/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4232280]

Remember, even if you do attain skills, you're still in for pain and suffering.

[Anonymous No.4232345]

I like his drawings but I don't like fishing for pity

[Anonymous No.4232346]

>>4232280
>OP talking like skills are a definite one time thing and not a range
Pain and suffering will always be present, without it creation is impossible. Creation from happiness and love? Never heard of such a thing.

[Anonymous No.4232369]

bruh if this mf can't make it how the fuck do we have a chance

[Anonymous No.4232374]

>>4232280

Didn't stop me.

[Anonymous No.4232376]

>>4232280
>All that fanart
>no evidence he's ever worked on an actual project from a quick glance over
>inconsistent art style and whiny complainers attitude
>probably hasn't tried to network at all
>why am I not getting hired?
Art industry is all about sucking ass and making others lives as easy as possible.

[Anonymous No.4232406]

>>4232280
Jesus Christ this is demotivating, he is better than I even set my mid to long term goals to. Guess I'll forever stay a hobbyist. His biggest weakness seems to be drawing women so maybe that's why? I hope that's why.

[Anonymous No.4232409]

>>4232374
Ow.

[Anonymous No.4232412]

>>4232280
That's not true! There's an infinitesimally small chance that I'll blow up, get fat stacks for a short while, and then be able to retired for the rest of my life.

[Anonymous No.4232419]

>>4232409

Imagine sitting on the couch, your hand wrapped in gauze, feeling like it's periodically being dipped in an invisible vat of hot oil.

[Anonymous No.4232427]

>>4232374
I guess you failed no nut november.

[Anonymous No.4232429]

>>4232280
>Western cartoon trash
>depressed and suicidal
>mentally ill

lol

[Anonymous No.4232432]

>>4232280
wtf! i give up!

[Anonymous No.4232436]

>>4232429
pyw. No way you are better than this guy.

[Anonymous No.4232443]

>have a stable and satisfying career
>draw as a hobby
this is how you do it

[Anonymous No.4232444]

>>4232376
>>All that fanart
>>no evidence he's ever worked on an actual project from a quick glance over
Just came here to post this.

Being good is good, but you have to be 10 times better if you want to compete solely on a popularity basis and no projects.

[Anonymous No.4232445]

how can people that have something be depressed? i earned my depression, shit at art, shit at programming, shit at school, no friends, no job, etc.

[Anonymous No.4232451]

>>4232444
>you need to have done projects to get hired for projects

[Anonymous No.4232452]

>>4232445
What makes you think he has something? His art is apparently unsuccesful and for all we know he is shit at everything else and has no friends either.

[Anonymous No.4232466]

>>4232451
That's not what I said.
You need to contact people. And if he did any projects, that should show in his posts.

Unless he's working with projects that make him want to kill himself even more than not getting hired, thus he doesn't publish anything about it.

[Anonymous No.4232475]

>>4232280
im always in pain and suffering

[Anonymous No.4232493]

>>4232280

[Anonymous No.4232498]

>>4232280
>literal trash tier deviant art kid
>everything is cartoony, blocky, and caramel looking
>can't draw a good face to save his life.
>complains on social media that he cannot get a job

HAHAHAHA
what a little faggot

[Anonymous No.4232504]

>>4232466
How do I find people to contact for projects? My local city is absolutely barren of opportunities.

[Anonymous No.4232537]

>>4232498
pyw, he is better than most in the draw thread.

[Anonymous No.4232541]

if you do smut then art isn't a pipedream
being an 'artist' is a pipedream. those days are over

[Anonymous No.4232562]

>>4232541
I ain't putting my name on online drama. I've got mouths to feed with my art.
Take my word or don't, this is not what a serious artist looks like.

[Anonymous No.4232611]

>>4232436
>You can't tell that someone is subpar in skill ontop of being unfit socially unless your a master craftsmen art director.
You post your work faggot.

[Anonymous No.4232641]

>>4232280
He's objectively one of the most skilled draftsmen that ever posted on here. Anyone who says his work is bad is an idiot. It's absolutely not his skills that are the problem.

[Anonymous No.4232649]

>>4232436
I am better than him and fuck you. And nobody cares if I'm better than this tart crying for attention either.

[Anonymous No.4232655]

>>4232641
>draftman

You're going to tell me he's a storyteller as well?

[Anonymous No.4232659]

>>4232655
I'm telling you he's good at drawing. Anyone who disagrees have zero credibility and can be dismissed as the clueless idiots they are.

[Anonymous No.4232665]

>>4232659
That doesn’t mean he’s worth hiring.

[Anonymous No.4232666]

>>4232659
Nobody will hire this mentally retard no matter how good he draws.

[Anonymous No.4232685]

I treat social media too much like a journal, which isn't professional, my apologies.
Don't be discouraged about 'making it', my failures in life are much more than my art, I'll try to do better.

[Anonymous No.4232688]

>>4232665
>>4232666
That's my point. If he's not getting work it's because he's doing something wrong in other areas, not because he's lacking skills.

[Anonymous No.4232705]

>>4232685
chin up m8 the thread and whatevers probably going on in your dms is proof enough that people give a little bit of a shit about you

[Anonymous No.4232713]

>>4232280
>draws porn
>wants to kill his art career shortly after
Really makes you think

[Anonymous No.4232722]

>>4232713
What porn? And thdark has always been like this anyways, as far as I know.

[Anonymous No.4232725]

Cant he draw because he likes it?

[Anonymous No.4232736]

>>4232649
Clearly you do, since you wanna bitch about it, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.4232738]

>>4232451
>>4232504
You just make your own project. Make something that looks professional. That way when someone looks through your portfolio the person will see it and go "oh, who'd you do this project for?"

It show you have the skills as well as showing that you're a self starter.

[Anonymous No.4232751]

>>4232280
>tumblr
exactly how stupid are you, OP?

[Anonymous No.4232752]

>>4232736
Cry more shitcunt

[Anonymous No.4232755]

>>4232752
>he still hasn't posted his work

[Anonymous No.4232767]

>>4232755
I'll post it once you get off his dick.

[Anonymous No.4232778]

>>4232280
Should have done NSFW

[Anonymous No.4232782]

>>4232778
Based

[Anonymous No.4232789]

>>4232767
Cope

[Anonymous No.4232796]

>>4232445
There was no need to attack me with that list anon...

[Anonymous No.4232798]

>>4232498
>is arguably better than you and 80% of this board

go away crab-chan

[Anonymous No.4232802]

>>4232280
>he thinks ones skills as an artist are linked to their hands.
ngmi
if youre skilled you could make masterpieces with your feet or elbows or even eye trtacking, it would just take a little longer

[Anonymous No.4232803]

>>4232374
>>4232419
what is that?

[Anonymous No.4232804]

>>4232798
>90%*

[Anonymous No.4232805]

>>4232280
His photostudies are good, but his style is generic Tumblr shit. Why would anyone choose him for his skill when he deliberately makes his works look unoriginal and uncreative

[Anonymous No.4232813]

>>4232805
>but his style is generic Tumblr shit.
Who else draws like him?

[Anonymous No.4232818]

>>4232813
every basic bitch on tumblr

[Anonymous No.4232822]

>>4232813
You can't seriously look at this https://www.artstation.com/thdark/albums/all shit and tell me it's memorable or unique

[Anonymous No.4232826]

>>4232805
pyw, I will post mine. This is nonsense.

[Anonymous No.4232845]

>>4232822
His style is pretty recognizable and memorable to me.
I've only been exposed to one of his works from 2 years ago, and yet I still remember him distinctly and clearly to this day. Can't say the same to a lot of other artists.

[Anonymous No.4232867]

>>4232826
Lead by example

[Anonymous No.4232873]

>>4232280
>>4232641
thdark doesn't market himself very well at all imo. he posts work maybe like twice a month.

[Anonymous No.4232880]

>>4232867

[Anonymous No.4232890]

>>4232822
desu his style kind of falls in a weird niche where it's too anime influenced for capeshitters but also not anime enough for easy retweets from waifufags who just want fap material.
this would be fine if he were doing some kind of of personal project that could build an audience around him but as it stands he does just enough to be liked by other drawfags and ignored by everyone else.

[Anonymous No.4232892]

>>4232890
Why do capeshit fags hate anime?

[Anonymous No.4232915]

>>4232475
I know you're not because I've always been in pain and it never registered as suffering

[Anonymous No.4232922]

>>4232541
Don't listen to this dude : smut artists want to corrupt you.

[Anonymous No.4232924]

>>4232280
I don't know this guy but now there's this trend with mildly popular "artists", which is saying
>boohoo, I marketed myself up the ass and pandered really hard but now that I'm popular I am so unhappy ;-(((
>boohoo I can't make the art I rly want to make 'cuz my fans have the final say ;(((
No you faggot, you are doing exactly what you wanted to do all along. Because if you had one ounce of self-respect you just wouldn't do that shit. You have been doing, cynically, what you wanted to do because you saw nothing wrong with what you did. You don't have any original ideas besides fan-art or the stupid shit you drew to "get fans" because if you had any you would be drawing that, and only that. Because when you need to say something you just want to say THAT, it's stronger that you, you can't simply decide "I'll do this other thing instead" unless you didn't have anything to say in the first place.
I usually ignore these threads but this attitude is infuriating. You know what's worse than this? Giving up. Not having anybody give a shit about your work because you don't have any hashtags for it, because it's not porn or other stupid shit.
Not only they got their fucking cake, they're eating it too, and they're complaining while they fucking eat it. Or they blame "social media", social media is just a tool, it's the people who a responsible. If people start selling crack cocaine and destroy the youth it's not crack cocaine's fault, it's the people making it who are responsible. You saw that something worked, you did it, you ruined things for artists who really care, but you dare complain, don't you fucking complain.

[Anonymous No.4232925]

>>4232713
Yeah it should really make the people who want to draw these subjects think (outside of their pants)

[Anonymous No.4232930]

>>4232924
And of course they know what I'm saying very well, because they probably just saw someone else do it and it worked, so they're doing it too.

[Anonymous No.4232935]

>>4232924
Not even remotely close to what he's complaining about.

[Anonymous No.4232949]

>>4232778
Stop trying to make people fall in that trap.
>>4232782
Suuure, your degenerate art will be featured in galeries & huge billboards for everyone to see...

[Anonymous No.4232968]

>>4232949
not a pornfag but
>sasha grey ended up doing actual acting and wrote a book
>majority of people think porn is actual art
>that anon who carved a dragon.jpg
you really think you won't see dick in vegene in museums 5 years from now? I've already walked into an exibit of a guy who drew girls getting fucked by ugly old men, it just needs to go mainstream

[Anonymous No.4232973]

>>4232968
imo the actual problem is the fear of being confronted by society because of that.

- your family will look down on you, just like the normies around you in life.
- internet normies will try to cancel or report you.
- you will be shy to tell anyone about what you do.
- for any other job, that can be an stigma.

but if you don't give a fuck. is not a real problem. just keep drawings legal. and by that I mean: don't post porn in sites where children are not restricted from access.

[Anonymous No.4232981]

>>4232973
we're almost at a point where if you object to your daughter sucking cock for a living you are shunned for being a bigot
not to mention porn artists don't even need galleries because they make more than 99% of actual artists

[Anonymous No.4232994]

>>4232981
dunno. in this day and age only fat feminist bitches are allowed to suck cock without problems. if you're a man. you will get banned from paypal , patreon and another platform.

being a cam whore is a lot easier than draw lolis.

[Anonymous No.4232996]

>>4232968
>>majority of people think porn is actual art
what

[Anonymous No.4233008]

>>4232803

It's an allergic reaction to a chemical at my old job that made a huge chunk of the skin peel off my hands and left festering sores on my arms. I still have scars on my arms, but not my hands, because my body basically had to regrow all the skin on my fingers and palms.

[Anonymous No.4233025]

>>4232778
He already did, under a different name

[Anonymous No.4233036]

>>4233008
That's metal as fuck anon, its like an origin story for some kind of art superhero

[Anonymous No.4233044]

It's his style, it's not very applicable in today's industry. What he needs to do is up his painting skills and get rid of the linework or go with entirely new processes like using 3D and photobashing to push his artwork.

Or do porn.

[Anonymous No.4233045]

Nothing like some old fashioned /ic/ tough love for motivation.

[Anonymous No.4233078]

>>4232892
some people view all anime as ew weird waifufag-attracting weeaboo garbage, which is only somewhat true haha. capeshit fags are usually kind of autistic too

[Anonymous No.4233081]

>>4233045
Good on him. Hope he makes it someday. Everyone should approach /ic/ with this same mindset.

[Anonymous No.4233082]

>>4233045
>taking things said on ic at face value

[Anonymous No.4233095]

Just glanced over his portfolio, he's good but only does one, really specific style. There's not much range or breadth in his work. So he's only going to be attractive to employers who are looking for that specific style.

[Anonymous No.4233111]

Market is already too saturated with this trannie/girly art style.

[Anonymous No.4233115]

The amount of crabbing in this thread depresses me. People think they're helping by beating into someone's head that they're shit, even when they're genuinely one of the most skilled people to come out of /ic/. What a shithole this board is

[Anonymous No.4233116]

>>4233045
Glad he's not such a weak willed fuck. Never stop trying

[Anonymous No.4233118]

>>4233111
How is that a tranny/girly art style? What's a masculine art style then?

[Anonymous No.4233120]

>>4233111
Even if I didn't know I could easily tell that drawing was made by a man
Can you guess how

[Anonymous No.4233123]

>>4233111
>trannie/girly art style
Does that just mean "any style I don't like" now?

[Anonymous No.4233127]

>>4233120
how? because theres a heavy focus on detailed mechanical things?

[Anonymous No.4233129]

>>4233118
Go on youtube, all the art tutorials done in that style are done by girls.

[Anonymous No.4233132]

>>4233129
Link one example

[Anonymous No.4233133]

>>4233127
Yah. Girls usually abhor drawing that stuff. Even girls who are really good at drawing just don't like techy subjects, and this guy seems to straight up love it.

[Anonymous No.4233134]

>>4233129
>Go on youtube
No. Fuck you

[Anonymous No.4233135]

>>4233132
https://www.youtube.com/chrishongart

[Anonymous No.4233136]

>>4233133
yeah i do notice that. girls are more focused on people and guys more focused on things. I think there was even a study on it, they found male babies spend more time looking at things, toys etc. and female babies spent time looking at people's faces more

[Anonymous No.4233138]

>>4233132
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=syfy+artist+alley

[Anonymous No.4233146]

>>4233136
now i think about it it makes a lot of sense in evolution. females in the tribe who could read others emotion bred more successfully and males who understood the physical world better were probably better hunters and providers

[Anonymous No.4233175]

Thdark I have always liked your stuff, especially your robots and machine designs. You know the saying that your job as a commercial artist is to provide a solution to a problem?

When I look at your stuff on artstation I don't really feel like I get a clear idea how your art would be used for a commercial project. Even though you have a couple of different categories they all look interchangeable. Your concepts and designs are not presented like you would expect concept art to be presented - they're essentially all finished illustrations. No ortographic views, no sketches and idea explorations of different silhouettes and color schemes and what not.

I'm not getting a clear idea what you want to do with your illustrations either. They all feel a bit random like it's just your personal work dumped from deviantart. It's as if you are marketing yourself to draw people's OCs.

[Anonymous No.4233180]

>>4232949
>Thinks that going into a gallery is making it

Ishyggitywhigitty

[Anonymous No.4233181]

>>4232280
Poor thdark. I hope he'll find his purposes.
But can someone explain to me the reality of making in the business side of art? Being able to draw well is one thing, but marketing yourself is on another different level when you didn't go to art school with prestige that they give you.

I mean there's art end goal, but the reality is blurred when you realize you also need to make your business end goal too.

[Anonymous No.4233188]

>>4233175
I think his art works fine for commercial art, but his style seems niche which would only capture a few certain brand or IP (ex game/nerd culture products.) I'd say he should start networking more at convention while working on the side until he land on a stable project, it's really is competitive nowaday. Best wishes to you Thdark.

[Anonymous No.4233191]

start a small comic or short stories man, build yourself a website to polish your portfolio.

[Anonymous No.4233195]

>>4233181
>art school with prestige that they give you.

[Anonymous No.4233198]

>>4233195
anon you don't go to art school for the class you go for the networking.
You realize that there are scholarships and intern program that will only open if you go to that specific school.
Same shit with your shitty college, if you don't take the opportunity to grab the chances but graduate without applying for intern before you got you toiler paper you basically flushed a fortune down the toilet. Which is why you're still shitposting to this day.

[Anonymous No.4233199]

>>4233198
Keep making excuses so that you can keep not drawing, faggot.

[Anonymous No.4233200]

>>4233199
ok, crab.

[Anonymous No.4233204]

>>4233200
I know it's classic 4chan to not even know how to use your own memes right but he's just telling you the actual way to improve

[Anonymous No.4233206]

>>4233198
I mean it's a nice plus if you make connections, but you should obviously go to art school to hone your craft first above all. Anything else is faggotry

[Anonymous No.4233207]

>>4233115
What did you expect from here? No, like seriously?

[Anonymous No.4233210]

>>4233204
Oh I know, but why would you think I'm using it wrong, lol

[Anonymous No.4233211]

>>4233210
Someone telling you to work harder is not a crab
Someone telling you to give up because you're NGMI and didn't even go to art school for the mad prestige would be the classic crab

[Anonymous No.4233216]

>>4233211
that's not the point, I know this place enough to know these type of people come with two faces, but since you're seems new so I'll leave it here.

[Anonymous No.4233248]

>>4232443
>have a stable and satisfying career
>in 2019
LMAO

[Anonymous No.4233272]

>>4232813
Reminds me a bit of harrodeleted
>>4232818
>>4232822
>>4232805
I think his style is fine and it isn't even Tumblr unless by Tumblr you mean Western + Cartoony, but what makes me laugh is that you think his style is not "unique" enough. As if all the fucking forgettable garbage that is on ArtStation were more unique than this.
If anything this is more original and personal than 99% of what's on ArtStation and I will remember this guy tomorrow. I'm not even a fan of the style.
The only technical fault I can think of is that he doesn't fully render everything and goes for a cel-shaded look. I think his art might fit into android games etc. but the portfolios I see for that are fully rendered. But I think we're ignoring the elephant in the room here, which is that the art market - any market except porn - is extremely saturated.

[Anonymous No.4233279]

>>4232280
all life is pain and suffering, just make it the pain and suffering your willing to endure.

[Anonymous No.4233344]

Thing is, uniqueness and consistency is not what art directors are looking for. They're looking for flexibility in both style and subject matter.
Never in an interview I was asked why my portfolio is not more consistent. Plenty of times I've been told they would have liked to see more X or Y or asked if I can do Z. And that's when I try to build a portfolio that has as much breadth and diversity as possible. They aren't just looking for someone who's a perfect fit for their current project they're looking for someone who's useful even in their next project or the one after that. Unless they're hiring a freelancer for some one time thing but it should go without saying that if anything flexibility is even more important for freelancers.

Having a unique trademark style may help if you're trying to build a brand for yourself and win online popularity or whatever but that's a case of selling your work directly to the audience, a very different ballgame. Companies looking to hire someone don't give a rat's ass about your personal brand.

[Anonymous No.4233414]

>>4233344
That depends. It comes down to specialist vs generalist.

[Anonymous No.4233419]

>>4232280
That's life. That's art. Nobody said it was going to be easy. Only the strong survive here. Good luck d/ic/ks

[Anonymous No.4233459]

>>4232493
>first artist makes tons of interesting, original, creative work constantly
>second artist is a Xerox machine that spends "le 600 hours" on Morgan Freeman
makes you think

[Anonymous No.4233986]

>>4233459
Making art never paid well, it's a wonder that there are some good artists that can live off of it.

[Anonymous No.4234003]

>>4233344
Exactly. If you have too much of the same shit they will think you're a one trick pony. They want to see that you can draw anything.

[Anonymous No.4234004]

>>4233459
I would be OK with the comic taking a shit on them wacky "creative" artists if people weren't constantly lamenting that everything is samey, boring and soulless and pointing out that the "creative" works are much better, but when you make "creative" work they ignore you unless you start pandering and degrading your work until it's as boring, samey and soulless as the rest. Implying that "creative" artists don't work as hard if not harder than the reliable workers.

And now that I think of it this is the exact same situation as shallow thots who only go for PUAs but complain they feel used. You even get the same treatment as the incel "nice guys" if you want to make art instead of just pandering. A lot of human qualities now are being derided in favor of some formula that is being pushed so hard it actually ends up working. I fucking hate social engineering, most of the hopeless virgin zoomers I see on /adv/ would have been totally fine 20 years ago. They're normal people acting normal. Everything is going to shit while putting the blame on you if you don't succeed somehow. OP could have been 10 times more creative and skilled, have a completely different style, have more soul / less soul, it doesn't even matter, if you don't succeed the blame is on you. This board always does it, society does it. If you are depressed the blame is on you. If you are poor and work a dead end job the blame is on you. It's a way to keep people from collectively rebelling against this awful system.

[Anonymous No.4234019]

>>4234004
Redpill 'em baby

[Anonymous No.4234025]

>>4234003
How did Ilya Kuvshinov get a job then?

[Anonymous No.4234040]

>>4234025
Nepotism is rampant in the art world

[Anonymous No.4234041]

>>4234025
People here are just shooting blanks, while thinking they have reached the absolute truth. It's absolutely hilarious.

From this thread, here are the reasons why thdark have not made it yet:
>thdark's style is too unique/personal while at the same time being too generic.
>His subject matter is too diverse and inconsistent, while also being too narrow and samey.
>He does too much fanart, but he also does too little of it.
>His style is too feminine, while also being too masculine.
>It's because he draws porn! Or is it because he doesn't draw porn?

Nobody in here have a clue.

[Anonymous No.4234042]

>>4234041
You're the idiot here.

[Anonymous No.4234047]

>>4234041
>Nobody in here have a clue.
It's because >>4234004
OP gets no sympathy from me for participating in the pandering Olympics with fanart and porn. People who "do what it takes" to get attention and money are the reason why this awful system exists and creativity has gone to shit.

[Anonymous No.4234050]

>>4234042
Keep on firing those blanks, sherlock. I'm sure you can one day transform thdark into the next ilya/sakimi.

>>4234047
Did you even read my post? You're doing exactly what I was mocking you for.

[Anonymous No.4234053]

>>4234050
>the next Ilya/sakimi
Fucking disgusting you think I'm shooting that low? You really are retarded.

[Anonymous No.4234054]

>>4234050
>Did you even read my post?
Yes and I replied that the reason is that there's a narrative set up by boomers where if you fail, the fault is always yours. It doesn't matter what your work looks like, if you are not successful it's your fault and the system is perfect.
That said I have no sympathy for artists who participate in the system instead of pushing for a change. If you want to be an industry artist or a professional panderer then you have to go all the way, you should stop deluding yourself you can retain some of your taste or pretend you're actually a creative person. You're just a worker in a professional environment, so you either quietly leave or push for a change in the states. Complaining while running this rat race is retarded and only validates it. Artists should stop bending over and find another system instead of complaining about the one they agreed with.

[Anonymous No.4234056]

>>4234053
In terms of income, ESL.

[Anonymous No.4234058]

>>4234054
But the thing is that thdark doesn't even do porn, and his "fanart" only fills up 1% of his works (it's also mostly niche stuff that he obviously genuinely like). I don't know why some people here are claiming otherwise, did they even take a glance on his portfolio?

[Anonymous No.4234063]

>>4234056
Pfff as if income is all there is to it. I do what I enjoy and it pays the bills, my friend. No need to shill out fanart nudes with six fingers and bad perspective on patreon

[Anonymous No.4234069]

>>4234058
>I don't know why some people here are claiming otherwise, did they even take a glance on his portfolio?
Because people are drones and the narrative says that if you fail it's your fault so they'll find anything plausible to discredit you. Every now and then you see skilled artists complain, and they're always torn apart bit by bit - not even by the higher ups who push the narrative, but by less experienced and less skilled peers who experience the same frustration - and the more they prove themselves the further the goalposts are moved.
This is a rigged game where only certain people win, but as of today it's your fault if you participate.

[Anonymous No.4234071]

>>4234063
That's a cute sentiment, but it's entirely unrelated to this thread which is about people shooting blanks on why isn't thdark more financially successful.

[Anonymous No.4234078]

>>4234071
It's because he sucks and is a whiny bitch.

[Anonymous No.4234088]

>>4234078
Keep those blanks coming, you'll get there eventually.

[Anonymous No.4234414]

>>4232949
>he doesn't know

[Anonymous No.4234532]

>>4234414
>tfw you'll never have your lolis featured in the Art Complex Center of Tokyo
Oyari is a truly based man. One can only aspire to become like him.

[Anonymous No.4234539]

>>4232280
always insta unfollow artists who begin posting this kind if shit, it's utterly pathetic.

[Anonymous No.4234663]

Only problem with this dude is there's no real market for the type of work he's doing.
Name me 5 recent projects where this dude's art would fit in

[Anonymous No.4234669]

>>4234663
That's because he is a male, if he was a tranny or a girl he would be selling prints non-stop and have a huge patreon.

[Anonymous No.4234674]

>>4234669
If he was a chick he could just dress like a slut and stream himself drawing and rake in all the money from thirsty ass niggas

[Anonymous No.4234680]

>>4234669
There's some truth to this, simply because every female artist I see only RTs and networks with other girls, while male artists virtue signal all the time and also retweets girls hoping to get something in return but they never do because they're male.

[Anonymous No.4235098]

>>4234041
No it's just some people are right and know it and others are clueless and wrong

[Anonymous No.4235349]

>>4234414
>>4234532
dayum

[Anonymous No.4235492]

>>4234532
His aesthetic is awesome, too bad the heads he draws can look weird sometimes

[Anonymous No.4235496]

>>4235492
He's a pedo who should get shot like all japs.

[Anonymous No.4235527]

I'm younger than him, have 5x the amount of followers, and make a very comfortable living though my art.

And people look down on NFSW

[Anonymous No.4235530]

>>4233129
Women don't like drawing cool mechanical shit.

[Anonymous No.4235535]

>>4235527
You're probably no where near his skill level, though.

thdark may not have a gajillion followers, but I respect his skill as an artist way more than some stupid cumbrain who has to resort to cheating by taking advantage of people's horniness

[Anonymous No.4235541]

>>4235527
Based
twitter?

[Anonymous No.4235545]

>>4235535
Good thing your respect doesn't pay the bills then

[Anonymous No.4235550]

>>4235527
Fuck off BBCchan.

[Anonymous No.4235553]

>>4235527
They do, which is why you're a shut-in and can't be open or proud about your job.

[Anonymous No.4235561]

>>4235553
I have a doppelganger SFW account that I show friends and family so that isn't a problem.

[Anonymous No.4235591]

>>4235561
I highly doubt a coomshitter can make appealing and meaningful SFW.

[Anonymous No.4235592]

>>4235492
all animus heads look weird

[Anonymous No.4235593]

>>4235527
Good man

[Anonymous No.4235594]

>>4235545
You're still a nobody compared to the thdark at the end of the day.
Doesn't matter how much good boy points you get for drawing your little porn doodles

[Anonymous No.4235606]

>>4235591
>p-people like you can't exist

The whole idea of being successful at NSFW art is to make appealing artwork. It's not too much of a stretch to put some clothes on a character.

Whatever makes you feel better I guess. Have fun never making a thin dime with your artwork.

[Anonymous No.4235607]

>>4235594
lol

[Anonymous No.4235609]

>>4235594
Statistically I'm 5x the somebody compared to thdark.

[Anonymous No.4235612]

>>4235607
>>4235609
cope

[Anonymous No.4235665]

>>4235535
>Implying respect from here has any value.
Who would care about gaining respect from 4chan anons here. Fucking priceless, you think that has any value.

[Anonymous No.4235901]

>>4235609
I hope you're putting money into a 401k

[Anonymous No.4235991]

>it's another 'puritans seething at nsfw artists being more successful than they will ever be' episode
loving every laugh

[Anonymous No.4236082]

>>4235561
And im willing to bet that it has significantly less attention than your fucked up porn account.

[Anonymous No.4236173]

>>4236082
>>4235612
>>4235901
>>4235594
>>4235591
>>4235553
>>4235535
Cope, you are just a bunch of seething crabs that aren’t making it. You could be using that time to draw, but NOOO you just wanna sperg out, like some autistic dumbass. Go ahead keep bitching, like you’ll get anywhere in life, lmao.

[Anonymous No.4236192]

>>4235991
>implying porn artist make enough for a living wage
check out this bad boy.
https://twitter.com/dorrismccomics?lang=en
at the end of the day, trannies and gays always win. They have more networking power than any creative pleb could achieve.

[Anonymous No.4236231]

>>4232649
pyw

[Anonymous No.4236242]

Twitter's stock is in free fall. The freedom porn artists enjoy currently are on the verge of collapsing; there is are a multitude of reasons Jack Dorsey has threatened to flee to Africa.

Enjoy the show. Keep up the grind. Start developinf connections with other artists, indie developers, and professionals now. Come Christmas, the course of history will forever change.

Godspeed, vanguards.

[Anonymous No.4236254]

>>4236192
>just cut your dick off and take it up the ass for internet points
do I have to?

[Anonymous No.4236256]

>>4235527
Based

[Anonymous No.4236261]

>>4236254
Yes, it’s easier than gaining connections from industry art jobs(Disney, cartoon, etc*)

[Anonymous No.4236428]

It's a longshot, but I sure as hell am going to enjoy the journey and find my way to where I need to go.

Good luck, everyone. The world is about to get very interesting.

[Anonymous No.4236588]

>>4235991
>Its another you have to respect me getting money for sucking dick and being pompous about it while everyone struggles to make it the honest way, episode
You NSFW peeps sure do seem to have a problem with how others perceive you.

[Anonymous No.4236608]

>>4236588
>the honest way
Loving every laugh

[Anonymous No.4236613]

>>4236608
Cope porn fag. I guarantee you patreon is eventually going to ban nsfw with twitter soon to follow.

[Anonymous No.4236620]

The art industry is full of nepotism. But harshest part is that every profession of it is highly competitive and the bar is always rising. If don't have a clear end goal, you just might not end up anywhere.

[Anonymous No.4236976]

>>4235527
pyw

[Anonymous No.4237054]

>>4236613
Cope harder puritan, you people say that forever and act as if online porn hasn't existed long before both of those.

[Anonymous No.4237061]

>>4233025
WHAT IS IT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.4237134]

>>4232443
based hobbyist anon

[Anonymous No.4237208]

You have to ask yourself 'why would people give me money for this', and when looking at thdark's work the answer is 'they wouldn't'. Despite retarded crabs claiming otherwise, his skill is not the problem (in fact, he's probably a better draughtsman than a lot of people getting paid for their shit). But skill is not as important as people think, what's important is being able to full fill a position that's financially relevant.
Why would someone pay him for his art? His style is not going to get him hired as a concept artistic, it's not going to get him hired as an editorial illustrator, a quick glance at his social media tells me he doesn't sell prints, he doesn't draw porn, his style would be suited to comics but he doesn't draw comics, etc. Like where does he expect the money to come from?
Brutal reality is that art is an extremely oversaturated market, and if your business game is not on point, you're not gonna make it regardless of skill (unless you get lucky).

[Anonymous No.4237211]

>>4237208
No it's really just because he sucks

[Anonymous No.4237219]

>>4237208
Hello thdark! Is that really what you tell yourself to feel better about getting fired and having no career? Do everyone a favor and read the sticky, if you'd practice your fundies and get a real style then maybe people would want to hire you :)

[Anonymous No.4237603]

>>4232493
Not true.
>t. a graphic designer that tries to be the latter and gets shit on for not being the former while demanded to do the latter's job

[Anonymous No.4237607]

>>4232968
>you won't see dick in vegene in museums 5 years from now?
>5 years from now
>5
Anon, you haven't been to many non-bible related museums, have you?

[Anonymous No.4237638]

Successful Artists are business men
Learn to sell

[Anonymous No.4237652]

>>4232443
Absolutely agree. Too many artist even at low levels sacrifice artist integrity for that next pay check.

[Anonymous No.4237683]

>>4232443

/thread
/board

[Anonymous No.4237686]

>>4234414

puritan faggots BTFO.

[Anonymous No.4237744]

>>4234040
Actually insane how so many of the greats only got to make their mark on the world through connections instead of their skills. Sure there are exceptions like Van Gogh, but he was only recognized after he died poor as fuck.

[Anonymous No.4237774]

>>4232443
>collect autism bux
>draw as a hobby
>chase girls on the site
this is the true way

[Anonymous No.4237776]

>>4237744
>Van Gogh
>great
pick one

[Anonymous No.4237786]

>tfw years making loads of money off furry fetish art
twitter and every platform can all die, I'm forever safe with my loyal public

[Anonymous No.4237789]

every artist who touches this board stays a ngmi no matter their skill level it seems
this is the second time in a week an /ic/ eceleb gives up

[Anonymous No.4237792]

>>4234414
>>4234532
This is beyond based. This is foundationed. Earthen. Pillared.

[Anonymous No.4237816]

What's he trying to do anyway? Make money by selling prints and doing private commissions? He should apply as a concept artist to visual development studios. Storyboarding pays very well too, although the work is dry. Medical illustration is another dry but big money job.

[Anonymous No.4237822]

>>4237789
irrc there was an /ic/fag who draw life illustration everyday and made it within one year, then he fucked off else where after he got famous on reddit.

Pretty sure Shen the bike cuck comic guy visited 4chan. He was in /co/ but probably lurked /ic/ back then too.

[Anonymous No.4237935]

>>4234414
>>4237792
Indeed, this is the absolute core of based, the powder inside the redpill
I found it hard to swallow at first, this is too raw, but real at the same time

[Anonymous No.4238090]

>>4237822
Tugelbend?

[Anonymous No.4238104]

>>4232374
Wolf biter?

[Anonymous No.4238117]

>>4235527
What’s the monthly cost of living where you are?

[Anonymous No.4238162]

>>4232280
>>4233045
don't worry when we create the virus to wipe out the triangle nosed menace, then we'll finally have an industry that rewards people for their talents than charisma.


nah but seriously I feel bad every time I see these sorts of things. I saw him pop up in the stylization threads when I frequented /ic/ and I really love his work. How he organizes and balances his details on mechas were well done and comfy as fuck. He sounds like a good guy personally too.

[Anonymous No.4238181]

>>4237744
Van Gogh was friends with other famous artists of the time tho
Without that he'd probably stayed obscure.

[Anonymous No.4238182]

>>4237652
>collect neetbux
>keep your integrity

[Anonymous No.4238202]

>>4238104
eh?

[Anonymous No.4239013]

The sheer amount of people in this thread dogpiling on this guy and then trying to pass it off as wanting to help him improve is staggering.

It's nice that he's taking it in a good way, but let's not pretend that most of you weren't here to put him down and feel better about being an NGMI.

[Anonymous No.4239024]

>>4239013
I don't want to help him I just think he sucks. That's obviously why he lost his job along with being whiny on Twitter, he's probably a whiny person irl and someone couldn't stand being around him.

To get jobs as an artist you must be at minimum two of three things:
- Very skilled
- On-time with deadlines
- Friendly/easy to work with

He's not skilled, at least not more than your average first year art student, so in this way he's very replaceable. He seems like a whiner from the way he acts online, maybe he's different irl but I doubt it if he's going to act like that on a public forum. And I don't know how he is about deadlines, as I've never worked with him or commissioned him.

At best he's got 2 out of 3 requirements. At worst, he's got 1. He had to have fucked up somehow to get fired. Either that or the employer had to let people go because of budget issues and he's taking it easy too personally.

[Anonymous No.4239026]

>>4239024
>taking it way* too personally

Whoops

[Anonymous No.4239029]

post your work loser

[Anonymous No.4239033]

>>4232280
ABLOO BLOO BLOO

[Anonymous No.4239035]

>>4239024
>He's not skilled, at least not more than your average first year art student
By what definition? That's such a vague criticism that I can't see your perspective.
Even a cursory look at his work would show you skill with stylization and mecha design that is professional level.
Pointing out flaws or shortcomings in his pieces is one thing, but to wholesale claim that he's not skilled in the slightest is ludicrous.

[Anonymous No.4239037]

>>4239024
He didn't get fired from his job.

[Anonymous No.4239039]

>>4234532
>>4234532
>look up museum
>run down infrastructure, looks like an abandoned apartment complex
>exhibits are nothing but small prints from obscure artists
>not mentioned in any articles featuring Japans famous art museums such as Nezu or the Ota Memorial

This is what pornfags call achievement as indie comic artists take off.

[Anonymous No.4239040]

>>4239024
pyw