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4296817 No.4296817 [Reply] [Original]

Seriously, why is the western art community so fucking shit? Is there any way we can fix this problem?

>> No.4296831

>>4296817
That's because Eastern artists are all NGMI.
Drama is a GMI trait.

>> No.4296832

>>4296817
The grass is always greener on the other side

>> No.4296838
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4296838

Stop pretending nip internet is different, the only reason you’d think nips are more supportive is that they don’t give a shit about you and nobody wants to go out of their way to tell some gaijin retard his art is garbage, so you only deal with the positive comments.
>muh organs
See pic

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>eastern art community
>on twitter
>in english

>> No.4296845

>>4296817
>wholesome
I agree with everything except this. In fact, them not caring about pushing this on anyone else is part of why of they're good.

>> No.4296849

>>4296838
Japs are a bunch of assholes to the Chinese and I'm sure they're the same to anyone who isn't Jap. These people aren't genuinely more wholesome than any other race, it's just that we only see what they want us to see--which is the wholesome hardworking shit. Go look at the 4chan for chinks and tell me they're not any more degenerate than us. (I forgot the actual website name.)

>> No.4296852

>>4296838
That's hilarious.

>> No.4296872

>>4296838
>that pic
based

>> No.4296884

>>4296838
lmao

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>>4296842
>日本語おk intensifies

>> No.4296896

>>4296817
Imagine thinking the eastern art community isn't full of constant stupid drama
Weebs act like massive backlash over drawing a character wrong/with poor anatomy is a western exclusive thing when if anything it gets arguably worse over there

>> No.4296898

>>4296817
>western art community
dumb tumblrinas and faggot webcomic illustrators =/= "western art community"

>> No.4296901

>>4296838
I remember when some coomer poster said Craig Mullins should learn how to paint sexy women and he basically replied he just fucks them instead. Based

>> No.4296907

>>4296898
Exactly, there's no western art community other than gallery snobs.
Fat virgins on twitter are nothing but scum that can't do math so they think they must be good at drawing

>> No.4296910

>>4296849
>I'm sure they're the same to anyone who isn't Jap

Hasn't been my experience at all. A lot of the Japanese people I mutually follow on Twitter have been very friendly to me. Even the non-mutual ones if I post positive comments on their art. I don't care if they like chinks or not but I've never seen a good artist being Chinese stop them from having 1000s of Japanese followers.

>> No.4296911

>>4296817
jewish social movements that pit women vs men, black vs white, gay vs straight, etc.

the ride never ends.

>> No.4296914

>>4296896
A chinese artist I'm following was blocked from weibo because he got reported repeatedly

>> No.4296936

>>4296901
Sick burn, but I doubt Mullins managed to get it up in the last 20 years. The guy is the same age as Huston and looks like Steve’s alcoholic chain smoker older uncle.

>> No.4296959

If you participate in all that retarded drama willingly then dont complain about it, nobody forcing you to read all these comments on twitter
you all look the same to people who mind their own business and draw instead of wasting time, no matter how high of a moral ground you think you have over someone on twitter

>> No.4296968

>>4296849
Everyone hates Chinese people. They're rude, have absolutely no fucking morals and theres a billion of them. They're especially bad in foreign countries/communities where they have no respect for anyone, steal shit and just generally fuck everything up. Just look at the retards in Hong Kong, decades ago they would riot against British governance and wanted so badly to be reunited with the rest of the hivemind. Now they make shitty anthems, riot against the CCP and demand western visas/citizenship so they can go fuck up shit elsewhere.

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>>4296896
>>4296914
I wonder if anyone ever posted a thread about the drama from the chinese artist Rei_17? I happened to discover it while searching google for her brush settings. It's more known in the chinese art community because she primarily uses Weibo.

>Accussed of "Ilya-like" plagarism and tracing
>Bullies smaller artists so much they delete their accounts.

https://imgur.com/a/4O6Nxtv

There's DEFINITELY drama in the eastern art community too. It's just harder for westerners to find because it happens on other sites and the artists maintain different personalities on twitter

>> No.4297030

>>4296936
Well, that comment was made almost 20 years ago now that I think of it.

>> No.4297039

>>4296983
the examples are vastly different or maybe share remotely similar concepts so idk about that. Also ilya literally copy pasted illustrations or screenshot paint overs.

But her bullying smaller artists, really?

>> No.4297048

>>4296983
also were you able to find the brush setting you were looking for

>> No.4297059

>>4296983
>for a man to draw danmei (bl) that's disgusting
But wait? I thought Rei was a fujoshi?

>> No.4297063

>>4296983
>>4297048
Asking the real questions here. Give me some of that brush setting, help a bro out

>> No.4297073

>>4296831
Other than Leonardo and Michael Angelo's unressolved sexual tension and Picasso's live by the dick die by the dick shenanigans, western artists of note are not known for drama. That's a musicians thing.

>> No.4297077

>>4297059
Fujos are misandrist? Who would have guessed?

>> No.4297088

>>4296983
Isn't Rei infamous for having an iconic style but also being a shitty person? Something about her insulting FGO players but then makes art for a craft essence (equipment basically), being a fujo but disliking the guys who are into the same thing, etc

>> No.4297092

>>4297077
>misandry
>real

>> No.4297101

>>4297088
>being a fujo but disliking the guys who are into the same thing, etc
I mean, I’m into tomgirls and I dislike fags, it’s not anything strange.

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>>4297039
>>4297059
>>4297088
Big Leddit thread with all the juicy drama here

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/cprx5w/finally_some_good_food/ewr7v8i/

>>4297048
>>4297063

But so this thread won't be completely useless I'll post the brush settings I found. They're Sai brush settings. I think she uses CSP now? Found it ironically from a old /ic/ thread

>> No.4297115

>>4296983
Chinese artist drama is nuts

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>>4297111

>> No.4297122

>>4296885
Pic source?

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>>4297120
>the pic in the original post

>> No.4297131

>>4296838
Oda is the best.

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>>4297129

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>>4297122
Solomon Eyes, from Kanako Mandala.
Pretty good art in my opinion.

>> No.4297155

>>4296817
You are never going to "fix" western culture to where it will accept your porn and lolis.

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>>4297122
Also, the catgirl is Joanna D'Arc, by the way.

>> No.4297161

>>4297101
I don't know how that's relevant.

>> No.4297188

>>4297092
>Thinks hating men and using the system to turn everyone against a man/group of men isn't misandry
Back to tumblr and the discord servers with you.

>> No.4297194

>>4297188
>falling for obvious bait

>> No.4297196

>>4297188
Literally only trannies think misandry is real.

>> No.4297203

>>4297194
I don't know man, unless you where the one that posted that, /ic/ has enough females, tumblr refugees and SJWs in general for someone to say some shit like that unironically.
>>4297196
Your an actual fucking retard, a MtF would never say some shit like that because it would rob them of victim points and FtM would never say that by virtue of them being biological women. Stop using tranny as a catch all insult you fucking braindead faggot.

>> No.4297207

>>4297203
You're taking it way too seriously and getting upset, calm down a bit my dude

>> No.4297209

>>4296914
>because he got reported repeatedly
For what?

>> No.4297211

>>4297207
Yea I forgot, If you write more then a sentence, you must be fuming.

>> No.4297215

>>4297203
t. ranny

>> No.4297225

>>4297211
It's your overall hostile tone and unnecessary swearing and insults.

Yes, even on a site like 4chan. Calm yourself

>> No.4297230

>>4297225
Calling someone a braindead faggot for being a braindead faggot is not equivalent to being upset. Also telling someone to calm down when they're already calm is going to have the opposite affect.

>> No.4297245

>>4297230
Go through the thread and you'll notice you're one of the few posters to communicate themselves this way.
If you aren't actually upset, whatever, stop typing like you are. You actually don't need to type like that on 4chan, unless you're on /b/ or something (assuming they still act tryhard and edgy)

>> No.4297258

>>4297209
It probably doesn't matter. Most platforms autoban accounts that get reported above a certain threshold

>> No.4297265

>>4297245
anon, this is how type and this is how I talk in real life, so that ain't changing anytime soon. I have no respect or patience for people that say dumb shit, thinking their being funny or actually being smart. If your this offended that I'm using curse words then feel free to leave the thread.

>> No.4297273

>>4297150
>>4297157
Thanks!

>> No.4297300

>>4297265
HRT really did a number on your mood, huh?

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>>4297300

>> No.4297339

>>4296817
A lot of western artists care about social media and the fake witty persona the invent for themselves. Japanese artists only really care about where their career stands. But I guess that's what happens when you have a massive influx of women and trannies becoming artists.

>> No.4297375

>>4297203
>anon complains about sjws and tumblrinas
>gets asshurt over the word tranny
What did he mean by this?

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there is drama in nip twitter but its usually caused by normalfags. most recent in my head was some crazy fujos created a twitter to rally mass reports on artists that drew school girls and loli and were abusing a vaguely worded rule about minor safety. nip artists thanked them for exposing them to new accounts to follow.

>> No.4297538

>>4296983
>Rei_17
is it normal for artists to have hundreds of likes and retweets every post but 0 comments?

>> No.4297548

>>4297538
I wouldn't be surprised if she bought most of her followers.

>> No.4297603

>>4297538
>is it normal for artists to have hundreds of likes and retweets every post but 0 comments?

I notice that with the "Asian artosphere" it doesn't seem as "socially acceptable" to comment on other people's artworks. Or maybe at least on other stranger's artworks? I see plenty of japanese people comment on each other artworks if they're already friends or mutuals.

Like compare japanese porn artists with western porn artists. They both can submit something with the same number of likes or RTs but the western artist will get a lot more comments.

>> No.4297634

>>4296983
I’m more interested in what’s her brush settings though. Got them?

>> No.4297638

>>4296838
Based as fuck.
The triggered sjw is icing on the cake

>> No.4297641

>>4297059
A lot of fujoshi actually hate actual gay men and find them disgusting which is odd to me

>> No.4297648

>>4296849
Oh fuck off chink, no one in asia like you.
t.Vietfag

>> No.4297649

>>4296817
By focusing on actually making art instead of drama.

>> No.4297656

>>4296983
Rei status........

BTFOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.4297657

>>4297088
Bro most FGO fanartists absolutely hate Fateshit, myself included
We only draw that memegarbage for the likes

>> No.4297672

>>4297634
Already posted here

>>4297111
>>4297120
>>4297129
>>4297136
The brushes aren't really that special and almost the sai equivalent to the round brush. She just uses the pencil brush with size/density altered and paint or watercolor brush with blending turned off.

It's probably easier to make the same brushes in other programs if you enable flow and size jitter with a hard round brush.

>> No.4298064

>>4297657
oh post your fgo shit

>> No.4298066

>>4297111
>>4297120
cheers dude

>> No.4298077

>/ic/ - Internet Celeb drama

>> No.4298101

Misandry is 100% real, it's just men know it as "everyday life".

>> No.4298107

>>4297657
I don't think you're the majority you think you like to believe

>> No.4298109

>>4296817
> rarely any drama
I remember watching a tracer get crucified.

>> No.4298116

>>4296896
Girls Frontline had to cancel plans of a new character because the artist was being mobbed for retweeting feminist shit and they would rather not want their government involved.

>> No.4298123

>>4298116
GFL is a constant source of massive drama. Korean gamers are insane.

>> No.4298125

>>4298123
What am I missing besides that one?

>> No.4298131

>>4298123
Korea in general is fucking insane a lot of people moved to my city during the feminist triad cult government thing.

>> No.4298134

>>4298125
There's literally too much of it to go into. Proportions being slightly off, all their different artists constantly fighting with each other, important artists just getting up and leaving the project because drama and a stupid amount of social media drama leading to people getting fired.

>> No.4299714

>>4296817
Because eastern art community consists of artists and not social media clowns

>> No.4299734

>>4296983
I don't get it, do these subpar artists think they obtain a patent to a certain pose and compositional idea by making a pic?

>> No.4299737

>>4296817
pretention and self importance

>> No.4300287

>>4299734
yes, that is exactly what they think

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>>4297538
>>4297603

>> No.4301965

>>4298116
>>4298123
Koreans, mostly their online female community are now wokefags

>>4298125
The fgo incident. The trade war with japan last year

>> No.4301971

>>4297641
I only hate the loud and obnoxious western lgbt community. Fellow asians are ok

>> No.4301974

>>4296817
must be cultural, in fighting video game scene it's the same. eastern players help each other so they get to the next level and collectively get better, in the west everyone hides strategies and is very individualistic. same thing in starcraft 1&2

i don't think any one approach is superior

>> No.4301987

>>4297641
it goes both ways
at least from my experience on /y/ gays hate fujos and only read bl that is short porn made by other men

>> No.4301994

>>4297641
>>4301987
those who hate gays with passion are probably gay themselves

>> No.4302020

>>4301994
>you say no therefore you are
Ever heard of Kafka?

>> No.4302516

>>4297603
>>4301960
That sucks for asians then
Most social media sites will mark users as a paid bot if they go too long without commenting.
supposedly youtube unsubscribes people for going too long without liking or commenting on channels they are subbed to.

>> No.4302521

>>4301974
>must be cultural
yeah, the east isn't ruled by jews.

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>>4301960
This is so true, I'm pretending to be a Japanese artist on Twitter, my drawings get about the average of 1k likes, 300 retweets and at most 5-10 comments. It's so bizzare.

>> No.4302635

You have to be a delusional weeb if you think Asian art communities or fandoms aren't just as retarded as the west.

>> No.4302790

>>4296817
Are these the same Easterners that quit art and life, because their art gets shared and retweeted or some shit? If that isn't some ultimate drama queen shit I don't know what is.

>> No.4302814

>>4296838
b-b-b-based.

>> No.4302819

>>4296898
Hitler lost, so actually it is all bullshit now.

>> No.4302821

>>4297092
>women taking their own side
literally every time.

>> No.4302834

>>4296983
>>4297111
I really love Rei_17s work. I didn't know she was female. That's even more cool.
This reddit drama shit is cringe. It's pathetic how lifeless people obsess so much over this benign shit.

>> No.4302882

>>4302819
hitler =/= western art community

>> No.4303187

>>4302819
you should follow in hitler's footsteps and kys

>> No.4303194

>>4296838
The pic you posted yourself only proves OP's point, look at how obnoxious the tumblr comments are.

>> No.4303195

>>4302516
I've never heard of this for commenting, and bots comment all the time. I imagine this filter is based on general activity.

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>>4302834
>omg you're a girl? that's even more cool!

>> No.4303266

>>4297538
Western artists' comments consist of "nice colors star emoji" and black people reaction gifs

>> No.4303432

>>4302834
>That's even more cool.
?? why