Jesus Christ

[Anonymous No.4195572]

This painting of Jesus Christ, created by Leonardo Da Vinci, was sold for $450.3 million dollars, to the king of Saudi Arabia in 2017. What are your thoughts on this painting? How does it make you feel that you will never sell one of your paintings for a million dollars, let alone one penny. Isnt this idolatry in Islam? They will probably destroy this painting.

[Anonymous No.4195591]

They probably already have considering it's missing

[Anonymous No.4195597]

>>4195572
Needs more loomis, hands too small, read the sticky.

[Anonymous No.4195647]

>>4195597
Based and gmi

[Anonymous No.4195655]

>>4195591
heh... nice detective skills kid...

[Anonymous No.4195659]

>>4195572
Just wondering, what the fuck does jesus have on the left hand. It cannot be glass since the light doesn't reflect in the painting. And the white three dots? Is it supposed to be the universe? Thats a lazy way to portray it.

[Anonymous No.4195660]

>>4195659
I believe that's its an unfinished glass or crystal ball

[Anonymous No.4195662]

>>4195572
>Da Vinci
he didn't sell it he dead

[Anonymous No.4195683]

>>4195572

[Anonymous No.4195693]

>>4195572
I thought this painting was a fake

[Anonymous No.4195706]

>>4195572
Lol same bait everyday. My holy sacrament.

No, it isn't idolatry because Muslims don't worship Jesus as the Son of God, he's just recognized as a prophet. Besides, how pious do you think a Saudi king really is?

Most artists don't ever see the millions their works sell for, even if still alive. Has nothing to do with being beg tier ic artist.

>>4195659
It's not lazy you ngmi. Should be subtle so it doesn't overpower the face and hand. Check out how he rendered the rough surface along the right edge.

[Anonymous No.4195710]

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG

but I'm pretty sure leonardo davinci isn't the one selling his own paintings for milions of dollars rofl

[Anonymous No.4195843]

>>4195572
1. It's fake.
2. It was only "sold" to mask a transfer of half a billion dollars when actually, something else was bought for that money.
3. Yes, this is some 007 tier shit.
4. This is mostly the case when ridiculous sums are paid for art or other stuff.

[Anonymous No.4195960]

>>4195706
>No, it isn't idolatry because Muslims don't worship Jesus as the Son of God

Muslims would consider depictions of Jesus by people who recognize him as the Son of God as idolatry though. And that's already an extremely charitable view of paintings in Islam.

I'm assuming you are Catholic yourself? How do you go about viewing religious art? Is it like a weekly rumination thing or is it done at random?

[Anonymous No.4196598]

>>4195572
>They will probably destroy this painting.
I can guarantee they probably have.

[Anonymous No.4197397]

>>4195683
>JeeJ vs SussuS

[Anonymous No.4197506]

>>4195960
You make a good point, and strict Muslims might adhere to total aniconism (as well as Muslim cultures of the past), but the majority don't seem to give a fuck, there's figurative art all over the Muslim world. Ok, but you're right, less so of Jesus. I didn't know this, but it would be considered worst than figurative art in general. When you read the Quran you sorta get the feeling that Jesus was not really a big deal, so that's what I assumed.

I'm a godless heathen. I view religious art often, but at random, usually as research tangential to something else.

[Anonymous No.4197588]

Jesus never existed, so it doesn't matter

[Anonymous No.4197593]

>>4197506
>sorta get the feeling that Jesus was not really a big deal
if you interpret his message as 'god is a part of me, and im here to tell you god is also a part of all of you', instead of putting him on a pedestal for somehow being closer to god than us, then yeah.

[Anonymous No.4197604]

>>4197588
>Jesus never existed, so it doesn't matter
Actually he did dumbass there is literal proof he did, now if it's the same guy that did all the miracles etc. THAT can be argued but that Jesus and his mother Marry didn't exist is a fool error.

[Anonymous No.4197634]

>>4197593
Well, you and >>4195960 should have an argument, then.

[Anonymous No.4197641]

>>4197634
i worded it wrong. i mean we should not interpret his message as him being special.

[Anonymous No.4197711]

>>4197641
Right, that's how I felt the Quran was teaching it. My point being that I'm therefore surprised that it's true that a depiction of Jesus is often seen as idolatrous like one of God or Mohammed. From the perspective of a Muslim, Jesus, not being God or of God, is not one you worship, so it's just a painting of a regular guy. So you'd think it wouldn't be seen as idolatrous, at least, not in the hands of Muslims.

[Anonymous No.4197962]

>>4197711
So are painting/depictions of humans haram or not? I was under the impression that strict muslims would not want pictures of God, Jesus or whatever. I never understand when I see ultra religious ones in major art museums, surrounded by huge Rubens paintings....

>>4195843
I like this more than most other 'Leo's'. So if it is a fake I'm ok with that anyway.

Thought I'd read recently it was going to re-appear for the Paris exhibition?

[Anonymous No.4197978]

Dont let this thread make you forget that Saudi arabian kings and most other UAE country monarchs imports American and Russian women to be live-in sex toys.

[Anonymous No.4198267]

>>4197978
you refer to human trafficking? its been so long since ive seen that brought up, for the past few months its been 'think of the children'

[Anonymous No.4198275]

>>4197604
I think Jesus was just the Chris Angel of his time and used it to trick everybody.

[Anonymous No.4198276]

>>4197978
Those men are so disgusting, no wonder so many of the girls turned into sex slaves there kill themselves.

[Anonymous No.4198795]

>>4197962
It's frowned upon by strict Muslims, but if you go to any Muslim country you'll notice there are images, paintings, sculptures everywhere... they have tv and internet and stuff.. so yeah.

It'd be funny if you turned on the tv in Iran and it was just geometric patterns :D

[Anonymous No.4198811]

>>4197978
Yeah, like I said, these aren't pious people anyways, they don't give a fuck what Islam says until it justifies rape, murder, and other such pleasures.

[Anonymous No.4198820]

>>4195591
>Muslims destroy a great work of Western art
>not a word from the news
Huh!

[Anonymous No.4198823]

>>4197604
I've heard this a lot, and I'm not saying I doubt the historical consensus, but what was the proof specifically?

[Anonymous No.4198827]

>>4197588
You mean,
>Jesus existed, and it doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.4198833]

>>4198823
Tacitus lived during Nero's persecutions and he attests to Christ being martyred by Pontius Pilate during the reign of Tiberius.

http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/christians.htm

[Anonymous No.4199542]

>>4197978
american women deserve it, russian not so much

[Anonymous No.4201522]

>>4198795
>>4197962

I am the original responder who said muslims would consider depictions of Jesus as idolatry. I spoke with someone, these quotes should help.

>The Prophet raised his head and said, "Those are the people who, whenever a pious man dies amongst them, make a place of worship at his grave and then they make those pictures in it. Those are the worst creatures in the Sight of Allah."
>Let there be curse upon the Jews and the Christians that they have taken the graves of their Prophets as places of worship.
>Beware of those who preceded you and used to take the graves of their prophets and righteous men as places of worship, but you must not take graves as mosques; I forbid you to do that.

In other words, people who venerate the righteous but don't actually emulate their behavior are cursed, and since people are always forgetting stuff, future generations will naturally venerate depictions of the righteous because they'd have no clue what they were like. Muslim countries have depictions of humans everywhere since it is a necessary means of communication. But God knows best and all that.