vent thread

[Anonymous No.4280319]

vent about what's bothering you

[Anonymous No.4280321]

>>4280319
HOW THE FUCK DO I DRAW FUCKING CLOUDS

[Anonymous No.4280325]

>>4280321
Hard round brush.

[Anonymous No.4280335]

>>4280319
When ever I see vent threads about art here , I feel i’m stagnating. I can’t shake that feeling away no matter how hard I try. Worse part, I can’t leave this place for some reason.

[Anonymous No.4280338]

>>4280321
Cloud brush obviously.

[Anonymous No.4280342]

I can't draw noses in the correct angle uuu

[Anonymous No.4280344]

>>4280319
My world is a lonely one. Everyone around me is either really good at art or a /beg/ who procrastinates so hard. I feel like I'm the only one whose bad with a decent output rate who happens to lurk behind streams and gather other people's rough sketches.

[Anonymous No.4280385]

>>4280321

[Anonymous No.4280388]

>>4280385
also i think this video tutorial is decent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqMvAB-gHEg

[Anonymous No.4280389]

[Anonymous No.4280391]

My good ideas and *clicking* moments when learning happen days after the relevant moments.
I am glad they happen at all but it means I am a complete retard inside the confines of deadlines where I don't have enough time to think stuff through and click. I just Get It Done™ and have to rely on past experience.
In the context of my course it means my originally submitted work was trash but my summer catch up work was very good.
I need to do every new experience at least twice to learn my mistakes on the first attempt. It seems like other people (the best 3or so in my class) can think through potential mistakes in their heads and get it right first time.

[Anonymous No.4280392]

>>4280389
nothing preventing you from making your own dumb channel and making millions off kids

[Anonymous No.4280397]

REMINDER TO ALL ANONS

Don't stop, keep working at it even if it's hard.
Go at it every day, don't wait until you're in the "perfect mood" to start, just do it and get that milage in.
Respect your body, take care of it, because it's the only tool you keep your entire life.
Study hard and often and do personal work, neither comes before the other.
Art is something you can take into your old age, unlike many other pursuits, so be excited for what your future self might produce!
Stay inspired, be excited, observe things, and keep that visual library going


Quitting will NEVER make you happier, the passion DOESN'T fade away, and you'll regret the time you spent unfocused.
So keep at it, anon! It takes grit, it takes time, but it's the only thing you'll ever want.

[Anonymous No.4280644]

>>4280397
THANK YOU
Unironically

[Anonymous No.4280646]

>>4280397
Your picture is disrespectful of amputees.

[Anonymous No.4280754]

AHH
I'm sick. My throat feels like shit. I feel like I haven't slept in days even though I'm getting more sleep than normal. My normally low attention span is practically non existent. AHH. I just wanna doodle and draw things but they're all coming out so badly right now.

[Anonymous No.4280759]

>>4280385
Love these infographs.

[Anonymous No.4280764]

all of my gains are fake
i literally cannot draw without referencing to the absolute brim and sight copying, every body part every pose even what symbols to use
any real genuine gains are minimum, at best regurgitated symbol drawing
im literally the embodiment of faking it till i make it

[Anonymous No.4280796]

>some faggot posts some patreon fetish shit that looks like absolute crap
>"omg god tier"
>call it out
>"u just jelly lmoa"
Why are there so many of these dunning kruger shit for brains on /ic/?

[Anonymous No.4280801]

>>4280392
Same thing goes for you. Show me that fat paycheck of yours.

[Anonymous No.4280817]

>>4280796
Example?

[Anonymous No.4281038]

I draw anthros and my stuff gets like 0-5 favs if I'm lucky. I know I'm not great but it still hurts when I try and try only to produce shit that nobody likes. I wonder if I drew sexual and fetish stuff if I'd get more attention but I'm not really interested in that. Maybe I should try posting on social media like twitter?

I stopped drawing much or anything for two years then realized I'm not going to get any better by doing nothing so now I draw every day. I hope that someday I get good enough to create something that I'm truly proud of and that others will deeply enjoy looking at.

[Anonymous No.4281072]

fucking christ i CANNOT draw or paint eyes without forcing myself to break it down into a million abstractions or my brain overrides my gains and forces me to symbol draw. any i can never recreate the shape of an eye right when i go into symbol drawing mode.

[Anonymous No.4281081]

>>4280319
Why is starting art so hard. Why are loomis heads so difficult? Why is figure drawing so hard? Why can't I draw?!!!?!?!?

[Anonymous No.4281091]

I can't feel my fingertips from so much drawing and it's still not enough. I'm a lot better though. I just wish I had spent even more time drawing in the past. You gotta live drawing, there's no other way

[Anonymous No.4281092]

>>4280764
Sometimes you're too anxious or too tired and your mind can't access the memory of how the body is shaped. You gotta study and learn anatomy just like any other boring discipline

[Anonymous No.4281095]

>>4280796
Don't waste your time letting other people's stupidity bother you

[Anonymous No.4281197]

>>4280764
>fake it till i make it
But is your finished product is good? Mine is yes, although I absolutely have no idea what I'm doing and I hate myself for that

[Anonymous No.4281255]

I don't like drawing anymore and I wish I could go back to a time of blissful ignorance where I drew whatever I wanted all day long just because I had fun with it

[Anonymous No.4281257]

>>4281197
it doesnt matter if it looks good, its bullshit hacked together and if you put me in front of a canvas and told me to draw a figure id look like a complete retard
the problem too is that im not satisfied at all that i cannot fucking compose a simple figure that muscle memory cannot crutch me out of

[REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE No.4281263]

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.4281264]

No matter what I try, I feel awful I can't paint form as if I'm sculpting. My work is always flat to me, and I have no idea how to build on that to improve that volume in the form. (Just recently posted in artwork begginer thread)

I can't sleep and eat over it, because It's something I absolutely love and Whenever I can someday, i can bring joy to thousands of artists all around the world. I feel awful i don't understand how to yet. I'm a stupid anon that can't learn properly and smartly, and Yet I'm obsessed with Learning Form and light, I'll do whatever it takes to figure this out.

[Anonymous No.4281282]

>>4280385
hello anon, im not the original person that asked but i love you for this

[Anonymous No.4281287]

My own family member paid some random artist, through fiverr no less, to draw icons for his streaming channel. I checked them out and they're bad. I'm beg tier and even I could do better. My whole family knows I draw, why didn't they just ask me? I would have done it for free! At least it would be my cringey drawing and not some randos.

I'm becoming more and more convinced that I'm never gonna make it.

[Anonymous No.4281298]

I lost all inspiration to draw. But I still want to be a artist. I've lost all ideas.

[Anonymous No.4281353]

>>4280319
why can't I finish anything

[Anonymous No.4282288]

I posted in the last /vent/ thread about my difficulties with pen and ink. Listened to those anons and for the past few days I’ve somehow improved like crazy. I’ve tried this medium several times in the past (dozens of times in 4 years), to no avail, and couldn’t figure out what I was doing wrong. No amount of book reading or videos helped me, but by just drawing obsessively I found the answers

[Anonymous No.4282552]

How the FUCK so you get over a art block?

[Anonymous No.4282583]

>>4280319
i can draw good but i'm trying to learn to write good too and people aren't giving me great reviews.
i don't want a co-writer. i just want to be good at writing. hnnng

[Anonymous No.4282599]

>>4282583
i can relate. i've always considered myself a decent writer and okay artist but somehow the gap between decent and good feels much larger for writing than art. it's such an unbelievably slow grind to improve something like fiction writing and way way harder to analyze your own work than drawing a pic of a cute girl or whatever.

[Anonymous No.4282612]

>>4280319
I've been without digital utensils for a month and a half and I want to kill myself after having to go back to pencils and pens
GIVE ME A CTRL+Z IN REAL LIFE
I WANT TO UNDO
FFFFUUUUU

[Anonymous No.4282637]

AAAHHH SHOULD I GO FOR PORN OR NOT AHHHH

[Anonymous No.4282687]

havent drawn in 4 daays caus im lonely
so i spam my husbandos instead

[Anonymous No.4282723]

Everything i draw looks flat even with loomis fml

[Anonymous No.4282734]

>>4280319
What I ask artists better than me for advice to fix a drawing problem and they reply with "Draw more". Or when someone criticizes your work but never tell me what I need to work on. Being patronized by a higher skilled artist due to my lack of knowledge. All that brings my piss to a boil.

[Anonymous No.4282792]

>>4282734
Just draw more man, how hard is it to comprehend that. It's too difficult to try and explain a concept you won't understand because you lack tens of thousands of drawings of experience.

[Anonymous No.4283096]

>>4281287
Me and my morbid curiosity.. I had to pry. He paid over 200$ for those shitty emotes. That mother fucker, I'm gonna freaking draw a whole UI overhaul including tons of emotes. That'll show em.

[Anonymous No.4283109]

Art is very difficult

[Anonymous No.4283114]

>>4280319
I see too many people trying to earn a living off of fan art get super possessive of it like it’s original artwork. It’s one thing to be an actual fan trying to showcase your style. It’s quite another to slap a price tag on it (mostly though lying to print on demand sites that they own the design) and then get upset that they aren’t making money from it. It’s not their intellectual property so I don’t understand the logic of it.

[Anonymous No.4283118]

>>4283096
You have to find commissions somehow if they don’t come to you. Timing is huge with that stuff.

[Anonymous No.4283126]

>>4282687
>husbandos
who are they?

[Anonymous No.4283127]

fuck drawing profile views its so fucking difficult, facial expressions are even worse

[Anonymous No.4283129]

>>4280319
It's been 16 months since she left me fir my best friend, and in those 16 months I have put 0 hours into drawing. Also despite the time, the real physical chest pains of heartbreak are still there. It doesn't go away, and life is passing me by. Feels like I'm living in some kind if novel, I didn't think it could last this long.

[Anonymous No.4283185]

FUCK LEGS
FUCK PERSPECTIVE
AND FUCK MY SHIT UP

[Anonymous No.4283272]

>>4283126
t.khv

[Anonymous No.4283361]

>>4283126
Villpu

[Anonymous No.4283385]

>>4283129
Women are gains goblins. Pull yourself together man.

[Anonymous No.4283424]

>>4282612
What happened to your tablet?

[Anonymous No.4283469]

>draw for fun
>oh god this looks like shit, I gotta do studies
>do studies
>nobody will ever care about these boring ass construction drawings with no theme, story or subject, I gotta draw something fun
>repeat
why am I such a faggot

[Anonymous No.4283479]

>its "artist draws an underage character with big tits and adds "adult" so he wont be canceled" episode
Pathetic

[Anonymous No.4283681]

>>4280319
This bothers me quite a bit, I put in all the pracrice and hours of work while some wamen who can't draw better than a 12 year old and takes a selfie get 100s of likes more, such hacks.

Fuck this world.

[Anonymous No.4283701]

>>4283681
>>4283469
Draw because drawing will make you a better artist, the likes and money will come with skill
>>4283479
Why are you even bothering with this thought, it contributes nothing to you
>>4283114
Whether it's their intellectual property or not is of no concern to you, airs don't feed a hungry belly.
Play the system or don't, they've found a way to make money of their art.
Unless you're the property holder, this is only more options for moneymaking.
>>4283109
It is, you have to want it.
>>4282723
Feel the form, draw the cross-contours, exaggerate because you will tend to flatten.
>>4282637
If you want to
>>4281353
Because you can't push through the most difficult part
It's something you have to practice.
>>4281091
take care of your body, you might be gripping too tight
>>4281038
Keep drawing what you want and learning, doing porn for likes if you don't want to will only push you away.
>>4281255
Why don't you? Go doodle something you think is cool right now

[Anonymous No.4283715]

>>4283701
>just be yourself

[Anonymous No.4283722]

>>4283701
Thats pretty lousy advice anon but thanks anyway I guess.

[Anonymous No.4283752]

>>4282612
Fuck that, use an eraser. Digital "art" is so often incredibly boring and sterile to me. Leave some mistakes, or better yet learn to see them as an unpredictable element for you to use. Even if there are only traces left of a wrong line that you chose to erase, it will make the work more rich in information as a whole - give an impression of movement, make it more alive and more interesting.

[Anonymous No.4283764]

>Work in not art
>Still do art as a hobby and post on social media
>Open up commissions for shits and giggles
>Instantly filled slots
Makes you wonder what could have been. Maybe I could have done this as a career. Oh well.

[Anonymous No.4283771]

>>4282612
Digital art is garbage ,why would you want to make reduced shit?

[Anonymous No.4283776]

>>4283771
yikes tradretard

[Anonymous No.4283783]

>>4283764
pyw

[Anonymous No.4283785]

>>4283776
Prove him wrong then, I'd love to see a digital work of art.

[Anonymous No.4283794]

>>4283361
nooooo

[Anonymous No.4283828]

>anons give questionable crits
>ask them to pyw
>they call me all sorts of names instead of simply posting their work
I don’t know what I even expected of this board.

[Anonymous No.4283837]

>>4283828
You've got it all wrong anon, you shouldn't expect anything from this place.

[Anonymous No.4283841]

>>4283828
Could Arthur Danto not be an art critic for 25 years because he wasn't a successful artist himself?

[Anonymous No.4283845]

>>4283841
That unfortunately doesn't apply to some no name on a board where it's a majority of females and the males don't draw. The females also happen to be very competitive and you know how their competition works, they'll throw you under a bus.

[Anonymous No.4283850]

>>4283837
not him but I hate this place so much. I just want a place to post my shitty drawings where people will actually see them and give instant feedback. social media sucks, no one comments on shit because no one sees your work because algorithms just drown everything out. discords are all full of 13 year olds and trannies and 13 year old trannies and hell, I bet this place is too. no one draws anything but shitty porn here. the internet used to be fun, what happened?

[Anonymous No.4283855]

>>4283850
Then unironically go to reddit.

[Anonymous No.4283862]

>>4283855
I’ve actually tried posting on plebbit as a last resort but I can’t stand the layout. you can’t even reply to a comment with an image there

[Anonymous No.4283865]

>>4283862
Then use imgur to help with that.

[Anonymous No.4283885]

>>4283845
That's be beauty of it though, isn't it? You don't know who's going to reply, and if you have a sincere understanding of what is right and wrong to you specifically you can choose what to retain or discard from any comment.

[Anonymous No.4283888]

>>4283841
It’s not about being a successful artist. If you can’t draw a figure in proper perspective and proper anatomy then you shouldn’t give any art crits since obviously you don’t understand what you’re talking about. Appealing rendering and composition are a different matter.

[Anonymous No.4283894]

>>4283850
If you want instant feedback then do some classes. The internet has spoiled you - here you have a decent platform to post your shitty drawings but give people a day or two to see the post and write something worthwhile. I've been painting and drawing quite a lot the last year and a half, I just don't come here very often.

[Anonymous No.4283907]

>>4283888
People with all sorts of backgrounds will critique you throughout life. If you can not be objective about your own work and recognise if whatever was said could benefit you or not or if it even applies at all, then what could you possibly want to be critiqued for if not to get easy answers and the comfort of not having to actually look and do the work yourself? Who are anyone to critique anything anyway? You can ask for opinions but it's on you to decide whether or not it carries any merit or validity

[Anonymous No.4283922]

>>4283907
You’re right but it’s not just about my own works, I see so much bad advice and crits here, no matter if it’s trolling or not that I generally always ask for people to post their work when I see it. Also because of memes.

[Anonymous No.4283927]

>>4280319
this one retarded anon who sits here literally 24/7 complaining and crabbing is gonna drive me nuts soon. And He Types So Intelligently And Elegantly Like This. no one can say or post anything because its wrong acording to His Majesty

[Anonymous No.4283954]

I only want to draw sad people

[Anonymous No.4283978]

>make social media posts
>mere minutes after posting I realize how I could have done it better
>could have been the tipping point between virality and flop, who knows
>but i already shilled it on every platform, too late now
i'll do better next time, h-haha..... i fucking hate this

[Anonymous No.4283987]

>>4283978
Can you tell me the secrets to being a virality?

[Anonymous No.4284031]

>>4283987
The basic idea is that you need to present content that isn't just "look at this art i drew" that the audience can engage with. Essentially you want to give your viewer a reason to click, then like/rt/comment/whatever, which tells the algorithm that this is a popular post to show to others. Think of why fanart and comics do better than original drawings, often without regard to skill.

[Anonymous No.4284058]

>>4282792
I do not think you understand. I am talking about when one has drawn tens of thousands of drawings but they have hit a wall. When they ask for help "Draw More" is the response they get. I personally find this response to be insulting. Especially when I have shown I have tried to figure the problem out on my own.

[Anonymous No.4284136]

>>4284058
What do you like to draw? Which artists do you admire? Do you look at other peoples works, visit museums or study books? Maybe it would be easier if you made it clear what hitting the wall means to you specifically.

[Anonymous No.4284140]

I need more money but I don't want to work for it.

[Anonymous No.4284303]

>want to be an artist
>skill level of 13 year old that took art classes growing up so not TERRIBLE but nowhere near profitable
>want to spend hours studying a day
>24 yo
>poor
>need full time job to make money to live
>also need free time for personal fitness obsession
>leaves no more than max 5 hours a week to study
>at this rate i wont be at my ideal skill level for over 5 years

reality is often disappointing

[Anonymous No.4284345]

I feel like a hack. I feel like that quote about not only cheating the game, but myself.

[Anonymous No.4284357]

>havent draw at all this year

[Anonymous No.4284468]

>>4284357
lets make sure next year is different anon

[Anonymous No.4284543]

>>4284303
spend one week writing down what you're doing every 10 minutes. if that's not possible, 20. if that isn't, 30, 60; etc. REALLY be honest about the amount of time you have. I say this because if you're able to vent for 5 minutes on 4chan about wasted time, you're already spending time you could be using drawing. 5 minutes drawing is better than 5 minutes not drawing. trim whatever free time you're wasting that isn't furthering your visual (traveling, observation) and storytelling (socializing, studying) libraries.

[Anonymous No.4284557]

>spend three days on shitty drawing
>surprise suprise, it's shit, like always
>learn it was requested by a spammer
everything sucks, ngmi

[Anonymous No.4284564]

>seeing other people's posts effortlessly getting higher numbers than mine ever do within minutes

[Anonymous No.4284569]

>>4284564
Howe man followers, anon?

[Anonymous No.4284573]

w-why can't i still draw perspective

[Anonymous No.4284594]

>>4284543
Thanks for the constructive input anon. Appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.4284665]

>>4284031
Can you make up an example to give? I'm having a slightly difficult time.

[Anonymous No.4284833]

i hate myself for stagnating for years but i finally ventured onto here and started with the fun with a pencil book and it's the best thing i have ever done for myself. i'm only a few pages in, but i'm used to drawing anime sameface and drawing so many varied faces is fun as fuck. i can't believe i didn't bother to look up how guidelines worked until now, but all i can do is look forward and pray i get off this horrible plateau

also, social media is a fucking curse and dopamine will make you stagnate and fall into an endless cycle of soulless coomer fanart for the attention. if you don't rely on commissions for a living, get the fuck off twitter. i deleted mine and i feel 1000x better

[Anonymous No.4284836]

>>4284833
How do I do it senpai? How do I draw anime faces? Especially varied ones? Teach me the ways. I can only draw bodies without faces. It's horrible.

[Anonymous No.4284841]

>>4284836
oh i meant just the cartoony round faces in the first loomis book with different features. i have no idea how to apply any of this to anime yet, will report back in a few months though i guess

[Anonymous No.4284957]

No matter how hard I try I can’t get accepted into art communities and groups and I’m just one of those people on the sidelines getting ignored. I want to find new friends that I can talk about art with but my skill level is just so low and my art so uninspiring that no one takes notice.
I just don’t want to be alone

[Anonymous No.4284963]

I'm better at music than art but I wish I was better at art

[Anonymous No.4284988]

>>4284957
relatable

[Anonymous No.4284991]

>>4284957
>>4284988


I was thinking of making an anonymous instagram to post sketches and things

if we three make an instagram we can start our own art club

[Anonymous No.4285049]

Whenever I attempt to draw using purely my shoulder, I get confused. I know my elbow shouldn't move and yet it slightly adjusts itself as I make large, smooth movements in a way that I know the elbow is designed to move, IE my shoulder is not purely moving. Is shoulder movement for drawing using the entire arm instead of just one or two joints or is it just using your shoulder?

[Anonymous No.4285052]

>>4284564
>effortlessly

[Anonymous No.4285078]

[Anonymous No.4285095]

>>4285078


I have an article for that

hold on

[Anonymous No.4285096]

>>4285078

[Anonymous No.4285110]

>>4285078
i wonder if guys like this realise how serial killerish sad men with no friends appear to girls.

[Anonymous No.4285120]

>>4285110

That's not it

He just has lost his connection to God is all

[Anonymous No.4285198]

>>4285120
unironically this. god and the family unit are what young men are missing these days and that’s why they’re doing so horribly. notice how the guy never mentions going to his father/mother/church for advice. it’s so sad how isolated we all are now.

[Anonymous No.4285239]

>>4285198
I don't think we need the dogma, spirituality or hierarchy of religion but having a sense of community, looking out for your group and meeting up in person frequently is such an important part of life, especially for young men who don't necessarily have other ways of interacting with men or women outside of work.
There has to be a replacement for it.

[Anonymous No.4285264]

>>4282552
Draw what you see, your workspace, object in your room, view out of your window, sketch in a park, copy an artist you like, draw your favorite car, illustrate your favorite book, ask for requests
>>4283469
Combine both
>>4283764
Good for you

[Anonymous No.4285275]

:(

[Anonymous No.4285284]

>>4285078
this image has nothing to do with ic, it's just a negativity image. but desu I think the message of hopelessness probably reaches to some of the artists and other people here, so I'm going to respond to it. This guy is not healthy, what he is saying is not rational. the things this guy needs aren't physical. Therapy isn't about "doing things", it's about talking about feelings and trying to understand the root of your emotional problems. This guy sounds like he has a lot of work to do, starting with opening up emotionally irl safe place -- he needs more therapy. He also should consider depression medication, or inquire about a different diagnosis. If he's that depressed and still has all energy to exercise and eat healthy, then it could be something like bipolar disorder or adhd, and not simply depression. There could even be something like ptsd holding him back from opening up. There's also the fact that he clearly feels superior to other people, which is actually holding him back from being able to communicate properly and maintain any honest relationship. I don't really care of he has "realized the futility of hoping for change," or if he's tired -- he still has to put in emotional labor. His point of view is a spiral of negativity but it's not reality. Things don't have to be that way, it's why we all try to work to make it better. I'm not vibing on this meme, and neither should you. I'm not gonna contribute to any negativity inspired from my response, either.

[Anonymous No.4285603]

Why are people so obsessed with getting art friends? Art friends suck, get regular friends.

[Anonymous No.4285623]

>>4280319
How do I beautify my work?
I have someone's exact canvas size and a drawing of theirs but do not know how to go from /beg/ to talent.

[Anonymous No.4285652]

>>4285603
Because they're emotionally stunted and think that every facet of their life has to be fully enmeshed with their hobby.

[Anonymous No.4285654]

Reeeee why don't we have active study threads anymore

[Anonymous No.4285660]

>>4280319
I've spent my entire art journey learning nothing but cel-shading with gradients, so learning to paint / render is extremely frustrating. Anyone know any good resources?

[Anonymous No.4285787]

It takes me 3 days to complete a single drawing that's on the same level as something a 14 yo on deviantart could make, it is so disheartening

[Anonymous No.4285801]

>>4285787
Next time itll only take 2.5 days anon, then 2, then 1, never give up you gmi https://youtu.be/KxGRhd_iWuE

[Anonymous No.4285802]

>>4285660

It doesn't express his emotion

[Anonymous No.4285805]

>>4285787
Same. It's disheartening, but I couldn't do it before, so it's cool too.

[Anonymous No.4285807]

>>4285660

I love it

but he has such a look of sadness as if he is looking at caesar being stabbed

not self pity but

another emotion english has no word for it

[Anonymous No.4285811]

>>4285660

It makes me feel devastated

[Anonymous No.4285816]

>>4285660

I would marry him

[Anonymous No.4285825]

>>4285660

I'm so sorry

[Anonymous No.4286142]

>>4280646
Don’t need hands to make art

[Anonymous No.4286145]

>>4285660
i highly recommend Max Grecke's art

[Anonymous No.4286155]

>>4285096
Cringe christfag
Praise allah

[Anonymous No.4286222]

It's so fucking stupid how much i want to create, and feel like shit when not trying, yet at the same time being so fucking devoid of creativity and inhibited in everything I do.

[Anonymous No.4286223]

>>4286222
I was like this until I started expanding my visual library.

[Anonymous No.4286238]

>>4286223
Idk, I feel like I'm following artists from a wide variety of style and main interests (eastern / western, medieval, sci-fi, boys, girls, kemono, xeno, scaleshit, every possible type of lewd shit under the sun involving said topics). Like I said, I feel inhibited in everything I do. Feels like I could never build up the courage to put an original design of mine out there

[Anonymous No.4286239]

>>4286222
I feel you. I'm always looking for requests to complete so that I don't have to think for myself.

[Anonymous No.4286347]

>>4286238
That's what I meant, anon. Draw objects, animals and weird things, not what other people draw. Then you'll be able to implement those things you drew into your own designs.

[Anonymous No.4286428]

I feel like my future for a decent living is diminishing in my late 20s. But after all of the searching, art really never left my palette of interests. Been drawing off and on for like ten years, but heavily procrastinate because I have crabs in my head that just create a bunch of anxiety and insecurity, even if I'm to myself. Though in the past two years I've been drawing, I've made a few pieces I've liked- which I never really get to feel much. Despite drawing more, I don't think my fundamentals have improved significantly but then again, I do procrastinate on practicing a lot. I think the only thing I've truly honed, is a confident stroke.

My goals for 2020 is to draw more, especially practicing perspective, anatomy overall, and poses. I recently downloaded CS6, and been experimenting with settings- I hope to at least get the barebones of Digital more. But ultimately, I want to get into a passion I've neglected with art, specifically oil painting. I hope this year that I will overcome my internal crabs and anxieties, and become confident enough to at least do one oil painting. And to actually put on paper my ideas of my own graphic novel- I watch bouts of creativity in my head, yet I never write or draw anything about it.
>>4284957
I don't even want to be in a community necessarily. I'm more into traditional, so I don't really think I can fathom art friends realistically. Though yeah, I just want a few friends, even one would be nice, to actually just discuss art with.
>>4285603
I actually miss being in an art classroom where we talk about how our own projects are going and seeing people improve and want to do better is a very uplifting feeling to me and motivates myself because I know I won't be the only one who cares. If I can just share these feelings with at least one person, I'd be grateful. I just want some mutual motivation going on, no true judgment, constructive talk, and maybe fucking around here and there.

[Anonymous No.4286441]

>>4282583
Read more books

[Anonymous No.4286449]

>get messaged asking if i do commissions
>just post practice pieces
>no idea how to price work
>he wants me to draw his dying grandpa

JUST
https://youtu.be/a01QQZyl-_I

[Anonymous No.4286572]

Good I am so annoying. I truly am a drain on everyone.

[Anonymous No.4286584]

>>4286572
im sorry anon

[Anonymous No.4286588]

>feeling good about art progress lately
>randomly get an insult about a weakness in my art im well aware of
>feel demotivated and can't make shit for a while
fuck i hate it

[Anonymous No.4286592]

>>4286588

[Anonymous No.4286596]

>>4286592
thanks anon...

[Anonymous No.4286597]

>>4286592
Okay, so what does that mean. Just stop being a fool?

[Anonymous No.4286603]

I've been improving a lot lately, and have been having great success with my imagination drawing. I feel like I can actually think of stuff, and then draw it somewhat comfortably.

Problem is, I can never bring myself to actually finish anything. My line art sucks, my painting skill sucks, but I don't think I should wait before I'm a pro at drawing to start working on them. I want to actually finish shit, but I just cant! Maybe it's hard because now I actually am getting results, compared to before, when I had nothing to look at, so my only choice was to pick something I didn't enjoy / know very well, and get somewhat comfortable with it.

I'm not very good at the moment, but I think I've surpassed the "guy on deviant art drawing ponies in diapers" kinda level, and yet I look at those same people and they actually have shit painted, lined and finished, and I've got nothing to show for myself. I just want to have something drawn from imagination I can actually call finished. It doesn't need to be good, or even passable, I just want to look at it and say "hah, I actually pushed this turd all the way out, I'm proud of myself!"

[Anonymous No.4286697]

>>4280319
I’m so fucking overwhelmed by art at the moment :(

I have ADHD and have a bad tendency to try to leave things once they get too complex for my understanding and I don’t want to to happen with art! There’s just so many resources and things to practice and I just don’t know what to do. I’m working on humans and I’m trying to do some figure drawing but I also wanna learn perspective. I also wanna learn loomis. I also have some drawabox lessons to do and some books to finish. I want to be great at drawing but my brain just can’t study concept by concept in an organized fashion and I’m just so frustrated.

[Anonymous No.4286712]

>>4280385
Not the same anon, but here's another helpful one.

[Anonymous No.4286723]

Art isn't worth it
You either do what people want, bending and breaking to their whims just to be noticed, or you do what you want and dissolve into obscurity, being the sole spectator of your work no matter how much time and effort you've put into it

[Anonymous No.4286898]

I haven't gotten any comments on the last 4 drawings I've uploaded. Am I that bad? Are people intimidated by motorcycles? Is it just boring? I don't understand.

[Anonymous No.4286911]

>>4286592
What it means is Anon wacks off to yadokugaeru. Not good Anon. Not good.

[Anonymous No.4286973]

>>4286723
Life is all about sacrifices anon, everyone has to make them one way or another. Eliminate the idea that things are "fair" or "unfair", either accept lonliness and obscurity or accept that you want to connect with others more than anything.

[Anonymous No.4286976]

>>4286898
Could be all of that or just no luck on getting someone to bother critting.

I'm just a hard beg but I see that your wheels aren't round and the exhaust pipe isn't straight.

Also something about perspective but I'm in no position to properly critique that.

[Anonymous No.4287319]

I wish people liked the work I post.

[Anonymous No.4287385]

Remove /pol/ immigrants from this board

[Anonymous No.4287440]

>>4280319
DAMN TALENTS HOW DARE YOU HAVE GOOD LINEART WHILE ALL I CAN DO IS WATCH AND SUFFER THROUGH MY MEASLY ATTEMPTS THIS DESPAIR IS MADNESS GIVEN FORM AND THE UTTER NERVE OF NON-TALENTS TO NOT EVEN TRY

[Anonymous No.4287443]

>>4287440
Anyone who finds Danganronpa's art style appealing has faulty eyes and is sadly NGMI.

[Anonymous No.4287457]

>>4287443
Don't you get it anon? Danganposting is the best way to grieve about talents and regulars in this world.
Cramming what should be years of catchup to be good now, being the only one to axe off a healthy life for such goals, dumping 6 hours only to make something bad, it's all so sickening.

[Anonymous No.4287522]

>>4286441
solid advice honestly

[Anonymous No.4287531]

How do I break my internet addiction so I can go back to drawing all the time?
I hate to admit it but the last time I drew constantly and frequently was when I was experimenting with furry bait.

[Anonymous No.4287535]

I just want to draw anime yet i cant grasp my head around loomis method no matter how hard i try

[Anonymous No.4287601]

I was a fool for trying to have an art carrer

[Anonymous No.4287965]

How the fuck can i enjoy art it feels like nothing but frustration of trying to understand and anxiety and frustration of repeating the same failures.

[Anonymous No.4288267]

What is with all the porn spam as of late? The coomers need to stay in one thread, because their investing the whole place with thus trash.

[Anonymous No.4288339]

>>4285275
):

[Anonymous No.4288427]

>>4287535
Literally just draw a sphere instead of a circle

[Anonymous No.4288538]

>>4283385
I'm trying, my dude. I'm trying.

[Anonymous No.4288539]

>>4280385
Wow that's helpful

[Anonymous No.4288572]

I can feel my IQ going down being forced to witness retarded drama on twitter, the latest one over that shitty comic is actually putting me over the fucking line. Why is the audience of one of the only viable art sharing platforms filled with self-aggrandizing clout-chasing cock-sucking clown-calling self-unaware underage preachy literal brainlets who simply lack any capability to shut the fuck up. and these are the people i'm supposed to fucking cater to

[Anonymous No.4288845]

I am TOO FUCKING IMPATIENT. I need to stop rushing but I have unrealistic expectations for how quickly I should be able to get through the sketching/construction/linework and everything I make suffers for it.

[Anonymous No.4288857]

>>4288572
no one is forcing you to read these twitter threads especially if they dont involve you or your art

[Anonymous No.4288930]

>>4280319
Im finally coming to terms with how toxic and harmful this board has been for me. There isnt any visual aid provided for 95% of crit here. A board about art&crit is mainly text. Everyone is constantly trying to prove everyone wrong. There are several obvious trolls that succesfully bait people every single day. Everyone recommends some random books and courses but i cant see anyone posting effects of these. Mods are nonexistent. /pol/ schizos are in almost every thread. The negativity of this board is somewhat addicting, reading all these shitstorms gives an adrealine rush, its just unhealthy. It normalized namecalling and shitting on people for me and I feel awful about it. If the level of work posted here matched the egoism and confidence of the posters, this board would be a fucking art gallery. But its not, and yet everyone here claims to know everything. And its actually embarrassing to admit that you frequent this place to anyone out there, because it's absolutely not associated with high level work and good advice. It all comes down to le 4chan edgelords defending this "culture" and enjoying being able to call people nigger and tranny because in real world it would get them in serious trouble. I feel ashamed that I spent so much time here when it couldve been spent drawing or doing anything productive. So my new years resolution is to stop coming here, or at least stop posting and engaging in any "discussion".
Still, I want to thank guys in animation, video and artbook threads - i have no idea why you endure all of this crap and still want to help others.
end of vent

[Anonymous No.4288933]

>>4280391
Who woulda thought that learning from mistakes could cause improvement...

[Anonymous No.4288938]

>>4288930
Getting a life seems like a good idea, maybe you should learn some critical thinking too.
Good luck dude

[Anonymous No.4288950]

>>4288572
Use twitters built in feature to block common words that people use during drama. I have a massive list containing "Trump, Donald, Incel, alt-right, Nazi,Liberal, Hatespeech, Impeachment, LGBTQ, Gay rights and just about every form of -phobia or -phillia"

I personally don't lean either direction, nor am I against anyone's sexuality or gender identification. I would sooner just forego having my feed clogged with anything other than art, and generally the artists I follow and truly value dont write any of my no-no words in their post, meaning I see only their art and the occasional shitty meme

[Anonymous No.4288954]

Why won't people who give questionable/shitty advice or crit post their works? It would be so easy to prove them wrong and it wouldn't waste anyone's time this way.

[Anonymous No.4289008]

i keep using my wrist and expect my chicken scratches to improve

[Anonymous No.4289060]

>>4289008
Conscious effort is required. Otherwise your already learned muscle memory will take control.

[Anonymous No.4289124]

>>4280319
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
ALL THE ART BOOKS I WANT ARE EXPENSIVE AND THERES NO TORRENTS OF THEM ANYWHERE

[Anonymous No.4289138]

>>4286976
The exhaust pipe isn't supposed to be straight.

[Anonymous No.4289152]

>>4289124
One book at a time anon. I don't know how rare the books you're looking for are, but that's how I started collecting artbooks anyways.

[Anonymous No.4289170]

>>4283776
Yikes hackjob

[Anonymous No.4289222]

>>4280319
I hate that i know where everything goes, but can't place it correctly. I've been so burned out that I can't even draw a circle properly. Something so basic and I manage to fuck that up. I just want to be successful but everything around me reminds me that i'm a failure.

[Anonymous No.4289240]

>>4280319
I take months hiatus between full drawings and get more out of practice each time and when I attempt to draw I get frustrated for being out of practice because I feel like I don't have passion to draw anymore and my mind only pulls blanks when trying to think of ideas. Visualizing and feeling the form is also difficult for me now, it's used to be intuitive but now I lost it. F. All my own fault really

[Anonymous No.4289272]

>>4283681
Anon, they aren't liking it for the art.

[Anonymous No.4289314]

>>4289272
I know that, its still fucked.

[Anonymous No.4289382]

>>4283681
9 times out of ten people who post stuff complaining like this have lousy work with no appeal. they waste their time with anatomy studies all day, but believe it or not people actually prefer finished pictures.

[Anonymous No.4289388]

>>4289382
>they waste their time with anatomy studies all day,

10/10 you're a retard, go back to your anime beg shit.

[Anonymous No.4289393]

>>4289388
you can only polish a turd so much anon. how many anatomy studies do you have in your inspiration folder?

[Anonymous No.4289416]

>>4289393
why does that matter? You do realize that anatomy is the hardest and takes longest to perfect? But I guess someone who only draws cartoons wouldn't know that.

[Anonymous No.4289427]

I need to vent about Moderndayqueef's latest "figure painting" video, and that he's still unable to measure, and that the only chap that calls him out for it in the comments has to put up with his little queeflings coming at him, poor sap

[Anonymous No.4289572]

It pains me that no matter how much you get better or work none of it means anything unless you actively go out there to get to know people. Everyone claims that they only judge by the art but that's not true and people who say that are full of shit.

People have a hard time admitting that it's about the artist themselves, too. Why else would there be such a big movement to diversify the kinds of artists that are hired? Because people only really want to hire people that they know or familiar or share a connection with. If you have to choose between hiring two artists you probably going to choose the one that you have a more personal connection with to whether that be they were recommended by a friend or you look similar to each other or share cultural influences. It happens all the time. In my experience only Asian people tend to be the most objective when it comes to that. White men, overall, tend to be the worst.

Yet, having to go out there and get to know people so you can kiss their ass takes time away from working. It's so fucking annoying and degrading when the person is a grade A asshole..

[Anonymous No.4289576]

>>4288930
It's very toxic here and /pol/ invading every board isn't helping anything. I do appreciate the resources here, but overall being here less is better.

[Anonymous No.4289577]

>>4289572
Word of mouth is enough, if you were the next kim j and posted your work here you would easily be popular on twitter in days

[Anonymous No.4289579]

>>4289577
Do you know how long Kim J's been out before he started getting hired by American companies? A long fucking time. Mediocre artists get hired all the time, but Kim J STILL had to prove himself in order for someone to finally hire him.

It's insane.

[Anonymous No.4289630]

>>4281287
Don't let those fags to drag you down anon.

[Anonymous No.4289825]

>:( It's hard for me to think of what to draw

[Anonymous No.4289840]

>>4289825
expand visual library

[Anonymous No.4289853]

>>4289840
Thank you I will go study bugs now :)

[Anonymous No.4289865]

getting real sick of artists overdoing chromatic aberration to death. it can be tastefully executed but when every single picture has it, it's just an eyesore

[Anonymous No.4289870]

I suck at drawing and even though I want to get better, everytime i draw something i cringe at my lack of talent and stop drawing altogether for months at a time.

[Anonymous No.4289915]

>>4280319
My ability to perceive what is good is far above my ability to produce what is good.
I almost never finish anything because I think everything I do is shit.

I think I should be doing better even though my ability is somewhat above the average artist for my age.
In a way it's helping me improve faster because I can nip things in the bud before they become a habit as a result of me being incredibly self critical.

But it's so exhausting drawing literally hundreds of unfinished things a week to maybe have one thing I like out of all of them. I usually don't finish it anyway.
I have exactly zero finished digital pieces and scant finished traditional ones since I find it easier to complete a traditional piece.
I have little patience

I surround myself with art and pieces of the old masters.
They are my main inspiration and it's really discourages me how many of them were able to get apprenticeships at a fairly young age because of the society they lived in fostered that sort of thing.
Most of the people I knew have gone off and are at college furthering their careers while I feel left in the dust.
I couldn't justify going to an art school because there was no way I was going to be able to pay for it even with financial aid. Even though I could've made a kick-ass portfolio to get in a nice one.
I'm also a hopeless romantic.
Also no one will hire me so I can't take another single class at my community college next semester because I'm broke.

I try to think positive thoughts.
I tell myself that one day I'll be the greatest artist in the world.
And believe me I will, it's just tiring.
and my internet fucking sucks ass

okay, whining is over. Back to studying,

[Anonymous No.4289918]

>going fast mode just makes me subpar and have to go snail mode for anything competent
>can't think of cool stylizations on the spot seriously how do people think up this shit
>"oh cool this looks nice lets try it again-- oh it look like shit that ruins the mood"
>everyone makes their stuff look so easy

constant depreciation over myself has been ensuing more and more in my mind as the days go by or at least i imagine thats how people would think of me if they loomed behind observing any sad excuse of an effort i make

[Anonymous No.4290002]

>>4289853
GMI

[Anonymous No.4290056]

>>4288572
>and these are the people i'm supposed to fucking cater to
Fuck, no.
I stay in my niches, draw the stuff that I like and that gets appreciated for what it is.

[Anonymous No.4290066]

It's been what, 5 or 7 years and my art is barely passable, and then it's just generic shit. No voice, no aesthetics, I should just give up and be contempt being code monkey for the rest of my life.

[Anonymous No.4290068]

>>4285284
retard

[Anonymous No.4290076]

>>4289870
Yeah mate I think you not drawing for months is the reason you suck

[Anonymous No.4290079]

>>4290076
DON'T YOU THINK I KNOW THAT REEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.4290081]

>>4290079

[Anonymous No.4290091]

Why is being LAZY SO FUCKING EASY

I JUST HAVE TO DO IT! JUST FUCKING DRAW
WHY DO I WASTE
SO MUCH
TIME
I ALREADY KNOW WHY BUT GODDAMNIT IT MAKES ME MAD

[Anonymous No.4290105]

>>4290091
anon maybe being lazy is easy for you because it’s more than being lazy. it’s kind of running away. as you stated, when you draw, you are faced with your “lack of talent” (bullshit btw since talent isn’t a thing), which makes you uncomfortable so you run away and procrastinate. what i would say is, since you are still very much a beginner, there is no need to worry so much about how good you are. no one, and i mean ABSOLUTELY NO ONE is “naturally good” at art. when you first start grinding your fundies and try to apply them in any way to an actual drawing it’s going to look shit. that might as well be a universal constant. you probably feel like running away from drawing because you have this weird standard to draw “good” even though no one expects that from you. i’d say just relax, and do the grunt work that all great artists had to do at one point or another, and don’t feel like there’s some standard you aren’t meeting because your first steps are shaky.

[Anonymous No.4290108]

>>4290105
lul.
that's not me, that's another fag, but the same principles you outlined apply.

[Anonymous No.4290196]

What the FUCK is wrong with me.
I'm not sick, I do all this "healthy" shit and I don't smoke or do drugs, I'm not addicted to any substances etc. etc.
So why the FUCK the MOMENT I start drawing it feels like all energy leaves my fucking body and my hands turn limp like an old man's dick?? I don't even hate my art, I think it looks from passable to decent and I know it can get even better the more I do it but why the FUCK is it so fucking DRAINING. I force myself to keep fucking going and end up felling completely run down after so much as finishing a SKETCH.
I hope whoever says that art is like "meditation" for them is either trolling or does nothing but finger-paints.

[Anonymous No.4290207]

>>4290105
>ABSOLUTELY NO ONE is “naturally good” at art
Bullshit
"When I was a kid I drew like Michelangelo. It took me a lifetime to learn to draw like a kid" - Pablo Picasso

[Anonymous No.4290294]

>>4290196
lack of instant gratification syndrome?
Award yourself with a chocolate or something after a sketch.
Then do squats so you dont become a fatass.
Then sketch again.

[Anonymous No.4290335]

>>4290294
Not OP, but what does instant gratification have to do with energy literally leaving you body the moment you start drawing? I swear you guys just project your own problems and insecurities onto others. OP clearly just doesn't like drawing but feels like they /have/ to do it, probably because they're "decent" at it. They should find something they actually enjoy and not force/condition themselves into liking it like they're Pavlov's dog with chocolate or other nonsense

[Anonymous No.4290339]

>>4290335
>what does instant gratification have to do with energy literally leaving you body the moment you start drawing
Because your body automatically know drawing won't give you that dopamine hit as quickly as say browsing reddit for quick cat pics or shitposting on /v/

[Anonymous No.4290393]

>make friends with fellow art students at my college
>all of them are completely unaware of art education outside of our college courses
>they don't even know normie stuff like proko
>any time i recommend them art education media like gurney/hampton/huston/vilppu etc they never follow up on it
>eventually one of them asks about a recommendation i made before, says its too expensive to buy
>tell him how to get it for free, "but anon, thats stealing"
>never tell anyone else how to get stuff for free again
>they either never draw stuff on their own or they just badly copy photographs of celebrities
>none of them ever talk about art, artists or the career aspects of the entertainment industry
>talk about movies, tv shows and games, but not the art production aspects
>ask them what careers they want to pursue, "idk lol thats so far away anon"
>they mostly talk about youtubers and tictoc unrelated to art that ive never heard of
>feel like its a waste of time even being friends with these people but cant escape them without having the entire class turn against me

[Anonymous No.4290403]

>>4290393
This is why art friends suck. I have one that's a very talented normalfag but never draws anything and another one who is always complaining about not improving when he never sits down to study in the first place.
Just enjoy your journey with /ic/

[Anonymous No.4290418]

>>4290393
How's art school? Curious.

[Anonymous No.4290422]

>>4290393
internet artist culture is vastly different from art colleges, not sure what you were expecting

[Anonymous No.4290429]

>>4281263
Put on the autosave feature to a higher frequency?

[Anonymous No.4290515]

>>4290418
Gives me a place to go and a schedule to keep.
The figure drawing classes are good, teacher has good critiques and recommends good teachers/artists to study from, people I see recommended on /ic/ all the time.
The other classes are a bit bare bones (environment design, animation, viz dev, art history), the teachers stick to their curriculum very tightly and I learn most of my actual gains at home from books and videos I see on /ic/.
I often get frustrated asking teachers questions about stuff I need help with like stuff from scott robertsons book or james gurneys color and light. I ask them questions about the subjects and they either don't know what Im talking about and go off on a tangent or tell me that i dont need to know that. Rarely they give a good answer that helps me, mostly the figure drawing teacher.
I am envious of hearing about people who draw as a group as students and do extra stuff together outside of class time because the people at my course just come to class and go home and never do anything outside together. Ive tried to start group stuff but people dont want to invest the time or dont want to do the same thing as my suggestions (extra life drawing, extra painting sessions - for some reason everyone except me hates painting)
I personally still think it is worth it because I am so bad at setting my own schedule and staying inside my house too much so it helps me there. Plus it makes me think about art 24/7 because doing homework for the course puts me into work mode where I can start my own personal work after. But I feel very alone even among 25 other art students with supposedly shared interests.

[Anonymous No.4290652]

>>4290207
anon, a lot of time, when people ask masters their “secrets”, they tend to get on this high horse and make up a bunch of whimsical sounding trash to inflate their ego and make them seem like gods. not all do, but usually when an aspiring painter asks a more experienced one “how did you choose the colours” or something like that, they’ll say “it just came to me” or some other bullshit. in reality, every stroke of the greatest painters come as a result of technical knowledge that can only be accumulated with practice.

[Anonymous No.4290707]

I can't get used to screen tablets. Having to track both the tip of the pen, and the cursor itself (from which the ink flows) gives me headaches

[Anonymous No.4290718]

>aged on by not doing much art at all just always too pressured of failure
>get the sudden urge to not give a shit anymore and want to dig deep and try for real before i age even more
>so many people younger than me improved vastly during my slump phase
>thoughts of feeling like its impossible to play catch up now to match what i could have been if i hadn't been a slouch occur

I really really wish i could just reset time and make up for the better of myself. If only I knew how important time was. Anyone else ever experience this same issue? This just feels embarrassing.

[Anonymous No.4290745]

>drew a cute guy
>he found my personal account
>he didnt say anything about my artwork and just bullied me for being ugly along with his friends


i know i shouldnt be that upset and im going ot but the humiliation for my appearance keeps happening, so all that shit make

>drawing
>getting a qt non normie bf
>not being judged for my appearance


seems hopeless

p.s. i can dm screens/pics of the whole thing but i m not posting it publicly

[Anonymous No.4290753]

>>4290718
I'm 29 and 2 years into a 4 year course. Felt embarrassing at first being the older dude and everyone reacting to my age (I look younger and everyone assumes you are near 20 starting college) but I just stopped giving a shit and honestly everyone just forgets the age gap quickly as long as you dont try to act like you deserve respect for being older or something.
You just have to think of how much time you have left and act to not waste any more time. 20 year olds think they are going to live forever and waste a ton of time. You can easily out perform younger peers just by being disciplined and not wasting time on bullshit.
If the reason you didnt start until late age is because of lack of discipline then you need to sort that out first.
My outlook now is to just have a better 30s than how my 20s went. I want to look back in 10 years and feel like I did everything I could have to achieve my goals. Because I am right there with you about wishing I could go back and redo parts of my life, but you cant. So make sure you arent thinking the same thing in 5.10.20 years about right now.

[Anonymous No.4290775]

saved this awhile ago.

[Anonymous No.4290783]

how does this guy has a fanbase (small but still)

[Anonymous No.4290795]

How do I stop losing motivation whenever I see a good artist?

[Anonymous No.4290798]

>>4290795
save the best image/s to your inspiration folder to study later

[Anonymous No.4290810]

>>4290795
Do a master study of the art and delude yourself into thinking you are as good as that artist because you can copy.
Get a boost in confidence and draw your own stuff quickly before the inevitable crash and burn. Grind fundies while in the pit of despair. See art you really like. Do a master study...
Loop and repeat until good.

[Anonymous No.4290815]

>>4290795
I actually get motivated to emulate and improve upon what I like in better art

[Anonymous No.4290825]

>>4290795
Aspire to be one of them instead of bringing yourself down.
Get cleared defined goals. I.E parts you wanna work on, shading, prespective, the whole fundies. Learn then over and over until you discover something that you didn't knew.
Good luck
>>4290798
Also do this. It's nice to look at good art.

[Anonymous No.4290874]

>>4290753
>tfw 19
Really put shit in perspective. Especially the discipline stuff.

[Anonymous No.4290876]

>>4290775
True.
The "talent" aspect is the drive one has to persist.
everyone can draw and paint but very few are willing to sit down and do the work.

[Anonymous No.4290893]

>>4290753
I feel the same way, but I'm 28 finishing my degree into a stem course.

In the end, I just want to get a job to pay my bills and study art in the rest of my time.

[Anonymous No.4290894]

>read book
>read carefully and look at the drawings trying to see if I understand any of it
>trace drawings in my mind
>write pointers whenever I feel like I understand the concept
>ok time to practice what I've learnt.jpg
>why the fuck am I making all these random lines on page? I can't even capture the entire pose anymore
>this doesn't work!
>I can't do any of this right!

Ugh in my mind everything seems right but when I put pen to paper turns out I know nothing

[Anonymous No.4290896]

>>4290718
Why do you feel like you have to "catch up" with other people? Focus on being better than you were yesterday, the gains will come.

When it comes the time to battle for a job offer, then you start worrying about others, and even then only how to beat them and get your job, not victimizing yourself or thinking you're not worth it.

Focus on small victories, you'll get there, fail your way to the top anon.

[Anonymous No.4290957]

You know. I often think that mental state, and the ability to draw things coherently come hand to hand. Stuff like self-confidence, stress, discipline.
I should probably improve on myself before I pick up the pen again. And study.

[Anonymous No.4290960]

>>4290393
>but cant escape them without having the entire class turn against me
But it doesn't sound like you really care about the rest of your classmates. So I do not see why escaping would be a problem. Whatever that means.

[Anonymous No.4290978]

>>4290795
I get this way too anon like the better artist looks down and scoffs at me but whatever a person may think shouldn't concern you anyway. Even if someone may be better than you (and there will be this goes for everyone) what should be the main priority is getting to the stage that you desire. Think of art as a more personal individual experience with no one else applied. It's okay to think of other art but maybe don't think the artist behind it all.

[Anonymous No.4290980]

>>4280319
I've seen a lot of mediocre furry artists making big bucks on commissions lately. Charging over a $100 a piece, and clarifying that "it's not first-come-first-serve i'm going to pick the most interesting commissioners." It might just be jealously, but they make me question why I would ever hesitate about posting my art online. I could be making so much if I just spent time building up a reputation in the furry community.

[Anonymous No.4290995]

>>4290960
I guess I just mean I am frustrated that investing in a friendly atmosphere (basically required if I don't want to be a lone weirdo for the rest of the length course) with my classmates means wasting time talking about random bullshit instead of doing art related projects or career preparation.
From seeing videos and talking to people at festivals/cons, teamwork and networking is going to be a huge part of an entertainment design career.
But now that i've vented I feel like im being a bitch and need to step up and lead by example if I want my class friends to see that there is benefit to doing personal projects and extra figure drawing clases etc.

[Anonymous No.4291011]

whiners

All o' yah

[Anonymous No.4291087]

>>4286898
I like the composition, work on making forms more 3d, study perspective so things line up properly, and study bikes because this bike looks made up.

[Anonymous No.4291296]

>>4290795
Easy, stop looking at other people's art and if you want to see titties, draw some titties.

[Anonymous No.4291314]

>>4290896
i don't like to compete so much but it does reflect onto my own self a little

[Anonymous No.4291630]

why THE FUCK do larger artists follow and give likes to smaller artists but not retweet? its such a tease.. they have to know that they're toying with your sanity when they do a quick pass over something you obviously worked hard on and then go on to retweet garbage from someone with 10k followers.. are they going out of their way to keep small artists small to hoard more eyes for themselves? or am i being a schizophrenic faggot?
the numbers game really gets to you.. it feels like no matter how hard you try its just not good enough

[Anonymous No.4291749]

>>4290995
Just find the 2 or 3 people with the most potential in your class and try to hang out with them slowly pushing them towards your no life lifestyle

[Anonymous No.4291973]

>>4286898
It's slightly off but I love this actually. The angling you got going on here is rad as fuck and I don't think I could do better. My shit is so flat compared to you, should be proud of this drawing.

[Anonymous No.4292102]

>>4280319
How does one turn down an art trade, politely? What excuse do you guys say to the other person?
I have a slight feeling this follower of mine just wanted a free art. If not, well I really don't want to entertain free requests

[Anonymous No.4292195]

>>4289579
His friend filmed him on a shitty flip phone and that video went viral on yt that's how he became famous and went to the states. KJG made it by RAW skill.

[Anonymous No.4292696]

>>4290795
Anger unironically, hate yourself and be obsessive with becoming the best.

[Anonymous No.4292751]

>>4292102
Just dont reply...

[Anonymous No.4292757]

>>4292696
I already do this and don't have much motivation, it's just destructive.

[Anonymous No.4292772]

Please someone kill me.
I'm a failure of a artist.

[Anonymous No.4292785]

>>4281255
do you get paid for your work?

[Anonymous No.4292789]

It's already the fifth day of the new year and I have yet to draw once.

[Anonymous No.4292815]

>>4292789
get your hands on some weed and draw pinups

[Anonymous No.4292816]

I can only draw porn and I feel like less of an artist because of it.

Truthfully, I feel like when I see a lot of great art (that isn't porn) of like amazing fantasy landscapes or scenes (pic related) or just a slice of life scene with amazing color and value, I feel like I could never do that. Like, it's not a matter of learning the technique; I could obviously if I spent enough time learn the technique to get to that level. But I don't feel like I have the creativity, the eye for color, or the originality to come up with my own concepts... y'know, the stuff you can't learn.

So I just stick to what I know. Chubby girls with comically huge tits and ass getting fucked by black guys in various sexual positions. And it makes me feel like I'm not a real artist because I'm not creating real art.

[Anonymous No.4292818]

>>4292816
Pyw

[Anonymous No.4292828]

>>4292815
MAN, it's been three months. I've been broke and the place I used to go to get it cheap got shut down.

[Anonymous No.4292838]

>>4292828
do you have healthcare?

[Anonymous No.4293054]

>>4284357
It’s only 5 days into the year, you’ve got time to change your attitude.

[Anonymous No.4293153]

>scared I won't finish something on time
>won't even start because I'm scared I won't finish something on time

[Anonymous No.4293214]

I DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT YOUR FUCKING COMPANY YOU FUCKS JUST GIVE ME THE FUCKING JOB I NEED MONEY TO SUPPORT MY FUCKING HOBBY/FUTURE PROFESSION YOU WEE CUNTS

[Anonymous No.4293547]

I hate uploading on sat/sun nights. It's always completely dead on Twitter (since both Americans are out doing shit and my JP audience is sleeping in)

[Anonymous No.4293707]

>Barely have enough time to work on one fully rendered drawing a week because of work/life/etc
>Won't get to draw if tired or stressed out
>Every week is a gamble

[Anonymous No.4293830]

I've gotten progressively worse and I don't know why

[Anonymous No.4293836]

>>4287531
Cold Turkey blocker

[Anonymous No.4293843]

>>4292816
>But I don't feel like I have the creativity, the eye for color, or the originality to come up with my own concepts
don't worry, most people dont. It's called mashing a shit ton of reference together

[Anonymous No.4293928]

Why can't I find drawing classes for complete beginners that aren't for children? I just want to take an art class guys fuck me

[Anonymous No.4293936]

i hate art and i hate being alive i hate the state of the world and i hate the state of myself maybe a blood vessel in my brain will leak tonight and free me from this life i never asked for. Haha

[Anonymous No.4293941]

>>4293936
read wholesome manga

[Anonymous No.4293958]

>>4293941
Different Anon here, I thoroughly enjoyed the konosuba anime, and I just read the first volume(?) Of "way of the househusband" I've read some things in the past online that I don't remember the name of. What would you recommend for manga?

[Anonymous No.4293967]

>>4293958
here are a few short ones
>Baby, kokoro no mama ni!
>Hibiki - Shousetsuka ni Naru Houhou
>Jumyou wo Kaitotte Moratta. Ichinen ni Tsuki, Ichimanen de.
Last one is dangerous so be careful.
Didn't know about househusband, sounds interesting.

[Anonymous No.4293980]

>>4283479
If there are big tits on the character, how is it underage?

[Anonymous No.4294053]

>create something
>hey, this looks pretty gud'
>next day
>this is infact trash

i-is this just the process of getting better and one day I'll reach my apex where this doesn't happen?

[Anonymous No.4294070]

>>4294053
Yes. If you want to make something fully finished, give a bit of time between each step so you can come back and see the mistakes and correct them before you move too far ahead.

[Anonymous No.4294090]

>>4280397
Six years ago I listened to the people who told me I should quit, and I really regret it. I started drawing again a year ago. I'm happy that I've been able to make progress, but I could have made so much more in that time.

If you're here, it's because you're supposed to be here. Don't quit.

[Anonymous No.4294092]

>>4280764
Drawing from imagination is fucking hard. Even some professionals never really get it down. Ethan Becker says right up front for example that he can only draw with tracing/reference and Proko is also trash at drawing from imagination (although I've heard that he's been practicing since the kangaroo fiasco).

Just keep copying shit to build up your memory/visual library and also regularly try to draw things from imagination. When your drawings from imagination look wrong, fix them until they look good. Lather rinse repeat.

[Anonymous No.4294128]

>>4294092
its time to stop perpetuating this myth. any medicore artist that practices it from time to time can draw from imagination. im not saying people are whipping out super realistic drawings out of their ass, but drawing a fully proportionate human body ? no problem. proko is the best example of how neglecting imaginative drawing will fuck you up. there are so many streams of people clearly drawing from imagination, even filmed events if you dont believe streams, and you people still deny this. picrel if im as beginner im able to sketch this wobbly body fully from imagination with no ref then an experienced artist clearly has a problem if they cannot easily do 100x better.
i mean just think about it logically, how tiresome and frustrating is it to be a pro artist working in the industry, getting commissions like "draw a female character seen from below with these monsters we designed around her" and depending 100% on refs?? you can never find refs that are 100% accurate, you have to apply some imaginative drawing sooner or later... i would rather draw the scene very loosely from head and use refs only for details
im not trying to hate on you btw i just dont want beginners like me to believe this shit because i also used to think like this and just got angry and stopped using reference all the time and boom, turns out you Can doodle something without a ref just fine so why are people saying its so hard and advanced all the time... i am also not implying ref is bad because this is what most people tend to jump to, i use refs as well, im saying not being able to draw -something- without a ref is a problem

[Anonymous No.4294171]

>>4293958
kokou no hito

[Anonymous No.4294208]

>>4289416
it matters because people will read a comic that has bad anatomy, but they won't hire anyone for good anatomy skills. you need finished work
t. probably better at anatomy than you anyway

[Anonymous No.4294237]

I'm tired of these motherfuckers posting shit that belongs in another thread. Yesterday we had like 7 of those shots clogging up the board. Which is annoying cuz I'm already done fealing with the crab ngmi posting about talent and seething over 12 year olds.

[Anonymous No.4294242]

>>4294237
which motherfuckers you mean in particular? the /pol/s discussing trans, the anon making "how to draw like this" thread, the anon writing passive aggressive essays and telling everyone they suck in every thread, the KJG bait, the talent bait, the 12 year old bait, the unlearning bait? my page is just a streak of hidden threads at this point

[Anonymous No.4294244]

>>4294128
I don't think we actually disagree with each other. I'm not saying thay drawing from imagination is a mysterious god-level skill that only a few geniuses have. But it is difficult and takes years to get down well, and there are also pros who admit they are shit at it so you shouldn't feel bad if you need some time to learn it. That's all.

[Anonymous No.4294259]

>>4294092
It's hard but what it comes down to is just familiarity. If you draw a corvette 10 times from reference you don't need reference pictures to draw it decently on the 11th time. It'd probably still be better if you did use ref but it could be pretty good if you have learned how to draw it. I don't draw real cars. I just make up cars. I have an intuition for it. I have a feeling that tells me when the proportions are right. I don't measure things. I don't really need to construct. But if you ask me to draw a giraffe, I've never done that. I could make something that looks like a realistic mammal worth a long neck but it's just not gonna be quite right because I don't know giraffes like that. If I do it once or twice from ref though, I'll probably be able to do it from imagination after that with a few mistakes. If I really want to be the guy who can draw goku extremely well then that's what I'm gonna be drawing with ref all the time. Dozens or hundreds of times until I know how to Draw it from every angle and I don't need a ref at all. And that's how it works. I can draw a girl because I've drawn lots of them but can I draw a specific person without a ref? I can draw myself but pretty much anyone else I would need a photo.

[Anonymous No.4294612]

I just keep getting angry and punching my chair. I draw a few lines, then I fuck up, and I throw a tantrum.
I've been trying to do something for an hour now but my head has just decided to stop working. I don't think I can do this, I'm not having fun, I'm not creating anything, and I still haven't learned anything after several months of this.

I envy you guys that can keep going, but I don't think I can anymore. I'm inevitably going to end up breaking something again like I tend to do.
I'll just give up like with all other difficult things I encounter in my life, just give up and go somewhere else, usually back to my comfort zone. I wasn't meant to accomplish anything in life.

[Anonymous No.4294661]

even though I know it shouldn’t matter I get pissed whenever everyone assumes pencil drawing = /beg/ no matter what. I’ve even seen other people on this board post graphite drawings that are great but they get shit on and called beg just because it’s not digital. digital drawings will always get more positive attention no matter what, even if they’re actually bad.

[Anonymous No.4294669]

>>4294208
pyw then faggot

[Anonymous No.4294680]

>>4280319
Where is a good place to post all kinds of my NSFW art as well as clean stuff, at various stages of WIP and finished work?

[Anonymous No.4294694]

>>4294661
are u sure this is the case? maybe you have low quality photos/scans, make sure its black and white not gray, the contrast is good, you can use tiny bit of blur to make it look not so sharp.

>>4294612
uh do you have some anger control problems? i dont think you're just doomed to break stuff or whatever, its just a problem with your patience, it could be fixed. maybe you're overstimulated, maybe take a break from internet, try to spend some time in silence so you can improve your attention span?
dont force yourself to draw if its not fun, take a break dude, its ok.
if you dont see any progress maybe try to write down what you actualy have problems with, and find a course about that particular subject. i think if you feel like youre stuck then you wont proceed until you address the problem

[Anonymous No.4294848]

>>4294694
>uh do you have some anger control problems
Clearly I do, I don't really know why though, it's only very certain things that make me this angry, and I can count them on one hand.
There are days where I can keep going for what feels like forever, but more often than not I end up incredibly frustrated at my own inability. I don't know what it is, but some days my hands seem to not want to work, and my brain decides it has forgotten everything.

I'm afraid of taking a break due to the risk of that break turning permanent, so I draw every day in the hopes that I can keep it going until I become good. But I'm not making any progress and I'm pretty much back where I started.

[Anonymous No.4295060]

It's been a week since I finished anything. I downloaded Fallout nv and playing 10 hours daily

[Anonymous No.4295136]

>>4280319
>drew/wrote/other pencil bullshit with wrist for nearly 15 years
>using my shoulder and elbow to draw feels like such a mental strain that I'm concerned I might be retarded

[Anonymous No.4295210]

>join art group
>like drawing anthro characters
>don't ever lewd them
>always ignored
>once a day the group does its 'ugh furries amirite lmao' session while simultaneously posting literal shota/loli art that gets tons of attention and likes within the group
it's a certain kind of feel

[Anonymous No.4295219]

>>4295210
join a furry group

[Anonymous No.4295291]

>>4295219
I draw non furries sometimes which I why I joined. I think it's just a popularity thing... someone who usually shits on it drew one and got a lot of positive feedback. Maybe joining a discord with an already established group was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.4295344]

>>4295291
post non furry there and furry in furry group

[Anonymous No.4295353]

>>4280385
>>4286712
this but also study cloud shapes beyond the basic and tired Culumus

[Anonymous No.4296551]

>>4280319
I just got an employment rejection email.

It's for a AAA game studio in the UK working on a fucking huge game. I had two skype interviews, then a month ago they flew me over there to meet the team, learn about the game, check out the town etc. I had a great time and was so exited because the art style and content of the game is practically tailor made for my art style and interests. The reason for the rejection is:

"We really liked ______'s work and the test he did for us. Ultimately it was a question of how he came across during the day. We felt he didn't seem particularly passionate about the project and came off a little unprofessional during a few moments describing previous colleagues or work places."

I think I said I didn't like my first art job that I had a few years ago it was soul sucking, and I made a jab at my art director from my art job from last year. I didn't mean it as criticism, I guess it didn't come off as a joke.


This was a once in a life time opportunity and I fucked it up. Like for years I've been dreaming of moving to europe to work at a game studio/concept art studio, and these guys just popped out of nowhere, they contacted ME.

and I fucked it up. that was my chance to get a fresh start, go somewhere new and have a creatively fulfilling job. I honestly want to kill myself.

[Anonymous No.4297171]

NO NEW VENT OR STUPID QUESTION THREADS YET?!!!

[Anonymous No.4297377]

>>4297171
Here you go >>4297376