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>Carpal tunnel and cubital tunnel syndrome

>> No.4171847

I'm just lazy (draw about once a month) but whenever I draw I feel like I'm making progress, like I can figure out how to shade an object in the way I want to or get a line looking like how I want which feels good.
The idea of drawing a face puts me off though, I obviously can't get it right on the first try but I can't figure out how to learn how to do it in the least amount of effort so I just avoid drawing it.
Never had any health problems though so I'm really lucky

>> No.4171848

A fulltime job

>> No.4171849

>>4171843
I'm a lazy fuck that plays league for 3 hrs, and doodles a 5 second drawing, and go back on i/c and surf for another 4 hrs, then proceed to watch youtube for another 3 hrs, not to mention get off to lewd hentai whenever I feel horny from reading manwha's from artists I one day aspire to be. This is all going on while my parents support me with the hopes of me making it one day in something. I really wanna make it, but I think that's only me making it inside my head/dreams. I wish someone would just kill me.

>> No.4171856

Arthritis and not drawing enough and then not drawing enough because it actually hurts

>> No.4171936

>>4171843
No excuse i'm just a lazy bitch

>> No.4172027

>>4171849
This kinda, I am literally addicted to league. I just go home and play league ranked, I play it at lunch at work, if I sleep early, and wake up early enough, I'll play a match. I have a girl on snapchat who literally begs me to trade pics/talk dirty and I just fucking play league. Sometimes I don't bother cooking because I want to get as many games as possible.

It's a shit excuse tho and I am just a lazy fucking fuck.

>> No.4172029

>>4171843
Too lazy and not interested in an art career

>> No.4172032

>>4171843
Quadruplegic

>> No.4172133

>>4171843
Right now it seems to be apprehension that my next drawing will not be as good as my previous drawing that paralyzes me or doubts about whether or not I am studying the right things in the right way. Also simple procrastination.

>> No.4172138

>>4171843
Because I'm learning to model, animate, edit, vfx, particle sim, houdini, substance, rig, design, zbrush, typography, webflow, unity, c#, python, cinematography, lighting, fusion, ui/ux and drawing.

I'm all over the place

>> No.4172139

Because I'm gayer than this thread

>> No.4172140

>>4171843
No stop it goku!

>> No.4172144

>>4172133
omg i can relate to this too.. Like sometimes it stops me from drawing altogether. You just wanna stop at that one good drawing, because there's inevitably gonna be that phase where you need to shit out a bunch of awful drawings before you get to that good drawing again. It's just so fucking weird but true at the same time.

>> No.4172150

I got shitty advice 5 years ago from /ic/ that put me on the wrong path and now I can't unlearn the bad habits that are stuck forever

>> No.4172153

>>4171843
I'm a coomer. If it isn't lewd I have no interest in drawing it, so I'm only good at one thing (think Slugbox minus the samebody)

>> No.4172155
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4172155

I'm paralyzed by time slipping away and i got too interested in other things so i'm all over the place and i usually just end up procrastinating and barely getting anything done.

>> No.4172160

I have some kind of brain defect where I can't see my imagination, so I can't draw because I can't see what to draw in my mind.

>> No.4172166

>>4172150
what is it btw?

>> No.4172167

>>4171849
Literally me right now

>> No.4172169

>>4172166
loomis

>> No.4172171

Learning literary analysis in college upgraded my narcissism into narcissistic paranoia.

>> No.4172177

>>4172171
explain

i'm pretty sure i have the same condition but i don't see how literary analysis could have been the cause

>> No.4172261

>>4171843
Disability and lack of time, no one wants to hire a cripple permanently so I jump from temp job to temp job, whilst trying to improve on drawing. I hope I can make it eventually.

>> No.4172298

>>4172177
Learning to analyze vague subtext in the wider context of a story by writing 10 page papers on blue curtains and then applying that to every conversation i participate in and overhear.
My brain starts arranging everything negative in the context of how shitty I am. Eventually positive things all seem like backhanded jabs or pity.

>> No.4172311

I get distracted easily, time flies by, life, and I get discouraged when looking at present or past art that I drew, since it feels like I wasted all this time which nothing came out of it. About to go through vilppu drawing manual video hopefully I can actually make improvements.

>> No.4172323

>>4172298
Be warned, that could be the beginning stages of schizophrenia.

I find it difficult to use this site because I interpret posts that have nothing to do with me as containing hidden insults that are directed at me. It's to the point that I should consider discontinuing use of the site for my own sanity.

>> No.4172336

>>4171843
I hate the commercial side of art too much.

>> No.4172396

I died a long time ago. I'm just a ghost now and can only exert so much force. Enough force to push down keys on a keyboard but not enough to grip and move a pen or pencil fluidly. As useless in death as I was in life.

>> No.4172445

Lazy, just pure laziness and im currently have to dealt with school work at uni that had nothing to do with drawing or art itself...so sometimes i just gone home and went straight to sleep because i was too tired. I wanted to drop out of uni but dont have the balls to do it kek because it kinda swallow quite a chunk of my time and i couldve spent it on drawing or maybe finding a job to fund myself until i make it.

>> No.4172450

>>4171849
NGMI unironically. If you sank that low and didn't do anything about it, its over.

>> No.4172454

>>4171849
>then proceed to watch youtube for another 3 hrs
draw while you watch utube. or at least have your sketchbook and pencil or whatever out and nearby. maybe draw something from whatever it is you're watching.

>> No.4172455

>>4171849
>>4172027
>playing lol
This is the people I lurk with?

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>>4172027
>you
I was you from a few years back. I hope you are reading this because this can help you.

Having your parents support you is the worst thing in the world hands down. Get a job whatever it is. Become independent.

When you feel the reality of the world, it will all make sense. You will grow as a human and get your act together once you know you are alone against the world and the only one that can help you is YOU. You will drop addictions like masturbation and ooging at porn.

You will inevitably become more responsible, start to detest the place you are the moment and the only escape will be only ART. Start practicing and see your mistakes as an artist.

You will slowly become GMI as you grow as a person. Only when you grow as a human being you can grow as an artist. Doing little to nothing won't help you achieve anything. Life doesn't have a quicksaves, you will pay the consequences of laziness. The sooner you start developing as a person the better.

I hope I helped friend.

Tips: Read philosophy and art books.

>> No.4172561

>>4172548
Oof

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>>4171843
Too scared to take the plunge because i'm scared of turning into a ''starving artist'' if I ever decide to make this into a career, so I don't even bother trying to learn i and practice it.

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>>4172548
Based and wholesome

>> No.4172607

>>4171843
extremely short attention span and 0 dicipline.
the funny thing is that you can improve on both those things but i lack the attention span and dicipline to do so.

>> No.4172674

I just don't enjoy drawing, i like the results but i just don't have fun with the process.
Also i have the 'tism.

>> No.4172682

>>4172548
Not him, but thank you, i needed this

>> No.4172752

>>4172450
Why so negative and discouraging ? You've got to fall before you hit bottom and from there you claw your way out

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>>4171843
I was on the cusp of making it then I fucking GAVE UP like an idiot.
I don't know why the fuck I did, but I just quit. Right as big names started following me, right as every piece I posted got thousands of likes/reblogs/retweets and was pulling in hundreds of new followers every time I posted something.

I don't know if it was stage fright, or if just knowing I had it in me was good enough for me.
Eventually people kept messaging me asking where I was and if I was alright. I got sick of it so I deleted my sites. My art still floats out there but it leads to nothing.

I know I want to draw but I can't find the motivation anymore. I open a canvas and don't know what to draw. I don't know what kind of artist I want to be anymore.
I need help because I'm sitting on my abilities and it's wasting away. Every day passes I get more rusty but I just can't find the motivation to plug up my tablet.

>> No.4172754

I draw very odd and shameful porn, but I'm good at drawing and motivated to make it so I'm kind of happy

>> No.4172757

>>4172548
This video at timestamp has similar sentiment https://youtu.be/a71rha3140k?t=209

>> No.4172760

>>4171843
Anxiety

>> No.4172764

onions

>> No.4172765

>>4171843
I'm lazy

>> No.4172779

>>4171843
Lost my friend who encouraged me to do art. Lost my motivation.

My friend thought that I did art was the coolest thing, they were always encouraging me. I would post my art to my blogs and my friend and I would watch all the likes and messages come in together. It was a lot of fun.

My friend and I had a falling out eventually over petty relationship stuff.
For about 6 months after that I became insanely motivated/determined. I busted my ass to improve as an artist thinking that this friend was still out there watching me. I did more improving in those 6 months than I ever did in my whole life. The before and after product was insane, all because I felt like I had something to prove.

Eventually I came to understand that my friend had moved on though. They weren't watching me progress anymore, and I needed to move on too.
After that point I lost my motivation, and haven't been able to finish a drawing since then. I wish I could. I'm here now, that says something. Just still trying to find a reason to start again.

>> No.4172789

>>4172779
Well, you don't need to draw if you don't feel like it. It is a pity to be one's own slaver desu.

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>>4171843
My artistic tastes got tampered by excessive fetish porn consumption in the last few years and I feel my that I can't draw anymore without drawing it out. Feels humiliating and anytime I get anywhere good somewhere, the itch and horniness takes over wheras only years before I had full control over it to the point it was non-existant. Even managed to never get horny or aroused at erotic material.

Now my brain is riddled and its fucked me up. All I see in my work now is elements of my fetish and porn addiction at even at the most innocent or mundane of things. I fucking hate it.

>> No.4172831

>>4172779
You're making your friend sad in the afterlife by not drawing,
Do you want that?

>> No.4172849

>>4172548
This guy is full of shit, I moved out at an early age and all it did was fuck me up even more because I didn't have to dance around the ire of my parents every day. You'll still be a lazy fuck, you'll just be a lazy fuck with a full time job.

>> No.4172926

>>4172548
>Having your parents support you is the worst thing in the world hands down.

sounds like this anon doesn't have responsible and caring parents who wanted them to work hard while also living a happy life alongside them.
it'd be a sad life if i lived my life like yours anon where i walk over all those close to me just to be an ego-maniacal asshole with money.

>> No.4173106

>>4171843
i haven't started yet my nigga

>> No.4173155

>>4172548
Dude, I live on my own and work in software, did you read my post? No where do I say I'm supported by my parents, and I actually say I work. Glad it could help others I guess? It's not really the reality imo.

>> No.4173820

>>4172153
pyw

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>>4171843
I have a health condition that makes being a concept art wage slave or porn commission turd unless I get insured. It would simply be impossible for me to grind up the later from some cheap rebder monkey to concept designer. I need my medication. Its also type 1 so losing weight wont fix it.

>> No.4173977

>>4171843
- Most of the jobs are either too far or in shitholes like londonistan. My current job is only a 10 min walk and pays nearly the same as some of the senior positions offered that I've seen.
- Too much shit going on (I'm too invested in other hobbies), don't have much time to really to improve my shit, I get distracted too easily
- When I do focus on my art work, 90% of the time I end up getting bored of it and leave it half finished

>> No.4174264

>>4171849
>not using youtube as background noise during drawing
wasted potential in more than one way

>> No.4174278

>>4174264
>not downloading strictly instrumental music off of YouTube using youtube-dl to save bandwidth upon repeated listening and because you know that podcasts or anything with lyrics in it will just distract you potentially cutting your productivity in half

>> No.4174281

>>4171849
Replace League with Civ for me, everything else is spot on. I'm a parasite.

>> No.4174298

If I draw two hours tonight, that means I only have to catch up those two days where I didn't draw for two hours by drawing six hours tomorrow.

Only six hours. Nothing could go wrong. I can't wait until I get where I draw five hours per day. I won't miss any days and have to draw for twenty hours to catch up. No, sir.

>> No.4174330

I still don't know what I want out of life. I graduated college, got a bit of money, and I felt nothing. It was just weird. I don't know what making means for me, I like being complimented and beer money is nice, but is that it? I wish I didn't have to care about money at all, but more than that, I hope I can be more creative than I am right now.

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been so drained ive just been scribbling and flipping the end result horizontally and vertically

sometimes i see shit in it

honestly i don't know why i'm not gonna make it, probably because i don't get enough interaction with the art community

>> No.4174347

>>4174278
>not disabling your internet and burning CD's to escape the globalist mind virus and affirm your appreciation for music by allowing it to take up physical space

>> No.4174355

>>4173851
Look into the carnivore/zerocarb diet. I know people have cured type 2 with keto, it might help you manage.

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4174395

i tell my self ill draw but all i do is stare at the screen for an hour and then i go back to browing 4chan, watching youtube, or playing games i dont enjoy. i hope i die in my sleep desu i hate living like this

>> No.4174636

>>4172548
But if I have to cook tendies myself I will not have a time to draw

>> No.4174726

Have ADD but stopped prescription right before college because retard and dragged my feet through 4 years of shit getting literally nowhere.
Now that I have health insurance I can get back my ADD prescription and have hobbies again.

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>>4171843
>Laziness
>Depression
>Lack of time (yes and no)
>Long work weeks traveling for job (55 to 65, usually on the higher end)
>Lack of motivation and self-esteem (never gonna make it, why bother, you're not good enough, no one would like your dream projects anyway, your a waste of potential art-space for better more affluent people, the market is over-saturated)
>Job, work, and life fatigue (just wanna mellow out from all the shit I've been through)
>Video games (to mellow out and get some form of human contact that's not my all consuming job)

>> No.4174769

Fear of setting myself up for failure, wrecking my health physically and mentally, quitting other hobbies for time and money for supplies, spending months on it and then finding out I have no talent for it.
Irrational fear of "locking myself into failure" by making mistakes the first time around. Thoughts of "if all you make is mistakes then all you'll get better at is making mistakes".
Having neglected a diagnosis for bipolar for years and years because I never wanted to become one of those people who identify themselves with their diagnosis and spend their lives whining, making it even worse in the end.
Dislike/hatred for toothpaste-smiling, constantly social gym jocks and "Look at How I Fixed My Life in 3 Neat Steps" wankers making me averse to becoming one of them by trying to change my lifestyle.
Good old self-esteem ("these people have tried for years and years and years, even those people you call "bad" have been drawing literally since they could pick up a pen, better just let them harvest the fruits of their labor than coming in like a hooting retard and trying to make people compliment my fingerpainting").

Most importantly of all, though, the paralyzing anxiety that I might at some point just bam, lose everything I've worked for.
I have this weirdly specific anxiety where I can't believe in buildup of skills. Every time I make something, I'm choked by the idea that I might have forgotten all of this by the next time.
Practice every day for five hours, take one day's pause and all of a sudden all competence is wiped.

I just want to be able to draw for, say, ten minutes a day.
But I'm also self-defeating because of that earlier self-esteem issue point and I convince myself that literally every artist has been drawing four hours a day since childhood without a single pause.

>> No.4174771

>>4174769
Of course, if someone comes and says "this is how I learned to draw in just two years", I just go "nice luck having rich parents who pay for prestigious art schools/nice luck being a hyperactive NEET/nice luck happening upon your talent this late but even if I gut my daily life and my bank account and my credit rating and lock myself in my apartment with coffee enough to knock an entire army dead on the spot and make RSOTB exercises for four years straight I'll still not be able to draw a straight line".

Gah.

>> No.4174784

>>4174769
I get that feeling to where you try hard to draw, and the drawing just comes out worse than it ever has before. After many years of experiencing this, I feel like this is only normal in art progression. You draw draw and draw and hit a point where you start liking what you're drawing, and then suddenly fall into a long winding slump where it feels bad, and it just feels like you lost everything you worked for. I wonder if there is ever a point where you can get past this point, and draw well all the time, whenever you want.

I feel like this only applies to art though. Things like piano are solid, structured where you hit a certain note in order to make that sound, in art though, it's just wherever your wrist and hands take you. I wish things were a lot more solid and structured in art sometimes instead of being all over the place.

>> No.4174791

>>4171849
r u me?

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>>4171843
I DONT HAVE TIME!
RIGHT NOW I am taking a break from studying shit for midterms. I took too many credits and now I need to deal with it all. I only browse this place when I get up for classes, study breaks, or when I'm going to bed. I want to be good but everytime I want to draw I know the time drawing takes could have been a time I finished some kind of work! Priorities are there but DAMN does it make it difficult! and I really wanted to do inktober this year!

>> No.4174807

>>4174806
shit that didn't make sense. I try and leave some time everyday to draw something, but when I'm about to get my supplies to start I realize that I can use the time to instead finish some work or study for something. Sorry, it sounded like I had a stroke mid spiel.

>> No.4174826

>>4171843
Bitch please, there are quadriplegic artists on this planet right now; seek medical help and go back drawing

>> No.4174897

>>4172926
anon here

what the hell are you talking about?
If your perception of my words was that, you are seriously messed up. It is in fact the contrary.

The point was actually taking care of yourself and becoming more responsible.

>> No.4174906

>>4172849
hey what can I say, if you feel good being lazy and doing nothing- all the power to you.

It was your decision do remain lazy after moving out.
What I meant was once you become independent you will be pushed to care for yourself more or at least push you to the realisation that you have to square up and improve yourself.

>> No.4174916

this >>4172548
is for him
>>4171849
and you
>>4173155
got caught up somehow, sorry bout that

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4174991

My reason: I'm too old at 37 year old to 'be an artist' or to get paid for it, employers would see me as too far past the game and an 'old man' essentially - for comic art.
But here is some of my work anyhow

>> No.4175054

>>4171843
reminder these are the people on /ic/ giving art advice.

>> No.4175068

You people will bitch for anything. Im 24 and ive had carpal tunnel for 2 years. Been drawing for maybe 12 years now. Just stretch. Take breaks. Avoid awkward posture.

>> No.4175316

>>4175054
that's sucks

>> No.4175461

>>4174991
Looks good man! Dont let it bring you down!geniunley like it!

>> No.4175482

>>4174991
sounds tah me like yer shootin' yerself in the foot befo' the fight even started. *spits*

>> No.4176150

>>4174991
I like it.
Keep going.