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Why does Loomis teach that one should draw men who look more exaggerated than the average man? I don't think the figure on the far left looks "dumpy," I think he looks like a regular person. It's the other figures that appear unusual, like what someone would draw if they're trying to depict a very fake, plastic sort of fantasy. If I'm learning figure drawing, shouldn't I want to depict people as they are rather than "idealized," "perfect" versions?

>> No.4250909
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4250909

>>4250905
cranky because youre dumpy arent you

>> No.4250910
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loomis was gay

>> No.4250918

>>4250905
Idealized versions are as the name implies more appealing to look at generally speaking. Loomis had his work featured in advertising/magazines/fashion related outlets so it makes perfect sense to have figures that represent an ideal athletic/model type figure.
The same can generally be said for stylized works where a more appealing/heroic/goodlooking etc is typically preferable. As far as learning goes a 8 Head tall figure is just a very easy to remember and easy to divide benchmark. 4 heads down to the crotch. 4 heads long on the legs etc. so it's good to use at least those kinds of vertical proportions.

>> No.4250923

>>4250905
Because idealized proportions look right. Regular proportions feel like midgets and nobody likes midgets.

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>>4250905
Loomis runs on some retarded superman fantasy, his head construction is the same, Huston brought it up a couple of times

>> No.4250941

>>4250910
>ideal proportion
>ideal
kek

>> No.4250944

>>4250905
"WHY ARTIST NOT DRAW AVERAGE PEOPLE GRRRRR"

>> No.4250964

>>4250933
where is the pic from?

>> No.4250965

>>4250964
Head construction
He talks about it again in advanced head construction

>> No.4251021

>>4250910
>loomis was a trannyfag

>> No.4251036

>>4250905
>I think the one labeled "normal" looks like a regular person.
>I think the ones labeled "idealized" aren't normal
Wow. I really think you're onto something.

>> No.4251047

>>4250910
why her ass wrong

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4251170

>>4250909
Idk anon but these first mannequins sure are dumpy.
Fuck, I'm slow at this, too.

>> No.4252243

>>4251047
It just looks wrong because her torso is long as fuck.

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>>4250905
He was an illustrator for magazine and advertisements, of fucking course his figures would be idealized.

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>>4252243
She also literally has no ass.

Much prefer based Vilppu's women.

>> No.4252307

>>4250905
it's idealized bc any woman with an actual pussy would choose the ones on the right

>> No.4252321

>>4250905
I remember this being explained as thoroughly as possible in the introduction to that book which was coincidentally also the only part worth reading

>> No.4252323

>>4251170
Why did the upper legs grow as the mannequin sat down?

>> No.4252493

>>4252323
Understood that the sitting figure is 6 1/3 heads tall, accidentally made the torso too short by putting the crotch 1/3 a head below the navel rather than a full head, and as a consequence accidentally made the legs an extra head long to compensate and created sitting slenderman.

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Something to note is that headshape and appearance affects how we view it too. Yeah, i can see its kinda idealizeable with bigger over smaller. But its kinda cringe how he choose to draw a balding, unmasculine man and compare it to superman just to exaggerate the effects of proportion.

>> No.4254238

>>4250905
Use Robert Beverly Hale's cranial units if you want accuracy.

>> No.4254362

>>4253086
twink on the left

>> No.4254465

>>4252247
dumb cade

>> No.4254480

>>4250910
>incorporating shoes in an anatomical proportion canon
lol americans

>> No.4254493

>>4250905
Advertisement. They didnt have Instagram models and photoshop back in the day, so illustrators used idealized ideas of human bodies that appeal to the masses. Hence why Loomis is full of pinup women with retarded waists and child feet.