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4294536 No.4294536 [Reply] [Original]

hi anon, can you show me some art with good foreshortening perspective? do you need to be a master in anatomy to do it correctly?

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>>4294536

>> No.4294540
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anatomy is not as important as perspective when it comes to foreshortening

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>>4294540
>anatomy is not as important as perspective when it comes to foreshortening
i doubt it, anon. maybe its true for sketching, but definitely not for painting

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>> No.4294653

>>4294599
thats an example of bad forshortening not bad anatomy, the painter had trouble portraying a forshortened figure accurately, not its anatomy

>> No.4294666

You need to practice perspective.

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>> No.4294676

>>4294653
>thats an example of bad forshortening
>not photorealistic = bad
Bruh you stupid

>> No.4294681

>>4294536
im not a pro but heres my take on it
- you need to be familiar with anatomy to some extend so that you know how body parts look in 3d
- you need to know some easy basic perspective so you know what happens when something is tilted up, down, etc
- if you know these 2 you can imagine how to rotate the body parts
- drawing some circles wrapped around body parts helps to see it as 3d so it might make it easier to draw it foreshortened, like the distance between these circles get smaller

>> No.4295028

>>4294536
That pic is really bad example of foreshortening

>> No.4295031

>>4295028
why?

>> No.4295036

>>4295031
Because there is no depth to it. Can't you see how feet, the closest thing to the viewer is the same size as her hands, most further parts of her body?

>> No.4295041

>>4295036
There's a thing called field of view, and it does not always have to be high, retard. There's nothing wrong with this.

>> No.4295045

>>4295041
Nah it looks fucking stupid, it's like I'm playing fps on console with FOV set to 60

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>>4295036
feet are the same size as her hands? are you fucking blind?

>> No.4295073

>>4294540
did krenz do these from imagination

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>>4294536

>> No.4295081

>>4295074
best girl

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>> No.4295101

>>4295095
Good, but it might be a bit extreme and to me she looks like a giantess.

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>> No.4295138

>>4295099
Artist?

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>> No.4295160

>>4295138
Looks like the Eureka 7 artstyle so I'm guessing it's their chara designer.

>> No.4295162

>>4295074
>tfw no nagatoro gf

>>4295081
based

>> No.4295172

>>4295160
Nah, that one is by "go robots". Kenichi Yoshida did the character designs for E7.

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>>4295045
keep your cartoons and video games out of art. dynamic perspective must die

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>> No.4295231

>>4295045
Based retard

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>> No.4295537

>>4295387
Spooky scary

>> No.4295539

>>4295356
Is this by Simon?

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Prime Kishimoto wa a master of figures and perspective.

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>>4295569

>> No.4295596

>>4294653
the foreshortening in that image looks to be logical and sound, so it's not necessarily bad.

You can achieve similar results to this by messing with the focal length and angle of view of a camera: https://youtu.be/4k8DfnqXNkw?t=581

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hi everyone, I'm new to art and I have the same question. It seems like you just follow the bounding box for the object you're drawing (for example the arm noodle) and then make basic shapes fit. But one thing I don't see enough is how long to make the arm?

For example a character with shoulders twisted away, hips straight at the camera, and arm furthest away grabing the hilt of their sword at their hip and the camera angled slightly down at them (aka pic related)

in this example the left elbow would not be visible to the camera, I understand that. I don't understand how I'm supposed to keep the arm closest to the camera match the size of the arm furthest from the camera especially with all of the bending in place

whenever I draw something like this, I kind of just "feel it out" and use the head size as a reference almost. I think like this
>Oh, the head is X height so therefore the arm around be around 1 and 1/2 of the height too
>but since the shoulders are away from the camera and at an angle I'll make it smaller to around *starts drawing a line* this height
>Oh yeah, the camera is also above the character too, so I'll just squish the height of the arm to....
>perfect! It feels about right lol"

is there any magic trick I can use to get the arms to look the same length and not make a basic anatomy mistake? A lot of tutorials cover how to draw arms and stuff, but they all usually just do the "about this long lol xd" thing too and not explain why they chose that length

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>> No.4295640

>>4295615
I'M SO FUCKING ANGRY

>> No.4295773

>>4295577
>>4295569
>>4295387
>>4295173
Its so lame, is the artist to lazy to draw the whole body in perspective? So he is just doing this "hand covers the arm" trick?

>> No.4295820

>>4294666
the vag line is too high here, it's bothering me

>> No.4295923

>>4295615
I don't why but it sure piss me off

>> No.4295937

>>4294599
lost at those tiny feet

>> No.4297237

>>4295773
Moron

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>>4297237

>> No.4298051

>>4295615
where'd you get this uncensored version from?

>> No.4298135

>>4295356
Based teal/simon, I remember that thread. The only reason I keep coming back to this board, even though he only shows up once in a blue moon.

>> No.4298158

This is going to sound retarded but is there any thing like a foreshortening cheat sheet?

>> No.4298241

>>4298158
not realy, you have to be good

>> No.4298268

>>4294536
Perspective knowledge is much more important than anatomy when it comes to foreshortening (which is basically understanding of perspective).

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yes! finally get to post this for not fetish reasons.

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>>4295356
how do these work? I cant wrap my brain around these. do you just lay down land marks inside the cube? cause that never really works for me...

>> No.4298358

>>4298311
what is your fetish, socks?

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>>4298358
pantyhose/tights being worn. The tight translucent fabric on a pair of womanly legs, crotch and feet, bolsters the form. I love seeing toe and heel showing through. Which is weird, I don't have a foot fetish at all, a pair of feet would deflate my boner. But tights make me radiate male pheromones.

>> No.4298448

>>4294536
Manga artists often use 3d models for such difficult perspectives.

>> No.4298587

>>4298332
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
WHY CAN'T I READ JAPANESE

>> No.4298658

>>4298332
These are pretty much crap.

>> No.4298699

>>4298268
I just have the hardest time figuring out the "lens". How far to stretch and distort things for maximum effect. It's incredibly frustrating when I don't know how to correct my mistakes

>> No.4299594

>>4295133
>>4295151
Artist?

>> No.4299599

>>4299594
Different anon. Pretty sure the artist is Kim Jung Gi.

>> No.4299603

>>4294599
If the head was smaller and the legs/feet were bigger it would look fine.

>> No.4299618

>>4294536
Draw from life

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>>4298388
A man of culture, I see.

>> No.4300067

>>4295151
Their hips don't join at the genitals...

>> No.4300079

>>4300067
Wait fuck you're right. With him on his knees, his dick shouldn't be able to reach her vagoo on the floor.

>> No.4300576

>>4300067
he has big benis

>> No.4301487
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toshi

>> No.4301493

>>4301487
>>4298332
Ah I see someone else posted him too, >>4298658
has a point but imo toshi’s stuff looks good even when wonky because it’s so dynamic. You can tell some of the poses are stretched and overly distorted a bit but I still copy them occasionally because it gets me out of my comfort zone.

>> No.4301496

>>4295133
I imagine Ohio looks like this, but far less erotic

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>> No.4302543

>>4302496
why do her toes look like a giant dookie

>> No.4302587

>>4301487
Big Hand Energy

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Is there any recommended course for forthshortening? (How however you spell it, I ain't english sorry)
I've been trying to find some helpfull courses/books because its been the bane of my existence. I understand how perspective works but I fuck it up pretty often when doing characters. Pic related, second panel. I had to redo it a couple times and even now I just know its off

>> No.4303343

>>4303089
> i understand perspective
No, you not

>> No.4303377

>>4303089
it helps if you think of the body in basic forms in perspective

>> No.4305250

>>4298051
fakku

>> No.4306803

>>4294670
hot

>> No.4306931

>>4294536
source?

>> No.4306935

>>4306931
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/73910327
got it

>> No.4306937

>>4295138
Clearly Kim Jung Gi.

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>> No.4308137
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Does anyone know any rescources where people pose naked in warped perspective like these pics?

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>> No.4308164

>>4295615
name of the manga please anon

>> No.4308169

>>4297302
>>4297302
Thats still not the whole body
Where are her thigh and bicep?
Hidden by forshortening

>> No.4308181

>>4308164
the job of a service committee member

>> No.4308483

>>4295606
>>4295610
Who's the artist for these?

>> No.4308875

>>4308483
norakura @nr_kura

>> No.4309030

>>4308127
is that glass pane in the right not parallel with the one next to it?

>> No.4309161

>>4308169
redline or stfu

>> No.4309175

>>4308137
Hyper Angle. Check the artbook thread.

>> No.4309186

>>4295173
>he thinks cartoons and video games aren't art

>> No.4309189

>>4295609
jesus christ shut the fuck up

>> No.4309192

>>4300067
that's the difference between pros and (you).
they don't worry about stupid shit like this. you do.

>> No.4309195

>>4303343
Yes, i do.

>> No.4310400

>>4309189
can't read more than a sentence?

>> No.4311311

>>4295609
Personally I made 3d models, position them, and loosely draw/flesh out limbs based on the angle I need. Some stuff just needs specific reference.

>> No.4311426

>>4294599
>>4295937
>Oh for shame he past away from falling and hitting his head, for his feet were too small for his barrel chest and head.

>> No.4311430

>>4309186
Mommy probably took away his toys as a kid and he coped by becoming pretentious.

>> No.4311435

>>4308134
RAD-I-KOOL DOOD

>> No.4311438

>>4308140
inb4 she's scared of heights and was terrified, needing help down. those eyes say it all.

>> No.4311443

>>4308154
>he lost his dick in the war but can still feel phantom sex
>goes around slapping random women with his ballsack

>> No.4311463

>>4310400
word hard need picture to understand

>> No.4311804

>>4294599
Is that Lord Farquaad?

>> No.4311868

>>4301493
>>4298135
>>4295356
Where can I see more of his art?

>> No.4311878

>>4308875
Thank

>> No.4311894

>>4311430
>h-he said something i don't agree with...he's COPING!!!!

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>>4311443
progre idiot detected

>> No.4312038

>>4295068
>Comparing anime to realism
Kek. Good one mate.

>> No.4312185

>>4311894
>I'm gonna put words in this strangers mouth to feel better about myself.

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>>4312010

>> No.4312645

>>4308154
is he fucking her ass through his shirt?

>> No.4313176

>>4312010
is english your second language? either way lay off /pol/ a bit, it's rotting your brain

>> No.4313216

>>4295773
>>4308169
What do you think 'foreshortening' means?

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>>4312192
>>4312645
>>4313176
Idiots the maniqui in that pose not have genitals, retards!!!

>> No.4313655

>>4311426
Underated

>> No.4314499
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the perspective

>> No.4314503

>>4295773
based brainlet

>> No.4314570

>>4314499
are you a girl?

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>>4294536

>> No.4314581

>>4314570
wtf???