vent thread

[Anonymous No.4250298]

vent art pains here instead of elsewhere

[Anonymous No.4250317]

Im sad

[Anonymous No.4250320]

>>4250317
Tell us why you are sad fren.

[Anonymous No.4250342]

>>4250298
Board still shit

[Anonymous No.4250389]

if I put as much time into drawing as I did into video games back in the day, I would be pro level already.
what's the art equivalent of learning to rocket jump like a sick cunt and railgun noobs mid air in quake?

[Anonymous No.4250419]

Im sad.
I wish I had an art gf who I can draw with and share my porn/fetish drawings without worrying about being judged or humiliated.

[Anonymous No.4250422]

>>4250389
Drawing all the time, every day.
Doing art requests every now and then to break up the monotony helps sometimes.

[Anonymous No.4250425]

I want to have grit. I don't know how to get grit. My aversion to responsibility and hard work will be what brings me down from my ivory tower of fortuitous happenstance. All I can think about is the inevitable time where I'll need to be self-sufficient, and I'm nowhere near enough of a normally developed adult to do that now. I lack discipline, both for art, and for reality. I wish I knew how to circumvent that. I wish I had grit.

[Anonymous No.4250434]

>>4250419
what are your porn/fetish drawings of

[Anonymous No.4250447]

>>4250434
light ryona
bdsm
futa
ugly_man
cbt
big_breasts
futasub
gentle_femdom
muscular_back

would you like to know more

[Anonymous No.4250448]

>>4250320
I practice daily but I barely improve. I wish drawing would either get either easier or enjoyable

[Anonymous No.4250453]

>>4250448
For me it's the other way around.
Once a week or so a concept "clicks" and a produce a half decent drawing. The next day, I can't even do a simple head study. Scribble around producing garbage, until the next "epiphany". I wish I could draw with consistent quality every day, even if it's mediocre. One mediocre drawing a day seems a lot better than one half decent one a month.

[Anonymous No.4250457]

>>4250447
no

[Anonymous No.4250458]

>>4250447
You sound like you’d be into being humiliated tho

[Anonymous No.4250459]

>>4250447
I want to know more

[Anonymous No.4250460]

>>4250448
In order for you to improve and enjoy art again get out of your comfort zone, challenge yourself and you'll start to both improve and enjoy it like you used to.

[Anonymous No.4250461]

>>4250447
at least you know what you like.

[Anonymous No.4250462]

>>4250458
No, I hate the feeling of being humiliated. But observing it happen to someone else is somewhat cathartic, as messed up as it sounds.
I guess that's why so many people enjoy watching "Fail Compilations" on youtube (myself included).

[Anonymous No.4250463]

I feel like I've lost my will to draw, and I don't know how to get it back.

[Anonymous No.4250465]

Im really worried im not improving

[Anonymous No.4250474]

>>4250447
>futa
>big_breasts
>futasub
>gentle_femdom
>muscular_back
based

>light ryona
>bdsm
>cbt
kinda based

>ugly_man
kys

[Anonymous No.4250480]

>>4250447
>ugly_man
So you are one?

[Anonymous No.4250485]

>>4250480

[Anonymous No.4250510]

I wanna make money.
Yet I don't like drawing porn, It's not because of the pornographic nature itself. Its because I hate putting in hours on a drawing I know is meant to be consumed by the viewer for a few minutes then disposed of for something else.

I was never and still not a social media type of guy. I don't like sharing my personal life to the public because I'm a private person and I honestly can't tolerate some people in this business. Nothing to do with jealousy, its actually more because I think they can become even better. They're very talented yet I don't believe they want to push the envelope with their talent and improve further or do something no one has seen before, rather they follow trends and deny constructive critique.

[Anonymous No.4250516]

>want to create drawing
>don't want to actually draw because I don't have the skill to properly bring my visual ideas to fruition
I'm so tired

[Anonymous No.4250525]

>>4250459
Also really like mandhandling.

Especially if the guy is a giant and can literally wrap his fingers around the girls body with just one hand.

[Anonymous No.4250531]

>>4250342
This. And the fact that these vent threads get more replies than anything else.

[Anonymous No.4250552]

Venting is pretty useless and no one has an answer to your or my problems. It's like screaming for help into the void. No one can hear you and all you get is the feeling that you are truly alone.

[Anonymous No.4250559]

>>4250463
>give venter advice and some sort of comfort
>they say "o-oke"
>do nothing mentally nor physically to change the situation or thought process
>they proceed to copy paste the vent at a later date, looking for more attention
Fuck off

[Anonymous No.4250562]

>>4250298
I'm so lonely and horny.

[Anonymous No.4250571]

>>4250559
nice fanfiction

[Anonymous No.4250650]

>>4250552
we could definitely be friends.

[Anonymous No.4250661]

How do you manage to cope when your constantly bombarded by images and pictures that seem like eons beyond what you hope to be able to obtain a fraction of.

[Anonymous No.4250664]

>told myself dec 2018 if i havent seen significant improvement by the end of 2019 ill quit
>barely drawn all year, probably got worse

[Anonymous No.4250983]

>>4250463
I know that feel.
That's a cute mantis. Would say she's front heavy but I guess the abdomen balances things out.

[Anonymous No.4251015]

>avoid posting in /beg/ because it'll seem like I'm humblebragging or trying to flex on beginners
>avoid posting in /int/ because it'll seem like I'm delusional about my skill level
It ain't easy being mediocre.

[Anonymous No.4251073]

I don't think I want art career, I just want to be competent with drawing. Year I spent neeting and only doing my little art projects was one of the best times I had, and it mostly because I didn't have to worry about buying food and paying rent. When I started freelancing I gor burned out in 3 months, doing art for someone else, even if it aligns with you interests, when your survival at stake saps all the enjoyment I had in it. The only course of action I see for myself is having a non-art related career to pay bills and work on art for myself in free time, hoping I can gather enough passive income to support working full time on personal projects.

[Anonymous No.4251172]

>>4250298
I put so much time into my work and I try so hard to get things right but it always comes out bad regardless and it's bumming me out.

[Anonymous No.4251180]

>>4251172
As a beginner, draw many shitty things instead of one mediocre thing.
Fixing a bad thing is a less useful skill than learning to make it not bad in the first place. Time spent fixing a drawing is time spent not learning to draw.

Everybody wants to create finished, appealing works, but ain't nobody wants to fill a sketchbook with horrible looking scribbles. If you use the time spent fixing something on instead drawing it many times, you'll get more improvement per hour spent.

In my opinion, polishing is a manual, routine process that has nothing to do with drawing. It's the same with any craft, desu. You don't learn metalworking by polishing metal, you polish it so it looks good enough to sell.

[Anonymous No.4251188]

I don't WANNA draw this comic i'm BORED and this part is BORING and I don't WANT to mess with the panels as if they're a rubix cube i HATE RUBIX CUBES and this is JUST LIKE ONE everytime you move one another one gets moved its awful!! why could i be so good at this type of drawing but so bad at rubix cube!! and why are clients so annoying always trying to shove too much into a page or using too many boring words! boringn words dont' belong in a comic! wah wah wah wah wah! i dont wanna get started i wanna go get a free hotdog!!! and a free mountain dew and maybe I will take a dr pepper because I am feeling cheeky today!

[Anonymous No.4251190]

>>4250664
Why didn't you draw more. I'm guessing you play lots of video games

[Anonymous No.4251196]

> give up writing as a hobby for art, because it makes me happier
> spend a year fucking around with styles and trying to figure out where I want this art thing to go
> really enjoy drawing comic style art
> decide to create a comic
> realise I have to spend an ungodly amount of time writing a script first
> fuck me

[Anonymous No.4251198]

please don't make me use my brain for things
i just want my brain to be freee

[Anonymous No.4251202]

My problem is the a ruminate too much on negative thinking. Doesn't help I have depression to live. I know I need to change my mindset.
Instead of saying, "I wish I can draw," "I can't draw" "I'm not very good," etc.
I should say, "I will draw," "I can draw," "I will get better."

The problem is that it's hard to remember that when I am beating myself down.

[Anonymous No.4251207]

>>4250425
Best way to mature is to go through pain without the option of going back to mom and dad. Say fuck it and move out vro

[Anonymous No.4251215]

>>4251196
A lot of people wing it, the visuals come first before the story

[Anonymous No.4251220]

I'll become extremely distracted for a week, then I'll see an escort and bam, gains are more consistent after.

[Anonymous No.4251224]

>>4251202
You need a mantra. Put it on post it notes around your life. Put it on your bathroom mirror, put it on your monitor, put it on your phone. Everytime you see it, say it. Something like, "I am motivated, i will be a pro artist, i will draw every day and I will get better". Saying that multiple times a day will make it habit. It will feel dumb and fake at first but work through it and it will just be a part of you.
>>4251015
Stop caring what crabs say, post just for you. As an adult you should be able to tell the difference between crabs being bitchy and someone being genuine and offering critique. Ask specific questions if you have them. Otherwise post and move on. You're on 4chan so you know you'll get 10% useful advice and 90% trolls, crabs, and gatekeepers. Honestly I'm thinking of making an all inclusive thread just for people to post what they're working on, call it /ic/ studio or something because the /beg/ and /int/ threads are just too gate-keepy.
>>4250448
If you dont like what you're doing, do something else.

[Anonymous No.4251225]

>>4250559
fixing someone's life is a lot harder than just giving them advice, we try everyday to do what we need to and fail over and over. sometimes all people want is someone to listen, ask questions and talk to them rather than tell them what to do, that made me feel better about moving forward the other day for once. and this is a vent thread, not an advice thread so fuck off yourself.

[Anonymous No.4251236]

>>4251224
To be honest it feels like both /beg/ and /int/ and the draw thread are only there so people can get a dopamine hit from posting something and possibly getting a reply. I'm guilty of that as well. Sometimes after working all day on something, I just want the gratification of showing it to people, even if I know which mistakes need fixing. And even if people give decent critique, it's all stuff I knew already because I deliberately posted something too early.

desu my best critic is my mom. She doesn't know anything about art, but sometimes walks into my room, takes a glance on my screen and says something like "nose looks weird" or "you made him too skinny". And I'm like "oh. right".
She used to do the whole supportive "wow, that's amazing", "I'm proud of you" routine early on, which was obviously fake since she's a very blunt person naturally. So I told her to just tell me the truth.

[Anonymous No.4251261]

>>4250447
Uh, based..?

[Anonymous No.4251272]

>check some artists who I used to like before I started to draw 3 years ago
>they're stagnating and their new works look like works from 5 years ago
>feel kinda good that at least my works looks better than year ago
>then check other artists who started drawing around the same time as me
>they improved in 1 year and now draw better than me
>feels like i'm gonna be tonight's biggest loser

[Anonymous No.4251279]

>>4251236
Based mother relstionship, I want that

[Anonymous No.4251290]

>>4250298
>want to draw person or thing
>cant think of situation scenario, pose facial expression, to put them in.
>when rare idea happens to partly come up
>lack skills and knowledge to draw said thing
Every damn time

[Anonymous No.4251297]

I have a very embarrassing problem.
I draw very small, both on paper and with a tablet.
Unless I can see the entire drawing AND some space around it, I get lost immediately. Despite having an A4 tablet, I draw on a very small part of it, ditto for the screen. My drawing takes up literally like 5% of my screen real estate. I have started making ridiculously large canvases so that when I crop my drawing, it's still in decent resolution.

Another problem is that I have to have a very specific ratio of brush size to size of drawing. Again, if the line is too thin, the drawing disappears from my peripheral vision and I get lost.

I've been doing this shit for years now and I don't know how to stop. Literally looking at a 4 inch tall canvas on my 24 inch diameter screen WHILE squinting.

[Anonymous No.4251327]

>paused drawing for a bit over 2 weeks ago
>witnessed my dog slowly die away over a week then pass, last week
>beyond half way into the holiday season and im still jobless since no retail place wants to hire a sperg like me
>spent my birthday alone clogging my arteries with a succulent chinese meal
im too sad to pick up a pencil and dont know if i'll ever get back

[Anonymous No.4251328]

>>4250434
/fit/ or /sticc/ women, sensual stuff, french kissing, mouth stuff in general, power bottoms, mutual climaxes, leg-locking, endless fucking.
sometimes footfag stuff.
I'm glad you asked.

[Anonymous No.4251337]

>>4251272
Everything will be alright. Just apply yourself, get in the right frame of mind. Generally, draw because you want to, do not focus too much on improving. Save that for studying.
>draw more lol

[Anonymous No.4251346]

>dont draw all day
>start drawing like 10 minutes before bed
>I actually like how it looks but I now I gotta choose between being tired all day tomorrow or stopping

Drawing mario boos getting dicked was worth it

[Anonymous No.4251377]

>>4250552
It helps me, like a toddler that just needs to release. After a tantrum/bitching I feel more focused.

That being said, I have been working at the post office for the past year and got a week off due to an injury. I’ve decided I’m not going back. I absolutely do not care about my supervisor and the two weeks notice courtesy. It’s bratty but I cannot deliver another amazon package, already registered for the spring semester. Hated all my coworkers (except for the two boomers ironically) and would rather not show my face there again. Fuck them. The entire time I’ve been there I was only able to squeeze in a few sketches, all that time lost. Never gonna it get back. Sad.

[Anonymous No.4251408]

>>4251225
>not an advice thread
>>4251225
>so fuck off yourself.
Not an advice thread, fuck off beef curtains

[Anonymous No.4251437]

>after learning proportion, anatomy, and gesture, I'll be able to draw the human figure in any pose I want!
>there's only a couple dozen poses that look good and make sense, composition wise
Anyone else knows this feel?

[Anonymous No.4251464]

>>4251437
Yes.
It is suffering.

[Anonymous No.4251471]

>>4251437
>>4251464
Any pose can be good if it's targeted towards coomers.
Unlimited coomworks.

[Anonymous No.4251534]

>>4250447
Rate

[Anonymous No.4251536]

>>4251534
based except for
scat, vomit, and piss_drinking

[Anonymous No.4251552]

>>4251536
That’s the redpilled part

[Anonymous No.4251562]

>>4250298
why shading and coloring is so hard...

[Anonymous No.4251616]

>>4251534
>mfw lost all fetishes except for guro, ryona and tentacles

[Anonymous No.4251623]

>>4251616
I was hardcore into guro, but now it just seems gay.

[Anonymous No.4251729]

>>4251623
Ya it’s super gay, look at his muscly arms grabbing for cocks

[Anonymous No.4251850]

can these e-girl tuwumblr cocksucking faggots shut the fuck up and stop tweeting about UNNGNHHH UHHHHHHH SKSKSKS BHJLKJSK I HAVE IT SO HARD PEOPLE DONT LIKE MY CONTENT ENOUGH you already have 5 digit followers on 4 different platforms shut the fuck up. i hate social media.

[Anonymous No.4251884]

I went to study art at uni
I heard people saying stuff about state of art and design courses, but jesus fucking christ I'm beyond disappointed

[Anonymous No.4251890]

CGPEERS IS FUCKING DEAD AHHHHH AHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.4251935]

I feel like I've gotten slightly better, but my mental health is deteriorating.

I haven't had a spoken conversation in ~2 weeks, I'm not sure I even remember how to talk properly.
The sounds and hum I hear have become more frequent and clear, it's still background noise but very frightening
I don't know what's going to happen to me
Some days, it feels like I might drop dead on the spot, but not physically
I can't see myself in five years time, or even two.


Every question I ask myself seems to be answered with "I don't know".
What's wrong? What's the problem? What's the solution? What can I do? What can I affect and what's beyond me?
I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know

[Anonymous No.4251960]

Kinda wish I was in art school. Not because I think it will be the only way I can learn, but because it'll give me an art environment and probably some kind of insight daily. I also want to just feel at peace studying what I want, and not feel my family hound on me for being unemployed. I can't fake it and apply for coarses I'm not interested in. I just want to live in peace even if it means I'm very poor. I don't live near a city so it's like bumfuck nowhere land here so I havent made any friends.
I just want a taste of college but I dont want to be put in debt... I couldn't apply for financial aid last year because I couldn't state my familys income because my dad wasnt working on the books, and I quit my short term job because it was emotionally abusing daily. I just wanna escape for a while and learn what I want to

[Anonymous No.4252264]

>blue moon and finally do a good drawing
>can't render and do your own drawing justice
Just fuck my shit up.

[Anonymous No.4252410]

>>4250298
>get super horny
>have a really specific scenario/fantasy in my mind
>decide to draw it
>finish
>bust fat nut
>feel ashamed and embarrassed with myself afterwards
>want to delete the image, but can't bring myself to since its one of the only times I was actually being productive while drawing in a long time
anyone else?

[Anonymous No.4252439]

>clocked almost a total of 10000 hours on video games
>if only half of that was invested into drawing

[Anonymous No.4252478]

>>4251729
imagine a hot chick tying you down and teasing you only to call guro in to give you a forced handjob.
>>4251935
>I can't see myself in five years time, or even two.
whenever i hear someone talking about the future and 'where will you be' my mental answer is 'dead in the gutter', i have no connections or standout skill to be anywhere else.
>>4252410
keep it somewhere no one can find it and dont be ashamed in your thoughts/art as they cant hurt anyone.

[Anonymous No.4252491]

why are midtones so fucking hard, how am I supposed to figure out where the shadows are when everything is a smooth gradient of nondescript value transitioning into another smooth gradient
i'm so tired

[Anonymous No.4252530]

>>4252439
>wasted 5450 hours and it's only steam games
>2100 of those is dota

[Anonymous No.4252814]

why am I not making art

[Anonymous No.4252841]

Life is finally crushing me. I'm getting bored of everything, not even vidya satisfies me anymore. I barely did any art, and what little I did felt more like a chore than something I wanted to do.
I want friends but at the same time I don't want to put any effort into getting them, and I know I won't care anyways.
I'm so retarded.

[Anonymous No.4252843]

>>4252841
>not even vidya satisfies me anymore.
No shit. You probably realized it wasted a big portion of your life. like mine

[Anonymous No.4252889]

>>4251884
My graphic design class was absolutely ass
>dont teach you shit
>keeps using the same video to teach you the art of design and they reuse it for every fucking GS class

[Anonymous No.4252987]

>>4252530
>~5500 hours wasted on steam games
>4821 of those hours are tf2

[Anonymous No.4252993]

>>4250298
Well the fluoride and chlorine in the water supply is now affecting my lines, they are getting more curved over time and I had straight lines before but now the wigger chemicals are affecting my phsysical motor skills.

[Anonymous No.4253058]

>>4250425
you talk like a fag and your shit's all retarded, start with that

[Anonymous No.4253184]

>>4252478
Hoarding it only makes me feel worse...

[Anonymous No.4253192]

I wish I would stop getting scared of drawing before I even try. Once I hit my groove I feel so fucking free and happy, but getting there is nothing but internal pain and I don't fucking get it. Why can't I just draw?

[Anonymous No.4253230]

>>4253192

ya gotta ritualize drawing
make a ritual first
like do 5 pushups or something
look in the mirror and say "drawing makes me feel good"
it's your ritual, you decide what to do
then, do your ritual before you draw
now the big key here is to actually draw
don't just sit and stare at references or worry about the blank page
draw as hard as you fucking can for at least 20 minutes
pay attention to NOTHING but drawing
never forget your ritual
ritual first, then crank yourself up to 11 and draw like a motherfucker
do this a few times times and you'll have the beginnings of a habit
eventually the ritual will replace the fear and doubt you feel

[Anonymous No.4253392]

>>4250447
>light ryona
you will literally never have a gf if this is what you thought to list first, holy shit

[Anonymous No.4253414]

taking meds makes me too tired to draw and kills my muse but if i don't take them I'm too depressed to draw. guess i was never meant to be an artist.

[Anonymous No.4253554]

>>4253414
>too tired
Insert caffeine until not tired

[Anonymous No.4253561]

>>4253392
Why not?

[Anonymous No.4253594]

It just hurts so fucking much.

The only thing I've ever wanted in life is to be able to draw amazing things, but every time I pick up a pen I feel a literal fear response. I've been trying to learn for years and I'm still absolute shit.

[Anonymous No.4253612]

>>4252530
what rank are you though?

[Anonymous No.4253642]

>>4253594
I had the same problem, I'd get a mild panic attack from looking at a canvas. Made me quit drawing. Five years, some therapy, a couple stays at the mental ward a course of anti-psychotics later, I can finally draw again.
Thank god it's over. Too bad I lost my youth to mental illness, but at least I'm drawing again.

[Anonymous No.4253712]

i just wasted 7 hours playing videogames and 3 hours watching jerma

[Anonymous No.4253735]

>>4250447
lmao

...yeh

[Anonymous No.4253745]

>>4251327
>>spent my birthday alone clogging my arteries with a succulent chinese meal
you are lucky though on this one
sweet& sour chicken... with red sauce,,, fresh rice, fortune cookies....
amazing....

[Anonymous No.4253868]

>>4252410
Post it pussy

[Anonymous No.4253918]

>Stop by comic book shop I was interested in working at(only comic book store in my area that also has a sizeable manga & figure section)
>Manager is there working, seems friendly, ask him if he's got any kind of part-time position open
>"Yous got a resume or somethin? Where you work at before?"
>Ah I can print or email my resume, I used to work at x warehouse and z store, I got plenty of customer service exp
>Oh I also draw, I'm an artist, I'm into comics and manga, so this type of store/work is exactly what I'm looking for yadda yadda
>"Okay and why you only want part time work?"
>Stupidly, wanted to say "Unless I can draw when there's downtime, I need time to work on art so I can't do full time hours."
>Instead my spectacularly retarded mouth spits out something like "Uhh if i work full time when there's downtime can I draw here??"
>Understandably he gets insulted and starts tearing me a new one
>"Yeah I'd never hire someone like you after hearing that shit"
>Mind went blank, flight mode activates and I leave fast as possible

why did god cripple me with a brain this incredibly autistic

[Anonymous No.4253931]

>>4253918
>>4253918
I actually winced while reading this.

[Anonymous No.4253948]

>>4253918
I don't get it.
What's so insulting about that statement?

[Anonymous No.4253958]

>>4253948
He basically took it as "This guy wants me to hire him to draw on the clock!" It was also incredibly stupid for me to try to bring up "downtime activities" 3 minutes into our psuedo-interview. Basically i was a random shmuck who popped in to ask for a job and immediately asked if i can get paid for not working to this guy.

[Anonymous No.4253975]

>>4253958
It's the truth though, isn't it.
You were going to draw during downtime anyway.
Fuck them social games and shit, gotta tell it like it is.

[Anonymous No.4253987]

>>4250552
Do you know that shouting when you're in pain actually reduces your pain?

Well that's the same thing here.

Verbalizing your inner conflicts also can resolve them.

[Anonymous No.4253989]

>>4251236
>To be honest it feels like both /beg/ and /int/ and the draw thread are only there so people can get a dopamine hit from posting something and possibly getting a reply

That's what's ruining these threads desu,

Also based mom, keep it up

[Anonymous No.4254030]

This board and everyone in it is fucking retarded. Noone in here knows their shit, it's all /begs/ guiding other /begs/, one every two posts is made by a literal child, and there's zero good art being made. I don't know any other art community worth posting in and it's literally impossible to get an art job anyways.

[Anonymous No.4254153]

>>4252530
Stop playing it right now. Your life will get better.
>>4253612
4k hours 3k mmr hardstuck here btw

[Anonymous No.4254177]

I’m so sick of reading the word “appealing.” appealing shapes appealing colors appealing lines IM GOING TO THROW UP SHIT FUCK YOU QUEERS. if I see one of you type appealing one more time I’ll be appealing your skin off and turn it into luggage

[Anonymous No.4254270]

>>4253918
Kek lmao anon what the fuck

[Anonymous No.4254272]

>>4254177
stfu autismo shitter

[Anonymous No.4254291]

>>4253918
hang in there brother, ive done worse in an interview.

[Anonymous No.4254301]

Why am I still so shit at drawing? I've been practicing for almost 10 years. I still fucking suck. I can't draw a face right, it comes out crooked. Why the fuck can't I draw a fucking face right? I have practiced everything, in every way. I studied so goddamn fucking hard, every fucking single day for fucking years, and there are 16 year olds who draw better, with more ease than me. How is it fucking possible that I suck so fucking much? Do I have brain damage? I wish I had a fucking shotgun, I am so fucking sick of being a fucking failure. I can't even draw. I'm a fucking shitty NEET because I wanted to waste my miserable useless life drawing and I can't even draw. What the fuck, I'm so tired, I'm so goddamn tired.

[Anonymous No.4254303]

>>4250453
I feel you :(

[Anonymous No.4254359]

>too tired to keep painting
>cant fall asleep

[Anonymous No.4254388]

>>4254272
USE ANOTHER WORD

[Anonymous No.4254585]

I found someone who's artstyle is extremely similar to mine but he's way better.
I'm not doing too well.

[Anonymous No.4254586]

>>4254585
So this the artistic equivalent of being cucked.

[Anonymous No.4254591]

>>4254586
Sure feels like it

[Anonymous No.4254608]

oh god there is so much to learn, fuck.
anatomy, gesture, line technique, composition, color, values, portraiture, even the education required to have a visual library to come up with interesting designs for clothing, architecture, accessories for characters (medieval weapons/armor, automobiles, technology, etc), it feels like it'll be another 15 years before I can draw something "for fun" and and not have it come out like shit, either due to technical ineptitude or ignorance of the subject I'm portraying.
I did nothing but soulless technical studies of physical objects for months now, attempting to burn them into my visual memory, but instead I'm burning out. The idea of drawing for fun when I KNOW it will look like shit is repulsive to me. So I just do studies, and have nothing to show for it. Nobody even knows that I draw, because I have nothing to show to anyone.

[Anonymous No.4254657]

>>4254585
>>4254591
>artists shares the same tastes as you, posts like you and is popular because theyre skilled, unlike you

[Anonymous No.4254856]

>>4254585
>who's artstyle is extremely similar to mine but he's way better.
So it's not similar at all.
RETARD

[Anonymous No.4254861]

>>4254388
but anon, the other words just aren't as appealing...

[Anonymous No.4254886]

>it's another episode of wacom drivers causing their stupid hitch at the start of a brushstroke
I want to neck myself.

[Anonymous No.4254990]

I did a little sexy but still clothed drawing for once, and I got more followers than the usual. No wonder do people fall into the porn rabbit hole, but I don't want that.

[Anonymous No.4255003]

>>4254886
>tfw it's been nearly five years since I've updated my drivers and have never had a single problem with Wacom
When will you fags learn that updates in today are not really updates but instead shit that monitors you to become a marketable asset and sell you crap you don't need?

[Anonymous No.4255232]

>>4254359
>By the time I realize I'm not exhausted enough to sleep I've already been in bed for 2 hours and it's already 3:00AM or later
Every time.

[Anonymous No.4255281]

Does anyone else not really like their own work?

It's not really a skill thing. I've grinded fundies a lot and I think that skill-wise I'm in a pretty good place. Obviously I can still improve and will keep learning, but I still don't like the things I make when I compare it to what I see others post. Like the aesthetic isn't quite how I want, I guess. I'm not sure how I can change how I naturally draw though.

Lately, I've been very sad about it all. When I draw and work hard on something I still feel disappointment in myself, even if maybe I should be happy that I at least finished.

I'm not sure, I wonder if any of you feel that way too. It just feels like I've spent a long time "getting good" and that it still won't ever be an area I'm confident in, even if it is my profession.

Drawing and painting are the only things that I'm not terrible at, so it hurts a lot to feel like I'm failing at all I'm good for.

[Anonymous No.4255333]

>Do lineart
>Start masking
>So far so good, begin with base colors
>Urge to fap rising
Not again. Seriously considering putting on a Chasity. Do those even work or are they just a meme?

[Anonymous No.4255527]

>>4255333
they keep your dick from getting hard and stop you from touching yourself

[Anonymous No.4255558]

>>4255333
Do it or else you'll never overcome the lewd feelings

[Anonymous No.4255560]

Can't decide if I want to continue drawing at 4 am or go to sleep
Do you fags have a preferred time of day to draw. I hate drawing when the sun is setting because it roasts my room until it's burning hot

[Anonymous No.4255563]

>>4255560
At night because I'm a dumb fuck who stays up despite needing sleep. but whatever it takes.

[Anonymous No.4255570]

>>4255281
I'm in a similar boat. That's why I've been swallowed up by a complex where I need approval in order to keep going. Without it, I have no drive because the thing I'm good at is, deep down, meaningless to me. Most things are, so I can't really divert my attention toward something more fruitful. My whole reason for existing is based on other people's opinions of me. Anyway, I'd like to see your work if you have some.

[Anonymous No.4255605]

I have never finished a drawing.
I enjoy the process of exploring techniques and ideas, but actually making a finished piece feels like a chore. Yeah, yeah I need to clean up the lines and render out some details, but why bother when the idea and "feel" of the work is already there? Why make it presentable when nobody but me will see it anyway?
Then I look at my art garbage folder and see all of those unfinished, pieces and get a bit sad.

[Anonymous No.4255609]

>>4255605
Maybe the sadness is a sign you actually do want to finish something

[Anonymous No.4255615]

>>4250298
after realizing how good I am, by everyone but /ic/s standards (and my own), I'm still retarded and dont draw but like 6 hours a week, usually in one night
and I don't know how to sell myself

[Anonymous No.4255634]

>>4255570
Yeah, I can agree with a lot of that sentiment. :( I'm hoping it's a small speed bump that can maybe make me grow stronger eventually, but for now it's kind of crippling me/my work because I'm losing confidence in it all. I think what's important is I'm gonna keep trying, I hope you do the same.

Pic is kinda bad cause it's just of my ipad, sorry. It's a character I'm trying to make based off a Rosy Maple Moth. ;--;

[Anonymous No.4255667]

Only about 1% of my followers acutally like what I do (I get 40-60 likes per post). That wouldn't be a problem if drawing wasn't my only chance to get some money. I've changed my focus and became more general in what I draw so I understand people who aren't very fond of it. But still, I wonder if I screwed up Twitter algorithm. I am short on time and if I don't manage to earn money now, I really don't know where I am going to be in a few months.

[Anonymous No.4255691]

does it count if I just vent off by drawing my frustrations away?
cause that's what I do.

[Anonymous No.4255704]

>>4255609
it's more like I get envious of people for all the praise / attention they're getting for their art, and I'm like "I could do that! I've studied enough'
"oh wait no, I couldn't. I never finished anything"

[Anonymous No.4255706]

>>4255333
if you like having erections at all you might want to forget about it.

[Anonymous No.4255712]

>>4255634
Cute moth. Keep up the good work anon

[Anonymous No.4255809]

I haven't drawn anything in 4 months, besides the occasional low-effort doodle
went through the majority of Keys to Drawing and then moved into Drawabox which sucked the life out of me
all I do now is look at Oddworld concept art and other people's cool drawings (have folders with 100s of pics now) and feel like shit knowing I'll never be one fraction as good, because I refuse to put any effort in and simply loathe the idea of having to learn all of the fundies so I can make my drawings '3D' as it were
I just sit there with a blank piece of paper, try to draw something cool, look at it, feel ashamed and then put it to rest

I've thought about getting into clay/3D modelling since it's more tangible and obviously 3D, and I find claymation and this guy's stuff really cool (instagram.com/lucasgeorgemitchell/) but who knows
kind of resigned to the fact that I'm doomed to be a consoomer and not a creative person, so TL;DR I'm NGMI

[Anonymous No.4255810]

>>4255003
I haven't updated my drivers. Also, they actually are updates. You can see their changelogs on their site.

[Anonymous No.4255825]

>>4255281
Maybe you need to exert conscious control over your artwork/artstyle. If you just let things flow, you might not like what you put out. Do you set aside any time to determine what you exactly want, even in a general sense?
>>4255634
Nice. Better than most of /ic/, I'd say.

[Anonymous No.4255884]

>>4254153
I don\t play dota after 7.00. I play tf2 for a year now, got 1000 hours few days ago.

[Anonymous No.4255898]

>>4254585
It's better, than
>artist with artstyle similar to yours but worse
>have 10 times more followers because someone popular retweeted them

[Anonymous No.4255953]

>this is the top of deviantart main page
I'm so fucking mad right now.

[Anonymous No.4255991]

I've gotten back into drawing again since I've got a load of free time now but I can't draw as much as I want to because of increasingly debilitating migraines. They get so bad that I can't look at my monitor or even draw on paper because a low lit lamp is too bright. I have worsening double vision in one eye that the migraines exacerbates and it makes me sad when I'm in the middle of a productive session and have to suddenly stop because of headaches/dizziness/light sensitivity. Fortunately I'm seeing a neurologist soon so I hope to have the issues under control and be able to draw as much as I want to in the future.

[Anonymous No.4255993]

>>4250298

I think this is the end of the road for me, friends. Drawing is the love of my life, but I've begun to value draftsmanship and technical skill less and less with each passing day.

At this point, I think my tastes are too deep in the avant-garde rabbit hole to recover. Most of the art I've been making recently were just shitty experiments and nothing else. I'm stagnating hard, I haven't done a study in months, and worst of all, I've begun to lose my drive for improvement altogether. I'm still enjoying myself as much as ever but this is not the position I want to be in at all.

What do?

[Anonymous No.4255994]

>>4250298
Artists are charging out the ass for commissions now and I can't keep affording to do it. The range that artists will draw is so limited that I might as well pick up drawing myself. I got things that need to be drawn and every artist under the sun is either full, not taking commissions, too expensive for the work their providing, or too pretentious to even reply to my messages.

I need anime tiddies drawn and at this point, I'm the only one who has enough patience to draw them.

[Anonymous No.4256261]

>decide to go to art school to force myself to practice fundies
>have to write papers for some classes
>too burnt out from researching and writing a paper that i don't have any energy to draw or paint and practice what i've learned from other classes

[Anonymous No.4256281]

>>4255991
Do I know you? I think I know you, Anon.

Hope your head gets better and please don't kys even if the migraines get really bad ok?

[Anonymous No.4256289]

I SIGNED UP FOR ART SCHOOL TO DRAW NOT TO FUCKING WRITE PAPERS

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.4256300]

>>4256261
News for you: if you have to write essays or take regular college courses to get a degree you're at the wrong school. Quit now

If you are going to an art trade school for a certificate then you're good and they should only make you draw all day long, getting you the best gains

[Anonymous No.4256305]

>>4256300
My art school has 2 paper writing requirements because the awarding body doesn't understand anything else. The teachers made sure it is as simple as possible and the research is just watching movies and looking at art. other than that its drawing or painting all day every day.

[Anonymous No.4256310]

>>4256305
Why are you complaining about two easy papers just bullshit your way through it

[Anonymous No.4256343]

applying to art schools soon
everything i make is bland and looke like a shite
want the die

[Anonymous No.4256350]

>>4256300
>>4256310
this school also focuses on how to market oneself as an artist
is it necessary? i don't know, but i get paid to attend these classes and i have learned alot i just never have the time or energy to practice

[Anonymous No.4256362]

>>4256281
You probably don't know me but thank you, I truly appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.4256431]

i'm 20, and somewhat new to art -- i'm unsure if i can get to the point with art i want to be soon, to draw the things i want to draw, and this has been keeping me back. but I'm realizing doing something is always going to trump doing nothing. so even though my sketches are shit and there are others that did what I should've done long ago (e.g. kept at seriously studying art through their teens, five good years from 15 to 20 of just art), i'll stop caring. if i practice steadily for a few years i might get very good.

i don't know, anons. i just worked it into my head that trying anything with art now is useless because i'm "too old" -- but that's fucking stupid, huh

[Anonymous No.4256433]

>>4256431
i'm going to stop browsing /ic/ too. this place is awful

[Anonymous No.4256450]

>>4256431
if that's your art and you're complaining at that age, im gonna pummel the shit out of you

[Anonymous No.4256460]

>>4256450
>if that's your art and you're complaining at that age, im gonna pummel the shit out of you
Check out BOY (@BOY_dearboys): https://twitter.com/BOY_dearboys?s=09

[Anonymous No.4256466]

>>4256460
??????????

[Anonymous No.4256505]

I honestly don't know what to do or think about art (or even life in general) anymore.
It's like it paradoxically has rules and no rules, shit like improvement and skill just appear and happen without any logic or reason no matter which reasons people try to use to back them up, anybody with even a slight ammount of mental issues is fucked forever in terms of learning anything, and it so happens that if you're a degenerate scumbag you can gain easy money and friends by milking retarded cumbrains.
>But what about the practices and studies?
I've been there, done that, and as a matter of fact nothing fucking worked.
I've tried all my best every single fucking time i grabbed a pencil to ask for criticism and help and i only ever got it 25% of the time, the rest of the time these backstabbing cunts either ignored my cries for help or said "IT'S GUD ENUFH", forcing me to either self-critique or scavenge for guides and references alone.
>Why don't you just keep drawing regardless?
Because i'm so fucking mentally drained, not to mention all of my hopes, dreams, and passion gone due to dealing with all of this shit for 7 years from both my pathetic, incompetent sperg ass and from a lot of the manipulative careless cunts who kept on growing without me. Hell, it's also been like a year since i last drawn nowadays.
>Show pics.
Here's pic related. Might just be reference images of the character, but have fun beating the shit out of me regardless.

[Anonymous No.4256522]

>>4250298
I was really hoping I could make a name for myself because I was tired of being alone, I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon though.

[Anonymous No.4256544]

>>4256466
that's the artist you godforsaken swine

[Anonymous No.4256552]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh! How do I draw creatively?!

[Anonymous No.4256566]

>>4250298
I don't believe i'll ever make it bros. How do you guys harvest motivation to believe you I'll one day make it?

[Anonymous No.4256578]

>>4256566
Unironically by drawing. The only moments where I feel I can get somewhere with my art is when I'm creating a piece, not before and not after.

[Anonymous No.4256584]

>>4256505
post your photo studies, life drawings and what not. or have you even tried drawing something that isn't babby cartoon shite

[Anonymous No.4256615]

>>4251935
Vasishta yoga

[Anonymous No.4256716]

>nobody replied to my gay ass rant

I didn't think it would bother me but I guess I posted it for a reason

[Anonymous No.4256725]

>>4251437
Idiot those poses that "don't make sense" are for study and understanding of the human body and it's abilities and limitations. I can tell by your post that you can't draw and are worse than /beg/. You're never gonna make it terrafag

[Anonymous No.4256750]

I'm so lonely.. How do I process this feeling? Drawing sad animu isn't helping.

[Anonymous No.4256763]

>>4256750
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85V7aqcwJ3Y
do what this guy did

[Anonymous No.4256850]

>>4256750
Most people are alone. Even people in relationships can be alone when it's not a good relationship. Learn to appreciate the solitude

[Anonymous No.4256945]

>>4250298
Fucking normos are more helpful at telling me what looks off then /beg/ is.

[Anonymous No.4256951]

>>4250389

Muscle memory? Don't just draw one thing and leave it at that, but draw it again and again and correct mistakes.

I see most retards here making a drawing and moving on to the next one, not even checking any mistakes they made. So, I think that drawing something, and then redrawing it several times is a good way to learn.

You don't just make a rocket jump once and move on to 360 noscoping.

[Anonymous No.4256966]

Often feeling shame and conflict for drawing porn of cartoons and avoiding making friends so i dont have to tell them about it, unless i already know they're into cartoon porn then wondering why im so lonely.

[Anonymous No.4256967]

>>4250298

>Want to draw.
>Can't force myself to do it.
>Finally do it.
>Holy fucking shit, you're garbage.
>Stop drawing.
>One week of NEET life passes.
>Want to draw..
>Can't force myself to do it.

[Anonymous No.4256969]

>>4256716
What rant, anon?

[Anonymous No.4256980]

Hoping to make the day a drawing day, to be productive and post something my followers would like, then end up feeling like im not any good and never drawing a thing because it wont be any good

[Anonymous No.4257012]

I fucking hate Marco Bucci, his style and his approach to color.

[Anonymous No.4257104]

>>4256967
>>4256980

Drawing is better than NOT drawing. Even if it's garbage, a drawing is more than zero drawings.

[Anonymous No.4257117]

>>4250298
The fuck guys? Reading moonrune anime tutorial books and copying their images is actually fun, why did no one tell me this sooner?

[Anonymous No.4257131]

>one month ago, was making great progress and really internalizing the fundies more and more with each day
>have been away from home for nearly a month for reasons beyond my control and haven't had the time or privacy to draw
>can't do shit anymore. my mind is blank and I'm back at the beginning learning basic perspective

I am murderously, dangerously frustrated. what the FUCK

[Anonymous No.4257208]

>>4256725
lmao why the fuck would you want to learn poses that don't make sense and will never be used in non-study artwork in the first place?
Just learn all the common poses like "cool standing pose", "holding a sword like a badass", "holding a gun like a badass", "running", "going super sayan", etc

[Anonymous No.4257216]

>>4256763
I could only get to 5 mins. Interested in seeing how my algorithm changed though.
>>4256850
Yeah, I know that. Normally I'm a loner, but this past week I've been super bummed about some stuff and I finally identified the feeling. So I was wondering how to go about processing it. For someone that's hardly ever felt lonely before, what would you suggest?

[Anonymous No.4257294]

>>4257117
Hook me up with some please.
I don't know which ones are worth the time, since I can't read moon.

[Anonymous No.4257310]

how do i learn design

[Anonymous No.4257338]

I just want to draw my waifu all the time and post it.
But then I want to draw my self insert and waif together. I don't want to encourage myself. I'm afraid of one day slipping up that Im obsessed with them becomes public knowledge. I'm autistic but I don't want to be known for that.

[Anonymous No.4257355]

>so fucking mad that people didn't liked my work that I canceled my gamer 10 hour session just to draw
Who's laughing now

[Anonymous No.4257360]

>>4257355
Not you because you venting here obviously

[Anonymous No.4257361]

>>4257360
>he can't multitask
Pathetic and also ngmi

[Anonymous No.4257366]

>>4257361
pyw
bet i can beat you up twink boi

[Anonymous No.4257369]

>>4257366
Your turn.

[Anonymous No.4257370]

>>4257369
Weak

[Anonymous No.4257393]

I dont know how to practice and it is killing me, I sit down with a piece of paper and I freeze.

[Anonymous No.4257736]

>>4251290

>Schopenhauer.

I bet he would bitch about women and socialism on Facebook while posting on /r9k/ about how he's depressed and can't get laid.

[Anonymous No.4257745]

>>4257393

Have you drawn before, right?

>Grab a book and read it.
>Grab one of your old drawings.
>Spot your mistakes taking into account what you just read.
>Draw it again but avoiding the mistakes you spotted.
>Try to fucking remember not to make those mistakes ever again.

Congratulations. You learned.

[Anonymous No.4257761]

>>4257294
You're not supposed to read the runes but you can fill your notebook with 30 anime girls and understand the joy of art for the first time in ages.

[Anonymous No.4257788]

I deserve to be called a retard for this, but it has NOW dawned on me that this board is actually pretty awful.

But I have nothing and no one to turn to for art-related discussion. Just this board.

[Anonymous No.4257833]

>>4257788
> it has NOW dawned on me that this board is actually pretty awful.
This has dawned on me at least 1-2 years ago, but I still come.
>But I have nothing and no one to turn to for art-related discussion. Just this board.
That's the reason I still come here.

[Anonymous No.4257836]

>>4257788

I will pick this hell hole with the occasional good advice for any other hugbox full of delusional people. At least this place makes me want to get shit done. I suppose you feel the same, but I may be wrong.

Anyways, you gotta make the best of what you have, anon. Make this board serve you. Make every available resource serve you, not the other way around.

[Anonymous No.4257887]

tfw im retarded but not the useful kind where i can shit out garbage fucking memes on twitter and plug my /beg/ tier art/kofi/patreon
I fucking hate twitter

[Anonymous No.4257965]

I'm hungry and feeling unloved and its distracting me from drawing. I don't have enough money for food.

[Anonymous No.4258068]

I'm 32, have accomplished nothing in life. Been married and divorced. Every friendship I've had has disappeared or failed. I've been diagnosed with PTSD with underlying depression and severe social anxiety by three separate psychiatric professionals.
I've been drawing since I was 6 years old and have been told that I'm talented. I want to be happy or even just content, but even with counseling, medication, cognitive behavioral therapy and mindfulness training I can't even find the strength or desire to go to the fucking grocery store.
I have above average intelligence and am well aware of my potential, however I am thus far incapable of not wanting to die every minute of every goddamn day. I feel absolutely trapped.
I draw every day. I study every day, but I haven't composed or finished a unique piece in almost a decade. I feel worthless.
I know that counseling can help, but not when every counselor I've seen has been less intelligent than myself. I know that intellectualizing topics can be a means of avoiding emotional vulnerability, but I don't believe that's what I'm doing. The people that are supposed to be counseling me are actually less intelligent than I am and I don't know how to attain any actual benefit from them. I just want the nightmares to fucking stop.
Weed, (memes, I know) had been the only thing that has ever allowed me to function in any real capacity, but it's illegal in my state. Thus, bringing it up is met with doubt and contempt. I'm in a position of knowing what helps, but am being told that I'm wrong. It's infuriating.
I vent, talk and meditate to no avail. I worry that I'm only staying alive to avoid hurting my parents and that as soon as they're gone, I'll kill myself. I want to be productive. I want to show the world what I see and what I've seen in my head but it's actually killing me.

[Anonymous No.4258070]

>>4256310
Wtf I wasnt complaining are you retarded.

[Anonymous No.4258117]

>>4258068
Holy shit, it's like looking into a mirror

[Anonymous No.4258162]

>>4258068

I suppose that you know what the fuck is wrong with your life, but don't have the motivation to even try to change it.

Well. Just start small. Think about the smallest, most meaningful, productive and precious thing you could do with your life right fucking now, and do it.

One of the biggest lies is that change has to be monumental to count. But in real life that's not true. Doing something, no matter how insignificant, is always better than not doing anything.

Also abandon the Internet for a while. Use that time for introspective thought. You say that you feel "trapped", but what is exactly that? Do you feel fear? Sadness? Anger? Impotence? Why?

Once you know exactly how you feel, let those emotions go. You are not your emotions. They don't define you. They don' dictate your life. Do the most logical thing and stop feeling bad about shit you cannot change. If it worked for anything, everyone would be doing it. But it's a fucking waste.

Focus on the things you can change. But those things have to be small.

Leave the internet for a while, leave porn, leave sugar, leave salt. Leave the short term gratifications for, say, one week, and maybe your motivation will return.

[Anonymous No.4258218]

>>4258068
Don't worry, you will fit right in here

[Anonymous No.4258424]

I bought an ipad w/ pencil thingy on credit and I'm on the verge of losing my job. God damn I'm stupid.

[Anonymous No.4258429]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I WANT TO GET BETTER AT ART BY PRACTICING BUT WHEN IM NOT DOING UNI WORK EITHER MY PARENTS WANT ME TO DO SOME BULLSHIT OR IM ON THIS SHITTY WEBSITE
FML

[Anonymous No.4258436]

Everything about how I draw is wrong. Even what I pay attention to while drawing. I end up stressing out and focusing on unimportant detail while I remain unable to resolve large and obvious issues. I get stuck in the sketch phase and end up messing around for hours without progressing towards anything finished. And I think it's made a feedback loop where I avoid trying to finish things for stress reasons, which I do by getting bogged down in nitpicking, leading me to spend hours doing thing but developing a headache and frustration.

I've always had anxiety problems. I've never been able to overcome this, though. Not even drugs or alcohol help. It's like I defensively develop ADHD just to keep from focusing on what matters, and only as long as I'm trying to draw. When it gets bad, it is physically difficult to force my eyes to linger on the drawing. Like pushing against a tide.

imsofuckedup.avi

[Anonymous No.4258441]

>>4250298
2018 was my first year taking commissions, and I made about $600 off commissions the whole year. In 2019 I made about $1000 off commissions. At this rate of growth ($400 per year) it'll be 30 years before I can quit my dayjob. Been thinking of supplementing commissions with merch like prints and pins and stuff, but I'd need a bigger following to make any amount of profit. It's frustrating, I can finally make money doing what I love but it's barely a pittance.

[Anonymous No.4258551]

I've been pretty bumbed out my how the quality of my art looks recently. I dedicated most of the year on improving my anatomy, and just started getting into lighting and color. My main source of learning was hentai and redrawing a bunch of panels with unreadable japanese how to books.
Now that the year is nearly over, I've been looking over my sketches, and i'm actually really happy with how much I improved. It's still not great, but better. Now that i'm staring to figure out art styles that inspire me so I can make actual art, not just sketches. I'm also gradually moving away from the porn drawing, even though it's what got me started in the first place. Just feel like it's holding me back from really improving, ya know?

[Anonymous No.4258578]

>>4258436
I know how you feel, I go through the same fear when drawing. What has helped me a bit is meditation. get comfy, turn out the lights and meditate in your room when it’s nice and quiet. when you’ve got your breathing down and your mind is somewhat clear, focus on what you’re wanting to draw. Instead of pushing the fear of failure down, let it pass through you.

[Anonymous No.4258579]

I started drawing a few months ago and I'm kind of dreading how long it's going to take to get past that beginner stage.
I am actually scared to death that I will be stuck at /beg/ tier forever or even worse, CWC-tier.
I enjoy drawing, but it's just kind of upsetting that it might take YEARS before my work is good enough to show to other people without being laughed at.
I try to draw at home but my family makes fun of me and that makes it so much harder to continue on, let alone improve.
I have so many ideas for cool drawings but they crumble when I put pencil to paper because the skill and experience isn't there.

I don't know.. it's an immense mountain to climb I guess.

[Anonymous No.4258599]

>>4258579
I've stopped showing my family my drawings for a similar reason. If I was practicing anatomy they would go "uh oh, anon's drawing naked people again." and I hated it. As far as they're aware, I haven't drawn in years.

[Anonymous No.4258725]

I want to draw anime yet at the same time I kind of hate to draw anime.
It could be that I'm not very good which is why I hate it.

[Anonymous No.4259046]

angsty doodles dont know what else to do about how I feel ;--;

[Anonymous No.4259052]

>>4259046
cute

[Anonymous No.4259058]

I can't commission an artist anymore because they're too busy with real life to draw for me anymore.

It was fun while it lasted but I'll miss their style. It was cute and wacky. Even though it wasn't the greatest or most appealing, I loved their style. I wish em the best.

They're the reason I've started learning how to draw to begin with.

[Anonymous No.4259086]

>>4258725
>It could be that I'm not very good which is why I hate it.
Get gud is a grind. Grind until your wrists cramp, your neck aches, and your eyes burn. Only then will you understand if you like drawing anime. If you do not then you still have increased your skill.

[Anonymous No.4259612]

Anyone see themselves in the mirror and feel like shit for a good minute?
I take care of myself, exercise, diet. Pretty sure I'm gonna stay ugly regardless.

It doesn't bother me most of the time, most of my art heroes aren't the prettiest face, but when it does it really does

[Anonymous No.4259710]

>>4250298
>wish I could be a respected SFW artist
>can't draw anything besides COOM shit

[Anonymous No.4260226]

>>4250298
Lost my job. Want to draw since I have now have some time. Know I need to job hunt before my nest egg runs out. Know that if I try to draw, even if inbetween applications, nothing good will come out of it due to the growing dread of knowing I'm jobless.

[Anonymous No.4260251]

>>4250298
Has anybody ever gotten deeply fixated with a fictional character to the point you get irritated, upset or even have a bout of sadness when you don't get to draw them because of life events? Is this a form of escapism?

[Anonymous No.4260257]

>>4260251
what the fuck lol

[Anonymous No.4260258]

>>4260251
I feel you. It probably is. It's like sleeping.

[Anonymous No.4260265]

>>4260258
So happy someone else understands, do you ever get worried about the repercussions? Hope this isn't anything like that Schizo cat person that kept drawing the same cats and progressively got chaotic.

[Anonymous No.4260266]

>>4260251
its a form of autism thats for sure

[Anonymous No.4260273]

>>4260265
Life is already in shambles anyways, coping in your own way seems to be how life has always been lived, so this is fine.

[Anonymous No.4260284]

>>4260273
Wish I didn't look into this guy, fuck me now I'm having a bad case of feels.

[Anonymous No.4260292]

>>4260284
That was made when he was institutionalized in some mental hospital and remained there and drawing those cats where his alleged coping mechanisms from his suffering.

[Anonymous No.4260393]

>>4260226
I hope everything works out for you m8.
Try job searching and fill out applications every day, while drawing inbetween.

Don't forget to relax.

[Anonymous No.4260474]

-Warning-
Long ass post coming in

I want to vent. WHY? Because I want to procrastinate. I dont know when I became obsessed with shit posting but I've gotten to that point. I dont know how many times I posted in these thread or lurked for hours. I've been finding newer ways to procrastinate then sitting down and drawing. I've been trying to find more productive ones, like finally completing a game, tv/anime series or a book. Like my endless sketches and half completed paintings I cant seem to commit to anything.
I justify that I am too lonely that I really want human interaction and to talk to someone. But that's a lie, I know it is. I dont care about people I just want to use them as a excuse to why I didnt get ___ done. I actually do have friends and family and people who are dying to talk to me and I can't bring myself to talk to them. So yes my loneliness and isolation is self-inflicted. Despite being a shitty person; I know how to pretend to be a human enough to make friends.
I know I should be a better artist by now. If I didn't procrastinate, I'd fucking be there by now. I seek out procrastination so much because I am afraid of drawing. I know right now I am not good, I know I can be better. I know its been a decade since I last had any presences as a artist and my skill have dwindles to nonexistence. The older I get the more afraid of failing I get. I am afraid of someone not liking my art, which is silly because there will always be that one asshat. I shouldn't let that stop me but I do. People used to always tell me that they see potential in me, I just wish I can see it.
I just hope by finally getting this all out, then maybe I can hear myself. Because in the end it is really only I can fix myself. And I think a good start is to stop procrastinating, to stop lurking and spending hours on the internet. Maybe to sit down and allow myself to draw no matter how ugly it comes out.

TLTR: I am going to try to stop procrastinating and to finally draw.

[Anonymous No.4260478]

>Spent 3 days on painting
>Not one like on Instagram
>Post on local sales page on Facebook
>Immediate sale
>So that's who I appeal to.

The cherry on top? Guess what I do for a living. Social Media. I can shill my company's shit just fine but into Instagram for my own stuff.

[Anonymous No.4260484]

everything i do feels like shit, then i end up hating myself then i dont draw how do i break this cycle?

[Anonymous No.4260485]

>Got a job to illustrate a children's book
>client wants me to draw 30 full color pages for $600
>never done a professional job of this scale
>too scared to even pick up my pen
>signed a contract so I have to draw it now

What the fuck is wrong with me?

[Anonymous No.4260490]

>>4260485
>$20 for one illustration
jesus christ

[Anonymous No.4260496]

>22, improve at a sluggish pace
>meanwhile 15 year olds are like lightning at improvement
How can I become a better artist faster?

[Anonymous No.4260505]

>>4260496
15 year olds have much more time to spend drawing than you so you're going to have to use your adult brain advantage.

1. Be more purposeful with your practice. Don't doodle, waste time or meander. Pick something and study it until you get better at it then move on to the next thing.
2. Have clear, measurable goals of what you want your art to be and always keep them in sight. If you want to be a naked anime girl artist don't waste time learning how to draw camels.
3. Don't waste time on social media and shit like that. Spend your practice time on practice.

[Anonymous No.4260507]

>>4260490
Depends on the illustration I guess? I've read books to my 8 year old that looked like they were illustrated by other 8 year olds.

[Anonymous No.4260510]

>>4260484
Start enjoying the process. Find joy in drawing, not in the final result. It gets better as you get better.

[Anonymous No.4260513]

>>4260507
I want to do a good job. If it's going to have my name on it, I want it to look like the fucking Klaus art book. It just sucks that my pride is being tested by this situation and I walked myself into it
>client has never published a book before and clearly doesn't know how it works
>already illustrated a book for them and it will never see the light of day because after all the work I did, they decided it wasn't marketable as a first book
>another artist already drew half of the book but quit for reasons unbeknownst to me so now I have to redraw everything

[Anonymous No.4260526]

>>4252491
Cheat by using the posterize filter on your ref

[Anonymous No.4260535]

>>4255003
It's the opposite for me. I didn't update my Wacom drivers for like 3 years and it was so buggy and crashy, but I finally did an update a few days ago and now everything runs smooth like a butter. I can now even freely open and close my drawing programs without needing to restart my drivers.

[Anonymous No.4260540]

I fluctuate wildly between feeling like a complete beg shit and a golden magical god and Im sure I'm not either of these things but the bipolar swings in confidence kill me for just weeks at a time.

[Anonymous No.4260544]

>>4256505
Develop and mature your taste, find artists and images that resonates with you, technically or emotionally. Don't settle for something mediocre, find something that really lights up the passion inside of you. Your work right now screams the fact that you're still mindless and passive in the consumption of art.
Studies are useful, but you still need a compass to give you higher focus and purpose to your practice, and that's where your inspirations come in.
If you want somewhere to start, I'd recommend Yoh Yoshinari sketchbooks since you seem to like cartoony stuff. But of course don't drop your studies, you can visit the artbook threads and sticky for that.

[Anonymous No.4260556]

I gave up on another drawing today.
There's so many conflicting thoughts in my head, and they cloud the ability to focus and think optimistically on a drawing, regardless whether it's a study or from imagination.
There are so many mental barriers I cannot break through.
I'm getting old, and I can't achieve anything close to mediocrity.
I need help.

[Anonymous No.4260607]

>tfw can't draw without ctrl-zing hundreds of times
I still am able to get stuff done, but this is a serious time waster. I sometimes wonder if a tablet with a screen would still have this issue.

[Anonymous No.4260749]

I just had a serious red pill realization about art.
it doesn't matter how much you know about anatomy, lighting or form or whatever.
Beyond /beg/ level (basically being able to make something human shaped enough for normies to not notice), it's all about APPEAL.
You have to take the skills you do have and create something appealing with your limitations. Nobody gives a shit about your anatomy deconstruction or value studies. People want something that looks appealing, quirky, whatever. And they have low standards. You have very successful artists with very basic styles that manage to use their basic skills to make appealing pictures.

And here I am memorizing every bone and muscle in the human body like a retard. Because every time I try to make a non-study piece, I see something technical that could be improved. But the truth is, nobody but me cares. about any of that CRAP. I've spent 5 years on trying to become a human printer + CAD software. it doesn't fucking matter, just come up with a cool idea for a picture, throw something together in poser, and use that as reference.
i have wasted my time

[Anonymous No.4260782]

>ugly_man

PLEASE explain why you draw this

[Anonymous No.4260807]

>>4260782
Self insert

[Anonymous No.4260826]

>>4259710
>want to be successful sfw artist because no longer find nsfw appealing
>have p*ny porn from 5 years ago under my name

[Anonymous No.4261164]

>>4260607
Draw with pen until you break this habit.

[Anonymous No.4261297]

>write something
>become busy, procrastinate, forget, whatever every other general excuse
>remember what I wrote vaguely and hate it
>come back and read it again, hate it
>edit, re-write, and add to what's written
>repeat this entire process over and over.
>still stuck on chapter one (1)

I'm so dumb. I'm so stupid. Nothing I'm writing is even going to be any good anyway. Even if it was no one would read it. Why do I waste my time. I shit and fart and pee my pants.

[Anonymous No.4261343]

>check out /ic/ out of curiosity
>every other topic is just anons spamming 'fundies pyw fundies ngmi fundies pyw beg ngmi beg beg pyw ngmi' and a lot of shittalking popular artists or making fun of random art found on random social media pages
>haven't really seen that much impressive or inspiring stuff in the threads where people are encouraged post their art
feels like a bizzaro deviantart clique where any moderate artist just rips other artists with a lot of vitriol for some reason and a curiously large amount of people griping about needing to draw more but never actually doing it. the odd useful refs, pdfs and vids are nice though.

[Anonymous No.4261356]

>>4261343
Every board is generally just a bizarro version of what they're meant to be about.

[Anonymous No.4261358]

>>4260607
Same problem.
Pretty much every line I make I ctrl-z atleast 5 times before making a somewhat acceptable one.
I have ctrl-z bound to one of my pen buttons so it became very easy to just press ctrl-z after every line even if it wasn't that bad.
Unbound the shortcut a week ago and I'm starting to get rid of that habit.

[Anonymous No.4261363]

>>4261356
true

[Anonymous No.4261367]

>>4261363
Thanks for agreeing with me. :)

[Anonymous No.4261392]

I gave up on my delusions of becoming an artist many years ago, having gone into a different field completely for work and keeping art as a hobby. After all of these years, I finally receive a full-time, salary offer for what would have been my dream position years ago (long story short a client had brought a friend along to a dinner and we got on the subject of art). Here are the problems.

1. I'm not about to fuck over a client by leaving my current job.
1.5. And I absolutely will not be responsible for a client's falling out with a friend.
2. I actually do love my job now. It pays well, lots of perks. I'm respected in my company and I have a lot of free time.
3. I don't even really know if I want to do art as a career after becoming friends with some people in the industry. On the outside, it looks so cool but my friends have confessed a lot of things to me and i just seems like a nightmare.

At the same time, part of me really wants to take the plunge.

[Anonymous No.4261405]

INSTEAD OF DRAWING I'VE BEEN VECTORIZING SHITTY JPG ARTIFACTED LOGOS FOR CLIENTS WHO LOST ALL OF THE PDF FILES OF THEIR BRANDING THEY NEED TO GET MORE PROMOTIONAL MATERIAL PRINTED

I HATE THIS FUCKING JOB

[Anonymous No.4261414]

>>4261405
Wouldn't it have been easier to just recreate the brand by tracing over said shitty jpg pictures, and then printing them?

[Anonymous No.4261418]

>>4261392
Reals vs feels bro, but maybe you can make a pros and cons chart <:)

[Anonymous No.4261470]

I really can't help but feel like my art friends are all looking down on me and it's starting to strain my friendships

[Anonymous No.4261474]

>>4261470
what makes you say that, anon?

[Anonymous No.4261504]

>>4261474
I'm the least skilled of all of them, so no matter what I do it's like they're constantly looking down

It's like I'm the dumb bitch they met years ago when we all sucked and now they've improved but I haven't, so they only keep me around cause we've known each other for a while

[Anonymous No.4261506]

>>4261504
Use that frustration to improve and show them you're equal to them if not better,

[Anonymous No.4261509]

>>4261504
Unless you've got shit to back that up it really just sounds like you're projecting your insecurities on to them.

[Anonymous No.4261520]

>>4261504
what >>4261509 says is right. You may just be looking too deep into this. If they're actually directly telling you mean words though, you can always just find new friends. There is no reason to stress.

[Anonymous No.4261534]

>>4261414
I'm drawing over jpg logos with vectors in illustrator. That's my job, because retarded small businesses always lose their branding files, and send shitty jpg pictures. and my boss decided it's faster to make me draw them again rather than wait for the retards to find the files.

[Anonymous No.4261540]

>>4261534
Based then. Chill out man, the day goes on as it goes. Whether you were doing this or not you'd still be working. :)

[Anonymous No.4261541]

>>4261534
Oh hey I used to do that kind of work! It's absolute hell, especially when they have shit designs. Godspeed, Anon.

[Anonymous No.4261549]

>>4261509
>>4261520
I think you two are right, actually. None of them are mean or anything, it's just a gut feeling so it's most likely wrong, now that I think about it. I'll try not to let my insecurities get in the way of our friendship. Thank you anons

[Anonymous No.4261550]

>>4261549
No problem, bro. Just remember to take it easy.

[Anonymous No.4261551]

>>4261549
>implying those 2 anons aren't your friends fucking with you

[Anonymous No.4261555]

>>4261551
Lmao what the fuck are you doing to this poor guy

[Anonymous No.4261561]

>>4261555

[Anonymous No.4261568]

>>4251437
I mostly do fashion illustrations and I hate how limited many of the poses are because I need the clothes to look good and easy to understand as possible

[Anonymous No.4261651]

>>4261540
>>4261541
the worst part is when they have some weird looking free font as part of their brand identity, and you have to hunt it down from those shitty free font websites.

[Anonymous No.4261746]

>Wish I could make bank by drawing degen porn
>Too much of a poorfag to afford anything but pencils

[Anonymous No.4261788]

I'm going crazy because my construction is absolute dogshit but my ability to render digitally is much better so I can get by alright with a terrible sketch once I get to the painting stage but I just want to be able to observe something and accurately depict its form using only lines aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh

[Anonymous No.4261795]

I was supposed to draw Xmas gifts for the family today, but I wasted a whole day drawing smut instead

I only have 2d left before I have to travel

[Anonymous No.4261889]

I'm starting to think I spend too much time studying and watching lectures and not enough time actually drawing. So I'm trying to draw more shit in general.

It just sucks because It still feels like I have no fucking clue what I'm doing and I get frustrated so damn quickly and want to give up.

[Anonymous No.4261894]

>>4261788
i feel your pain

my construction and sketches are 1000 times better than my shaky ass amatur oddly weighted lineart and i'm barely even patient enough to color in the lines, much less render each clothes fold and hair strand

[Anonymous No.4261908]

>see very amateurish artwork get 10000000 times more popular than something youve worked on for over a week
i just dont get what people like, its so frustrating, dont want to be tied to whining either. and its not just elsewhere, even here on 4chan, the person who just makes a crappy mspaint doodle and posts "haha haven't drawn in a few years" gets 10 (you)s. i get its probably more interesting to see, there are two extremes in skill and people aren't going to be interested in seeing the objectively better but still average. and im STILL mad

[Anonymous No.4261956]

>>4261549
Friendships can start based on something trivial like you both like to draw, but there is so much more to them than that. What you lack in art, perhaps you make up in...heart.

[Anonymous No.4262263]

Fuck this inferority complex. Fuck depression. It feels like im always going nowhere, and the fact that college seems to be barely helping. Where fuck am i suppose to go, what the fuck am i suppose to do. Infuriating.

[Anonymous No.4262280]

>can only run SAI on my computer
>at least it has a nice blending brush
>all my blending comes out streaky and chunky
>realize ive been using Brush instead of Water Color for the past month

Not even really upset just bemused. Idk what I was thinking

[Anonymous No.4262315]

>>4260496
Unironically, draw more.

When I was 15 I drew more than ever in my life, because that's all I would ever do when I wasn't asleep, playing games or at school(though I even drew through most my classes)

I'm 22 now, and the biggest gains I have ever had in my work were from that age. I was acting like a human printer. And not cause I felt like I had to, I just really liked to draw.

Now I tend to spend longer on individual pieces, and while the work is tons better compared to one off sketches from that age I'm finding my progress to be stagnanting a lot more in comparison. ;--;

[Anonymous No.4262336]

>>4262315
>Unironically, draw more.

It's a meme but it's really true. But I also think that you need at least one thing you have the passion for that you want to draw. At least for me, I'm the DM of a pen&paper campaign and draw everyday to realize the ideas I have for the campaign on paper. I've drawn since I was a child, but this is the most fun at drawing I've ever had.

[Anonymous No.4262341]

>>4262280
Play with the settings of that brush. They're actually pretty versatile

[Anonymous No.4262538]

>>4260782
Because I think its cool
Also this>>4260807

[Anonymous No.4262645]

>try to write something serious, cool, professional, interesting, etc
>takes me a week on and off of brainstorming, revising, and editing to make a single rough draft of only three pages.
>be me last night
>get a little drunk and horny
>write about humans gay raping aliens into submission
>power write a six page rough draft in half an hour before I just coom, shower, and sleep.
>look through it today in curiosity and disgust
>no typos, just needs a few sentences changed to be a little less dry here and there.

FML

[Anonymous No.4262930]

>>4250298
I realize I end up wasting too much time in this place and lurking this board even though I don't really draw anymore.

Don't have the time nor motivation to do so these days. Mostly blame my job and the fact that I have to work like 5-6 days a fucking week.
Haven't drawn anything of note in almost half a year.
What a pathetic existence I lead.

[Anonymous No.4263064]

>>4262930
Draw something right now, anon.

[Anonymous No.4263393]

>>4250425
Give yourself granular goals that escalate. Once you have some momentum it gets easier.

[Anonymous No.4263396]

>>4251196
Bruh, just "Marvel Method" that shit.

[Anonymous No.4263403]

>>4254585
Make friends with them. Better artists are allies and a resource.

[Anonymous No.4263404]

>>4255333
Wear an Auto-Blow

[Anonymous No.4263415]

>Drawing will never fill the void of no gf
With each page I fill with studies I get more depressed

[Anonymous No.4263535]

>>4263415
I’m so happy that I completely stopped caring about relationships and women and just devoted my entire life to drawing.

[Anonymous No.4263640]

>>4258068
you'd accept a professionals diagnosis but not their advice. It doesn't matter if your intelligence is higher than there's, they have more years in the field, just like you wouldn't out music a musician just because you're smarter than them. What they suggested doing is probably the same end result when you finally said enough is enough.

[Anonymous No.4264063]

>be so overcome with "i need to draw something, i HAVE to there's so much creative energy in my brain rn i have so many ideas"
>know that i'll be disappointed with the end result
>don't want to go draw and let myself down so i avoid doing it but i can't fully enjoy the other stuff i'm doing because i'm too distracted thinking about stuff i want to try drawing
>finally pick up pencil
>shit on paper
>want to die
>repeat

[Anonymous No.4264107]

My fan is blowing cool air onto me and my gf's arm is against my back and feels so warm while she sleeps. I don't know if I've ever been more comfortable in my life right now. I feel like I could do anything.

[Anonymous No.4264108]

>>4264063
Force yourself to just do some sketches, then next time build up those sketches some, then build those up, repeat.

[Anonymous No.4264429]

Stopped drawing about a decade ago. I was frustrated with myself, because I wanted to achieve the perfection I couldn't. It was never good enough.
So I started drawing again, because it was always a passion of mine, eventhough melancholy held me back for years.
And now I'm frustrated that I wasted those years by sulking and not improving my drawing skills. The cycle doesn't end.

[Anonymous No.4264462]

>>4263064
I literally just got off work you retard.
Im going to bed, so I can wake up and do it again in a few more hours.

[Anonymous No.4265064]

I have lots of late commissions to finish while in a bad depressed slump neeting at my parents' house and hating the fuck out of my art style at the moment, the only therapist and psychiatrist I can go to are umcompassionate assholes

Please convince me I don't deserve to die right now

[Anonymous No.4265077]

>>4265064
They liked the style enough to commission you