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Why is this board so negative? people post good art they have done and some commenters sound really jealous and bitter and try to bring them down? or they nitpick on anything in the art that doesn't align with some art teachers words - it's called style and how art is subjective - people draw and create and see things differently.

And secondly everyone seems to be in a rush and want results immediately -- there seems to be a level of paranoia as if art is going away, it's always going to be around, you've got a good 50+ YEARS to get your art together!,so why not be positive and do the same for others here who are trying to get to the same place??
Whats the rush for? i really don't understand.

>> No.4180293

We're not drawing for fun, we're aiming to become the best we can be.

>> No.4180297

>>4180289
Because this isn't #possed culture like reddit or tumblr where you get praised for shit work anon. "positivity" doesn't make you better it makes you complacent and stagnant

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>>4180289
If someone gmi, then they leave and we lose frens. that's the truth

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4180308

Most of the people here don’t even draw, nearly all of them are beg tier/ have never finished a commission in their life.

Just go find a good discord, it’ll help you much more than this place will.

I only post around here out of habit.
The discords you find floating around are overall much more helpful and personal, as long as nosebro isn’t in them.

>> No.4180313

>>4180289
Crabs in a bucket. There's a reason why everyone is called a crab here. Lonely dissatisfied people taking out their frustration by sabotaging other anons.

There are also no good art improvement sites around anymore, so people flock here where they can be more open and opinionated instead of Reddit or Discord or wherever (and I can't blame them). Of course this place isn't good either, outside of the resources. The resources are great and you can find just about anything.

>> No.4180316

>>4180293
Regardless, you've got your whole lifetime to do so, why is there a need to be the best now, ? it's impossible, not everyone can be number 1, or sell today? that doesn't make you an artist - Van Gogh sold one painiting in his lifetime. Look at him now.

>> No.4180318

>>4180297
Positivity goes a long way in motivating people, but they have to be willing to take the constructive criticism too. It's a two-way street. I'm remembering Sinix I think mentioned this, that he waltzed into a thread of pros on CA.org and submitted his shitty /beg/ sketches like a dunning-kruger, and they ended up giving him helpful advice instead and encouraging him instead of giving him shit for it.

Outside of here I think most people are too coddled by the positivity or they can't handle someone even suggesting "hey work on this some more." But /ic/ has this totally defeatist attitude and I think that's unhealthy too. I think social media has isolated people and made them more selfish and fearful, which could contribute to this. It's less about a community trying to improve one another and instead everyone looking out for their own benefit.

>> No.4180321

>>4180316
OK good luck making a living after you're dead

>> No.4180328

Stop spamming threads. I can tell you are old person who doesn't understand much about board culture but the fact that you make a new thread for every piece you make is obnoxius and is making everyone here hate you and your art, even if they are good.
Yes /ic/ is a hostile place just like all of 4chan but man you aren't helping one bit.

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>>4180308
Pretty much this. The only good thing here are the books and memes.

>> No.4180342

>>4180308
>a good discord
there's no such thing
>>4180303
ill never leave you fren :), when i make it im taking you all with me

>> No.4180348

this is the best community I've ever been in and in general imageboards are excellent for every topic and interest, everything else is dumb boomer trash

>> No.4180354

>>4180289
theoretically because you're alive for around 70 years you should be able to get good by the time you're 70, but statistically every year past 35 you're less likely to succeed in any field. It doesn't really matter why, weather it's less free time, loss of ambition, energy, mental degradation, you are less likely to make anything great past 50. Sure it happens, but you don't see too many people start art in there 30s-40s and make it.

Another reason for people to rush is improving market value while they're still young, believe it or not everything we do is for the sake of finding a mate biologically, all our ambitions are fed by this at its core, to find the best mate and reproduce, art or music can get a mediocre looking man a pretty hot wife.

Lastly because I want to be good at art, I don't want to spend 50 years hating my work, and I would much rather spend my days doing art at work then coming home, having a family and social life over going to a job I dislike, having a family, and being mediocre at art because the lack of free time.

I'm going to attempt at my dream life rather than settle for a mediocre one, suck my cock and blow it out your ass.

>> No.4180361

>>4180289
>sound really jealous and bitter and try to bring them down?
ive not experienced this, just been ignored really. not sure what all the fuss about /ic/ being horrible is aside from the horrid threads about bullshit popping up every so often.

>> No.4180363

>>4180313
This.

Trying to be better is hard. Diminishing others' works is easier.

>> No.4180379

>>4180354
Lol, you can stand to be less self-righteous and edgy man.

>> No.4180386

It’s mostly white noise, the only time it becomes a problem for artists on here is when they engage with the trolls, then it all goes downhill. Just work and post work and ignore people that talk down to you without any valid criticism and are clearly looking for a rise. You can also fight back and say something positive every now and again, it goes a longer way than you think. We can do it together, buddy.

>> No.4180392

>>4180354
TIL 50 is not young

>> No.4180394
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>>4180328
Because there is SO much to learn about some korean image board, the dynamics are too hard to comprehend....

Bullshit, you just think YOU belong here and no one else, especially people better at art than you.

Here's my latest

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>>4180289
>Why is this board so negative?
Because this is 4chan, the main reason people are here in the first place is to be total assholes and then comfortably get away with it because of the anonymity.

>> No.4180466

>>4180293
Speak for yourself. Drawing is supposed to be fun. If you don't have fun while drawing, perhaps you should stop already.

>> No.4180470

>>4180289
This board is actually the most friendly I've ever seen it.

>> No.4180471

>>4180452
true, people too often forget the true nature of this website

>> No.4180562

>>4180452
Not true. It's also for those of us that got used to forums and board culture before social media came and consumed the internet. Now this is what's left if you don't feel like attaching every post you make to a profile or your real name.

>> No.4180580

>>4180394
>Because there is SO much to learn about some korean image board, the dynamics are too hard to comprehend....

Apparently they are? You have five (5) fucking threads up at this very moment, all dedicated to your pieces. Apparently one thread or just using general /draw/ like everyone else is too hard for you.
But please continue your psychotic conspiracy rant instead behaving like all the other board users when it comes to posting your own work.

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>>4180297
Like 30% of the replies on this board are constructive criticism.The rest are trolling and insults. Really nobody wants a hugbox but this board is a fucking mess.

>> No.4180594

>>4180452
The people on /tv/ and /wg/ are pretty chill, just to name an example. /b/ is probably the most degenerate. And yeah, Ic is pretty bad too.

>> No.4180596

>>4180289
Cuz the tumbler shit is the tumbler shit.

>> No.4180607

>>4180592
>Like 30% of the replies on this board are constructive criticism
This is way too generous. Maybe 30% could vaguely be considered criticism, but it sure as shit isn't "constructive".

>> No.4180620

>>4180594
>/tv/
opinion discarded

>> No.4180631

>>4180289
I'm not entirely in a rush but I think there is a desire to want to git gud early enough to actually enjoy the fruits of your hard work, no one would train 50 years to be an engineer and then have, what, 15 years to actually work as an engineer?

People want to be successful at least before their 30s so that they can actually make some awesome shit and have fun drawing/painting things they're ACTUALLY PROUD OF before they're an old fart.

>> No.4180645

>>4180293
Nigger this ain't the renaissance era. Most of us aren't gonna get our dick sucked by the Pope. You have no reason to be the best because there is no "best." It's subjective. There's only "better than," that's objective. Be better than you wwre yesterday, but also have more fun with it than yesterday as well. If you're gonna commit, don't make it miserable on yourself.

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>>4180645
Art quality is not subjective you monstrously braindead fucking shit-eating seven-kinds-of-stupid retard kill yourself holy shit.

>> No.4180705

Art attracts feminine personality types which means there’s a lot of cattiness, passive aggression and outright sadism. It’s weird that hands on blue collar types like welders, plasterers and plumbers etc are always portrayed as low grade brutish assholes and often shitlib artistic types are portrayed as gentle, sympathetic people when in my experience the exact opposite is true. Masculine guys are happy to teach and enjoy passing on what they know while frail shitlibs just want to taste a tiny piece of power over someone else since they’re generally weak people.

>> No.4180743

>>4180705
This.

>> No.4180780

>>4180289
It's not that bad, people just want to get better faster, and some people see harsh negative crit as very helpful getting better. Also negativity on an anon board can only be so bad, if you cant handle harsh crit over some stranger online how will you fare with meeting that one asshole in real life.

>> No.4180797

>>4180780
People on /ic/ are a lot more vitriolic about art than anyone I've met in real life. People offline are almost always going to be nicer and more courteous than they are online, you never have to worry about someone reeeing about your art in real life as an anon would on /ic/

>> No.4180801

>>4180289
A lot of people here are just very insecure

>> No.4180822

>>4180289
What is the one thing that sets this place apart from other forums and communities? In fact, what is the selling point of 4chan as a whole? It's not hard to figure out.

>> No.4180830

>>4180705
True, It's no surprise to me though that feminine libcuck academia types are painted in society as the gentiles. Who do you think controls the entire media and academia?

>> No.4180831

>>4180780
This is the justification most crabs give, but the problem is they are usually missing the constructive part. You can't JUST be negative, you're not helping anyone by telling them that their work is shit if you don't tell them how to improve.

>> No.4180855

>>4180705
My cousin went into plumbing while I decided to go to some artsy liberal school, and this is spot on.

>> No.4181059

>>4180822
>from other forums and communities?
the fact that there arent other forums and communities? there are places to post your work and have a number go up, but nowhere else ive really seen with a community.

>> No.4181072

>>4180289
Read Loomis

>> No.4181073

>>4180289
Because most of the people here have gotten it into their head that art is a career and competition for who can make the finest Western Cannon Imitation and/or Big Anime Titty, and then make bank off it. People don't draw because the simply have to, or try and integrate art positively in their lives

Plus this site generally attracts goblins who like the negative/edgy connotation it has, and then they actively try to make it worse because that's what you're supposed to do on 4chan I guess

I'm gmi because I can draw for myself every day and enjoy it, whether I'm doing it as a full time job or just a personal hobby

>> No.4181076

>>4180705
I never understood why the “testosterone makes you aggressive” meme is so swallowed. The buffest and manliest blue collar dudes were usually some of the sweetest people in my experience.

>> No.4181098
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4181098

It's genuinely piss-easy to filter out good advice from bad here.

Good critique doesn't have to balance good and bad, your piece may well be all shit, but ill-intentioned advice remains easy to spot.

I've somehow attracted a few a
specific crabs myself, but that brings in some good knowledge from other posters sometimes.

>> No.4181104

>>4180797
>>4180831
yeah theres always the chance you'll run into dickheads on this board when you ask for criticism and it always feels bad, but once you wade through the trash and trolls sometimes you'll find crit that actually very useful.

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>>4180342
ok buddy, same.

>> No.4181768

>>4181076
It's swallowed because it is spread and endorsed by the same deranged people that don't have it

>> No.4182251

>>4180694
this

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>>4180289
There is an anon in the /beg/ thread who will bite the head off of any good post that doesn't seem too /beg/.
He posted his work once and it looked like some " how to draw anime " meme that this board shit on all the time. This place is just full of that sort of thing. Another example is pic related

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>> No.4182565

>>4182552
That is some scary shit, is there a guide on how to grow self-awareness?

>> No.4182572

>>4182565
No, I have grown to believe people who can't recognize their own shit levels have mental disorders. But that's just to make me feel better.

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>>4182565
>>4182572

>> No.4182585

>>4180289
the only reason I come here is because I know people will be unafraid to honestly tell me what is wrong with my work that I need to improve. I hate this place, but I can't find honesty anywhere else.

for example I recently painted this rose:
>>4182525

If I show my friends and family, they always tell me it's good, or, if I'm lucky, they'll couch critque in 10 sentences of praise.

if I post that on reddit, I'm gonna have to sift through 25 empty compliments for one critical post that may or may not be helpful.

I've literally taken a university class and done critiques and they were fucking babies about it. One girl cried because the instructor GENTLY pointed out a single thing she could improve. When I got up no one would say anything negative. It was like the opposite of a struggle session, everyone told me how good I was and I had to argue with them like "NO I'M FUCKING NOT, LOOK AT ALL THESE CLEAR MISTAKES"

The only place I can get real critique is from professional artists (very expensive) and here. I hate it here and hate /pol/ bullshit but now that conceptart.com went to shit, there's nowhere for real critique that isn't padded to hell and back.

>> No.4182600

>>4180289
>Why is this board so negative?
Welcome to the edgiest site on the internet.
>people post good art they have done and some commenters sound really jealous and bitter and try to bring them down?
People who frequent here are those that have nothing going on in their lives so you can imagine why there's so much negativity. Granted, most work that is posted is just bad. The good art that is posted here more often gets the appropriate praise and critique believe it or not.
>it's called style and how art is subjective
There are also situations where the poster has an inflated ego and thinks they're beyond critique because of their style so naturally they will get negative comments.
>And secondly everyone seems to be in a rush and want results immediately
Mostly noobs who are afraid to start and want to know if it's worth their time.

>> No.4182615

>>4182552
i mean that's not bad at all for a /beg/ and his advice seems on point even if i cant see what he was critiquing

>> No.4182617

>>4182615
>even if i cant see what he was critiquing
Guy who sketched the bottom drawing is critiquing the guy who sketched the top one. Bottom guy is being condescending as fuck even though he himself cannot follow his own advice. If you don't understand the disparity I will honestly just assume you're the bottom guy

>> No.4182621
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I remember when I was /beg/ and I used to pmw for critique before going to bed excited to see the replies in the morning. All you have to do is filter out the criticism from the junk and this place becomes the best art forum you can find anywhere. You can make a huge amount of progress as an artist in a very short span of time here because someone told you what exactly was wrong with some piece of shit you churned out. If you actually put in an effort to analyse your own work and communicate what your problems are, there will usually be some anon willing to meet you halfway (redline, some book recommendation, etc.)

You will be pressed to find that anywhere else, because everywhere else people don't want to risk sounding mean or nitpicky when their name is attached to their posts. I'm glad I found this place when I did, otherwise I might have ended up as your average deviantart faggot going "muh style". Genuinely just stop being a little baby bitch and learn to ignore ad homynyms from ANONYMOUS shitposters.

>> No.4182626

>>4180289
Short version: The good people move on, the bad stay.

>> No.4182676

>>4182621
>those thighs subtly peeking through the slits
god-tier design

>> No.4182785

>>4180289
too much c not enough i

>> No.4182940

>>4182621
If you did this it’s amazing.

>> No.4183071

>>4182621
Maybe I should post my work then. I've been nervous about being crabbed on that lately I've been trying to just see my own mistakes myself.

>> No.4183790

>>4180694
Art has many "qualities" beyond technical quality. All of which outclass and overshadow technique in my book. But these qualities aren't as easy to measure, so they're less useful for people whose ego is attached to art, and just about completely useless for anyone not trying to just sell something. The people who so vehemently defend the vain empty pursuit, are the ones with a stake in it, and ironically the ones who could use a bit of perspective the most.
>>4181098
>>4182572
>>4182621
Not everyone has a filter, or patience for some of the psychotic bitterness, and I've never understood why anons just seem to agree that it's their job or even right to force on someone. Is it your job to tell someone to sacrifice a bit of innocence or fun for some "toughness"? Well holy shit, you better be sure you're right about that equation, for your own sake, too. If you can put up with it, good for you.
>>4180470
This board is at the friendliest I've seen it too. Coincidentally, /dad/ and some of the other threads seem to be doing better than they ever have. Go back through the years and just look at the picture of this place just completely hemorrhaging talent from top to bottom. Real fine system there. If you've got an acquired taste for shit, or if your only weakness is laziness, and you're socially driven.
Policing the psychos is the answer, just like irl. Besides of course just trying to improve things by being better yourself.

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>>4180289
I fear the day when /ic/ becomes friendly. It feels like the last bastion of honest cynic judgment. Friendly places sicken me.

Please never change /ic/- you motivate me to git gud.

>> No.4183810

>>4183797
Sounds more like a troll that is about to lose his favorite place to shitpost.

>> No.4183812

>>4183810
ok

>> No.4183890

>>4183797
Cynicism and irreverence are great for dislodging stodgy, I'll fitting ideas. They have a very good place as a counterpart to the rule of law. But they can't function as a replacement, and tipping something entirely in either direction isn't desirable.

It's a shame, btw, to be so far tilted in life to equate niceness with dishonesty(or weakness, or stupidity, etc)

>> No.4183893

>>4180354
Is making it here considered making a living from your hobby or just being wicked at drawing?

>> No.4183906

>>4182621
>I remember when I was /beg/
can you show some of your current artwork please? i want to see how much ic helped you improve

>> No.4183919

>>4180293
Absolutely nobody here is going to become the best they can be. None of you are even trying.

Minmaxing art tips is incredibly stupid. You people should be drawing whatever you're interested in, posting it, and discussing it. Asking a million stupid questions and shitting on e-celebs isn't going to make you any better.

Quit this fantasy you're living in.

>> No.4183930

>>4180318
this

people are just being mean to say wow look at how different we are from those tumblr cucks amirite fellas

>> No.4184029

>>4180289
its 4chan

>> No.4184228

>>4183790
Post your work, shitter

>> No.4184290

>>4184228
Ah, thanks for asking. It's the wrong game to play buddy, win or lose. If I win, then I'm supporting an ideal of appeal to authority, and throwing pride into it. That's never right. All the while serving to obscure actual merit, reason, and worthwhile discussion. Therefore, the only real move is to call the game what it is.

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>>4180289
I guess that comes with the ability to post anonymous. There's going to be shitposters and people who genuinely bring down others, but I like to think a good amount of people who try to help others with their own knowledge and give meaningful (you)s, outweigh the bad.

>> No.4184314

>>4180293
lol what a retarded mindset

>> No.4184329

>>4184305
Make it that way anon, each good (you) takes the piss out of one shitpost

>> No.4184347

>>4180293
> become the best
Like no one ever was.

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Because there are a lot of shitters and they need to be put in their place.

>> No.4184366

>>4184347
To draw lolis is my real test,
To study loomis is my cause!

>> No.4184369

>>4180289
you type like a female and are obligated to have sex with me

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>>4184290
I knew it.
All the anons talking shit like they know half a damn about ANYthing and refuse to post their work ALWAYS end up being chicken scratching beginner tier shitters who can't draw for shit.

This is the ONLY truth of /ic/, not that garbage diarrhea of a blogpost you spewed earlier.

>> No.4184389

>>4182555
but why

>> No.4184396

>>4184353
It's always sad to see someone act low.
Oh well...
Good luck buddy.

>> No.4184401

>>4180452
At least were not /co/, where virgins beg for you to draw cheesecake of their favorite female superheros and then call you a misogynist pig when you deliver.

>> No.4184413

>>4184383
What are you so desperately avoidant of that all you can do is call on ad hominem and appeal to authority? You don't have a case. Period. And you are afraid of what you haven't been forcefed. It wouldn't be right would it, if some anon didn't have to go through what you have, is that it?
I'm worse than that anon, in fact I'm the worst here, it doesn't change the facts.

>> No.4184499

>>4184413
Dunno what the fuck you're prattling on about.
You have a mental disorder. I am done with this thread. I do wish you well though, you insane artfag.

>> No.4184651

>>4184389
seemed like the easiest bet in the world because i knew containercore, he backed out and i had to pay $20, ill never forgive that coward

>> No.4184697

>>4184651
Wait so, you took a bet that you knew you was wrong because you believed you could convince somebody to lie about it for ten fucking dollars? Is this person destitute? Who would involve themselves in your convoluted bullshit for 10 fucking dollars?

>> No.4185289

>>4184499
> since I don't understand I'll just call you something ambiguously demeaning and try to leave quietly.
Too easy poser
I really like that term, it's an old one, originates in canada I think.
Try this on. When you turn art into a social contest, you lose out, and so does everyone else. It delegitimizes your friendships when you give a fuck about this shit. Cheapens them to how much talent or effort they can give. One person will never be good enough to measure up, the next you're too much of a try hard for. It can't be any other way, as no two are exactly equal in terms of skill or taste, and even then it would still be based on something superficial. And you know where the loneliest place is? The "top". How do you know what's real or fake if you're successful in this forgery?
The answer of course is to not put any weight on these things- to the best of your ability, default to what you believe, but keeping a keen eye out for chances to broaden your perspective. And in all things find "excuses" to exercise openness, enjoyment, and experience. But anons do not do this by and large, they far prefer to throw their weight at any turn, even to psychopathic degrees.
The social game is a misery and ignorance maker, win or lose.
Meliora, misguided anon

>> No.4185326

>>4180303
daily reminder famous artist used to come here and originally posted her but got shit on, posted somewhere else and now make money from it.

>> No.4185328

>>4185326
Tehmeh and Simon got shit on here too.

>> No.4185546

>>4185326
>>4185328
It order to truly serve someone, as is the stated goal here, it requires you to place yourself below them. It doesn't work any other way. Yeah, you can give in self interest, it's called buying something. But it's easy to abuse humility, someone putting a hand out to you. All it takes is cynicism really, to wreck it. For this reason, /ic/ is consistently dominated by the strongest proud voice. Whether an offended /beg/ or a bragging professional- or, someone mistaking something for one of the two. It makes for quite the test of patience for anyone who tries it.

>> No.4185548

>>4180289
Because /ic/ is the /pol/ of art

>> No.4185771

>>4185289
>lonely at the top
i'm married you talentless psycho, lmfao

>> No.4185785

>>4185771
And what charming, enlightened offspring that pairing's sure to produce..

>> No.4185790

>>4180289
funny, I'm always praised here.

>> No.4185806

>>4180293
>I AM not drawing for fun, I AM aiming to become the best I can be
ftfy

>> No.4185816

>>4185785
yea he won't be deluded by copes and he will draw better than you lmfao

>> No.4185824

>>4185816
If you need attention, all you have to do is ask. I'm usually hanging around while I draw. But i believe in civility, it fosters things like respect and openness. And of course it helps to have a good point! Would you like to try again buddy?

>> No.4185826

>>4185824
the point was to post your work and you never did, retard

>> No.4185833
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>>4185824
>>4185826
Will mommy and daddy stop fighting and post their work? P-please?

>> No.4185838

>>4185826
I don't think regard is very civil, do you? Frankly, I don't require your thoughts on my work at the moment, least of all because I rather doubt anyone here would find an interest in it. But mostly because it's very much more effective here to remain anon for certain things. An ideal of cooperation in the face of psychopathy for instance. Do you suppose you have something adequate to trade for this? Some non-social reward since that's the principal avoidance to begin with? And just how will you "price" me beforehand? As nothing, as stated, which I accept and endorse fully.
Because that, here, like in all of life is the only honest way to serve.
Agree anon?

>> No.4185841

>>4185833
For the right reason and at the right time, of course, anon! But I think that's a long way off yet. Wish me luck here anon!

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>>4185833
Fine. You know what, fine. As an olive branch extension. I will be the bigger person here and post my work. Let it be known that I resorted to NO ad hominem, appeals to authority, or any such fallacies. I hope this will quell that mindless lumox's rage for now. Yes, it may not be quite professional, but my skill is refined enough for me to survive on commission work. This is a very very old quick sketch I was half awake for and almost threw away, but I guess it shall do for now. It shouldn't take much to shut him up!

>> No.4185845

>>4185842
Kek

>> No.4185850

>>4185842
I think I've see this posted around before big yikes

>> No.4185851

>>4185842
this is why I still come here

>> No.4185858

>>4185842
Listen anon, I'm trying to help you. What you don't realize is that by playing that game, win or lose it's the wrong game. And yes, for one, you are by default endorsing appeal to authority.
It's a direct correlation between the simple personal vice of pride and authoritarianism. And no one wants that do they?

You got down to the level of braying asses and brayed back at them. Do you feel better now?
Take the right lesson from this. (And keep up the artwork mang)

>> No.4185866

>>4185858
>>4185851
>>4185850
>>4185845
To all you replying to the deleted post, I'm pretty sure it was a falseflagger trying to delegitimize >>4185824 and his argument. I've seen those drawings before.

>> No.4185867

>>4185866
Wait, that or it was a very dedicated troll. I'm too lonely and horny to deal with this shit...

>> No.4185872

>>4183790
>Policing the psychos is the answer, just like irl.
Police yourself motherfucker. I believe you are a psycho, so I guess you get first dibs on admittance to the re-education center. You just want to turn this place into every other neutered social media site

>> No.4185883

>>4185872
Not correct. I have almost no experience with any other site. I don't even know how to use reddit for instance. I'm a ridiculously asocial perma lurker who has been here for a long time. 10 years ish? Boxxy was big, and I was here for puddi so at least that long. /ic/ was much later though.
No, I'm solely the product of this place good? And bad. Yay! Now you see, I've never really ascribed to some of the notions here, especially not that those driven from here deserved it or that it made this place better.
I'm after a place i believe in, for the sake of those anons in the past, yes, but more so for the future. Cynicism needs to be balanced with sentiment. Psychopathy needs to be cared for, not passed on. And dialogue succeeds when it is earnest, not when it is stilted by hate, jealousy, bitterness, etc.
Now if you'll calm down, I promise not to try to hug you too much

>> No.4185887

i dont know who's mad at who any more.

>> No.4185891

you just know that crazy nigga is gay and draws anime

>> No.4185893

>>4185887
How can a guy with a free hugs sign be mad? Lol. People can learn. This place lightening up a bit over time is ironically proof of this.
But even rainmen need sleep. Cya tomorrow and study hard anons!

>> No.4185930

>>4180694
>Art quality is not subjective
so fucking stupid. How is your art going after watching 20 hours of PragerU lectures, dipshit. The only aspect of art that is objective is life drawings, and that is all of it.