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What are the professional rates to charge for portraits? Are there any guidelines regarding this topic?

>> No.4218488

>>4218479
John Singer Sargent used to charge the equivalent of 300 grand for a portrait. So considering all the factors and that you are asking in IC, I'd say you should charge nothing and be greatful for the experience of someone staying still for you or blessed that they sent a photo of them to your cumstained, pen deathgrippring fingers.

>> No.4218491

A pencil portrait typically runs somewhere about 500 euros. I imagine paintings are pricier.
I honestly doubt you can get more than 200 for digital unless you’ve made a name for yourself.

>> No.4218492

>>4218488
>>4218491
Yeah yeah I should have mentioned that I want to do digital portraits but I am not sure how much I should charge for them

>> No.4218499

>>4218492
Never forget basic economy 101

Supply and demand and hourly wages.

Know how much time it takes you to finish a work. Know if that timeframe is reasonable. Then know the minimum wage per hour in your country. Now do the hours it takes to do a portrait times the minimun wage. Add a 5 percent and you have a baseline

This is where supply and demand comes in. If you have too many clients, up the prices. If you don't have as much as you want then get lower towards the baseline. A facial only portrait should NOT take you more than 12 hours if you want to be competitive.

>> No.4218516

>>4218499
Speaking of supply, you need to supply something that a photoshop filter can’t. Very few people who are going to pay decent money for a portrait, let alone a digital portrait, are going to be impressed by generic mixer brush vomit

>> No.4218540

>The Graphic Artists Guild Handbook: Pricing & Ethical Guidelines is the industry bible for communication design and illustration professionals. Each new edition continues the tradition of providing excellent, up-to-date guidance and advice, incorporating new information, listings, and pricing guidelines.

>> No.4218587

>>4218516
Do you consider OP pic rel worth paying for? Is it good?

>> No.4218615

>>4218587
I mean, I could see myself paying for it, but the question is how much?
It’s a greyscale jpg with obvious mixer brush memery and smudging the edges to make it look more “artsy” and is basically a sincere version of >>4217602

>> No.4218618

>>4218492
Digital portraits ?
I don't think you'll be very successful. People who want portraits done want a physical object to put on their wall.
Or so I imagine.

>> No.4218626

>>4218479
Okay another thing to remember about Singer Sargeant. The people who usually want drawn portraits nowadays are narcissitic to the bone.

Sargent, besides being a master painter, used to make a performance during his live paintings to entratain and make the person feel important. It is said that he used to make all sorts of faces and lunge at the canvas with a bursh to make it more of a "performance" and say to themselves "WOW a real ARTIST is painting ME with all sorts of emotion WOOOWEE!"

So, remember, make the person feel special first, art second and you'll get the big bux

>> No.4218654

>>4218479
https://artistchristinacarmel.com/custom-portrait-cost/
just one artist's page but I see similar prices listed, for popular artists, this is what they charge for already made pieces on their store, and they don't disclose what it costs for a commissioned portrait. If you're working in digital, you're going to probably be charging a 10th of this.

>> No.4218746

>>4218626
>>4218488
Sargent was also a major celebrity at the time and his friends were all celebrities and social elite. It was also the gilded age and industrial revolution so there was tons of mega rich new money type who wanted to emulate actual royalty and nobles by paying top dollar for portraits by top celebrities. It’s like if Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk paid Taylor Swift to write them a song.

>> No.4218781

>>4218746
Now I can’t stop thinking about what a Taylor Swift song about Bezos would sound like

>> No.4218803

>>4218654
This artist is illustrat tier awful and selling pieces for 1k+. Idk if I should be inspired or defeated. How do I inflate my ego to this level??

>> No.4218819

>>4218803
If she can sell her portraits then you can too, although idk if she’s actually making a comfortable living or even able to sustain her self with just her work.

>> No.4218824

>>4218819
>https://artistchristinacarmel.com/custom-portrait-cost/
To be fair if you're male you have to be 100 times better to attain the same prices.

>> No.4218860

>>4218824
>>4218803
Pls no bully art mommy waifu

>> No.4218870

>>4218803
>https://artistchristinacarmel.com/custom-portrait-cost/
How the fuck is she getting those prices for that shit? Is she just selling off that website of hers?

>> No.4218882

>>4218870
I googled her and she a bunch of her reviews mentioned art festivals. I would bet a large number of sales are due to being personable and chatting up boomers.

>> No.4218885

>>4218824
That’s an excuse based on nothing but negative thought patterns, which gets you nowhere in life, if you’re charismatic and have good business skills then there’s no reason you can’t, if you don’t have these qualities then maybe you need to hire someone to sell for you. Besides the point, it’s not hard to be better than her anyways.

>> No.4218894

>>4218885
The social pill is the hardest to swallow. Being likable has just as much to do with success as competence.

>> No.4219033
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4219033

>>4218870
should i use her painting technique to raise my prices?

>> No.4219123

>>4219033
wtf is that? Special needs painting?

>> No.4219246

>>4219033
Now THIS is making it

>> No.4219261

>>4219033
>>4219123
>>4219246
Leave her alone you incels

>> No.4219272

>>4218479
oil? 500 to 5000 depending on your renown.

charcoal? 150 or less

>> No.4219284

>>4219272
Why are you talking out your ass?

>> No.4219465

>>4219033
Nice colors.

>> No.4219729

>>4219033
Hope those aren't oils

>> No.4219732

>>4219729
Don't think they let the patients have those.