/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4225810]

IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

previous >>4220925

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance.

Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

[Anonymous No.4225828]

how do you guys draw loomis stuff while still making it clean? the final drawing is too messy for my taste
should i draw more lightly while drawing the cranium mass and that early stuff and then draw hard for the details?

[Anonymous No.4225837]

>>4225828
what media are you using? trad or digital also post your work you dumbass

[Anonymous No.4225842]

I feel incredibly autistic doing this, does this actually help

[Anonymous No.4225848]

>>4225842
holy fuck WHAT A BRAINLET

[Anonymous No.4225853]

Fucking boxes how do they work

[Anonymous No.4225854]

>>4225842
Looks like my shower head

[Anonymous No.4225858]

Could someone point out any mistakes with the proportions/anatomy before starting the lineart. I got stuck pretty hard trying to make it look like she's resting on her arm.

[Anonymous No.4225864]

Hey, posted mistakenly on the past BEG, here's my first real digital drawing, got a wacom thing recently. Tell me how retarded I am.

[Anonymous No.4225869]

how are the proportions?

[Anonymous No.4225871]

>>4225837
if it was digital i would use layers duh
gonna post tomorrow

[Anonymous No.4225873]

>>4225842
where did you find that? that seems more like an exercise for line confidence

[Anonymous No.4225874]

>>4225864
I'm more retarded than you, so I can't say.

[Anonymous No.4225876]

>>4225864
how long you have beend drawing before this

[Anonymous No.4225880]

>>4225871
oh no the princess is too afraid of posting his work?

[Anonymous No.4225884]

>>4225873
i think that's what it's called, I'm trying to get better at drawing lines/ellipses, and it feels like the general way to get better with those is just draw moar
it still feels incredibly autistic though so i was wondering if there was a better way to go about it

[Anonymous No.4225885]

Anyone got a good small keyboard to use with a surface book tablet? For drawing hotkeys and such.

[Anonymous No.4225889]

>>4225876
I believe 3 years, probably about to reach 4. Still, I'm pretty slow at learning.

[Anonymous No.4225897]

>>4225889
did you used a ref? the drawing itself has a lot of small mistakes but the core itself is not that bad

[Anonymous No.4225903]

>>4225880
now critique fag

[Anonymous No.4225905]

>>4225897
Yeah, I used a lotta varied refs.

[Anonymous No.4225918]

Some stuff I'm working on from imagination.

[Anonymous No.4225922]

>>4225903
the same way drawing a fucking square doesn't require you to mewsure the angle of each corner you already know that each side has to be same, so when you are drawing the meme ball is the same now if you are referring to the final product the head, remember the memeball it's mean to be used as a learning tool it's not mean to be used each time you want to draw a head the point is having all these landmarks so is easier to construct from there once you are good at that you start using less maybe just a circle or a cross or nothing

in your pic i don't even know what the fuck are you trying to do there, are these skull studies or the memeball, because those balls are half assed and so the skulls did you even used a ref for the skulls?

the reason for the messy lines is usually because you are trying to find the forms as you draw instead of drawing the forms, that's because you don't know enough about the subject you are drawing and you are just guessing and chicken scratching you woulnt do that when you draw a square because you know how to do it.

[Anonymous No.4225923]

>>4225918
use a ref

[Anonymous No.4225930]

>>4225922
in these i was recalling from memory and i'm still gonna stick with the ball at least for now because i don't know much about proportions

[Anonymous No.4225931]

>>4225858
her neck is almost in it's left shoulder, her knees bave no form and they look bloated same for the ankles and her toes look like saussges no form at all, it's his/her fuck right arm is coming from his upper chest instead of it's shoulder oh and hand resting on her doesn't match the perspective of her forearm

plus for painted clothes

[Anonymous No.4225937]

>>4225930
why the fuck are you drawing from imagination when you obviously don't even the know the most basic details of the skull use refs until you memorize every mayor part and then you can break it down on more detailed shit if you want it, but to be honest the only thing needed to know for drawing heads is the eyesockets, cheekbones,jawline and nose bridge unless you want to draw skellys

[Anonymous No.4225938]

It's fucking insane how little actual thinking you can do and make a shitton of progress.

[Anonymous No.4225943]

>>4225937
but thats what i'm trying to do
i draw first from reference then later that day i try to recall from memory
i am very scared of being enslaved by reference and i try to mitigate that by doing the recall thing

[Anonymous No.4225945]

>>4225938
god i wish that was me

[Anonymous No.4225946]

>>4225943
stpid fucking nigger first learn the difference between copying and studying

[Anonymous No.4225947]

>>4225943
this nigga trying to run before he can walk

[Anonymous No.4225948]

How to get clean lineart when using screen tablet? I switched from my wacom tablet on my laptop to the surface pro and my lineart looks absolute dogshit. I was able to get clean lineart on my Wacom tablet because of the pressure sensitivity/stroke control feature on Sai, so I wasn't sure if it was because I relied too much on these features or if it's because I'm shit in general.

[Anonymous No.4225950]

>>4225943

[Anonymous No.4225952]

>>4225946
may i ask what's the difference?

[Anonymous No.4225958]

>>4225952

[Anonymous No.4225964]

For a friend. I want to correct one of the legs but still thinking how it should look

[Anonymous No.4225965]

>>4225958

[Anonymous No.4225980]

posted in the old thread accidentally
anyone know what I need to do to fix her arms? I don't think her right arm looks bent enough, it just ends up looking short

[Anonymous No.4226015]

I'm really fucking confused on how you're supposed to apply perspective stuff from "Perspective Made Easy" or the boxes from DrawaBox to figure drawing. I can draw a box and have all the parallel lines meet up to the vanishing points and so on but how the fuck do you apply this to figure drawing? Are you really supposed to identify the horizon line in every single drawing you do? I just don't get it.
This is from a month ago, so, it might not be the best example, but I am so lost.

[Anonymous No.4226060]

>>4225842
My art teacher back in HS said I will need one day to practice circles like a retard, told him to eat a dick, gotten better than him before I finished HS and still never did no circle practice.
That's the least of your worries honestly, don't worry about making circles.

That's the kind of exercise you should be doing>>4225853
Nice work btw, the boxes are far from perfect but it thumbnails nicely and shows some space, keep at it.

[Anonymous No.4226157]

>>4225980
Looks fine to me

[Anonymous No.4226169]

the struggle to git gud goes on
and on
and on
how's your fight going, anons?

[Anonymous No.4226173]

Everything feels bad

[Anonymous No.4226194]

>>4226173
What are you learning from?

[Anonymous No.4226201]

>>4226194
last thing i looked at was hampton's anatomy, specifically legs. Was just trying to draw from some photos

[Anonymous No.4226259]

i did a tortoise but my own version. i feel like it symbolize how quickly i progress while deflecting all criticism with a tough shell. why cant i ever take painting further than his level of detail? how does this tortoise look?

[Anonymous No.4226265]

I want to learn how to paint digitally, am I still right here?

[Anonymous No.4226266]

Help, when using a reference I struggle between robot beaning, to regular beaning, to starting from the head down, to using a rough gesture and it's all frustrating.

[Anonymous No.4226269]

>>4226266
https://i.imgur.com/DUfvQ0t.jpg

[Anonymous No.4226271]

When will I learn to not use such muddy values when I start? This was magnitudes worse two hours ago but I had to spend those two hours fixing my fuckups.

[Anonymous No.4226273]

I tried going without a reference to see how I could do. I made some obvious mistakes on the hand and shoulder area.. Other than that, does it look ok? Why does she look so dead?

[Anonymous No.4226282]

>>4226273
She looks dead because the only place you put any red is in her cheeks. You'll see that skin turns flush around a lot of different areas, like the shoulders, knees, inside of the hands, anywhere that's warmer, etc etc.

Beyond that though it's not that bad. Your proportions aren't terrible, her design is a bit boring but idk who she even is. I don't really like how you did the braid in her hair though. That's the kind of thing you're gonna want to track down a ref for, because it's a fairly complex pattern to just up and do like that.

[Anonymous No.4226286]

>>4226282
Ah that makes sense! Thank you. And yeah, I definitely had trouble with the braid. I'll have to work on that.

[Anonymous No.4226292]

>>4226286
Looks good Anon, better than I could do.

[Anonymous No.4226294]

>>4226259
It does not look bad so far. I think the difference between the dark shadow of thee turle itself and the light blue background is too steep.This hides the details. That's not saying this wouldn't exactly happen in real life but the turtle is the focus of the painting so it should be well visible contrasted to the bg and this kinda backwards.

Adding new stronger more visible light source that illuminates the turtle will help reveal its details more. I tried to add some shitty scribbled jungle and more light using overlay layers. It's not that good makes it look like it has neon glow but it shows what I mean.

If you wish to take the painting further and to the max the only thing you really need to do is work out the small details more. I know this is not easy that is where a hell lot of work goes into detailed paintings.

[Anonymous No.4226324]

I have the general theme for my webcomic down, now I just need the story, characters, setting, drawing tablet, and website to host it. So I'm getting there

[Anonymous No.4226352]

>>4225931
thx anon, will try to fix everything.

[Anonymous No.4226361]

>>4226265
Anyone?

[Anonymous No.4226367]

>>4226361
yes

[Anonymous No.4226369]

>>4226324
You also need to learn how to draw first.

[Anonymous No.4226382]

[Anonymous No.4226427]

>>4226324
There is too much empty space on the panels Anon, unless you are doing some kind of metaphor about the emptiness of the person's life (and even in that case I would make it black instead of white) then either add some background or make the panel smaller. Having large empty spaces is a big turn off. Because it also conveys nothing on a story manner, while comics are about conveying a story at the core.

[Anonymous No.4226433]

>>4226382
best running gag on /ic/

[Anonymous No.4226440]

want to get back into art again for fun. What are some good small sketchbooks to carry around to draw in

[Anonymous No.4226480]

>>4226015
>figure drawing
you mean construction gesture

[Anonymous No.4226537]

I don't have a ref to draw a character being being picked up by a tall character so I tried from imagination, but it feels very wrong.

[Anonymous No.4226544]

>>4226537

[Anonymous No.4226557]

More pose practice. Need to work on heads and how to attach them.

[Anonymous No.4226561]

>>4226557

[Anonymous No.4226590]

>>4225842
First of all, this exercise is dumb but if you really want to do it you should at least do it right: Instead of drawing random circles inside those boxes you should try to draw the circles so they perfectly touch the lines. This way you have an actual goal when drawing and can judge whether or not you made a good circle, right now you're just drawing them aimlessly. It also helps to draw through the circles a few times. And please use a ruler to make the lines. Pic related, I also tried doing this shit at first.

[Anonymous No.4226639]

>>4226382
Anon, I know you have been working hard at your drawings and I would like to help if I can. Your work is not bad the basic proportions are there even if sometimes they are off a bit. Don't know if it has been told you or not but I would like to advise you practice anatomy and a bit more construction. You are really close to getting things right but for some reason the lineart ends up feeling flat, do you do this because you color them later?

I tried to help with these similar drawings.

[Anonymous No.4226641]

>>4225842
The drawabox circle exercise is much more useful than just drawing random circles.

[Anonymous No.4226652]

>>4226639
>for some reason the lineart ends up feeling flat
Because it's literally a 2D outline with nothing inside. I mean, it's not like it's a mystery or anything. Anon is probably aware of this too. If he wants to draw more volumetrically then he will, if he doesn't want to then I guess he won't.
I don't really get why him or anyone else though just posts drawings with no questions/comments though. What are people looking for, a pat on the back?

[Anonymous No.4226681]

Experimenting with perspective a bit

[Anonymous No.4226689]

>>4226681
what is the desired result of your experiment Anon?

[Anonymous No.4226697]

>>4226681
did you attempt to use 1 point persective and still end up with something looking like a flat wall because this is the result of your experiment

[Anonymous No.4226713]

>>4225810
Is this really bad? I decided to just wing it with the anatomy

[Anonymous No.4226716]

>>4226713
This is big as shit, sorry guys, resized!

[Anonymous No.4226864]

[Anonymous No.4226939]

[Anonymous No.4226954]

>>4225810
Any critiques on this?

[Anonymous No.4226955]

pls rate

[Anonymous No.4226956]

>>4226939
Gay

[Anonymous No.4226959]

>>4226955
i can see you like the edo period

[Anonymous No.4226964]

>>4225810

[Anonymous No.4226972]

>>4226964
learn your fundies bro, you are making us animeCHADS look bad.

[Anonymous No.4226983]

>>4226972
there are alot of fundies...which fundies mistakes are most visible so i can work on those

[Anonymous No.4226990]

>>4226956
Your right. I've been feeling mentally ill lately. I am starting to get attracted to men. Are you a guy?

[Anonymous No.4227053]

>don't draw
>feel like shit because you didn't draw

>draw
>feel like shit because you didn't make any noticeable improvements

I'm like 3 disappointments away from cutting my dick off and getting tranny money on patreon instead of making it.

[Anonymous No.4227090]

>>4226983
Forms, probably. I see that you're not thinking in 3d, which is why everything looks weird.

That said, everything else follows. If you haven't learned forms yet, you'd probably have to relearn values/shading to fit the new 3d thinking you have. Also learning 3d forms means learning perspective, yadda yadda...

In short, probably everything.

[Anonymous No.4227175]

I turned a study into this.

[Anonymous No.4227255]

honest to god i really am trying but i know i have to make a more concerted effort to not fucking chicken scratch

i don't want to go in circles like these other dumb cunts in the thread who can't understand volume

[Anonymous No.4227270]

ouo workin on it ouo

[Anonymous No.4227280]

>>4226716
A bit too cluttered.
Also, don't "just wing it" when it comes to anatomy.
You're just going to build up bad habits that way.
Use a ref instead, there's a lot of free 3d models on sketchfab that will give you a reasonable idea of what something should look like.
Other than that, the only advice I can give you is to just continue drawing.

[Anonymous No.4227299]

>>4226639
>lineart ends up feeling flat, do you do this because you color them later?
Nah. I usually do the lineart and move on. Don't think I'm ready to do colors or shading yet. These drawings i do everyday I hope is counting towards your "practice anatomy and a bit more construction" advice.

I appreciate the help and those drawings you did, the head on the second one was the angle I was going for in the first place but kept messing it up so I gave up. Nice job on it, I am jelly.

How am I supposed to make a drawing not look flat without shading or colors though?

>>4226652
>If he wants to draw more volumetrically then he will, if he doesn't want to then I guess he won't.
I do but i dunno how and AFAIK the only way to give these more volume, based on some advice I get here and stuff I've seen, is to shade or add color which I probably should get to learning soon.

>I don't really get why him or anyone else though just posts drawings with no questions/comments
It's just for me. I find it motivating to have the goal to post these here everyday for the public to see. Even if it's just to have it be shit on or have no comments on it at all.

[Anonymous No.4227336]

>>4227255

nothing you can do about motor control. It's all about mileage.

[Anonymous No.4227363]

>>4227255
>i don't want to go in circles like these other dumb cunts in the thread who can't understand volume
NGMI with that superiority complex, senpai.

[Anonymous No.4227364]

>>4225810
used reference for pose. how i do

[Anonymous No.4227400]

>>4226369
If you don't start until you're "good enough" you'll never start anon

>>4226427
U right

[Anonymous No.4227422]

>>4227400
nigga he's telling you to walk before you can run

[Anonymous No.4227424]

Learning how to draw skulls

[Anonymous No.4227426]

>>4227424

[Anonymous No.4227433]

>>4226983
>which fundies mistakes are most visible so i can work on those

[Anonymous No.4227448]

>>4226959
kek

[Anonymous No.4227485]

>>4227255
Pay attention to the planning, not the line quality. Line quality naturally improves when the sketch is clear.

[Anonymous No.4227488]

>>4227485

all that work... Just use your fkin eyes.

[Anonymous No.4227496]

>>4227488
He used his eyes AND his brain nowork.

[Anonymous No.4227502]

the fibbonaci sequence is some tripe bullshit. you can fit it on just about any hunk of shit. just one of those placebos lol

[Anonymous No.4227505]

>>4227502
Aggreed 100%

[Anonymous No.4227507]

>>4227488
Tealguy decides to appear and this is how he is treated. Shame on you, /ic/

[Anonymous No.4227516]

>>4227507
But all that work just for a hammer. Jesus, no wonder most BEGS see that and wanna off themselves for not having that advanced level of autism.
If you wanna do a hammer, I'm with the other anon, just draw a hammer with big forms and your eyes.

[Anonymous No.4227517]

>>4227485
>Line quality naturally improves when the sketch is clear.
It's hard but I'll try my best again with a larger focus on planning. I get lost a lot obsessing over the likeness of the original subject. It's awful.

I also get lost a lot on trying to properly "fit" and "get" the ellipses of objects into the "right" space. It's as if I can't quite tell if the ellipses looks like it would actually belong there in perspective. I don't know if anyone else here has any advice for that.

Also since I'm /beg/ as fuck I'll try to take longer on thinking about these household object sketches. Not sure if I can match what you produce but I can try.

[Anonymous No.4227522]

>>4227516
That's only for demonstration purposes. It's what those who go by feel can't explain because it's so ingrained in them

[Anonymous No.4227525]

>>4227517
>I also get lost a lot on trying to properly "fit" and "get" the ellipses of objects into the "right" space
This is why you're supposed to read Perspective Made Easy from cover to cover. All of this is explained in one book, you just need to settle down and read it. Don't skip through it as if it were a game manual.

[Anonymous No.4227537]

>>4227502
Nice rule of thirds, good placement. Subject is at the center but not he main focus. Notice how he obstructs the person behind him naturally. All the other people look to eachother, yet this man's focus is on the screen....

[Anonymous No.4227548]

>>4227485
how do you paint like that? it is just a normal paint brush?

[Anonymous No.4227552]

[Anonymous No.4227557]

>>4225858
I think i fixed most of it besides the knees and feet, need to learn how to draw a fucking tree before doing the background

[Anonymous No.4227588]

>>4227255
>i don't want to go in circles like these other dumb cunts in the thread who can't understand volume
kek fucking love you guys
coming here reading begs shooting each others in the legs is my second fav part my break

[Anonymous No.4227628]

>>4227422
Ok?
What I'm telling you is that if I wait to cross some imaginary boundary before I start making what I want to I'll never be happy with what I make, so I'll never start.

Specifically hands are difficult for me, especially in full figures, but I can both make a comic and get better at drawing at the same time lol

[Anonymous No.4227672]

[Anonymous No.4227681]

>>4227628
You have the right to not be happy with your work, point of life is always improving, never stagnating and doing what you love. Any artist worth a shit will tell you your biggest critic is yourself and also that's a good artists biggest quality. Just don't let that mentality consume you and intimidate you from making anything and feeling bad about your flaws. Because if anything, an artist is most known for their flaws and most people won't know that right away. An artist imitates life with a canvas so of course you're going to find a flaw, just make it a flaw you want to associate yourself with.

[Anonymous No.4227690]

Should I study the the whole body at once or focus on different parts one at a time?

[Anonymous No.4227712]

>>4227690
just the toes

[Anonymous No.4227782]

can i get compositional critique on this? blue dots are my vanishing points but i also dont really know what vanishing points are or how to use them, or when i should use them. art teacher just told me i need to have more interesting perspectives.

[Anonymous No.4227783]

>>4227548
Skill. Paint brushes dont buy skill, dyep

[Anonymous No.4227787]

>>4227672
do ur parents know you draw little kids in their underwear you little pedo freak?

[Anonymous No.4227788]

>>4227787
Its a bathing suit. Im no pedo.

[Anonymous No.4227790]

>>4227788
We both know what your doing there asshole. Just because you're posting on 4chan doesn't mean your excempt from being called out on your creepy pedo shit.

[Anonymous No.4227792]

>>4227557
im genuinely curious are you okay on how it turned out? like are you happy with the end result?
i can't finish anything beyond black and white and semi clean sketchs because i know i can do better but right now im not that good and if i try i would end up doing 60+hours on a single drawing and i would rather use that time to keep getting gud as i have been doing since forever and its working so far so the next time i try it it doesn't take 60 plus hours, but when i see anons like you finishing drawings like that i wonder what thought goes through your mind are you self conscious and just not care or you think it's almost impossible to draw way uh better or idk.

im not trying to brag about me im just interested in what could possibly be.

[Anonymous No.4227793]

>>4227672
Based and cunnypilled. You're going places kid.

[Anonymous No.4227795]

>>4227790
Piss off Roastie nobody likes you fuck off.

[Anonymous No.4227800]

>>4227782
Keep those walls straight bud

[Anonymous No.4227801]

>>4227672
use a ref

[Anonymous No.4227805]

>>4227800
... said the boomer

Didn't we get over importance symmetry in like.... 1940?

[Anonymous No.4227807]

>>4227800
Art and architectural design are two different things, anon.

[Anonymous No.4227810]

>>4227801
I did tho, i used a 3d model.

[Anonymous No.4227813]

>>4227810
>cheated
>still fucks up
/beg/

[Anonymous No.4227814]

>>4227807
>>4227805
you are in the wrong general, the "it's muh style/i draw bad on purpose" is two blocks down

>>>/a/lt

[Anonymous No.4227815]

>>4227810
post the ref you larping faggot

[Anonymous No.4227816]

>>4227807
>>4227805
What the fuck are you talking about

[Anonymous No.4227819]

>>4227816
they're shitposting retard

what else do you expect /beg/s to do besides draw

[Anonymous No.4227821]

>>4227816
Art. *clap* Is. *clap* Not. *clap* Architectural. *clap* Design. *clap* Boomer.

[Anonymous No.4227822]

>>4227815

[Anonymous No.4227823]

>>4227800
looking back at it i think i was trying to do a fisheye lens type thing, i just didnt know it yet lol. think i will make them straight after all though

[Anonymous No.4227826]

>>4227823
Anon just wants to force his grand art knowledge he learned from Proko videos on you.

[Anonymous No.4227828]

>>4227823
If you want to achieve the fish eye lens you gotta have a curve to the lines, from what you did all the lines are perfectly straight, which just makes it look like a weird trapezoid thing

[Anonymous No.4227834]

Should I continue working on this or move on to something else?

[Anonymous No.4227835]

>>4227834
Orbiter

[Anonymous No.4227836]

>>4227834
Finish it anon, and then post it. So I can fucking coom

[Anonymous No.4227837]

>>4227835
orbiter? i hardly even know her!

[Anonymous No.4227856]

I'm really confused on how you're supposed to apply perspective stuff from "Perspective Made Easy" or the boxes from DrawaBox to figure drawing. I can draw a box and have all the parallel lines meet up to the vanishing points and so on but how the fuck do you apply this to figure drawing? Are you really supposed to identify the horizon line in every single drawing you do? I just don't get it.

[Anonymous No.4227859]

>>4227856
lol drawabox is trash

[Anonymous No.4227874]

DrawaBox superimposed lines, trying not to grind these but I feel like I’m not learning much from them and my muscle memory isn’t really improving that much. Somebody on another website suggested I do Han’s SICO lines instead so I might as well do that in the future.

My ink was sorta running out (evident in some of the lines) which might be due to me pressing the pen down too hard.

[Anonymous No.4227879]

tips/thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4227888]

>>4227879
You seem to make the same mistakes last time you posted.Remember, the forehead is about 1/3 of the face.Have you tried flipping your canvas?

[Anonymous No.4227900]

>>4227888
man, i just forgot about the forehead, i was drawing some portraits before. I just get this wrong when i'm drawing from imagination. thx for the tip anyway.

[Anonymous No.4227932]

Been hard at work practicing from life then drawing from imagination. Still taking a shit ton of time just refining until it looks like I want it to. What do you guys think? I'm aiming for a semi-realistic comic book style.

[Anonymous No.4227942]

>>4227807
>>4227805
kek

I'll give you all one thing. I've never heard "MUH STYLE" being done in such a retarded fucking manner. Go fucking study perspective before you attempt to break it.

This >>4227821 is clearly an artist who knows what he's doing, breaking perspective consistently to achieve a specific aesthetic.

This >>4227782 is something that's just ful of perspective mistakes that make it look like the artist doesn't know what they're doing.

And that's okay. But don't come in here with this "but it's le art" bullshit.

[Anonymous No.4227944]

>>4227932
thumbnail looks really good

[Anonymous No.4228006]

>>4227792
i'm not happy with it, but that's because i haven't finished. I'm gonna put more hours doing the background, the shadows and fixing everything. I'm actually the opposite of you, i always try to finish every drawing no matter how much time it takes because i want to draw the idea that i had in my head and i think that you will not improve at doing backgrounds and picking colors and everything if you don't try it. I'm actually surprised that you thought that the drawing is finished.

[Anonymous No.4228040]

>>4227255
This definitely isn’t chicken scratch. Line planning and confidence comes with practice. As long as you’re aware of it you’re doing fine. You’re practicing perspective not line quality. Chicken scratch is when someone places lines without intent. You clearly have intent, it’s just a lack of technique/familiarity/confidence. Don’t feel bad about it

[Anonymous No.4228105]

>>4227856
are you talking about gesture or construction

[Anonymous No.4228185]

>>4227299
Back again, I see you constructed now.
>How am I supposed to make a drawing not look flat without shading or colors though?
I think the best ideas you can have is to add stronger line weight overall. Thicker lines can function as a "pseudo-shading" giving the sense of ambient occlusion.For example the lower side of the boobs can be thicker than the upper side. Even on the nipples you can just leave the upper half of the nipple off and it will still read. Same goes fro the crotch area or the armpits.

Crossing lines more, crossing line can give the feeling one thing being behind another thing especially if they are also using line weight. Like how you did at the elbow, neck, hair etc. done well will make the picture read better.

Better details in general, I know this is a meme advice. But providing attention to some subtle but important details can enhance the lineart but also to avoid unnecessary detail. This is a pet peeve of mine but every time I see someone have weak details around the crotch but a detailed pussy I get frustrated, the pussy is a minor detail around the otherwise complex form of the pelvis which can convey the feeling of a woman way better. There is no cruical need to put the pussy there anyways, everyone knows it is there, they are not stupid. It is a detail one does not really need unless it is a straight close up on it.
What I am getting at is "detail for detail's sake" isn't needed, the less cam certainly be more if you are putting it at the right places.

I know lineart can be scary as it is not the easiest thing, I encourage you to go in bravely. Lineart is messy and fiddly but it can also be a very powerful tool, I don't know if you are having doubts about your work and abilities or not (as we all do). I say try to do the line work with vigor. Maybe try using ink too? Ink is terrifying at first but it can help you improve tremendously I know it from experience after my art teacher kept kicking my ass to switch to ink already.

[Anonymous No.4228186]

>>4227900
>>4227879
Dude you are still making the same mistakes, please, PLEASE, slow down a bit and draw the whole head before putting in the oversized noses, eyes and mouth that is your biggest barrier right now.

Be mindful in what you are doing, do not just draw automatically from the gut, think pleas THINK about the process, THINK about what you are doing.

[Anonymous No.4228205]

I think I've learned art wrong. I haven't gotten better in months (Also went to university, so maybe that has to do with it)

I'm gonna try to reteach myself all the concepts I think I know, but also tackle the ones I don't (colour theory, perspective)

Have any of you other anons plateaued before? If so how did you get out of it and start improving again.

[Anonymous No.4228230]

Weird pose cause I wanted to try out the head/face angle like >>4226639

[Anonymous No.4228231]

>>4228230

I can't believe one person can be this stupid

[Anonymous No.4228233]

>>4228185
Oh that's a cute face and love the hair. I will try line weights and details next time.

>I don't know if you are having doubts about your work and abilities or not
I do otherwise I wouldn't be posting on a /beg/ thread but yeah, thanks for the tips, really appreciate em.

[Anonymous No.4228234]

>>4228230
proportions look off by a lot.
Try to measure stuff out more until it becomes ingrained in your memory how large something should be compared to the rest.

[Anonymous No.4228235]

>>4228230
Legs were freakishly small

[Anonymous No.4228237]

>>4228235
just like your brain

[Anonymous No.4228238]

>>4228231
Pyw

[Anonymous No.4228254]

>>4228238

[Anonymous No.4228260]

>>4228234
Yeah that's what I've been trying to do more recently. I keep a screenshot of anatomy proportions from a book an anon recommended to me before but I try not to consult it all the time to practice.

>>4228235
Thanks for the tip. I thought for sure the head was the one that was the problem

[Anonymous No.4228263]

>>4228254
This looks uncanny. Some aspects of the rendering look really good, but other aspects of this look atrocious.

[Anonymous No.4228271]

>>4227299
>I do but I dunno how
Cubes and cylinders look solid on the paper even if they're just lineart and no shading. You can make your figures look more solid by building them out of basic volumes like cubes and cylinders, like you're arranging Lego blocks on the paper. You can look at pretty much any anatomy or figure drawing book and see examples of this. Hampton's book is good.

[Anonymous No.4228275]

>>4225810
i got photoshop question, is this a good place to ask?
how can i change the color of the dots on this pattern? they are currently black

[Anonymous No.4228278]

should i be expecting a big improvement quickly?
im about a notebook in and on chapter 4 of Keys to Drawing and i dont actually feel like ive improved that much, though im always trying to do what the book says

[Anonymous No.4228284]

>>4228254
thats right bitch keep posting others people works

[Anonymous No.4228290]

>>4228263
>>4228238
>>4228254
That's obviously not his work he just posts random shit to troll you. That image is by a guy from a random guy from Malaysia from back in August.

[Anonymous No.4228294]

>>4228290
I know it's not his work, I can still comment on it.

[Anonymous No.4228297]

>>4228254
baste

[Anonymous No.4228313]

>>4228271
I do that but when I put on the outer contour lines all of it disappears. What am I doing wrong?

[Anonymous No.4228321]

Any crits?

[Anonymous No.4228324]

>>4227932
How the fuck is this beg?

[Anonymous No.4228329]

>>4228278
For the first few weeks it's typical because any knowledge is better then none but after that it's likely going to remain a slow growth process pretty much forever. Although speed is obviously a subjective thing.

[Anonymous No.4228345]

>>4228324
define beg

[Anonymous No.4228357]

>>4227672
>Somewhat decent art
>Ends up being pedo bullshit
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.4228358]

>>4228254

[Anonymous No.4228359]

>>4228357
>>4227672
Am I the only one that thinks this guy didn't mean to draw a loli but it looks that way because he fucked up the proportions?
The face looks like a normal teenage or adult animu grill.

[Anonymous No.4228362]

>>4228324
It's /beg/ because you're blind. You're in /beg/ because you can't tell how this is beg.

[Anonymous No.4228363]

rate my 1 min gesture.

[Anonymous No.4228371]

>>4228359
I’m not him

[this fucking guy again No.4228389]

some robot jonees

[this fucking guy again No.4228390]

>>4228389
How do y'all go about drawing the offset of the teeth (not the curve,how when it rotates in 3D it's not like a flat plane on the mouth, but it's inside the mouth)?

[Anonymous No.4228392]

>>4228371
Obviously you aren't, you retarded wojak shitter.

[Anonymous No.4228396]

>>4228358

[Anonymous No.4228414]

First time posting here.
Been trying to get a grip on digital drawing. C&C would be welcome.

[Anonymous No.4228419]

Was working on faces/heads mainly with Huston and Bucci's material.

Also doing a page of boxes for the 250 box challenge every few days.

Felt inspired when I saw another anons attempt at Kat, which I'd never seen before but thought looked neat.

This was my attempt, using refs for the character, but composition for the pose from imagination.

I suspect pretty much all of the anatomy is wonky, but I can't really picture how. Any pointers? Quick redline?

Let me know if this is better suited for /asg/.

[Anonymous No.4228438]

>>4228359
I tried to make her 6.5 heads tall or similar to pic related but i fucked it up completely.

[Anonymous No.4228453]

>>4228419
The pose looks nice but the lines are veeery messy.

[Anonymous No.4228454]

>>4228438
So I was right!
I think one of the biggest issues were the limbs, her arms look tiny

[Anonymous No.4228460]

>>4228363
You need to use more straight lines, especially where there are joints

[Anonymous No.4228461]

>>4228453
I'm still new to drawing (as in started just over a month ago) and haven't gotten a feel for how much canvas I need, what zoom step I should be drawing in etc.

What you see here is the size at 100%. I guess that really messes with your ability to do clean lines?

What are your settings anon?

[Anonymous No.4228487]

>>4228454
Tiny in what way, thickness length? I know im having difficulty with arms in perspective espically female arms without making them look muscular.

[Anonymous No.4228542]

here is what I did along with minor adjustments. some feedback and redlines

ref: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c2/2d/b5/c22db57969aae0947f10e91ba0f61fd1.jpg

[Anonymous No.4228554]

>>4228414
I'm not a pro by any means, but I'll give you a crit if you want.
Anatomy : Character looks a bit flat, not enough volume. I can see that you tried giving some on the right and left arms, but it's not really enough IMO. There's also no detail in the abdominal area. 1 nipple is missing. The character also looks a bit stiff. Might want to work on the posing a bit

Colors : The color choices by themselves are fine, but you need to add shadows and highlights.I see that you added one behind his chest, but once again, it's not enough. You have to apply shadows everywhere they need to be.

Other : Make sure that your linework is consistent throughout the entirety of the drawing. For example, the face, hair and beard have a way thinner linework than the rest of the body.

[Anonymous No.4228567]

>>4227255
>>4228040
It's referred to as a 'broken' line and indeed a style thing

[Anonymous No.4228621]

>>4227932
>>4228324
Because every time I post in /int/ they send me to /beg/ and because I still feel pretty /beg/.

I've expanded the design a bit. I know this is messy but I wanted to get something down.

[Anonymous No.4228782]

>>4225964
Looks like a pretty rough sketch so it's hard to give specific pointers, but it has a nice gesture. Work more on your 3D shapes (the gun and shoes look very wonky, for example) as well as making precise line marks.

If you only focus on making gesture, your subjects won't look like they live on a 3D space, specially when drawing something like a gun which has no real gesture. DrawaBox is your friend.

[Anonymous No.4228787]

>>4226964
Good taste in shipping

[Anonymous No.4228797]

>>4226939
Based warcrimes Ruskie

[Anonymous No.4228803]

>>4228290
That’s from Mikufag, not Malaysia.

[Anonymous No.4228830]

>>4228186
Thx man i'll get this right next time

[Anonymous No.4228835]

>>4228358
kek

[Anonymous No.4228865]

>>4228363
I get what your trying to do with going over the form but there is neither a point in curving over so often nor do your lines actually convey the form properly . Less is more.

[Anonymous No.4228878]

i tried making the lines more curved. i think it looks fine, but i have no idea how to navigate putting things up on the wall to match where it curves. when i follow the ceiling's curves exactly it comes out looking weird

[Anonymous No.4228940]

>>4226983
>>4227433
>which fundies mistakes are most visible so i can work on those

[Anonymous No.4228944]

what do you think ouo

[Anonymous No.4228953]

DOING SOME BRIDGMAN STUDIES

[Anonymous No.4228954]

>>4228953

[Anonymous No.4228956]

>>4228944
it's terrirying

[Anonymous No.4228958]

>>4228944
The linework's too blurry so I can't really tell the hair and the white background apart

[Anonymous No.4228965]

>>4228958
true ,i think rendering the hair would help

[Anonymous No.4228966]

>>4228953
>>4228954

[Anonymous No.4229026]

>>4225810
I'm braindead so excuse me
What exercises are there to correct how I perceive angles? I struggle a lot with drawing straight lines at the correct angle from observation, which makes practicing boxes difficult of course. Is it just a "keep trying until you get it right" thing or are there any specific exercises I can do for it?

[Anonymous No.4229062]

>>4229026
more mileage

[Anonymous No.4229080]

30 min drawing from real life reference

[Anonymous No.4229091]

>>4228105
I would assume both? Shouldn't you keep perspective in mind for ANY drawing of a real thing?

[Anonymous No.4229102]

>>4229091
gesture is not the same as constrution, gesture it's about drawing the line of action and construction it's what the name implies

[Anonymous No.4229111]

>>4229091
>>4229102
They do however go hand in hand during all stages and frequently some amount of structure is needed to show or emphasize the gesture.

[Anonymous No.4229140]

>>4228235
Aren't the legs the length of your head and torso combined? Those are a little too long...

[Anonymous No.4229161]

>>4229140
Half your total body length is a "realistic" ideal that a tall person might have. However its very common to stylize the legs to much longer then that and you'll often see comic or anime characters etc have ratios that are 4/5 or 3/4.

[Anonymous No.4229169]

>perspective made easy
this shit is crazy boring and i feel my gorilla brain decay after having to reread sentences over and over because this shit was written in boomer times

[Anonymous No.4229174]

>>4229111
Gesture is the first step, cs- lines( is not supposed to describe form, no contours , no structure etc) just a flat abstract shape that resembles the action of the pose. construction or better known as the mannequin phase is adding contour, form, basic shapes, structure, etc to describe the figure in perspective and 3 dimensionally on the sheet. You don’t use construction for gesture but you use gesture for construction.

[Anonymous No.4229177]

>>4227834
I can dig it. Would like to see more of your work in the future.

[Anonymous No.4229182]

>>4228944
Uncanny valley

[Anonymous No.4229183]

>>4229174
but i never used gesture and my drawings from ''imagination'' are god tier

[Anonymous No.4229184]

>>4228944
I like it.

[Anonymous No.4229187]

Polishing turds but better than nothing. About to fix the guy and start over. Still unsure of how I want the dino standing

[Anonymous No.4229190]

>>4229187
the dino is making that anime girl stance

[Anonymous No.4229194]

>>4229190
Yeah. I wasnt sure if I wanted more side or more forward...ended up with a coy, pee holding stance. You think bringing the right forward and rotating toward you would look better? Or both legs looking left?

[Anonymous No.4229209]

>>4229187
its been a while since i looked up a dino, but just by your drawing the leg who is behind doesnt make sence if you use the other leg who is in full view as a reference to pin point the other leg since the dino its almost in a full side view but somehow the other leg the one who is behind her body its almost completly rotate facing the viewer which is impossible to be placed that far in the front not sure if it makes sense

[Anonymous No.4229218]

>>4229209
lol i dont know why i said her

[Anonymous No.4229223]

>>4228944
The teeth and nose are "uncanny" as the other guy said. The eyes have no glint and seem unfinished. The neck is misaligned with the face. The strands of hair around her face just blend with the background. About the color, it just look flat for me.

[Anonymous No.4229227]

>>4229169
lol just grind boxes

[Anonymous No.4229230]

>>4229209
Wow thanks, that makes a lot of sense. I recognized there was an issue but wasnt quite sure how to overcome it. I'll keep this In mind as I start over. I've kind of struggled to get the construction right so your draw over is enlightening.

[Anonymous No.4229234]

>>4229230
just think in 3D

[Anonymous No.4229236]

>>4229227
nigga that's really what i'm about to do and try out scott robertson's "how to draw"

>>4229230
learn perspective and draw through your forms idiot

[Anonymous No.4229263]

>>4229183
With a statement like that, you know you gotta post your work

[Anonymous No.4229268]

>>4229263

[Anonymous No.4229270]

>>4229268
OH NO NO NO NO

[Anonymous No.4229271]

>>4229268

[Anonymous No.4229282]

>>4229223
<3 tenk for the critic
>>4229184
tenkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[Anonymous No.4229304]

>>4229268
This is what learning to render before learning to draw looks like.

[Anonymous No.4229312]

Crabshura

[Anonymous No.4229327]

>>4228567
A broken line for a broken person. It finally makes sense...
Crawling_in_my_skin.mp4

[Anonymous No.4229332]

>>4229304
>>4228254

if you have to ask..

[Anonymous No.4229341]

man I dunno how to make a normal round hard brush in csp.

[Anonymous No.4229351]

>>4229341
I didn't use lasso tool either.

[Anonymous No.4229355]

>>4228621

you belong here.

[Anonymous No.4229359]

No NSFW thread available

This is my first cock painted ever
I mean, at least intently
No reference, made from scratch using a mental porn library

[Anonymous No.4229365]

>>4229359
is that even a human dick?

[Anonymous No.4229373]

>>4229359
>no reference
It shows. I don't even understand how you came to the conclusion of "yep, that's what a human penis looks like."
Now I want to see your dick to see if you just have a weirdly shaped dong.

[Anonymous No.4229379]

>>4228567
Is there any way to pass from a broken line to a bold/clean one ?

[Anonymous No.4229395]

Nothing personal, nordcuck.

[Anonymous No.4229398]

>>4229359
>call yourself artist
>can't even draw pee pee
PEE PEE CHECK /ic/

[Anonymous No.4229402]

>>4229395
stop posting wojaks and actually practice.

[Anonymous No.4229406]

yo

Ive been trying to make cleaner linework and have more weight to drawings.

I know areas like the face need to be heavily touched up as they are essentially base-less wrinkles. But how can I go about adding more "density" to the rest of the character?

Any other critiques or references is appreciated.

Also, as a general question, is there a place to find anatomical studies of fantasy races? Or a method to use that can be applied to such?

One can always use the human anatomy and adjust it accordingly, but I wanted to expand my horizons incase there were any alternatives.

[Anonymous No.4229407]

>>4229268
Perspective is fucked. Face is fucked. Anatomy is fucked.

Learn your fundies.

[Anonymous No.4229413]

>>4229406

not /beg/

[Anonymous No.4229414]

>>4229407
AHHHHHHH ITS A MEME AHHHHHHH HOW NEW ARE YOU

[Anonymous No.4229416]

>>4229413
You think so? I never really considered myself above beg. But alright, Ill move my questions to the other threads.

Thanks.

[Anonymous No.4229417]

>>4229416
Honestly /int thread is slow compared to /beg and people there still shitpost.

[Anonymous No.4229418]

>>4229414

>HE POSTED HIS WORK?
>LOAD THE TRANNY DISCORD AND CRAB IT

[Anonymous No.4229420]

>>4229413
You're right. He should instead go to /int/ and then get redirected back to here like 90% of people do because /int/ is 90% shitposting

[Anonymous No.4229421]

>>4229418
No nigga literally this image is old as shit an is used alot in the cursed art threads but ok.

[Anonymous No.4229426]

>>4229421
I know i just tried to /biz/post when i saw the pinkwojak

[Anonymous No.4229462]

>>4229312
I'd love someone pointing out why it sucks.

[Anonymous No.4229465]

>>4229312
>>4229462
The pose is stiff. Needs more values. Line work is weak. Face looks flat

[Anonymous No.4229466]

>>4229462
i dont know anything about crab claws, the legs are ...theres something off the right one is larger ? or just the very bottom of it and his feet is kinda short/small, the pants are okay tho

[Anonymous No.4229478]

>>4229465
Books on values and linework to read?
I still don't know how to draw faces, and my poses are damn weak.
I've started drawing 3 months ago and now I'm following a course in concept art and this is supposed to be homework.
>>4229466
It's one of those weird hippie baggy pants and I didn't look at reference because I've just found out the name and I still don't know how fabric is supposed to work.

[Anonymous No.4229491]

>>4229398
When did I call myself an artist?
There is people at the top of the porn industry that draw penises more exaggeratedly than mine

[Anonymous No.4229492]

>>4229491
>porn isnt art/doesn't take skill
ok boomer.

[Anonymous No.4229493]

Precoblin

[Anonymous No.4229497]

>>4229492
>Something being art means it takes skill
>All porn is art
>Everyone who draws or paints should consider themselves an artist or aim to be considered one like there isn't criteria available to branch out the action of making lines on a canvas
>ok boomer

[Anonymous No.4229501]

>>4229492
>>4229497
>ok boomer
ok zoomer

[Anonymous No.4229502]

>>4229493
coneblin

[Anonymous No.4229509]

>>4229497
>if a steak is well done it's not a steak
it is, just a subjectively bad one. Or in this case low brow. But yes it's a huge boomer mentality. Painting isn't for just the upperclass bourgeoisie. Anyone can get a cheap huion and pirate whatever gook shit is on the market. Being an artist isn't the feat, it's being a good one.

[Anonymous No.4229515]

>>4229509
Then your point still is that everyone who draws paints etc should be considered an artist?

[Anonymous No.4229525]

>>4227837
Beta orbiter

[Anonymous No.4229532]

>>4228254
Based

[Anonymous No.4229536]

I want to be a pixiv Jap god king any advice on how to improve?

[Anonymous No.4229539]

>>4229515
duh

[Anonymous No.4229540]

>>4229536
make your animu girl have a neck

[Anonymous No.4229543]

>>4229536
learn anatomy first

[Anonymous No.4229548]

>>4229536
stop posting on /ic/

[Anonymous No.4229572]

>>4229355
I know that...

Thanks for the feedback though. Top notch critique.

[Anonymous No.4229626]

Ive been working on this shading style compared to my usual harder shading, but im having a rough time of it. balancing on how far to go etc.

[Anonymous No.4229640]

I've been drawing for two years I'm still a beginner how do I leave this plateau?
What books would you recommend? I've done Loomis fun with a pencil and Hamptons design and invention.

[Anonymous No.4229647]

>>4229536
Draw more hands

[Anonymous No.4229662]

>weekend begins
>binge on videogames 24/7
>start drawing again this monday
>brain is smoothie
why do I do this

also, what are great warmup exercises?

[Anonymous No.4229664]

>>4229640
You need to post your work in order to get advice on what to improve on, dumbass.

[Anonymous No.4229672]

>>4229664
sketches and figure drawings

[Anonymous No.4229739]

>>4228554
Thank you Anon. I appreciate it! I'll try to get better.

[Anonymous No.4229757]

>>4229304
Worked out for Sakimi-chan.

[Anonymous No.4229760]

>>4229359
Silent Hill monster.

>>4229395
> implying Rome at its height wasn't run by Germanics

[Anonymous No.4229762]

>>4229395
> Roman soldiers with long hair and beards who look like Greeks and Persians
Anon you can't draw and you can't into history.

[Anonymous No.4229824]

new

>>4229823

[Anonymous No.4229826]

>>4229821
>>4229824
oh no no no no

[Anonymous No.4229833]

>>4229821

>pruned
im sure mods never visit this board or they take forever, how they do it this fast? don't tell me someone is a janny here

[Anonymous No.4231960]

>>4225810
want advice to improve but if you're willing to improve the drawing so i can see what's wrong i'd really appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.4231964]

>>4225864
left leg bad looks broken right leg looks good left arm also needs some work

[Anonymous No.4232021]

>>4228567
I like the lost and found line!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHo0kPkz9IQ&t=36s

[Anonymous No.4232138]

>>4229478
>weird hippy baggy pants
another thing stolen by white culture