/asg/ - Anime Study General

[Anonymous No.4230504]

**Don’t aimlessly study the fundamentals or anime. Learn the fundamentals (form, value, color, composition, etc.) through properly copying anime.**

General anime style discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Keep most of your personal works for /alt/ or the other critique threads. Here we should be drawing copies from good anime styled references (illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.) to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

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General Art Overview:
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Japanese Book Collection:
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Previous Thread:
>>4218873

[Anonymous No.4230805]

>17:45
>24:00

oh no no no

[Anonymous No.4231004]

please critique

[Anonymous No.4231008]

some decent little tutorials. the eye one is the best, imo. i liked the blue triangle method for laying in eyes with perspective in the third video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9_ac4-zHFQ - heads (it's loomis of course)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYYI-ajeA1s&t=59s hair
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3K_bHxtiSE&t=59s eyes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-PdWYZuUPU

[Anonymous No.4231064]

Alright so the obvious what's good, what's bad but beyond that does anyone have any advice on implementing ambient light.
I see this on a lot of anime art with like this desaturated blue/purple lighting on things like hair I try and implement this on my own but don't quite understand It. any help?

[Anonymous No.4231127]

>>4231004
Post actual size not this pixelated shit

[Anonymous No.4231144]

>>4231127
That is the actual size, i draw small

[Anonymous No.4231150]

>>4231064
Mostly small stuff.

To me there are a lot of tangents at the top of the head with the hair and bangs all meeting in roughly the same place. The chest looks really yellow compared to the rest of the skin for something under a shirt so I made them more red, painted over the skin colored glow over the shirt which seemed too strong but probably works in moderation. Tried sitting like that and the leg pose felt off. Felt the upper right leg should be rotated clockwise, also pointed out slightly wider if she has her foot where it is similar to how some runner's stretch. This would result in it pointing up a bit more from the pelvis and I think helps the silhouette/put life in the character. Hopefully you get the idea. Whole image seemed too warm so destaurated it slightly, a cyan soft light layer at low opacity would work too.

[Anonymous No.4231165]

Thank you I'll work on it but one issue I encounter is that my color choices look like shit based on the monitor I use vs how the image is displayed on a phone. with it looking way more saturated on a phone which leads to stuff like the jarring yellow tits.

[Anonymous No.4231284]

>>4231004
the size around the pit of the her left arm is way to big its like you went from a rest position to raising the arm but you didnt change it, and the torso should be place more forward if we use her pits as reference.

[Anonymous No.4231315]

>>4231165
forgot to mention. the hand is looking pretty messed up by the thumb. also don't just put a girl in a blank void, place them in some type of setting or with a background shape. the ambient light is the color in the shadow. the blue/purple is likely to be the sky color or a style choice like cangiante

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJkIaMECW6c&t=8m40s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwLQ0cDb4cE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fLV5ezO64w

[Anonymous No.4231376]

>>4231315
Here's What I kind of got down I'll try and fix the warm colors a little later. I applied the ambient lighting and heavier contrast.

[Anonymous No.4231464]

It's over
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAsLPqVvLsQ

[Anonymous No.4231472]

It's over

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5znNqEIMXd0

[Anonymous No.4231479]

>>4231472
I don't get it why they had to deliberately add "drawn characters" as well, like who the fk decides what kind of audience the artist had in mind when he was creating the artwork... especially since those fucks can just label it as "ah yes, that's clearly for children" just to enforce their subjective opinion. like wtf lmao how is this a thing

[Anonymous No.4231480]

>>4231284
you're an idiot

[Anonymous No.4231485]

>>4231479
it also has game characters listed as to grab all the gaming ytubers and streamers as well.

As nonsensical as their logic is, some kid's favorite fun content will be CoD but it won't be within their net since it's not rated T lol, aka whatever suits them to avoid forcing parents to take responsibility for their own children + that sweet yt and twitch money.

[Anonymous No.4231486]

>>4231376
her horizon line doesn't match the setting's horizon line

[Anonymous No.4231488]

>>4231480
>you're an idiot

[Anonymous No.4231529]

Are these threads worth posting in?

[Anonymous No.4231564]

>>4231480
great argument

[Anonymous No.4231570]

More like pedo study general

[Anonymous No.4231579]

imagine letting a imaginary drawing live rent free on your head

[Anonymous No.4231886]

Why the fuck is pin2D not even japanese? I could understand some of it otherwise..

>>4231570
Unlike westcuck artists though this general study other pictures and not real life children.

[Anonymous No.4231887]

>>4231064
Nice job anon

[Anonymous No.4231897]

>>4231579
Good morning anon!

[Anonymous No.4231990]

>>4231284
thank you

[Anonymous No.4232224]

Everybody draw a loli right now!!!

[Anonymous No.4232278]

>>4230504
>>4231004
>>4231886
>>4231284
What tablet do y'all use?
I was thinking of getting one for christmas so I could start drawing digitally instead of doing solely pencil and paper
I had something like a huion in mind since its in my price range (and since i'm also a beginner).

[Anonymous No.4232283]

>>4232224

[Anonymous No.4232284]

>>4232278
huion 680S, it's cheap and it works

[Anonymous No.4232288]

>>4232283
How do i draw hand like you

[Anonymous No.4232296]

>>4232278
i had a 1060 plus huion and the sensitivity was bad, but the res was alright, i have a wacom now and the sensitivity is 99% close as traditional. the rest is the same.

[Anonymous No.4232303]

>>4232224

>>4232283
How do I draw lolis like you?

[Anonymous No.4232308]

>>4232278
>What tablet do y'all use?
Xp-pen Deco 01 (which is $50 now). Deco01 V2 is out now at $60 which has a new pen, tilt support, and can connect to some android devices.

[Anonymous No.4232368]

Do you guys have any tips for improving?
What should i focus on?

[Anonymous No.4232371]

>>4232368
You should keep doing what you're doing because you're on the right track.

[Anonymous No.4232375]

>>4232371
I haven't really been focusing on anything, I just keep drawing.
What exactly should I work on? I can't tell what I'm weak at.

[Anonymous No.4232378]

>>4232375
Colors for one. Maybe even toes and fingers.

[Anonymous No.4232381]

>>4232378
Okay thanks.

[Anonymous No.4232386]

SOUL SOULESS

[Anonymous No.4232395]

>>4232224
Been drawing my first loli lately

>>4232278
"Wacom Intuos Pen and Touch Medium"
I use the eraser part for everything because I'm a cheap motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.4232398]

>>4231472
>>4231479
wait how come people are not talking about this more? did they pull a backroom scheme again so that it goes under people's radar

[Anonymous No.4232413]

>>4231472
Why does it affect art channels?
Can't you just draw anime and cartoons in a way that's not for children?

[Anonymous No.4232433]

>>4231472
Can't you just swear a whole bunch to prove it's not intended for kids?

[Anonymous No.4232434]

>>4231488
Why is it retards defending terrible red lines always reply with some unoriginal meme shit?

[Anonymous No.4232446]

>>4232278
Wacom™ Mobilestudio™ Pro 16. With this Wacom™ you will be a better™ artist, will be a pro within 6 months. This beautiful Wacom™ will make you drawing faster™ and better™, 45% time better! Buy it NOW!

[Anonymous No.4232449]

>>4231472
I hope this destroys youtube and finally gets someone to make an alternative that isn't cucked to the brim.

[Anonymous No.4232455]

>>4232449
Bitchute is a thing you know.

[Anonymous No.4232468]

>>4232398
They were talking about it. The law passed in 2000 but youtube didn't get hit with anything until recently. The FTC posted something last week which was a kick in the pants
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/blogs/business-blog/2019/11/youtube-channel-owners-your-content-directed-children

[Anonymous No.4232628]

>>4232434
Why is it always retards the ones who shit over redlines but never give any arguments? Checkmate.

[Anonymous No.4232630]

.

[Anonymous No.4232635]

>>4232368
Typical case of decent faces, but not enough practice with anything else. In most pieces, hands are where people will look right after the face so if you need something more specific to focus on than "bodies, everything", pick hands.
(And start drawing in toes, even if yo don't do a great job it'll stand out less as weird than not drawing them in at all.)

[Anonymous No.4232656]

>>4232628
If you can't tell it's shit it's because you are shit.

[Anonymous No.4232658]

>>4232656
>If you can't tell it's shit it's because you are shit.

[Anonymous No.4232661]

[Anonymous No.4232662]

>>4232658
>gets bfto and has to resort to zoomer memes

shouldn't you be dilating now?

[Anonymous No.4232663]

>>4232662
>shouldn't you be dilating now?

[Anonymous No.4232664]

>>4232628
Because it's always the same idiot that thinks he's good and draws dog shit red lines that helps nobody. And it's always the same idiot samefagging and defending his dog shit. Now fuck off.

[Anonymous No.4232668]

Could somebody help me out with this pose, it doesn't look right

[Anonymous No.4232672]

>>4232664
And yet you're worse than that guy because you aren't helping anyone and can't even argument what you're saying. Anything you say is on the same level as posting wojaks. That's what you deserve.

[Anonymous No.4232680]

>>4232672
Oh I'm sorry did I hurt your feelings? Learn to draw before critiquing other people's work.

[Anonymous No.4232682]

>>4232680
Dilate :^)

[Anonymous No.4232684]

>>4232682
Keep posting your deviantart tier shit and there's lots more coming :^)

[Anonymous No.4232686]

>>4232672
>>4232680
>>4232682
>>4232684
cringe
>>4232672
>>4232682
>>4232680
>>4232684
based cringe

[Anonymous No.4232690]

>>4232684
This guy has to be mikufag. There is no one else more retarded than him on this board.

[Anonymous No.4232691]

This is why /asg/ is a joke

[Anonymous No.4232696]

>>4232691
This general is pointless. 90% of people here should go to /beg/ and the rest to /alt/

[Anonymous No.4232699]

>>4232690
It's probably the same guy from the last thread that sperged out over the mere existence of a redline. He's probably riddled with insecurity and self-esteem issues.

[Anonymous No.4232743]

>made the redline
>went to sleep
>wake up
>mfw

[Anonymous No.4232864]

>>4232635
Thank you,
>"bodies, everything"
how would I improve my bodies?

[Anonymous No.4232875]

>>4232668
I'm beg so you might want to take this advice with a pinch of salt but Her hips seems to be facing the viewer but her torso seems to be facing 3/4

[Anonymous No.4233007]

>>4232864
Generally? Do studies of photos and pieces from artists you like, then draw from imagination right after that and try to apply the things you've learned.
When doing studies, don't just copy the image mindlessly but actively think about your reference, ask yourself why your favourite artists made certain choices.

More specifically: The way you attach legs to the torso is wrong. Hands and feet need better structure. Knees and elbows. Basically, you seem to struggle with how different parts of the body connect to each other - which is understandable, because it's one of the harder aspects of anatomy, but obviously it's still important to learn.

[Anonymous No.4233137]

>>4232413
>>4232433
well the dude said it in the vid pretty much, it's up to "them" to decide whether the content is intended for children/ and they basically reserve the right to label anything as "it's for kids" if it features drawn or game characters that children would like.
If you swear etc it will be labeled as not for children and apparently you won't even get featured unless someone deliberately searches for your vids.. but if your whole profile is already labeled as "kid friendly channel" swearing would be against ToS and you'd probably be banned. It's just nonsensical

>>4232449
eh yt isn't the problem, it would affect any platform. The point is to not let big leech companies scrutinize peoples internet freedom, if you look away only once and allow them to do as they want then it will spread to all platforms, from yt to twitter

[Anonymous No.4233360]

>>4232224
Ok
>>4232283
This loli is top tier
>>4232303
This loli is full of soul

[Anonymous No.4233402]

>>4233007
thanks

[Anonymous No.4233405]

[Anonymous No.4233407]

[Anonymous No.4233439]

>>4232668
you drew her ribcage too short and wide but you placed that part of the bone who is peeking under her boob at the same angle of her head, i dont know if that line near her right elbow is part of her ribcage or her belly buttom, if it's the former then her ribcage is way to wide and short and theres almost not space for her tummy, her legs lack form too. That line abover her cunny it's the adductor longus which is attached to her pelvis bone and leg bone(femur?) and is way too high above her cunny.i think you should place her neck forward a bit more. Her left arm seems dislocated but im not 100% sure.

i dont know with what angle you where going, her legs are in a frontal angle but her head is in an agle that can only be viewed from above along with her neck.

also a good way to have the height of the ribcage is using the top of the shoulder down to the bottom of the armpit, it should be about 3 times it/s height maybe a tiny bit more.

[Anonymous No.4233444]

>>4233439
adductor longus

[Anonymous No.4233452]

>>4233439
thanks so much anon, the line near her right elbow was meant to be her belly button

[Anonymous No.4233616]

>>4233007
One more thing, how exactly should I be attaching legs to the pelvis?

[Anonymous No.4233641]

how do i draw hands?

[Anonymous No.4233657]

>>4233439
This is very on point yet there is so many things to cover and remember. Any recommended book to pick all of this up?

[Anonymous No.4233731]

Can I see how you guys construct anime bodies?
I'm having a hard time doing so.
Please.

[Anonymous No.4233783]

>>4233731
I wish I could help you. But I'm bad myself and also have a hard time on the regular trying to find a consistent approach

[Anonymous No.4233784]

>>4233731
A box. A sphere for big ones.

[Anonymous No.4233791]

>>4233657
you need to learn anatomy, know hot to construct and build a memory library of the muscles in different poses with refs, if you only learn anatomy but you dont know how to construct it will never translate that well and with the help of refs you can understand the shape and mases of the muscle since most anatomy books are pretty escarce with dynamic body refs just the usual standing still, try googling ballerina nude for that.

here's how i approach to deconstruc and try see the forms

best anatomy book imo is anatomy for sculptors

>>4233731
literally this>>4233784

[Anonymous No.4233808]

>>4233791
Thank you for the explanation

[Anonymous No.4233817]

depressed anime man takes vacation

[Anonymous No.4233840]

>>4233784
>>4233791
I just wanna see what you guys do.

[Anonymous No.4233951]

How do I get chromatic aberration like this in csp?

[Anonymous No.4233953]

>>4233951
Edit>Image>Hue/Saturation>Selection>Killyourself

[Anonymous No.4234013]

>>4233951
Jesus this hurts my eyes, if you go for chromatic aberration, do maybe 10% of what that retard did to destroy his animu drawing.

[Anonymous No.4234021]

>>4233951
If you have photoshop duplicate the layer. Click the ring of the layer or go into advance blending mode where you add fancy bevels and drop shadows.in the general blending panel it has r g b channels. Toggle two off and nudge the picture in any direction and done

[Anonymous No.4234062]

How do I get better at poses?
I keep doing quick poses but I don't seem to be improving.

[Anonymous No.4234067]

>>4234062
You are improving, it's just improving takes a lot longer than you believe it to be. I once did quick poses for a month and I saw quite the improvement, but also realized why there are people who can study one subject for a lifetime. There's so much complexity that a lot of artists just either skip over or omit.

[Anonymous No.4234068]

>>4234062
Draw the whole body. Also you'll want to look up what the line of action is in gesture drawing and start sketching that out first. Keep the balance and weight but push the pose to make it look interesting. See how far you can exaggerate the feel of motion or weight in the pose and the forms without breaking the pose's balance.

[Anonymous No.4234070]

>>4233731
construct real bodies. anime at its core is still realism. grab some huston, vilppu, hampton, or loomis

[Anonymous No.4234074]

>>4234067
>>4234068
>>4234070
ok thanks, i'll keep trying

[Anonymous No.4234077]

>>4234074
Keep it up! Don't give up those gains man

[Anonymous No.4234322]

any advice on this lighting and how it could affect the colors? feel free to offer any other criticisms.

[Anonymous No.4234378]

>>4234322
i have never colored in my life but i know these colors are dead as /int/

[Anonymous No.4234396]

>>4234322
the shadows on her left abdominal by the belly button are too hard, would make the edge/contrast softer. the upper arms seem too short, the arm posture makes it seem like she has her shoulders shrugged up but she doesn't. is her right hand supposed to be holding something? the thumb is upside-down and there's a lot of contrast with the shadow and light which focuses the eye's attention there along with being in the center of the image.

colors mostly seem, no idea what you plan on doing for the background but the gradient should probably end in purple and not at blue.

[Anonymous No.4234555]

>>4234322
What is supposed to be happening in this picture, a sunset? Do you want a realistic take on that type of lighting scenario, or just something that looks cool? Because realistic sunsets are a lot more subtle than people tend to think and it's hard to look up reference for them because cameras don't capture that kind of lighting scenario acurately. If you just want something that looks interesting and a bit more believable, incorporate the colors of the background more into the way you render the character. It seems like you tried to go a little cooler in some areas, but she could really be standing anywhere the way you shaded her. Don't be afraid to exaggerate color variation, after all you're working in a style that exagerates lots of things.

[Anonymous No.4234658]

>>4234322
This might be a stupid question but how do I start learning coloring like that? I have CSP but I don't even know what brush to use or what to do past flat colors

[Anonymous No.4234661]

>>4231486
what?

[Anonymous No.4234676]

Hi /asg/ I am back again. This time with a set from memory, I decided to try some more variety faces.

Otherwise it feels weird that I keep doing this, at this point it feels like I have always been doing this it really is kind a creepy feeling. I did get more confident with the style than the at the start although I realize this isn't saying much since I am just coping one person and only faces. But this "style" really does feel way more familiar now, even tough I still have o work hard on fully creating a face like this from memory. I notice that I have not done profiles yet, I guess I'll have to fix that next time.

And FFS I need to learn how to do the hair of those sheep/goat girls, I just can't do them from my head every time it is just random fluffy bits thrown on.

[Anonymous No.4234679]

>>4234676
Here is the full set of the ones done from memory I had to shrink this like the other one to post it.

[Anonymous No.4234681]

>>4234676

[Anonymous No.4234687]

>>4234658
Lurk behind speedpaints and streams, it is the only choice for our literary education in the west is severely lacking outside of anatomy.

[Anonymous No.4235210]

can somebody help me with my anatomy?

[Anonymous No.4235232]

.

[Anonymous No.4235244]

>>4235232
*waves back at you*

[Anonymous No.4235369]

>>4233817
Why is everything labelled? Are you studying Ben Garrison?

[Anonymous No.4235380]

please critique

[Anonymous No.4235439]

>>4234021
Did you even read the post? He asked it in csp NOT Photoshop.

[Anonymous No.4235442]

How do I get my drawings with really thin lines?

[Anonymous No.4235447]

>>4233817
I like your style

[Anonymous No.4235480]

>>4235380
>Doesn't engage on hiding hands
>Draws regularly
Gonna make it. You usually get critique from much better artists than me but since this is dead time I might go for it. Your upper body and lower body are facing different directions with no twist on the middle so the drawing feels disjointed. Her left arm seems to be on the back but there is no pectoralis major showing such. Also due to the artifacts on the image looks like you draw really small and later on upscale things, drawing small might hurt on you on the long run. Hands are still off but you're getting there. I also feel there should be more distance between her upper and lower body.

[Anonymous No.4235485]

>>4235480
thank you anon, by the way how do i make it look like the body is twisting, i don't know how to do it.

[Anonymous No.4235516]

>>4232661

[Anonymous No.4235519]

[Anonymous No.4235525]

>>4235485
Right is my crude take on it on the right. Notice the middle body squishes at some point while the other side extends. You could also just have the hips facing the same direction has the upper body as the example on the left.

[Anonymous No.4235557]

>>4235525
thanks

[Anonymous No.4235573]

never commenting on this autist's work again lol >>4235505

[Anonymous No.4235664]

does this look weird

[Anonymous No.4235675]

>>4235664
head/face is too big

[Anonymous No.4235688]

>>4234679
Your stylization is well done you have obviously spent time learning to draw in an anime style but have glossed over planes of the head and real proportions of the face these look visually appealing but overly cartoonish and out of perspective in some if you want to improve your drawings then look into studying the broken down planes of the head so that your eyes and features really "click" with the face
Right now it seems as if you are drawing the head structure as an afterthought without putting as much effort into its construction as you should

[Anonymous No.4235697]

>>4233951
>not noticeable zoomed out
>looks like shit zoomed in
why do you want this

[Anonymous No.4235700]

I don't know how to practice.
What do I do to practice?

[Anonymous No.4235702]

>>4235700
whtas your current level? post work

otherwise everything lmao

[Anonymous No.4235705]

>>4235700
Draw cubes, cylinders, and cones in 1,2, and 3-point perspective and at all kind of angles (incl. extreme) until they are natural. Draw equal shapes at different positions on the same picture.
Then add lighting and shading to that.
Then add texture.
Then add color.

[Anonymous No.4235805]

>>4232668
My current level
>>4235664
>>4235380
>>4234062
>>4232668

[Anonymous No.4235807]

>>4235702
My current level
>>4235664
>>4235380
>>4234062
>>4232668

[Anonymous No.4235812]

I'm really interested in this construction style.
Where it looks really messy but it slowly comes together through.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4NOHPp-ZiY
I notice several other pixiv artists do this and it seems like a very japanese way of constructing. Has anybody here done something like this? Has it helpful for you. Any advice on doing so?
Would you recommend it?

[Anonymous No.4235818]

>>4235812
way of constructiion is different. depend on skill level

[Anonymous No.4235942]

>>4235807
you are stylizing when your basics/fundies are still /beg/, mid beg maybe, you need to learn anatomy to get better at conveying forms with a few lines which is used a lot on anime stuff.

heres a good example>>4232668 , this shows what i mean, you see that horizontal line in her left arm under her bicep or inner elbow, that line should only be enphasized when you bring your forearm close to your arm or any movement that pushes the muscles/skin of that area together, you fully drew the outline of that muscle in her neck, that muscle is mostly visible when you twist your neck, the hair... i now this is not a finished piece but look at the part in her forehead it looks flat and these small hanks of hair, looks like they are pointing forward not sure if that was your intention but it looks unnatural like the ones at the side at her face

these small details on her body actually requires you to know some fucking anatomy and for the hair you need a better understanding of 3D those mistakes should have been obvious to you since you are drawing on top of a circular mass just by following the contours.

so you take your pick; grind like a chink for some weeks or keep procrastinating that shit for ever

[Anonymous No.4236014]

>>4235812
The idea behind this is to loosely and quickly put things in the right place and then gradually refine things with line and value. Doing this helps prevents large mistakes (like misplacing a whole arm) and tunnel vision on details.
I don't think I'm good enough to recommend it myself over other methods but I feel like it helps me with digital art (I usually don't do this with traditional art). I'd imagine this being hard for beginners though since you have to create form and apply anatomy as you refine things down.
If you're gonna to try this, then make sure your initial sketch is loose and quick because if you hesitate too much then you'll probably defeat the purpose of not focusing on details early

[Anonymous No.4236045]

Guys I need your help. I've been sitting here for hours but no matter what I do the left hand always looks like shit. I feel like everything from forearm to fingers is too small but when I try to draw it bigger it ends up looking stubby and I can't find any good references. I'm not looking for any specific pose, the only requirement is that the ring finger has to be visible. I'd be grateful if you could draw or post something I could use.

[Anonymous No.4236053]

>>4236045

[Anonymous No.4236081]

>>4236053
Come on, do your worst, tell me how /beg/ I am, but at least say something please.

[Anonymous No.4236087]

>>4236081
Smugposters are literal brainlets who cant form coherent thoughts so they post the image of equivalent of "i know u are but what am i"

[Anonymous No.4236096]

>>4236081


>>4236087
red line it bro, school us.

[Anonymous No.4236097]

>>4236096
Haha what is this

[Anonymous No.4236104]

>>4236045
The hand is too small, the fingers and the palm are too short, there is no solid elbow visible either.

Here, in realistic proportions the hand is generally large enough to cover half of the face from the chin up to the browline. Obviously in animu this can be different as heads and faces usually are bigger and hands tend to be smaller buuuut they draw them proportionately smaller arms, shoulders and torsos as well.

The other thing that I can't really see on your hand is the placement of the pinky which if you look at your own hand is positioned lower than the other fingers which makes the pinky appear way shorter than it actually is. Next is that that the fingers and the palm are roughly the same length. Keep these rules of thumb (pun intended) in mind.

[Anonymous No.4236113]

>>4236104
Thank you, you're a life saver. That's exactly what I've been looking for.

[Anonymous No.4236124]

>>4236104
Face-to-hand ratio is a crapshoot way of measuring hands on anime since head sizes can drastically vary.

If you want something more consistent, use forearm-to-hand ratio (even that vary from artist to artist, so better find your own canon that you personally like).

[Anonymous No.4236476]

>>4230504


Hey anons, any tips to get better at rendering hair? Pic rel is my work.

Also, I feel my art is very messy compared to other artists I look at. How do you guys get cleaner?

[Anonymous No.4236486]

Looking through the thread, why are we so incapable of replicating the Nip's style? It's so obvious whenever a Western tryhard does it as if it is forced and unnatural as opposed to a goddamn Nip that seems to do it effortlessly.

[Anonymous No.4236488]

>>4236476
i think it looks good for the style your are going if you add more details it will conflict with the rest

[Anonymous No.4236491]

>>4236486
because the majority is still beg

[Anonymous No.4236522]

>>4236491
even /beg/ japanese drawings are obviously japanese

[Anonymous No.4236716]

>>4235942
i tried learning anatomy before but it's mainly just muscles, i don't really need these when drawing normal females.

[Anonymous No.4236719]

>>4236716
Dont fucking talk back lmao, you need to learn anatomy.

[Anonymous No.4236725]

>>4236719
i already know basic anatomy, why do i need to learn complex muscles when drawing anime?

[Anonymous No.4236727]

>>4236716
i tried to warn you bro.. .

[Anonymous No.4236732]

>>4236716
You... you know normal women have muscles though, right? Like you know that the muscles fat and bone structure is what dictates their shape, right? It would be prudent for you to keep learning anatomy because it will help you, no matter how stupid it may seem right now.

[Anonymous No.4236809]

How do i get better at faces? Are these decent enough?

[Anonymous No.4236810]

>>4236809
No, stop copying anime and start using Loomis.

[Anonymous No.4236813]

>>4236809
stop symbol drawing, back to roomis(fundies)

[Anonymous No.4236818]

>>4236810
>>4236813
What exactly is wrong with them?

[Anonymous No.4236823]

>>4236818
The faces lack form, yes even your dumb animu faces require form that follows perspective and foreshortening. You need to be conscious and understand the underlying topography and how forms are described in this heavily stylized surface. Copying from anime will not help you understand this concept especially when they deliberately eliminate this so it can be animated on a budget and look passable in motion.

[Anonymous No.4236872]

>>4236809
Stop focusing on making your sketches presentable and refined, sketches aren’t meant to be pretty. Focus on the faces in a 3D form by drawing them in various perspectives not just 3/4, I noticed when I constantly found myself drawing that comfortable angle it resulted in me not learning, otherwise they result in flat and unappealing piece of work. Try different expressions as well, see how mouths alter the jaw, don’t be afraid to leap out of your comfort zone, be sure to experiment.

[Anonymous No.4236875]

>>4230504
Help.

[Anonymous No.4236882]

>>4236875
Consider copying, you’ll know the rich machinations of eyes, hair, and finesse.

[Anonymous No.4236901]

>>4236875
What kind of help do you need?

[Anonymous No.4236929]

>>4236901
I want to know how to obtain beautiful lineart.
I was given a 3000x3000 canvas and a default G-pen at size 7-8 from the heavens yet have no other direction outside of copying the anime in hopes of cramming multiple years of experience within a month.

[Anonymous No.4236936]

>>4236929
Adjust your stabilizer, have varying lines and don’t rush it, clean up the intersecting lines. What program do you use?

[Anonymous No.4236937]

>>4236929
>3000x3000 canvas and a default G-pen at size 7-8 from the heavens
This is a good start
>no other direction outside of copying the anime in hopes of cramming multiple years of experience
Are you trying to learn how to draw or how to improve your lineart?
>within a month
I don't get this arbitrary deadline. Becoming a good artist usually take several years. It has never been an overnight process for anyone

[Anonymous No.4236942]

>>4236936
CSP, an artist I follow has said their stabilizer was 15.
>>4236937
I have lineart on a higher priority than being a flexible artist who does backgrounds and can do any pose. The urgency I insist on is to catch up with all the artists who are not only out of college, but take part in the same Fanzines as my favorite.

[Anonymous No.4236949]

>>4236872
It's an anime face how am i meant to make it 3d? All the faces i drew are copies of anime faces that i saw.

[Anonymous No.4236954]

>>4236813
>>4236810
Guys you are in the wrong thread this is /asg/ you are supposed to post your shitty memes at the /beg/ thread. We do animu here, if you want to scream LOOMIIIIZZZ at everyone then find a place where it actually is relevant.

Now leave!

[Anonymous No.4236956]

>>4236929
Fear not anon, with the power of iterating and enough patience you too can mold your content into something presentable.

[Anonymous No.4236962]

This should be included in OP's pastebin. Good site for people who are looking for animators' art books or character design settei.
http://setteidreams.net

[Anonymous No.4236963]

>>4236954
Loomis is relevant you retarded weeb.
>>4236956
It actually gets more and more soulless with each progression.

[Anonymous No.4236968]

>>4236963
If that anon could look as cute as the 1st he wouldn't be here.

[Anonymous No.4237030]

Back to the studies. The first two I set a time limit of 20 minutes. The last one had no time limit.

[Anonymous No.4237036]

>>4236963
>>4236810
>>4236813
How is loomis relevant for moe anime faces?

[Anonymous No.4237041]

>>4237036
>You need to be versatile in the ways you draw heads. You can’t just do facing left, right, or facing us then get away with it every time because people like the hair and eyes.

[Anonymous No.4237079]

please critique

[Anonymous No.4237092]

>>4237030
It had no time limit but did you at least time yourself to see how long that took you?

[Anonymous No.4237104]

>>4237030
>tfw no eye for color and tits like anon

[Anonymous No.4237126]

>>4237079
horrific

[Anonymous No.4237141]

>>4236949
Think of it in a 3D space and how it interacts with the objects around it, you get a better idea on how certain objects flow and where to place proportions properly. When you draw long hair you typically don’t draw it straight down, you think of it on a 3D plane such as place it it over the shoulders or blowing in the wind, this not only gives your piece movement but it also helps it’s giving your drawing more of a lifelike figure.
>tldr
Learn how to draw objects and don’t make them look flat and unappealing

[Anonymous No.4237149]

I'm never gonna make it

[Anonymous No.4237151]

>>4237149
Good thing that you've come to terms with it so now you can just focus on drawing and living.

[Anonymous No.4237156]

https://twitter.com/uMentalOW/status/1201187233623158784

[Anonymous No.4237206]

Does this look off? where abouts

[Anonymous No.4237210]

>>4237149
Nobody that likes posting in anime general is gonna make it.

Sorry guys but it's the truth. Anime thread is the NGMI thread

[Anonymous No.4237220]

>>4236522
no way, some of the tags depending on when you look like csp or sai are covered in awful jap beg pictures. tons of stuff looks deviantart tier

[Anonymous No.4237222]

>>4237036
>>4236716
Don't make me say the N word

[Anonymous No.4237258]

>>4236956
>using the spray to color
>using black to shadow

[Anonymous No.4237261]

>>4237258
No bully, it's not black. I just can't into saturation and color variation looking right.

[Anonymous No.4237268]

>>4237220
I am sorry to shatter your fantasy that everything is perfect in Japan Anon but there are thousands upon thousands of terrible deviantart tier artists in Japan as well.

[Anonymous No.4237269]

>>4237206
Lolis do not have cowtits

[Anonymous No.4237274]

>>4237269
Is that everything that's wrong with it?
How do i draw loli/flat tits then?

[Anonymous No.4237275]

>>4237274
Perky nipples no tits outine

[Anonymous No.4237279]

>>4237275
thanks, so like this?
with no lines

[Anonymous No.4237282]

>>4236929
does your shit has pressure sensitivity?

[Anonymous No.4237321]

>>4237079
It's a fine post but you have to fully commit to it. You chickened out and didn't push it to its limits so it looked ass.

I drew face a bit too wide so I decided to go full Homura.

[Anonymous No.4237322]

>>4237079
It's a fine pose but you can push it harder to its limits.

[Anonymous No.4237323]

>>4237268
That's the opposite of what I said, you misread it

[Anonymous No.4237343]

>>4237321
>>4237322
your homus torso looks flat and it's hard to read her right leg angle it looks like its aside view but her calves indicates a view from above and her left leg is definitely broken

the top one is following your left's lower leg placement and botton is using your upper leg

not a clean redline just wanted to show the angles

[Anonymous No.4237346]

HOMUBRO????

[Anonymous No.4237355]

*dabs*

[Anonymous No.4237357]

>>4237343
Thank you for your input. The goal of this exercise is capture the dynamism of pose as drawn by Yoh Yoshinari (which happen to be fairly close to what the OP has drawn). I don't really care about realism or muscles or broken legs as long as it is not stiff and filled with energy.

>>4237079
For you

[Anonymous No.4237363]

>>4237357
> I don't really care about realism or muscles or broken legs as long as it is not stiff and filled with energy.

... i hope you are not falling for the /alt/ '' i draw bad on purpose'' meme

[Anonymous No.4237365]

>>4237363
You can red line Yoh Yoshiniari all you want is what I'm saying. It's much more important to me that the drawing is not stiff than antomically correct.

[Anonymous No.4237368]

>>4237365
you retard, yoh yoshinari can only draw that way because he knows anatomy that well and from so much drawing/drawing from life

[Anonymous No.4237372]

>>4237368
You sound pretty mad for somebody who just red lined Yoh Yoshiniari.

[Anonymous No.4237375]

>>4237368
PS I deliberately drew the pose from Yoh since I knew some retard was going to red line it for anatomy. You're a cute one.

[Anonymous No.4237376]

>>4237372
im not him, is this guy you are talking about i dont see him making any anatomical errors like the pic you posted tho, i dont get your argument

[Anonymous No.4237377]

>>4237376
Then get lost since nobody cares about your opinion retard. pyw before talking to me.

[Anonymous No.4237381]

>>4237377
why are you so so mad? i did the redline, if your argument is if ''x'' draws this therefore it's impervious to critique you are delusional period, even murata fucked up some times and the chat help him to spot some mistakes. then again what's your point

[Anonymous No.4237386]

>>4230504
What's the best place to put your art on the internet? I've been drawing in the closet for years but people seem to like my stuff and I want to get it out there. Deviantart seems like a trashy place and I know a lot of people who post on Twitter but can you post nudity and porn there?

[Anonymous No.4237394]

>>4237381
There is no argument.

I think the pose is fine for what it is and you are free to red line as much as you want. Obviously you are quite skilled at anatomy but it's not very useful for me since that's not what I'm working on.

It is funny to me however there are people who just mindlessly hop on the anatomy bandwagon and end up indirectly criticizing on Yoh's work, and if they humiliate themselves in this thread that's a bonus. I mean his pose isn't perfect but it's still miles ahead of the /beg/ level of this thread.

[Anonymous No.4237395]

>>4237365
You also completely mistinterpreted what's going on in that little Yoshinari sketch which points to your lack of fundamentals and basic observation skills

[Anonymous No.4237400]

>>4237386
>post on Twitter but can you post nudity and porn there?
yes, but every chink i follow always censors the vag, tit nips are fine
but remember it's twater and the meoment they want you gone you are done

[Anonymous No.4237403]

>>4237394
He isn't redlining yoshinari, he's redlining your botched misinterpretation of the yoshinari sketch. Now go back and do your proper studies.

[Anonymous No.4237406]

>>4237395
>>4237403
I don't listen to the opinions of those that don't post their work. If you want a real discussion go draw your correct interpretation then come back. I'll wait.

[Anonymous No.4237415]

>>4237400
So what's the alternative? Is Deviantart fine if you just want a place to dump your drawings and not worry about it? Also can a western artist draw lolis and not get v&?

[Anonymous No.4237419]

>>4237394
i didnt checked this pic >>4237357 here you add'd his ''''''''''' SKETCH'''''''''' right? anyways that doesnt change anything about what i said, i redlined ''your'' work'', its pretty amusing that you deflect my criticism by using the name of that artist, you dont have the skills to translate that dynamic pose to your style, and yet you say im redlining that artits work? thats really upseting, anyways thats a sketch so you can argue that it's not 100% anatomically correct, but the fuck you expect from a sketch, thats why i posted >>4237376, he's not making any glaring mistakes here, to me at least, or anything at all.

thats my point against ''I don't really care about realism or muscles or broken legs'', you can have dinamyc poses and what not, this doesnt mean that it's okay to draw incorrectly which that artits is not doing.

[Anonymous No.4237428]

>>4237415
use twitter for exposure, not sure bout the loli thing, but i have noticed that almost if not all western artits that draw loli use pixiv or just post a cropped version and a link to a host.

but if you was want a sitre to dump, you use gelbooru ir any booru you can post whatever there

[Anonymous No.4237430]

>>4237419
I don't know why you are arguing with me since I pretty much agree with you that it isn't anatomically correct and it's based of a sketch which isn't 100% anatomically correct either.

[Anonymous No.4237433]

>>4237428
I always thought boorus were collections of images that people get from raiding artists' accounts elsewhere. Do artists themselves use boorus to post stuff they don't want to directly upload on sites where they have an account?

[Anonymous No.4237446]

>>4237433
yeah a lot of people do that, but just as a imagedump you won't get exposure from boorus even if you watermark with a link to any account, if that's what you want then boorus are fine

[Anonymous No.4237453]

>>4237446
I wouldn't watermark anything, as long as it has my name tagged. I noticed eastern artists don't usually sign their work. But western artists do and even put huge watermarks on it. I guess that's if someone is stealing their art?

[Anonymous No.4237456]

>>4237406
dynamism isn't a voodoo magic power that you get when you don't study construction and anatomy.
being a contrarian to universally applicable fundamental art principles will not help you become yoshinari, if that is what you're hoping for.

[Anonymous No.4237462]

>>4237453
most western artist want to sell their shit so they put some huge water mark on it or it's bc is a bonus for their patreons or something but usually is for advertisement

[Anonymous No.4237585]

>>4237456
You really should check yourself into the /beg/ thread.

According to you, the abdomen is crushed between the chest and pelvis is too acute. Then why is it when I move her leg up it improves the pose? Leaving even less room for the "crushed" abdomen. You can't even observe the obvious when you have both the pose and drawing next to each other.

PS: post your work means post your work (you know stuff that you've drawn), not your idiotic thoughts onto a picture. Don't bother replying unless you post your actual work, because I won't bother replying.

[Anonymous No.4237589]

>>4237585
>According to you, the abdomen is crushed between the chest and pelvis*.

[Anonymous No.4237608]

>>4237585
The problem was not the height of the legs, but the implied tilt of the pelvis which is slightly more fixed in this iteration. Look closer at the angle between the rib cage and pelvis

But in any case it looks like you're successfully applying some of my advice there despite not wanting to admit it, so you still get some points for that. The construction is still off in some places, but you'll get there eventually.

Just work on your attitude, open your mind and you'll learn a lot faster. Good luck :)

[Anonymous No.4237618]

>>4237275
>>4237279

[Anonymous No.4237620]

>>4237608
Cheers senpai. Being a jaded fuck helps to weed out bad advice most of the time.

[Anonymous No.4237625]

>>4237357
>>4237365
Learn Anatomy then practice Gesture drawing instead. Yoh Yoshinari knows anatomy. But his poses are "Dynamic" and "Loose" because he is able to simplify it into gestures. Has nothing to do with ignoring anatomy

[Anonymous No.4237641]

I don't fucking understand textures. Like at all.
Oh yeah sure get some textures on a CG site and use overlay.
Sure use mesh transformation so the texture has the right form.
But how the hell are they getting such smooth and seamless wrap up???? It just doesn't make any sense, there has to be a trick. Mesh trans is really slow on high res textures too.

[Anonymous No.4237645]

>>4237386
Twitter is fine with porn but like someone else said, you can be gone at any moment. It's shitty as a platform but it's the "best" really. Instagram you can post SFW stuff on, nothing too risque but if you want to build a fanbase then it can't hurt there. This also has the added benefit of being able to report people that try to steal your work and post as their own/try to sell it. Shitheads impersonate artists all the time on social media platforms. Pixiv is another place, you can post porn but have to abide by Japanese obscenity laws, hence some censoring genitals but nipples are fine.

Everything sucks, you can host your own site to post whatever you want provided your host doesn't care. That's the only way to have a consistent gallery/portfolio. There are other porn places but it's all about what you want to draw. There's hentaifoundry and some other adult places but nothing has the reach that twitter and instagram do. I wouldn't recommend dA at all because as you said, trash.

>>4237620
>Being a jaded fuck helps to weed out bad advice most of the time.
Not really when you're as much of a sperg as yourself.

[Anonymous No.4237651]

>>4230504
Bros what’s a semi-healthy monthly salary? I might be a part of the starving artist meme if college programming doesn’t go well.

[Anonymous No.4237655]

>>4237651
what country? i can live as a king with 600 usd monthly

[Anonymous No.4237659]

>>4237651
What are you doing in college?
And if you need money just make degenerate furryshit on the sides.

[Anonymous No.4237664]

>>4237655
SoCalifornia.
>>4237659
Computer Science, I dread the upcoming Cs I might get and pray that next semester is both useful and has reasonable assignments.

[Anonymous No.4237668]

>>4237664
Nice. If I were you I'd consider focusing more on 3D modeling

>California
Don't fall for the commie meme.

[Anonymous No.4237679]

>>4237651
Foolish anon, anime is sold in cheap fast food prices.
You’ll be doing 7 drawings per week for $27 apiece to compensate for you being a nobody.

[Anonymous No.4237712]

>>4236486
>effortlessly
The Nips are humble people. They will not drone on about the hours of frustration sweat and tears, that went into getting their work to an aesthetically pleasing level. They are also human beings and many simply will not upload their less impressive work. Most artists laugh and downplay the work/effort they put into something to make them look that smidge more skillful. We're all struggling to make it. If it was so effortless, I'd be able to do it.

[Anonymous No.4237719]

>>4237585
What an ungrateful little bastard. You'll never get better thinking you are better than you actually are. Get a trip so we can never bother with you again.

[Anonymous No.4237723]

>>4237618
i wanna cum in koume

[Anonymous No.4237739]

>>4237679
>7 per week just to pay rent.
Not him but please tell me this isn’t true. I usually comms in packs of 4 for higher prices.

[Anonymous No.4237747]

>>4237712
I'd probably fall for your post if it wasn't for the fact that even beg tier illustrations have that same sense of it coming from outside of the West. I don't know if it has something to do with the line quality or the economy of lines or the way they imply shape and form with minimal details but the point is that even beginners have that same aesthetic that seemingly comes naturally from that region. I've heard rumors that it has something to do with they way their writing system is with lots of curves and showing emphasis on the minor details of their moon runes that makes big differences in their meanings and that somehow transfers onto their art.

[Anonymous No.4237759]

>>4230504
Total beginner, want to learn how to draw anime/manga as making some rpgmaker games and want to add my own art, yes, its going to be partially hentai, before you ask.
Anyway want to learn and have put aside about 2h a day to do this once i start, but the resources you linked while they look great are... overwhelming, i dont know what i dont know, and dont know what i need to know before i can even start exploring so many options...
Which 3 books should i look to read to start?
I want to do first manually on paper, and then switch to digital as it has a lot more options/ease i think, not to mention that way its already there and no need to digitize it.
Does practice with pen transfer to practice with tablet at all? Or not worth doing pen at all?
I'll do the 1000 sheets practice, sounds very japanese'y so why not. Good clear goals.

[Anonymous No.4237771]

>>4237759
Godspeed Anon!

[Anonymous No.4237772]

>>4237759
>Which 3 books should i look to read to start?
Fun with a pencil by Andrew Loomis, drawing the head and hands by Andrew Loomis and Successful Drawing from Andrew Loomis.

[Anonymous No.4237782]

>>4237747
There's an element of truth to that. They are surrounded by cute stylized things and faces. It's much easier to find things like that to draw there. More of it is taught to kids in their coloring, connect-the-dot, and sketching books. Does that mean Westerners can't learn it? Are you dense? They're lines on a page. You wanna draw cute? Draw cute. You want anime? Draw anime. You'll suck until you actually try to learn and not apply the half assed form of learning School forces us to adopt to art. It's hard work but plenty have done it. If you think being non-Japanese means you can't draw stylistically like them, you're actually not going to make it. What you do say and think effects how you perform. If you tell yourself you can't, then you can't, so tell yourself you can, and you will. "do the thing and you will have the power"

[Anonymous No.4237784]

>>4237772
Even if you want to go only to anime/manga style art and not realistic/western style?
Ok, those should build a foundation I imagine...
Which 1 manga style book would you recommend?

[Anonymous No.4237785]

>>4237759
im pretty sure everyone will agree about having a good fundation to being with it just like riding a bike you can't do all that crazy shit that pros do even if you have someone at your side telling you exactly what you need to do.

if you have never picked a pen before it's going to be a long journey this isnt something that you can just smash your head drawing 99999times and you are good, a lot of people are shit even after years of ''practice'', so be aware of that.

if i could go back on time and study correctly i would say that draw a box until you can grasp the forms of anything
then you can go with an anatomy book and then you can start stylizing with anime.

depending on how good you want be you can either focus more or less on some studies

[Anonymous No.4237794]

>>4237785
I have some very, very basic knowledge, i used to draw anatomy but the proportions weren't very good, even if the drawing itself was alright, sometimes doodle etc. But as you say its something that needs actual theoretical and practical foundations, so i'm seeking those.
I'm a faster learner and learning is one of my hobbies, i know it will take time, im fully prepared for that, and quite enjoy the headbutting period.
I want to be good, there is no point in doing something if you are ok with mediocrity or "good enough", i spend too much time on the computer and need some more constructive/creative hobbies, especially outside of the computer so thought it would be good!
Thank you, any suggestions are welcome.

[Anonymous No.4237799]

>>4237794
used to draw anatomy from corpses and books i mean, and no not serial killer, was during cadaver classes, thought at the time it was a great way to start learning to draw and get over the initial repugnant feeling. Worked for a while but then got too busy with life and stopped :(

[Anonymous No.4237806]

>>4237799
if you have any drawing for you to post that will be great so people dont make any bad assumptions, maybe you are not ubber /beg/ or something.

[Anonymous No.4237811]

>>4237806
This was some 8 years ago, so i rather start from basics anyway. I dont have anything recent, or access to the old ones.
At the stage of wanting to buy supplies, so also need to know if should go straight digital, or use analog for a while then switch?

[Anonymous No.4237815]

Drawing sketches feels unnerving, I know it's supposed to look like shit to draw over it but still.

[Anonymous No.4237817]

how can i do this line effect in photoshop?
any fast way without having to manually duplicate one line

[Anonymous No.4237827]

>>4237817
I don't know about photoshop but Clip Studio Paint has it as a preset, maybe photoshop has an additional materials tool

[Anonymous No.4237844]

>>4237811
if you have access to go with digital then do it but before you do, you need to draw at least for 2 or 3 weeks on traditional , this is so you can get used to your motor skills so when you switch to digital you know when it's a sofware problem and not you sucking ass, if you skip this you may not tell the difference. as for digital tablets if you ahve the money go with wacom it's almost like drawing on paper you wont notice any changes, if you choice other brands do a good research some of then are good and others are shit.

[Anonymous No.4237852]

>>4237844
Wacom, and some practice on paper at least. Thank you anon

[Anonymous No.4237870]

>>4237092
I didn't calculate exactly but it took a lot of time, like 3~4h

[Anonymous No.4237932]

>>4237719
Cope harder

[Anonymous No.4237988]

When mapping the face should the eyes cross the middle of the horizontal line?

[Anonymous No.4238051]

How can I replicate this art style?
It has warmth and depth but uses sparing shading.

[Anonymous No.4238053]

[Anonymous No.4238055]

>>4237988
this horizontal line would be a bit lower than middle of the ball
so either way its up to what you want to map by which line

[Anonymous No.4238071]

>>4238053
you should study each feature first of the face separately and then use this to place them properly, but i feel ike you are having problems even to keep the proportions right of these meme balls...

[Anonymous No.4238077]

>>4237988
>bottom right
wait, I remember that pose...

[Anonymous No.4238185]

any critiques for my heads? trying to work on my expressions but they don't feel as expressive as top tier mangakas

[Anonymous No.4238195]

drew hands, i wish i knew how to construct them

[Anonymous No.4238200]

>>4237651
become a hobbyist instead. CS is pretty stable and good in pay.

>t. senior programmer

[Anonymous No.4238229]

>>4238200
just code lol

[Anonymous No.4238242]

>>4238185
They don’t even look like faces drawn by bottom tier mangakas. First they are flat. The eyes look like a sticker stuck on the skin, they are also too big. The hair is also flat and everyone got the same sawtooth haircut. Ear placement is off and so is neck placement.

[Anonymous No.4238259]

>>4238242
How can I make my eyes look rounder? I agree they look flat and I hate it. Can you redline the eyes for me?

[Anonymous No.4238269]

>>4238259
>How can I make my eyes look rounder?

[Anonymous No.4238276]

>>4238269
I see

[Anonymous No.4238287]

Could you tell me where my anatomy is off?

[Anonymous No.4238310]

I feel so embrassed my self and dead inside when i'm doing practice. shit ton of underdog include me practicing for nothing. And other people are mubbling shit on twitter and acting like normies
Anyway practice is just duty to me at this point. I just can't estimate how much longer will take for git gud because i can't even judge i'm doing good all of my friend quitted even they're better than me

[Anonymous No.4238326]

>>4237357
>>4237368
>>4237585
good taste, anon, i love studying yoh yoshinari's stuff too! go ahead and redline my shitty drawing, /asg/. but just know that you're redlining yoh yoshi-fucking-nari when you do it

[Anonymous No.4238337]

>>4238185
like the other anon said your heads are far from good in the sense of having good proportions, and you are already trying to stylze.., all the heads except for the one at the bottom left, their expressions are not that bad, if you did these from memory, the problem is with the one at the botton left, i can see that you tried to keep the proportions of the mouth aligned with the face and nose which is good the problem is that you are drawing a SD(super deformed) expression like goku when he screams or retarded laughs, and in those cases you may need to choose if you want to keep it fully 3D proportianally or stylize it and omit some of the proportions, this happens a lot in anime drawings, like that infamous side mouth of k-on. In your drawing the mouth is too wide and it seems that it made you draw the face wider or is the mouth just to wide? it can work but you will need to know what parts of the face keep it correctly proportionally and which not.

i would recomend you to focus on your heads proportions first, they are not that bad tho.

in the green line you can see how the mouth doesnt follow the proportions completely, but the middle of the mouth is still aligned with the face.
your eyebrows make your face look almost like a flat surface which also makes it harder to read the expression. theres alot more but fuck it im going to sleep.

[Anonymous No.4238338]

>>4238326
more like anon's redline

[Anonymous No.4238346]

>>4238338
psst! keep it down, it looks like the thread's become constructive again so i didn't want to derail it winkyface

[Anonymous No.4238416]

>>4238259
Enjoy!

[Anonymous No.4238417]

>>4238337
Yikes!

[Anonymous No.4238447]

>>4238416
this actually helps, I posted the original sketches, thank you

[Anonymous No.4238450]

>>4238447
Here is a picture to remind you to never draw a flat face again.

[Anonymous No.4238616]

>>4237817
bump?

[Anonymous No.4239163]

>>4236725
because anime is based on reality man, you take the shapes of normal peoples muscles and then simplify them
if you dont know anatomy you dont know in which way you should simplify, like the other anon said with your neck and arm

[Anonymous No.4239556]

What brush should i use for csp?
I can't find a decent one to use.
What brush do you guys use?

[Anonymous No.4239581]

>>4239556
There's a secret best one if you enter the konami code

[Anonymous No.4239664]

Should I study real children in refference for lolis?
Honest question.

[Anonymous No.4239673]

>>4239664
actually no, just learn basic anatomy then use loli refs and deconstruct the muscles there and practice with your new landmarks

[Anonymous No.4239758]

What do I work on now?
I don't know how to improve.
All I do is figure sketching on sketchdaily.net and copy anime.
I already learnt anatomy from hampton figure drawing and invention and I went through loomis' fun with a pencil.
I still suck.
What do I do now?

[Anonymous No.4239924]

>>4239758
>and copy anime.
Show us some of those copies senpai

[Anonymous No.4239958]

>>4239758
>I already learnt anatomy

X

[Anonymous No.4239972]

>>4239958
So in not done learning?
What do I do next?

[Anonymous No.4239982]

>>4239924
I just did this in about 10 mins now.

[Anonymous No.4239989]

>>4239972
actually learn anatomy

[Anonymous No.4239990]

>>4239982

[Anonymous No.4239994]

>>4239990
Is it that bad?

[Anonymous No.4239995]

>>4239982
You can do better than that. Spend a whole day and get all the colours in exactly right.

[Anonymous No.4240029]

>>4239989
How do I learn anatomy then? I already went through Hampton.

[Anonymous No.4240035]

>>4240029
pyw or kys retard

[Anonymous No.4240037]

>>4240035
Just posted this>>4239982

[Anonymous No.4240072]

>>4240035
Wow it's almost like the crabs don't even read the thread anymore before they start posting "pyw". Honestly, this is why nobody should give you idiots the time of day.

[Anonymous No.4240082]

>>4239664
For hentai - yes.
For fun - no.

[Anonymous No.4240097]

>>4240082
Nice try FBI agent. You're not going to entrap anyone here because anons not stupid enough to be looking that shit up.

[Anonymous No.4240160]

how can i put my picture- background naturally?
official tutorial is not working for shit somehow

[Anonymous No.4240404]

ahh

[Anonymous No.4240405]

[Anonymous No.4240406]

[Anonymous No.4240657]

Bump
>>4239758
I'm desperate, I have no clue what to do to improve or what to work on.

[Anonymous No.4240825]

Is 3000 x 4000 at 300dpi the true ancient japanese wisdom for clean lineart?

[Anonymous No.4241036]

>>4239758
Increase accuracy of proportion until you can draw from imagination this phase don't require complex anatomy knowledge

[Anonymous No.4241042]

>>4241036
Thank you.

[Anonymous No.4241052]

There's any secret to make smoother lines on CSP or should I master myself to stop trembling?

[Anonymous No.4241061]

>>4241052
increase stabilisation

[Anonymous No.4241089]

>>4241052
Max out the stabiliser
Draw at 10000x10000 at 1000 dpi
Use SAI

[Anonymous No.4241105]

>>4236522
looks like a shitty western deviantart. your point?

[Anonymous No.4241155]

did i mess up too much?

[Anonymous No.4241318]

I'm the guy who posted those faces yesterday looking for critiques. First of all, thanks to the people who gave me legit advice, I listened. Second, here's some new expressions. Looking for more tips.

[Anonymous No.4241354]

any idea what Yoh meant by this

[Anonymous No.4241374]

please critique

[Anonymous No.4241397]

>>4241374
lines look scratchy, you need to be able to draw long lines and curves without picking up your instrument
lineweights are bad overall
head looks detached from neck
skirt perspective is fucked
her arms look flat
face looks flat and bland

other than that good job, keep at it

[Anonymous No.4241408]

>>4241397
How do I make faces not flat?

[Anonymous No.4241593]

I don't get it, most anime faces I see are flat, why are you guys so hung up on making it not flat? When you do that it starts to look western.

[Anonymous No.4241596]

>>4241593
>most anime faces I see are flat
you're probably just unable to interpret the forms
>why are you guys so hung up on making it not flat? When you do that it starts to look western.
some truth in this, but even non-western anime faces have a 3d structure

[Anonymous No.4241630]

>>4241374
Are these drawings from reference? Can you post the reference for comparison?

[Anonymous No.4241766]

>>4241630

[Anonymous No.4242545]

New thread:
>>4242544
>>4242544
>>4242544