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>Gets first commission
>Makes it
So long artcels, my time has come

>> No.4307675
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NOOOO GET BACK HERE

>> No.4307726
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>>4307651
Fuck you
Im halfway done with my porn comm sheet and just getting started on my normal comm sheet when i get home
Check it boys im finally jewing out.
I'll be able to buy MH World AND pay all my bills in a week if I get lucky.

>> No.4307761

>>4307726
25$ daim. I was drawing some trash stuff for double that.

>> No.4307762
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>>4307726
Im charging almost triple these rates and its all respectable sfw work that I enjoy making, pornfags who told me that sfw was a meme have officially been BTFO

>> No.4307794

>gets chargeback scammed

>> No.4307797

>>4307726
>Not even charging minimum wage
>Jewing out

>> No.4307800

>>4307762
Your art is probably 10+ times as good though, that doesn't prove anything about how much money nsfw makes.

>> No.4307807

>>4307762
>>4307797
Okay wise guys how much should i charge then

>> No.4307808

>>4307762
>frogposter
>good at drawing
>good at anything

keep dreaming faggot, you only come here to post your retraded frogs and larp.

>> No.4307810

>>4307726
>NSFW comms
>no scat, gore, vore, or feet
Good luck, pal

>> No.4307813

>>4307808
post your art then

>> No.4307814

>>4307807
O shit I just remembered
I was initially basing my sheet off Inkertons stuff. His works not too farm off from my own at this point...i think Ive gotten better at least.
When i get home, Im gonna make these prices as high as I can within reason and see if I get any retards dumb enough to buy my scribbles.

>> No.4307818

>>4307810
I have not seen any nsfw artist outside of deviantart or 4chan drawing scat or vore.
Anti foot stuff is just my personal preference.

>> No.4307910

>>4307818
>putting preference before work
don't do that, you should do what I do, I have a name for all my sfw stuff I enjoy drawing and want to get known by drawing them but they give very little revenue, all my revenue comes from my other artist name where nothing is off limits and I make the bank, it's a win win, you draw degenerate shit but you will never receive any infamy as you're doing it under a fake name.

>> No.4307933

>>4307808
T. Seething coomer

>> No.4307955

>>4307808
I'm a frogposter and I'm serialised lol fuck you

>> No.4307974

>>4307726
>porn/nsfw comms

Any reason why these shouldn't be called cooms, as in coommissions?

>> No.4307983

>>4307974
Because c**mposting is done by angery toasties, trannies, and testlets

>> No.4307988

>>4307910
But I don't want to draw feces and feet.

>> No.4308064

>>4307726
>full rendered work for $30
your art must be pretty low quality to begin with if you consider this "jewing out". Most porn artists charge at least double that

>> No.4308093

>>4308064
As someone really bad, "fully rendered" means 30+ hours for me, these are literally third world slave labor rates, maybe lower.

>> No.4308139

>>4307726
30 bucks for your beg tier crap? you're a real thief anon.

>> No.4308155

>>4308093
pyw

>> No.4308160

>>4308155
Why would I? Just so you can say "hah, any /beg/ can paint that in 2 hours! You suck!" No thanks.

>> No.4308163

>>4308139
Begs gotta eat too

>> No.4308167
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>>4308160
no im unironically curious what kind of hentai stuff would take 30+ hours to make
like, would this take you 30+ hours to do?

>> No.4308170

>>4307762
>respectable sfw work that I enjoy making
Seems like someone has a superiority complex.

>> No.4308173

>>4307651
pyw

>> No.4308174

>>4308167
Why this abominations are allowed to get a patreon, look a this piece of steaming shit, why someone would decide "i'm gonna pay this dude to get something like this" and i'm more than sure this asshat charges at least 100 bucks for this, fuck this world, is full of retards

>> No.4308175

>>4308174
Based

>> No.4308176
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4308176

>>4308167
Okay then, this pic definitely took me more than 30h and nobody would consider this finished.
I think I can't render like what you posted unless I'm copying someone, so yeah.

>> No.4308183

Well geez sorry for not charging so much money
Im American you fools
Just never taken commissions before
Ive always liked the idea but when it became time to actually do it, i nevee got past the idea of it instead of actually doing it

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>>4308174
idk, for me personally his stuff looks decent enough for your typical hentai patreon

>> No.4308235

>>4308209
I agree in terms of rendering, but the drawing is definitely below average.

>> No.4308251

>>4308235
This
>>4308176
>30 hours to make an unfinished mermaid with wonky anatomy and corpse like looking skin

This is why you have to practice fundamentals first, thoose 30 hours most surely are 28 hours guessing and shooti g to the dark and 2 hours of actual conciouss drawing.

>> No.4308258

>>4308209
Are you joking? looks like average trash.

>> No.4308285

>>4308167
if we talking only render (without drawing) then this one would take 6-8 hours for /beg/gar like me and 1.5-2 hours for experienced artist

>> No.4308333

>>4308258
>>4308235
>if its not the best it shouldn't have a patreon
it still definitely took him thousands of hours to get to the point where he could draw like that, you guys are distorted as fuck (and he most definitely draws better than you). masters arent the only ones who will make money in the business, of course, but you already know this and seethe

>> No.4308347

>>4307910
lmao you do that because your a weak faggot that's probably not that good at drawing. I love the dumb niggers on /ic/ that try to bait people into doing shit that'll burn them out in the short term just for a couple extra dollars. >>4307988
Don't listen to the anon above. As long as your nice and steadly improving, you'll start to get people commissioning your work.

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>>4307651
>tfw you've never had a commission because of your disdain over normies.

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>>4308174

>> No.4308566
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>>4308167
>what kind of hentai stuff would take 30+ hours to make
only books and animations
>like, would this take you 30+ hours to do?
2 hours tops if you know what you're doing
>make a few curves
>or trace a reference and exaggerate proportions
>huge anime eyes
>small arrow for nose
>small unrealistic mouth
>because weebs
>fill in the color
>use airbrush on tits
>do some highlights
>only work on the naked body
>don't even consider clothing and such
pretty obvious how the clothing and the hair in this piece are underworked compared to the skin
>nobody will even notice because HNNGG
Most anime titties are bland as shit
only absolute retards or porn addicts would pay for this garbage
>inb4 any attempt at discredit this post
if a filthy beg like me can get this is 5 minutes than it isn't really the skill of the work that sells but just the titties
And you don't need much to be able to sell sex to men

>> No.4308574

>people always ask me if i do commissions
>no
>don't know how to baypass the paypal burger bank only shit

you burgers are so privileged unironically

>> No.4308577

>>4308566
>pretends he knows what hes talking about
>shits out low effort image as if it proves his point
>despite it looking much worse than anything that actually gets patrons
people here just love to pretend everything is so easy. yeah maybe you can deduce a pattern, but can you replicate success? can you even draw anime eyes, which your image clearly does not suggest? reminds me of people who shit on artists like picasso, saying his works are so simple and easy and shit. but then they couldn't simplify a design into 3 strokes in an attractive way themselves, because that takes development and practice which they themselves never deem worth doing. but its way more interesting than just a photocopy

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>>4308577
>implying i should waste 1 hour to do anime titties nobody paid for to prove an argument on a zimbownian zebra breeding image sharing forum
>HURR ITS NOT THE SAME IMAGE DURR
drawing is easy if you're not retarded
and pretending selling porn is hard business in the current era is just a fake argument because retards like you who get money for being mediocre that pretend they're working hard so that they don't kill themselves have existed since the dawn of humanity
And speaking of humans:
You don't need to be a great salesman to sell bananas to monkeys
But good you can't into abstracts, retard
now gtfo my board

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>> No.4308662

>>4308635
so, suddenly it takes effort to do what successful porn artists do? when your point at the end of your post is that its so easy, and use your crappy doodle as a proof of that, then yeah it should be at least on par with what you are trying to claim is effortless. all this post proves is that it takes more effort than you disingenuously try and claim

>> No.4308681 [DELETED] 

why is p*oko so sexy mey felas? haha

i am an usual user btw

>> No.4308683
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>>4308662
>drawing for 1 hour is effort
>still trying to argue porn doesn't sell itself
>calls others disingenous
bland bait
>SUCCESSFUL
yikes
>crappy doodle
basically the same image

>> No.4308707

>>4308683
>i-its not effort its just too much of a pain in the ass to actually back up my shitpost
youve contradicted yourself. suddenly an hour of effort isn't worth even minimum wage, probably because, as you said yourself, you are /beg/ tier and do not value your effort. something like the original image could be worth 10 bucks, even if it really only took them 1 hour (and even though your original post said 2 hours, i like how this window is getting smaller), since its contracted labor. however there are better artists you could contract to spend 1 hour on work, so maybe someone wouldn't hire that artist because it also is clearly low skilled. but i dont see why someone should get less than minimum wage for their efforts in art, if something takes them 8 hours for example whats wrong with asking for 80 dollars? people dont have to pay that obviously, it has to be worth that much to them too. so maybe the artist needs to learn to draw that same image twice as fast so he can charge half the amount and so on. but its not as easy to learn to do something like that as you pretend

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4308716

>>4308707
>tldr; you're legit retarded
i ain't going to draw you titties for free

>> No.4308726

>>4307651
art celibate?
that literally makes no sense.

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>>4308716
>makes a claim
>now is crying and dumping his wojak folder because someone asks him to back it up
why even make your initial post if you never had a real point? you are the definition of a crab, just trying to drag people down to your clearly inferior level

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>>4308727
>haha u a crustace u mus b jelly
>completely ignoring talking points
>completely dealing in absolutes and literal sense
>tunnel vision cuz titties in bread
im still not going to draw you anime titties for free
>implying he isn't the real crab by trying to drag other anons to his own retardation
god, how pathetic

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>>4308729
>completely ignoring talking points
>despite my posts actually arguing your points
>and yours downright ignoring mine with a tl;dr and a wojak
i won and im done

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>>4308733
>he won the argument
i hope you're going to commission me agains

>> No.4308756

Seeing this thread I think I have to raise my pricing, can't believe this horrible anime garbage cost the same as what I do which is niche and while not pro level, way better technically in any aspect.

>> No.4308993

>>4308566
You know you can easily win this argument by posting one of your drawings that you worked 1h+ on, but we all know you won't because it's way worse than these >>4308167
>>4308209

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>>4308993
it's always going to be worse because then you faggots have to agree with me but you won't unless
>it's technical perfection
which no matter what it won't be
>i show i much i earn
>i'm known
So it doesn't matter
also
>winning the argument
Why are you retards arguing the obvious?
>"Tits sell themselves"
>NO PYW I MAKE MORE MONEY THAN YOU I AM BETTTER STOOOPP SAYING BAD WORDS
you retards will never learn and it fills me with joy seeing you struggle to become real people

>> No.4309068

>>4308170
I respect all (good) artists equally, but only if they enjoy what they make, nsfw or otherwise.

>> No.4309182

>>4309044
just post it you faggot

>> No.4309184

>>4308258
average compared to what? looks like most pics on gelbooru meaning its good enough for most coomers which is obviously the target audience

>> No.4309466

>>4308635
Why is this a picture of a coombrain telling a coombrain to shut up?

>> No.4309557
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4309557

>>4308174
Desperate people looking for friends
>I gave him money and he said my name :)
Same thing with people who are subscribing on twitch

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>>4309557
>^_^

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>>4309182
>>4309466
all it took was a scribble of two titties and you retards are pestering me to draw you free anime titties
Stop trying so hard, you're never going to be better than me

>> No.4309728

>>4308167
At that quality I can do it in 30 minutes.

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4309732

>>4308167
me? five minutes. dont even need to sketch this out, gunna kjg this shit

>> No.4309829

>>4309725
pyw

>> No.4309865

>>4309829
pyw

>> No.4309898

>>4309725
What the fuck are you talking about?
I'm the second quoted and I'm just asking the sense on that pic.

>> No.4309927

>>4309898
It means you're actually really retarded, mate

>> No.4310012

the state of this board

>> No.4310071

>>4308167>>4308209
>>4308566

this absolute shit

>> No.4310078
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4310078

Drink Water.

>> No.4310841

>>4309865
Why would i? I never critiqued anybody or said that drawing is easy

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>>4309732
based frog better than 98.10124728% of /ic/

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>>4310841
>he can't do better than this
>>4308566
then you admit you're retarded then

>> No.4310997

>>4310950
Why are you so afraid of posting your work?

>> No.4311027

When I first started earning, I earned 400 usd on my first month. Thats a lot in my third world country, I was earning 500 usd a month previously at my IT dayjob that I quit to draw. At that moment I thot that I made it. I couldn't been more wrong. It tapered off, and now I'm earning 200~ a month, and no improvements so far. I couldn't even return to my first month's numbers.

>> No.4311283

>>4311027
Brazil?

>> No.4311287

>>4311283
Ukraine

>> No.4311289

>>4311287
Same thing but colder. We're doomer brothers.

>> No.4311291
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4311291

Are you ready?

>> No.4311293

>>4307726
>I'll be able to buy MH World
What do you main you fucking faggot?

>> No.4311298

>>4311287
give me a quick rundown on ukraine's current relations with russia

>> No.4311308

>>4311298
war

>> No.4311313

>>4311298
A quick rundown:
>Rothschilds bow to Bogdanoffs
>In contact with aliens
>Possess psychic-like abilities
>Control france with an iron but fair fist
>Own castles & banks globally
>Direct descendants of the ancient royal blood line
>Will bankroll the first cities on Mars (Bogdangrad will be be the first city)
>Own 99% of DNA editing research facilities on Earth
>First designer babies will in all likelihood be Bogdanoff babies
>both brothers said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence on Earth has only existed deep in Tibetan monasteries & Area 51
>Ancient Indian scriptures tell of two angels who will descend upon Earth and will bring an era of enlightenment and unprecedented technological progress with them
>They own Nanobot R&D labs around the world
>You likely have Bogdabots inside you right now
>The Bogdanoffs are in regular communication with the Archangels Michael and Gabriel, forwarding the word of God to the Orthodox Church. Who do you think set up the meeting between the pope & the Orthodox high command (First meeting between the two organisations in over 1000 years) and arranged the Orthodox leader's first trip to Antarctica in history literally a few days later to the Bogdanoff bunker in Wilkes land?
>They learned fluent French in under a week
>Nation states entrust their gold reserves with the twins. There's no gold in Ft. Knox, only Ft. Bogdanoff
>The twins are about 7 decades old, from the space-time reference point of the base human currently accepted by our society
>In reality, they are timeless beings existing in all points of time and space from the big bang to the end of the universe. We don't know their ultimate plans yet. We hope they're benevolent beings

>> No.4311620

>>4310997
I'm not trying to prove anything. You're feeling threatened for some odd reason.
pyw and prove that you're better than me
but wait, you ain't, nigga

>> No.4312630

>>4311620
Lmao, hit the nerve? You sound butthurt as fuck

>> No.4312642

>>4311293
Greattosworddo

>> No.4312743

>>4312630
>You sound
>no u
the mindgames holy shit
still not gonna draw you free titties, fag

>> No.4312884
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4312884

I signed a contract for 7k this morning. Workload is about 2-3 weeks.

Anyone can make it, it's just a matter of dedication and patience and a modicum of stress tolerance.

>> No.4312890

>>4312743
Its not our fault that you're a faggot that can't leave /beg/ for years you know

>> No.4312891

>>4312884
>I signed a contract for 7k this morning.
Contract for what?

>> No.4312892

>>4312891
lewd porn is my guess

>> No.4312894

>>4312892
Well he must be drawing a whole fucking dojin then if he's going to be paid 7k

>> No.4312912
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4312912

Hey OP draw me a cool robot, You draw robots right?

>> No.4312925

>>4312884
nice disjointed shoulder, 7ksenpai
but at least there are anime titties to be seen so who gives a shit?

>> No.4313090

>>4312891

Art for a porn game.

>>4312925

The tolerance for broken joints and nonsensical anatomy amongst the normie consumer is practically infinite so long as the rendering is halfway decent and there's nice tits and ass to focus on. It's really true.

>> No.4313140

>>4313090
What program do you use?

>> No.4313399

>>4313140

always photoshop

>> No.4313417

>>4308574
same

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>>4307651
>try commissions for the first time
>get a message after one day
>so nervous i force myself to finally read the message
>its just some random person asking where to find my art despite my links to my art in my profile description
>discouraged, wait a few more days before deciding that i had failed and would learn some more to try again when better

>few months later, decide its time to try again
>again message after one day
>nervous as fuck all over again
>breathe bro breathe
*click*
>random profile with no art on it asking if i want to work on a collaborative project
i dont think im gunna make it bros

>> No.4314057

>>4307762
Good job man. Keep going!

>> No.4314061

>>4307910
You can have the most unrelated alias you want, your name will still remain on the canvas because of your brushstrokes...

>> No.4314069

>>4311027
You should have kept your job AND do commissions. A job is more regular, so safer.

>> No.4314070

>>4311293
Buy MHGU if it's not already done.

>> No.4314075

>>4314061
this is only true if you have a particularly unique artstyle

>> No.4314078

>>4309184
whats a coomer

>> No.4314121

hey, newfag here, where do you guys even put your commission sheets? Patreon? Fiver? Insta? ...deviantart?

>> No.4314162

>>4314121
Everywhere that doesn't outlaw shilling yourself
no rules

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4314176

LMAO drawing porn for a living. Must be funny and jizz worthy.

Anyone want me to draw porn for you? I only do full colors. $50USD per piece.

>> No.4314183

>>4314162
>have to spend 3 hours uploading to 20 different sites with tags
man, is there a fucking program that does this for you?

>> No.4314211

>>4314176
Hello no

>> No.4314218

>>4314183
Hootsuite

>> No.4314221

>>4314211
You jelly you can't paint like me?

I'm don't even need to practice painting. I'm just talented. That is my 3rd digital painting.

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>>4314069
I couldn't. I was burning out hard. I was basically working, then going back home, working again, and then sleeping only to wake up and go to work. If I didn't quit the job, I would never even reach the commissionable state of the art. I had to choose, and I went for a dream because yolo.

>> No.4314288

Wish I can get commissions, but I almost never finish stuff.

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>>4308566

>the only way a person could be this way

you poor thing <3

43m22s17

>> No.4314304

>>4314221
You are boring man, your shitpost is boring.

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4314492

>>4307675
DON'T LET HIM GET AWAY CRAB BROS

>> No.4314507

Hey anons who do commissions, what do you use to receive the money? I'm trying to find a way to get paid without being forced to reveal my name and email to the buyer

>> No.4314555

>>4314303
Could use work on the anatomy but your colors are pretty unique and nice

>> No.4314647

>>4314507
can an anon answer this please??

>> No.4314814

Congrats anon

>> No.4315064

>>4314507
>>4314647

paypal. there is no anonymous alternative. you could do crypto but you won't find any commissioners.

for lewd commissions there is no way around paypal and just living with the fact that your commissioners know your irl name.

>> No.4315145

>>4314507
>>4315064
This. Think about if you're successful with your nsfw commissions; you got to file for taxes at some point whether you want it or not.
Somebody correct me if i'm wrong but, instead of doing direct commission, you could do a patreon and i don't think people will find out your name since you get your money from patreon instead.
Unless you're underage, in that case, wait until you're at full legal age. The government, paypal and your bank will always know where you get your money from, though.

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>>4307651

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4315156

>>4315145
I will never pay taxes for selling something I made
Literally robbing me at that point
Also, fuck all those long noses. They can keep rifling through all the smut they want. I ain't a ashamed.

>> No.4315185
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>>4315156
Enjoy jail then

>> No.4315308

>>4315156
DO IT, dont pay tax and see what happens to you faggot.

>> No.4315549

>>4315156
unironically dodge them and make paypigs SEETHE

>> No.4315583

>>4315156
lol don't get audited bro.

>> No.4316397

>>4315145
>>4315064
isnt cashapp anonymous?

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>>4315156

>> No.4316453

>>4308209
This would be SO much better if he knew how to draw better faces at all.

>> No.4316721

>>4315156
I like how literally nobody in these threads will talk about tax shit and how it works because smart people will never ever fucking in their life reveal how they do their taxes and how the money world works, partly because retards like this won't listen anyway.

>> No.4316744

>>4314267
I did the same. There's not enough time and energy to do both. Just getting ready to work and the trip there already takes too much.

>> No.4316765

>>4316721
I mean it depends on where you live. Where I live you must pay 1/3 of your earnings into taxes as a freelance artist.

>> No.4316775

>>4311027
If you're really good you should be charging more for your commissions. I charge $250-$350 just for a 11"x9" graphite drawing.

>> No.4316843

>>4316775
Example of your work or something similar?
Also what is your follower count, does that contribute to how much you can charge at all?

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>>4315549
damn straight
>>4315185
>>4316419
>>4315583
>>4316721
Enjoy giving up the hard earned wacky bucks you recieved slaving away spending years of your short life learning how to draw giving it to the government for things that do not involve you and do not support you in any tangible way

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>>4316843
I'm not about to post clients shit because it's personal to them, or go get out my portfolio from storage and photograph it right now just for 4chan, so something on a similar level is this. Except I only use graphite in the whole piece, no charcoal to speed it up or because I can't get dark tones. My pencils don't get shiny they stay as matte as possible. My black tones are BLACK not this sketchy bullshit full of holes. Fill in all the holes.

I don't have a website or blog (I probably should), I just get commissions locally. People give me a few references of shit if needed but I don't go photocopy mode on their refs. If its a person they'll be making a different expression or they'll be in a totally different pose at a different angle. One graphite commission I did recently was someones prize buck on their hunting grounds, they didn't have a picture of the pose they wanted so they gave me a few photos to give an idea of his likeness from different angles, I sketched out a few poses and compositions for him, they picked one, I drew it, happy customers.

I charge by the sq inch for graphite work. If its small it's cheaper, if it's large it's more expensive. Unfortunately, people don't understand that it takes way more careful skill than painting does, so its valued lower even though it's tedious and takes much more time and skill. I make more from paintings I spend days to a week and less expensive supplies on than I do with a graphite piece of the same size that takes me about 3 weeks to bust out.

People seem to think good graphite and paper is less expensive than good enough paint and canvas. So there's a limit to how much I can charge for that shit. Unless it's ungodly levels of complexity (it usually isn't) I have to go by the rates people will realistically pay.

Anyways sorry for the rant. Charge what the value of your work is, consider how long it takes, material cost, and expertise. Followers don't matter. I make a living with 0.

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>>4315156
Based
Why would I give money to niggers?

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>>4315156
absolute madlad

>> No.4318165

>>4315156
fucking based

>> No.4318192

>>4315156
Absolutely based

>> No.4318340

>>4316765

where's that ?

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>>4307675
>>4314492
We can’t let him get away with this!11

>> No.4319356

ok people
>do nsfw for a while, decent following
>sell comms
>tumblr dies
>lose interest in nsfw, stop comms
>start sfw twitter
>no following
>would like to do comms again
What do I do

>> No.4319411

>>4319356
You suck and the porn isn't there to mask it anymore, that's literally it.

>> No.4319418

Hey /ic/hads, I need some advice. I take commissions, recently I've got a few orders and I managed to actually finish them without cancelling and shamefully wiping my existence from online for a few years again. But there is this one potential customer now, who wants me to draw several (around 15ish) characters to draw for their 'project'. I haven't even seen the refs for the characters, even tho I asked for them, but they're already suggesting to give them discounts. As a fellow thirdworlder I'm willing to do that, but like what percentage should I go down on the prices, that is the question? We're talking about 20$ per chara, so I'm a bit skeptical what price would even fit for someone who thinks that'd be too much for a character.

>> No.4320616

>>4319418
I wouldn't do it. That's a massive project and the customer doesn't seem trustworthy. If you had worked with him before itd be a different story

>> No.4320625

>>4319418
If they're doing a big project AND asking for discounts just say no dude. You're not obligated to take on a huge workload for cheap.

>> No.4321016

>>4308176
that is not how hair works anon

>> No.4321073

>>4308577
>his image was intended to be good
Its satirical you vat of feces.