Video Course Thread #5

[Anonymous No.4228784]

Constructive figure drawing 1-3 - https://mega.nz/#F!xhohmbIR!Z9Sg85jVRTc6_Ea1YZdvCg
Vilppu stuff - https://mega.nz/#F!RIx3TJxJ!_Nna8t01kPxENJ8KSzXqwg!EUJHgKAZ
Russian Drawing Course - https://mega.nz/#F!v8cVRIpY!I7lqQezZrA99ZifIiRbgEw
Hampton's Analytical Figure Drawing Course https://mega.nz/#F!8qA2FLDQ!9ADn1WRz-YcH7H9M3i11dg
Proko portrait drawing - https://mega.nz/#F!0NkRBJoa!Il717YoIbJjIAk4rJba5SA
Proko figure drawing - https://mega.nz/#F!gpAyxSYK!wRqIgzf8Eh8S7hw0rU8UDw
Youtube channel that posts paid courses - https://youtube.com/channel/UCcvUM85KAlonlxJK5J9ntgw/playlists
CGMA Art of color and light - https://mega.nz/#F!CHBUEahQ!YmW9EueacdNsKW3mZYGRRA
Digital Painting Marco Bucci - https://mega.nz/#F!KKA0UQiA!IQZo0gy_yH5OAwKsPEIdqg
Ty Carter Color -https://mega.nz/#F!DKRDBSgD!tNWAYvCAqVzxZBq4gO9yiA
Vitruvian Studio Portrait Drawing - https://mega.nz/#F!JU9F3B5Y!s4YlpJfOkOlkOSsCvX5F6g
Digital Drawing Correction?Figure Tutorial? - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLd9YlgrhwWqCSiGwPwA_N_nqKfTLY1Kn8
Karl Gnass Spirit of the Pose (NMA I think) - https://mega.nz/#F!30o2QCya!TWMgOxPJlGXWydwoS1czdg
Karl Gnass Spirit of the Post missing part 4 - https://mega.nz/#F!7ngkTYiT!dFHIw9uFBbMih9KHApd2Yw
female anatomy vol 2 sakimi chan -
https://www118.zippyshare.com/v/lwYNyxAH/file.html
https://www118.zippyshare.com/v/M7vqZrlq/file.html
https://www118.zippyshare.com/v/Dbw2B4Qt/file.html
https://www118.zippyshare.com/v/oUvFyg3N/file.html
Steve Huston (?) Beginner Head Drawing - https://mega.nz/#F!glxFwLaa!cdBL0K-MOuZbtQYoRR4cBQ
Steve Huston Advanced Head Drawing - https://mega.nz/#F!WsVy1ChK!17B0OTg-UBnPB8mwXy1U8Q

Happy Drawing!

[Anonymous No.4228786]

Anyone to pool money for the Will Weston courses?

[Anonymous No.4228800]

>>4228786
ask in the discord, https://discord.gg/krpEecy

[Anonymous No.4228841]

previous thread:
>>/ic/thread/S4154583#p4154583

[Anonymous No.4228896]

anyone have this https://www.artstation.com/htartist/store/y7M8/fundamentals-course-a-guide-for-starters-in-art

[Anonymous No.4228945]

>>4228896

Go to the discord link above and ask about the ongoing pool.

[Anonymous No.4229015]

>>4228896
We have a pool open. We are waiting for one guy till Friday but the more people that pitch the cheaper it'll be for all of us.

[Anonymous No.4229171]

Proko Anatomy

https://mega.nz/#F!UC5FDCCL!q7aDFUj9ebh3Eh1ikQDqhQ

[Anonymous No.4229265]

I like Steve Huston's teaching style. Got anymore courses by him besides the Head Drawing?

[Anonymous No.4229766]

>>4228784
Don't die, thread-kun...

[Anonymous No.4230050]

Any of you mighty sex gods is powerfull enough to link for us NMA for begginers videos?

You'll be blessed with many many terrible things if you do ^^

[Anonymous No.4230106]

Anyone have marshall vandruffs perspective videos?

[Anonymous No.4230117]

>>4230106
it's on cgp

[Anonymous No.4230124]

>>4230117
cgp?

[Anonymous No.4230129]

>>4230124
cgpeers.com the registration opens on the 15th

[Anonymous No.4230448]

Does anyone have this or anything similar? Still Life Painting – The Online Course by vitruvian studios https://vitruvianstudio.com/course/still-life-painting/

[Anonymous No.4231669]

>>4230448
>https://vitruvianstudio.com/course/still-life-painting/


I would be interested in that. Maybe sign in to the Discord channel mentioned above and we will do a pool?

[Anonymous No.4231700]

Anyone got NMA Renaissance Head Drawing?

[Anonymous No.4231969]

anyone have all the moderndayjames gumroads?

[Anonymous No.4232430]

>>4228896
any update on this one?

[Anonymous No.4232495]

>>4232430
If you want it you have less than 14 hours to pitch to the pool on discord.

[Anonymous No.4232781]

>>4231669
Can you post about this in group
I joined..

[Anonymous No.4233278]

>>4228784
I wish /3/ had a video course thread.

[Anonymous No.4233300]

>>4228784
Which of these are actually worth downloading?

[Anonymous No.4233307]

>>4228786
I want to pitch in for this too, but I think we have enough people in /ic/ like him enough to distribute the fund.

[Anonymous No.4233310]

>>4229171
Bless you anon.

[Anonymous No.4233315]

>>4233307
don't think*

[Anonymous No.4233353]

>>4233278
You have free resources thread, polycount, 80lvl, zbrushcentral, the list goes on and on, anon.

[Anonymous No.4233370]

>>4233353
most of those are just textures and models.
there are not that many pro instructors breaking down their process.

[Anonymous No.4233410]

>>4233370
Use zbrush and follow along with traditional sculpting videos

[Anonymous No.4233418]

>>4233300
vilppu, proko, russian drawing course.

[Anonymous No.4233436]

>>4230050
Yeah I'm not about to give out my email and real name watermarked all over the videos and get banned forever. sorry not worth it

[Anonymous No.4233463]

>>4233418
>>4233300
>Russian drawing course
seconding this, the fundementals stuff really helped me get my measurements right.

Anyone got past that though? I stopped when I got to the skull lectures (right after the Asari head), the later leactures didn't actually seem that helpful
Or atleast I thought the muscular anatomy stuff was way too advanced for me.

[Anonymous No.4233583]

>>4233307
Another anon here that would be willing to pitch in for this one too.

[Anonymous No.4233592]

>>4233436
AFAIK only CGMA does that. NMA doesn't have the IQ and technical know-how to do that.

[Anonymous No.4233799]

>Youtube channel that posts paid courses - https://youtube.com/channel/UCcvUM85KAlonlxJK5J9ntgw/playlists


Channel has already been copyright strike'd. People definitely watch these threads.

[Anonymous No.4233844]

>>4233592
Then why is it that when I start a video my name and email are watermarked over it dude? Oh but they don't have the tech to do it. Right.

[Anonymous No.4233891]

>>4233799
So pros do lurk /ic/ after all

[Anonymous No.4233896]

>>4233799
Or it's the losers on this board that fuck with shit just for fun. >_> you know we do have people here that do that kind of shit, right?

[Anonymous No.4234111]

>>4233799
Shit, was it the one that uploaded those premium CTRL+Paint videos?

[Anonymous No.4234114]

>>4233844
I never seen that before. Maybe they started doing it, I dunno. It's not impossible to get rid of watermarks but if it's flashing all over the video it's not worth the energy to remove.

[Anonymous No.4234116]

>>4234114
Exactly my issue with saving this shit and uploading it for you guys. If my fucking name and email weren't on it, or if they were at least stationary, it would be no problem.

[Anonymous No.4234117]

>>4233891
Maybe that was their revenge for /ic/ getting jelly and abusing them for telling y'all to study your fundies lmao

[Anonymous No.4234239]

>>4234116
I wonder why most distributors/education sites don't take advantage of this as a way to thwart pirates.

[Anonymous No.4234404]

>>4233799
>>4233891
there was 1 anon who claimed to alert all the rights holders.

[Anonymous No.4234623]

>>4228786
>>4233307
>>4233583
some already has Will Weston courses on discord, they are trading

[Anonymous No.4234635]

>>4230129
And on the 1th. Tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.4236196]

Looking for:

Inking Phase I https://www.wattsatelier.com/shop/inking-phase-i/

Inking Phase II https://www.wattsatelier.com/shop/inking-phase-ii/

Inking Phase III https://www.wattsatelier.com/shop/inking-phase-iii/

[Anonymous No.4236298]

>>4234404
I for one will alert them to take all of this down once i have gotten the materials i want.
The art world is hard enough as it is so i need to reduce the chances of any of you getting good.

[Anonymous No.4236312]

>>4236298
jokes on you my hard drive is already full of the stuff I wanted.

[Anonymous No.4236320]

>>4236312
And have you reported this thread?
If you haven't youre ngmi.

[Anonymous No.4236404]

>>4236196
seconding this

[Anonymous No.4236508]

>>4236196
Never going to happen, all their videos were only pirated in one swoop years ago.

[Anonymous No.4236526]

I'm looking for Hyun Jin Kim's skull course, does anyone have a link for it?

[Anonymous No.4236553]

>>4236526
Looks stupid. Scott Eaton has superior information on the skull.

[Anonymous No.4236600]

>>4236553
Thanks, do you have any of his skull videos, or are they easily findable through the archives?

[Anonymous No.4237148]

>>4228784
why don't people use torrents anymore? whats with this fucking stupid download limit shit

[Anonymous No.4237189]

>>4237148
Delete cookies

[Anonymous No.4237191]

>>4237189
how would that help

[Anonymous No.4237194]

>>4237191
Do it faggot

[Anonymous No.4237277]

>>4234111
I got them from rutrackers

[Anonymous No.4237622]

what video would you guys recommend for a beginner to start with?

[Anonymous No.4237654]

Links keep going down, who the fuck is reporting them?

[Anonymous No.4237968]

Does the new masters academy has a curriculum at all or it is just the videos? Planning on buying it since I have no direction and dont know which one is step A or B

[Anonymous No.4237992]

nma has new landscape painting course anyone have it?

[Anonymous No.4239355]

What are the best courses on animal anatomy?

[Anonymous No.4239409]

>>4239355
Unironically Proko.
then move on to birdgeman

[Anonymous No.4239410]

>>4239355
Aaron Blaise

[Anonymous No.4239411]

>>4239355
Aaron Blaise how to draw big cats/wolves on cgp

[Anonymous No.4239835]

>>4239410
can someone upload to mega, please?

[Anonymous No.4239844]

>>4239410
>>4239835
Seconding this.

[Anonymous No.4240139]

>>4230117
It's not there anymore

[Anonymous No.4240759]

Anyone want to get some of the remaining Foundation Patreon videos that aren't on cgpeers?

[Anonymous No.4240765]

>>4239410
Also I think his course is on sale for $35 right now, it is the best time to pool or buy.

[Anonymous No.4240766]

>>4229265
First link constructive figure drawing, really helpful.

[Anonymous No.4242438]

bump

[Anonymous No.4242512]

>>4239844
Would take forever to upload 15GB.

[Anonymous No.4243590]

>>4237992

Seconding this. Want to see a few landscapes being done by ben.
Anyone want to upload a few to watch over the weekend?
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.4244596]

Noah Bradley - Art Camp 3?

[Anonymous No.4244609]

>>4244596
pic related

[Anonymous No.4244723]

Anyone have any recommendations for digital painting rendering? I've never done any painting in my life and I have no idea where to start

[Anonymous No.4244987]

>>4244723
Rendering? Dorian Iten's is objectively the best class. It teaches many important things I've never seen other courses teach, It's concise, and the order for the videos is perfect.

[Anonymous No.4245739]

>>4244987
Thank you! I will check it out immediately!

[Anonymous No.4246011]

anyone as:
Will weston?
Michael Mantler?

[Anonymous No.4246031]

>>4244596

Check the discord channel, maybe someone would like to pool:

https://discord.gg/mGyKXZr

[Anonymous No.4246355]

>>4236298
based

[Anonymous No.4246433]

>>4244987
Where could I find this course if you don't mind me asking?

[Anonymous No.4246494]

Discord is pooling money for CGMA courses, for less than 22$ you will get 2 courses, environment sketching + perspective on CGMA, join and pitch if you want to know more

[Anonymous No.4246695]

>>4246494
Im in, where is the link

[Anonymous No.4246717]

>>4246695
https://discord.gg/mGyKXZr

[Anonymous No.4246798]

>>4246433
cgpeers

[Anonymous No.4246818]

>>4246494
group buy for the motion graphics class?
https://www.cgmasteracademy.com/courses/28-motion-graphics

[Anonymous No.4246858]

>>4246818
This isn't the 3D board.

[Anonymous No.4246866]

>>4246818
ask people in the discord

[Anonymous No.4248349]

bumo

[Anonymous No.4249835]

Cgpeers seems to be down right now.
Was going to download dynamic sketching by peter han.
I'm new to cgpeers, does this happen often?

[Anonymous No.4250299]

>>4249835
happens every now and then, sometimes they're gone for days, so just keep checking

[Anonymous No.4250429]

>>4250299
I hope so, I was about to download something as well.

[Anonymous No.4251147]

>>4250429
And is still down...fughhh

[Anonymous No.4251171]

Nobody have any of the landscape videos from new masters? Don't mind which one, just want to have something to watch tonight. Thanks :)

[Anonymous No.4251539]

anyone got cgma dynamic sketching?

[Anonymous No.4252159]

>>4251539
Both parts are on cgpeers

[Anonymous No.4252297]

Anyone got courses from SVSLearn here or should I go elsewhere?

[Anonymous No.4252903]

>>4251539
It’s up on CGpeers, as is peter han’s excellent book.

[Anonymous No.4252912]

>>4236196
So how do Watt's videos work again?
Is it literally just video demos?

Because I remember another Watts thread where someone said there's live lessons/demos you NEED and that the clips are just "supplementary"

[Anonymous No.4252915]

>>4252159
>>4252297
But the page is down again AHHHHHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.4252924]

HELP a BRAINLET NGMI:

How do you save the files with the Mega download limit?

[Anonymous No.4254462]

>>4228784
Peter Han does free livestreams where he explains a lot of stuff and draws from imagination https://www.twitch.tv/peterhanstyle/videos

[Anonymous No.4255028]

>>4254462
thanks, he explains some things way better in these streams than in the Dynamic Sketching class

[Anonymous No.4255041]

>>4252912
Manga source?

[Anonymous No.4255044]

>>4246355
What's the source on that VN, chief?

[Anonymous No.4255070]

There are various artist shilling video courses on proko's videos, i know its because its proko video, but they say they wish all the knowledge was online on their time.

Do you find learning from video courses easier then books?

[Anonymous No.4255077]

>>4255070
>Do you find learning from video courses easier then books?
I don't know about you but my reading speed is abhorrently slow to the point of sometimes having to reread sentences midway. A 20 minute anime episode (subbed) can take me 30+ min.

>Do you find learning from video courses easier then books?
Depends on how well the course is made.

[Anonymous No.4255080]

How much of Vilppu's "Essentials" is fluff?

[Anonymous No.4255270]

>>4255041
Here's a full page, you can do the rest

[Anonymous No.4255369]

Someone tell me about Kim Jung Gi's Perspective course. Is it impossible to understand unless you've already figured out perspective?
I know that this guy can't teach but is it worth watching anyway?

[Anonymous No.4257311]

>Schoolism 290GB upload on cg
Based.

[Anonymous No.4257365]

>>4257311
that same torrent has been on gfxpeers for a year and a half

[Anonymous No.4257427]

Isn't it 15th? Why can't you register to cgpeers?

[Anonymous No.4259659]

Request:
Moderndayjames cloth Pack

Anyone care to share?

[Anonymous No.4260927]

Anybody have Ramon Hurtado's gumroad videos or any of his patreon images? Also anyone have Huston's art philosophy course? Love listening to the guy talk

[Anonymous No.4260930]

Strange request: something that helps with reading speed and information retention?

I already asked here >>4258498 and searched for resources but there are more ads for so-called guides etc. than actual information.

Why do I ask? The faster one can read (and retain information) the more books can be worked through.

[Anonymous No.4262646]

So does CGPeers still open it's doors for registration on the 1st and the 15th every month or did they stop?
Is it still possible to get an invite or am I shit outta luck?

[Anonymous No.4263260]

>>4259659
>>4259789

[Anonymous No.4263468]

Anyone got anything from Eaton? I hear his anatomy and skull stuff is apparently so good that's all I ever need.

[Anonymous No.4263471]

>>4263468
It is, he is that good lf a teacher, the courses are on cgpeers.

[Anonymous No.4263477]

>>4263471
Is there any place other than that place?

[Anonymous No.4263542]

how do people pay for pools

[Anonymous No.4263731]

>>4263468
>>4263468
eaton's method of explaining anatomy is probably the clearest and most detailed i've seen. You do however need to put in a lot of work inside and outside of his homeworks to try to really remember and use that information. The amount of information he presents is sort of a double edged sword, there's just so must information that you need to really use it a lot to remember it properly.

[Anonymous No.4266401]

>>4263542
Check the discord
https://discord.gg/krpEecy

If anyone is interested, a mega trade is going on that discord, you get all these courses by contributing a single course similar in value

[Anonymous No.4266471]

>>4255070
>Do you find learning from video courses easier then books?

Technically it IS easier

[Anonymous No.4266485]

Imagine I just bought a series of online videos that just released and to my knowledge haven't been leaked.
What would be the best method to download and then share these lecture videos with /ic/. Hypothetically ofc.
There's also no inbuilt option on the site to direct download.

[Anonymous No.4266491]

>>4266485
1. Save as method
2. External browser app
3. Extract from the source code method
4. If it's some bullshit where the feed is coming from some cloud shit you're out of luck so option 5 would be
5. screen record--however

I have run into some online classes where even screen recording is impossible.

[Anonymous No.4266494]

>>4266491
Well not "impossible". If you want to take your camcorder and record your screen that works. But that's a ghetto option.

[Anonymous No.4266584]

>>4266491
I'll give a few of these a try tomorrow. Hopefully the easiest method (browser add-on) works.

[Anonymous No.4266694]

>>4266494
Also capture cards bypass most anti software DRM

[Anonymous No.4266701]

>>4266401
Thoose are the courses that already you bought or the courses you want to buy?

[Anonymous No.4266847]

>>4266401
Damn I just want the Will Weston courses whose dick do I gotta suck.

[Anonymous No.4267007]

Is there a mega link for Kim Jung Gi's perspective course? I know it's far from being worth the price but it really helps me watch someone work and I could use some perspective refresher.

[Anonymous No.4267314]

>>4267007
There is an old mega link to it if you look at the archives, but it's missing about 3 of the video lessons I think. Also note that the course is probably more like one of his lectures that they recorded and then split up into multiple short videos. I'm basing that assumption off of his most recent course he just put out.
So google a few different 4chan archives and you should be able to find one that has the old links. I found them about a week ago but didn't bother to check if they were still functional.
If the links are dead, mention it in the thread and I'll try upload the videos of it that I saved.

[Anonymous No.4267398]

>>4267314
No it's not. It's supposed to be like an actual course.

He spends most of his time drawing while not explaining shit and then eats throughout the video as well.

Not exactly someone you would want to learn from despite him being really good at drawing.

Which further proves my point about not having to be the best to teach people how to draw--in fact, it makes more sense to not try to be one of the greatest because it makes you more relatable to the student. I mean, how many people can relate to KJG and his drawing obsession? (Granted, I just pulled this out of my ass. But I am going from past experiences. The best teachers were always good at what they did but never the best. The worst teachers were always the ones that were ridiculously amazing at whatever it was they were teaching.)

[Anonymous No.4267457]

>>4267398
When I watch any video with KJG in it trying to explain shit, he just tells anyone listening what he knows without simplifying it or tailoring it in any way for someone trying to learn from him.
This makes it so that any student that wants to gain anything from his lectures or classes needs to put in a hell of a lot more effort into trying to comprehend and analyze whatever the hell he's talking about than they would if they were learning from a different teacher. This kind of effort is something that would be usually placed on the teachers shoulders.
I do think that his courses are actually good, but they need to be intensely watched multiple times to get any kind of use out of them, and even then he's more teaching his process and how he got to the skill level he is on than he is guiding students step by step through their artistic journey.

It's possible that a lot of people had their hopes up that he would share some kind of bizarre technique that would unlock the secrets of drawing, only to be disappointed to find out that it's just observing, visualizing, and drawing constantly, on top of grinding fundies.

[Anonymous No.4267477]

>>4267457
>You're too /beg to understand.

You're so full of shit kid. There's a difference between being difficult to understand and not explaining shit. KJG falls so far into the latter that it makes your defense of him show you how arrogant you are.

[Anonymous No.4267539]

>>4267477
You seem to have misinterpreted my post.
I'm saying that KJG isn't a good teacher, but if the student puts in effort they can get a lot out of his course. Saying this, it's still not going to teach you to draw, but it can help to guide your improvement.
Just listen to what he says and consider his points.
You could boil everything he said down to just think about shit before drawing it.

Now calm down, draw from life, and grind your fundies.

[Anonymous No.4269700]

Anyone bought the FORCE video courses and tell me if they're worth it?

There are four: Basics, shape, form, anatomy.

[Anonymous No.4270259]

what happen to the discord I was removed from it

[Anonymous No.4270359]

>>4270259
Did you got the courses though? You think you can share them please? I wanted to contribute but It seems they closed, please.

[Anonymous No.4270361]

>>4270259
Me too.

[Anonymous No.4270389]

>>4270361
Oh well. PandaChiken or w/e was a faggot anyway. I'll remake a discord if there is enough demand for it.

[Anonymous No.4270397]

>>4270359
>>4270361
>>4270259
someone reported someone, so I have heard, if you really want to contribute message the admin thats how I got in

[Anonymous No.4270404]

>>4270397

There really needs to be an official global "buffer" discord that acts as a way to get into any /ic/ discord as verification so gays who report or troll don't get into the servers.

[Anonymous No.4270418]

>>4259659
anyone have any other MDJ stuff. hes very easy to watch and learn from

[Anonymous No.4270421]

>>4270418
i only have anatomy bundle 1 and shapes/edges/value idk if you want these

[Anonymous No.4270425]

667788wm#0776 my discord

[Anonymous No.4270427]

>>4270421
sorry forgot, theres also an animal pack from MDJ on mega https://mega.nz/#!tVoxHSAC!y5vs1yWW_xDJ_vfB97BVB1SZ939dDO-ADGRNbDy-7Ho

[Anonymous No.4270653]

>>4270389
What was wrong with PandaShitty ?

[Anonymous No.4271456]

>>4270421
can you share the anatomy bundle and value stuff?

[Anonymous No.4271456,1]

Sooo now that the discord died, can somebody upload the will weston courses? I mean, they were already being exchanged.

[Anonymous No.4272148]

>>4228784
Repin is truly a master to study. Those heads are full of character.

What the fuck.

[Anonymous No.4272157]

Does anyone have Glenn Vilppu's videos from when he was younger?

[Anonymous No.4272262]

>>4270421
thanks bud

[Anonymous No.4272334]

>>4271456
Seconding this. Would really appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.4272340]

>>4271456
>>4272334
yep but its gonna take a while because its over 2gb and my connection is crap. just wait pls

[Anonymous No.4272370]

>>4272340
the edges/value video is here: https://mega.nz/#!1ZUEDIgJ!UwY5KIYMD2kUrH0B8vIGoutZNZzksQqdSdNYljfMtII
im gonna start uploading anatomy bundle now but im probably gonna post the link tomorrow

also everyone in this thread: set a reminder on 15th of january and make an acc on cgpeers. 50% of what you guys ask for here is there. just remember to seed and upload if you ever buy something.

[Anonymous No.4272434]

>>4272370
Forget what I said, turns out Im just retarded (not surprised) and my internet is fine. Here you go, MDJ's anatomy bundle: https://mega.nz/#!JdMgHCzB!7gU1EcR7dmuoBfwYcOtz2PnPIueuIucR4NV_DZKrw6s

James irks me. I want to like James, but I can't. Is it his beautiful face? Is it the fact that he never posts any finished art? That his feed is just endless stream of sketches and lineart? That he sells a fucking concept art course even though I never heard about him working for any gamedev company? Mayb.

But the anatomy bundle is alrighty.

[Anonymous No.4272467]

>>4272434
It bothers me that he went all Anthony Jones on his Indiegogo and realized he could make more money off of mentorships and group lessons. He also sells painting tutorials even though he's an amateur at it.

[Anonymous No.4272475]

>>4255270
does she fug his budd?

[Anonymous No.4272515]

>>4272434
He just comes across as a student that wasn't good enough to get any work so started doing his college lessons on youtube for quarters.
Contrast that with Jeff Watts who did art as a hobby with his father, only went into art because of a leg injury preparing while cycling professionally and was so good that calarts asked him to teach while he was still in college. Then he set up his own school at 23. While also working in the movie industry freelance.
Or if you want a closer comparison, Peter Han who worked in concept design straight out of college and only started teaching because his mentor died and didn't want Dynamic Sketching to die with him.
What I'm saying is, be careful who you spend your previous time learning from. It might be more lost time unlearning their mistakes later.

[Anonymous No.4272534]

>>4272370
>>4272434
sorry, can I ask if these are mostly just his youtube videos, or is there new stuff in here?

[Anonymous No.4272537]

Would anyone be kind enough to post some of the landscape painting videos of fenske from nma?
Thanks lads, appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.4272655]

>>4255270
source please.

[Anonymous No.4272658]

>>4272434
Am I too dumb? I don't know how to study his material. Should I just copy what he's doing? Everything from him feels like a demo instead of a tutorial, he's not breaking things up to make them more digestible, he's just drawing and talking on top of it.

[Anonymous No.4272661]

>>4272515
This is one deepest lore post I've ever read on /ic/.

[Anonymous No.4272678]

>>4272534
His youtube videos are shortened version of these so yes, there is new material

>>4272658
The way I look at his material is: He EXPLAINS how stuff works. So for example when he explains how gravity affects material thus creating folds, you get to actually understand the PROCESS behind it, so its easier for you to draw, because you wont have to "guess" anything, you will follow a logical train of thought. That's how I approach all of his videos - I dont try to copy anything he draws, I just listen, take notes and try to draw something using the knowledge.
That being said, I dont really use his stuff too much. The clothing folds videos I enjoyed and got a good use of, the rest I dont care about.

>>4272515
Yeah, this pretty much sums it up. He's forever a student/teacher, never doing any actual commissions. Or maybe he is, but why isnt he showing these then? I always tell people to look up their teacher's portfolio first. If you dont see anything that wasnt created solely as a lesson material, think hard about why they're teaching anything in the first place. He's a pretty classic case of a guy that understands something, runs to make a video about it to "educate" everyone and never puts this knowledge to use anywhere else. His painting videos are a good example, guy clearly cannot paint to save his life.
Not hatin tho, i like his drawings. I just wish he made some actual personal illustrations. And he could be a liiiiiittle bit less cocky.

[Anonymous No.4272688]

>>4272658
His videos are honestly not that good.

[Anonymous No.4272690]

>>4272688
Mind explaining a bit more?

[Anonymous No.4272691]

>>4272690
ah, just watch them. He says a few things, then silence for 40 minutes.

[Anonymous No.4272791]

>>4272370
>>4272434
Thank you generous anon

[Anonymous No.4273271]

>>4254462
>he doesn't save his archives

[Anonymous No.4274137]

Does anyone have any Photoshop learning material?

[Anonymous No.4274141]

>>4273271
Saving twitch vods consumes a fuckton of GB. Your ISP is gonna throttle you.

[Anonymous No.4274143]

>>4273271
he saved the episodes starting from ep2 and said he will upload them somewhere at some point, but unless someone else recorded ep1 before it disappeared it might be lost

[Anonymous No.4274145]

>>4274141
Like for example (I just checked) 1 video from an artist I like is 10GB. Try downloading 10 of that and you're looking at over 100GB.

[Anonymous No.4274426]

>>4274141
>ISP throttles
Do Americans really?

[Anonymous No.4274438]

>>4274143
Somebody needs to tell peterhan how easy it is to upload twitch broadcasts straight to his youtube

[Anonymous No.4274521]

is this course good?

[Anonymous No.4274527]

>>4274521
>one course is literally free on the site right now
No.

[Anonymous No.4274553]

>>4229766
>Level 100 overlay
You gotta go back

[Anonymous No.4275616]

I'm trying to access the discord but the invite is expired. Is there a new link?

[Anonymous No.4275830]

>>4275616
no, you will have to contact the admin through this guy 667788wm#0776 now

[Anonymous No.4276054]

>>4274141
I'm pointing out that Peter doesn't have it so twitch doesn't auto delete your broadcast vods after like two weeks.

[Anonymous No.4276513]

>>4272370
>>4272434

Is the audio stuttering for anyone else? I tried all of them and all have some kind of stuttering, especially the head and neck ones. I am using MPC-HC.

[Anonymous No.4276862]

fucking MEGA download limits

[Anonymous No.4277062]

Is it just me or is the CGMA color and light course all screwy?

[Anonymous No.4277173]

are the CTRL paint premium videos actually good? ive watched the first couple videos and it seem to be plain and dull

[Anonymous No.4277185]

>>4277062
not sure what you mean but i think 1. the sound quality is shit 2. the „course” is useless and really low quality, im shocked anybody who accepted that was like „yeah thats good”

[Anonymous No.4277185,1]

https://htartist.artstation.com/store/y7M8/fundamentals-course-a-guide-for-starters-in-art

anyone have this?

[Anonymous No.4278201]

>read loomis book
>draw for ages starting off my heads with a circle
>download course for drawing the head
>steve huston's course says I should draw my heads with a triangle shape instead
What do I do? Use the method I've used for ages or use his method? What If I try his method, then forget everything I ever learned about the first method?

[Anonymous No.4278205]

>>4278201
Sailboat is a meme. Just use the tried and tested method loomis created.

[Anonymous No.4278217]

>>4278205
Loomis for three-quarter.
Sailboat for Profile.
Front views are a joke.

[Anonymous No.4278261]

I have all these sources but they'll never help me improve bros

[Anonymous No.4278311]

>>4278201
>What If I try his method, then forget everything I ever learned about the first method?
If you forget it that easily you don't really know it. These are approaches to solving a problem there is no right or wrong here.

[Anonymous No.4278312]

>>4278261
Tbh they’re overrated. They can steer you in the right direction but they’re also a massive time sink. Like NMA’s 40+ hour courses. Better to read books, look at quick demos and practice on your own.

[Anonymous No.4278313]

Nobody at all have the ben Fenske landpainting videos from nma? Just want to see one or two before I purchase. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.4278341]

>>4278312
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.4278342]

>>4278341
He's right. I learned more from free/cheap resources than paid/ripped content.

[Anonymous No.4278346]

>>4278312
Retarded, don't follow this shit advice.

[Anonymous No.4278356]

>>4278346
This.

[Anonymous No.4278362]

>>4278312
how did you type "to be honest" without it turning into desu?

[Anonymous No.4278368]

>>4278346
>>4278356
t. tutorial hoarders

[Anonymous No.4278527]

>>4278362
Capital T = Tbh. Lowercase t = desu

[Anonymous No.4278531]

>>4278312
Bitch art education in a college is 4 years worth of a time sink. As long as you are actually practicing and not just binging videos like a netflix show it is time well spent.

[Anonymous No.4278543]

>>4278201
Anon, now you are ready for Bridgman.

[Anonymous No.4278548]

>>4278531
I will gladly take a 40 hours course from Vilppu or Huston which I can rewatch multiple times. That anon doesn't know what he's talking about.

[Anonymous No.4278596]

oof

[Anonymous No.4278596,1]

>>4271456,1
I also reaaaaaally want the Will Weston courses. And everyone is ignoring. I don't care if people say that he doesn't give everything from his presencial courses. The way he explain is really good. His IG stuff already helps, but is far too short.

Please, I'm begging. Someone please post Will Weston stuff.

[Anonymous No.4278899]

>>4278217
Sailboat works for 3/4 too actually, you just push the ear/jaw point further back and square off the bottom for the front plane.

[Anonymous No.4278936]

>>4278201
The more you draw heads (realism) it becomes obvious that the top of the head is a bit flat, not rounded. Both methods are good. Triangle head is a step up from circle/egg head.

[Anonymous No.4278942]

>>4278201
you're makign a fundamental mistake here. none of these methods are meant to be memorized. these circles and triangles are how these autors simplify the 3d form of a head. you can use their simplification if you feel like it works for you, but if it doesnt, use another or come up with your own. never ever try to memorize any methods, this is not how it works.

[Anonymous No.4279124]

>>4278531
A video is not the same as actually being in a class, being able to ask questions and getting feedback from the instructor. Also not all videos are the same. Vilppu’s videos are long but very helpful. The Eric Olson perspective videos are on the opposite side of the spectrum. Super long and not very helpful or practical past the first couple lessons.

[Anonymous No.4279402]

Does anyone has Proko's leg tutorial? please anon

[Anonymous No.4279408]

>>4279402
its over 3gb but if you give me some time i can upload it. have some mdj's rambling while you're waititng https://imgur.com/a/wHCctxd

[Anonymous No.4279411]

>>4279408
I can wait, I'm very grateful for your contribution anon. Meanwhile I'll prepare to upload some stuffs from nma.

[Anonymous No.4279454]

>>4279124
t. brainlet

[Anonymous No.4279455]

>>4278548
I like vilppu but he has a lot of educational shit out there from is career is it all worth it or does it regurgitate the same info? From what I can tell it seems like it does.

[Anonymous No.4279475]

>>4279454
I mean pyw and we can settle this. I know you suck ass. It doesn’t matter how many videos you watch.

[Anonymous No.4279515]

>>4279454
How can you even type this? A video can't talk back to you.

[Anonymous No.4279532]

>>4279411
its here https://mega.nz/#!IEdD0SIS!JCFmPw4Kml_V1N6Hf3y0ONTxmblHcgRPo6SY7TD-dGY pls comment when you download so i can delete it (sorry i cant keep all files)

the whole anatomy course is available on cgpeers so everyone remember to set a reminder on 15th

[Anonymous No.4279566]

is it my computer or the videos on the russian anatomy are corrupted? when i play it on vlc it's just a gray screen and when played in windows media player the audio and the image are out of sync

[Anonymous No.4279569]

>>4279566
I can play them perfectly. Try downloading them in the standard way and not by zip. Download each vid individually.

[Anonymous No.4279570]

Does anyone have the Myron Barnstone videos?

[Anonymous No.4279580]

>>4279532
got it.

also i think they're full. the last few 1st and 15ths it's said they reached their quota and haven't had open invites. i've wanted to get a friend in but can't.

[Anonymous No.4279585]

>>4279569
i did this way, i guess it must be my computer so

[Anonymous No.4279854]

>>4279532
thanks alot anon!

[Anonymous No.4279875]

>>4272370
damn lmao this is god awful. can't draw and can't paint, it's a shitty version of the ctrl paint course. the ctrl paint free and paid course on this topic are so much better.

[Anonymous No.4280043]

Any Gouache videos besides Gurney and Watts?
Demos, instruction. I can't find much.

[Anonymous No.4280081]

https://mega.nz/#F!6hMBxQDQ!z3lhLfkZPzLgE7SHJ_cwLQ

I was looking for this earlier and I couldn't find it, had to go on fireden.

This is the Craig Mullins course, if anyone wants it

[Anonymous No.4280111]

>>4228784
>Vilppu stuff - https://mega.nz/#F!RIx3TJxJ!_Nna8t01kPxENJ8KSzXqwg!EUJHgKAZ

I'd appreciate it if someone can update this library with that from NMA.

It starts with this:
https://www.nma.art/videolessons/figure-drawing-with-glenn-vilppu-part-1-gesture/

[Anonymous No.4280129]

please, can someone give me a link to the discord? the posted invite doesn't work anymore

[Anonymous No.4280228]

>>4280043
Nathan Fowkes landscapes in watercolor and gouache on schoolism and his book.
Also on watts you should look at robert watts atmosphere and mood in gouache if you only looked at the main gouache course with jeff.

[Anonymous No.4280251]

>>4278201
circle heads fucked me up for life

[Anonymous No.4280254]

>>4279875
>the ctrl paint free and paid course on this topic are so much better.
can you post that?

[Anonymous No.4280355]

>>4279124
>>4279124
I'm watching Eric's perspective vids right now. It helps if you have some background art knowledge on perspective but still not understanding perspective in depth.

[Anonymous No.4280375]

>>4280254
im not op but the whole ctrl+paint rendering course is here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TOLh8o5PtZYr4KYq3yIkUXXnaiU3n6fi-FZMJ4-gqCc/edit the free stuff you can just find on google

if anyone needs any other stuff from ctrlpaint lmk which one maybe i have it

picrel is my new baby rat, the other one died 2 days ago and im very sad

[Anonymous No.4280377]

>>4280375
theres also ctrl+paint color course in one of these links
https://pastebin.com/dRTfxPYb
https://pastebin.com/YGUwF1qY

[Anonymous No.4280402]

Friendly reminder to download Peter Hans twitch vods before they hit 14 days.
Current oldest vod is 13 days: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/522570725

[Anonymous No.4280405]

>>4280402
did anyone make a copy of the previous ones?? i can download and upload these but its only ep 6 and 7...

[Anonymous No.4280416]

>>4280405
Im sure someone did because thats how I found out about them, someone else reminding people to download the vods. Unfortunately my attempts to download ep 5 were corrupted.

[Anonymous No.4280448]

>>4228784
>CGMA Art of color and light - https://mega.nz/#F!CHBUEahQ!YmW9EueacdNsKW3mZYGRRA
>Digital Painting Marco Bucci - https://mega.nz/#F!KKA0UQiA!IQZo0gy_yH5OAwKsPEIdqg
Holy fuck thank you anon

[Anonymous No.4280650]

>>4280375
the fuck is this google drive shit? never used this before. also sorry for your rat, that's fucking sad, dude.

[Anonymous No.4280707]

>>4280650
>>4280650
what do you mean? you mean the course is shit or theres something wrong with the link

the link has the following text inside: https://pastebin.com/tFPB4qZg

[Anonymous No.4280732]

>>4280707
no, im just used to mega/torrents. this google is all weird. im just retarded is all. ill check your likn, thanks bud.

[Anonymous No.4280777]

please >.< someone post proko's leg mega link

[Anonymous No.4280784]

what about Peter Hans ep 1 and ep 2 on twitch it starts from ep 3

[Anonymous No.4280959]

Does anyone have files/links related to visual development (environment, composition, etc.)? Would really appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.4280967]

>>4280784
Peter said himself that he lost the episodes because he didnt realise they would be deleted after 14 days. He has all of the other ones on backup and will be uploading them eventually somewhere. Maybe paywalled though so download anything you want from twitch from now on.
He should be back streaming this week, tuesdays and thursdays I think.

[Anonymous No.4281063]

>>4272434
>https://mega.nz/#!JdMgHCzB!7gU1EcR7dmuoBfwYcOtz2PnPIueuIucR4NV_DZKrw6s
It's been Taken down, friend. Anyone else managed to snag it?

[Anonymous No.4281087]

Steve Huston <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

I used to think he was really boring but now I see how valuable everything he says is i love him very much

[Anonymous No.4281549]

proko's leg pls

[Anonymous No.4281568]

>>4281549
here u go i reuploaded it https://mega.nz/#!JAdlkYjC!JCFmPw4Kml_V1N6Hf3y0ONTxmblHcgRPo6SY7TD-dGY

im significantly retarded so pls help me: how can i get more storage without paying for the premium acc on mega? can i make unlimited accounts or is it IP limited or sth? i dont want to delete anything i share here but i just dont have enough storage lol

[Anonymous No.4281569]

any recommendations to get better with values? and can someone give me the link to the discord plz?

[Anonymous No.4281575]

>>4281569
i dont have the discord But I think the chapter about values in steve huston's book is really really good https://mega.nz/#!9VEhAQYJ!H18rP-Oual5f4knx5xU3_sehpbT_nXcgVelLWHBr9h8 it's chapter 5

[Anonymous No.4281587]

>>4281087
Anime source?

[Anonymous No.4281595]

Stupid question, but how do you go about studying these? whenever I try to study video material I always have no idea about what to besides drawing along/taking notes but even then I still feel like that isn't enough.

[Anonymous No.4281616]

>>4281595
that's what I do. just draw the shit out of what youre struggling with until its better, make sure you "get" it before moving on, and when they cover areas youre decent at, just give it a pass or two.

[Anonymous No.4281812]

Anyone got Brent Eviston's The Art & Science of Drawing?

[Anonymous No.4281857]

>>4281812
its 16 gb sooo if you give me 183383451 hours i can help

picrel is a doodle of my rat :^)

[Anonymous No.4281867]

>>4281857
If you give me a magnet link I can wait and then seed it for others

[Anonymous No.4281966]

>>4281063
mdj's anatomy bundle is back, i made a new mega acc https://mega.nz/#!T2hUBKqY!WjYSiMWQaS8lgychv5D3Mp6c48LyTechwRzsNr_3ErU

>>4281867
i tried but im really stupid and couldnt create a torrent. i got a lack of ram error and even though i closed everything it kept crashing. im uploading it to mega right now and im at 3% so you can get the link probably tomorrow is that ok?

[Anonymous No.4281972]

>>4281966
>is that ok?
It's totally fine, thank you for taking the time to do this

[Anonymous No.4282003]

>>4281569
are you taking about the discord link where they pool for courses? they took down the link contact me 667788wm#0776

[Anonymous No.4282041]

anyone have an updated discord invite link?

[Anonymous No.4282123]

>>4282041
I think you need to contact admin

[Anonymous No.4282456]

>>4281972
phew! it's up. https://mega.nz/#F!23JV1QKD!4j_RcWJUtVlLmg4bnPuReg sorry you had to wait

[Anonymous No.4282548]

>>4282456
I thought it would take longer, thank you so much anon!

[Anonymous No.4282550]

>>4281587
i literally drawed and animated myself just so i could post my appreciation for steve

[Anonymous No.4282681]

Does anyone have Kurt Michael Russell's coloring classes?

[Anonymous No.4282802]

GRUG WANT VILPU

[Anonymous No.4283056]

any update on will weston / have access to discord?

[GestureGuy No.4283112]

Anyone got moderndayjames livestreams from his patreon ?

[Anonymous No.4283148]

How do I rip a BiliBili playlist?
I found some pretty great collections, wanna DL them before they get taken down

[Anonymous No.4283227]

EatPandaChicken#8967 just contact the admin chums on discord >>4283056

[Anonymous No.4283318]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAboZuZTLUg

Found this great course that anyone can view for free! This course by famed artist Glen Vilpu is about drawing animals, and you can buy the rest of the course afterwards at https://www.nma.art/ !

[Anonymous No.4283545]

>Watts head and figure by Brian Knox new on cgpeers
IM COOMING

[Anonymous No.4283562]

>>4283545
everything i've seen of knox on youtube absolutely sucks. he doesn't seem like a good draftsman at all.

[Anonymous No.4283628]

>>4282681
no but i have his intro to digital painting on ipad if youre interested

>>4283318
wtf

>>4283562
hmm i mean he's boring, another copy of proko/watts atelier construction method, but i wouldnt say hes not good at all? idk.
okay well i've just watched this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub6NVrlCWKY and the way he draws that leg at the very end of the video is just wtf.
im not a fan of this whole watts atelier anyway, i think this workflow is useful only for life studies. i cant imagine anyone doing all of this for a concept art sketch or whatever

[Anonymous No.4283636]

>>4283056
Nothing, i'm starting to believe the whole discord thing was just a bunch of bullshit.

[Anonymous No.4283645]

>>4283562
>>4283628

also, theres something off about his proportions, either the head is too big or the torso is short

[Anonymous No.4283874]

>>4283645
I find his faces are all formulaic and samey. Obviously you start off with an abstration like reilly or loomis but you should still take into consideration the actual models differences from your default memorized proportions and abstractions.
These female portraits could be the same model with wigs on. I think he even fucked up the nose on the far right one.

Really like Jeff Watts and Robert Watts but not impressed with his other teachers in comparison.

[Anonymous No.4283929]

>>4283628
Ahhh, yes, I would be interested in that class, thanks!

[Anonymous No.4283937]

>>4283874
Seems like a common theme among instructors who place a lot of emphasis on construction. They are great at drawing averaged figures but they often can't into likeness, aka drawing the actual subject. They all draw their models like objects.

[Anonymous No.4283938]

>>4283929
ok its 3.8 gb, uploading it

>>4283645
>>4283874
you convinced me fully now, he is indeed pretty awful. his drawings are like ugly clay figurines wrapped in a nice gift paper.

[Anonymous No.4284018]

>>4283874
Are you blind? How can't you see they are not similar, geez this is what happens when people with zero observational skills have the freedom to talk shit anonymously.

[Anonymous No.4284190]

>>4283938
Take as much time as you need, it's New Years and its already way generous for you to give stuff away like this. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.4284305]

>>4283874
Gist is "good" but not an artist I want to draw or paint like. None of them draw as well or as juicy as Jeff does but Gist is at least serviceable as an instructor.

>>4283628
>im not a fan of this whole watts atelier anyway, i think this workflow is useful only for life studies
What workflow do you even mean? They teach tons of topics, it's not all life drawing but that's what people typically want to get instruction for.

[Anonymous No.4284475]

>>4284018
geez my new years eve wish is for you to fucking PERISH

>>4284305
sorry i generalized too much, i mean the whole style of construction that proko and others similar to him use, they dont rely on intuition enough and really "sculpt" every single body part out. its not time efficient, it doesnt allow to put your ideas on paper fast enough. i dont think its a bad thing in general obviously, fuck i mean its good for beginners, but when you're a bit more advanced i cant imagine anyone going through that whole construction routine. hope i made myself clear now. not hating on watts im just complaining like im always do

>>4284190
no problemo. the ipad course is here https://mega.nz/#F!yiQjCArY!bDWD-YlE2fqW8zlt7f6PGA (btw I think it looks kinda weird but i hope you enjoy it anyway)

[Anonymous No.4284481]

Guys I need Will Weston course please, I can't buy it even if I wanted since I live in a country where the exchange rate makes it impossible

[Anonymous No.4284489]

>>4284481
If it's Brazil, fuck you, I bought it. Invest in your education.

[Anonymous No.4284490]

>>4284489
Argaytina

[Anonymous No.4284523]

Lads, does someone here know where I can get the Carl Dobsky tutorial for 2 point perspective?
I just found the one for 1 point, extremely useful, but can't find the others, please, it doesnt matter of they cost money.

[Anonymous No.4284562]

>>4284475
Thank you! I need all the art help I can get! Hope you have a happy new year!

[Anonymous No.4284587]

>>4244609
Damn, that looks really nice

[Anonymous No.4284747]

>>4284489

Don't say like that because I will fucking paint you!

[Anonymous No.4284904]

does anyone have these two episodes that aren't in the mega?

[Anonymous No.4284908]

>>4284904
yea give me a moment. theyre just assignments btw

[Anonymous No.4284919]

>>4284904
>>4284908
here u go https://mega.nz/#F!aroD1SIZ!h_OB66kuq_AwVyrEC7I8pw

[Anonymous No.4284921]

>>4284919
thanks anon love u

[Anonymous No.4285334]

does anyone know if cgpeers will open for new users this month?

[Anonymous No.4285670]

>>4285334
Apparently signups are open on 1st and 15th every month.

[Anonymous No.4285790]

>>4285334
Invite only, though users are saying it doesn't work either, shit outta luck

>>4285670
It doesn't do that anymore.

[Anonymous No.4286045]

Anyone dynamic sketching please. I don't have a cgpeers account

[Anonymous No.4286070]

>>4286045
I found Dynamic Sketching 1.
https://mega.nz/#F!whAg2QYD!S6X1smoI1lMNulQmvrMRbQ

[Anonymous No.4286134]

>>4283874
>not impressed with his other teachers in comparison.
Lucas is pretty based.

[Anonymous No.4286153]

>>4286134
Its funny how autistically obsessed he is with dragons. Good artist though.

[Anonymous No.4286167]

>>4286153
I would pick someone who holds true passion like him over someone who's being washy washy about what they want and like.

[Anonymous No.4286227]

bump limit reached we're falling fast thank you for everything anons this thread has been more helpful for my development than any other thread i've ever seen goodbye everyone

[Anonymous No.4286421]

>>4284908
I just noticed all the assignments are missing from his lessons, howcome that is?

[Anonymous No.4286635]

>>4286421
Because they're all in a different folder with pics instead of vids in it

[Anonymous No.4286834]

>>4283227
how do i contact him on discord? im new to this

[Anonymous No.4286846]

>>4286635
ohhh i see thank u anon i love u

[Anonymous No.4286878]

>>4286834
by screaming his name as loud as you can, he will add you to the discord, tried it, worked like a charm or you can type the discord handle on add friends and he will add you but its an unconventional method, no one has ever tried this before

[Anonymous No.4286878,1]

Interesting how not many people know Ron Lemen.

[Mo No.4286878,2]

is there anyone to help me to register in cg peers?
i need an invitation.
thanks.

[Anonymous No.4286878,3]

>>4286878,2
>Remember that you are responsible for ALL invitees, and your account and/or privileges may be lost due to their actions. You should know the person you're inviting. If you aren't familiar enough with the user to trust them, we suggest not inviting them.

ehh