/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4165735]

>be me
>buy wacom tablet
>the only thing I have inspiration to draw is degenerate fetish art
>post my art on a forum entirely dedicated to this specific fetish that I'm so ashamed of having that I don't even dare to reveal what it is on a anonymous imageboard(it's not CP)
>surprisingly the members of the forum actually enjoyed my art
>they made some very inspirational comments and constructive criticism
>now I feel more inspired than before to hone my art

Should I stop when it is still soon or should I keep entertaining those degenerates in exchange for a few motivation? I'm scared I might end up like Dobson and have my entire reputation stained by my fetish art era, mostly because I actually intend to make a serious webcomic with no fetish crap involved.

[Anonymous No.4165767]

can we have a hint as to what the fetish is?

[Anonymous No.4165773]

>>4165767
care bears dressed as star trek characters?

[Anonymous No.4165777]

>>4165767
Dobson's fetish art was inflation. But his reputation was not tainted by just fetish shit. His reputation was decimated by him being a constant hypocritical asshat.

And he's fat.

[Anonymous No.4165784]

Ive got money it being diapers....its diapers right?

[Anonymous No.4165787]

Live your life. If you want to make degenerate art do that. If you want to make a comic then do that. You can't know what you'll want when you're living in the future, so live the best life you can right now, and make whatever art that brings you joy.

[Anonymous No.4165788]

I'm in a similar situation. I think if you're using drawing your fetish as good motivation to improve your art then that's good. Just dont get comfortable and stagnate. And also make sure you're letting yourself draw a good balance of NSFW and safe for work content. I definitely think that it's helped me improve as an artist.

[Anonymous No.4165801]

>>4165735
I feel the same with furry art.

[Anonymous No.4165811]

>>4165801
>mfw anyone with subpar drawing skills can make a good amount of cash by drawing commissioned furry art

if I'm ever close to starve to death this seems like a good alternative option

[Anonymous No.4165819]

>>4165767
if I give a hint the thread will derail so no

[Anonymous No.4165820]

>>4165811
dude if you are starving you have better chances at getting a mcD job

a lowskill furry artist wont even make minimum wage not to mention it takes months or even years to build an audience

[Anonymous No.4165835]

>>4165735
Very roughly speaking - there's no difference between fetish/degenerate art and regular one. Apart from focusing on naughty bits (whatever they might be), tweaking gestures and composition you're using exactly same methods and amount of work either way.

If you're so scurred then just use two separate accounts. People will sniff you out when you make it anyway.

[Anonymous No.4165873]

>>4165819
just do it stop teasing, fuck sake most people here are already degenerates it's not like you are trying to impress anyone with how pure you are when non of us even know you. the most you will get is a few kink shaming shitposts my literal whos aka their opinions don't matter, so just reveal your fetish already

[Anonymous No.4165890]

>>4165819
This >>4165873
Don't be a pussy, anon.

[Anonymous No.4165893]

>>4165890
fine

urinary incontinence

[Anonymous No.4165896]

>>4165893
This is fairly tame compared to all the fetishes out there.

[Anonymous No.4165903]

>>4165896
it might look tame for you but it's my personal nasty little secret I keep from the entire world

[Anonymous No.4165908]

>>4165903
Everybody's own secrets seems to be the worst to themselves.

[Anonymous No.4165910]

>>4165893
>urinary incontinence

anon that is honestly not that bad my fetish is tomboys and muscle girls and i get called gay, closet homo all the time on this site but i don't let it get to me, you should do the same

[Anonymous No.4165915]

>>4165893
Ah that's easy work, all you have to do is draw some character normal with a wet stain on their cloths and a look of terror on their face.

[Anonymous No.4165930]

>>4165893
It's ok anon, that's pretty tame. My fetish is ass to mouth, and anal fisting and gaping, usually in the context of [anal] gangbangs. I would never draw it though.

[Anonymous No.4165939]

>>4165910
That's 4chan for you, I drew one trap character and the entire of /int/ think I'm gay.

[Anonymous No.4165941]

>>4165777
>His reputation was decimated by him being a constant hypocritical asshat.
How do people like Sam Hyde get away with it when Dobson cant?

how do people like

[Anonymous No.4165942]

>>4165941
Dobson made this and legitimately believes he's the hero of the feminist cause

[Anonymous No.4165948]

>>4165941
Sam Hyde has a "bad boy" image, Dobson has a "nice guy" image.

[Anonymous No.4165951]

>>4165735
Dobson was ruined by a lot of things, as long as you don't sperg out while keeping the creepy nice guy act, you won't turn out like him.

[Anonymous No.4165990]

>>4165893
That's nothing. I have a weight gain fetish, but also have motherfucking Anorexia. Kill me.

[Anonymous No.4165992]

>>4165735
It's ok to have multiple personas online, just make sure to get rid of all the breadcrumbs.
This means don't use a username you use anywhere else. Be it FB, DA, IG or whatever.
This includes not using your personal email for the forum.
It's ok to have fun, and you already got your feet wet. Might as well go all the way in.

[Anonymous No.4165995]

>>4165893
I'm into bestiality, cannibalism, and exhibitionism/humiliation atm. I expected something more shocking.

[Anonymous No.4166004]

>>4165942
There's a /d/egenerate who used to draw degrading things involving women, now he's a very popular webcomic artist and a feminist hero. Aaron Diaz is more annoying than Dobson but makes thousands a month. The only thing that matters is how popular you are.
Success changes everything. You are a 'slut' if you sleep around a lot, but if you are very successful or rich you are 'emancipated'.

[Anonymous No.4166008]

>>4165835
>Very roughly speaking - there's no difference between fetish/degenerate art and regular one.
kill yourself

[Anonymous No.4166011]

>>4165939
Traps are gay, just admit it

[Anonymous No.4166014]

>>4165930
Why the fuck wouldn’t you draw it? Pussy

[Anonymous No.4166016]

>>4166011
The gay Finns made me draw it.

[Anonymous No.4166017]

>>4165910
I don’t get it, I drew a pic of a dude sucking a trap’s huge, veiny, foreskin cock (and I mean really giving that shit a good licking, pulling the smegma off the foreskin) and I get called gay for some reason. Smh

[Anonymous No.4166020]

>>4166016
But you liked it, I saw you fapping

[Anonymous No.4166022]

>>4166017
Post the pic or GTFO

[Anonymous No.4166023]

>>4166004
I don’t think drawing fucked up shit makes someone fucked up, but I really despise the fake ass, bullshit narratives that the elites and their pr cronies invent.

[Anonymous No.4166024]

>>4165735
I wrote a cautionary post about this a while ago. If you're having any doubts you should not do it.

[Anonymous No.4166025]

>>4166020
I don't fap to my own materials.

[Anonymous No.4166032]

>>4166023
I think it's equally bad when someone wears it on their sleeve. I thought the "honest" people were automatically better but they're really just employing a different tactic.

[Anonymous No.4166039]

>>4165893
wanna know a secret? women on weight lifting tend to pee themself when lifting from straining too much

[Anonymous No.4166041]

>>4166023
I personally find the 'proud degenerate' types to be pretty cringey and would rather they kept their fucked up fantasies to themselves, but as long as they don't act out their fetish in public I don't care that much.

[Anonymous No.4166066]

>>4165941
Dobson couldn’t take actual genuine well meaning criticism so he would block everything that wasn’t universal praise, this guy blocked a dumbass for interacting with him which honestly is pretty standard now, people en masse block whenever they get dumb or shitty comments because current web has no moderation so it’s nothing worth writing home about.

[Anonymous No.4166077]

>>4165735
>be me
>into giantess and vore
>autism forces me to draw proportions
>actually improved somewhat, from extremely flat drawings to drawings that shows depth, even if a bit crude

[Anonymous No.4166088]

>>4165910
tomboys are the patricians choice and anyone who says otherwise is a raging faggot
muscle girls can be gay depending on the level of muscle

[Anonymous No.4166091]

>>4165893
>his fetish doesn't even put him on a government watchlist

[Anonymous No.4166104]

>>4165941
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure Sam does it to be a troll. Dobson on the other hand genuinely believes his hypocrisy, making him an easy target of trolls.

[Anonymous No.4166166]

>>4166088
pic would be hot if it was a dude

[Anonymous No.4166185]

>>4165735
Are there any forums where people appreciate tomboy futas locked in chastity forced to act more slutty/feminine?

[Anonymous No.4166194]

>>4165811
Well to an outsider, the work may be "subpar" and it may be "easy" but in reality that's alot more going on.
You have no idea what kinds of connections or relationship the artist has with his fanbase or how long it took them to get to that point.

Not to mention they could have just gotten lucky and found a specific niche that their artwork fills.

There's just so much more to it than that, and its so annoying to see normies wave off the amount of work it takes to even break min wage as a furry artist.

if it were really that easy then alot more people would be quitting their day jobs and and over saturating the market.

[Anonymous No.4166201]

>>4166185
Seconding this question.

[Anonymous No.4166207]

>>4166194
furries seem to have a much more specific taste than other fetishists. you need to draw in a certain style for them to care
or maybe it's just really saturated

[Anonymous No.4166223]

>>4165893
Better that it's number 1 than number 2.

[Anonymous No.4166226]

>>4166194
absolutely delusional post

t. someone who made more than min wage doing generic furry garbage

[Anonymous No.4166365]

>>4165893
My dude, I'm a gay furfag who is into farting.
it honestly isn't that bad.

[Anonymous No.4166418]

>>4165910
>>4165930
>>4165990
>>4165995
>>4166365
It's kind of adorable how this sort of confession always ends in a collective hug by fellow degenerates

[Anonymous No.4166427]

>>4165893
Oh wooow that's so crazy dude wooooah 4chan really is fucked up dude

Fuck you

[Anonymous No.4166431]

>>4166365
>I am triply mentally ill
Honestly I'd rather be around OP than you.

[Anonymous No.4166436]

>>4165941
Sam is 100% conscious of what he does and how people react to him. Dobson is 100% autistic and doesn't have a clue that he is. Being self aware is important.

[Anonymous No.4166440]

>>4166194
agreed. these retards need to take one (1) look at the front page of furaffinity to realize that their grass-is-greener furry delusion is complete horseshit. furaffinity is dripping wet with kids and poor russian students begging for people to commission them. if you have nsfw mode enabled on FA at least, if not MORE than, half of the front page is related to sales like YCH and what not. not to mention that furries are so fucking stupid they give out free bases that people turn into "adoptables" making 1 buck a pop off them. one DOLLAR. even if youre from a poor place like these russians are, you have to put in the work to get attention. there might be a high demand for furry art but it is filled by low cost third worlders drawing over the same sketch multiple times.

"furry art is easy money!" is the worst /ic/ meme to ever exist. if its so easy, then go do it. lets see how much money you make in a month competing with literal 13 year olds with nothing to do but draw for rubles.

[Anonymous No.4166442]

>>4166088
muscle girls are pure boner material, you can call me a fag if you want but that doesn't change facts

[Anonymous No.4166453]

>>4166440
Just out of curiosity, is it even possible to make a living with SFW furry? And by SFW I mean clean like Mouse Guard, not "fetish but not quite porn".
Or do you really have to be Ovopack tier to get commissions?

[Anonymous No.4166456]

>>4166453
if you are extremely popular, sure. how do you get that popular? good luck figuring it out. most of it requires shilling every single day. and most of the people who get popular draw lewd shit at least a few times to hook people in.

kids who start out as SFW furries on dA get popular over time so i guess you can do that if you want to post in groups of actual 13 year olds on that awful site.

[Anonymous No.4166459]

>>4165893
I'm actually anoyed at how tame it is. Just draw your fucking porn, pussy.

[Anonymous No.4166465]

>>4166459
What's worse, a horrible fetish that is well spread, or a tamer fetish that is so specific it would out you without error?

[Anonymous No.4166468]

>>4166465
Pissing fetish doesn't fit any of those two categories tho, it's both tame and fairly common.

[Anonymous No.4166471]

>>4166465
Keep it secret for now and if you get caught just don't get hyperdefnsive. Just own it and brush it off and maybe use it as free publicity

[Anonymous No.4166477]

>>4165893
Could be worse, at least you're not into MLP characters shitting in diapers like me.

[Anonymous No.4166484]

>>4166471
>Why, yes, I AM the tile patterns guy

[Anonymous No.4166491]

>>4165893
For fuck's sake, this is pretty vanilla, my dude. Your mind would be raped by dorses or knee bulb if you'd ever go on /d/. You must be young.

>>4166484
Kek

[Anonymous No.4166494]

>>4166185
>>4166201
>>>/d/
>>>/aco/

[Anonymous No.4166497]

>>4166491
>knee bulb

[Anonymous No.4166516]

>>4166491
>dorses
what is this
I won't google it

[Anonymous No.4166626]

>>4166516
>what is this
The beauty of the human mind.

Take a girl, transform her into a horse shaped penis bimbo, and you get this.

[Anonymous No.4166691]

>>4165767
seeing OP's pic id wager it's inflation

[Anonymous No.4166696]

>>4166626

[Anonymous No.4166712]

i have awful 'fetishes' but the weirdness of this shit always gets me. people would think i'm unstable-- you guys are funny.

[Anonymous No.4166726]

>>4166226
>Things that never happened

[Anonymous No.4166796]

>>4165735
>completely lost all my fetishes in the span of two years
>now nothing but vanilla tomboy gets me hard

[Anonymous No.4166813]

>>4166796
How did you do it?
I've been wanting to get rid of my fetishes for a while now, but I always seem to get sucked back in.

[Anonymous No.4166820]

>>4166813
not the quoted but I'm in a constant cycle where when I get tired of my extreme fetishes I go back to vanilla porn until I eventually get tired of it too and go back to my degenerate fetishes again

[Anonymous No.4166835]

>>4166453
Guys who designed and animated Zootopia did exactly that.

[Anonymous No.4166845]

>>4166796
I get it done like I'm taking a shit. I always use the same videos. I should get a gf.

[Anonymous No.4166873]

>>4166813
Actually I don't know, I guess it's accelerated so much that I went in the beginning
I still like some shit like tentacles, guro, lolies, but I no longer sexually aroused by that

[Anonymous No.4166891]

>>4165735
>buy wacom tablet
Yes, you are an absolute degenerate indeed.

[Anonymous No.4166966]

>>4166440
I think, like you said, it's just baddies coping and hoping they have a backup because they see shitty ychs, etc. You have to actually be good to charge good prices and get consistent work. Being sociable is probably the most important thing, so good luck if you're not a furry

[Anonymous No.4166973]

>>4166226
>neglects to mention he lives in third world shit hole

[Anonymous No.4167310]

>>4165735
Look if you don't have something you enjoy about art you probably won't keep doing it. I draw pretty girls and stupid looking animals when I'm just trying to unwind and I'm motivated to study so I can make those look better, and doing so makes me a better artist all around

[Anonymous No.4167322]

>>4166453
Lackadaisy?

[Anonymous No.4167461]

>>4166418
Yeah, for some reason people posting about their fetish always ends up super wholesome

[Anonymous No.4167464]

>>4166491
>>4166497
What the fuck is Knee Bulb

[Anonymous No.4167476]

Sexual satisfaction is the most powerful motivation that our brains have hardwired into them.
Why not harness that to fuel your art

[Anonymous No.4167478]

My ultimate fetish is undead necro incest /ss/

[Anonymous No.4167608]

>>4167464
Google bigkneelover :^)

[Anonymous No.4167610]

>>4167608
I... I really don't want to. People were willing to explain dorses in this thread, can someone please explain knee bulb?

[Anonymous No.4167646]

>>4167610
bigkneelover is shitty DA drawings of moes with inflated knees
it's bad but it doesn't give you ptsd like other things I've seen

[Anonymous No.4167651]

>>4167646
Cool, thanks for the reply. I appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.4167704]

>>4166436
This. Another example would be Dante from Devil May Cry series. The mainline is well-liked and the spin-off one is despised for this very reason. You can leave everything else and just change the voice to make nu-Dante entertaining. Compare:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP-UqnXSGDk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPKHxbOg19s

[Anonymous No.4168033]

>>4166436
the keyword is hypocrisy, one of the many examples of Dobson's hypocrisy is how he makes fun of the neckbeard stereotype while his real self fits the stereotype perfectly

[Anonymous No.4168059]

>>4165893
Today I learned some months ago that wanting to fuck monsters is actually vanilla as fuck.

Not sure how vanilla humans mentally regressing into animals is but it's a specific fetish of mine.

[Anonymous No.4168063]

>>4166088
Muscle tomboys with futa cocks is borderline gay

[Anonymous No.4168084]

>>4168059
you mean humanoid or half-humanoid monsters or completely bestial monsters?

[Anonymous No.4168091]

>>4168063
shut up

[Anonymous No.4168094]

All these sissy fetishes...

Necro is where the true shame is

[Anonymous No.4168100]

>>4168094
shut up, people hate pedophiles more.
and try being both.

[Anonymous No.4168101]

>>4165735
merunyaa moved from diaper shit to vanilla stuff and she's doing alright. Just do what you want

[Anonymous No.4168134]

>>4168100
I’m neither you disgusting faggot.

[Anonymous No.4168142]

>>4165896
>>4165915
>>4166091
>>4166427
>>4166459
>>4166491
NGMI crabs post your fetish.

[Anonymous No.4168153]

>>4168134
death to normies.

[Anonymous No.4168189]

>>4168153
Yeah yeah, weirdo.

[Anonymous No.4168195]

>>4168189
if you don't stop giving me (you)s i'm going to cum on you

[Anonymous No.4168202]

>>4168195
Don’t forget your man pills and bunny mask, freak.

[Anonymous No.4168206]

>>4168202
yeah, that's right faggot, keep talking to me like that. yeah, i bet i'm disgusting to you, you little moralfag bitch. oh, yeah, it just disgusts you that i'm jerking my dick right in front of you, right?
tell me i'm a freak again. do it, do it! do it!

[Anonymous No.4168215]

>>4168206
Does it make you hot being called a freak, huh?
Squeeze your lil hairless balls while you stroke your baby sized pecker.

[Anonymous No.4168219]

>>4168215
UUUUUUUUUAGH I'M COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGGGG

[Anonymous No.4168235]

>>4168219
Now, eat it.
Swallow your shame for daddy.

[Anonymous No.4168272]

>>4168142
Not them, but I'll confess mine.

My main ones are transformation, vore, and selfcest/narcissicism (sometimes I combine them). I mainly prefer humans turning into completely non-humanoid monsters/eldritch beings, and it's usually consensual (as in they willingly give up their humanity to become very powerful). But sometimes I can enjoy unwilling tf, as long as it's not too sadistic and the person still ultimately enjoys it. I also prefer consensual vore, but I can accept forced vore if the situation makes sense. As for selfcest, I only like it when the motivation is narcissisism (like the person imagines they can touch themself through a mirror and worship their body, transformed or not).

I blame my broken sexual fantasies on sci-fi/horror movies and games from my childhood. As a kid I remember liking the part where the villain would pull the 'one winged angel' trope and turn into a giant monster, or would eat his/her adversaries in order to win the keikaku. It's weird because I like the domination/power aspects, but I don't care much for extreme sadism/non-con. Nor am I submissive, like so many others who share similar fetishes to me.

And before anyone asks, I've never posted my degenerate art anywhere and I probably never will. It's pretty cringeworthy and I'd never want to subject anyone to having to see it, sorry. I already feel like a degenerate just for venting my dirty secret here.

[Anonymous No.4168426]

>>4165811
oh boy, it's another one of those
>furry art is easy and I'd be rich doing it

anon, stop calling other routes easy just because nobody is paying you to draw milfs

[Anonymous No.4168808]

>>4168272
>them
Stopped there.
I'm not reading your fetish, you (and 80% of the fetishists in this thread) are not welcome.

[Anonymous No.4168929]

>>4168808
The anon I replied to had quoted multiple other other posters, so I was using the multiple person version of 'them', not the tumblr version.

If you were reffering to the use of 'them' in the rest of my post, I just used it as a shorthand way of saying 'she/he' (instead of typing it out over and over), since I don't have a gender preference in my fetish.

I'll gladly stop posting about my degeneracy if others are offput by it, but others may not be as accommodating. You mentioned degenerates not being welcome, but this is 4chan we're talking about (home of the /d/ and /trash/ boards). If you were disgusted by my fetish, that's perfectly understandable. Sorry to have bothered you.

[Anonymous No.4169103]

>>4168272
>I mainly prefer humans turning into completely non-humanoid monsters
>as in they willingly give up their humanity to become very powerful
a CEO fetish, interesting

[Anonymous No.4169105]

>>4168059
>Today I learned some months ago that wanting to fuck monsters is actually vanilla as fuck.
How did you get to that conclusion?

[Anonymous No.4169130]

>>4169103
kek, this genuinely made me laugh. I never realized that connection until now.
Now that I think about it, even some of the villains in the games and movies I mentioned were CEO/business person types, so you're not too far off.

[Anonymous No.4169142]

>>4168808
If you're such a Tumbrlina snowflake faggot that you get triggered by the use of a word you don't like, get the fuck off of 4Chan.

[Anonymous No.4169145]

>>4169130
This stuff is settled so deep it can tell you things about yourself you don't even know.

[Anonymous No.4169679]

>>4165735
You don't need to feel so guilty about your fetishes. Of course you shouldn't be autistic and shove it in people's faces, but there's no need to hate yourself over it.

Of course I don't know what kind of people this community attracts, but I'm sure at least a few people in it are feeling the same way you do.

[Anonymous No.4170323]

>>4165893
just make it vaguely waterworks and you'll be fine

[Anonymous No.4170337]

>>4168142
Furniture

[Anonymous No.4170354]

>>4165942
not gonna lie if i had an inflation fetish i'd probably find this really good. i don't though.

[Anonymous No.4170450]

Man, fetishes are so fucking interesting. It's weird how we end up attaching pleasure to all kinds of stuff.

I wish there wasn't that big of a stigma around them so that there could be some serious research on how they actually work.

[Anonymous No.4170458]

>>4165942
not only does dobson get off on inflation, but kidnapping, torture AND murder as well

[Anonymous No.4170459]

>>4170450
there's a bit of material on fetishes but they all seem to start out with the premise of fetishes being awful.
they always slips in little phrases about how disgusting and wrong it is, and it makes me doubt the credibility of the rest of the work. it also feels a little speculative generally (their readings are pretty normie-tier)

[Anonymous No.4170507]

>>4170450
If you're really curious, there's typically atleast one thread trying to explain or discuss fetishes on >>/sci/ , and if there isn't then there's no harm in making your own.

[Anonymous No.4170597]

>>4170354
it's still kinda shit for a fetish like inflatopn honestly, maybe in 2006 it was fine, was dobson's heyday because the entry level was around a lower bar. times have changed.

[Anonymous No.4170745]

>>4170450
>>4170459
>>4170507
You should check out A Billion Wicked Thoughts. It touches on this stuff and was a very interesting read.

[Anonymous No.4170875]

>>4168142
Oh ok, here's my degenerate confession then.

After years of exploring, I know that I can be into pretty much anything (NTR, Scat, Rape, Guro, Omorashi, you name it.)
But I realized that I really like vanilla stuff (unironically hand holding, cuddling, and other silly intimate actions). I also have a thing for ear licking (it's very, very arousal for me) and oral stimulation in general.
Even without sex, what I really like to see is caring love between characters.

[Anonymous No.4171803]

>>4170875
>Even without sex, what I really like to see is caring love between characters

You sick fuck, that's worse than pedophilia and Scat combined. Fucking Ew.