/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4259878]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

previous >>4257385

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

[Anonymous No.4259879]

I AM A /BEG/INNER IN ART

[Anonymous No.4259888]

Advice, other than kill myself or read the sticky?

[Anonymous No.4259916]

The cartoon

[Anonymous No.4259921]

>>4259916


>>4255503

[Anonymous No.4259923]

>>4259888
What are your goals?

[Anonymous No.4259924]

The most realistic I plan to paint is semi realism anime but should I take the realism pill and start painting human portraits? And for how long? I want to draw robots being piloted by humans, not stick with painting celebrities and random girls

[Anonymous No.4259931]

>>4259924
Perspective --> Form --> Whatever the fuck you want to do. (i.e. Anatomy or Portrait Drawing or Vehicle Design).

That's what I'm noticing anyway. All the other fundamentals, like Composition, are really only useful when you start to actually get good at drawing.

[Anonymous No.4259938]

>>4259923
>Get gud with gesture
>Find my mannequin
>Just improve in general
T. >>4259847

[Anonymous No.4259943]

I read the sticky but the information comparing models for tablets was from 2012-2016 unless I overlooked something. Anyone have something more recent that gives good info/comparisons?

[Anonymous No.4259944]

>>4259943
>Not using printer paper
NGMI

[Anonymous No.4259948]

>>4259916

[Anonymous No.4259965]

>>4259916
she looks like my sister

im gonna need more tissues for this one

[Anonymous No.4259969]

My first attempt at painting. Much better than expected.

Trouble I had:

So-called "acrylic paper" warped under the paint. I think I will try heavier watercolor paper.

Picking up paint with my brush, I struggled to put it back down on the palette. I end up with a paintbrush overloaded with paint. Would better brushes fix this? Paint too thick? Bad technique? I did buy the cheap Winsor Newton acrylics and paintbrushes.

General advice and critique welcome. And I will buy some masking tape tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.4260011]

I need guidance on where I should improve on

[Anonymous No.4260037]

more asuka doodles before sleep

[Anonymous No.4260040]

>>4259916
blog/ig?

[Anonymous No.4260047]

>>4260037
those are some serious chicken legs senpai

[Anonymous No.4260054]

>>4260040
Is my profile from porn draws

https://www.hentai-foundry.com/user/Shobak/profile

[Anonymous No.4260058]

>>4259888

Study proportion, perspective and gesture. Those are very simple things, but they will benefit your drawings like nothing else will. You're already thinking in 3D, so you're on a good path.

I recommend that you read "Sketching: The Basics" + "Force" by Michael D. Matessi. Good luck anon.

>>4259969

Acrylic is a bitch. It dries very fast. When in doubt, add more water. You don't have to let it dry for too long. That will maybe solve your brush problem.

And for god's sake, put masking tape on your margins.

It's a nice painting. Learn to mix colors the cool way (darken the browns with purple, use only primary colors, etc.).

Watch James Gurney's YouTube Channel. He uses Gouache, but it's not wildly different from using acrylic.

>>4260011

On first sight, the neck construction seems a bit wrong. Her right shoulder seems shorter than the left one.Also the right hand seems smaller than the left one.

The head does not attach to the neck at that place, and seems flat on the top.

Oh, and the ear seems a bit higher than where it should be.

It's a nice drawing, overall. The face seems nice. If you're using reference, check it again.

[Anonymous No.4260077]

I did a 30 minute ‘attempt’ at a face. I just wanted some advice on if I should focus more on proportions and face sketching or on actual painting and rendering

[Anonymous No.4260080]

>>4260077

[Anonymous No.4260083]

>>4260077
proportions and accuracy

[Anonymous No.4260084]

Tried my hand at copying some pr0nz by eye. I think it turned out pretty okay. Took all day, though.

[Anonymous No.4260086]

>>4260083
Ty. I don’t want years to pass and my art still being polishing something fundamentally awful

[Anonymous No.4260089]

>>4260058
Which is better to start with? James Gurney’s color book or alla prima?

[Anonymous No.4260101]

>>4260077
Definitely proportions. You gotta get the eyes to line up before the rendering makes any difference.

[Anonymous No.4260103]

please rate my feel chad

[Anonymous No.4260105]

>>4260077

focus on drawing. think about the perspective and form in space. learn head construction. study human skull and each features of the face individually. if you cant draw forms you will never paint forms.

[Anonymous No.4260112]

>>4260047
you've never seen the characters from evangelion before?

[Anonymous No.4260121]

>>4260103
the shading looks greet, lots of deph

[Anonymous No.4260124]

Practicing. Other than the fucked up ellipses and lines, am I retarded?

[Anonymous No.4260147]

>>4260103
fix right side of face

[Anonymous No.4260150]

>>4260011

the underboob is visible so we are looking up at her but her face is from an eye level perspective????

[Anonymous No.4260156]

>>4260121
thank you
>>4260147
Do you mean the the cheek bone protruding on his right side or the shading on the lower jaw on our right?

[Anonymous No.4260240]

>>4260011
Thank you. I am pretty recent to drawing with a tablet. I never did any reference at all. I should not rely on memory alone now.
>>4260150
Thank you. I entirely forgot using a tablet is different from drawing on paper. Might want to look up perspective again.

[Anonymous No.4260247]

>>4260124
you’ll get there soon enough, keep trying

[Anonymous No.4260262]

>>4260105
Should I not try to work with light/ greyscale and focus only on drawing or should I work on both at the same time?

[Anonymous No.4260328]

Just getting into the holiday spirit.

Finally figured out I didn't need to use my old tablet I lost the pen to when I have a shitty Ipad and an adobe subscription.

[Anonymous No.4260361]

>>4259943
bumping this question

[Anonymous No.4260382]

This is an my practice making characters

[Anonymous No.4260391]

>>4260382
Nice

[Anonymous No.4260392]

>>4260382
Draw more of left.

[Anonymous No.4260400]

>>4260328

[Anonymous No.4260407]

More practice characters cartoon

[Anonymous No.4260430]

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/basic-planes-of-the-head-andrew-loomis-a4b1f1ea5a1b49718dc6f03f606d5d76

Is it ok to use 3d models to study the head?

[Anonymous No.4260434]

A bunch of wamen torso studies.
Why are tits so difficult to get right?
And how do I learn how to draw? Everything looks so bad and it's already been 5 months since I've started and I still suck, why is learning how to draw so fucking hard and obnoxious????

[Anonymous No.4260488]

quick sketch of a character I'm working on
the pose is awkward as shit but hopefully she cute

[Anonymous No.4260493]

>tfw showed this to my grandma
>tfw when she said it looked nice
How is it /beg/ Its still a work in progress with the no shading/contrast and stuff but, how is it so far

[GestureGuy No.4260509]

Warm up from reference

[Anonymous No.4260517]

hey I was experimenting with some soft edges and I wanted to see what peeps think of the implementation

[Anonymous No.4260550]

Looking for feedback, she is meant to be muscular and yes I used refs. Everything can be changed at this point still.

[Anonymous No.4260561]

>>4260550
The legs are horribly long

[Anonymous No.4260567]

>>4260561
I thought that too..but upper and lower legs are meant to be 2 heads each..ill adjust and post an update tho to see if its better

[Anonymous No.4260571]

>>4260567
there...I think the legs look better now.

[Anonymous No.4260580]

>>4260550
Huge feet, tiny arms, no ass (right gluteal muscles literally missing).
Chains are curving against gravity.
There's no sense of depth. I can't really define why that is, but she looks like a paper doll. So much so that the chains being attacked behind her keeps throwing my brain for a loop, because I keep expecting them to line up with her feet.

[Anonymous No.4260581]

>>4260571
If it looks weird, it is weird

Either the body is to be larger, or you're still too long (feets are off)

Look at a normal human, then look at your drawing

[Anonymous No.4260587]

It really should be understood that people should work by phase, progressively.

Work with focus and a goal: either on forms/anatomy, or gesture, or perspective, or values. Don't do it all at once if you are just starting out, because you'll get bashed and then come cry how mean ppl are in here.

Work smart.

[Anonymous No.4260588]

>>4260580
its the chains that are making her look flat. that can be fixed easily.
The feet tho...I get the sense that if I shrink them they'll look too small.but we'll see.
the arms yes...I'll make them bigger

[Anonymous No.4260590]

>>4260493
Trainer's body is stiff bad anatomy. Bad face. It's like looking at an action figure with a molded outfit.

[Anonymous No.4260599]

>>4260571
update..
made the arms bigger and shrunk/reworked the feet, moved the 'chains' further apart and to the sides of her (will flesh them out later), added the bony bits on the sides of the hips.

[Anonymous No.4260604]

>>4260599
edit...wait a sec...move the arms in a bit.....

[Anonymous No.4260606]

>>4260604
Thats better

[Anonymous No.4260647]

>>4259888
Take a break from fundies my dude draw from imagination. Draw at least 1 drawing from imagination per day for 2 weeks. Copy some art you like in the mean time too. After 2 weeks go back to studying the fundies and stuff. You should not be drawing and studying loomis heads for a month. At most you should take 2 days to study that stuff it's not rocket science.

I see a lot of begs do this and it's really not healthy for them in the long run. "Study Loomis, Go practice fundies for 4 months. Read this book watch this video. etc. etc." Doing those things rigorously non-stop when you are a beg actually hurts you more than help. In the end all your drawings are gonna look like studies and it's gonna make yourself feel even worse than before. Relax take it slow and steady.

[Anonymous No.4260668]

Cube interactions. A Dwarf lady trying to lift the cube but its too heavy

[Anonymous No.4260676]

Took a friend's sketch and colored it in.
I could have added more detail but it's just regular paper and wouldn't survive much more.

This is my first time coloring something, how did I do? My friend thought it was 'not bad'.

[Anonymous No.4260681]

>>4260676
It's horrible there's no value at all

Ever heard of light and shadow?

[Anonymous No.4260716]

Why didn't you link in the old thread?

[Anonymous No.4260725]

>>4260668
lol i like this expression

do a more interesting viewpoint, that's barely a cube and more like a literal square

[Anonymous No.4260743]

>>4260668
>how could you give your own sister the spicy cube dominic

[Anonymous No.4260745]

I have woken up and doodled Asuka again
please say anything

[Anonymous No.4260746]

>>4260745
anything

[Anonymous No.4260750]

>>4259965
I wanna fuck your sister

[Anonymous No.4260751]

>>4260745
That barely looks like Asuka. Sure, she has kind of a generic anime face, but it's a slightly different generic anime face. Sharper nose and chin.

[Anonymous No.4260752]

>>4260751
well im not aiming to recreate the original style cause i am too low skilled
just essentially drawing a girl and giving her some character's key attributes
like most fanart does

[Anonymous No.4260760]

New to this

[Anonymous No.4260761]

>>4260745
If you had said sailor moon I could see it. Asuka? nah don't see it at all.

[Anonymous No.4260768]

>>4260676
Kinda what >>4260681 said but to a lesser extent. I see an attempt to use value, but you could’ve done better in that field. The glowing eye is pretty cool desu

[Anonymous No.4260788]

can somebody give me some pointers with figure drawing, i tried putting in gesture.

[Anonymous No.4260796]

>>4260745
pretty good construction Anon

[Anonymous No.4260851]

[Anonymous No.4260864]

>>4259878

[Anonymous No.4260880]

>>4260851
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.4260890]

Hello everyone.
I'm having trouble copying the references.
I'm breaking the proportions.
People in my conferences think that tracing has a bad impact on drawing training.
I usually create 9999over layers before the proportions are similar to the original.
How can I learn to copy perfectly?

[Anonymous No.4260917]

>>4260864
That's probably enough for this sketch. Seriously felt very inspired by that proko kjg video.

[Anonymous No.4260947]

>>4260890
post ref

[Anonymous No.4260950]

>>4260668
>Insists on skipping perspective studies.

You just can’t help this guy.

[Anonymous No.4260959]

>>4260011
I expanded more on the idea and took the advice.
I should've used a reference on wings instead of winging it though.

[Anonymous No.4260993]

>>4260947
I'm assuming the one with lower opacity is ref/traced, and the wonky one is hand-drawn/copied

[Anonymous No.4260995]

>>4260993
is way too bad to be the ref

[Anonymous No.4261021]

>>4260745
I think you're style has the eyes too sunken in to the skull to call it anime. They look more like cherubs or something.

[Anonymous No.4261035]

It's easy to come up with a pose, but how do you come up with a GOOD pose? My visualization skills are so bad I may have aphantasia and it wouldn't matter.

[Anonymous No.4261040]

>>4261021
Well tahts intentional i dont wanna draw anime

[Anonymous No.4261045]

>>4261035
Your drawings are good and tell me you don't have aphantasia faggot. Now just keep drawing and tell me what you think is a good pose. It's as simple as that.

[Anonymous No.4261055]

>>4261045
I can recognize a good pose when I see one and can more or less tell what elements are common in them, but coming up with them is just another thing. Now that I think of it, maybe it's just a problem of lacking my visual library. If that's the case I shouldn't worry too much about it yet.

[Anonymous No.4261159]

>>4260262
I think you should work in grey scale. Map out the shapes, map out the shadows, add tone. At each step, check to see if it's correct before moving on. Mapping out the shadows is the hardest step, so you might as well add the tone afterwards.

[Anonymous No.4261183]

>>4260077

>>4260262
also learn to measure
you're measurements are completely off
compare everything with everything else

[Anonymous No.4261198]

>>4260077
>>4260262
I quickly edited there reference to have three values - black white and a midtone. Make sure you can see these shapes and make sure the darks are dark and the lights are light. This is what suggests form. Otherwise your drawing will look flat. Make sure you can do this in monotone before moving on to color

[Anonymous No.4261208]

>>4259878
I feel like my brain just started working for the first time right now.

[Anonymous No.4261218]

>>4261198
Also going to add this to your advice, the other part of suggesting form is drawing along with them instead of flattening them out

[Anonymous No.4261233]

>>4260590
Ty anon I should really start practicing anatomy rather then just eyeing things

[Anonymous No.4261240]

I like that an overhand grip forces me to use my arm and shoulder more but I can't use it when I draw digitally on my tablet. Is it worth spending the time learning to draw like that or should I just try and use my shoulder and arm more when drawing regularly?

[Anonymous No.4261268]

>>4261218
which book is that?

[Anonymous No.4261286]

study

[Anonymous No.4261294]

>>4259943
Bumping this question

[Anonymous No.4261303]

>>4261159
>>4261183
>>4261198
Thanks a lot dude :)

[Anonymous No.4261306]

>>4260959
are you seriously /beg/?

[Anonymous No.4261318]

how would i improve my gesture

[Anonymous No.4261319]

>>4260430
this one is really basic even for /beg/, you should be able to recreate something like this even without reference
if you want to study planes of the head then the Asaro head would be the most popular choice
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/asaro-head-9d26548182f8465a8e97371a9170561e

[Anonymous No.4261381]

I'm trying to figure out gesture drawing.
5, 6 and 7 are untimed, the rest are 1-minute drawings.
Am I on the right path here?
Any issues with my drawings I should be aware of (other than my timed ones being unfinished)?

[Anonymous No.4261428]

>gesture

[Anonymous No.4261491]

Another gesture from imagination i fele the perspective is kinda off with the giant it's like he is falling. and with the small guy kinda stiff pose.

[Anonymous No.4261492]

How can I make my gestures less shitty? They were all 1 minute gestures.

[Anonymous No.4261498]

>>4261055
>identify good pose
>identify what makes that pose good
>copy pose
Rinse and repeat. You're right, you're just lacking the visual library. Draw more poses and eventually they will cone somewhat naturally

[Anonymous No.4261544]

>>4261318
>>4261492
Just keep doing them.
Gesture isn't something you can learn just from theory, you have to put in the work for it.
After your first 2000 gestures, something might start clicking.

[Anonymous No.4261548]

another asuka doodle please i beg you someone redline

[Anonymous No.4261552]

>>4261548
Oof those long titties and ribcage...

[Anonymous No.4261553]

>>4261548
lol

[Anonymous No.4261558]

>>4261544
Yeah I've been figure drawing 20-40 mins. almost every day since October. It definitely has gotten better but I just wanted to know if there were any specific pointers I could get.

[Anonymous No.4261562]

>>4261552
>>4261553
i apologize please help me ahh

[Anonymous No.4261564]

>>4261558
>I just wanted to know if there were any specific pointers I could get.
If anything you should focus less on the contours.

[Anonymous No.4261581]

>>4261564
which post are you referring to anon

[Anonymous No.4261584]

>>4261581
mostly >>4261492
But it applies to both I guess.
For >>4261318 I would also advice to not go over your lines multiple times

[Anonymous No.4261588]

>>4260950
Anything particularly wrong with the perspective in that pic?

[GestureGuy No.4261589]

Where can i find more dynamic gesture resources ? I got kinda bored from same recycled poses from different models.

[Anonymous No.4261619]

>>4260890
Here’s what you do. Unironically draw upside down. Your perception of placing shit where you think they should be placed will be totally fucked if you draw upside down (GOOD THING). It means you can’t really do symbol drawing.

[GestureGuy No.4261623]

More gestures.

[Anonymous No.4261634]

So I've been practicing hands gestures. Have I made a revelation in thinking of the gesture line and curves as either the x y or z axis being morphed, to change the vanishing points as the object twists.

[Anonymous No.4261656]

So I've been practicing hands gestures. Have I made a revelation in thinking of the gesture line and curves as either the x y or z axis being morphed, to change the vanishing points as the object twists.

>If this is a duplicated I almost forgot that Americans have to deal with data caps, so here is a lower res version

[GestureGuy No.4261658]

>>4261623

[Anonymous No.4261671]

>>4261588
diff anon but from that angle based on the perspective of the girl, the cube would look nothing like that

look at them at the same time, you'll see what i mean (might help to look at her arms, where she's grabbing)

[Anonymous No.4261689]

What do I do after I have mastered drawing straight lines and 1 pt/2pt perspective boxes

[Anonymous No.4261696]

>>4261689
3 point perspective and intuitive pespective.

[Anonymous No.4261767]

sketch

[Anonymous No.4261769]

>>4261767
another

[Anonymous No.4261776]

ok motion on the left?

[Anonymous No.4261784]

why is loomis shilled so hard here
isn't his exercises mostly still symbol drawing and not "from life"?

[Anonymous No.4261805]

>>4261776
yes looks decent

[Anonymous No.4261812]

The girls cartoons

[Anonymous No.4261854]

>>4261776
broken spine on the kick girl

[Anonymous No.4261922]

my practices

[Anonymous No.4261931]

>>4261812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOUKX89R_ZE

[Anonymous No.4261954]

>>4261035
Emotion, movement, story, and balance are all important to me in a pose.

[Anonymous No.4261967]

>>4261318
Straight lines, look how Bridgman teaches it.

[Anonymous No.4261970]

>>4261491
Use straight lines more, determine the angle of the feet and where the head is first, Steve Huston's approach to gesture is stupid to me. I'm telling you dude, if you use straight lines to draw from the top to the weighted leg you will consistently make rhythmic balanced figures, even if everything else you do is shit, this will hold up your drawing

[Anonymous No.4261973]

>>4261769
advise me

[Anonymous No.4261978]

>>4261973
I think you should work on design more, your drawings have nice foundation, but they're lacking appealing design.

[Anonymous No.4261985]

>>4261978
>nice foundation
Excuse me but what? Are we looking at the same picture? Did you misquote by mistake?

[Anonymous No.4262004]

>>4261985
Solid form, balanced figure, poses that say something, clear idea of planes. What do you expect, /alt/ tier drawings here? There obviously needs to be work done, but I'm almost certain that this person will be able to figure out those mistakes themselves. The drawings are extremely ugly though, which is what I said needed work on the most. This person loves to draw, and you can clearly feel that.

[Anonymous No.4262008]

>>4261978
>they're lacking appealing design.
Not OP but I don't understand, what is generally considered appealing?

[Anonymous No.4262010]

>>4262008
I used the word appealing in place of "ugly", but I think it gets the point across better. They're both subjective, and I'm sure this person could get through in a professional field drawing like that, I just said how I felt about the drawings. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder

[Anonymous No.4262011]

>>4262008
little girls apparently. every time one of these faggots on this board use the word appealing they’re just referring to how hard it gets their noncey little weenies. also you have the opposite problem of what he said, work on your fundamentals more and don’t stress over style.

[Anonymous No.4262013]

>>4262011
Implying you can't advance your technical prowess (as you naturally do throughout your life anyways) along with making things not ugly.

[Anonymous No.4262014]

>>4262004
Except the forms aren't solid, they're working off of shapes instead. Look at the face, it's flat. There's no semblance of facial planes, much less any other real forms. The pose is too stiff, anatomy is egregious, perspective is wrong. But yeah I mean sure maybe they love to draw, I guess?

I don't expect God tier work I just don't understand how you can possibly say they have solid foundation. The work looks ugly BECAUSE they are missing a solid foundation in fundamentals.

I mean you can have your opinions but if you can't understand what good vs bad fundamentals looks like I don't think you should be telling people they've got good foundations.

[Anonymous No.4262018]

>>4261671

please redline. I might just understand a little bit about perspective if you redline it.

[Anonymous No.4262019]

>>4262013
Big oof. /Beg/-tier Dunning-Kruger confirmed. You give bad advice, you don't know shit from shinola. Please leave and don't give advice until you git gud.

If you'd like to prove me wrong here you can always redline that drawing and show us how it's done. Enlighten us, Grand Master senpai

[Anonymous No.4262020]

>>4262013
when did I imply that retard?

[Anonymous No.4262024]

>>4262014
There's a clear indication of the brow ridge, clear indication of the side plane. There are indications of different planes everywhere else too, I agree the indication of the Left knee is contradictory, right knee is bad, and the lower legs are for a midget. The pose is far from stiff, she's sitting upright indicated by her shoulders going up, and chest sticking out. Fundamentals don't mean it looks good or bad, they're tools that help a serious artist attain what they see easier.

[Anonymous No.4262026]

>>4262020
Redline or leave

[Anonymous No.4262030]

>>4262018
Diff anon here. I just like redlining stuff for fun.

If we're looking down at her shoulder girdle, being able to see her traps and her collar bone, and the top of her breasts, why are we also seeing the cube from the bottom?

Study Perspective! At least study basic drawing!

[Anonymous No.4262032]

>>4262026
only if you can show me a drawing you’ve done that you haven’t jerked off to

[Anonymous No.4262035]

>>4262032
NGMI niglet confirmed. Too scared to redline, I didn't even tell you to post your work.

[Anonymous No.4262043]

>>4262035
it’s okay anon, you can post your copy of a copy of a little anime cat girl, we won’t judge you here.

[Anonymous No.4262045]

>>4262035
>>4262032
Look it's alright, the person who posted those drawings got advice from different sides, everything is fine. We all don't know a lot, but we all know a little something.

[Anonymous No.4262065]

The More practice

[Anonymous No.4262073]

How bad did I fuck up? What should I work on the most to improve?

[Anonymous No.4262099]

>>4262073
Perspective!!! the breast and hips they point the other way distinct of the reference, the perspective Is fundamental for pose figures

[Anonymous No.4262107]

>>4262099
thank you

[Anonymous No.4262109]

More girls Cartoon on my practices

[Anonymous No.4262118]

fucking around with shadows. i am going to try shading an object that isn't stupid.

[Anonymous No.4262120]

OG or edit lads? also inb4 "furshit is banned" non naked furshit is fine.

I prefer the edit the eyes aren't as expressive but it looks less uncanny.

[Anonymous No.4262123]

>>4262120
OG

Muzzle seems a bit too long and the eyes a bit too big.

[Anonymous No.4262127]

>>4262107
Example, download the Loomis ebook

[Anonymous No.4262141]

>>4262127
Is this "Figure Drawing for All It's Worth"?

[Anonymous No.4262145]

>>4262123
>>4262120
furries are basically a sphere with a box attached to it
exact shape and size of the box will vary depending on what animal you're drawing.

[Anonymous No.4262149]

>>4262145
Yeah I have a bad habit of rubbing out my construction lines but I did draw at least from some reference of foxes. as well as the bad habit of drawing my muzzles to long, but at least I've come to realize that.

[Anonymous No.4262162]

>>4262141
Is Andrew Loomis Successful Drawing, but the andrew loomis figure drawing for all it's worth It also serves and explains this point.

[Anonymous No.4262165]

>>4262162
thanks again, friend

[Anonymous No.4262167]

>>4262149
Put a piece of tracing paper down under your hand, masking taped to the paper or surface you're drawing on. Then your oils and sweat won't smudge the pencils while you're inking.

Or you can use a lightbox (you can make these at home if you're a poorfag) to put a new paper on top and do line work on that.

[Anonymous No.4262171]

>>4262149
i would say practice just drawing faces at different angles. the way you draw the right eye doesn't look right. like it needs to be more hidden around her face.

i dunno i'm also /beg/

[Anonymous No.4262172]

>>4262167
N-no I'm sorry I meant with an eraser it's another habit I need to break, but thanks for the advice though.

[Anonymous No.4262178]

>>4262165
if you can try to get all of Andrew Loomis's books they are everywhere free in pdf, regards

[Anonymous No.4262181]

>>4262172
Oh lmao then yeah don't take those away until you've checked that the lines you're re-stating and thickening up, as well as perspective and anatomy are correct.

[Anonymous No.4262190]

>>4262171
It was in the OG but I was lazy in resizing it so her bridge from her eye looks like part of her eye. Still all good advice I appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.4262196]

Did a second attempt at >>4258672
But with a different set of paints in one of my other sketchbooks.
I think it turned out a lot better, but I still have a lot to improve.
I've been looking for recs on solid watercolor sketchbooks and found out about a company called Kadhi papers so I'm ordering one of those soon.

[Anonymous No.4262198]

>>4262196
It does look better. I think your paper is throwing me off, it's like it's overloaded with water and getting wavy as fuck. Try cold-press or at least very thick watercolor paper, just know you still need to watch out for how heavily you're saturating your paper with water.

[Anonymous No.4262216]

I get about this far into planning and then I give up. I didn't really have a direction I wanted to go.
I didn't even have a character in mind.

[Anonymous No.4262218]

>>4261973
Better/worse?


>>4262004
>>4262011
>>4262014
Thanks for responding

[Anonymous No.4262222]

>>4262120
>>4262123
same wolfface syndrome as half year ago

[Anonymous No.4262223]

>>4262030

so it should be close to eye level? a... am I right?

[Anonymous No.4262244]

>>4262222
Really? hm, no one else has pointed it out have you had your vision checked recently?

[Anonymous No.4262246]

What should I be working on to draw good looking figures? Ignore the triangle shape on the left, I haven't gotten used to sketching with a pen yet.

[Anonymous No.4262252]

>>4262222
I don't know why the fuck I bother to post in these things wolfface.jpg isn't going to help me fucking improve. It's called critique not meme it up, honestly the people here are worse than trash as in the board /trash/ most of you are ok I guess except the memers.

[Anonymous No.4262255]

>>4260959
I have no idea. I recently got the balls to share my stuff. I'm a lurker on /beg/. Am I eligible to get out of /beg/ now?
Also, I polished it.

[Anonymous No.4262260]

>>4262252
It is /beg/. You do understand that the people that know what they're doing only drop by this thread occasionally, right? You're just left with other /beg/fags and they're gonna act like stupid shits sometimes. Ignore them.

[Anonymous No.4262268]

>>4262260
It just puzzles me so much that someone thinks "ah yes surely this person has been doing nothing but drawing for the past 6 months and not improved a single bit" I haven't had time to draw because of personal reasons but I still try to keep myself motivated it may look like shit but I'm still pushing through.

[GestureGuy No.4262276]

>>4261970
Thanks anon, could you please explain it more by drawing over it if you don't mind.

[Anonymous No.4262282]

>>4262030
I'm /beg/ so I could be wrong but are you saying it isn't possible at all for that box to be at that angle just because you can see her traps/collar bone? Because in my head it feels like it's possible. Even in your redline it looks plausible.

[Anonymous No.4262284]

>>4262120
>>4262123
Don't know how much this is gonna help you but here goes
1. Draw a good looking, if not perfect, circle. Your head looks kinda wobbly
2. Draw a line on the sphere roughly from top to the middle, this will decide your head's direction
3. Imagine and draw a circle that covers the bottom part of the sphere from the end of line drawn from 2
4. Construct a box (muzzle) starting from the circle

Also, nose and eyes look good roughly at the same size. Seriously draw more, you have attempted too few

[Anonymous No.4262361]

>>4262255
>Am I eligible to get out of /beg/ now?
Never, noone is ever, ever.

But seriously I think your picture is great

[Anonymous No.4262381]

>>4262361
Thanks man. Made my day.

[Anonymous No.4262439]

>>4262255

you're between mid to advance /beg/.

not yet.

[Anonymous No.4262539]

[Anonymous No.4262561]

The Dwarf lady managed to lift the cube but is still struggling. Hope this counts as an "interesting viewpoint" that shows off the cube.

[Anonymous No.4262567]

>>4259878
thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4262571]

>>4262561
The more you change the angle of your drawings the more apparent your lack of perspective knowledge becomes.
Go to the books thread and pick up "perspective made easy".
Once you've gone through that book and you understand it, you can pick up "how to draw" by scott robertson if you want to get really full blown autism levels of perspective knowledge.

[Anonymous No.4262575]

>>4262539
why are you posting here? ego stroking?

[Anonymous No.4262576]

>>4262575
Goodjob stroking his ego, retard.

[Anonymous No.4262580]

>>4262561
Based lady. Keep going, man.

[Anonymous No.4262582]

>>4262576
suck my cock nigger

[Anonymous No.4262600]

>>4262571
What did I do wrong here?

>>4262580
tyty i will try

[Anonymous No.4262601]

I tried correcting myself

[Anonymous No.4262615]

>>4262601
Honestly Asukaposter I think you are doing fine

[Anonymous No.4262621]

>>4262561
1. it's not a cube
2. as far as I can tell, none of the paralels seem to converge.
3. looking up at the box would make this a 3-point perspective, which you didn't do since all the verticals except for one (which i assume was a mistake) are completely vertical.

[Anonymous No.4262623]

>>4262621
meant for
>>4262600
>What did I do wrong here?

[Anonymous No.4262632]

>>4262621
k. I saw this thread >>4259396 and it linked to a lecture on perspective. I'm gonna go through that and hope I get better.

I still wanna do these drawings though so forgive if my perspective is still bad.

[Anonymous No.4262634]

>>4262632
>I still wanna do these drawings though so forgive if my perspective is still bad.
No one is telling you to not do these drawings.
In fact, it's a good idea to push past your comfort zone and try out different things.
This is a critique board, so if you're going to post here you're going to get critiqued.
That doesn't mean people are telling you to stop doing something.

[Anonymous No.4262635]

>>4262561
I would change the position of the left arm. It's hard to read that the elbow is coming towards the viewer.

[Anonymous No.4262663]

>>4262575
In int I was told I belong to beg

[Anonymous No.4262668]

Life drawings of class mates

[Anonymous No.4262694]

[Anonymous No.4262762]

>>4262694

[Anonymous No.4262866]

[Anonymous No.4262870]

>>4262866
I'm sorry I will study more

[Anonymous No.4262872]

was gonna pen and ink but I think sketching another perspective is better use of time than doing 10000 windows

[Anonymous No.4262875]

Hi /beg/

[Anonymous No.4262905]

>>4261183
>that bottom left
Today I learned the head forms a swastika

[Anonymous No.4262910]

>>4262284
Thanks for the help broski.

[Anonymous No.4262914]

>>4262223
No, we should be looking down at the cube as well. Indicate a horizon line when making a drawing, it'll be good practice for you.

[Anonymous No.4262932]

>>4262905

[Anonymous No.4262956]

>>4262539
i want to make a 3d model of this

[Anonymous No.4263002]

>>4262668
lately nothing comes out of my brain, nothing is made from my hands. i have nothing rn.

[Anonymous No.4263007]

>>4263002
You have potential. Study your fundies and keep drawing

[Anonymous No.4263034]

Could someone help me. I tried everything from flipping canvas to redoing it a good amount of times but I can't seem to get the leg right on the rightmost character.
I know my perspective isn't the best but keep in mind it's a panel from a comic of my travel and that guy is self-insert (I'm 6'8") so that's why he's not that small either. (Perspective is still fucked

[Anonymous No.4263158]

>>4263034

[Anonymous No.4263203]

>>4262872
Darker lines anon, don't be anxious, it's just paper. Misplace a line and you won't even remember it in a week, let alone ten years, but if you hyperfocus on accuracy you'll be much less skillful in ten years than you'd be if you loosened up
>>4262668
Good practice, do that but more, also play with drawing boxes
>>4262762
see edit in pic related, gotta reign in them cheek boners bro
>>4263002
Draw some boxes, not even as a meme. Place them together in space on the paper such that they all make sense in terms of their perspective. Freehand all the lines and focus on keeping the golden perspective rule in mind more than on trying to get perfectly straight lines; angles are way more important than lack of squiggliness. Also the golden rule is that all the edges of a cube will appear to converge as they get farther away, and the bigger and/or closer a cube is to the viewpoint's 'eye' the more extreme the angles of convergence. Draw boxes both as a warmup and as simple doodling to keep your hands in practice. We're all gonna make it anon.

[Anonymous No.4263205]

does anything look especially wrong about this? I haven't played with monster anatomy before

[Anonymous No.4263207]

>>4263205
of course I forget the image

[Anonymous No.4263212]

>>4263034
consider going with a different pose perhaps?

[Anonymous No.4263213]

>>4263207
looks like she's gonna topple to the left, shoulder muscles aren't really inserting like they should, feet are a bit too dainty

[Anonymous No.4263219]

>>4263158
Thanks senpai. Also mirin' that 2 incher

[Anonymous No.4263223]

>>4263213
good points, I'll check out some references instead of just guessing

[Anonymous No.4263229]

>>4263212
That would be a good idea but usually I vizualise what I want and then try to make it so, even if I have to learn a whole new thing, I try to not take shortcuts as much as possible. My first panel was a panoramic perspective(?) (think fish-eye but not as intense) and even though it isn't my best result ever, it was my first time actually doing one.

[Anonymous No.4263237]

>>4263207
This anon coming back at ya >>4263213
Just a quick linejob, I tried to stay faithful to your design but to be honest I'd shrink the head, and probably lose the cuffs, if you really want the thing chained up I'd suggest a single ankle or neck ring

[Anonymous No.4263251]

>>4263237
that looks amazing, thanks so much for the redline
as for the chains, it's not actually my character, it was supposed to look like a female version of this dude
the way you drew her feet actually looks better than the source though

[Anonymous No.4263252]

[Anonymous No.4263259]

this is from a while ago and I hate it what can I do to improve, it just looks ugly. I'll post ref in a bit

>>4262601
I love you asukaposter, blog?

[Anonymous No.4263261]

>>4263259
ref

[Anonymous No.4263263]

>>4263259
thank i dont wanna post my blog now cause I wanna get better and make some better drawigns and then post in self-promo thread

[Anonymous No.4263264]

>>4263251
No problem anon

[Anonymous No.4263266]

>>4263259
I'd suggest putting it into greyscale and trying to paint that first, focusing on value and edge more than color. Try a few times if necessary, don't get caught up polishing something that you don't like on a fundamental level. One you can see through the color and notice the value underneath, then you can start trying to work in color. Biting off more than you can chew is going to frustrate you more than you're gonna learn.

[Anonymous No.4263288]

>>4263266
thanks Anon I did that with something I draw the other day and I did feel like I better with it so I guess I'llll keep doing it that way

[Anonymous No.4263310]

>>4263252
Just played around with this a little

[Anonymous No.4263359]

Random question, but what is the name of those pens which you can erase their marks by flickering a heat source at it?

[Anonymous No.4263431]

I'm looking for "Famous Artists Cartoon Course - Clothes and Folds" and in one of the pastebins it has a link to "Famous Artists Course" but the mega link is dead.

[Anonymous No.4263467]

>>4263359
This guy explains it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iR3L8mhEsAY

[Anonymous No.4263485]

[Anonymous No.4263554]

>>4263467
Ty. This was exactly the vid I watched

[Anonymous No.4263559]

>>4263485
epik goblino memes

[Anonymous No.4263560]

advice?
was drawing the phantom of the opera todd howard for fun and like the body so far

[Anonymous No.4263577]

Anyone know how to make objects look metallic instead of just plastic?

[Anonymous No.4263602]

My drawing girl anatomy anime and android, compared with the normal human.

[Anonymous No.4263701]

>>4263577
Look at a bit of metal next to a bit of plastic and tell me the difference. To make it a bit easier, it has to do with the amount of reflection. 'White' metals like steel don't really have any color, they are just bouncing the light that is falling all around them to begin with. Colored metals can be harder to produce than non-colored ones, so I'd suggest painting a few studies of colorless metal first before you try tackling green and yellow metal.

[Anonymous No.4263812]

>>4261696
okay what do I do next? spent 14 hours drawing and I have 3 point down now by first drawing cubes and boxes with a ruler and can now do them freehand

[Anonymous No.4263821]

>>4263812
Good, now relate what you know about drawing boxes to drawing objects that are not boxes. For example, draw a lamp inside of every box you've drawn so far, in the same perspective as the box.

[Anonymous No.4263843]

Is there a place where I can watch people put fundamentals into practice? Everything I do is a failure

[Anonymous No.4263863]

[Anonymous No.4263869]

I want to do digital but I don't have a tablet. Would it be better to stick to traditional until I get one or do digital with a mouse?

[Anonymous No.4263875]

>>4263869
stick to trad

[Anonymous No.4263885]

>>4263869
Stick to trad /2

[Anonymous No.4263887]

>>4263875
>>4263885
Alright, thank you both

[Anonymous No.4263920]

[Anonymous No.4263924]

>>4259888
>>4259888

1/2
First off >>4260647
Is right, you seem too stressed and serious for someone who is just getting started, drawing for fun is important to be able to keep going when you suck, have fun with it.

This mannequin looks to me like he is going to have a nervous breakdown for some reason lol.
Still, it's pretty obvious you need more time drawing daily, and continuing to study perspective, structure, proportion , and gesture. But I'd hope you are trying your best to do that already, just not with a physical teacher to help or a full deck of cards for yourself. Instead of leaving it at "do more fundies" as 90% of the critique is in beg threads, I'll give you a couple specific things to do with your box people.

Look at your forearms, by the angle of his shoulders, the forearm that should be closer to the viewer is significantly shorter, and even if the arms were swapped, it would be alot. So pay attention to proportion or at least sameness especially with limbs, no shame in measuring stuff out at this stage with a pencil or finger or whatever.
Shade the side of your boxes that is away from the light, just with a single layer of lines even, helps alot with readability.
Add joints to your limbs, even if you aren't ready for hands and feet, ankles are a box, wrists I do as ellipses, will help keep your forearms and lower legs in check length wise. And also, those legs you drew are just one face, a 2d plane. You must start drawing limbs as 3d forms as well, if your guy is turned slightly to the viewer, we will see the sides of his legs as well, and the way you've drawn then with 1 face you really cant sell the illusion of them bending or twisting. This is where perspective really helps, as it's harder to make the limbs even on a box person look right as a 3d form, but still you must try.

[Anonymous No.4263938]

>>4263924
2/2

Lastly I'd say dont be afraid to offset the boxes for the head, shoulders, and hips, this is key to making a figure that looks in motion, one that can bend and isnt so stiff. Whether its drawing a head or a whole body, our mind tends to panic and think that we are turning and offsetting things way more than we actually are. Like a good example is beginners all the time try to draw a head at a 3/4 and it ends up being this fucked up mix of straight on and a very slight turn. Try moving the hips more to the side of the leg that is holding more of his weight, and at the same time angle his shoulders so the front is lower than the back one, you will see what I mean, when you draw the boxes you will think its gonna be way off and then you connect things and it actually looks alive, less flat. Also I like drawing gestures, and then superimposing structure to make it work practically, and vice versa.

That's all i got good luck man.

[Anonymous No.4263971]

>>4263843
For real, post your work here asap, let me know it's you, I'll tell you where you need to start.

[Anonymous No.4263974]

>>4263887
All the skills you need to do digital effectively can be built using traditional art, and the limitations imposed by traditional art will make your digital art better (things like being forced to understand color theory, perspective, limited ability to chickenscratch and erase, etc)

[Anonymous No.4263982]

Is it just me or is this /beg thread pretty good. Im proud of you guys, during the summer this shit looked pretty bad. I feel like we are all getting better in here boys. Lets keep it up for the new year.

[Anonymous No.4263985]

Okay guys I have just about zero experience in art aside from very basic knowledge of perspectives. That said, I’m looking to get into something more comic-like, perhaps like a graphic novel. I am beneath beginner, I’m really just looking for advice on where to begin for something that has a more cartoonish-style while also being detailed. Any anons here that do stuff like that? I would love to see your stuff and where you began. The comic King City and the illustrations of Chris Riddell come to mind.

Thanks for any help at all guys. I doodled pic related on my break at work, would love to set aside time for something more focused. Thanks a lot.

[Anonymous No.4263996]

So I'm trying out perspective for the first time in literally 10 years, and I was wondering if some anons could help me understand what's going on here. The right half is my first attempt, and the left side is my second attempt. The lines on the middle box were me dividing the boxes in half for the box sizes on the second attempt. There's also a middle point on the center box that I'm using as reference to give the boxes a third dimension. These are also all done by eye with no guide, so please keep that in mind. How true are my assumptions about this, and what else can I work on here?

Here's what I "know" so far about it:
1. I need to try and get my lines to stop on the points rather than over or under shooting.
2. I need to reduce the spacing between the boxes linearly, likely the same scale as the box sizes themselves.
3. I need to bring my "horizon points" in for this exercise and actually make them points rather than lines.

[Anonymous No.4264000]

>>4263971
What do you need? Figure, construction, perspective, doodle?

[Anonymous No.4264003]

>>4263996
3 is optional and should only be done to check imo. Its really important to be able to draw the boxes without plotting. 1 is just going to take time and will never be perfect. 2: Yes the farther boxes should have less space which you actually did I think. Next this excercise is most important if you do the diagonals. Those are the hardes ones. Do a cross of these then fill the missing boxes. Side views are easy and they look good. One thing I would not is that the shapes are changing a bit. The last one in the line is too tall. Shorten it a bit.

[Anonymous No.4264055]

>>4264003
Thank you for the suggestion and advice. I appreciate it. I can see what's going wrong in my third attempt here, but this is what you mean by the cross right? Though, ideally, I'd form the four "pillars" before doing diagonals, but I digress.

[Anonymous No.4264093]

>>4263996
>>4264055
You need to be converging EVERY line on the blocks, not just two. Your bottom row right side is closest to correct, however you're bending your lines a little, you want to avoid that for now. Good practice though, keep drawing boxes and try to have fun with it. I like to draw tumbles of cubes of all different sizes and try to find a viewpoint I haven't used yet.

[Anonymous No.4264094]

tips/thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4264100]

>>4264093
Thanks for the advice, anon. That's what I noticed too, I need to draw a ton of boxes so I can learn this properly. For now, I sleep. Tomorrow, boxes!

[Anonymous No.4264101]

pls gib advice, whether it be to tell me to kms or not, I sooorta have a more clear goal of what I want to draw but it feels like I’m running around in circles

[Anonymous No.4264103]

>>4263203
>darker lines
Not that anon, but using light lines when sketching is perfectly fine, I'd even encourage it. Then when you're sure you like the way it looks, you darken the lines. I've had so much difficulty trying to erase dark lines in the past that I always use lighter lead with light pressure.

[Anonymous No.4264118]

>>4264094
loomis

[Anonymous No.4264126]

>>4264094
Please remember to draw the forehead. Keep your philtrum's lenght in check.

[Anonymous No.4264127]

>>4264103
I mean, he can use a softer lead to get dark lines that can easily be erased, too

[Anonymous No.4264138]

hows this?

[Anonymous No.4264176]

>>4263259
It looks ugly because the facial proportions are wrong. The eyes are too small and too far away, and the mouth is the wrong shape. You can overlay it with your ref to see exactly what you did wrong.

[Anonymous No.4264206]

Whew I spent 2 weeks without doing a full drawing, videogames and visual novels really eat away your time.
Anyways is this good looking to you? My drawing skill itself is still not very clean but if people like it I can be happy.
I did use a reference though so I can't claim to be naturally this good

[Anonymous No.4264209]

>>4264206
I really liked these poses and drawing, very full of energy, so I referenced them

[Anonymous No.4264221]

fat asuka
please correct anatomical mistakes

[Anonymous No.4264319]

I need your thoughts

[Anonymous No.4264380]

>>4264101
I can't tell what you're trying to do.
Is that conch shaped thing at the side of the head a horn or something?
The clothing folds look deeply unnatural.
One arm and leg are twice the size of the others, so whatever perspective you were going for doesn't really work.

[Anonymous No.4264436]

Is my gesture drawing shit?

[Anonymous No.4264463]

>>4264319
>the 6th drawing
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?

[Anonymous No.4264503]

>>4264221

[Anonymous No.4264535]

>>4264463
lol i didnt notice how shit it really looked it's the earliest one so i had include

[Anonymous No.4264542]

>>4264463
a tortured face/skull something no refs

i was playing with charcoal

[Anonymous No.4264573]

I'm trying to start drawing more with my arm and less with my wrist, but when i try it looks like i have no hand-eye coordination, the heigh of my table/monitor compared to my head has a big impact to this?

[Anonymous No.4264645]

>>4259888
The hands should be pretty big I think. I think you underestimate a normal humans handsize

[Anonymous No.4264740]

for fundamentals on figure drawing what do you recommend? some time ago that dude proko said i should focus 1 week on gesture, then simplification on the torso for 1 week and so on.

Where do i find constant references for practicing? Sorry im a noob

[Anonymous No.4264944]

>>4264380
thanks for the advice, really want to look into how clothing folds work so I’ll watch some Pin2d vids covering it
> Is that conch shaped thing at the side of the head a horn or something?
yep, the character in my drawing is pic rel, supposed to be a sheep but my lack of drawing animals shows, sorry for the ant image

[Anonymous No.4264977]

>>4264740
>for fundamentals on figure drawing what do you recommend
Gesture drawing.
characterdesigns.com
quickposes.com

[Anonymous No.4265083]

>>4262222
>>4262171
>>4262145
Took some advice and started to 3d draw, looks better just need to add some details.

[Anonymous No.4265098]

>>4264977
Man I had never heard of characterdesigns.com thanks so much man.

[Anonymous No.4265133]

>>4265129
>>4265129
>>4265129

[Anonymous No.4265458]

>>4264977
Thanks

[Anonymous No.4266463]

Been workin on loom and Michael hampton's anatomy. Ik these dudes are more cartoony than physiologically correct but im still working on gesture in general b4 i really try to polish poo poo
>also i am aware that certain parts of the image are completely out of tge perspective i established
I think i need to start drawing from real things. Been only doing imagination. Also does this have soul

[Anonymous No.4267547]

>>4264436
watch proko gesture video playlist

[Anonymous No.4267593]

It's not perfect but it turned out believable to me

[Anonymous No.4267772]

[Anonymous No.4267944]

>>4261812
I love it anon, would like to see you do guys in this style too.