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i cant stop chicken scratching what are some tips or exercises i can do to stop this shit?

>> No.4103540

>>4103539
Just stop chicken scratching.

>> No.4103541

>>4103539
practice not doing it by not doing it and you will do it less

>> No.4103542
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4103542

heres another example.i just rushed the hair in both pics btw so it doesnt look like they are in chemo

is this better?

>> No.4103544

>Drawing directly in pen
>Draw 20 straight lines, 20 s curves, each without lifting your hand
>Drawing with shoulder/elbow

>> No.4103546

>>4103542
what you should be aiming for is lines like those hips

>> No.4103553

>>4103540
>>4103541
but you can't or is really hard to get clean lines when you start drawing unless you are tracing a previous layer

>> No.4103555

>>4103539
do literally the first lesson of Peter Han's dynamic sketching, rinse and repeat

>> No.4103557
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4103557

Redraw your OP picture without lifting the pen once.

>> No.4103558

>>4103553
>tracing a previous layer
I use the same layer as the initial sketch, maybe what helped me was because I forced myself to use that same layer I try to be as clean and simple as possible for the quicksketch and then erase and redraw over the gesture erasing each line and working my way from the inside out.

>> No.4103564

>>4103553
Think about where your lines are going before putting them down instead of drawing and then thinking.

>> No.4103566

>>4103555
i can only find dynamic bible by him is it the same?

>> No.4103573

>>4103539
my question kinda related, is tracing a good training exercise to achieve those muscle memory gains to give me a tighter grip? I don't want to rip-off shit and claim as my own, I just want make my wrist stop trembling like the one from a 80's parkinson patient

>> No.4103578

>>4103539
Chicken scratching is bad is a retarded meme I have only ever seen on /ic/ even the best artist chicken scratch that’s what the lineart layer and rendering is for cleaning up. Like in life, you don’t have to get it right the first try.

>> No.4103583

>>4103539
drawabox + ctrl paint

>> No.4103586

>>4103539
How did you get instant replies OP?

>> No.4103587

>>4103586
Because OP posted his work instead of finding another image to hide behind with like most of you faggots do.

>> No.4103605

Well for me I would chicken scratch for the longest time untill i started drawing with charcoals/pastels and softer leads. You just have to make longer strokes using these so you'll naturally start to use your wrist and shoulder in sweeping motions.

>> No.4103899

>>4103539
I see a lot of good anime artists chicken scratch and make it look good
just do what you do and practice

>> No.4103917

>>4103539
>>stopitgetsomehelpmichaeljordan.gif

>> No.4103948

>>4103578
you don't know what chicken scratching is. Its not another word for sketching

>> No.4103970

>>4103573
you want to be loose, not tight. tight means sore hand after so long. i dont think tracing will achieve what youre thinking. get a large sheet of paper and draw lines end to end, curves, and circles.

>> No.4104015

>>4103566
its the same one. practice the section at the very beginning where he tells you to draw lines and circles for line confidence.

>> No.4104101

>>4103539
Think of the chicken scratch layer as a test layer, then make a new layer and overlay it over the chickenscratch image and make long clean flowing lines over it.

>> No.4104126

I found this to help me with better lines, look where you want the line to go not following it, just like when you're turning on a bicycle you'll have a much smoother and faster carve of the turn if you look where you want to end up

>> No.4104129

>>4103578
>chicken scratch is good
ok retard

>> No.4104137
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4104137

Chickenscratching just stops making any sense when you stop thinking in terms of 2d lines and contours and start your figure out or ovoids and bean shaped forms .

You should start seeing the 3d forms behind the lines.

>> No.4104423

>>4103539
Chicken scratching being wrong is a myth. what matters most is the final product, not how you achieve it.
Feeling out a drawing with shorter lines is fine, here's yoh yoshinari doing it : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-0aucD8By0

>> No.4104444
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4104444

>>4104423
sketching isn't chicken scratching you stupid faggot. Chicken scratching only happens when you're a beg who barely knows how to use a pencil to draw.

>> No.4104449

>>4104423
>the final product, not how you achieve it.

When you are scratching you will need to waste time to clean it up or to outline it again to accomplish any decent line.

Wasted time = less final products and slower practice.

You're shooting yourself in a foot in a long run.

>> No.4104476

>>4104444
>>4104449
These guys are either 100% new or been drawing /beg/ shit for years and too stupid to pick up the basics
guaranteed.

>> No.4104601

>>4103539
Straight and clean lines come from confidence in your ability so I guess more practice and just "not" doing it

>> No.4106499

>>4103539
Don't hold your pencil like you're going to write, because a writing grip is meant for short lines (like in letters).
Bring the whole pencil under your hand and grasp it firmly. Draw with your elbow and shoulder, that'll give you the capacity to make longer lines.

>> No.4106503

>>4103539
If you can stop being such a coke addict you wouldn't have to chciken scratch op

>> No.4106508

>>4104444
I sont know anon I really hate those excessive lines just sticking out of the character why cant he just it cleanly?