/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4291470]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

previous >>4287982

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj
RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

[Anonymous No.4291534]

>he doesn't draw every single day even if just for 20 minutes
explain yourself

[GestureGuy No.4291551]

i have decided to study heads because i have 0 experience drawing heads this month so i'm studying the planes of the face is it fine ? here is some brow studies first thing i noticed perspective is fucked in most of them any thing else? also are these good references to study the planes from some of them are kinda hard to fine the planes because of the light.

[GestureGuy No.4291555]

>>4291551
Also some gesture

[Anonymous No.4291556]

>>4291470
can anyone help with this
>>4290852

[Anonymous No.4291559]

this was fun to do.

[Anonymous No.4291575]

>>4291470
How could I make these 3 sketches look more like they are of the same character? I did what I could but I feel like they look like 3 different people.

[Anonymous No.4291576]

>>4291575
Fucking forgot the picture

[Anonymous No.4291586]

Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4291592]

>>4291586
You got very very lazy with details such as her arms, the dress, her hair and a lot of other small things such as outlining certain objects. Her facial anatomy is too small and it’s a huge imbalance with certain things looking realistic and others looking cartoony. Her arms also need to be way more organic, it just looks like you made a thick line right there with no regard as to how her arm should look. You should draw a bit more on humans

[Anonymous No.4291594]

>>4291576
Ears a bit too high up on that bottom one

[Anonymous No.4291595]

>>4291576
They look the same to me...but the eyebrows on the bottom one are black and on the top left they’re white. Work on hair consistency as it seems longer in others than some

[Anonymous No.4291599]

>>4291576
Jaw line doesn’t match.
Forehead length changes.
Measure the facial features. To see if the distances match.
You’ll see the top and side are different.
Hair length on neck seems to change.
Bottom face is diagonal. His facial features push outwards instead of stay within the range established in the side profile.

Practiced coloring and shading.

[Anonymous No.4291610]

>>4291470
does anyone have some mega links to any good paid video lecture courses? i just got peter han's dynamic sketching 1 and 2 and i'm wondering if there are any other good ones i should try

[Anonymous No.4291616]

>>4291576

[Anonymous No.4291624]

How long until i stop wanting to punch a hole in my cintiq because i suck so bad? ive been drawing for a little less than a month and i get so frustrated

[Anonymous No.4291637]

>>4291616
you put the one on the right higher than the one on the left. it would line up everywhere except the eyes if you lined it up correctly.

[Anonymous No.4291641]

>>4291624
about 2 more years when you turn 18

[Anonymous No.4291655]

>>4291641
make it 8

[Anonymous No.4291659]

>>4291641

im 24

[Anonymous No.4291661]

>>4291659
24 days till your next period

[Anonymous No.4291663]

>>4291661
You are retarded.

[Anonymous No.4291665]

>>4291637

[Anonymous No.4291696]

I can't render for shit lmfao. Not really sure how to fix this.

[Anonymous No.4291702]

Yeah i'm shit, it's gonna take some time for me to learn how to paint in any sense.

[Anonymous No.4291708]

>>4291702

study values first. values made form.

[Anonymous No.4291710]

What's the right way to paint and render? I think I get it, but I feel like I'm just noodling like a monkey and not actually getting anything out of studying

[Anonymous No.4291713]

>>4291710
Face on left is really flat. Right looks really nice. Rough but nice. What kind of rendering do you want to do?

[Anonymous No.4291717]

>>4291713
>What kind of rendering do you want to do?
There's more than one way to render? I've watch a bunch of speed draws online from online artists and all I can surmise from the process is that you feel it out and put the colors in that seam into a nice looking skin and blush.

[Anonymous No.4291718]

starting to scribble at work again

[Anonymous No.4291723]

>>4291702
I personally like it, but I'm /beg too

[Anonymous No.4291730]

>>4291555
good job, keep it up !

[Anonymous No.4291732]

i think she looks cute what do you think?

[Anonymous No.4291737]

>>4291710
I mean there’s this. Digital. Oil. Digital oil. Ryan jia

[Anonymous No.4291738]

>>4291732
Almost yea, keep at it

[Anonymous No.4291742]

>>4291710
You should study planes on the body. You should also have a good underdrawing.
Try doing a paint over on a photo.
Recognize values.

[Anonymous No.4291747]

>>4291742
Recognise the plains, map em out, THEN do the coloring. Alright. I thought it was just an innate feeling thing from the get go. alright

[Anonymous No.4291755]

>>4291702

This anon is right: >>4291708
You need to work on your values. You don't have enough contrast between your lighter values and darker values. Without that
you won't be able to make any statements about form. Don't be afraid to really play around with your values. That being said, I
don't think this is bad at all, looks pretty good honestly.I see your shifting your hues a bit as you go from light to dark which is
pretty nice. My paint over isn't the best, but I hope it helps to get the idea across. Keep trying, work from some more
references, try to pay attention to how the forms catch light, and try to work on a darker canvas, it will help you see what your
doing a bit better, especially with lighter skin tones.

[Anonymous No.4291771]

>>4291747
More like.
Draw
Planes
Flat colors
Shading
Highlights
Reflective colors
Rim light.

[Anonymous No.4291774]

>>4291747

[Anonymous No.4291776]

>>4291774

[Anonymous No.4291812]

I read that it's generally a bad idea to spend too much time on a single drawing. Is this true? I fall into the trap of constantly editing and adding details, and want to learn how to quicken my pace.

[Anonymous No.4291819]

>>4291812
Yeah, if you spend too much time polishing something with weak fundamentals it will look piss poor and you won't really improve.

[Anonymous No.4291838]

Is it good that my dick smells like a filet-o-fish burger?

[Anonymous No.4291841]

>>4291838
Uh.....Loomis?

[Anonymous No.4291916]

how do i stop my form shadows from blending with my cast shadows?
also any good books/videos specifically for shadows?

[Anonymous No.4291925]

>>4291624
>Drawing less than one month
>Owns a Cintiq
Yikes.

[Anonymous No.4291968]

>>4291812
yes, Blender Guru even made a friggin' presentation about it four years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM39qhXle4g

[Anonymous No.4292011]

Repostan
Where can I learn how to shade the face better? I know the location of the bones and muscles in terms of line, but I clearly still have only a simplistic idea of where to place shadows. Where can I read some really in depth material on how to shade the different planes and muscle areas? Clearly some shaped are rounded and others are flat or sharp, but Loomis doesn't go in depth on that

[Anonymous No.4292025]

How do you even resize images in Sai?

[Anonymous No.4292087]

>>4291551
Looking good

Just some mousepad drawings, bored

[Anonymous No.4292113]

>>4292011
You need to learn some anatomy before you start polishing turds

[Anonymous No.4292119]

>>4292113
Yes I understand the construction was off. I still want to know where areas of core shadow need to go, and the shape of muscles. Also the picture I was using for reference had weird proportions, including the stick out ears you are upset about

[Anonymous No.4292147]

If this is how you draw heads front and profile facing how do you draw them when facing up?

[Anonymous No.4292148]

>>4292011
>>4292119

Also perective on the J.F. Kennedy guy is fucked

(i am not that good at persective so critique of my critique is welcome)

Also , this video might help you (its about figure drawing but the perspetive things apply to the head as well)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lp6gc4gjjY&list=PLq1TGG6lDQ2y6sm5ODEIPWZu8pBPpuN3E&index=4


Also the third drawings is the best one out of the bunch

My single objections are:

”mouth seems a bit too big and out of perspective”

”Right eye seems to slant into the right side”

”Left eye looks directly at the camera and breaks perspetive”

”and the switch from the side of the head to the front of the head might be a bit too sudden”


>reference had weird proportions
Pls pick better refference

[Anonymous No.4292152]

>>4291774
Sketch and local colours are better than the final outcome

[Anonymous No.4292157]

>>4292119
I think you should stick to Keys to drawing(or the inferior betty edwards book) a bit more before focusing on construction. Those verticals the other anon did for you should be an almost automatic thing you can do in your head, maybe not as tight as drawing the actual lines, but definitely in the ballpark.

[Anonymous No.4292177]

Was going really good till I fucked up on the shirt ;-;

[Anonymous No.4292191]

i'm a lazy nigger

[Anonymous No.4292201]

>>4292147

[Anonymous No.4292221]

>>4291595
if i remember correctly ears dont go above the brows. sorry if i sound rude i dont critique much.

[Anonymous No.4292225]

Is it considered bad practice to use a circle tool for loomis heads?

[Anonymous No.4292237]

>>4292201
Hey thank you really but do you have one that shows less refined examples?

[Anonymous No.4292244]

teaches me right drawing construction lines without really undeserstanding them lol
ended up with anime eyes and a long ass nose

[Anonymous No.4292246]

>>4292225
Idk that I'd call it bad practice but it's certainly overkill. You should be comfortable enough with a pencil that that isn't necessary.

[Anonymous No.4292264]

>>4292225
i imagine it would become a crutch

[Anonymous No.4292310]

How do I blend colors in PS 19?

[Anonymous No.4292353]

First realistic human drawing that im actually proud of. How did i do?

[Anonymous No.4292355]

>>4292310
painter works much better

[Anonymous No.4292372]

am I doing it right /ic/?

[Anonymous No.4292398]

>>4291710
eyes are too big

eyes are 1/5 of the face and positioned like this:

Empty space | Eye | Nose | Eye | Empty space

[Anonymous No.4292623]

Reposting because I posted when thread cap was reached:

I can't figure out the form of the chest on this picture at all, can someone help me?

[Anonymous No.4292710]

>>4291470
How do I become a better human-printer?
I'm still feeling weak and slow with measurements and I do too many restatements even in something this simple. In bigger drawings with multiple objects it gets all weird or slows down to a snail's pace.

[Anonymous No.4292715]

>>4292623
Holy shit what pencil are you using, change to a HB for sharper lines, this looks like shit.

[Anonymous No.4292732]

>>4292623
don't draw people in loose clothing if you can't figure out the form of the chest.

[Anonymous No.4292794]

any feedback on this?

[Anonymous No.4292797]

ok serious question, can someone with Aphantasia be a good artist or am I just screwed

[Anonymous No.4292812]

>>4292797
just become a human printer and cobble together images from google till you make something cool

[Anonymous No.4292817]

>>4292797
what the fuck is aphantasia anyways? when I close my eyes I always see only darkness, other people can see something different?

[Anonymous No.4292825]

Is Krita a good program to use or do I need to Shell out for Photoshop? Most of the tutorials on YouTube are all PS oriented which is a bit frustrating

[Anonymous No.4292832]

>>4292797
You do not need to have a super vivid fantasy for it. Art is actually quite formulaic and involves a substantial amount of basic reasoning and practical knowldge, ask any practicing artist and they will tell you this. Plus that is the reason why we can use stuff like computers to help us produce it. If would need so much imagination then it would not be possible to create 3D images with computer for example.

[Anonymous No.4292841]

>>4292825
You do not need PS, yes PS is the industry standard, but PS is the industry standard for a studio work. Which includes a huge variety of tasks that people of different professions do.

If you just want to draw animu and especially if you are a beginner you would be using like 20-30% of PS' functions. You would be paying for a ton of features you would not be using for years.

[Anonymous No.4292851]

Would like some feedback on my figure drawings pls

[Anonymous No.4292854]

>>4292851

[Anonymous No.4292860]

>>4292851
My biggest issue here is with its left hip.
It looks dislocated

[Anonymous No.4292864]

>>4292794

[Anonymous No.4292869]

>>4292864
tl;dr

[Anonymous No.4292873]

>>4292851

[Anonymous No.4292876]

A woman I’ve been working on.
In the image I’m using her arms are at a weird perspective.

[Anonymous No.4292878]

>>4292864
could you stop posting this shitty meme?

[Anonymous No.4292883]

>>4292851
Sketch

[Anonymous No.4292888]

>>4292883
Shit picture I know, sorry.

[Anonymous No.4292890]

>>4292715
He just needs to "free" his hand, to draw lines and elipses with one or two big motions

[Anonymous No.4292920]

>>4292794
You're not done
>>4292851
Use construction when you don't understand the form
>>4292854
Construction
>>4292873
construction
>>4292876
Construction
>>4292883
Construction
>>4292353
Decent. Just need practicing
>>4292177
Construction
>>4292011
Construction
>>4291732
Construction
>>4291576
They all look the same

[Anonymous No.4292922]

>>4292883
tights seem kinda big
like fat kinda big

[Anonymous No.4292923]

>>4292794
>>4292864
If you just wanted to capture the gesture, you have succeeded. If you wanted to draw a 1:1 you have failed to pay attention to pretty obvious stuff.

[Anonymous No.4292927]

>>4292794

continue with value rendering and fix problems that you can see along the way.

[Anonymous No.4292928]

>>4292920
Based and constructionpilled

[Anonymous No.4292975]

leg studies from huston and 2 doodles from magination

i dont know how to color ahhhh but i downloaded some courses and im gonna try my best tonight

[Anonymous No.4292980]

>>4292920
Anything other than construction?

[Anonymous No.4292991]

>>4292980
Construction and line confidence are the two things everyone should have nailed down first before you can work on anything else. Line confidence though comes from experience and taking it slow, so to say as much is a bit redundant.

[GestureGuy No.4292994]

Today gestures

[Anonymous No.4293000]

>>4291470
I have gone through the DAB exercises until lesson 1 and I feel like I now know how to draw a straight line and make use of 3D space.
I want to start drawing humans instead of nothing but boxes. Where should I start?
I tried getting into quickposes but my "attempts" look like absolute fucking shit.

[Anonymous No.4293001]

>>4292372
This would have been so good if the feet weren’t horrendously worst than everything else. Even if the feet were just bad, I would have still liked it but man.

[Anonymous No.4293006]

>>4293000
I’m stuck in portrait drawing and honestly I wouldn’t recommend it. It’s sucking the soul out of me. I honestly wished I stucked with the human body instead.

[Anonymous No.4293010]

circles make me sad

[Anonymous No.4293012]

>>4292372
I actually like the feet even if they somewhat stylistically clash with the rest. For me the biggest problem is the total lack of foreshortening on the thighs so it looks like she's crouch hovering in front of her chair instead of sitting on it.

[Anonymous No.4293033]

>>4293000
dont rely on drawabox for drawing people, this is what his figure lessons looked like before he deleted it

go to video course thread and download some popular videos like vilppu or whatever, open a ref and try to draw it, copy a drawing from a book or someone else, just draw a person instead of grinding boxes
i'im not a master but i used to grind these dab and dynamic sketching crap and just felt so frustrated, i just ditched it and started drawing people from imagination and copying drawings/refs and its gradually starting to look better. like, nobody tells you when to stop drawing boxes, all you get is this vague advice "learn construction"

[Anonymous No.4293047]

>>4293033
Thanks anon. I relied on the dynamic sketching and DAB courses to get used to drawing straight lines and shapes more than anything as I had problems even doing something as simple as a box. Any specific course for a complete beginner? Drawing stickmen kinda pisses me off and I wish I could get through that phase as soon as possible and start making real figures.

>>4293006
I am willing to take the plunge

[Anonymous No.4293061]

>>4293047
im mainly copying studies from huston's book to memorize them (use whatever book u like), i learnt heads from loomis and im following the vilppu video course loosely. i'm >>4292975 btw so really not very good but i used to draw very skewed goblins and got to this stage by just sticking to my ugly drawings. i just said fuck you to boxes and jumped into drawing people to stop wasting time. i take notes about what looks wrong and try to improve it in next drawing.

i think huston's and hampton's book are alright but you have to get some refs and try to follow their advice by drawing because they're not telling you steps like "first draw this, then draw that". they just give you general idea where to start. i started with gestures and scribbled body parts around them until they looked ok. vilppu's videos are good when you want to start "polishing" the body parts

i hope this helps you somehow, i dont want to give shit advice or anything

[Anonymous No.4293071]

>>4291710
Just draw with pencil for a while. If you want to play around with color because it's fun then go ahead, I don't like to tell people to not explore things because they're not "ready" for them yet, but at the same time you really aren't ready to approach color seriously until you get better at form and value.

[Anonymous No.4293098]

>>4293061
You are doing more than good enough anon.
> i just said fuck you to boxes and jumped into drawing people to stop wasting time
I was afraid of skipping on something basic by not finishing at least the DAB lessons. I am now convinced that they are quite bullshit.
Thanks anon. I will finish the sheets I had pulled out for boxes and forget about the damn things.

Are you using charcoal for your trad studies? They look too dark and "soft" for graphite.

[Anonymous No.4293106]

>>4291755
alright thank you, I understand grayscale painting alot more than color painting but that's likely because it's a hella lot easier.

[Anonymous No.4293108]

>>4292991
All you did was mention construction, but didn't care to mention exactly what you thought was wrong with the anatomical parts or anything else interesting..

[Anonymous No.4293115]

>>4293098
i used a mitsubishi HB pencil, its just a normal soft pencil (it is a nice pencil though haha), the lines look too dark probably because i fixed the contrast because i took a crappy photo.

yeah i mean if you draw people and feel like "shit maybe i DO need drawabox" then just go back to it, i personally never have this urge as i prefer to have a stack of medicore figures rather than perfect boxes. sure i did all these boxes and shit and it taught me perspective, but i cant imagine going through this WHOLE thing, its just a waste of time.i now just go with intuition when it comes to courses, i dont like something, i delete it, because if there was some 100% guaranteed formula to getting good with courses im sure it wouldve been posted here already, but theres not, so what else can i do other than improvise you feel me? post your work when you draw something! we can do it Lol

[Anonymous No.4293121]

>>4293106
always paint in grayscale to get good values, you can just use an overlay layer afterwards to get your colors

[Anonymous No.4293122]

>>4293108
dont worry this dude (or These 3 or 2 dudes - i dont know) just goes around this board whole days, literally 24/7 and being really preachy, but i never see any actual advice besides "Learn Construction. Why Do You Attempt Drawing People When Your Construction Is Shit, Understand The Form, Pyw, Your Drawing Is Crap" and man what are you supposed to do with this...

you can tell me which drawing was yours maybe i can help? (if i cant help i will just admit it)

[Anonymous No.4293127]

>>4293121
I know this is probably a stupid question but can someone tell me the proper way to color over greyscale? I figured you're supposed to just slap an overlay layer on top but it ends up making the colors look dark and muddy. Is there another step?

[Anonymous No.4293131]

Turned down the first cute girl that has ever shown interest in me cause a date would've taken at least 1 hour away from drawing.
I did the right thing, right brehs?

[Anonymous No.4293134]

>>4293131
Gmi

[Anonymous No.4293136]

>>4293131

she just wanted to ask for direction anon...

[Anonymous No.4293139]

>>4293122
I know its frustrating, these are mine -
>>4292851
>>4292854
>>4292873
>>4292883
Ty

[Anonymous No.4293144]

>>4293122
Its funny cause I was studying the force method, and the teacher said that when it comes to gesture drawings you shouldn't worry about construction or even proportions, he practically ignored construction all together, it was more about letting the lines flow.

[Anonymous No.4293145]

what went wrong

[Anonymous No.4293146]

>>4293139
okay give me some time i will try my best to help

>>4293127
i dont think this is a stupid question at all, its a hard thing to do. ctrl paint has a video about it you can download it here for example https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TOLh8o5PtZYr4KYq3yIkUXXnaiU3n6fi-FZMJ4-gqCc/edit

[Anonymous No.4293149]

>>4293146
Thanks fren

[Anonymous No.4293161]

Critique, please. What is the best way to incorporate backgrounds in a watercolor painting without it being overly blurred? Can a background be just as detailed as the main focus so long as the colors are more muted and don't distract from the main focus? I am a tard and too afraid to get at backgrounds.

I tried to play with color instead of the generic muted green/brown black of crocodiles. Sometimes I look at it and the colors seem fine but other times I feel it kinda looks bad? I dunno.

Also, I'm just a hobbyist that likes to draw animals. But would I benefit from attempting human anatomy? Would it help me with forms and lines even on animals? I have just been drawing animals from books since I was a kid, but I feel like I have been stagnant in my improvement for a couple years now and I just want to improve for my enjoyment.

I used a watercolor palette for the base and used Arteza watercolor brush pens for the "splotchy" detailing. I don't know if watercolor is suppose to be this layered but I kind of enjoy it. Do I need to just keep working on it or throw it out the window?

[Anonymous No.4293165]

>>4293115
Those are some expensive pencils...
I just buy Maped HB by the dozen.
>yeah i mean if you draw people and feel like "shit maybe i DO need drawabox" then just go back to it,
In my case, it is mostly a huge sense of fear because I am deathly afraid of failure and seeing my ultra mediocre figure drawings pissed me off, so I went back to boxes.
Thanks, I will start figure drawing later today.
>pyw
One day, lad, one day.

[Anonymous No.4293168]

Copying the illustrations in Anatomy for Sculptors

[Anonymous No.4293169]

>>4293161
My attempt at "background"
The black is dumb but on the reference picture it is fine. Am I not translating properly?
Fish are main focus so from what I understand the rest is a background? Sorry for the tard question.
Also, I tried to just copy the general idea of the anemone around the fish, but when I practice should I just be copying the reference image as close as possible? Would I learn better that way?
Reference pic:
http://www.conservenature.org/learn_about_wildlife/great_barrier_reef/images/ButzbachClownfish2.jpg

Sorry for all the tard questions.

[Anonymous No.4293176]

>>4293161
You're on the right track, but think "value" instead of 'muted color". The idea is to control your values, so you can adjust them purposefully to not draw attention from the focus, while maintaining credibility at the same time. There's no 'do this, and it will work every time" method, it's just practice and experimentation until it becomes more intuitive to you. The level of detail is up to you - but generally the further away, the less detail and the more block shape things will be - you don't have to paint every leaf on a tree on a hill far away, a block shape can give enough visual clues that it's a 'tree", and our brains fill in the rest.
The colors on this are fine, if a bit brown. but it looks good as a thumbnail/far away. A common mistake is for beginning artists to only look at things close up - hang it on your wall, and look at it over a week or so, and see if anything comes to mind while looking at it, like "maybe if I put some cool hues in the shadows, like greens and blues, it'll pop more."
Watercolor is as many layers as you need - they can easily get muddied with some, but that's the challenge of watercolor, planning your washes so you're not building up the wrong hues. That can take a career to fully master.

[Anonymous No.4293177]

>>4292920
"Construction" is almost the same as "just draw better". If someone is a /beg/ who can't draw then it'll probably be hard for them to find the right construction lines too.

[Anonymous No.4293187]

>>4293176
You're absolutely right with the brown. I tried to avoid the brown/green of a crocodile but I went ahead and did it anyway. Jesus, I am mega retarded to not see that before. The "brown" pen I used is more of a dark wine red but with the yellows it made it more brown. Fuck me.

For my next artwork I am going to focus on cooler hues and I am going to make a goddamn background. I will stick to shapes.

Thank you for the critique anon.

[GestureGuy No.4293195]

>>4292994
More gesture/construction
>>4291730
Thanks kind anon

[Anonymous No.4293197]

>>4293177
Why is it so hard to get any constructive criticism online?

[Anonymous No.4293202]

>>4293149
ok this is my crit, i tried my best to make it simple, i hope i didnt make any big mistakes. for now my personal advice for you is to try make more loose, dynamic lines, like allow your arm move movement, because these drawings seem a bit scratchy, "carved" into the paper. top left drawing - that hip couldve been just this one curved line instead of these bumps, i think its better to draw long lines first and then add details, bumps etc i also see you have a tendency to make your figures and/or their body parts longer than they are. so just keep making ref studies but try to loosen up and measure more, you can even use a liner or whatever. and try to draw something from memory sometimes, that helps getting "comfy" with proportions (at least for me)
i used the loomis method for head in case you wanted to know

[Anonymous No.4293205]

>>4293202
I was actually the guy thanking you for the coloring tutorial link, so you may want to quote the other guy with your reply.

[Anonymous No.4293215]

>>4293205
aw sorry man! i hope the coloring vidya is helpful

>>4293202
>>4293139
here's the crit on your drawings

>>4293197
i think it is a bigger problem on anonymous boards, because you dont have your portfolio/feed attached to your username, so nobody can check what is your actual level and you can just go around talking whatever

[Anonymous No.4293228]

>>4293197
Because most of the people here are like you, trying to learn, or they don't know anything about it, other than "Loomis".
Personally, I think there's too much emphasis in it here, because most of the collective knowledge about art education here is cobbled together by people who don't know what it is. Construction is simply an exercise to train your mind to think in terms of form - the goal is to use it to establish the form, and then refine it - a skilled artist can simply establish a few landmarks and work from there. The goal isn't "perfect" construction, it's part of a bigger journey. It's not "perfect" anatomy, it's making credible figures that are pleasing. Loomis, and all of the other variations of construction, are just getting your brain trained to break things down to basic shapes, so you can visualize them, and draw them with more authority. (Lacking a reference to work from)
Does your figure look credible, the pose credible, and have any pleasing aspects? Grats. You have succeeded in construction. Doesn't have to be perfect, it's a learning tool.

[Anonymous No.4293233]

>>4293215
Thank you so much anon for your crit anon!

[Anonymous No.4293236]

original image: https://teamfortress.fandom.com/wiki/Stainless_Pot?file=Soldier_with_the_Stainless_Pot_TF2.png

So can anyone whose made it here say when its time to focus on things like loomis/construction/landscapes etc. etc. The stickie says to get rid of symbol drawing. But how exactly do I do that? Right now im just copying tf2 images, but what do I look for specifically to break out of that habit?

[Anonymous No.4293237]

>>4292201

[Anonymous No.4293238]

>>4293236
drawing with symbols means drawing your own ideas of objects and bodies you have stored in your head. which are very simplified by definition so they look bad on paper. so you should look at reference like you dont know anything about it and follow it closely. sometimes people recommend flipping the ref vertically, like upside down

[Anonymous No.4293240]

>>4293195
I would call this 'solid first week of figure drawing class". Now, let's move on:
One, start giving your figure room to breath. One page per drawing, especially with digital, there is no reason to be clumping them together, it's confusing and distracts from the figure.
Nest, start refining the form. Less lines, more S curves, more contour, more confident lines, ie. THIS is the contour of the thigh, not 2 or 3 lines. Capture the form. Stop worrying about the line down the torso, look at the body as an object in space, with form and volume - and look at the blank space around it, and define the form within that (ie. white space) with contour lines. Draw the whole figure. You don't have to draw the whole face in detail, but the shapes of the face - and the hands and feet.
And, it's time to start doing warm up gesture drawings, with an economy of line, and then pick one and work it up more, as a refined piece. In a few weeks, start a pattern of 20 minutes of gesture to warm up, one or two more refined poses, focusing on more accuracy, and then one final piece, throwing in shading and volume. Limit yourself to an hour on this. That's what a figure drawing class is, for the bulk of it. Later in the course, then you move on to multi-session pieces, of one pose, where you work up a final, refined drawing, doing smaller, separate studies of problem areas if needed.
These aren't bad. You're on the right track, you need to take the next step up. Start thinking form, not construction. Use light construction to place landmarks, refine from there, looking for contour. You're working digitally, so it's more challenging to work with line weight, but I would adjust your stylus to have more expression in your lines, so you don't have the same line throughout.

[Anonymous No.4293249]

>>4293238
Symbol drawing is really just cartooning, or what a child does. A stick figure is a symbolic representation of a human figure, or a round circle is a symbolic representation of the eye. The way to work from that, is to start drawing what is really there, not what you think is there. You haven't studied it, so your brain reverts to 'circle" for the eye. Construction is ONE thing to study - mostly what your path is, is to look at things, visualize it's form in your head, and translate it to your hand. It takes practice. Your brain needs just as much 'loomis" as your hand. Start simple, work from there. Start with cubes, cylinders, cones, etc, and work up to more complex shapes. Same thing as any beginning drawing class - draw a square. Now make it a cube. Now shade it. Now draw a coffee cup.

[Anonymous No.4293250]

>>4293237
this looks like a perfect reaction image but I cannot imagine what context it would be used

[Anonymous No.4293259]

>>4293250
bad anatomy advice
here''s an apple

[Anonymous No.4293263]

>>4291470

[Anonymous No.4293276]

>>4293263
The right front tire is all kinds of fucked up. its thicker and higher set than the others. Besides the perspective issue, consistency with your shapes (tires) would do wonders.

[Anonymous No.4293281]

>>4293249
umm ok?

[Anonymous No.4293305]

>>4293281
Was there something you didn't understand? Or were you just shitposting something snotty, because 4chan?

[Anonymous No.4293316]

>>4293259
That apple lhas a serious lack of contrast and shadow.

[Anonymous No.4293333]

>>4293071
Are you sure? Those paintings were done without a base to paint over. I put the study pic in the other monitor and then went to town on a fresh sai page with colors. I now know that you're supposed to put something underneath it to guide the process. Even if I'm not ready, I feel a bit constrained to my safe space and want to get rolling on values and planes and painting would force me to confront that.

I think. I may be full of shit. Am I full of shit?

[Anonymous No.4293361]

>>4293010
Those aren't circles, they're spheres and ellipses. Use squares to be able to figure out how to draw an ellipse in space. The way you're using a box to draw them makes no sense at all

[Anonymous No.4293367]

>>4293131
No, why would you miss out on something worth experiencing in life? Drawing doesn't outweigh everything in life. I like how you're comparing yourself to Griffith though, think more about his story and if it's worth basing your morals off of the ones told through his character. Having a full life is very worth it.

[Anonymous No.4293382]

>>4293131
No. You missed the possibility to expand your mental library. Touching and feeling her shape and being able to manipulate the planes of her skin, committing it to memory.
You lost out on an opportunity.

[Anonymous No.4293388]

>>4293131
Congrats You're an idiot

[Anonymous No.4293410]

Update on my artwork, how is it shit so far and how do I make the artwork not look like shit?

[Anonymous No.4293416]

>>4293410
>how is it shit so far
Not the worst
>how do I make the artwork not look like shit
Construction

[Anonymous No.4293417]

>>4293410
They look like noodles, study anatomy

[Anonymous No.4293419]

>>4293410
This is really cool from an abstract view. You captures interesting shapes and flow within the negative space. The person's right arm on the right looks like it could be from someone else with the position of it, I like it from a wacky abstract view. If you don't like that approach your figures are extremely stiff and disproportionate. First I would come up with a better composition than that, it's too boring if you want to make something more realistic as opposed to what I said about it being more abstract. You also need to draw through more, and work on gestures to get them looking more alive. I meant drawing through as in you draw the figures like they aren't in front or behind one another until you get a better understanding of proportions in difficult poses. I don't know if you can see what I see in this, but as this piece stands right now I really like it for what I see.

[Anonymous No.4293420]

>>4293419
Oh when I mentioned gesture I recommend you approach it with a lot of straight lines as opposed to a lot of curvy lines like how Villppu and a lot others teach it. Bridgman's approach has helped me a lot with figure drawing.

[Anonymous No.4293443]

I'm not sure if I should ask this, I'm not even sure I'll get a serious response but I've started with the basics about 5 days ago, I've been reading "Fun with a pencil" by Loomis and doing all the exercises and I just got into expressions and I genuinely feel like I'm wasting time, however I've been following a certain artist for about 3-4 years now, and she has a very nice yet very simple anime artstyle that I really want to be exactly alike, should I drop loomis and instead learn by observing and working through her art instead?
inb4 ngmi

[Anonymous No.4293456]

>>4293443
Post the artist you filty weeb.

[Anonymous No.4293460]

>>4293443

[Anonymous No.4293470]

>>4293443
There is no skipping the basics. If the basics are too hard for you to do well, how can you imagine drawing the style you like.
Fundamentals and realism is always treated like it's far superior to stylization and much more tedious and hard, when in reality it's much easier then your end goals. Stick with it and keep practicing

[Anonymous No.4293475]

>>4293456
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=2368695
>>4293470
The fundamentals and realism for me aren't hard, they're just somewhat of a bore, I just wonder if perhaps I could mix learning the fundamentals while drawing what I wanna draw instead of stuff I'll never draw ever again.

[Anonymous No.4293482]

>>4293475
Are you a /wwd/ regular?

[Anonymous No.4293485]

>>4293482
I'm not sure what that is, I'm very new to the board, mostly lurking. This is the first time I ask for directions or advice.

[Anonymous No.4293486]

>>4293475
Oh yeah, doodle all you want. You don't have to only spend your time with a pencil grinding fundies. Just doodle what you like AFTER or AS A SIDE to practice. You CANNOT supplement practice with doodling. You can draw whatever you want as manytimes, but don't think that counts as mileage towards building skill

[Anonymous No.4293499]

What is your opinion on the many drawthreads from the other boards?

[Anonymous No.4293506]

>>4291470
How do I learn how to draw human features and anatomy? What tutorial should I follow, I wanna download some good tuts. I download Aaron Blaise and he's too cartoony.

[Anonymous No.4293508]

>>4293443
>https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=2368695
I'm confused is this yaoi involving siblings? wtf

[Anonymous No.4293511]

>>4293499
they are amazed by begtier crap i once drew some half ass sketch and they could'nt stop sucking my cock. but they aren't worth drawing for, they all seem bots desu.

[Anonymous No.4293518]

>>4293508
That's 90% of the fandom sadly, bunch of fujos, while I dislike what the artist does I really like the artstyle and I would like to emulate it for better purposes
>>4293486
Thanks I'll see if maybe I can try to mix what I wanna draw with the fundamentals, maybe practicing with the fundamentals what I wanna draw.

[Anonymous No.4293524]

How do I do landscapes? I can't get myself out of this abstract hell I've put myself in.

[Anonymous No.4293538]

>>4293238
I have been flipping the paper upside down and zooming in to concentrate at one point
>>4293249
I think I get what your saying, so its kind of like drawabox? I'm just a little confused on how you just "draw whats there"?

tbqh im the most /beg/ of /beg/, I just want to draw some bitching tf2 fan art one day, so thx for the help

[Anonymous No.4293539]

>>4293333
You should do both. Level your skills at the same time.

[Anonymous No.4293542]

>>4293538
>>4293238
>>4293249
Its not much, but take a cirno

[Anonymous No.4293572]

>>4293276
can do thanks

[Anonymous No.4293586]

Values?

[Anonymous No.4293613]

aight guys.. I did this cause someone told me to do figure studies to get gud. But now I feel worse than ever. These are the best of 30 1 minute poses. What am I doing wrong? What can I do better? I see people draw up stuff in one minute a thousand times better than what I did. What can I do? Give myself more time? Focus on something easier? idk, I'm absolute beg as you can see.

[Anonymous No.4293617]

>>4293613
Are you following any book?
Don't start from the contour. Draw the longest line you can find in the body, it is usually a line that goes from the top of the head to the toes of the leg supporting most of the weight of body.
Start "adding" the limbs that were left out of the line into another line and then start adding the details of the body.
I had a picture explaining the progress but it seems it like I lost it...

[Anonymous No.4293623]

>>4291470
Okay, I should have brought this up earlier, how the fuck do I make my images not so shitty? I had the resolution and PPI set for this super high but it's still all fucked and doesn't have any anti-aliasing. Is Krita just bad? Should I just suck it up and learn photoshop? And yes, I know I don't know how to color, I've only read about Figure drawing.

[Anonymous No.4293624]

>>4293617
Not following any book right now since I just started the fundie grind for new years resolution, though the anon in the thread i made suggested I read loomis.
Thanks, I'll try that longest line technique in my next session tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.4293626]

>>4293623
use vectors for infinite scaling.

MILE HIGH CLUBBBBBB

[Anonymous No.4293627]

What program do you guys recommend for digital art? I was thinking of gettin clip studio

[Anonymous No.4293633]

>>4293627
look into krita, its a great photoshop alternative

[Anonymous No.4293638]

Man is this stuff hard or what

[Anonymous No.4293653]

>>4293627
Just pirate csp. You can get a cracked version and dl and use all the assets. And pay for the ones that have price.

[Anonymous No.4293655]

>>4293653
any links to a cracked version? and what are assets?

[Anonymous No.4293672]

Clean up/Lineart

I feel like a fag using slight variations of the default pen for my Lineart.

[Anonymous No.4293676]

>>4293672
Don't worry, you're a fag regardless

[Anonymous No.4293681]

>>4293626
Spoonfeed me

[Anonymous No.4293688]

>>4293681
Just for you mile high.

https://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008/12/20-vector-graphic-editors-reviewed/

[Anonymous No.4293697]

[Anonymous No.4293699]

Just starting. Have never drawn before. Did the classic, upside down, pic related.

I know where I screwed up, the right arm is all wrong because I initially drew the lower sleeve too high then didn't know what to do so had to awkwardly connect it, the right hand is too big, and the face is wrong (though it kind of looks ok), among other things.

But I feel the biggest problem is, I spent 4 hours on this. Is this too long? DotRSotB said "thirty to forty minutes - more if possible" so I just spent as long as I wanted. But I have a feeling it is way too long and I should not be a perfectionist with these beginner exercises. Would appreciate a little feedback regarding the pace I should be going at when just starting out.

[Anonymous No.4293701]

[Anonymous No.4293703]

>>4293697
It kinda feels like im missing something on this vut I dont know what exactly

[Anonymous No.4293713]

>>4293703
contrast

[Anonymous No.4293721]

>>4293713
Hmm yeah maybe. So

A. Make the outer lines away from the lightsource even darker, atop on another layer.
B. Add more coloring layets on the render both highlight and shadow

[Anonymous No.4293723]

>>4293240
Thanks anon, the best advice have had on this board. I have started doing vlippu manual to understand the forms and to compensate for my lack of anatomical understanding for now. It will definitely take me months to achieve what you wrote down there but it is doable and worth it. Thanks again

[Anonymous No.4293728]

Gesture drawing practice: How much time are you supposed to spend on each gesture. I've done 20 gestures with the quickpose website in 30 seconds or 1 minute.
30 seconds feels rushed and 1 minute feels like I'm too relaxed.
What's recommended for gains?

[Anonymous No.4293749]

>>4293699
You can't change who you are and how you approach drawing. If you took 4 hours on this you'll probably take a lot of time in more drawings in the future. This exercise is pretty much about getting used to putting marks down, without thinking about how it looks, which is why it's upside down. When you start drawing more you're going to be tempted at times to stop during the beginning stage of the drawing because it will take a while for it to appear like anything, but if you keep going and building up everything it qill alowly start to look like whatever it is you want to draw. Trying to speed up the process to get it to look like something will hinder your growth, and experience making you not like it.

[Anonymous No.4293753]

>>4293728
Post your gestures

[Anonymous No.4293757]

>>4293753
I delete them immediately afterwards. I'll save the ones from tomorrow and do a one minute and a 30 seconds session

[Anonymous No.4293758]

>>4293728
Whatever is comfortable. Most classes I took, the gestures would be a minute or so.

[Anonymous No.4293759]

>>4293757
Try not to delete your shit

[Anonymous No.4293760]

>>4293653
is it only me or do you need to use the keygen every third day? As soon as I open the application after applying the keygen, it reverts back as a 3 day full trial

[Anonymous No.4293761]

>>4293757
>>4293759
What's the point in deleting digital art after finishing it? Sometimes I'll erase shit to make room for other drawings especially if I'm low on paper but it's not like a png of figure drawing practice takes up that much space

[Anonymous No.4293770]

brand new to drawing what should I draw to practice and post here?

[Anonymous No.4293772]

>>4293761
>>4293759
I don't like cherishing what I make. I feel very detatched to what I draw, so I can stay objective. After I finish most drawings as best I can, I throw them away, because they're not that good and anything I've accomplished from sketching, I should be able to do again, since drawing is 100% skill and no happy accident is impossible to recreate without deliberate thought. At least that's my philosophy.

[Anonymous No.4293773]

>>4291470
I think a lot of you guy's art would look better if you just stick to using hard round or brushes with flow enabled for now. Like for example the basic brush Sinix uses in his "beginniner brush" video.

Shading with the soft brush makes it look to muddy and blurry. I've seen a lot of good artists shade with soft brushes but after they reached a high enough skill level to make it look good.

https://youtu.be/-Nt9fa8jZUE

[Anonymous No.4293776]

>>4293443
Do both! Why do you people always want to choose one when you could do both? Oh I get it because that is more work and you are lazy.

[Anonymous No.4293779]

how do i go from sketches to the actual drawing?

[Anonymous No.4293781]

>>4293779
lineart

[Anonymous No.4293784]

>>4293781
i wasn't being very clear, when i try to go from my sketch to my lineart, my lineart always looks weaker than my sketch because when I try to trace my sketch it always slows down
is this a mileage problem or should I not try to follow it perfectly?

[Anonymous No.4293786]

>>4293779
Putting down tone, background, inking or paint, effects if it's comic style, a lot of ways just look at finished pieces and observe what makes them finished. If you're asking how to do all that then you just gotta try it.

[Anonymous No.4293788]

>>4293772
>>4293761
It's easier to ttack what you need to work on, and in the future it would be nice to look back on.

[Anonymous No.4293795]

>>4293784
nost likely you dont know lineweight yet

[Anonymous No.4293798]

>>4293688
Thanks for the reply, but aren't these more for logo designs and such?

[Anonymous No.4293804]

Anyone got any tips on using colors? I can’t draw vibrant landscapes for shit

Pic related is my goal

[Anonymous No.4293808]

>>4293773
So in sai, turn down density, turn up brush size, and change it to hard edge?

[Anonymous No.4293827]

Retarded expressions aside can someone tell my why the one on the right looks more appealing than the one on the left? I drew both a few months apart but the one on the right did a lot better on pixiv and stuff.

[Anonymous No.4293834]

>>4293827
Dunno, both are weak but the left one seems better to me, probably because she has a waist and not just ass connecting to the ribcage.

[Anonymous No.4293835]

>>4293827
warmer colors and softer shading

[Anonymous No.4293839]

>>4293827
Morepopular character? More “POV” than the left. Better background

[Anonymous No.4293906]

I want to get drawing lessons in person but do t know where to look. Any suggestions?

[Anonymous No.4293992]

>>4291576
bottom center 3/4 view nose is huge

[Anonymous No.4293997]

Do I start with drawing on the right side of the brain or keys to drawing

[Anonymous No.4293998]

i might be completely retarded about how im doing this but i sketch out the building on the left with intention of drawing it in a more dynamic perspective, such as the two refs in the pic. so to 'understand' the perspective i drew the long cube and started rotating it upwards until it got to something i wanted. basically what i, going for is 'person is standing in between the stairstep corners/negative space' looking up. are the circled prism adequate for conveying the sketch and keeping all the information about the subject? or am i just doing completely retarded shit

tldr drew my own ref, how to make interesting perspective

[Anonymous No.4293999]

>>4293997
They're both good, Keys is more helpful long term in my opinion. Right side of the brain is filled with a bunch of pesudoscience and relies on graphs for accurate drawings, keys has a page teaching you how to sight-size without using too many marks.

[Anonymous No.4294010]

critique pls

[Anonymous No.4294013]

>>4294010
Use a finer pencil, dont overshade. Bottom of the nose looks unnatural and not shaded. Darker the eyebrows the hair, the hat.

[Anonymous No.4294017]

>>4294013
thanks, figured the values are fucked

[Anonymous No.4294021]

>>4291718

[Anonymous No.4294042]

>>4290855
can we post some more refs?

[Anonymous No.4294057]

Did this scene-thing sketch yesterday.
I've been learning to draw for 3 years or so, so i am pretty beg. I do really want to improve my craft, so i really would like to know and see glaring issues with the piece on this stage.

[Demon Hyo No.4294064]

Anything I should improve on before moving forward? Is this acceptable for a cartoon style style?

[Anonymous No.4294065]

>>4293443
Just do whatever you want

[Anonymous No.4294075]

>>4294064
>Cartoon style
That's anime you've drawn

[Anonymous No.4294081]

>>4294064
maybe look at some feet references

[Anonymous No.4294086]

>>4294064
>>4294064
roomis

theres a fuck ton of errors but the worse is the stiff and unnatural pose also learn how to legs

[Anonymous No.4294091]

>>4294086
not him but you must be pretty damn decent to see errors in that drawing so easily, my beg eyes couldn't see shit. can you post some of your work if it's not too much hassle

[Anonymous No.4294131]

>>4293236
>The stickie says to get rid of symbol drawing.
Draw what you see not what you think you see

draw it as if its an alien object you have never seen before and you need it as drawn as accuretly as possible for research

helped me a lot

Also this video might help:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkmmDJD7QAE

[Anonymous No.4294139]

>>4293653
>>4293655
I got mine off of an invite only site but you can just search pirate Bay for it. I've never had to redo the keygen. Kinda nervous about exposing the name, do you think it'll get tracked here?

[Anonymous No.4294144]

>>4291576
>>4291594
>>4291616
Did what I could to fix the proportions. I think the main problem was the eye and eyebrow were just to low.

[Anonymous No.4294152]

>>4294139
Well honestly I just bought it so you don't HAVE to share your secrets bro but you knowwww......

[Anonymous No.4294156]

I just started my first attempt at a digital illustration thingy from imagination

wish me luck

[Anonymous No.4294158]

>>4294152
not that guy i didnt know people have problem getting csp, i will upload it on mega and post the link here once its done

[Anonymous No.4294174]

>>4294158
I'm this >>4293760
guy. I don't really have a problem getting CSP, in fact, I have downloaded CSP from 3-4 sources on the internet now but that annoying recurring problem is present seemingly only in my program

[Anonymous No.4294184]

>>4293760
you did it wrong

[Anonymous No.4294187]

CSP DOWNLOAD LINK
https://mega.nz/#!iq53iAIC!lNQtTXNRo7lnpjmAyAJqNiMZPYcGKPYbYF4vtetXmMk

>>4294174
hmm you mustve done something wrong, id recommend unistalling and clearing the registry, restarting, turning internet off and doing everything like in instruction, i mean this is what i do when something doesnt work for me, i never had to reapply the crack

[Anonymous No.4294209]

>>4294187
>1 gb

bro the csp is about 300mb, is this doplhin porn?

[Anonymous No.4294222]

>>4294209
sorry man i think its the materials folder

[Anonymous No.4294226]

>>4294222
>utworzenia

[Anonymous No.4294227]

>>4294091
Not redline chan. But an easy way is to try to mimic the pose irl. Does it feel extremely awkward etc. Also do gesture.

[Anonymous No.4294233]

>>4294226
lol sorry for my polski windows

[Anonymous No.4294246]

>>4294042
I think everyone should at-least try the same ref for fun.

[Anonymous No.4294249]

>>4294209
>>4294222
It's legit, this is the same one I downloaded too. Thanks man for uploading. It's a huge learning curve (for me at least) but I'll take my time with it this year.

[Anonymous No.4294257]

>>4293770
Anything. Anything you like. The most important thing is to start.

[Anonymous No.4294297]

I gave her an extra tummy slit for some reason

[Anonymous No.4294381]

>grinding eyes
>eye looks good
>draw the other eye, it fits
>turn in into a full head, vaguely constructed it with ear-brow-nose-chin distance and planes of the head from the Loomis book
Why is it that it looked better than any head drawing I tried so far, where I started constructing it with the Loomis head

[Anonymous No.4294392]

>>4294381
because properly constructing eyes on the curved plane of the face is difficult

[Anonymous No.4294395]

remembering love (macross fucked me up)

[Anonymous No.4294514]

Ultra/beg/ here. Should I get the supplies (brown paper, some specific type of pen) that Peter Han says to have for the Dynamic Sketching Week 1 exercises or would I be OK just with a #2 pencil and white paper?

[Anonymous No.4294518]

>>4294514
dont feel like you have to buy anything anyone recommends, white paper and pencil is fine. get some cheap black pen if you want to do the sketching course because he insists on doing them with a pen but thats it. i mean you can do it with a pencil anyway, try it and buy a pen only if you feel like its not working

[Anonymous No.4294527]

>>4294514
Get the supplies (cheap brown sketchbook, a few Staedtler and a highlight pen) felt-tip black pens are a nice change and you can get some cool effects with the combination

[Anonymous No.4294533]

>>4294514
You can get a pack of three 0.5mm fineliner pens for $1 at a dollar General store

[Anonymous No.4294539]

Tried using construction, what do you guys think?

[Anonymous No.4294568]

>>4294539
>>>4280113/4291897

[Anonymous No.4294573]

>>4294539
>>>/4280113/4291897

[Anonymous No.4294575]

>>4294568
>>4294573
Yikes. Newfag.

[Anonymous No.4294578]

>>4294539
it's flat
try contour lines

[Anonymous No.4294579]

>>4294539
>>>4291897/4280113/
Maybe this time...

[Anonymous No.4294580]

>>4294575
>>4294579
fuck it i’m done

[Anonymous No.4294586]

>>4294539
If you know what’s wrong with it, fucking fix it. It has no neck and you just realized that. Draw it again.

[Anonymous No.4294608]

anybody has some good infographic/video/tutorial about drawing lips with a pencil? like which pencils to use etc.

[Anonymous No.4294613]

>>4294608
it doesnt matter at all. look at an anatomy book i could draw some lips with a stick and a jar of mud

[Anonymous No.4294624]

>>4294613
this is actually the kind of advice I needed, thanks

[Anonymous No.4294650]

What is wrong with the lineart and the overall drawing? It feels rather stiff

[Anonymous No.4294667]

How can i learn line weight in figure drawing ?
I'm trying to do less lines for gesture and push my figures a bit but i can't understand line weight especially in digital.
Who are the best artist that draw from life i can learn from ?

[Anonymous No.4294668]

All of the shitty weeabegs should have to do this. Draw cubes, cylinders and pyramids in 3 point perspective. This is not good or hard or impressive but it is how drawing works. It's how your eyes work. Until you can do this easily with no reference you shouldn't really be copying anime girls. I guess you can for fun if it keeps you motivated but these are the building blocks of drawing and it not looking like flat symbol drawing crap.

[Anonymous No.4294697]

>>4294650
Ok, trying painting the skin

[Anonymous No.4294704]

>>4294697
>>4294650

[Anonymous No.4294714]

>>4294697
maybe take a look at the value pattern, you're missing the core shadow
and remember to have both hard ans soft edges in your shadows https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEjKKiNjvBM

[Anonymous No.4294740]

>>4294714
kind of like this?

[Anonymous No.4294742]

>>4294668
fair point, but stop drawing 20 lines on top of eachother anon

[Anonymous No.4294834]

>>4294742
That's weeabegs™.

[Anonymous No.4294845]

pro tip : if you want to draw anime shit literally just do some drawabox and proko and then watch anime draw tutorials on youtube
i watched a few and now i feel like ive learned more than i did from all these anatomy books suggested here

[Anonymous No.4294875]

>>4291470
Can someone here tell me what a normal impressions to engagements ratio looks like?
Not sure how to interpret percentages under 10%. Also the kind to never chitchat.

[Anonymous No.4294885]

>>4294740
huh i think probably something more like this?

[Anonymous No.4294899]

can i get crit on this please?

[Anonymous No.4294910]

>>4294875
Twitter users care about "their friend" who grows throughout the year. Focus on what you like, not those numbers.

[Anonymous No.4295007]

Can i have some feedback pls ?

[Anonymous No.4295009]

>>4295007
oops i forgot the pic

[Anonymous No.4295040]

>>4293808
Does anyone know? I am very retarded

[Anonymous No.4295042]

>>4294885
Dear god stop and practice your consturctuion

[Anonymous No.4295046]

>>4292244
Looks really interesting and based movie choice.

[Anonymous No.4295050]

What could I do to get better at drawing faces?

[Anonymous No.4295051]

>>4295050
learn to draw hair

[Anonymous No.4295062]

>>4295042
its not mine retard i was responding to his question abt blending

[Anonymous No.4295063]

>>4294899
thumbnail reads well but you're losing a lot of form with your details

use interior lines more intentionally and always try to accentuate shapes/reveal detail

[Anonymous No.4295075]

>>4294010
needs more construction
>>4294064
Construction
>>4294539
You are bad at construction. Use better construction.
>>4295009
Good construction. I like it
>>4295050
Construction

[Anonymous No.4295093]

Starting up digital artwork just now after doing tradart for a while.
Anything to know about XPPEN specifically, and it's tie-in to Photoshop?
Any recommendations on the best keybinds for the 8 buttons + wheel, and the two on the pen?

[Anonymous No.4295104]

>>4295075
What is 'construction' as it relates to art? Also, if I had better "construction", would the result make line art passable? Overall, as it is now, would call the piece "ugly"?

[Anonymous No.4295105]

>>4295009
Good start. Keep adding detail, render shade, line etc.

[Anonymous No.4295114]

>>4295104
Building up a structure made of simple forms underneath as a foundation for the surface.

[Anonymous No.4295118]

>>4294086
I got all that, except the, "learn to draw legs" part.

In what way do you mean I need to improve on drawings legs? Do you mean in understanding how they work, cuz the legs I drew and the legs you sketched out look the same, in the category of basic form; your sketch just looks like they're placed and positioned better. I'm confused.

[Anonymous No.4295121]

>>4295114
Okay, thank you.

[Anonymous No.4295134]

>>4295104
It seems you aren't really using construction. Basically everything can be simplified to 3 basic forms.
Cubes, spheres and cylinders. Think of these 3 basic shapes as being made of play doh, so while it all comes down to those 3 basic shapes, you are free to stretch, twist and bend them to fit your needs.

Look at an animal and before you put pencil to page just start by thinking how, in a very simple fashion, are you going to break said animal using only those 3 shapes given to you.
Its harder than it sounds at first but look up some videos and see how other people do it.

[Anonymous No.4295149]

new

>>4295148

[Anonymous No.4295152]

>>4295134
Thanks. I appreciate the input.

[Anonymous No.4297127]

OH MY GOD YOU FUCKING NIGGERS MOST OF YOU AREN'T EVEN BEGINNERS FUCKO FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[Anonymous No.4297388]

FIND THE DEFICIENCIES WITHIN YOUR ART THEN IMPROVE UPON THEM. IF ONE CANNOT SEE ANY LET OTHERS LOOK. LET WHAT THEY SAY FURTHER YOUR VISION. DRAW AND POST UNTIL IT IS DONE ANONS.