vent thread

[Anonymous No.4233880]

vent, let loose, get it off your chest, contain your anger and sorrow here

[Anonymous No.4233883]

>>4233880
Yesterday I had a toothache, now my tooth broke. It hurts like fuck.

[Anonymous No.4233884]

I have to work on a Cintiq 12wx, and i'm too much of a brainlet to use a desktop screenless tablet, I can't stand working on such uncomfortable device but is all I can afford, it makes me hate drawing time a lot, I know tools won't make You any better but hell it would be more enjoyable.

[Anonymous No.4233886]

>>4233880
this board wont stop being shit

[Anonymous No.4233893]

>>4233884
>I can't stand working on such uncomfortable device but is all I can afford
What's wrong with a Cintiq 12wx

[Anonymous No.4233909]

>>4233893
>small screen
>poor resolution, all looks blurry
>color accuracy non existing
>giant paralax
>glossy reflective screen
>pen pressure is under 1024 levels, si using airbrush is a pain
>screen is really dim even at max brightness

Complete shit, but it was so cheap, know I understand why.

[Anonymous No.4233917]

>>4233909
Should have gotten one of those chink monitors. Cheap and better than Wacom

[Anonymous No.4233918]

>>4233917
Chink shit is not reliable and certainly not better than wacom.

[Anonymous No.4233919]

>>4233880
The people here are genuinely actually stupid or underaged

[Anonymous No.4234748]

>>4233880
I think I'm starting to get what Steven Pressfield wrote in "the war of art".
It seems like no matter how much you love something, or maybe because you love that something so much, you just can't help but want to put it off for as long as possible due to fear of failing at this thing you love.
Fuck it's so annoying to understand this shit and still not be able to do anything about it.
Everyday I wake up and I do literally everything I can to keep myself from drawing, trying to convince myself of some arbitrary reason as to why I can't or shouldn't draw that day.

[Anonymous No.4234749]

>>4234748
Interesting. I wonder why this is.

[Anonymous No.4234764]

>>4231018
i know that specific feeling too anon, currently in a similar boat.

[Anonymous No.4234780]

Normie friends keep trying to pressure me into being a ~professional~ artist even though I actually love my career (not art related but something I am equally passionate about). It's so annoying and I wish they never found my art stuff in the first place, but I guess the way I had set up my Instagram was recommending it to everyone with my phone number in their phone. I also feel like I can't post what I want to there anymore because now people I know IRL are going to see it.

[Anonymous No.4234791]

The idea, of having to post on social media like twitter instagram and shit stresses me the fuck out, i literally dont know how to interact with normos, and the hellscape that is the modern internet makes me also doesnt make me feel any better.

[Anonymous No.4234802]

>>4234791
Just act like the overly nice guy and don't reply to the negative posts. That's what 99% of social media artists seem to be doing.

[Anonymous No.4234883]

Constantly struggling with line weight.
Also my tablet express keys bug out sometimes in csp and stop working.
That is all

[Anonymous No.4234916]

>was in a stream of an artist I like
>he mentions that he's pretty much a nobody and have a niche following
>even though he has close to 8k followers on his websites with more or less between certain ones
>when it's not OC stuff, he usually nets around 500/1000 likes with a good amount of retweets as well
>when he streams, he usually multis with alot of other artists that have big followings
>even though he dosen't make a lot on patreon, he has a dedicated group of people that commission him each time he opens and is willing to support him if he needs financial help has a active discord
How humble is to humble?

[Anonymous No.4234917]

>>4234916
8k *is* a nobody but it's a sustainable level of being a "nobody"
He isn't too wrong for saying that. If he had like 16-20k+ then yeah gtfo with that humble shit

[Anonymous No.4234920]

I can't catch glaring asymmetry in shapes with my eyes until I flip the page. I've been relentlessly trying to train myself to do better for years and I've only seen limited success. I'd say I'm pretty beg tier, but I'm starting to get burnt out because of that and a number of other things. It's hard to explain, it just throws everything off, especially when I try to draw any kind of face. I do notice similar asymmetry in many other artists, even some way more successful ones, but for some reason it doesn't look shitty when they do it. I don't care if it's natural and everyone does it. I want to do better, it's crippling me.

[Anonymous No.4234923]

>>4233918
Wacom's build quality has been surpassed by the chink shit. They'd better step it up or im not buying their pieces of shit ever again

[Anonymous No.4234934]

How the fuck do I replicate Bob Ross in Krita? I can't get mountains look right. When Ross pulls the paint with his brush it makes streaks that ad dimension. All I get in Krita is a flat color. I keep watching Joy of Panting and time-lapses but I still don't know others are doing it.
I'm so /beg/ I can't do a Bob Ross.
>>4233909
I can't relate since I'm using a Bamboo with a 7' work area.

[Anonymous No.4234939]

>>4234917
>well shit how many followers do you need to be "somebody" then?

[Anonymous No.4234941]

>>4234917
well shit how many followers do you need to be "somebody" then?

[Anonymous No.4234950]

I'm losing the grip I'm losing the grip
I am drawing every day but last finished digital work was like a week ago
Anons told me to study anatomy and I do that but I get the awful feeling of missing out on something, that I should do a finished work at least every 2 days..
And now I watched a 3h long movie and I feel like a day has passed and everyone has move on with their lives

[Anonymous No.4234952]

>>4234941
It's all a matter of opinion anyway so what does it matter

[Anonymous No.4234959]

>>4234950
What's your discord

[Anonymous No.4234961]

>>4234959
why

[Anonymous No.4234963]

>>4234961
I wanted to talk into your ear

[Anonymous No.4234965]

>>4234963
hot

[Anonymous No.4234968]

Remember that study thread we had earlier? >>4211606
Saw pic related today

[Anonymous No.4235074]

>>4234968
ugh

[Anonymous No.4235081]

MY LINES ARE NEVER FUCKING SMOOTH NO MATTER HOW MUCH I DRAW/PRACTICE

[Anonymous No.4235093]

>>4234968

what a piece of shit

[Anonymous No.4235097]

>>4235081
what media?

[Anonymous No.4235132]

>>4234748
This is dumb.
Many people can't stop themselves from drawing and draw for fun all the time. Frequently they are pro artists.
Sorry to burst your bubble.

[Anonymous No.4235172]

I wanted to git gud at traditional art to have chance to get into art school so I dropped animu fanart to focus on studies.
It's been over a month and didn't draw anything since that day. Just kill me.

[Anonymous No.4235216]

>>4234968
comment with something coy like "hey I really like that face, is it based on a real person?"

[Anonymous No.4235220]

>>4233880
I'm glad I stopped drawing porn. Wish I'd never done it to begin with, my SFW art account would be farther along by now. But it's still good.

[Anonymous No.4235229]

>>4234791
What that first Anon said. Literally just fake it till you make it ;P

[Anonymous No.4235280]

>>4235093
You're either a fucking woman or beta as fuck. fuck outta here with that passive aggressive bullshit.

[Anonymous No.4235309]

>>4235172
>I wanted to git gud at drawing so I stopped drawing

[Anonymous No.4235311]

>>4234968
People need references regardless of skill level

[Anonymous No.4235348]

>>4234950
Shit anon, maybe being this worked up about it means, it's time to take a break?

[Anonymous No.4235351]

>>4235132
>Many people can't stop themselves from drawing and draw for fun all the time. Frequently they are pro artists.
Should probably read the book before being a reddit tier contrarian and making yourself look like a retard (if you actually have some form of mental retardation you can ignore this post and I apologize)

[Anonymous No.4235354]

>>4235351
Is the end of this post the equivalent of
>this is satire
?
Because, as an autist, that would actually be unironically helpful. If it could it ever be believed to be not satire itself...

[Anonymous No.4235362]

>>4235354
No it isn't satire.
I'm just saying that I wouldn't want to make fun of an actual mentally handicaped person.

[Anonymous No.4235364]

>>4235362
Ok thanks. Carry on.

[Anonymous No.4235368]

>>4233880
>Be me
>Be ADHDfag
>suddenly have an irresistible autistic urge to draw
>oh god this again.jpeg
>this lasts three months
>urge dying down
>fighting through the mental slog trying to keep my newly found drawing passion
Why.

[Anonymous No.4235371]

>>4235368
Sometimes with mental problems, it's a thing of fighting it, sometimes you've got to trick yourself, and sometimes you just have say fuck it and go along for the ride. Learning the difference is key to success. But keep at it anon, whatever you do, don't devalue yourself because of it. Anon believes in you.

[Anonymous No.4235372]

>>4235371
I've done this several times with several hobbies to my own and others frustrations. Atleast if I was an autist I could focus on one fucking thing. Instead I'm a glorified trivia answer sheet. If I let this slip I'll just go into another depressive hibernation.

[Anonymous No.4235381]

>>4235372
I'm sorry to hear that anon, but I can tell you, being hyper focused has plenty of its own drawbacks. If it's bad enough for you though, do you see someone about it and have you considered meds? Or manage it in any other way? It's always worth a shot, and a second.. etc

[Anonymous No.4235383]

I'm good enough at illustration to have been pushed in that direction my whole life but not good enough to actually make a living off of it. I got a degree in graphic design back when it was The Next Big Thing which hasn't helped me one bit. Got crippled in a manual labor job and screwed by the company, lawyer couldn't fix it. Now I've got all this debt, no marketable skills, and the government apparently doesn't think "can't walk" qualifies as a disability. Fuck people for encouraging young "artist" me. I'd have been much better as a pencil pusher from the start.

[Anonymous No.4235397]

>>4235383
Damn

[Anonymous No.4235399]

>>4235383
>and the government apparently doesn't think "can't walk" qualifies as a disability.
What kind of 3rd world backwards ass country do you live in?

[Anonymous No.4235427]

>>4235399
You'd be surprised what some people have to go through to get anything even if it's entirely reasonable.

[Anonymous No.4235518]

>>4234780
Announce that you quit drawing a secretly make an another account.
Or just embrace every consequence and move on as usual.

[Anonymous No.4235562]

>>4234968
Either link the /ic/ thread, post a screencap of it or just post the original photograph in the thread OP

[Anonymous No.4235583]

>>4235383
Channeling my energy, strength and will to you, my dude.
Anon, you've got to overcome the bitterness and become better than you ever was.
Think big.
Plan your work.
You are going to make it and nothing will stop you.

[Anonymous No.4235656]

I'm Polish I'm 22 years old and I still have 0 income

[Anonymous No.4235760]

I just wish someone would commission me

[Anonymous No.4236060]

>>4235760
me too..........
>>4235656
me too.......... except 23 and american.........

[Anonymous No.4236071]

>>4235656
>>4236060
25 faggots, welcome to hell

[Anonymous No.4236115]

>>4233880
i just want to shit out a few comics before I die

[Anonymous No.4236186]

It's so fucking cold and I don't have any heating.
Tried layering but my limbs are still ice cold and if I put on too much I just sweat.

I think I caught a cold too, my stomach hurts and I just feel sick

[Anonymous No.4236243]

>>4235760
Just keep posting! You do have a blog right? You need to continue making drawings for fun and to grow, eventually you'll find fans who love commissioning you every so often

[Anonymous No.4236252]

>>4234934
Bob Ross's painting style is built around oils. Doesn't transfer well to digital. Look up painting techniques that are specific to digital painting.

[Anonymous No.4236414]

I'm 38.
I always struggled with money, and at some point, since I was getting zero attention, I decided to just give up art as a potential career and just drop my ass on my newly aquired, lifelong wageslave job.
I like to think I tried my best, but its a lie. I never reached out beyond 4chan. I was shy, and scared shitless of failure.

And now I'm here, trapped in a job I hate, and every time I feel the need of trying again drawing something, defibrillating that dream, telling myself "age doesn't matter, you can still do It" I feel so fucking empty. Its like the person that liked to draw was someone else.

I need to be a professional artist to feel accomplished in my life. But I can't do It anymore.
I should be happy with what I have, but I can't

[Anonymous No.4236418]

>>4233880
I wish I wasn't so hard on myself. Luckyly I'm not hard on my art but I'm so damn hard on myself that a lot of the times I know I should be happier I can't because I have a sadist voice inside me who whips me at the slightest mishappen.

[Anonymous No.4236425]

>>4235383
Look, if you got published there is a market for your art, you just need to find It
Consider the quantity of shitty doodlers that sometimes get even a fanbase. Its a marketing yourself thing.

About the rest, that's some hard shit dude. I'm really sorry to hear that
What fucking country don't consider disabled people that can't walk, Sudan?

[Anonymous No.4236427]

>>4233880
>Complete a piece
>No background
>Spend more time autistically trying to make background somehow compliment the colors of the figure
>Still haven't posted the piece and it has been days since.

[Anonymous No.4236458]

>>4235280

stop projecting

[Anonymous No.4236460]

I've been stuck drawing the same thing for the last couple of days.
Always a fucking bird
why does it always come out a bird?

[Anonymous No.4236472]

I hate being shit at art AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA i hate being looked up to by teenage retards and looked down on by those i admire
>>4236460
birds are good

[Anonymous No.4237086]

>>4236186
Had the same situation on my countryside recently.
Get a quartz electric heater.
It's cheap and just enough for a person to warm up.
Or use a hair dryer for the hands for example.
Two layers of socks is a must.

[Anonymous No.4237107]

>>4233880

I keep giving up,but something in me keeps longing for drawing after a while. I am not good. I am bad. I start drawing for a few months and then I give up, after a year or so I start over again, but I get frustrated because I cant go to artschool since I am in law school and its too time consuming to do anything else.I suck at that too. I am bad at my career, I am bad at my hobbies, I am bad at everything, the only thing I was ever good at was bodybuilding but then I got sick and had to drop it. now my bones are fucked and cant do it anymore . I drew his 1 and half years ago.I was really proud of it, its the last thing I drew then I gave up. Yesterday I came back here. I tried doing some stuff and failed horrible, now I am miserable, I want to quit but I know I ll come back again and again and feel worse and worse each time

[Anonymous No.4237174]

I’m stuck in a cycle of coming to this site to yell at retards to blow off steam and running into retards on this site that make me need to blow off steam. The retards aren’t going away so I guess it’ll have to be me. see you all tomorrow desu

[Anonymous No.4237338]

I don't see a happy ending for myself. I'm 25, I sank 3 years into this and I just lost passion/enjoyment. I feel like all my art sucks, I just doodle around, I don't have a need or want to create something so everything is just soulless characters standing around, no point, no meaning. I wanted to do art for a living, but it just feels like it will be harder & more depressing than a regular job. I can't really see the light at the end of the tunnel, and I just feel like I failed at everything I wanted in life. It really does feel hopeless, and what could I do to change it? really nothing, people work at a gas station all their life, and that's all I see if I don't make it in art. I don't want to go to college, I have no interest in any career, I have a disinterest for everything in life except having friends and a girlfriend, things I never had. I am depressed and all psychiatrists could do for me is recommend me medication, there's no group meeting to get me on track, it's go into the workforce, find someway to cope with your meaningless sad life, do drugs or shoot yourself. I now know why people do drugs, because life as an adult can be really miserable if you don't have a passion. There's not really anything anyone can do for me, it just sucks. I wish someone could give me some direction, tell me it's going to be ok if you just do X. My dream in life would be to be a great musician, but I know I'd fail at that aswell, I'd just end up being mediocre, everything I have done I've failed at, I couldn't get myself to be a good artist or anything else I tried. I really really tried hard with art, and it just didn't feel right, like I was trying too hard. Maybe the right thing would have been just be what everyone thought I'd be, a janitor that drinks after work, because I tried really hard and I've lost a lot of my life trying to be something and prove everyone wrong. There's no one to talk to or guide me, lift me up, it just sucks.

[Anonymous No.4237353]

>>4237338

pt.2

I know what I want, to feel good, to feel like the star of the tv show, live on on the sunny beach in cali in a suburban neighborhood,a snowy christmas, have cool friends I see on a daily basis, a girlfriend, nice hotwater, meaning and happiness, to not feel like everyday I'm wasting away, I don't know what job it takes to get there or what job I'd enjoy doing.

[Anonymous No.4237370]

Im at the point of thinking wether i should just continue with art but i feel like everything i do is bad, but at this point in time its the only reason why i continue existing rather than putting bullet in my skull to end this cycle of misery called life.

[Anonymous No.4237378]

Why the FUCK can’t I just sit still and draw/study?

Whenever I draw like three poses, I jump around like some autist and start fantasising about amazing, dynamic action poses and characters in my head in action. It thrills me to imagine my characters come to life in my head that I get a sudden adrenaline spike and just hop around like a retard.

I just can’t fucking sit still and finish something in one sitting. Might be ADHD.

[Anonymous No.4237402]

>>4237338
>>4237353
I feel you to a certain extent.
Around 15 anime inspired me to learn how to draw, I tried for a while and eventually quit, I wasn't studying the fundies and adults were telling me artists make no money
As time went on I just graduated and worked a wagie job at Wal-Mart, thinking how I abandoned drawing and my time was going to waste. Early this year I decided to say fuck it, I don't need anime and I don't need video games, i need to build skill as an artist. So I've been drawing everday and studying, I'm making good progress but my dad gets drunk a lot and yells at me for what I'm trying to do. He makes me feel like a waste since I make pennies off of art online, and just wants me to find a min wage job or join the service. It feels bad trying to practice art in an isolated embodiment
I ask him if joining the service or working a low paying wage job is the only future I have and he doesn't have an answer. Of course he doesnt, he never had jobs that required talent or skill. He worked as a taxi driver or a delivery driver his whole life. I don't want that to be me. I want to try and make use of my youth to develop a skill I can be happy with. Even if I don't live off my art, I'll be able to make things for fun, and make cash from the comfort of my home.
If you're feeling unmotivated, you should try some anime that will move you. If that's not your stuff, then just consume whatever relates to your art. You can't keep going without reminding yourself why you love a certain thing in the art
>>4237370
It'll take time and dedication to get good. Keep trying so that you one day do not look back and think "damn I wish I never quit. I could have been good now with the time I chose to waste instead"

[Anonymous No.4237770]

>don't wanna draw don't feel like drawing
>reeeeeeeeee
>try to play video games
>mouse is jumping around for every game I try to play????
>try to eat junk food accidentally drop the bag
>every single piece of popcorn falls out of the bag
FINE I'LL FUCKING DRAW RREEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.4237802]

I FUCKING HATE EVERYTHING I DRAW FUCKING SHIT NUGGETS

[Anonymous No.4237958]

>Post art in group chat
>no replies
>Someone else does
>6 replies
Every time

[Anonymous No.4237972]

>>4237958
Post it here and I'll give you another reply

[Anonymous No.4237973]

>>4236414
Aw - fuck. I'm 4 years behind you bud.

I keep spinning back to the 'did I ever possess 'talent' mindset'

but - fuck accomplishment - do art for you, would you rather try and fail or never try at all?

[Anonymous No.4237997]

I want to go draw at my favorite spot in the park, like I normally do for lunch. But fuck I have a headache and I think it's from lack of food. Because I'm torn of eating away my emotions or starving myself too death. I think in the next life I would still want to be a painter.

[Anonymous No.4238137]

>>4237107
Its not cause you're shit, is cause you don't practice. Yes shit sucks now but it won't if you keep at it. We all suffer together.

[Anonymous No.4238142]

>>4233880
My college professor said someone lost their Apple pen and I claimed it as mine.

[Anonymous No.4238203]

>>4238142
Rude
But okay free pen

[Anonymous No.4238237]

it’s been like 8-9 years since i’ve really tried to draw/paint consistently. i’ve been through a lot of bull shit and i’m really harsh on myself. the other day i posted my portrait studies of two people and i was received well. my friend had to encourage me to finally post them. it was on my personal fb, and it’s almost at 50 likes. feels good but i’m shy cuz someone asked if this was my work and i should post more. then encouraged me after i replied said he’s always looking for more art at his office. ;_;

i posted another piece yesterday and got a good amount of likes, and then someone commented saying to check tumblr because last time i drew this particular person it was stolen by someone who is friends of friends. it was really creepy when we found that out.

i just realized my tumblr is public and i posted my new art there too. idk his tumblr to block it. wouldn’t matter i guess. how do y’all cope with the idea of people stealing your work. :(

[Anonymous No.4238319]

Ever seen an art style so good it makes you feel bad about your own and shut down for the week, and you don't wanna take any attributes from it cause it would be too obvious and you'd feel like a fucking rip off, and you just end up thinking about either suicide or committing yourself to a mental hospital so you don't have to worry about having fun with your craft again or depending on it anymore

[Anonymous No.4238322]

>>4238319
>committing yourself to the mental hospital
i do not recommend this, the ward is full of white actual boomers or overweight grad students and the doctors just say “hmmm yup i diagnose you with depression” and charge you 7000 to look at therapy workbooks from the 80s. but i guess it depends per person

[Anonymous No.4238325]

>>4238322
I'd just stay in my room all catatonic between meals and bath time and not talk to anyone until I die there

[Anonymous No.4238333]

>>4238319
Fuck no because my art style is in my hands as long as I try. We have the tools to do just as good as every other digital artist, and learning is fun.

[Anonymous No.4238340]

If im not happy with my style by the time I'm 22 I'm just gonna give up and become homeless and sleep on the floor at the shelter all day until I croak, I dont deserve to live in even the luxury of a shitty rented room, Im dumb and autistic with no consistent support network or friends and I cant do shit and none of my commission clients are ever happy with the shit I send them, maybe I should get my limbs hacked off by someone so I can at least live off of disability, I fucking hate myself so much, no therapists want to deal with my bullshit and the snake oil they push doesnt fucking work, I'm so useless KIlLL ME KILL ME FUCKING KILL ME IN MY SLEEP AND HAVE ME REINCARNATE AS A BLAND NORMIE WHO'S HAPPY WITH HAVING A DEAD END OFFICE JOB FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE WHOS TASTES AND INTERESTS ARE BASED ON WHATS POPULAR FUCKFCCVJ

[Anonymous No.4238344]

>>4238340
>tfw picked up art again when i was 21, 22 now
USE YOUR YEARS WISELY

[Anonymous No.4238349]

>>4235518
>Announce that you quit drawing a secretly make an another account
Oh! This would solve both problems at once. You're a genius.

[Anonymous No.4238352]

I draw caricatures in a theme park where one of the artists tried to murder another one with a pair of scissors and stabbed him in the occipital lobe so he can barely see out of one eye.

[Anonymous No.4238499]

I think I’m getting over my shit. I went to school on graphic design for a year and a half and quit because “art was my passion” and put myself into a atelier for a year and a half before I broke down entirely. That was 2013 and I haven’t done shit since. I’m in debt, can’t work and terrified by working on my own shit. I wish someone would’ve slapped me and told me depression isn’t forever and by not enjoying what got you through life in the first place is a fucking sad joke. I suck. I’m years behind where I want to be. I’m tired of being a fucking loser and afraid of putting pen to paper and it looking bad. It all looks bad man. I’m sick of my own bullshit and it’s okay that I can’t be studying 90 hours a week to improve. I’m not built for that. I have issues and that’s fucking fine. I’m turning 35 and at least I’m not 60 realizing I wasted my life on not doing something I cared about for me and not anyone else. I want to get better but the pressure kills you. I have Loomis books around and fuck my bodies are jacked but I can still learn. My hands aren’t missing and I’ve got an amazing support system. The good thing about art is you can start at anytime and no one thinks less of you. Just draw because you can and fuck there’s always another sketchbook lying around that needs bad lines in it. You’re not shit, just get it out. Don’t waste years on what you could’ve been instead waste years on learning and loving what you do again. Is it that simple? Maybe not for everyone else but your already down in the hole so might as well. I’m tired of my attitude and I made a OC design I actually like and feel like fucking drawing again. In the end I’m alive, count my blessings while I have them and when depression hits don’t take it in so bad. You’ll learn at a different rate from anyone else and that’s not bad. I’m just pissed about it all. Fuck it whatever.

[Anonymous No.4238584]

>follow small artist with similar subject matter
>no follow back
i-it’s because I’m bad, isn’t it

[Anonymous No.4238599]

>>4238584
How big of a faggot do you have to be to expect a follow back?

You are bad.

[Anonymous No.4238623]

>>4233880
>Be me
>Autistically save my work on Paint SAI every two fucking seconds
>One time, I accidentally just don't
>For two fucking hours of work, making lots of progress and finalising my perspective
>Paint SAI crashes, literally the first time it ever has for me
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.4238711]

>>4233880
I want great skill, respect, money and artistic freedom.
I am not ready to sacrifize everything for it.

I wish to be remarkable, yet i am so common.

[Anonymous No.4238713]

>>4233918
Chink shit was already on par with wacom 5 years ago when I got a chink tablet, but the drivers were so godawful that I got a wacom instead. Unless chinks didn't figure out how to make their devices work with Windows, they must be superior in every way by now.

[Anonymous No.4238714]

>>4238711
>I wish to be remarkable, yet i am so common.
t. 99.99% of /ic/, including me.

[Anonymous No.4238740]

>>4238714
Make a few people you care about happy with your art. Fuck the rest.

[Anonymous No.4238776]

>>4238499
The only way you can go is forward anon.
Take a deep breath, take care of yourself and make a plan to gain back control.

Taking up running or something similar will help a lot.

Good luck anon

[Anonymous No.4238800]

I hate that I end up being baited into giving advice to someone with a dead end mind set. I know so many quitters and doomsayers, it's almost depressing. Just almost.
>>4238584
Don't do this

[Anonymous No.4238821]

i don't have fun drawing anymore

[Anonymous No.4238928]

>>4238776
Thank you for your kind words! I’ve been working out and finally taking care of myself so I’m working hard for basic life goals. I’m gonna keep pushing forward. Just had to let it all out!

[Anonymous No.4238940]

>>4238821
That's because you're bad at drawing and you're noticed that just now

[Anonymous No.4238948]

>>4238940
how do i enjoy drawing while being bad at it?

[Anonymous No.4238951]

>>4238584
>bad artist follows me
>I leave a like on the best work and close his page
>he unfollows me week later

[Anonymous No.4238956]

>>4238948
You can't, no pain no gain. Only way to enjoy art is either be good at it or be completely blissful

[Anonymous No.4238959]

>>4238948
It gets fun when you study and practice hard. You even might see yourself pass people who were once more skillful than you

[Anonymous No.4239000]

I hate twitter

[Anonymous No.4239017]

>>4239000
Spittin straight facts

[Anonymous No.4239071]

>Established artist new work is getting worse, almost phoning it in
>Still gets same praise because people blindingly like anything new

[Anonymous No.4239170]

>>4233880
Fuck jannies, nigger mods banned my pass again

[Anonymous No.4239181]

heart eater

whyd u eat my heart alive?

[Anonymous No.4239194]

/ic/ is easily the best board on this site.

Yeah there’s crabs and whatnot but I’ve never seen corny, pathetic faggots trying to lament the fact that they don’t have a GF and how boo hoo their life is cause they’re an artist.

Everyone here just wants to be great at their hobby/passion and that’s all that matters on this board. You cannot tell me that there is a board possibly better than this one.

[Anonymous No.4239222]

>>4239194
The AAAAAAAAAAA I JUST WANT A QT ART GF posts definitely happen here too

[Anonymous No.4239239]

>>4239194
/i/ is just not better because is dead

[Anonymous No.4239260]

>take meds
>lose depression thoughts but also lose will to draw, or do anything
Art really is suffering

[Anonymous No.4239265]

>>4239260
Draw anyways.

[Anonymous No.4239267]

>>4239265
Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.4239269]

>>4239267
Any time

[Anonymous No.4239272]

>>4233880
I fucking hate university and STEM. All I want to do is create art and dedicate myself to learning what I actually want to.

[Anonymous No.4239275]

>>4234748
Sit down and start drawing, start doing studies at least, not grinding fundies necessarily, but observing something and drawing. The worst thing for me is that I know I'll never have time to become the artist I want to be because I'm forced to do science for purely economic reasons. I just wish I had the mind of Da Vinci, so that I could do both and very well.

[Anonymous No.4239432]

>>4236252
Sense my last post I found and a brush set specifically for this kind of panting. It's a lot essayer now but I can't make mountains with depth like Ross. I'll have to watch Joy of Panting to see how that works.

[Anonymous No.4239476]

fucking sick of seeing retard normalfags jerking off hideous, lazy tweened shit because "wow so smooth!!" fucking christ it looks like shit and it's barely even animating at that point. fuck puppeting i hate it so fucking much

[Anonymous No.4239526]

>>4239476
>"animator" reuses the same frame but edited with a transform tool

[Anonymous No.4239630]

MY BLUETOOTH CONTROLLER WONT SHOW UP IN JOYTOKEY
It worked fine earlier. I closed my laptop and came back later and now it will not show up. I restarted 6 times disconnected, reconnected. Used some other program to try and make it work. I finally used BetterJoyForCemu and the L button and ZL dont work unless the right one is also connected but then when I connect the other one as well it dosent even work at all. It worked fine when I used it weeks ago, it worked fine when I used it yesterday, and now it wont work at all. What the fuck.

[Anonymous No.4239647]

>>4239432
yet you didnt link them?

[Anonymous No.4239717]

>>4239647
https://www.deviantart.com/iforce73/art/Environments-2-0-759523252
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5rtxBu6QNw

[Anonymous No.4239788]

>>4238623
Bro are you not using sai2? If not, then go get it. The autosave system there is so perfect that I literally don't even think about saving anymore. Even a sudden power outage now only gets an "oh ok" reaction out of me instead of breaking into a cold sweat like when I was still using CSP.

[Anonymous No.4239940]

>drawing with a Gnomon course in the background
>It's an illustrator doing Magic type stuff
>he does some thumbnails for a few hours then pics one
>redraws it bigger, it's really fucking good
>starts painting it with acrylic washes and oil
>hours later he has a great piece with a strong focal point
>"And that's the color sketch done, next we'll be moving to Photoshop"
>wtf?
>He redraws it again to have a sketch to scan in
>repaints it in PS from scratch, only using the oil piece as a color guide
>spends hours in the course just adding more and more detail fucking everywhere
>the end piece looks worse than the "color sketch"

[Anonymous No.4240147]

>>4239717
thank you

[Anonymous No.4240150]

>FINALLY end up getting MULTIPLE commissions
>Get flare ups that make it painful to draw
FUCK

[Anonymous No.4240157]

>>4239940
Post pics of the finished and the colored sketch? I'm interested.

[Anonymous No.4240179]

Since i started holidays Im feeling very insecure to try to do something more than trad sketches, some studies or small works on digital.
Im want to improve a lot of things on my technique but my insecurity is above of me. Pic from a study of a mannequin of mine, this is the most i can get.

[Anonymous No.4240630]

I goofed badly, I was washing old brushes in the bathroom with turpentine. Half an hour, all doors and windows closed.
I feel weak and have horrible headache, basically like I'm having a horrible hangover.

[Anonymous No.4240639]

>>4240630
Open the windows and doors and get out of the area for a while if you can

[Anonymous No.4240672]

>be 20 next year
>feels old already
I just felt like i cant seem to catch up on other people my age, they work so hard and look at me...im not ready to be 20 yet boohoo

[Anonymous No.4240676]

>18 and 19 yr olds complaining
Stay a kid forever and seethe into your 40s, or man up and get to work retards

[Anonymous No.4240756]

>thumb hurts
>wrists hurt
Is there no fix to this?
I barely grip my pen when I draw and write, keep my wrists straight, use my non-dominant hand for most non-technical stuff. And it still fucking hurts

Recently, my elbows' been hurting/popping too. I just don't know what to do anymore

[Anonymous No.4240891]

>>4240756
if it's cold there it could be that
drawing when it's cold is a bitch

[Anonymous No.4241000]

>account with nothing but shitting on antivaxxers liked and commented under my porn
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.4241110]

>>4241000
Just a brainless coomer. Ignore.

[Anonymous No.4241109]

>>4233880
Keep getting frustrated and stressed over my own inadequacy, to the point where i breakdown. I dont know or cant tell if im improving or not, I'm petrified by the thought that im just gonna be stuck being horrible and bland.

[Anonymous No.4241113]

>>4241109
Creativity shines once you develop the skill for it. Do you want it y/n

[Anonymous No.4241124]

>>4241113
Yes

[Anonymous No.4241179]

>>4233880
Im stressed about art school portfolios and ive been procrastinating on everything! im graduating but if i dont get into VCU i will cry!

[Anonymous No.4241195]

>I'm NEETing.
>Have all the time in the world to practice.
>Have all the tools.
>Have all the money.
>Fucking sperg. I can't draw my weeb shit when people are around.
>People are always around.
>Can't go anywhere else to draw.
>Can't draw late at night.

EXISTENCE IS PAIN.

[Anonymous No.4241201]

>>4241195
You're neeting but you don't have your own room with a lock and digital art set up? Pathetic

[Anonymous No.4241210]

>>4241201

I'm NEETing, not being a hikki, dammit.

I share room with my fucking brother. I could be drawing right now, but I fucking can't because the little shit won't go.

[Anonymous No.4241214]

>>4241210
Just because someone locks their room doesnt mean they're a hikki. I suggest practicing the fundies while others are around you. If you wait until you have privacy to draw big dick futa, then it will be really rough to make some sort of progress in a decent time span

[Anonymous No.4241253]

>>4241214

Yes, that's true. I should be doing that. If I really want to make it, that is.

Time to live despite being a fucking retard, I guess.

[Anonymous No.4241254]

Please stop unfollowing me I didn't do anything to you.
I feel like shit all the time and can't do anything. I ask myself why I started drawing and it's to
>enjoy being able to draw things I like
>make it big on social media
but it feels like those two can't coexist. I wish I didn't care about numbers. I wish I wasn't shit at art. I wish I'd never picked up a pencil in the first place.

[Anonymous No.4241414]

>>4239788
I can't afford it :(

[Anonymous No.4241424]

>>4241254
Make stuff you like to draw as well as things people like

[Anonymous No.4241427]

ic is filled with apple shills and I seriously hope people aren't actually falling for their sweet talks.
I know there are also wacom shills on here but they seem a lot less aggressive in their marketing

[Anonymous No.4241433]

>>4241424
>it’s that easy!

[Anonymous No.4241442]

>>4241433
He said they cant coexist. Im saying they can. I didnt say it was easy dummy.

[Anonymous No.4241560]

I hate nearly everything ive made. Or attempted to make, only twice have i made an something over 4 month that i truely felt slightly proud of even then it was full of flaws. All this emotional stirring, self flagellation, and time ive felt like i have invested and will invest just because i want to draw coomer shit.... I feel pathetic

[Anonymous No.4241854]

Getting better but still not where I want to be, also draw abs is hard

[Anonymous No.4241955]

I feel I've made ok progress this year, but as I started to take commissions, I began to slow down on practicing the fundies and other things. I used to sink 6 hours daily in drawing, but now I only do 2-4 a day when I still have so much to learn. When I have comms to work on, I feel less pressured to put out work faster. Hope I can grt more motivated again

[Anonymous No.4242176]

>>4241955
Nice booby picture

[Anonymous No.4242215]

>>4233880
i live my life alone
i never really had friends
i wanted to be an artist
parents are dumb niggers
two years in half to stop to work more
start drawing again plan and everything to improve i like being alone i work alone i draw best alone i feel like i can only be myself alone not even infront of my family im a whole different person around them i hardly speak more than a few words when spoken too never was close with parents family is practically a bunch of strangers
shit fucks up have to live in an apartment dad leaves
my whole 2k pc work area is shoved in a tiny apartment two rooms 5 people pc is in "living" room shits tiny everyone can watch me do anything its so fucking uncomfortable i physically am unable to draw while these people are awake i hate it so much i tried so hard to get used to it i cant ever feel comfortable enough to learn again

[Anonymous No.4242219]

>>4242215
Get a privacy screen to put on your monitor so only people in direct line of sight can see it. Seriously though you gotta leave when you can. 5 people 2 rooms sounds like absolute hell.

[Anonymous No.4242222]

>>4242215
i tried a lot
i got used to drawing at night and sleeping during the day its all i can really do but im too loud apparently and get complaints from my family all the time
they are dumb and ignorant insufferable niggers
I lived 20 years with these people and i still cant feel at ease with them
when no one is home it feels like a huge weight as been lifted but this is very rare and now my grandmother has entered this tiny hell hole and shes always awake at night sleeping next to my pc
making it near impossible to work at night
rent is too expensive where i live im still young i can afford to live on my own and actually draw id have to give up art to live alone
i dont have friends
i hate my life
i wish i never became an artist
i cant have fun with art anymore
i feel nothing
but its all i have i feel like its too late i cant move on knowing what could have been
2 years ago was so good
I felt like i could do anything
i wish i could go back

[Anonymous No.4242228]

>>4242219
i wish it was that easy, you know that feeling of being watched like your soul is ready to leave your body at any second like youre always ready to run away from danger
its like that just knowing someone is standing there sitting or talking

[Anonymous No.4242230]

>>4242215
Well that sounds rough

[Anonymous No.4242231]

I have a job recruitment phone call for scheduled for tomorrow
Big problems:

1) It's a phonecall - I am really anxious about phonecalls with strangers.
2) It's in English - not my native language and even though I am supposedly on 'advanced' level, still scared about fluffing sentences, cause I don't talk in English like ever, only write.
3) I barely understand what the company does or what the position is.
4) This is my first job-related interview
5) I really really don't want to actually have a job
6) I really don't care about this but I am doing it cause mom told me to (my dream is to make money from art but I need sth for now)

[Anonymous No.4242234]

>>4233880
Hard truth: some people have an easier time understanding perspective or drawing smoothly.
If you don't, I don't think it's a good idea to pursue drawing as a side business or even as a hobby.
You're not a blank state, you do not become everything you want to be. You have aspirations and natural inclinations, and you should take advantage of them, not waste your time on things you are clearly not made for.

I find myself often wanting to say this in the /beg/ thread from time to time, but desu I'm scared it would hurt ppl, but honestly it would be the right thing to do.

[Anonymous No.4242253]

>>4242215
why are you living with them you leech? boo hoo, go to a library, draw on paper, or just admit that you'll do anything not to draw

[Anonymous No.4242259]

>>4241254
Don't worry about people unfollowing, most time it's just suspended accounts

[Anonymous No.4242338]

>>4240756
Could be lack of sleep.
If you are injured theres nothing you can do other than rest it as much as needed.
Take breaks from drawing at least every 30 mins. If it's really bad you will need to take breaks like every 5 mins

[Anonymous No.4242361]

>mutuals with some artist
>she's only 15/16, art is pretty good for her age and has an interesting style
>pretty chill and talk occasionally, mainly just like/RT each other's art
>she slowly starts to RT more SJWy and far-left posts
>slowly most of her twitter becomes nothing but retarded "PSAs" and gross tumblr art
>tempted to mute her because that's all i'm starting to fucking see, but forget it eventually
>few months later realise i haven't seen her around in a while
>check her twitter
>she softblocked and unfollowed me
>full-blown SJW, calling herself "they/them" and everything
>art is losing quality and becoming a boring tumblr style
>most of it is LGBT shit
kind of sad how many times i've seen this happen to young artists now, i almost fell into it when i was 15 but got out of that shit fast. of course, she's also a massive homestuck fan and that's what pulled her into this. i am kind of surprised she softblocked though, i don't RT anything political, guess she got assmad at the few minorly controversial posts i've liked or something

[Anonymous No.4242610]

>twitter artist with a link to pixiv in the description
>pixiv.net/member.php?id= …

[Anonymous No.4242625]

>>4242361
>>4242361
What the heck is soft blocked lol
Anyway the redflag was her age and attention seeking. Woulda ghosted and muted her ass from the start. I used to follow some french artists on twitter, because when I was a brand new account, I'd follow back to try and be friendly. God they were awful

[Anonymous No.4242684]

>>4242625
>french
God I hate the French.
>Hon hon hon, I smoke cigarettes and wipe my butthole with a garden hose. Hon hon hon

[Anonymous No.4242685]

>>4242253
I still have a job
I still pay bills
I dont have anywhere else to go
I tried to leave with my dad but they wouldnt let me he doesnt care about me anyways
drawing on paper doesnt change anything read my posts
and my library is crowded it doesnt make a difference
I try to draw at work
I delete and blocked all games and steam I've eliminated every distraction just so I can draw more
I havent been on this site for ages bc I wanted to get rid of the distraction
to say I dont want to draw, I cant help but to feel insulted
maybe you live such a different life that you can not understand how this feels and I dont think you ever will
but what can I know

[Anonymous No.4242703]

>>4233880
How do I cope with quitting? I can't stop thinking about my stories and characters, but when I pick up a pencil I get dizzy and sweaty and feel sick.

[Anonymous No.4242819]

>>4238499
Are you me? I took Graphic Design 3 years ago and graduated, but only been able to get one job since.

[Anonymous No.4242823]

>>4242819
Looks like somebody learned how useless art degrees are. Enjoy your debt. Try networking more to get jobs.

[Anonymous No.4242838]

Posted this in another thread but I think it belongs here. I want to know if anyone here has had this problem and what made them stop.

>Haven't completed any commissions despite there being a demand
>The one time I accepted a comm, I quit halfway and gave the dude the unfinished piece for free, because I knew at that point that I didn't have the ability to meet my own quality/skill standards
>Reluctant to post sketches or finished works because I feel like I'd be offending my followers by my lack of skill/any mistakes that might be in the piece
>Spend around half an hour retyping the same sentence before making any post on twitter, trying to word it in a way that I don't seem proud or full of myself
>Resent other artists whose art is slightly worse than mine, but are still more successful than me because they have the ego necessary to put their stuff out there
>Feel like posting my work is only warranted if I achieve rembrandt level mastery of all aspects of my art

How do I stop this self sabotaging pathetic behavior. I post my stuff here all the time without a problem, but since a month or two ago I feel ashamed of posting anything to my blogs

[Anonymous No.4242844]

>>4242610
What's wrong with it?

[Anonymous No.4242848]

>>4242823
I went to a community college and got in for free with a scholarship.

But yeah I agree with everything else.

[Anonymous No.4242883]

I'm not sure what to do anymore. I've become extremely angry at how fucking boring and mediocre my work is; I fail to execute the plethora of ideas in my head constantly. It's nearly all my fault for being lazy and stupid as fuck.
I don't know what to do, I was guessing maybe starting over and try studying properly but I'm not sure if my easily-bored toddler mentality would be able to handle it. I'm no good at anything else and don't really have any other hobbies besides drawing and web surfing so if I give up art completely it'll be like suicide for me.

[Anonymous No.4242885]

>decided at 19 I would try to git gud and make it.
>27 now and still haven't made it.

Looks like if you don't have something going for you by the time you're 22-24, you're pretty well fucked.

It's degrading that every artist I follow is younger than me.

I feel older everyday.

[Anonymous No.4242891]

Funny how I've got this surge of motivation to draw when I've got a feeling of comradery with some rando for it to just slowly and painfully deteriorate into a slog with loads of self deprecation to sweeten things even more.

I wonder how full of a shit I really am to have some bullshit idea that I have a desire to motivate people with my art or create cool things when all I do in life is revolving around subtly stroking my ego by making myself some sort of saintly sacrifice hoping that that will somehow manipulate people into liking me.

I haven't matured a single fucking bit.

[Anonymous No.4242921]

>>4242819
At the time the graphic design bubble burst, too many people and not enough jobs. Found out the hard way that a degree doesn’t mean talent. A lot of fellow classmates never got into the field or went into literal workhouses and earned shit. I originally wanted to get into 3D and that dream was busted bad cause I couldn’t get my head around it fast enough. Couldn’t code for my life and I left. School ruined a lot of my creativity which I’m slowly building back. Do what you like to do, not what others think should be good for you to do. That’s the mind fuck and you’re programmed to need everyone’s approval and can’t trust your own damn judgement.

[Anonymous No.4242924]

>>4242921
A art career is not for the shy. Unless you can Thomas Kinkade your shit, no one cares.

[Anonymous No.4242930]

>>4242883
Not being a crab here but pyw please so I can see, and tell me what stuff you're having trouble with?

[Anonymous No.4243002]

fuck

[Anonymous No.4243030]

>>4242891
Why not just drop the bit about making people like you? I'd say it should happen naturally with being outgoing, but I know all too well how poorly well meant things can go. Either way, just let go and carry on. I genuinely appreciate artists/people like you, and I know how it can go hand in hand with a bitter view of the world. But it's essential to really help people to drop your ego right where it belongs- in the trash.

[Anonymous No.4243032]

>>4243002
Gigazyzz

[Anonymous No.4243033]

>>4233919
bolth

[Anonymous No.4243591]

>>4233880
reading killed my art gains.
been drawing daily for months now I didnt draw at all for +10 days :(

[Anonymous No.4243608]

I've been trying to draw something for 2 hours now.
Every time I make an attempt I get angry, and this has now disrupted me enough that I can't even think about drawing without getting furious.

I just don't know what to do, some days are like this and I know it's something I'll have to grow out of because I'll never get anywhere in life if I just get angry and hulk smash things

[Anonymous No.4243659]

>>4243608
Are you using reference?

[Anonymous No.4243681]

>>4243659
No since I haven't found any reference for this particular situation (although I know 100% it exists, it's not exactly original)
I know I should be using reference but I just wanted to jot down the general scene on paper but I can't even do that. I gave up and decided I'll just go to bed and come back to it some other day instead.

[Anonymous No.4243684]

>>4243681
You absolutely need some kind of reference or you will be holding yourself back

[Anonymous No.4243720]

Help

I've been working on a project on and off with someone for over a year now
Its now finally finished and just as I've presumed, I hate it
Its not terrible, but it didn't achieve what it was meant to do. It was meant to be beautiful, but it is really quite jarring and confusing to look at at times.

I believe it was both our faults and also just not a solid idea to begin with.

I have been procrastinating emailing them back about it and I don't want to give the impression at all that I hate it - but I'm getting so anxious imagining trying to fake my feelings for it.
To be fair, I think part of the reason why I hate it is because I am very critical and hate most of the work I do for clients

[Anonymous No.4243725]

>>4243720
Deal with it. Clean your edges up or whatever polish it needs. Deliver it. Be done with it.

That client has been waiting on you now let them have what they paid for. It doesn't matter what you think of it or how you feel about it. Does your client like it? Then it's good enough.

Learn for next time. Let this shit go and just learn from your mistakes. Be glad it's over.

[Anonymous No.4243774]

>>4243725
>What they paid for

The fact is, they paid me a lot- but the work I did was also, a lot. And they asked me for a ton of revisions. I ended up working for less in the end. I can't put anymore free time into this. Also, I think in some ways my client has bad taste and thats why its not working out as well- or maybe we just have differing tastes.

I think my client likes it, they certainly aren't trying to be like "Hey look it looks like shit, don't you think?" they seem satisfied with it.

[Anonymous No.4243778]

>>4243720
Have you been showing them wips or what? If they like it, who cares. Work cant always go perfect

[Anonymous No.4243779]

>>4243774
Then be glad that's done.

Also you really need to be writing it into your contracts that you'll allow a certain number of revisions before you start charging extra for all the extra revisions to make up for the time you're wasting. Doing this makes clients really think hard about whether they want to spend a revision on something stupid because it's going to cost them.

[Anonymous No.4243901]

>>4242844
pixiv.net/member.php?id= … is the whole link, anon.

[Anonymous No.4243917]

>>4242610
>>4243901
What are you even saying retard

[Anonymous No.4243942]

>>4238959
This is the fun of life.

[Anonymous No.4243955]

>>4242838
Get away from Twitter, take some time to study privately, get yourself up to the point where you can be proud for awhile. Then when you get back try and network with the shitty popular artists because their followers will see your better shit.

[Anonymous No.4243972]

>opened commissions cheap because I felt I'm not too good
>give it my all for commission quality
>improved a bit and now people always tell me I'm under charging
>get a few returning clients pretty much all the time
>don't want to just flip the price on them
>never get tipped
>friend always brings up being tipped and her prices are far higher when her art isn't that far ahead of mine
Shit sucks. I would've changed prices already if I were in demand but I'm not either

[Anonymous No.4243976]

>>4243955
I haven't actually checked or posted anything publicly in a few weeks (what's more, I recently apologized for my absence and said I'd post more often). I spent some of that time just studying and whatnot like you suggested, but the big problem is I can't be proud of my art if it's not as good as that of people who've been doing this for years, and at the same time I need to put stuff out so that people don't completely lose interest in me.
Despite being the type of person who cares about follower count, that's not really the problem in this instance. If I needed to network I could; the issue is I don't feel my stuff should be seen by others unless it's as good as some of the better artists out there, so if it's not then I have to be really apologetic in the way that I show it to people.

[Anonymous No.4244013]

>>4243972
Change them anyways, idiot. Tell your return customers that you have to pay bills and that's no way to make a living at those wages.

[Anonymous No.4244042]

>>4242625
she wasn't anything remotely like that when i met her, was genuinely pretty chill and nice to talk to. i like supporting young artists as well. would've muted her at the very least at some point but i guess she got around to softblocking me first
>What the heck is soft blocked lol
force unfollow basically. they block you and then unblock you which makes you unfollow them automatically

[Anonymous No.4244049]

>>4244013
I dunno m8. I also fear of raising it to an undesirable price, resulting in less clients and potentially turning away my current people. I did at least raise how much I charge for spare characters.. Early next year I'll be sure to change it completely I suppose
>>4244042
I suggest you focus mostly on yourself as an artist. Being so webbed with the internet now, I learned that it's not worth putting your heart out to others if they won't to you. Seeing your original post though, you don't seem bothered about the whole situation much at all which is good
I'm often around people who cry about drawing and end up not doing so just to be lazy, they complain every single day. I just ignore it now instead of trying to encourage them.

[Anonymous No.4244076]

>>4239526
>pic
kek

[Anonymous No.4244088]

>>4244049
Clients actually get scared away by too cheap prices. It means you do not have any self worth and if you value your art so low, then why would they?

Price is about the time you've been studying to get to this point. The materials, the programs, the equipment. The value of your work. How valuable is it? If your friend is charging more even though you are at similar skill levels, then that means people feel they are getting more value with your friend.

You're the cheap artist. Yeah you get some consistent customers but they're taking advantage of you. So that's great. better to just raise the prices on them and if they complain say sorry gotta live gotta eat.

[Anonymous No.4244118]

>>4244049
i would say the people who are commissioning art in general have some disposable income and aren't living paycheck to paycheck, thus are less likely to complain about, say, a 10% price hike in anything

[Anonymous No.4244121]

>>4244049
yeah, i'm not really that bothered by it, it's not like we were particularly close friends or anything. just kind of a shame that i've seen this happen so often to younger artists now

[Anonymous No.4244175]

>>4234950
There are no “shoulds” in drawing. You don’t have to draw an amazing piece each time. If you aren’t inspired to make something polished, draw for fun, draw bad stuff, just draw. It’s like going to the gym for 30 minutes instead of 2 hours. It’s still better than not doing it at all.

[Anonymous No.4244187]

>>4241414
Two days late, but http://www.mediafire.com/file/uda37qrblrq25o5/SAI_2.0_%252864bit%2529.zip/file
This was shared by an anon in a thread from a week or two ago.

[Anonymous No.4244190]

>>4242885
What are you doing now? I did the same, but I at least got somewhere.

[Anonymous No.4244197]

>>4242885
I have a feeling you're /beg/ level and you're bad at networking

[Anonymous No.4244214]

I genuinely can't stop masturbating to big-dick straight-shota, even fapping to other stuff isn't nearly as good
It's especially in scenes where the boy gets overwhelmed by multiple women, and they're left gasping after sex


I don't even know where I developed this from, I'm big down there but I was anything but a cute shota, having grown a full beard by 7th grade.
If I play it right I can orgasm for almost a minute and fry my brain in the process. It's literally more addictive than nicotine.

NoFap only made it worse too, it was just an average fetish before but now it's just something else

[Anonymous No.4244260]

>>4233880
Used to always finish stuff and never study
now i study all the time and feel i'm never good enough to finish stuff
fuck me

[Anonymous No.4244382]

>trying to remember some artwork I'd seen
>a squarish figure in an upward shot, maybe a horikoshi sketch...
>my imagination drawing skills are too shit to just recreate the pose
It's so frustrating trying to grasp these little wisps of mental imagery and not being able to do anything as they fade away

[Anonymous No.4244389]

>>4233880
I've surpassed my best friend, who even got me into art.

This is more melancholic because over the years while I've overcome the frustration with it, he never did. While I can muscle through an art block, he refuses. I say he "refuses" because any method I tell him to try out he immediately says "I'm not that kind of guy, it won't work for me."

I've been doing this dance with him for over 5 years now and he's decided to officially quit art, and pretty much just sit around and play video games all day. I honestly was relieved by that, but he still complains about how he wishes he could feel inspired by stuff the way he used to and whatnot.

>it's depression
I know it is, and this fucker refuses literally any help you try to give him. Almost all of his depression stems from how goddamn stubborn he is, and how he won't even LET himself do anything to perk himself up because "he's not that kind of guy" or "that just won't work for me(before he even tries)" and if he does do it, it's a half-assed attempt designed to fail so he can say he was right.

[Anonymous No.4244393]

>>4244389
and yes, both of those answers were given when we suggested he get therapy, even in the interest of getting antidepressants.

[Anonymous No.4244459]

>>4243972
>>4244013
I'm sorry if I'm being denser than a plum duff, but what do you mean returning clients? What exactly is it you create for them?
I just can't wrap my head around it - I understand owning/supporting a piece of the 'artist' - but there must be more to it than that?

[Anonymous No.4244634]

Whenever I'm trying to show up and practice my fundamentals I'm faced with fear. I dunnu why, in my head i don't expect anything because i'm a beg and i know i will make tons of mistakes.
yet I fear starting, i fear doing gestures, boxes, whatever. Even tho i did it 1000 time already i'm still afraid of the result.
Some days the fear will stop me from drawing completely i won't touch a pencil or my tablet.
I don't expect anything from myself yet my subconscious has a lot of expectations, to somehow magically improve within hours or tomorrow i will become a pro.
Sometimes the fear become physical i can literally feel pain in my chest. I had these problems when i was younger but didn't pay them any attention.
I know this may sound as a cheap excuse to not draw, but i really feel this is why i want to escape into other things than drawing, video games, watching videos all day.
i appreciate any help you can give me, Thank you.
Sorry for my English :>

[Anonymous No.4244640]

I can never stick with anything. I'm always quick to be inspired to try something new; whether it be drawing, writing, music, or something else. Yet, no matter how strong my desire to do well is, I can never focus on anything for longer than 5 minutes without losing focus or interest. I'm also incredibly indecisive in general. I can never just pick one thing. I feel the need to create but I know deep down I have nothing to say or show. I'm incredibly boring at best, and a worthless piece of shit at worst. I want to die, but I'm too scared of death and the afterlife to do anything about it.

[Anonymous No.4244646]

>>4244049
>complain about drawing

God I feel like that's me, I like to think im self aware enough to notice when I'm being needy like that but it took me a while this time. I should just not talk to my artist friend until I'm less of a faggot.

[Anonymous No.4244813]

>>4244459
Clients come back to have me draw more lewd anime girls again, that's all

[Anonymous No.4244898]

>>4244813
All art is porn, or is all porn art?

[Anonymous No.4244903]

>>4244634
Yeah I'm with you. There's a lot of doubt with the process, and I'm always hung up on whether I'm really learning something or just fucking around. I'm always on edge and I start getting paranoid when I don't feel like I'm learning anything.

[Anonymous No.4244964]

>>4234920
Mirror each layer back and forth as you draw. If you keep switching sides you might get better at seeing the asymmetry before it takes a lot of work to fix.

[Anonymous No.4244966]

>>4234941
You'll always be somebody to me Anon.

[Anonymous No.4244977]

>>4237378
Get a camerabro, get them to take photos of you jumping around in all those dynamic poses, then sit down and draw.

[Anonymous No.4244984]

>>4239526
If it is on a rough pass and not the finished product, this is an okay tool in a pinch. Finished frames that aren't auto-tweened do look better redrawn though.

[Anonymous No.4244990]

>>4241000
It means you have an intelligent fanbase. Also, link to the porn?

[Anonymous No.4245011]

before drawing
>used to think artist retweeting their own work they did only a few days ago is cringe
fast forward to today
>the piece that I finished with high enthusiasm is getting way less (You)s than usual
>now fighting the urge to retweet my own shit because I don't want to be a hypocrite

karma's a bitch tbqh, I will never take (You)s for granted ever again.

[Anonymous No.4245055]

I cant seem to get out of my comfort zone some how, i just kept drawing cute girls and that's it...cant push myself to do any studies or anything else. What is wrong with me?

[Anonymous No.4245058]

>4245011
Just retweet u idiot

[Anonymous No.4245698]

>>4233880
>Try digital painting for the first time in forever
>Spend more time fiddling around with settings than actually drawing
>Suddenly start feeling anxious
>Anxiety turns to frustration
>Frustration turns to foaming fury
>Violently press and drag my stylus across the screen
>Wear down the nib
>Tablet somehow still works
>Close out with nothing accomplished or made
Why is it so stress-inducing? What am I doing wrong? Any advice?

[Anonymous No.4245730]

>Put steady amount of practice
>Don't feel like I've improved
>Dissapointed with the results
>The only consistent thing is the realization that I need to improve more virtually every single aspect of art while my progress is non existant

[Anonymous No.4246101]

>Artists are becoming more and more expensive to commission
>I commission art for fun and because some artists make cool pieces
>Gonna pick up drawing this month and continue into next year

All things gotta end. Time to learn how to draw anime tiddies

[Anonymous No.4246121]

>>4246101
You're in for a painful ride

[Anonymous No.4246128]

>>4246101
>Gonna pick up drawing this month and continue into next year

I had the same thought as you around 5 something years ago and it's only recently that I got to a point where I can COOM to my own work.

It's a very painful and testing journey and obviously I am still very far from "decent", just keep in mind that when you finally reach a point that you knew you can draw anything you want, this knowledge will become one of the most empowering things you will ever experience in your life.

[Anonymous No.4246130]

>can spend 6 hours drawing one day, satisfied with the result
>next day, pick up a pencil and nothing but scribbles come out
>can't figure out how to do a simple value break down of a reference image
>mind empty, literally can't draw
What the fuck is wrong with my brain?

[Anonymous No.4246238]

>>How To Learn Perspective
>Just buy my course :^)
what a bunch of faggots

[Anonymous No.4246257]

>>4246238
>Just go to rutracker and torrent the 123draw marshall perspective course ;)
ftfy

[Anonymous No.4246266]

I struggle to draw anything original.
Because I can't have fun drawing. Because if I have fun drawing I might make a mistake.
To avoid a mistake I need references. But I'm too afraid to deviating from the reference so it ends up as a study. I'm afraid of combining references because I might not see a mistake.
Rinse and repeat.
I let fear hold me back too strongly. I don't know how to break the cycle.
I don't know how to have fun anymore.

[Anonymous No.4246275]

>>4246257
Of course I'd do that, it's just baiting/misleading people into watching their shitty podcast is what pisses me off.

For that matter, I've never heard anything useful on it. And most of the episodes are just used to advertise shit.

>>4246266
why are you so afraid of making mistakes? Don't want to disappoint yourself?
Take the pressure off yourself and don't post it online, let it be something for your benefit

[Anonymous No.4246281]

>>4246266
You can't learn without making a mistake first, be brave and try to force the reference to work for you, if you can tell that you are making a mistake that means you are capable of improving.

[Anonymous No.4246352]

>computer overheats and dies again

[Anonymous No.4246397]

>>4246352
Update: again

[Anonymous No.4246406]

>>4246352
>>4246397
buy a new computer and avoid laptops if possible
if you are too poor/retarded to get a desktop, at the very least get a cooling pad and don't let your laptop run 24/7.

[Anonymous No.4246420]

>>4246352
May just need to clean the inside of your computer, remove the dust from inside the case

[Anonymous No.4246422]

>>4246420
This and if your cpu uses a fan to cool off dont forget to clean it.

[Anonymous No.4246447]

One of my favorite artist who's style help inspire me. I would say my art is was influenced by them and I know their art is heavily influenced by another artist. So I know my art was indirectly influence by ______. But it was mostly the shading and stylized they did that made me like it more.
They're gone, they nuked almost all of their online presence. The only bits I found are from other people posting their art. I haven't thought about them in years and I came across a old drawing I did ripping them off.
It feels sad, someone I looked up to quit. I might go back to drawing like that, now especially if they're gone. I feel bad that I don't know when they had quit especially since I used to cyberstalk them.

[Anonymous No.4246463]

i just want to make gay furry porn for a living
idgaf about the fundamentals

[Anonymous No.4246484]

>>4244121
Doing art is almost always an inherent liberal/democrat thing nowadays. Unless you have strong beliefs contrary to liberals or have two working brain-cells to know what their saying doesn't make sense, your going to get sucked into that type of thing, especially teens. Thats why I don't talk to alot of art types because they're usually teenage retards that repeat sjw rhetoric.

[Anonymous No.4246525]

>actually have some skill at last
>have no ideas worth executing or drawing in the first place anymore
>can only grind and do exercises
why god

[Anonymous No.4246540]

>>4246525
Look up art prompt generators

[Anonymous No.4246563]

>>4244214
But what does that have to do with your art?

[Anonymous No.4246576]

>>4246525
Drawthreads

[Anonymous No.4246589]

>>4246540
>>4246576

Well, yeah, but I mean... What about when I want to be TRULY original and creative? there's no emotion or expression behind drawing arbitrarily chosen subjects.

[Anonymous No.4246621]

>>4246589
Do you want to draw or what

[Anonymous No.4246624]

>>4246238
The later episodes have been going down the drain

[Anonymous No.4246627]

>>4246589
Expression and creativity come from within. How can you truly express anything given to you? What do you want to express? If you're empty then head on over to illustration and just draw what you're told.

[Anonymous No.4246651]

>>4246525
>>4246589
Look m8. It can't always be about (You). You need to grind things you don't want to grind, unless you have an unlimited tap of creativity, which you obviously don't. Personally, I have a drawing rotation.
Clout drawing, drawing for fun, then fundies practice. Commissions go between and take priority

[Anonymous No.4246728]

>>4245730
It's all about small steps. Focus on improving, the best with someone experienced to guide you, if you're working hard every day, months and years will pass and you'll notice significant progress. What can I tell you, it gets more entertaining when you get somewhat proficient and after learning basics you enjoy the process even more. Good luck!
>>4244634
Go to a class, it'll force you to draw, or set up drawing sessions with friends, ask someone to pose etc. Just do it as much as you can to face your great and realize it's irrational.
>>4244389
He seems to like pitying himself and moping around, I don't think you can do anything about it, he has to man up on his own and understand that he's responsible for his own happiness. Stop wasting any more time on him, sounds like energy drain.
My only vent is that my hand hurts from working for hours. I have some temporal frustrations during various works or parts of work but I learned to chill out and come back to problems with fresh head and relaxed attitude, I'd recommend this to everyone. Also don't be too harsh on yourself, accept the level you're currently on and think how to improve it.

[Anonymous No.4246731]

Spent my life watching family and friends gift my sibling art supplies and teaching. I wasn't allowed creativity, it wasn't the role chosen for me.

I'm in control of my life now but this mentality is still here. Nothing makes me happy, the only thing I want is to create art. I'm paralyzed by the way I was raised as a child, anything I create I end up destroying. Deleting digital files, burning sketchbook pages. I haven't tried again since the last purge.

So in short, I'm a whiny adult who can't get over my past.

[Anonymous No.4246735]

>>4246651
sir, i don't mind grinding. I'm just upset that all the creativity I had when I first started this is gone. I want to get it back.

[Anonymous No.4246750]

>>4246589
Then you need to get some emotions and express them. Read a book and draw a scene you thought was powerful. I can't handhold you throw being creative. I can only suggest so much to you amd if you shoot everything down and don't even want to try exercises to get the creativity flowing, it just sounds like you want to make excuses to be lazy.

You can try or you can be an ngmi faggot. It's up to you.

[Anonymous No.4246753]

>>4246731
How old are you? Why were things this way? Find a supporter, online or a friend to encourage you a bit. Maybe some class or drawing meeting.
>>4246735
Iktf bro. It's just a burnout, you have to relax, look at your favorite artists, think what inspired you before, maybe go back to your favorite media, places, books. Take a look back at works you enjoyed doing most and try to reverse engineer what brought you joy. Inspiration is like a sine wave to me, in worse times I just focus on technicalities and let thoughts stir in my brain, soon enough something will light a spark.

[Anonymous No.4246769]

>>4246753
I'm in my early 20s, my family wanted me to be a STEM prodigy but severe mental illness ruined that. Finding a good friend or art community sounds like a good idea, thank you.

[Anonymous No.4246778]

>>4236186
Kurwa? Just burn your old sketches for warmth, if you're drawing 18 hours a day you'll have plenty of fuel

[Anonymous No.4246797]

Not exactly /vent/ but what the fuck is this supposed to even be?
>>/ic/thread/2774207#p2774298

[Anonymous No.4246799]

I've been drawing since I was young, and I really want to improve, but I don't know how. I think my art is awful, and that I can't do anything right when I draw. Just a few weeks ago, I threw away all of my old drawings out of frustration.
I have been told to use reference to improve, but the problem is that I have no fucking clue on how to use reference. Like, I look at a picture, and it's hard for me to copy it or understand what I'm looking at because my coordination is bad and something will always come out wonky when I draw from reference. I get frustrated and give up when things don't look perfect.

I think that I'm stuck, and that no matter what I do, I will always be a shitty artist. It's hard for me to complete drawings, or hell, draw stuff that I like because it never comes out good in my eyes, and in the end, I just erase what I do.
At this point, I think I'm as bad as those DeviantArt artists you see, and it makes me even more frustrated that most people my age are super good and much better at art than me.

[Anonymous No.4246803]

>>4246799
you are definetly too stupid for drawing anon, try playing bing bing wahoo games maybe.

[Anonymous No.4246812]

>>4246799
Your problem is that you're doing nothing but copy, you need to learn how to break down and analyze the figure into basic forms and shape and utilize construction to help you define form and illustrate a figure proportional to what we recognize as a person. It is a matter of observing rather than mindless copying.

>>4246803
post your work faggot.

[Anonymous No.4246815]

>>4246812
>he's mad

[Anonymous No.4246824]

How do I stop getting so nervous when uploading stuff?
My hands get all shaky and I triple check every single bit of my drawing. Fuck.

[Anonymous No.4246826]

>4246815
Just as I thought, you're nothing but an attention whore being a little slut for them (you)s. You're not getting any until you show us the piece you're working on right now so put up or remain being an eternal faggot.

[Anonymous No.4246829]

95% of you here are dumb as fuck and delusional.

[Anonymous No.4246845]

>>4246829
pyw

[Anonymous No.4246851]

i dont even know if i want to do art anymore. there are times i enjoy it, but there are times i literally want to kill myself because of it. ive spent (or wasted, depending on how i feel) so many years of my life doing it. i used to draw literally every day, but for the past year or so, only about once a week. i usually get fed up after less than an hour and quit, with no progress or anything actually made. it feels really hopeless at times, and i often consider just dropping it as a hobby/skill.

then i watch an animated movie or see some awesome art that suddenly makes me go "fuck i need to start drawing for real again." i dont even want to call it inspiration or motivation, more like a feeling of obligation. i really would love nothing more than to enjoy art and to actually PROGRESS but the moment i start, i immediately feel discouraged, drained, and like ill never ever improve. i dont know if im just lazy or genuinely dont enjoy it anymore. i want to like it, and sometimes i sorta do, but man... that spark i once had is just fucking depleted, it seems. at the same time, i cant imagine a life without doing it. i probably have some mental issues fuck

[Anonymous No.4246854]

>>4246851
You have to understand it's most likely not drawing what is stressing you out, but something else. Otherwise you would have stopped long ago.

[Anonymous No.4246895]

>>4246854
thanks, i hope thats the case. i am pretty stressed with college and life shit for a long time now. unfortunately i cant make the source of it stop for another two or so years.

[Anonymous No.4246917]

>>4246812
hmmm, I'll try to see what I can do to break pictures down. Thank you for telling me that, it never occurred to me since nobody I know breaks down pictures into basic forms, they usually just copy directly from what they see.

[Anonymous No.4247006]

>>4246845
thanks for the (You) retard

[Anonymous No.4247077]

>>4246750
i think you need to shut up. you are a nobody

[Anonymous No.4247079]

>>4233880
>frequently randomly forget how to draw and can spend days at a time producing absolute shit at a skill level I hadn't been at in years before snapping back to normal

Does this happen to anyone else or is this just ADD fuckery? I fucking hate it.

[Anonymous No.4247165]

Anyone else draw the same character a good amount and notice you can't keep their anatomy consistent? Does that kind of thing really stand out that much?

[Anonymous No.4247240]

I want to keep getting better at drawing but theres this constant nagging fear in my mind because im an autismo. Theres something about the 'just draw' meme that irks me. If i 'just draw' i feel like im going to keep making the same mistakes over and over and over again stuck in a vicious cycle of the definition of insanity. At times the fear gets so bad that im hesitant to draw because im terrified im just going to end up just repeating the cycle and not improve and remain stagnant while others are running repeated laps around me while im failing to just to get over the first hurdle. It gets extremely discouraging...

[Anonymous No.4247288]

I forgot how to draw. I haven't drawn in 3 1/2 years and I'm fucking back at square one. I wasn't even good to begin with and everything I try to draw now is repulsive.
Drawing terrifies me but the thought of NGMI terrifies me more. I don't want to die having never made it. Please god let me somehow stop being a coward and open up that sketchbook

[Anonymous No.4247292]

>>4247288
>3 1/2 years and he's still afraid
How did you not get over that in the first year?

[Anonymous No.4247309]

>>4247288
lets go anon
the best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago, the second best time is right now
you either start today and don't stop or you live with those feelings of being terrified til you eventually do start, so it might as well be today

[Anonymous No.4247381]

>lowest effort shit gets more likes than F U L L Y rendered art
I hate social media so damn much

[Anonymous No.4247388]

>>4246797
Poor artist.

[Anonymous No.4247398]

>>4246797
What it is is somewhere I've been, a good example against not dwelling in the negative, even if it's a vent/cope.

[Anonymous No.4247540]

Fellow ADHD bros, how do you deal with days when your attention span really goes to shit?
Some days I can clearly visualize things and draw for hours. On other days, I start a brush stroke and forget what I was doing by the end of it.
It's driving me nuts.

[Anonymous No.4247616]

>>4247540
Go along for the ride. Do better when you can. Think nothing of it.

[Anonymous No.4248143]

>>4233880
My pen is messed up and I'd have to do clean lines with mouse reeeeeeeeeee

[Anonymous No.4248369]

>Friend wants learn how to draw a certain species from a video game
>They have small bodies and weird proportions because they intend to be children in game but plenty of artists take creative liberties to stylise them in acceptable ways
>He often complains about artists not drawing on model art
>He shows me some porn he drew of said species
>It looks like fucking toddlercon
>Beg him to study real human anatomy for at least 15 minutes a day then use what he learned to exaggerate the proportions
>Explain that if he doesn't want to get lynched by people, he'd just have to accept that you'd need to make some changes
>Show him a website full of pose refs made just for artists
>Even show him the options where you can toggle the clothing on and off
>"Ew, I can't look at these real humans, sorry"

What the fuck what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck

[Anonymous No.4249088]

>tfw artist friend of mine I really respect tells me he hates my stuff since it’s mostly fan art
Feels terrible man

[Anonymous No.4249263]

>>4247309
Thank you senpai, this actually gave me the nerve to pick up the pencil again. I'm saving your post for the tough times ahead, as I'll need them
Again, thanks

[Anonymous No.4249349]

I'm so tired of all the people in my surroundings and dating is a fucking nightmare.

[Anonymous No.4249352]

>>4247540
>>4247616
I've been in this cycle for a bit and the only thing I have to remember to do is to go back to drawing even if it is the stuff where I can only make small doodles over and over again. This way I can at least practice the stroke or something.

[Anonymous No.4249428]

>>4247381
Normies only care about liking the latest hip fanart from the “established” artist, they have no interest in exploring interesting styles