How to I make it to level 3?

[Anonymous No.4113899]

I think there are 3 levels of development for artists.

>Level 1 = Beginners + really bad artists that get lots of (you)s to tell them what to fix or laugh at how bad they are
>Level 2 = Mediocre artists with minor flaws. Boring art. Everyone just ignores them and they get zero (you)s
>Level 3 = Pro artists that impress everyone and get many (you)s from people asking for their blog or crabs trying to pull them down.

How do I escape level 2? I feel like my skills have stagnated and I'll never leave this horrible "meh" level of skill. Not good, not bad just completely forgettable. I've been stuck at this level for years even though I keep studying. Have I hit my limit?

[Anonymous No.4113900]

>>4113899

There are much more levels than just 3. If you think the jump is that quick you're sadly mistaken.

[Anonymous No.4113901]

>>4113899
There aren't discrete levels, it's a gradient. Even the best artists on /ic/ get little attention sometimes. Focus on making baby steps to improve your work and fixing all your little errors, as well as putting more thought into concept, and creating more ambitious pieces in general

[Anonymous No.4113904]

>>4113899
more like 10. Everything below 7 is irrelevant

[Anonymous No.4113905]

>>4113899
Pyw

[Anonymous No.4113907]

>>4113899
P O S T
Y O U R
W O R K

[Anonymous No.4113912]

>>4113907
>>4113905

[Anonymous No.4113914]

>>4113912
Do you ever draw full bodies or backgrounds?

[Anonymous No.4113923]

>>4113912
qt

[Anonymous No.4113927]

>>4113912
studie the anatomy of the nose and eye a bit more closely,
Make your linework cleaner and more precise
don't be afraid of putting in color or dont use it at all.
Put character into your characters like expressions, less generic hair or clothes.

[Anonymous No.4113948]

Getting to level 3 is mainly about the appeal of your drawing. Do more master-studies and research appeal in drawing.

[Anonymous No.4113951]

>>4113899
>>4113912
You seem like the type of faggot who goes around asking people what brushes they are using.

[Anonymous No.4113953]

>>4113948
but old masters are dated and unappealing

[Anonymous No.4113954]

>>4113912
It's just a female head drawn from a boring angle against a boring plain color background. Where's the rest of the composition?

[Anonymous No.4113957]

>>4113953
Master studies doesn't just mean studying old masters, it means studying the works of people who have mastered what you want to draw

[Anonymous No.4113971]

>>4113912
> not even level 2
seriously, this is something i'd spit out during class due to shear boredom. if you weren't such a lazy ass maybe you'd get out of level 1.5

[Anonymous No.4113976]

>>4113971
crab

[Anonymous No.4114010]

>>4113899
>Mediocre artists with minor flaws. Boring art. Everyone just ignores them and they get zero (you)s

help

[Anonymous No.4114033]

>>4114010
Post one of your full figure drawing/painting

[Anonymous No.4114043]

bbbut scribble kibble said there are 6 levels

[Anonymous No.4114047]

>>4114033
>>4114001
these are my wips rn. i usually just give up b/c my drawings aren't appealing and no one likes them

[Anonymous No.4114086]

>>4114047
If those two are your wips, run away from here.
Leave /ic/ behind. Finish your wips. Build up a portfolio and send it out. Imho, you are gmi.

[Anonymous No.4114111]

>>4114047
those are really fucking good for /ic/

[Anonymous No.4114112]

>>4114047
I like your art, I was actually about to type up a post in /alt/ telling you not to give up on that wizard girl drawing. I feel like the only reason your art does not stand out is because I feel like there's a bit lacking conceptually and vision-wise. I feel you need to push your art further so that is leaves a distinct impression on people. Like in your flamethrower girl drawing, what's the mood of it? What are you trying to convey about this subject matter, is she happy-go-luckily spewing fire for the fun of it, or is she torching something for her job and is enjoying her work, or what? I feel trying to convey a more specific tone, feeling, and idea could help improve the memorability of your art.

[Anonymous No.4114140]

>>4113899
>there are 3 levels of development for autists
fixed

[Anonymous No.4114198]

>>4113912
Getting reactions with your art says less about your technical skill and more about how much your art communicates.

Here are 4 alternative versions of your drawing.
All inferior, but all more interesting.

You can only get away with "boring" art if you do fanart, and even then a more creative option would be better received by the community.

Now go and make at least 2 versions of this >>4114047 where you just let go of any constraints and draw the wackiest shit you can while retaining the concept idea.
Make an extreme angle, break her anatomy for a pyromaniac pose, maybe play heavily with lighting/shading to make that fire look fearsome.

It's all about eye candy.
But this is just about how to catch people's attention, your actual skill comes from retaining the audience cause they recognize your art is also well-done.

[Anonymous No.4114210]

>>4114047
>>4113912
I understand how you two feel completely. I think the simple answer is to narrow your vision on where you want to take your art, and generate way more personal work. rather than focusing on "correct" you need to focus on conveying a mood or idea

[Anonymous No.4114226]

>>4113899
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua0zMsDiAyg
level 4 you ascend beyond this realm. you never hear anything about these people cause they leave so abruptly.

[Anonymous No.4114229]

>>4114198
dafuuck xd

[Anonymous No.4114237]

>>4114198
UWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
SOOOOOOOOO WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKY

this is fucking trash. the OP used weird lighting and that subtlety sells a lot better than 'girl with house on head' or 'disgusting chipmunk woman'

[Anonymous No.4114240]

>>4114198
lmao

[Anonymous No.4114249]

>>4114240
i cant stop laughing

[Anonymous No.4114293]

>>4113899
lol life isn't a video game nerd

[Anonymous No.4114569]

>>4114237
> sells
OP is an impatient child. 4thelulz guy is obviously just making a statement about getting out your comfort box to improve your art. he whipped up 4 examples on no minutes. you don't even see his levels yet bruh.

[Anonymous No.4116962]

>>4114198
This guy, unironically, makes a damn good point

[Anonymous No.4117068]

>>4114198
>>4116962
this

[Anonymous No.4117073]

>>4114198
Based and GMI