317423]

>this thread is considered as "beginners"
>these pictures
Oof

[Anonymous No.4317441]

Is this going well? I'm iffy on the big face but that's mostly because I couldn't draw a cute semi-top view as if she was looking up at you.
If it doesn't have any big flaws I'll settle for this angle

[Anonymous No.4317447]

>>4317378
it's still a bit low, the measure from his pelvis to his knee is like the same as from the pelvis to his clavicule lol, unless this was your aim from the start for a monster.

also most of all I gave him a neck haha but it also should be a little higher I think, anyway.

don't be afraid to make messy sketches, but never render some shit that you'll need to repair later if it's something easily fixable like that.

keep up the good work anon.

[Anonymous No.4317452]

>>4317390
Your field of view is spherical, not flat.

[Anonymous No.4317518]

I have this nagging feeling that I want to get better but I don't know how or where to even start. People tell me to do studies of individual body parts and I don't even know how to do that. I've tried to wing it for a while now and I just suck.

[Anonymous No.4317530]

>>4317518
loomis heads. proko video on youtube.

[Anonymous No.4317537]

>>4317127
Of course, but every time you trace, make sure to draw something original next to the trace, using everything you just traced as a reference. This way you can learn forms and shit without resorting to symbol drawing.

[Anonymous No.4317571]

One of these days I'm going to buckle down and really try this. I managed to pick up a pencil for a few days then I stopped again.... never gonna make it

[Anonymous No.4317578]

>>4317530
not him but I can't even do those correctly

[Anonymous No.4317595]

Give me advice, I really need it

[Anonymous No.4317608]

How do you get appeal in your drawings I'm stupid?

[Anonymous No.4317628]

>>4317608
Well, what's an example of an appealing drawing for you? It's all technique mate. Technique or a lucky composition.

[Anonymous No.4317634]

Am I doing good?

[Anonymous No.4317644]

>>4317628

Kim Jung Gi's work is really appealing (to me, I know not everybody agrees). What do you mean technique?

[Anonymous No.4317661]

>>4317644
Can you identify some specific aspects of his work that make it appealing to you?

[Anonymous No.4317665]

>>4317644
Well, it depends on who you want to appeal to see which technique you'll use, as you said not everyone finds all art nice. Saying you like Kim, I can see your inspirations there in your drawing. Now think about what's different between your piece, and Kim's art, which is probably one of your goals if not THE goal.
Now I say you need to go through the whole learning process first mate, you're kinda jumping the shark here, think about what's different between Kim's drawing and yours; for starters, the detail.
As your drawing stands, it needs contrast. For example detail the clothes on the girl (I assume it's a kimono showing one breast?) But leave her skin white. And also detail the mannequin behind the guy on the left. To make some contrast between the humans and clothes / machines.

That's just an example, you might find something different by looking at Kim's work, and think of a different way to improve your piece.
But don't neglect your training, it's hard to make something appealing without the bases but it's nice to have fun every once in a while.
Kim can draw an old fat guy eating ice cream and make it appealing because he's trained his drawing a lot.

[Anonymous No.4317683]

i'm new here.
should i use the sticky if i want to get started, or is the sticky outdated.
what other resources should i look for?

[Anonymous No.4317684]

>>4317634

[Anonymous No.4317695]

>>4317661
I'm not sure actually, it's kind of ethereal, but he manages to keep the liveliness of a piece despite having perfect perspective, the immense level of detail, etc. he just always makes perfect drawings. I guess there's just nothing that I don't like about his work, so it's hard to say what I *do* like, you know? I just like everything about it

>>4317665
Thanks for your advice, I guess what's appealing about his work is that it's finished and proportioned, and my work rarely is, I guess that's what I need to work on!

[Anonymous No.4317714]

does anybody have this book and is it a good book to learn about light

[Anonymous No.4317723]

>>4316154
Asukaposter draw her face like this

[Anonymous No.4317743]

>>4317145
Here's a small practice with arms anatomy

[Anonymous No.4317749]

>>4317684
lol

[Anonymous No.4317774]

>>4317441
I think I made the legs better, still needs more polishing

[Anonymous No.4317786]

>>4316059
What do you recommend for an absolute beginner that wants to sketch people and ordinary places or objects? Is there a single book to follow that will show all the basics? Can I just use a notepad and some pencils?

[Anonymous No.4317790]

>>4317296
Pretty much like this. foreshortening is very depended on a good silhouette to make it look half believable. it might look blocky, but the foundations are there.

[Anonymous No.4317796]

>>4317790
Thank you very much, I was drawing it like this at first but then I noticed it looks like she has her back arched in the original

[Anonymous No.4317813]

drawing arms for few days now. Its feel like i finally get it.

[Anonymous No.4317830]

Trying to git better at drawing/painting vehicles.

[Anonymous No.4317921]

>tfw finally took the Bridgman pill
Even though Loomis, Hampton, etc. are great, I liked the way Bridgman writes, teaches and his style much better

[Anonymous No.4317922]

>>4317363
You can draw with the lead on its side for shading and line weight.
I'm heavy handed, so I have to draw that way, to avoid scarring the paper.

[Anonymous No.4317935]

Is it better to sketch out of imagination while trying to apply what you've learned or to do studies while deconstructing whatever it is you're studying?

I find myself enjoying the process a lot more when just sketching and trying to invent something.

[Anonymous No.4317948]

Is it bad to use only boxes to construct bodies? Or should I use more organic shapes? I swap between both depending on what type of body I'm drawing and I don't know if I should stay consistent.

[Anonymous No.4317949]

[Anonymous No.4318019]

>>4317447
no im just bad with proportion. i can only really draw a figure straight on. so i tried to put cylinders and boxes in 3 point perspective and then turn that into a loomis mannequin but im not quite there yet i guess.

[Anonymous No.4318031]

>>4317595
on the one hand its nice because of the color and amount of detail but your lines are very weak and scratchy and its a little boring to draw both characters straight on like this. i would think one of their bodies should be turned toward the other. the symmetry is good but it comes off like you're afraid to try a harder pose. also very nice background and character designs. and shading imo

[Anonymous No.4318035]

>>4317723
beautiful

[Anonymous No.4318069]

>>4317423
People on /int/ are cruel as fuck and gatekeep people from climbing out of /beg/

[Anonymous No.4318094]

Anon, please, it's like I'm stuck in a loop for now. I do practice a lot and still dislike what I'm doing. Am I ngmi?

[Anonymous No.4318098]

>>4318094
I mean, what do I do to chill. How do you cope with such feelings?

[Anonymous No.4318111]

>>4318094
>>4318098
also some timed gestures I tried to do, how can you advice me?

[Anonymous No.4318187]

Hey guys, I just drew this and am looking for feedback. Particularly on proportions. Also I'd really appreciate some help with the hand, it doesn't feel right but I don't know how to fix it.

[Anonymous No.4318290]

Howdy, fellas, rate this piece of shit. Around 3 weeks of drawing. Am i GMI?

[Anonymous No.4318292]

>>4317949
R I P Z Y Z Z

[Anonymous No.4318333]

Am i understanding the /IC/ sticky correctly if the step after drawing Igor Stravinsky upside down is to try to for example draw real life objects as meticulously as you can?

[Anonymous No.4318352]

>>4318333
Yes, try to understand the shapes that compose them as well you'll realize you can build anything out of a circle, a square and a triangle.

[Anonymous No.4318354]

>>4318187
You’re symbol drawing the facial features a lot, work on drawing from life. Also work on your construction. Your anatomy and proportions could also use some work, do some figure drawings as practice

[Anonymous No.4318358]

>>4318354
I wish I knew what this meant.

[Anonymous No.4318424]

so i've been wondering if i understand gesture.
when i see people doing gesture drawings they are kind of all over the place while I was trying to be very technical about it (bottom row)
i tried again this time thinking in lose terms and drawing quickly and I ended up wit top row. which one should i do and which one is the right way to do it?
i think the top row is the way to go since I actually have more or less fun doing that instead of just placing a few lines hoping i don't end up with a stick figure

[Anonymous No.4318432]

How many brushes is acceptable to use per painting? Should I pick like 4 brushes at the start of each painting and only use those?

I feel like if I just use as many as possible just to use brushes it'll look like crap.

[Anonymous No.4318476]

Can someone help me fix this? The legs seem.. off

[Anonymous No.4318515]

Taking a break from Huston and trying to draw a bigger scene. Will try to power through it and see it as a learning experience even though I of course know it'll be pretty bad.

[Anonymous No.4318517]

>>4318515
Started filling in the final lines.

[Anonymous No.4318580]

My friends says this looks traced. I didnt trace it or even use a reference (except for the gun part), why tf do they think it looks traced

[Anonymous No.4318594]

>>4318476
They are just too long. Your torso is around 3 heads while legs are 4.3-4.5 from pelvis to floor.

[Anonymous No.4318606]

>>4318476

pull her ass up a little then redraw the legs from there. make the legs slightly thinner though.

[Anonymous No.4318610]

>>4318476
Legs seem fine. She just has long legs.

[Anonymous No.4318615]

>>4318580
why do you fucking kids draw anime/manga style? its not your culture. unless you’re really good as an artist, you’re not going to pass as authentic.

[Anonymous No.4318633]

>>4318615
the girls look cuter

[Anonymous No.4318651]

>>4318615
>its not your culture
you interact with things that aren't part of your "culture" on a daily base
yikes AND cringe

[Anonymous No.4318656]

>>4318580
I'd reckon somebody would think that because of the line quality and lack of structure. It really does convey a look that might suggest it being traced without any real understanding of the underlying structure. That being said it if it was traced the neck and shoulders wouldn't look that off.

[Anonymous No.4318660]

>>4318615
shut up before I kill you

[Anonymous No.4318668]

>>4318615
Culture is a spook

[Anonymous No.4318674]

>>4318580
lol this is anything but traced anatomy is all over the place, it baffles me that all the good work with the gun went to waste with animu garbage.
im not even gonna lie to you big dog you need to start using reference because theres not one good thing say about the anime character.

[Anonymous No.4318677]

>>4318674
drawing guns are easy its all straight lines and little details
I've no clue what the fuck arms and legs and shit look like and I cant improve on that for the life of me

[Anonymous No.4318678]

>>4318580
What kind of friends do you have

[Anonymous No.4318684]

Loomis babies.

[Anonymous No.4318686]

Is it normal for lines to look this pixelated when zoomed in? I don't think I've ever seen pro fanart have lines like this.
What brush does one need to avoid it?

[Anonymous No.4318689]

>>4318651
im not saying its cultural appropriation, idiot. having that stule and being authentic and following its rules are all something you need to grow up in to understand. you’ll never be taken seriously as an artist by emulating this style. im just trying to help you save yourself from the inevitable failure you will experience by going down this tired path.

[Anonymous No.4318690]

>>4318660
yeah nice try, you group of indolent fucks

[Anonymous No.4318694]

>>4318686
High dpi/canvas resolution. G-Pen in CSP works fine.

[Anonymous No.4318695]

>>4318689
peak crab

[Anonymous No.4318696]

>>4318686
yes im assuming you zoomed in more than 100%. if you want to be able to zoom more without losing the sharpness you need a higher resolution, like 200 or 300 dpi

[Anonymous No.4318700]

>>4318696
>>4318694
Yeah apparently it's about having a big enough image so the viewer can't zoom in to that point. I went to look for clean fanart and you can notice the pixels if you zoom a lot, but normal people won't go that far. Nice

[Anonymous No.4318701]

>>4318689
>you’ll never be taken seriously as an artist
agreed, but only in particular artistic circles, like traditional painters, galleries etc. in anime art circles you will be taken seriously and theres a lot of money in these circles that you can make with your art. dont act like figurative non-stylized art is the only thing that people care about or commission for, did you receive some good ole brainwashing at art college?

[Anonymous No.4318719]

>>4318677
the character looks square and blocky, I cant say if you constructed or not but you should try doing cylinders for the limbs. heres an example from steve hustons figure drawing.
you mention the detail for the gun, the character have little to no detail theres no flavor to it, if you can put on so many detail on the gun you can put as much detail on the character holding the gun pimp.

[Anonymous No.4318720]

>>4318701
while i agree theres perhaps serious money to be had, i mean if you want to be a serious manga/anime artist, youve got a tough road ahead of you. many emulators actually try to take a crack at moving to japan and get hired by a company to do this stuff. very rarely do they ever get anywhere with it. i only know of a couple of foreigners who live in japan and do this. but yeah, theres always an underground market for kids who can do this stuff. no but i went to school with a bunch of kids where this was all they did, and most of them are now working outside of the creative industry. they may be doing some underground stuff, but can it pay the bills?

[Anonymous No.4318722]

>>4318290
I really really really liked the shading although the hair looks messy on detail. Good job Anon.

[Anonymous No.4318726]

>>4318187
your proportions seem somewhat based on realism. there doesnt appear to be any deliberate stylistic distortion to basic anatomical structures. the face seems stylized somewhat asian-influenced. the only thing that really bothers me is her right hand and fingers. you have an eye for anatomy, you just need your understanding of hands to catch up... all in all, it’s not bad.

[Anonymous No.4318727]

>>4318720
yeah but i doubt anybody here actually wants to become a mangaka or work in a legit anime studio. most people here aim for freelance work like commissions (portraits, illustrations, OCs, porn etc) and setting up a patreon/gumroad. Times have changed, you no longer need a "real" job to make it. The key is getting a following so even if one client doesnt pay you that much, a large group of these clients will give you a lot of money.

I agree that anime is much less "flexible" so you wont get commissioned for books, editorials, social media, whatever. But I cannot deny the fact that a lot of online anime artists make a lot of money and the only people that would ridicule them are some old men from a traditional art college.

[Anonymous No.4318730]

>>4318726
Can you tell me how to fix the right hand? I've been looking at it for a while and I know something is wrong with it, but for the life of me I have no idea how to fix it.

[Anonymous No.4318732]

>>4318187
and maybe study up on hair basics too. it will really improve the overall look of your artwork

[Anonymous No.4318739]

[Anonymous No.4318755]

I know this drawing is pretty awful but how do I actually fix the anatomy to flow when drawing the ass bigger in perspective while NOT bent over?
I can draw girls bent over or standing up just fine but I have been struggling for the past 40 minutes trying to get the pose to look similar to the right picture.

[Anonymous No.4318756]

>>4318187
it seems that mid forearm, there’s an extra joint that shouldn’t be there. but im guessing thats where the muscles change shape. please soften that angle. it seems that the hand is set too high from the base of the wrist. the base of the thumb (brevis) is also too high (as is the adductor). im on mobile, but let me see if i can give you an overlay

[Anonymous No.4318761]

>>4318756
id really appreciate if you could.

[Anonymous No.4318768]

>>4317948
I don't think one is more correct than the other, you should always go with what appeals to you. If you are able to do both or even mix them up and it looks good then that's what you should do.

[Anonymous No.4318770]

>>4317830
how in tf is this /beg/, am i getting rused?

[Anonymous No.4318776]

Is tone curve cheating?
It's also my first time drawing an environment, but i feel like my composition is shit, pls help.

[Anonymous No.4318784]

>>4317774
hey man is this the psycho soldier? i love the detail you've put into this. the foreshortening on the right left is off. both legs are the same size so it makes the right leg look shorter.

[Anonymous No.4318790]

>>4317578
then keep doing them...

[Anonymous No.4318793]

>>4318761
this is not exactly how it should look but should give you a better idea of what you need to do. the wrist still looks like it's folded beyond the breaking point.

was this from a reference image? if it was, would you post it?

[Anonymous No.4318801]

>>4318793
It was from a reference, but it was on quick poses and when I restarted my computer I lost it without thinking.

[Anonymous No.4318808]

>>4318801
ah,ok. well you're doing good. just work on your hands and hair a little more. having more refined hair will make your compositions even better. I need to work on my hands too.

[Anonymous No.4318840]

>>4318031
Thanks bro, I appreciate it

[Anonymous No.4318846]

>>4318770

there's low/mid/high/ /beg/ that's about /mid/ in terms of drawing but the rendering is nonsensical.

[Anonymous No.4318848]

>>4318358
Symbol drawing is drawing what you think something looks like vs what it actually looks like. In >>4318187 this is shown heavily in the face. Construction is using basic shapes and forms to create a more complex figure and is used a lot with humans. I say work on your construction because the head doesn’t look well constructed. Anatomy and proportions should make sense

[Anonymous No.4318850]

>>4318094

is that from some manga?

[Anonymous No.4318866]

>>4318848
Symbol drawers cant recognize the difference. It took me months before I could finally realize what symbol drawing looks like and that was after practicing countless pages of construction

[Anonymous No.4318954]

Yes hi I am trying to follow this guide, but I don't know how to git gud at the yellow boxes. What/how do I study to get a handle on these? Thanks for your time.

[Nosebro No.4318975]

>>4316154
leave beg
>>4316283
leave beg
>>4316294
close
>>4316330
leave beg
>>4316401
leave beg
>>4316463
leave beg
>>4316933
close
>>4317595
leave beg
>>4317608
leave beg
>>4317830
leave beg
>>4318776
leave beg

[Anonymous No.4318981]

>>4318954
dynamic sketching and the first chapter of keys to drawing

[Anonymous No.4318983]

>>4318975
Why did you dodge my drawing

[Anonymous No.4318988]

>>4318975

you have normie eyes

[Anonymous No.4318998]

>>4318848
would you have an idea on how to fix the right hand?

[Anonymous No.4319015]

>>4318975
leave beg

[Anonymous No.4319028]

>>4318983
Drawing he skipped he thinks fit in /beg/

[Anonymous No.4319105]

>>4316751
nice ref got more?

[Anonymous No.4319121]

>>4318975
>be me
>draw something
>post it on /int/
>"get back to /beg/"
>go to /beg/
>post the drawing
>"leave /beg/"

[Anonymous No.4319163]

>>4319121
That anon has bad taste though. >>4316294
>>4316330
>>4316933
>>4317608
>>4318776
Are all still very /beg/ and need to learn a lot more before they hit /int/

[Anonymous No.4319233]

On a porn detox and decided this also means I'm not allowed to draw lewds

So, I decided to go back to my roots and practice scenery/backgrounds but do them properly

Send me your recommendations, advice and/or crabspeak lessons please

[Anonymous No.4319238]

I cant anymore. I have been trying to draw for around 5 years now,and for the last year i feel like i havent improved one bit. Every time i try to draw something different it takes me literal hours,and it takes an ungodly amount of effort sketches included. I feel like i'm drawing in someone else's art style,i literally feel uncomfortable now while drawing,i feel like i'm not being honest with myself. Everything out of my comfort zone of drawing feels like a literal train wreck,and even when i'm done,things just look,unnutaral,like drawn by a computer,too perfect,too artificial.Should i go back to basics and restart the whole climb? I'll do anything i just to improve fuck.
Havel i drew while trying out some new techniques with new pens

[Anonymous No.4319254]

I can't decide between "Figure Drawing: Design and Invention" by Hampton and "Figure Drawing for All It's Worth" by Loomis. Can someone who has read both give me a recommendation which one is more preferable to read and why?

[Anonymous No.4319256]

>>4319121
You some kind of pussy?
Post your art where you want to.
No one can force you to go anywhere.

[Anonymous No.4319318]

>>4318850
Yes, it's called my sketchbook. It's all originals, dude.
Here's scan of todays work.

[Anonymous No.4319343]

>>4319163
Dude, it would be nice if you could be a bit more detailed, then I know what I should work on

[Anonymous No.4319346]

>>4319238
I feel the same except for the part about feeling uncomfortable. I've been at it for 5 years and I feel no progress. I spend way too long on just basic sketches to build a picture and I never get out of that stage. I'm constantly tinkering with a sketch until I get bored of it, move on, and repeat the cycle.

I don't want drawing to just be practicing. I want to create stuff but I feel so fucking limited by own skills that the only thing to do is practice gestures and figures that bore me until I'm dead. I can't find the balance in fun and studying.

[Anonymous No.4319389]

>>4319238
I personally think you should just go to the basics and trying to use what you learned. Even if you are a bit better at drawing, you always need to keep polishing your basics, the grind is basically never over. Maybe looking at references might help

[Anonymous No.4319393]

>>4319346
To you too, just use references, it helps you practice, but it's usually more fun than grinding gestures and shit and you can use some of your own creativity.
Nonetheless, you should still go do the basics once in a while, it really helps. Plus if you feel stuck, compare your previous artwork with your newer ones, you'll feel a sense of accomplishment

[Anonymous No.4319396]

Anatomy with perspective is hard, anyone got tips?

[Anonymous No.4319399]

I usually practice with references but I wanted to try something out off my memory and failed. I guess I still dont have the muscle memory or knowledge enough to paint of my imagination.

I know that there is a lot wrong with this drawing, but it would be nice if anyone pointed stuff to see if I missed it.

[Anonymous No.4319402]

>>4319396
Stop drawing lesbian shit and you'll improve.

[Anonymous No.4319410]

>>4319393
I don't mind going back to basics, I just feel stuck only doing basics. I've tried my hand at more creative works but I take too long and fall apart. I want to use reference more but I just don't wanna take a pic, 'copy' it and then just slap on some anime chick's outfit on it.

[Anonymous No.4319475]

>>4319410
drawing is just the methodical application of the fundies, everybody is going back to basics in cycles anon.

[Anonymous No.4319484]

>>4319396
jesus why are your lines so fucking heavy

[Anonymous No.4319530]

How does my robot look? I went with mitten hands since I realized my line weight made it difficult to distinguish individual fingers.

[Anonymous No.4319535]

>>4319484
what kind of fucking "advice" is that

[Anonymous No.4319557]

How do I stop accidentally drawing Picasso looking pieces of shit that I just wind up burning?

[Anonymous No.4319562]

drawing lines makes me sad

[Anonymous No.4319565]

>>4319105
Nah, just got these three from random sites on google.

[Anonymous No.4319628]

>>4319562
its ok so far. keep going. you need more mileage

[Anonymous No.4319629]

>>4318094
I feel like you're just here to humblebrag. Left image is better than almost everything that gets posted to this board. What exactly are you unhappy with?
Only real flaw I see is I feel it's a little hard to differentiate the characters from the background, the image could be made to read more clearly in that regard.

[Anonymous No.4319631]

>>4318354
What if he wanted to draw in a more stylized/cartoony way? Do you tell mangaka that they symbol draw?

[Anonymous No.4319632]

>>4319346
How many hours of practice have you accumulated over those 5 years? How many hours a day do you draw on average?

[Anonymous No.4319634]

>>4316427
u did better gesture wise and your stylisation is better but it's flat nigga look at her waist it has no form, this is mostly a perspective issue and when I say better gesture I mean better than theirs but still stiff and quasi natural

[Anonymous No.4319647]

>>4319389
Should i go back to shapes,then basic anatomy,then more complex things until i feel like trying on my own? Also i use this skeletons to draw people,are they good or bad? I've never saw anyone use them here,i feel like i make heads too big so i tried to make it smaller here with a basic shape,proportions are a bit off

[Anonymous No.4319650]

>>4318424
>which one is the right way to do it?
Neither, they are both quite terrible.
I highly recommend you actually pick up a book or watch some videos, go-to people are vilppu, huston and hampton.

[Anonymous No.4319660]

>>4318517
I know I made her head too big and the hand is kind of crap. What else to pay more attention to? Doing going though Huston's videos atm, just started the part about gesture and structure.

[Anonymous No.4319754]

found this video and then checked the channel out
seems pretty neat
might come in handy for some of you too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw19Zwv4L_Y

[Anonymous No.4319777]

[Anonymous No.4319790]

>>4319660

[Anonymous No.4319825]

>>4319629
Sometimes I feel like not having a balanced image. It mostly goes with my understanding of color (I'm bad with my values most of time) and form fluidity. I see it as a flaw to be improved, and you exactly pointed out what I have been unsure about with the left picture, but I also have issues with the visual design of the right character on it. I think I also could added more depth? Thanks anyway, I think I'll move to /Int/. no need for an excess attention.

[Anonymous No.4319846]

>>4319399

like you said. your anatomy knowledge is lacking. use ref or start studying anatomy and come back to it later

[Anonymous No.4319885]

Hey so Is there something off with the face?

[Anonymous No.4319889]

>>4319650
post some of yours otherwise i have no reason to trust you on this.
i know how a good gesture drawing looks like and I have seen the videos. its just not as easy to replicate for a beginner

[Anonymous No.4319901]

>>4319885
the fuck is with that filename
and yeah her whole head is a big sloping egg that tilts back at the wrong angle, fix the perspective

[Anonymous No.4319948]

Is learning gesture drawing more effective if you're doing lots of sloppy sketches or few refined ones?

[Anonymous No.4319976]

can someone post a link to a /beg/ discord server, I was in one months ago but quit going on it because of college, after that it shut down

[Anonymous No.4319994]

>>4319948
If you know what you're doing, fast. If you don't know what you're doing, slow.

[Musubi No.4320025]

Hey:) I'm trying to get good at gesture drawing. Could you give me some feedback? I'm going through "drawing force"

[Anonymous No.4320027]

>>4319634
>tfw this is the level of critique on /ic/

this board is a mistake

[Anonymous No.4320057]

I think I should move to /int/, what do you all think?

[Anonymous No.4320067]

>>4320027
The problem is that any kind of dumb nigger can critique anything. Saying things like "your perspective is off" or "work on your anatomy" may apply to almost everything anyone does except for masters, so it's like a blank critique that retards use to feel better about themselves.

As this is an annonymous board, the only way to work around this would be if every critique came with a redline OR the poster posted his work with his critique. Because crabs don't actually draw, this would never happen though.

[Anonymous No.4320102]

This has been my project after work for a couple of days. I tend to scrap things quite quickly so it's been hard spending so much time on one picture.

[Anonymous No.4320244]

>>4319889
>its just not as easy to replicate for a beginner
I know, I had a lot of frustrations with that as well.

I think at your stage too much "no do it this way" can actually be counter-productive and make you think that there is some magic approach and you're just not doing it right.

Despite that let me go a bit more in depth.
The best thing you can prbly do is focus on one aspect like rhytm for example and try to work on that for 2 weeks and if you feel like you're not getting anywhere move on to the next thing and try that for 2 weeks.

Your top row is too messy, it's fine to do things loosely but you should try to do that with purpose.
For example describing the entire outstretched leg with one flowing "s" curve.
In my opinion scribbly lines break the flow more than they describe it, I'm therefore not a fan of such an approach.

In your bottom row you're trying to be more clean and controlled, however the lines lack purpose/ descriptive quality.
It's like you're picking some contour lines arbitrarily and leaving others out, sort of like you're trying to create a "connect the dots" worksheet for kids.
This anon : >>4316879 posted a good image from hampton, in the first image under the "Head ICS" text It shows opposite curves flowing into one another creating a rythm and to the right of that the concept applied to the figure.
If you're unsure where to place your lines trying to understand that rythm that leads the eye through the figure will help you out.

[Anonymous No.4320250]

Does drawing flat shapes do anything when starting out, or should I just work on 3d shapes?

[Anonymous No.4320253]

Are these legs fine? I get the feeling I might have made them too big compared to the arms
>>4318784
Yup, happy to see someone spotted some similarity! Though it's just an inspiration. I also take inspiration from K & Kula with their leather tight suits and silver hair

[Anonymous No.4320270]

>>4320250
In the same vein as this, is there a chart or some kind of "worksheet" of the various shapes from different perspectives to give a direction for first starting out?

[Anonymous No.4320276]

>>4319846
Thank you for your time. I will read and practice anatomy and perspective and come back some time later.

[Anonymous No.4320283]

>>4319396
Build boxes in perspective then use that to build the bodies into simple shapes. Find references in similar poses to help you.

[Anonymous No.4320289]

Does anyone have any tips to help slow down? I'm the kind of person to watch shit on 2x speed nearly all the time, with exception to music and movies/tv shows, and my biggest problem right now is slowing down and making my lines right instead of just dashing my pencil across the page roughly in the way I want it

[Anonymous No.4320298]

>>4320244
Thanks for helping out.
I do have the hampton book where he goes in detail about this and I've been trying to follow the ICS rule and rhythm thing. But aren't the drawings you posted just contours? I don't see any real lines going over the form (wrapping lines) and in a few of them you also leave out the contour. I'll keep practicing this. Thanks again for the help.

[Anonymous No.4320306]

Fucked up the hand and knee, anything else bros?

[Anonymous No.4320341]

>>4320306
It’s decent, try making more even areas of dark and light rather than scribbling them in

[Anonymous No.4320343]

How do I start learning anatomy? What's the best resource for an absolute beginner?

[Anonymous No.4320344]

>>4320067
At the same time if you do anything wrong in your critique that might even remotely show a lack of skill you get swarmed by angry crabs. This discourages anyone who might want to give critique, as if anyone with decent skills is going to waste their time giving critique in this cesspool.

[Anonymous No.4320346]

>>4320343
If you're an absolute beginner I wouldn't recommend learning anatomy at first, unless you mean absolute beginner in anatomy.

Try some more simple subjects, hopefully that you find interesting. Still lives like fruit and bowls, rocks or small plants and so on.

[Anonymous No.4320350]

>>4320346
>unless you mean absolute beginner in anatomy
That's what I meant. Drawing fruits and objects won't make me be good at drawing people.

[Anonymous No.4320365]

>>4320289

everytime you find yourself speeding up


pinch your balls

[Anonymous No.4320370]

>>4320365
That sounds extremely inconvenient. Like, the hoops I'd have to jump through to get my fingers to my balls to be able to pinch the is just annoying.

[Anonymous No.4320371]

>>4320253

personally I think it's too thick.

also what kind of pose is she making?

[Anonymous No.4320379]

Some fan arts. Help me decide what fundie I should grind next...

[Anonymous No.4320388]

will I ever git gud anons? is there hope for me?

[Anonymous No.4320400]

>>4320371
Pose huh... True I need to change that. Originally, she was doing a "character sheet" pose, with the arm extended just because.
But I turned it into a finger gun, now I think I'll make it more dynamic, it just looks stiff.

Too thick? Yeah I kinda notice that

[Anonymous No.4320402]

>>4320379

perspective and figure drawing

[Anonymous No.4320413]

I tried some figures from the figure drawing thread on here. I read dynamic figure drawing and I feel like it’s helping me a lot.

[Anonymous No.4320415]

>>4320413

[Anonymous No.4320420]

>>4319238
>>4319346
If you're posting on /beg/ then you haven't been drawing for 5 years. Basically this >>4319632
What I'm trying to say is with properly structured and continuous practice will bring huge results. Fucking around and drawing on and off will make you stagnate in the novice stage.

[Anonymous No.4320422]

>>4320402
Thanks Anon. I'll queue up some figure drawing vids next I think.

[Anonymous No.4320424]

>>4319557
L____s

[Anonymous No.4320426]

>>4319976
How did you do in college? Whats your career outlook?

[Anonymous No.4320428]

>>4320025
These are pretty good anon , keep grinding.

[Anonymous No.4320434]

>>4320343
>>4320350
Any help with this?

[Anonymous No.4320441]

>>4320289
Draw after a long hard day of physical activity, preferably after you take a hot shower.
You'll give all your attention to every line then.

[Anonymous No.4320444]

>>4319790
that arm looks very bad, stiff ant flat
another issue related to the arm's problem is the table. It should not be that tall, just look at how you yourself sit, you probably dont need to bend your arm like that, your arm kind of lies down from your shoulder when you're writing

[Anonymous No.4320446]

>>4320343
>>4320434
Read the sticky.

>>4320388
Keep grinding brah

[Anonymous No.4320453]

>>4320343
Loomis/Vilppu/Hampton/Bridgman
Pick one and stick with it

[Anonymous No.4320456]

rate.

[Anonymous No.4320462]

>>4320441
fair. Thanks

[Anonymous No.4320465]

>>4320426
I transferred in October, so everything is basically the same just in a different country, but its going well and am enjoiying it :^)

[Anonymous No.4320471]

>half of this thread is faggots whining and asking for psychological advices instead of posting their shit and getting technical info on where to improve
this is exactly why you're never going to make it

>b-but boho i cant draw im so sad i have no motivation :(((((((((((((((((((
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.4320476]

>>4320471
pyw

[Anonymous No.4320477]

>>4320298
>But aren't the drawings you posted just contours?
No, not just.
Contours are the outer details, gesture is the flow / relationship of the forms.
The overall flow is still there.
When someone says "you're drawing the contour and not the gesture" what they mean is that you're drawing the outer details while ignoring the overall flow.

>I don't see any real lines going over the form (wrapping lines)
I don't know what you're talking about, they're absolutely there. Perhaps not plastered absolutely everywhere where I could have possibly placed them, but these where timed so I like to be economical.

>and in a few of them you also leave out the contour.
You're prbly talking about the first 1min ones, which means I probably didn't have the time and focused on the (for gesture) important bits first, which is flow and rythm.

[Anonymous No.4320481]

>>4320476

[Anonymous No.4320490]

>>4320456
These look like characters from a British animated sitcom that'd get cancelled after one season.

[Anonymous No.4320494]

>>4320490
did you think your post was funny when you clicked post? honestly

[Anonymous No.4320502]

>>4320477
ok thanks for the explanation and pointers

[Anonymous No.4320542]

so i tried again with the hampton technique in mind and what i was told in this thread. this time i tried really hard not to copy to contours. if it is still wrong then idk

[Anonymous No.4320550]

>>4320253
>>4320371
Made her less thick but I still don't know what to do with the art. Is it fine like that?

[Anonymous No.4320567]

Got some Cartoon Network rejects lol.
They missed the action cartoon craze from the early 2000s.

[Anonymous No.4320571]

>>4320420
I have been drawing for 5 years,i'm still shit nonetheless. I didnt really have direction like a guide tho so i just drew and tried to make what i drew look good,i try to at least draw a sketch a day and to improve in something but It's hard to find the time when i can actually concentrate hard on it

[Anonymous No.4320647]

fucking damn it man

[Anonymous No.4320677]

Still a WIP, but I think I'm getting somewhere.

[Anonymous No.4320705]

>>4320571
have u tried to read loomis?

[Anonymous No.4320718]

What's better?
>short 10-30 min sessions
>long multiple hour long sessions
At least when it comes to actually retaining what it is that you're trying to practice/learn

[Anonymous No.4320719]

how's my forms?

[Anonymous No.4320721]

>>4320719
A bit stiff

[Anonymous No.4320725]

>>4320494
Yeah.

[Anonymous No.4320729]

>>4320718
focused repetitions.

put yourself a simple goal you can test, like drawing the eye, then repeat it like 30 times but focus on the construction and shit and spend twice the effort on it, always using reference then repeat for some days until you can do it from memory.

[Anonymous No.4320736]

>>4320647
keep grinding anon
you can do it
the only thing that can come after failure is success

[Anonymous No.4320765]

form the imagination, inspired by ModeSeven777

[Anonymous No.4320817]

>>4320765
>ModeSeven777
Is that gonna be an arm that transforms into a slimy penis with lips instead of a proper urethra?

[Anonymous No.4320948]

I AM EVOLVING but help pls. I can feel the painting is terribly done, though I like how it looks from a distance.
I guess it isn't a problem if you can't easily notice.

[Anonymous No.4320962]

[Anonymous No.4320977]

What am im doing wrong on the hand umbrella and the closer leg im not understanding

[Anonymous No.4321020]

>>4320977

[Anonymous No.4321050]

>>4320817
hahahha no, im not a fan of his stuff but i like his style of rendering

[Anonymous No.4321102]

I can't tell if I'm getting better or worse as I go down
I am just trying to copy what I see from the book rather than doing my own heads for the moment

[Anonymous No.4321137]

What should I fix/add/remove to this to make it better? (besides shading and centering her)

[Anonymous No.4321160]

I absolutely suck at anime facial anatomy but I'm hoping that drawing from a different angle disguised that a bit. Any advice on getting it right (or recommendations on textbooks for real or anime anatomy) would be appreciated.

I also need to practice the fundamentals more and stop drawing weeb trash. But weeb trash flows out of my head more often than the things I should be practicing, so even though I'm having fun I feel like I'm not really improving on a technical level. Is there a middle ground somewhere between practice and drawing for pleasure, or should I just hunker down and start grinding more often regardless of what I want to draw?

>>4318954
>>4318981
This infographic and advice is gonna come in handy because I was trying unsuccessfully to figure out what I needed to grind on my own. Thank you, Anons.

[Anonymous No.4321236]

>>4320444
Good catch. Dunno if it can be changed now but will take note of where the table is in relation to the torso and what a more natural angle for the arm would be.

[Anonymous No.4321251]

How do I deal with wanting to learn drawing when what I want to draw is technically illegal in my puritanical country? Genuine question. The thought of spending years learning a skill only to get put in jail for it is kinda hilarious, but a bit of a downer. I see oppai lolis on Twitter and it stays up, somehow. What's the deal? If I wanted to be a known artist, would I have to post art with sex elsewhere?

[Anonymous No.4321253]

>>4321251
Also I feel like furry stuff tends to have more leeway. Am I just automatically safe if I slap a furry aesthetic on it?

[Anonymous No.4321274]

>>4320102
youre working past your skilllevel. you are not ready for finished pieces yet. or color. or value. or faces. or, well anything. focus on these things first. learning those will be a fun journey

[Anonymous No.4321275]

>>4320677
you need to learn how the human body works

[Anonymous No.4321330]

>>4321275
Not him but the actual painting has a midget arm.

[Anonymous No.4321407]

>>4320705
Not really, again,i didnt start with a guide,but i found that how i construct faces is pretty similar,should i read it?

[Anonymous No.4321409]

>>4321275
I know, but this isn't an anatomy exercise.

>>4321330
The subject of that painting was a midget so it makes sense.

[Anonymous No.4321545]

>>4320465
Good luck bro, we will both make it.

[Anonymous No.4321548]

>>4320494
Yes.

[Anonymous No.4321552]

>>4321251
Your country is based and you should feel ashamed.

[Anonymous No.4322536]

>>4321552
based reply

[Anonymous No.4322539]

I've set a goal for myself to fill one page a day starting yesterday. What am I doing wrong/right? I already know I need to slow down and take more time.

[Anonymous No.4323105]

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