/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4239328]

And now Twitter.

[Anonymous No.4239329]

>>4239328
S

[Anonymous No.4239335]

>>4239328
If any time was a good time to publicly freak out about something though, this would be the time. The bigger a stink you make about this to artists, the more afraid and annoyed they will get. Scare enough people off and they will be forced to flourish elsewhere.
Twitter was shit anyways and now this may finally force people to abandon it for greener pastures. Thank god that Jack finally had the nerve to off his company and do us all the favor of being free.

[Anonymous No.4239339]

>>4239328
It's because it has a app on Googleplay/Apple store. If it has a app it'll eventually remove porn.

[Anonymous No.4239340]

>>4239328

What is that garbage site good for, if it's not for shilling your personal website/ Patreon?

[Anonymous No.4239348]

>>4239328
I like how they made sure to use as many broad and vague terms as possible.

[Anonymous No.4239367]

This sounds vague as fuck.

[Anonymous No.4239370]

>>4239328
>tfw no archive.
>tfw artist you follow only uses Twitter.

[Anonymous No.4239381]

The indian Twitter admins basically can ban you if you bully their thot waifu.

[Anonymous No.4239385]

>>4239328
so it's basically like tumblr aka no nsfw

[Anonymous No.4239390]

Looks like newgrounds will actually get a lot of trafic. Unless people will move to Instagram for whatever reason.

[Anonymous No.4239391]

>>4239328
It's fine. They're only talking about putting it as your profile image and header images, which makes sense since it's easier for kids to see stuff like that.

[Anonymous No.4239396]

>>4239390
Instagram doesn't allow porn, does it?

[Anonymous No.4239400]

>>4239391
Yep. No way Jack Dorsey would take away porn on Twitter. He's said it publicly, he doesn't mind the lewds at all and he doesn't want it to go away. Just wants people to label themselves as NSFW.

[Anonymous No.4239402]

>>4239391
Read the op again

>Graphic violence, adult content, and hateful imagery
>accounts dedicated to posting sensitive media – your account may be permanently suspended if the majority of your activity on Twitter is sharing sensitive media.

[Anonymous No.4239404]

>>4239390
NewGrounds will forever be known as that meme site with early flash cartoons. Few artist girls will go there and it is they who subliminally decide where the populace resides.

[Anonymous No.4239407]

>>4239402
Until Twitter starts gassing NSFW artists, I'm going to assume that >>4239328 is just bad wording.

[Anonymous No.4239412]

>>4239404
True. NG should secretly start a new social media platform (like Pillowfort) and then make the news as "NewGrounds acquired [New Social Media]", so they can both attract new members and be seen as the saviors of the world.

[Anonymous No.4239428]

>>4239328
>>4239335
>what happened to tumblr won't happen to twitter they said
Who are they kidding, everyone knows twitter's going to go down the same road.

[Anonymous No.4239469]

>>4239328
Although i don't go on twitter for nsfw shit. They are painfully unaware that hornyposting is the backbone of their site. And getting rid of it will do some serious damage, just like it nuked tumblr from existance.

[Anonymous No.4239471]

>>4239412
This is a good idea

[Anonymous No.4239478]

>>4239469
I ""depend"" on Twitter, but would gladly welcome them shooting themselves on the foot just to see this empire of feces crumbling.

Where would people go to?
I don't know, but this is the fun of it!

[Anonymous No.4239479]

>>4239328
No porn on Twitter then? But then it says live video and profile images get struck. Very vague and unspecific wording.

[Anonymous No.4239483]

You guys are freaking out over nothing. This is less to do with lewd sensitive and more to do with literal fucking gore videos sensitive. Art absolutely isn't at a risk. I don't think even thot Twitter is at a risk unless they've got their hoohas as their icons.

[Anonymous No.4239490]

Op posted Twitter rules completely taken out of context. They have always been there.

[Anonymous No.4239509]

>>4239328
And nothing of value was (will be) lost.

[Anonymous No.4239514]

>>4239509
>t. kodyboy555 from deviantart

[Anonymous No.4239519]

>>4239514
Jokes on you, I don't have accounts anywhere.

[Anonymous No.4239520]

>>4239519
Didn't expect anything else from ngmi

[Anonymous No.4239525]

>>4239407
Twitter does whatever it wants and doesn't care about their own policies. Trying to get support from them without knowing someone that works there is literally talking to a stone wall.

[Anonymous No.4239527]

>>4239520
Well yeah, drawing is just a hobby of mine, I don't need to "make it" with it.

[Anonymous No.4239533]

I read over the updated ToS

Nsfw artists are fine. Things such as images depicting sexual abusement can be removed tho like usual

[Anonymous No.4239620]

>>4239402
Jack and his head of Trust and Safety said porn is ok on Twitter when they went on the Joe Rogan Podcast.
This rule is mostly targeting profile pics.
and sending UNSOLICITED nude images to people.

[Anonymous No.4239629]

>>4239620
It doesn't matter what Jack said on JRE. This is a legal text, people spent a lot of time wording it. If it meant what you claim it means, it would have said so, but it doesn't.

[Anonymous No.4239672]

>>4239620
>CEO said
So did Patreon CEO, about freedom of speech or something some month ago. Nowadays spoken word means nothing. Especially of CEOs.

[Anonymous No.4239683]

>>4239527

Chad hobbyist.

[Anonymous No.4239695]

>>4239478
same

[Anonymous No.4239732]

Tumblr is dead, Twitter and Patreon will follow.
Pixiv probably will be the best alternative and that's sad.

[Anonymous No.4239782]

>>4239404
They could do themselves a big favor if they could fix their web layout that's been stuck in 2000.

[Anonymous No.4239914]

>>4239732
why patreon?

[Anonymous No.4239916]

>>4239391
>>4239479
well this is all probably related to the same shit as yt, on one hand they will force people to tag their profile as NSFW thus preventing them from gaining any traffic in search, and on the other to filter out "adult content that is directly or indirectly targeted at zoomers" like drawn porn or scuffed loli

[Anonymous No.4239935]

>>4239404
their art portal is confusing and ugly and i hate it. but i thought the same about tumblr and people loved it, so what do i know.

[Anonymous No.4240022]

>>4239390
People said the same thing when Tumblr killed itself, newgrounds will never be a place where all artists migrate to

[Anonymous No.4240085]

>>4239914
Because, I think, it is only a matter of time for Paypal to stop dealing with Patreon for NSFW content. The Pornhub treatment will go. And when that will happen, Patreon surely won't be on the NSFW artists side.

[Anonymous No.4240136]

wow i can't believe a social media site, a site that was never intended for hosting art, a site that has an app on the app store and is used by minors, would want to get rid of sensitive content. the internet is dying!!!1! we artists have nowhere to go!!!!!11!

[Anonymous No.4240144]

>>4240136
it should really be for networking instead of showing off art. draw promiscuous but safe ladies, then point people towards your gallery hosted on weebly or whatever.

[Anonymous No.4240163]

>>4239328
i like how all these platforms ban anime tittie but don't ban nazis. so sensitive

[Anonymous No.4240564]

>>4239328
what's going on with pawoo? is it still good?

[Anonymous No.4240616]

>>4240136
>I don't understand the issue but I'm gonna be smug about it anyways
Ok

[Anonymous No.4240665]

>>4240144
>it should really be for networking
that is quite literally what it's for
>>4240616
ok porn addict

[Anonymous No.4240675]

>>4240665
>boobies make him scream
OK, 'murrican.

[Anonymous No.4240684]

I hate twitter so much, you can shit on tumblr as much as you want and I could understand that, but it was the best platform for me to use as a personal gallery where I can freely customize my page. I fucking hate twitter on a personal agenda, it's a fucking strip mall instead of a gallery for god's sake.

[Anonymous No.4240717]

>>4240684
Nobody actually likes Twitter for showing your art, but it's where all the normies live.

[Anonymous No.4240751]

>>4240717
This. It gets the most exposure on there.

[Anonymous No.4240786]

>>4240717

>where all the normies live.

Kek. Only SJW whales and glitterboys use Twitter. All normies are on Faceberg, don't be retarded.

But I can understand why you don't consider FB an alternative. Normies don't get a hard-on for hideous smut.

[Anonymous No.4240801]

>>4239391
keep telling yourself that friend...

[Anonymous No.4240807]

>>4239340
Browbeating people with far left politics and nothing else. It's /pol/ for the far left but people take it seriously which is even worse.

[Anonymous No.4240816]

>>4239478
>empire
Twitter is one of the smaller social media outlets, why people are so obsessed with it and allow it to have so much power is fucking mystifying and infuriating.

[Anonymous No.4240827]

>>4239328
Good. Kids are using Twitter. Porn should only be allowed on dedicated porn-sites.

Trump 2020, faggots

[Anonymous No.4240829]

>>4240786
This. All the "networking" and "exposure" of twitter has got me exactly one commission. Meanwhile facebook gets me consistent pod sales.

[Anonymous No.4240835]

>>4240829
what's pod sales?

[Anonymous No.4240842]

>>4240717
Isn't it something like only 14% of adults use Twitter? Christ, you'd have better visibility on TikTok or MySpace.

[Anonymous No.4240844]

>>4240835
Print on demand.

[Anonymous No.4240849]

>>4240842
Twatter gets less traffic than fucking linkedin. But it's the one platform where you can get people fired because your gashing wound is itchier than usual and you took offense to the way they look in their profile picture.

[Anonymous No.4240876]

>>4240849

Twitter needs to die. In fact, let's get /pol/ to pressure Twitter and make them ban all porn. Let's kill the beast kicking it hard in the genitals.

[Anonymous No.4240884]

>>4240816
Enumerate bigger social networks, please.

[Anonymous No.4240925]

>>4240884
Here ya go. Be aware that TikTok has grown massively and is, as of right now, one of the top 3 social media platforms.

TikTok has a decent artist presence and is actually an effective platform for short animations or drawing process shorts. I fucking hate the platform and the userbase, but if you're simply grinding for a check then it could be of use.

[Anonymous No.4240941]

>>4240786
Everyone left Facebook because of the privacy shit. Normies probably have no idea what the issue is, but they left too. Yeah, the pure user number is large, but that includes dead/inactive accounts, people who just have it for Instagram business, and unironic boomers.
Now, does a platform whose only active userbase consists of people sbove the age of 60 sound good for nu-art? I didn't think so.

[Anonymous No.4240945]

>>4240925
How are tumblr and fucking google+ still up there

[Anonymous No.4240966]

>>4240945
Tumblr killing porn ruined the mass appeal, but most of tumblr's core appeal or use was blogging and fandom shit which doesn't require porn to function.
I'll assume G+ only survives because of newsgroups or other obscure shit, but being bigger than reddit (at the time) is impressive and curious.

[Anonymous No.4240969]

>>4240966
Everyone that had a Google or YouTube account had a Google+ account, artificially inflating user numbers.
Of course, none of this matters because Google+ is dead.

[Anonymous No.4240979]

Twitter without porn is not twitter.

[Anonymous No.4240982]

>>4239339
Why do sites have to comply with this if it was OK since forever? Reminds me of YouTube, it worked just fine without all the copyright bullshit just a few years ago in 2012. Why would they suddenly have to agree to remove content and make stricter policies? Isn't it humans making these decisions, humans who know it's dumb?

[Anonymous No.4240984]

>>4240884
3 niggerwatts

[Anonymous No.4240991]

>>4240982
>>4239400
Oh wait so I was right, there's humans reviewing this stuff. If he's said he's OK with porn then this is probably just to fight profile pics which makes sense, and perhaps accounts which post especially bad stuff (not art related)

[Anonymous No.4241009]

>>4240991
Keep in mind that what corps say they're okay with and what they're legally allowed to do are two massively different things. Jack may be OK with porn accounts but that doesn't negate the fact that if he got a hair up his ass he could nuke your shit from high heaven and he'd be totally in the clear to do so and it'd be your own fault since the ToS warned you in advance

[Anonymous No.4241049]

>>4240941
>does a platform whose only active userbase consists of people sbove the age of 60

>Source: My ass.

But other than that, you're right. Only the cancer of the Twitter userbase would be interested in whatever horrendous porn you all make for a living.

[Anonymous No.4241902]

>>4240925
NIGGER you want me to use Weibo, Google+, TikTok, WeChat or YouTube to post art?

AAAAAHHHHHHH WHY ARE YOU ALLOWED TO POST?

[Anonymous No.4241927]

>>4241902
The anon asked for bigger social networks, and I provided a graph. I'm sorry that I forgot to take into account that some random lazy cunt who can't expend the 3 calories required to do the exact same Google search I did would come and get their g-string in a knot.
Actually fucking kill yourself, you single-celled subhuman cumguzzler

[Anonymous No.4242112]

>>4241927
>The anon asked for bigger social networks
Yes, and the subject of the thread is art-posting platforms.
If you're gonna bring a bunch of unrelated garbage only used by grannies to the table, there is no need to bother.
If you yourself value understanding the context of a discussion, ta-dah, you failed big time.

[Anonymous No.4242669]

>>4241902

Film a time-lapse of you drawing anon, then overlay some catchy tunes. Easy.

[Anonymous No.4242920]

>>4241927
Art posting ain’t even good on youtube, for you to be successful with it you need to do some story time bull shit or pander to some kids. Also what in the fuck is weibo and wechat?

[Anonymous No.4243314]

>>4240163
Yeah, it's truly bizarre. It's scary this happens at the same time as Imgur requires registration to view NSFW albums and Pornhub and Spankbang (and other porn sites?) trying their hardest to stop people from ripping videos, and Google trying to remove piracy sites from results, and Youtube changing its terms, and Reddit also cracking down on "pseudo-JB" content (though not yet beyond a few subs), and the ages of consent being raised with close-in-age exceptions being added, and films being censored more if they contain nudity, and games being censored more if they contain sexy female characters, and even paintings being pulled from galleries for being too sexual or fetishistic or such, and #MeToo gaining more traction again (but this time explicitly under the guise of "don't tell the cops, they won't believe you" leading to vigilantism and unfair "trials"), and the laws of the US being imposed on other countries especially regarding sexuality, and even fucking drawings becoming censored and attempted to be made illegal if they look young, and so on and so on...

I don't see how anyone can look at the world and internet in particular and think it's going to be fine. It won't be fine. We're losing the internet, and the Nazis aren't helping even though paradoxically they're now the only ones who claim to stand for freedom of expression (but surprise, they don't actually stand for it which is why they're not actually doing anything). But, now even the FREEDOM PARTIES in the world are against sexual freedom, and not just in the "SEXUAL EXPLOITATION" way that they used to occasionally argue but literally openly being against sexual expression even in drawings. It's fucking insane.

[Anonymous No.4243891]

>>4242669
not, him. but... dude. no.
i draw naked lolis.

[Anonymous No.4243895]

>>4243891
Sucks to suck

[Anonymous No.4244705]

>>4243891
Technically you CAN upload that on Youtube, just have to set as age-restricted and not have sexy title, tags or description. But, I'll agree, it's not a good idea. If all videos are that and one is taken down, there's a possibility all will and it takes only three within a year to get banned. The algorithm detects if you make a new account to circumvent, you'll get automatically banned again. There's also backlash, you're guaranteed some now that "anti-pedo activism" is a "genre" of videos as a source of quick dirty income. Say one word in support of loli artists and you're torn to shreds, even more so if you mention the age of consent isn't universally 18. It's now being raised to 18 in several countries so they can cite these movements, "debunking" your argument in the public eye.

We are under threat. I stopped drawing lolis in public already in 2011 because I saw this was coming, with few exceptions, and then I add big breasts afterwards in every case except in anonymity. It's a shame and terror but soon we will go to prison for such drawings, even if the laws remain that it is legal... I fear even the laws will change, already changed in some countries. They are also retroactively enforced, so you can never be safe if you ever drew a single loli. This is why it terrifies me so much.

There is nobody defending our right to artistic expression, not even ourselves. In my country even the one political party that wanted to lower the age of consent now is trying to raise it, just like every other party! Their leader used to be in strong defence of all artistic freedom too, he got even death threats and was disowned, but now he wants to suppress artists and still remains disowned because that is how strong the stigma is...

We have no hope. This isn't just going to affect loli artists, certainly not only "pedophiles". It will soon affect most. Legal adult porn with ageplay is already being suppressed, how long do you think it will be until all art is?

[Anonymous No.4244983]

>>4244705
Their end goal will seriously to just ban art pornography altogether

[Anonymous No.4245003]

>>4244705

I mean, the logical thing will be to ban fantasy violence, such as movies and games, but people are surprisingly OK with it, despite there being more "evidence" (I.e: cherry picked cases) that fantasy violence leads to real life violence.

If they ban pornography altogether, it will be a shining new market for people trafficking. But knowing (((who))) makes the laws, they will probably want to go for it.

>Cannot connect to reCaptcha, please try again later.

wew.

[Anonymous No.4245036]

>>4245003
How is it that /pol/tards believe that Jews are simultaneously degenerates trying to kill western culture by pushing for social justice, LGBT, and crypto pedo advocacy and also hyper-puritans trying to kill all forms of porn, free expression, and art.
They're either puritan's or degenerates. Make up your fucking mind you loony cunt

[Anonymous No.4245042]

>>4245036

Funny how I never mentioned anything about "Muh degeneracy" or any /pol/ newspeak about "Muh wester culture" and I'm automatically a /pol/tard.

Maybe you're the loony cunt here, seeing /pol/tards everywhere...

[Anonymous No.4245056]

>>4245042
Then please tell me anon, who is (((they))), and in exactly which not western country are (((they))) hypothetically going to ban porn and fantasy violence.
>I'm automatically a /pol/tard
If it quacks like a duck, it's a duck. What brand of retard coud you possibly be besides /pol/cuck to be unironically tossing around echoes and being worried that your ReCaptcha bugging out is something to be spooked over.

[Anonymous No.4245167]

>>4245036
What sort of double digit IQ does it require to think that some party seeking maximal profit and control from a political situation wouldn't play both sides?

If you both ban it and sell it, you can legally kill off all competition, set the prices however you want and shape the market to fit your doctrine.
Weimar Germans used to believe that fucking the freshly slit throat of a duck was the greatest sexual pleasure because it checked so many paraphilia boxes including necrophilia and zoophilia.

[Anonymous No.4245176]

>>4245036
>They're either puritan's or degenerates

Mongols used to launch carcasses into enemy fortification during siege situations to spread disease and discord.

Let's assume /pol/ is correct, (((wealthybankers))) want to take down the white race by destroying them from within, they do this by sowing "bad things" into the population and make them weak and break down on their own, IF they know what they are doing is "bad", why the fuck would they apply those same values upon themselves?

Just because someone is using something as a weapon doesn't mean they have to also consume that "weapon" themselves as well. This is not exactly a huge leap of logic here.

[Anonymous No.4245210]

>>4245167
>set the prices however you want and shape the market to fit your doctrine.
If you create a black market and then fuel that market with supply and by encouraging whatever buyers exist then inevitably the market will figure out how to make their own supply and you will have to deal with illegal black market sellers (read: violent gangs) and will have to deal with whatever kind of buyers you've created. Banning loli will just encourage the black market to create CP instead, so I don't understand what is gained.
I suppose if the goal is to "make non Jewish people more depraved" then turning loli lovers into kiddy diddlers would be a minor change to that affect, but that would only turn so many lolicons into pedos and maintaining that black market would only be feasible so long as dominant powers within their cabal approve.
>>4245176
>why the fuck would they apply those same values upon themselves?
Collateral damage. The FBI pushing crack into black hoods damaged nearby white neighborhoods and then that fueled the opioid epidemic which is currently decimating poor white neighborhoods. Unless their method is fool proof there will inevitably be collateral damage.
>sowing "bad things" into the population
Right now it is incredibly easy for someone to get into loli or photorealistic 3dcg. If your goal is to encourage bad behavior why would you ban the bad thing and then possibly supply the black market when you can just fuel the existing market

[Anonymous No.4245217]

>>4245056
>just give the reasons
How about a scientific experiment. Gas (or use any other way remove them non-Israeli public life) the Jews and check the results.
Why not do this? I see no rational reason not to.

[Anonymous No.4245220]

>>4245217
Extreme actions require extreme justifications

[Anonymous No.4245274]

>>4245210
>If your goal is to encourage bad behavior why would you ban the bad thing and then possibly supply the black market when you can just fuel the existing market

So you can exert control over the extent of the bad thing that's being created while making profit on the side. That way you get to control the pipeline of ideas so it only pours out the flavor of bad things you want while making a profit out of it.

For a more public and recent non-/pol/ example, the Chinese are already doing this. They frequently censors any materials that contain values they dislike (e.g. general violence, sex, anti-government/communism/socialism etc.) claiming to "safeguard" the minds of their people, on the other hand they let blood and sex flow freely when it comes to depicting Japanese soldiers' atrocities on their state-sponsored TV shows (keyword: 抗日神劇) as a means of fueling the anti-Japanese sentiment.

[Anonymous No.4245298]

>>4239328
why do you care about a degenerate company's policy?

use it to fight moloch's minions and spread the good word

[Anonymous No.4245321]

>>4245274
>So you can exert control over the extent of the bad thing that's being created while making profit on the side. That way you get to control the pipeline of ideas so it only pours out the flavor of bad things you want while making a profit out of it.
But it's a black market. It will operate as it pleases at the drop of a hat. Loli isn't something like drugs where you need a manufacturing plant and ungodly amounts of highly restricted chemicals, it's just drawings. Anyone with a pencil could draw it any way they want and if it has more appeal, or if they can figure out how to shift appeal, the whole fucking thing turns upside down instantly. If the black market can figure out how to smuggle 20 different kinds of insanely regulated, difficult to manufacture drugs and also gradually figure out how to make novel and/or stronger variations on a yearly basis, how the shit do you regulate or control pencil scribbles. Art itself can't even be controlled. For how high of a price contemporary art fetches, there sure as shit are a lot of artists veering as hard as they can into the lowest paid art styles possible while completely rejecting all contemporary art.
>They frequently censors any materials that contain values they dislike
Yes, but China still has a very lucrative and very large black market. The CCP can't even keep people from talking about verboten topics on WeChat, which is completely regulated and has systems to analyze and delete/ban text and video they dissaprove of.
Yes the CCP can keep the majority of people loyal and stupid, but that's because ever since Mao the PRC has had a captive audience. You would never be able to pull their shit here

[Anonymous No.4245326]

>>4245321
>You would never be able to pull their shit here

Oh, boy... Do you know what is happening right now in the UK?

[Anonymous No.4245341]

>>4245326
Educate me.

[Anonymous No.4245390]

>>4243891

Draw non-naked loli's then (japs seem to have no problem doing this) and keep the naked ones on pixiv,etc.

[Anonymous No.4245778]

>>4244983
Yes, true. It's already happening. But, anyone who claims it's one evil organism behind it is blind. There are anti-art and anti-porn pushers on every political side, in every party. They have no common ground except their desire for bans. What I must remind is because so many try to redefine terms, it's almost always conservatives behind it. Meaningful liberalism of both left and right is against censorship, and for freedom. If someone wants bans and censorship, they are not liberal even if they call themselves such. "Liberal" has no right/left connection, both can be liberal. Right-wing and left-wing liberals must unite against censorship together!
>>4245003
Your post doesn't make sense. What are you even saying?
>>4245036
/pol/ isn't known for sanity...
>>4245056
The tactic that /pol/tards claim to not be /pol/tards is hilarious. They shoot themselves in the feet and I like it. /pol/ was meant as a containment board and should be enforced.
>>4245321
Exactly this. Governments are not omnipotent even in the most repressive country, and art is the people's tool against censorship. The more you censor, the more art will challenge censors. This doesn't mean governments won't ban all art or porn or such, but in reality it won't be effective and only profits the black market that the government can't control.

There can be "hybrids", where the government takes control of the black market, yes, but it's rare and never full. The only one example I can think of is Afghanistan under Omar when the government itself hoarded all banned things, but still it was dysfunctional. Such as taking full control of drug market while destroying most means of production, increasing prices and profiting from "funneling". But, much money still went elsewhere and turned drug addicts against them. They also officially banned pedophilia but raped and trafficked children more than any other! But, like you said, such things are not feasible in almost any countries.

[Anonymous No.4245809]

>>4239328
Twitter was shit from the start

[Anonymous No.4245843]

>>4245809
True but only on the Western front, jap-side it's based as fuck and SJW/drama-shit are close to non-existent, at least compared to the Western side anyways.

[Anonymous No.4245870]

>>4239402
>clickbait headline: "research shows chocolate FATAL if consumed!"
>hidden somewhere in body of text: "but only for dogs"
>your retarded ass: but read the headline again!

[Anonymous No.4246143]

>>4239328
Guess reporting stuff on twatter is really helpful after all.

[Anonymous No.4246152]

>>4245778
>muh censurshit
>"i mus b able to post anime tiddies openly so that horny kids steal their parents credit cards and donate to my fagtreon"
>muh pol boogeyman
oh vey

[Anonymous No.4246157]

>>4239396
Never seen anyone have issue with nsfw art on instagram. It also doesn't blacklist your account like twitter does. Anyone who thinks their account is unaffected on twitter when posting nsfw art is retarded...

[Anonymous No.4246186]

>>4245870
False equivalence. No matter how much you try to paint Jack as being okay with NSFW it does not erase the fact that twitter absolutely can nuke your account got just being nsfw. I do not care what they are currently doing, what matters is what they can do.
>>4246152
>>muh pol boogeyman
Please tell us, who exactly is throwing around echoes and worrying about Jewish plots other than /pol/tards?

[Anonymous No.4246210]

>>4246186
>Please tell us, who exactly is throwing around echoes and worrying about Jewish plots other than /pol/tards?
You're using /pol/ as a strawman argument to discredit anything that doesn't agree with you.
Which ok, sure, it's pretty obvious that you are suffering from intellectual insecurity but lurk moar, faggot

[Anonymous No.4246220]

>>4246210
>You're using /pol/ as a strawman argument to discredit anything that doesn't agree with you.
No I'm not. I'm asking you what ideology or what political group you belong to to have these views. I am not discrediting you for being a /pol/tard, I am discrediting the beliefs you hold (as stated directly by posts itt) and that anon is mocking poltards for being inconsistent or illogical. If you removed his mocking of pol and my questioning of where you hail from the posts would still stand.
If me calling you or anyone else itt /pol/ is unfounded then all I'm asking is for you to tell me how it is you type and think like /pol/ without being from there. It's a simple question

[Anonymous No.4246231]

>>4245210
If you're simply wondering why the powers that be aren't bankrolling lolicon, the reason is that lolicon is morally superior to raping children.
The core of this is that people are fundamendally opposed to societal and systematic structures. Everyone has basic desires that can't be filled in a rigid society. In order to keep a society functioning, you must supply people fantasy that fills these desires, therefore porn (and art in general) is one of the core structures keeping society together.
Selling porn might get you money and influence in society, but it doesn't let you subvert and break the same society. For that, you need to first forbid fantasy, and then in its place supply the things originally desired, so as to lower the sense of morality in society until it falls into pieces.
You might not know, but when the FBI does pedophile stings on loli sites and communities, they generally don't catch a single offending pedophile. In contrast, just going on facebook and trying random people gets them dozens of criminals an hour.

And even if there wasn't a centralized force behind it this would still happen as long fantasy of any kind gets banned.

>>4245778
>it's not feasible even if it's definitely happened before
Afganistan isn't the only case of this, practically every government does this just not as outrageously.
And cabals like Epstein and Co. do as well.

>>4246220
I've visited /pol/ some three to five times.
And I think it's naive to think that there isn't a global elite of sorts. All races have their own community, all religions have their own community, workers have unions, the people appoint governments, businesses deal with each other, the moderators of any given website moderate the same website.
It would be naive to think that the people at the top of the world were so isolated from each other that they couldn't even device a plan for the new world. If it happens to be jews then that's a funny coincidence, but it's someone.

[Anonymous No.4246235]

>>4240786
No, all the normies are in instagram

[Anonymous No.4246255]

>>4246231
>If you're simply wondering why the powers that be aren't bankrolling lolicon
I'm wondering why you would create a black market. A black market is inherently uncontrollable.
>lolicon is morally superior to raping children.
But being a normal citizen is morally superior to being a lolicon. There are only so many lolicons and a decent few of them abhor 3d. So why try to convert loli into pedos when you can make normies into lolicons
>For that, you need to first forbid fantasy, and then in its place supply the things originally desired, so as to lower the sense of morality in society until it falls into pieces.
But the only thing that changed was the legal standard. Morals as a whole haven't changed, and there's no evidence to indicate that if you change the legal standard the morals of a society will then decrease, especially when you're dealing with things the society can create.
>when the FBI does pedophile stings on loli sites and communities, they generally don't catch a single offending pedophile. In contrast, just going on facebook and trying random people gets them dozens of criminals an hour.
This one kind of makes sense but this could be for a number of reasons, I'd like to see a citations if you have one. I'm not sure how this bit is relevant anyways
>this would still happen as long fantasy of any kind gets banned.
But you can't ban fantasy. People will just make the art they want
>it's naive to think that there isn't a global elite of sorts.
I'm not questioning if there's a global elite. There are likely a number of high profile orgs vying for power. My question is why some believe that it is all the fault of Jews and how those same people can assign Jews conflicting values and a poor strategy. It's not even like it's being sold as conflicting groups of Jews doing shit, it's being sold as one collective that has these values or plans.

[Anonymous No.4246263]

>>4246220
>Implying that most of /pol/ meme talking points aren't as old as recorded history.
>all I'm asking is for you to tell me how it is you type and think like /pol/ without being from there. >It's a simple question
It's a retarded question.
It's the usual ideological bait and switch
>"Which side are you on haha i knew it look at me and how morally higher i am than you"
I say it again; it's pretty obvious that you're simply trying to jerk off your own ego instead of actually discussing a topic.
Because anyone with half a functioning brain can put 1 and 1 together in regards of societal, hierarchical and financial structure.
It's even easier to see who's who since we have easily accessible information.
>>4246231
>And I think it's naive to think that there isn't a global elite of sorts
basically what this Anon said
the joos is just a meme word used, to describe the psychopaths at the top of the money chain, spawned from the many coincidences of jewish related propaganda and actions throughout history. Also mostly because it's still jews pulling strings in the current heated political climate and being overrepresented in many fields despite being a very small minority.
You have to be a brainwashed normie to argue against facts because
>nu uh think illegal
but to be fair, this is a filthy normie board
And normies sure like to talk about shit they don't know jack about

[Anonymous No.4246339]

>>4246263
>>Implying that most of /pol/ meme talking points aren't as old as recorded history
An argument being old doesn't mean an abundance of people will have that argument.
>It's the usual ideological bait and switch
>>"Which side are you on haha i knew it look at me and how morally higher i am than you"
You're pretty blatantly just creating your own strawman here. I've dared question your beliefs so I must be some faux-intellectual huffing their own farts.
>I say it again; it's pretty obvious that you're simply trying to jerk off your own ego instead of actually discussing a topic.
So the paragraphs of arguments I've laid out don't qualify as real arguments or aren't actually discussion because why? Because I simply asked someone to explain how they aren't a poltard?
>It's even easier to see who's who since we have easily accessible information.
>the joos is just a meme word used, to describe the psychopaths at the top of the money chain, spawned from the many coincidences of jewish related propaganda and actions throughout history.
>Also mostly because it's still jews pulling strings in the current heated political climate and being overrepresented in many fields despite being a very small minority.
So it's not the jews, but it's the jews. Am I getting that right or am I missing something?

Forgive me if this is begging the question but if you have an issue with any of the arguments I've laid out why are you attacking the fact that I'm questioning the origin of your beliefs rather than just debunking my arguments. You've wasted so much breath trying to discredit me for the smallest things rather than actually argue against anything I've said while at the same time declaring that I have no arguments. To what end?

>this is a filthy normie board
Under who's definition?

[Anonymous No.4246499]

>>4246339
>hurr durr im retarded
Go to /pol/ if you want to test your
>arguments
properly
Although, i doubt you will comprehend anything in that bubble of yours

[Anonymous No.4247127]

>>4246152
I don't know who you think I am, however, I assure I'm not. The concept of online donation for such causes as art doesn't exist in my country. When I sell art, it's not online. But, I want to be able to show it online like I have been so far, including on Twitter with the setting of adult content. Now they say things contradicting each other, it's "OK" to have NSFW content if you use the NSFW setting but also that posting too much NSFW content gets banning. That's worrying because it means they can do double standards, because some can be used for their gain while other can't. Youtube does the same and it's been pointed out. It's the conservative authoritarian government mindset to have, I see it in my country daily, yet Twitter and Youtube claim to have progressive CEO's and such and are not governments. There is no conspiracy, it just is predatory capitalism.
>>4246210
We're at least two different people, telling you mostly the same thing.
>>4246231
>Afganistan isn't the only case of this
But, in every other case it never works to that extent. You can only speculate conspiracy theories for other countries, with Afghanistan it was a fact the "black market" was controlled by the government. But, again, they overtook the black market and after that it is by definition not a black market except for the parts outside government control. I don't see how this is hard to understand, a real black market is out of control. They just didn't officially say "we traffic drugs and kids to foreign countries" but it was still common knowledge they did. That isn't a real black market even though the framework originated from the black market by mafia and such.
>>4246263
>jews pulling strings in the current heated political climate and being overrepresented in many fields despite being a very small minority
Only in America! My country has only a handful of Jews, and have no control.
>>4246499
/pol/ doesn't want honest arguments, they ban for daring to question them...

[Anonymous No.4247148]

>>4246499
I'll expand what I said because you will otherwise respond only with
>hurr durr /pol/ doesn't ban dissidents
You can "argue" on /pol/, I have tried it a few times to perhaps counter them. But, they will all call you a shill or troll and "meme" at you and your posts will be reported so many times, and because the mods agree with the users, they will be deleted and you will be banned or at least warned for "trolling" or other such excuses. The only times this does not happen are probably if the posts are clearly sarcastic or satire, and the real argument is to agree with the /pol/ narrative, or if you "concede" with them on other points to at least give the impression of conforming to /pol/ ideas.

[Anonymous No.4247420]

>>4247127
>>4247148
>subjective and self centered """"arguments""""
>IZ NOT MEEE IS THE OTHERS11!!
>obviously parroting some agenda
>b-b-but muh argonauts /pol don do dem honest caus i git beened for posting the same shit over and over, obviously shilling propaganda
ok you big retard

[Anonymous No.4247655]

>>4247420
>/pol/ isn't /pol/
>/pol/ has no agenda
>everyone else has an agenda but /pol/
>incoherent to the degree of being gibberish
What kind of trolling even is this? This is the last (you) you get from me.

[Anonymous No.4247692]

>>4247655
>implying /pol/ is one person
>implying by the huge amount of implanted opinion most retards spout on every post, they should be taken seriously
>trying this hard
>doesn't even frequent a board and regurgitates normie memes
>not understanding abstract language and meaning
>as an artist
>on an art board
>cuz muh jibbberesh
>"haha dis b troll i win"
>being this pathetic
>being this autistic
>probably jerking off to anime tiddies right now
an hero desu senpai

[Anonymous No.4250292]

>>4243891
Sucks to be you then faggot.

[Anonymous No.4250313]

>>4239381
Based incel pajeets.

[Anonymous No.4250337]

>>4247692
>implying /pol/ doesn't have a board culture
>implying there's not a common ideology shared among the vast majority of /pol/ posters
>implying people that frequent /pol/ don't go to other boards and regurgitate the same talking points over and over
>implying when you say "them" your not referring to kikes
>implying your not a fucking stupid /pol/ nigger for being intellectually dishonest when grilled about saying the same shit that /pol/ always says
>implying your not mentally ill for thinking everyone is some far left tranny nigger for not agreeing with you
>implying your not the other side of the subhuman mongoloid coin with the other side being genderfluid faggotsexual transbian far lefties
>inb4 radical fence sitter
Not even who your arguing with you fucking nigger.