Animation Thread

[Anonymous No.4101720]

>Animation Thread Discord

https://discord.gg/Ju9NuWN

>51 exercises to try
http://www.animatorisland.com/51-great-animation-exercises-to-master/

>Books basic program tutorials, etc.
https://mega.co.nz/#F!3p8CwQZD!DR2mC-kw0TyQQ8Uw3T6JYg
https://mega.co.nz/#!TdclgBqS!QWLS9f3ogerhJDfxCYPv_yFKRR11tP_IC0eaA4sEwug

>Reference
http://www.referencereference.com/
https://vimeo.com/groups/aniref
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRvspTjApofA2Yg3i10gTdQ
http://www.rhinohouse.com/

>Anime .gif/.webm repository
https://sakugabooru.com/post

>Play YT videos frame-by-frame
http://rowvid.com/
or just pause the video and use the , and . keys (This doesn't always work but worth a try)

[Anonymous No.4103163]

>tfw you open tvpaint after fighting with 3d rigs for months

[Anonymous No.4103346]

im animating tonight. if your not, you will never make it, if your read that youre actually not gonna make it, and also i fucked yer mom.

[Anonymous No.4103395]

>>4101720
What do you guys use to put together your animations?
I use a combination of ffmpeg + tupi2d and gimp.

[Anonymous No.4103770]

>>4103163
Relatable

[Anonymous No.4103879]

>>4103395
Just TVPaint, I even put my sounds in with TVPaint, export it as a gigantic .avi file and convert it to .mp4 with handbrake boom

[Anonymous No.4104047]

>>4103346
based shitposting crab

[Anonymous No.4104228]

Wide-angled shots are neat, but trying to make them look 3D/have perspective to them is a big ass challenge

[Anonymous No.4104567]

Tried doing a run for the first time, how does it look anons? Any tips?

[Anonymous No.4104699]

>>4104567
Looks like hes running backwards, revert it.

[Anonymous No.4104711]

>>4104567
LEL, how the fuck did you manage to make such a good backwards running cycle by accident?

[Anonymous No.4104857]

>>4104567
How the fuck did you export that gif backwards

[Anonymous No.4104935]

Are any of you guys working/have worked on a reanimate scene? Wanna share?

[Anonymous No.4105460]

>>4104699
>>4104711
>>4104857
What are you talking about. am I the only one that sees it running forwards? Maybe it's the thing when you look at something and it seems like it's going backwards but it's actually going forwards...?

[Anonymous No.4105504]

>>4101720
Hey guys. I am a comp sci major with a full schedule. But I wanted to take some free online courses for my true passion: animation. I checked Edx and Coursera and they don't seem to have anything useful. I have done stop motion animation in the past using Final Cut Pro. Super ghetto, I know. I asked professors and they said Adobe After Effects, but they think Flash is absolute trash. What do you suggest? Any courses or youtube playlists you recommend? I want to make art somewhat like this:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCp_G6J0m6g
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGZSq19ct4U
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs7WaL44_Iw
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmL72sgVdAQ
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY4Epc2XSGc
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldJ1A7Wde0U
My production output is way too slow and so I want to mix in some more computer stuff. All thoughts welcome. Cheers.

[Anonymous No.4105532]

>>4104228
thats a cool shot but the thing coming out of the black sphere looks pretty lame, I expected something like femto from berserk

[Anonymous No.4105588]

>>4105532
Reality can be often disappointing.

[Anonymous No.4105593]

>>4105504
Those aren't so much good animation as it's good writing, which is essential. Look into toonboom harmony (you can torrent it).

[Anonymous No.4105606]

>>4101720
Did anyone try animating in CSP Pro? What can you really do within frame limitation?

[Anonymous No.4105611]

>>4105593
>those
>good writing

>>4105606
Extremely simple loops. If you want to do anything substantial you'll need more than 8 frames or whatever it is.

[Anonymous No.4105904]

>>4105460
lol it looks like they're running backwards to me as well

[Anonymous No.4106403]

>>4101720
https://www.bloopanimation.com/all-access/

https://gumroad.com/l/Introto2DComplete

Does anyone have either of these?

[Anonymous No.4106478]

>>4104567
>>4105460
I see your problem.
You used slow-ins when your figure moves his legs forward and omitted frames when taking impulse, which should be the other way around.
Fortunately, you can fix this by just reversing the sequence.

[Anonymous No.4106558]

I know none of them will be easy but...is 2d or 3d easier? It's probably 3d, right?
What about cell-shading?

Can I start all of this with Blender?

[Anonymous No.4106699]

>>4106478
Now it looks like he's running backwards!!!

[Anonymous No.4106710]

>>4106699
ur dyslexic

[Anonymous No.4106757]

>>4106478
Now it looks right

[Anonymous No.4106784]

>>4106558
Blender added a bunch of 2d animation tools (grease pencil) in the new 2.8 release and it looks pretty cool. I haven't used it myself, but I've seen a few tutorial videos.

I'm considering using blender for 2d and 3d animation since I have some experience with it for 3d modelling.

[Anonymous No.4106803]

>>4105593
Cheers!
Okay, I will torrent it and start makin' shit. I looked around and the only online courses are through Udemy. May get those, but YouTube seems just as good... how'd you guys learn? Self taught?
>https://onlinecoursebay.com/learn-toon-boom-harmony-essentials-simple-turnaround-rigs-udemy-free-download/
>https://onlinecoursebay.com/how-to-animate-to-music-using-toon-boom-harmony-udemy-free-download/
>https://onlinecoursebay.com/toon-boom-studio-tutorial-cartoon-animation-made-simple-udemy-free-download/
>https://onlinecoursebay.com/2d-animation-in-toon-boom-harmony-creating-a-short-vol-3-udemy-free-download/
>https://onlinecoursebay.com/create-a-simple-cut-out-2d-animation-in-toon-boom-harmony-udemy-free-download/
>https://onlinecoursebay.com/save-time-in-character-animation-for-after-effects-udemy-free-download/
>https://onlinecoursebay.com/animation-foundations-udemy-free-download/
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mWbPfqTlJs

Any other programs you suggest? Should I look into After Effects or anything? Should I look into Blender like these anons? >>4106558 >>4106784

Sorry to be obnoxious with so many questions. I've already tried doing things my own way and taught myself. And in retrospect, I should have started with more structure, and learned a program meant for animation. So before I dedicate hundreds of hours, I want to make sure I choose correctly.

[Anonymous No.4106990]

>>4105460
Just look at particles near his feet, they're going forward

[Anonymous No.4107211]

>>4106803
Damn it. Poor fag here. Searched everywhere and finally found a Mac version. But now it won't activate. Pic related. I followed the steps to a T. But no dice. Anyone got a link to a mac version? Also, I found the storyboard toon boom, but it seems like no1 uses it anyways.

[Anonymous No.4107297]

>>4107211
Gonna' just use Studio v6 for now. Will post in here if I find a working Harmony version for Mac.
>https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6364634/Toon_Boom_Studio_v_6.0_[K]racked

[Anonymous No.4107418]

>>4105460
Mirror flip it and then look at it

[Anonymous No.4107778]

>>4106699
I think there is literally no hope for you in animation

[Anonymous No.4107868]

>>4107211
harmony 12 for mac is on cgp

[Anonymous No.4107874]

>>4106558
3d is much easier. Easiest of all is probably 2d rigged puppet style. It has all the ease of consistency that 3d has but you only need to deal with a 2d plane. downside is everything looks stiff and soulless

[Anonymous No.4107891]

>>4106558
2d because it's leagues more efficient for quickly animating.

[Anonymous No.4107991]

I have CSP pro, and I want to start learning animation, but the limited frames thing makes me reluctant to start with CSP,
Is toonboom the next best thing for a similar price point?

[Anonymous No.4108005]

>>4107991
Bump
Actually curious what really can you squeeze out from pro version in terms of animation.

[Anonymous No.4108106]

>>4107874
What's good for animating 2 rigged? Going to look for myself but if anyone have any recs (even lower quality free software just to try)

>>4107891
Yeah I get the idea. That being said, it's probably more true when you're good at fundies to begin with. Which is not my case I won't even lie. Not that I'm no trying anymore but I want to have fun with animation.

[Anonymous No.4108115]

>>4108106
use goanimate

[Anonymous No.4108379]

>>4107868
That's the one I got and set up. The activation key didn't work... I used a hex editor, used terminal to open the activationwizard.app and double checked it. Updated my mac. Etc. But to no avail. I kept getting the error you see here >>4107211

Anyways, thanks for the suggestion. I hadn't heard about CGP.
>https://www.cgpeers.com/index.php
I'm part of myanonamouse but they have no toon boom stuff. Besides, I always have trouble keeping a good ratio with those private trackers, cuz I get stuff no1 else wants to leech so I can't seed to anyone.

[Anonymous No.4108995]

Did some stopmotion a while ago.
Next time I'll try to avoid having any floating assets for the model (eg; the ears) because it's just too hard to keep their position consistent, either that or I could just attach them to the character rig with some green paper and then edit it out in post-production.

[Anonymous No.4109025]

Frame by frame fxes anyone?

[Anonymous No.4109039]

>>4109025
Pretty nice. I'd delete that pause when the skull is fully formed, it messes up the timing and the viewer will probably still be able to tell it's a skull.

Also the word is just "fx" because it's short for "effects".

[Anonymous No.4109042]

>>4108995
Congrats, this is awesome as hell
Blog?

[Anonymous No.4109057]

>>4108995
Really nice. I love the way you've abstracted the cutting up of the cloth.

>>4109025
The timing at the start is a bit off. I agree with >>4109039 that the freeze frame doesn't help - if you want to hold on the skull, you could at least have it still moving upwards. I also think you could do with another frame or two of the skull appearing, otherwise the start of the animation is too jerky.The smoke dissipating looks really nice, though!

[Anonymous No.4109083]

>>4108995
That's so adorable.

[Anonymous No.4109105]

>>4109042
Hey thanks! I'm glad you liked it! I had a lot more fun making it than I thought I would.
I'm most active on Instagram.
https://www.instagram.com/yarharcannon/

[Anonymous No.4109229]

>>4103395
>ffmpeg
what

[Anonymous No.4110030]

I'm working on my shaqtoon. Wish me luck

[Anonymous No.4110049]

Probably the greatest thing I've ever made
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9fdBIDzvaY

[Anonymous No.4110056]

>>4108995

Whoa. I literally thought this was some old animation from the 70s or early 80s. Nicely done.

[Anonymous No.4110061]

>>4109025

You're clearly too good for this place.

[Anonymous No.4110103]

>>4110049
I though he was hiding his nipples under the blanket but crying is also a funny ending.

[Anonymous No.4110111]

>>4110103
Shit that would have been great

[Anonymous No.4110328]

Anyone know if there's a faster way to adjust the timing of your frames on CSP?
In Toon Boom it's as simple as selecting your frames and right-clicking but in CSP I've just been having to mass-select bit by bit until everything's adjusted evenly on the timeline

[Anonymous No.4110349]

>>4110049
oh shit, you're that guy who did the Zig Solar film. I still chuckle at that cat scene. good work man!
you have a great sense for comedic timing.

[Anonymous No.4110399]

Going to clean up.

[Anonymous No.4110404]

>>4110349
Thanks anon, didnt think anyone would remember that. This was just a short little thing I wanted to do while working on another project since I'm trying to post more regularly.

[Anonymous No.4110408]

>>4110399
>lipstick
Yikes!

[Anonymous No.4110411]

>>4108995
This is pretty

[Anonymous No.4110442]

>>4110399
The bell is drastically changing size.

[Anonymous No.4110450]

>>4110408
Oh hey plague

[Anonymous No.4110556]

>>4109057
>>4109039
Agree, thanks guys

[Anonymous No.4110599]

>>4110399

A bucnh of little things are off here and unfortunately they add up to a jerky animation:

1. Problems with one of the ears - see pic related. In one of the frames it completely changes angle and we don't see the inner ear for a single frame, which looks very jarring in motion. Later on in the animation, the same ear seems to jump from the back of the head to just behind the fringe (and the tuft of fur appears at the base of the ear). The ear also changes position vertically a lot, seeming to dip downards in the middle of the animation.

2. The eyebrow position is inconsistent, especially towards the end of the animation, where they start to climb into the hairline.

3. I don't quite get what's happening with the tongue. Is she in the middle of licking her lips (tongue moving to our right) as the animation starts? As she jerks to the right, I'd expect the tongue to drag, but instead the tongue keeps moving right as well.

4. Her locks of hair, especially on the fringe, are changing a lot each frame.

>>4110442
This. And the rotation of the little ring holding the bell is off as well. I'd simplify that whole thing, wouldn't redraw if frame by frame since.

All of this stuff makes the animation busy and inconsistent. You're almost there, though.

[Anonymous No.4110644]

>>4104567
>>4104699
>>4104711
>>4104857
>>4104935
>>4105460
>>4105904
>>4106478


Lol. This was awesome.

[Anonymous No.4110750]

>>4110328
Anyone?

[Anonymous No.4110929]

>>4104935
Worked on the Shrek remake, I did the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-tB3W7lScI

[Anonymous No.4110937]

>>4110929
Ayy Extellus. I'm waiting for more atmospheric kino

[Anonymous No.4110949]

>>4110937
Working on something with more action atm but gonna be back on the atmospheric stuff after I finish it, I just gotta PROVE it to myself I can animate action-y movement

[Anonymous No.4110972]

>>4110399
the individual drawings are good, but the animation is screwy like you just went straight ahead instead of planning keys -> timing -> breakdowns -> inbetweens

[Anonymous No.4110974]

>>4110949
Can't wait, the Nites series is great too. I'm sure it'll look good no matter what you do.

[Anonymous No.4111049]

>>4104567
He looks like he's easing into leg out and cutting into leg back. Reverse this.
Also put more weight into the rest of the body.

[Anonymous No.4111066]

>>4110399
Adding frames, starting at the beginning. Revised the motion of the tongue.

[Anonymous No.4111076]

>>4111066
way too much time at the beginning with her just sitting still and waggling her tongue around, looks dumb and unnatural

[Anonymous No.4111083]

>>4111066
So, are you just posting to flex? People here have been telling you the same issues since it was rough.

The drawings are nice, but the animation is no good.

[Anonymous No.4111135]

>>4110974
thanks anon, means a lot

[Anonymous No.4111152]

>>4111049
>put more weight into the rest of the body

not everything needs weight, I'm guessing the anon was going for a snappy run feel and other than it being in reverse it looks fine to me

[Anonymous No.4111168]

Fixed the ears at the beginning.

[Anonymous No.4111172]

>>4111083
>The drawings are nice
Arguable, she looks like a 90s Western cartoon wearing a 2000s anime wig.

[Anonymous No.4111176]

>>4111168
it kinda feels like shes doing the left thing in gif related but instead she should be doing the right thing so I'd say the spacing is a bit off

[Anonymous No.4111626]

>>4111176
i need to see frame by frame to understand it.

[Anonymous No.4111729]

[Anonymous No.4111734]

>>4111729
Add more frames at the top, it's like it's forcing itself back down toward the ground. Also stretch typically looks better when the object stays the same shape until the last couple frames at the end of the arc, rather than morphing into it over the whole thing. Otherwise not bad.

[Anonymous No.4111771]

>>4111066
shitty edit but the timing was frustrating me.

[Anonymous No.4111773]

Got the keyframes in. Working on the breakdowns. Any more key poses needed to sell the teep's force?

[Anonymous No.4111774]

>>4111771
my b

[Anonymous No.4111779]

>>4111773
its late, so i dont know if i just wasted my time but u can sell force with some timing adjustments

[Anonymous No.4111783]

>>4111779
Like so?

[Anonymous No.4111784]

>>4111783
hell yeah

[Anonymous No.4111785]

>>4111783
stretchy box

[Anonymous No.4111803]

>>4108995
10/10

[Anonymous No.4111810]

>>4106403
#request HTTP: Learn your browser's language
https://gumroad.com/l/http-zine

https://gumroad.com/l/all-the-zine

[Anonymous No.4111815]

Fun with boxes

[Anonymous No.4111821]

>>4111734

[Anonymous No.4111833]

>>4111821
Yeah much better, keep it up.

[Anonymous No.4111892]

>>4101720
How do you turn milliseconds into frames?
Let's say I'm trying to work on a 12 fps animation.
I measure the entire thing at 1.87 seconds, so 1 second = 12 frames, but how do I convert the milliseconds into frames?

[Anonymous No.4112085]

>>4111892
OK this is just math:
if 1 second is 12 frames
.87 of a second is 7 frames (assuming you're rounding)
So 19 frames would be 1.87 seconds of dialogue

[Anonymous No.4113768]

>>4109025
Tried to improve timing

[Anonymous No.4113803]

>>4108995
Very cool anon

[Anonymous No.4113865]

>>4113768
good

[Anonymous No.4113873]

>>4113768
Much better, great job!

[Anonymous No.4113985]

>>4112085
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.4114126]

>>4113768
yeah that's it, pro

[Anonymous No.4114162]

>>4101720
Is anybody animating in Photoshop?

Anyone's got Animator's Toolbar Pro for mac?

[Anonymous No.4114297]

>>4114162
Don't animate in Photoshop, get TVPaint or ToonBoom or anything else

[Anonymous No.4114446]

first try ever at animating something. Just drew 13 pictures and combined them. already feel like this is impossible

[Anonymous No.4114477]

>>4114446
Im not sure what you are trying to animate but i really like your drawings.
Go to the op and do some animation exercises to get the hand of it with some more simple things.

[Anonymous No.4114483]

>>4114477
any recommendations for free software? I downloaded Pencil2d

[Anonymous No.4114490]

>>4114483
Tupi2D

[Anonymous No.4114499]

>>4114483
TV Paint

[Anonymous No.4114672]

>>4101720

[Anonymous No.4114914]

I don't know if this qualifies as animation per se, but I was trying to figure out a way to have after effects generate looping flame without having to hand-animate it.

[Anonymous No.4115290]

>>4114914
Cool that you figured something out, but it's not really flame-like. Flames are much faster and it's wiggling too much for something so small.

[Anonymous No.4115310]

>>4114914
You might as well go full simulation in 3d or stylized fire like gumball, this wobbly candle wick just looks weird.

[Anonymous No.4115330]

>>4113768
you got a gallery blog or something anon?

[Anonymous No.4115354]

>>4101720
Tried something a little different, it turned out kinda janky

[Anonymous No.4115376]

>>4115354
I like the little triforce in the middle

[Anonymous No.4116266]

This is what im working on right now, the hair/snakes and clothing look kinda wonky because they are moving at the same time as the body, i gotta try this overlaping motion thing.
I guess its a good base to work with.

[Anonymous No.4116272]

>>4116266
i forgot to ask about how should i go about doing it

[Anonymous No.4116374]

>>4105606
im stuck with Pro because I bought it right before CSP went on sale :(. here's my first animation with it though

[Anonymous No.4116389]

>>4116374
i recognize that exact scene. also studied it

[Anonymous No.4117144]

>>4114914
it has it's charm

[Anonymous No.4117172]

>>4116374
what tutorials are you using? I just got Ex during the sale, but I've never done animation before

[Anonymous No.4117180]

>>4117172
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQZ0NcoMpUg

this guy's series of vids helped a lot. i used to use flash a long time ago so i wasnt used to clip's layout. i think im starting to like it more now

[Anonymous No.4117967]

crits so far? i know the camera movement is confusing, but when i add the bg it'll probably make sense

>>4114162
i animate with photoshop, its pretty bad. planning to switch soon

[Anonymous No.4117969]

crits so far? i know the camera movement is confusing, but when i add the bg it'll probably make sense

>>4114162
i animate with photoshop, its pretty bad. planning to switch soon

[Anonymous No.4118351]

>>4117969
need weight

[Anonymous No.4118433]

>>4117969
both the webster flip and softball throw need more indication of momentum

[Anonymous No.4118454]

>>4117969
you don't need to redraw every detail in every frame, you've got lines and landmarks bouncing every which way. drawing each frame can obviously be done, but pay more attention to where your lines are going as you flip through the frames. look at his crotch randomly jump around, his sleeves change size, the hand doesn't just arch before the swing, it jitters about, same with all the folds. Try to pay attention to every landmark of the drawing and how it's changing when you flip through the frames, particularly having everything follow it's own arc in a movement, and erasing and re-drawing any jitter you find that could have slipped through

[Anonymous No.4118527]

A wagging finger warmup thing.

[Anonymous No.4118568]

>>4118527
Oops.

[Anonymous No.4118656]

>>4118351
>>4118433
got it thanks bros
>>4118454
aight thanks for the crit. i’ll try my best to fix it and pay more attention instead of adding random lines everywhere. ill post updates later

[Anonymous No.4118923]

>>4101720

[Anonymous No.4118941]

>>4110030
I hope you're doing it for fun and not actually submitting it.

[Anonymous No.4118942]

>>4118923

[Anonymous No.4118943]

>>4118942

[Anonymous No.4118944]

I want to animate big ol anime flourishes for a thing
Would animating on 2s or 3s be more faithful?

[Anonymous No.4118946]

>>4111626
Not him but example 1 stutters, too many frames close together during the middle of the motion, while example 2 has a more fluid motion with a nice ease in and out.

[Anonymous No.4118955]

>>4117969
The timing is a bit flat, there is no sense of speed gain and loss, once he reaches top speed he maintains it until the end. The ending is a bit off as well, his momentum just stops when he throws, you need more overshooting actions to sell the weight he is putting behind the throw. Personally I'd argue that there is a lot of unnecessary detail for so early in the project, but I suppose that comes down to preference.

[Anonymous No.4118958]

>>4118944
A quick google search shows that main objects are usually animated between 8-12 fps while background objects are animated at 6-8. I don't watch a lot of anime, but from what I've seen they fluctuate depending on the series and situation, using a combination would probably be your best bet imo.

[Anonymous No.4119652]

>>4118941
>be the only one contributor
>win by default
Later virgins

[Combine them/Reference/Your st(...) No.4119659]

>>4110030
Good luck with that anon, just keep in mind when Shaq says he's gonna make you famous he's not making you famous to people who love animation, he's mostly making you famous to people who love Shaq

[Anonymous No.4119669]

am i on the right track? not too sure about how to add weight, when i tried squash and stretch it looked wonky. will fix jitters later

>>4118955
ok im trying to exaggerate the effects of the momentum. yeah im used to illustration so i always give in to adding details, as i get better at animation hopefully ill drop that habit

[Anonymous No.4119674]

>>4111774
This is a lot better anon, keep going!

[Anonymous No.4119747]

>>4119652
Still not worth the amount of time you'd have to put in to win

[Anonymous No.4119750]

>>4119669
I'm not even much of an artist and I still have this issue, even though I know it's a waste of time, you end up getting attached to what you've made regardless of the quality of the animation and don't want to scrap it, it's something better to learn sooner than later. A bit of anticipation goes a long was as well, for this example I'd suggest having him kick his right foot forward slightly before starting the spin, this gives the viewer chance to understand the motion that is about to take place, and also just looks a lot more realistic, you don't kick from a standing motion, you swing your leg back then forwards, It's shaping up well, you just need to get used to the animation workflow is all.

[Zachfag No.4119824]

Went back and redid the roughs of this, paid closer attention to the shapes of the guy's body, and yeah it's leagues better than my last version. Gotta work on the lower torso tho

[Anonymous No.4119838]

>>4114483
Opentoonz aka the Futurama/Ghibli software.

[Anonymous No.4120413]

>>4119838
it's an outdated software with a horrible interface. ghibli only used the software for light compositing / line clean-up, they never animated in that software

[Anonymous No.4120444]

>>4119838
would love to see some timelapses of someone working in opentoonz
drawing vectors is slow as hell, but maybe raster roughs -> vector cleanup? seems powerful but awkward

[Anonymous No.4120879]

>>4119750
awesome suggestion, definitely gonna add that in. I wish you well with your art man, and thank you for taking time out of your day to give me advice

[Anonymous No.4121399]

Hey guys.

I'll begin working out the key frames of a new animation soon. The scene is the commissioner's character lounging around an ornate balcony inviting the viewer to join her.

However, there are still some things I need to work out such as pose and creating an effective looping animation. One idea is to have her circling a wine glass, but that doesn't fit.

What would you suggest?

[Anonymous No.4121543]

First animation attempt in years. Howd i do?

[Anonymous No.4121545]

Also

[Anonymous No.4121647]

>>4120879
No problem man, this is like the first time I've come to this board, I didn't realise animation was a topic discussed here, I'll probably end up being around.

[Anonymous No.4121648]

>>4121543
looking good if a little basic. The key poses are there and the motion is clear with minimal jittering (though in the second to last frame her bust moves slightly to the right as if she's turning for a single frame which is a bit off). The frames are evenly spaced meaning the motion looks as if it maintains a constant speed for the entire duration which isn't very realistic, I'd suggest adding some ease at the start and end, or at the very least some sort of variation. I can see that it's still in the early stages so I won't say too much, but keep at it, it's looking nice.

[Anonymous No.4121655]

Does anyone here have an idea where i can find a newer TVpaint crack for mac?

[Anonymous No.4121662]

>>4111783
>>are you a pro?
>>what software?

[Anonymous No.4121699]

>>4121648
Ty. Good to know.

[Anonymous No.4124217]

After a two week hiatus, ready to get this started.

[Anonymous No.4124237]

>>4101720

Made my first animation this week in between shifts. Figured a lazy head turn was ok. What should I work on next to improve?

[Anonymous No.4124263]

>>4124217
You mean you're going to ignore everyone, make blog posts and make a jittery pile of shit?

Have fun.

[Anonymous No.4124289]

>>4124263
Unlike a certain couple of people from /alt, the anons here in this thread have provided excellent feedback.

Furthermore, the folks I interact with on Discord everyday would completely disagree with all three points. And have provided much better, and very detailed, critiques.

[Anonymous No.4124291]

>>4124289
One more thing, which is very important: to the anon who provided that edited gif to show me the timing errors? I owe you a debt of gratitude. Thank you.

[Combine them/Reference/Your st(...) No.4124326]

>>4124237
A not so lazy head turn

[Combine them/Reference/Your st(...) No.4124343]

>>4124217
The head turn is better on this one but the hair lacks weight, it feels like the bottom hair curls snap into the next position instead of getting there slowly with follow-through action

[Anonymous No.4124471]

This may be a stupid question, but: what program do you use for 2D animation? Is there an industry standard?

[Anonymous No.4124480]

>>4124471
Toonboom for cut out tween heavy stuff. Tv paint for more of a trad. style

[Anonymous No.4124492]

>>4124263
who shoved salt up your fucking butt hole? jfc lol

[Anonymous No.4124754]

progress for my kyoani tribute

[Zachfag No.4124772]

>>4124754
Not entirely related but out of curiosity, don't most studios in Japan (or at least ones that primarily produce anime) start with the animation of a show's episode then the sound? Or is it often the other way around traditionally?

[Anonymous No.4124787]

>>4124772
from what I've seen, I think they record a rough over an edit of the storyboard/layout, and then so a final recording when most of the animation is done. not sure though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LgHOUTZ8Gc

skip to 49:00. on the screen, some of the animation is still incomplete

[Anonymous No.4124806]

>>4124217
It's looking good at the moment, though the flickering makes it pretty hard to really understand the quality of motion.

[Anonymous No.4124810]

Would you ever consider animating like this? If you have what was it like?

https://youtu.be/xMsyOowMaEY

https://youtu.be/5EBdEoZUH7o

[Anonymous No.4125405]

[Anonymous No.4125412]

A few touch ups with the face and eyes.

[Anonymous No.4125710]

More clean up in preparation to draw the hair.

[Anonymous No.4125738]

>>4125710
>>4125412
Dont you see how line on the jaw jumps each frame in length

[Anonymous No.4126025]

FUUUUUUCK I HATE CLEANUP

[Anonymous No.4126196]

>>4124217
didnt you post this months ago or an i going mad

[Anonymous No.4126266]

>>4114914
i think you could change the warp modifiers and add some glow + more layers

[Anonymous No.4126309]

>>4126025
clean up is cathartic

[Anonymous No.4126318]

>>4126025
i agree
>>4126309
i disagree

cleanup is tedious af

[Anonymous No.4126373]

>>4124263
I can't imagine being this autistic cunt for a second. Unironically dilate

[Anonymous No.4127142]

>>4121545
Best submission of this thread.

[Anonymous No.4127147]

>>4126266
Nice. This looks much better

[Anonymous No.4127323]

Where do you guys go to find good animation work from smaller, less heard of animators? tumblr, deviantart and Twitter only push the popular ones

[Anonymous No.4128091]

>>4127323
https://www.pixiv.net/search.php?s_mode=s_tag_full&word=%E3%81%86%E3%81%94%E3%82%A4%E3%83%A9
http://nijie.info/search.php?word=GIF%E3%82%A2%E3%83%8B%E3%83%A1

[Anonymous No.4128103]

>>4121545
based

[Anonymous No.4128227]

>>4124217
you would learn better if you did more things instead of one perfect thing.

[Anonymous No.4129169]

[Anonymous No.4130944]

Working out the keyframes. Going to adjust the timing tomorrow.

How do I use the camera function in CSP Ex?

[Anonymous No.4130989]

>>4130944
https://tips.clip-studio.com/en-us/articles/1383
CSP is very well documented

[Anonymous No.4131139]

>>4130989
Thank you, anon.

I set it to render with the 2D camera, yet the gif does not show the camera's keyframe changes.

Any reasons why this could be the case?

[Anonymous No.4131344]

>>4131139
Did you drag your animation folder into your camera folder?

[Anonymous No.4131900]

>>4131344
No. Both folders remain separate.

Neither the [Show field guides] nor the [Show the camera's field of view] options yield results. I honestly have no idea what is going on.

[Anonymous No.4132026]

https://youtu.be/SUd06k7X1aM

this is the first step. what do you guys think so far?

[Anonymous No.4132088]

>>4131900
Drag your animation folder into the camera folder

[Anonymous No.4132098]

>>4132026
I don't even know what the hell that's supposed to be. A mouth?

[Anonymous No.4132113]

>>4132098
Sorry if it’s unclear at this stage, it’s going to be this guy once I’m done.

[Anonymous No.4132114]

>>4132113

[Anonymous No.4132118]

>>4132114

[Anonymous No.4132204]

>>4132113
>>4132114
>>4132118
Oh. You're going for something dramatic with the character being still and singing? I guess what you have looks good so far. You seem like a pretty decent animator, you probably have this more figured out than I originally thought you did.

[Anonymous No.4132299]

Anyone has this course?
https://motiondesign.school/products/hand-drawn-fx-in-toon-boom

[Anonymous No.4133453]

Update. Cleared the next three days to work on it.

[Anonymous No.4133465]

>>4133453
Wow, that hair looks fucked. Will be interesting to see what the final product looks like regardless.

[Anonymous No.4133478]

>>4133453
this is bizarre, youre so out of your depth. i wont tell you to stop though im sure youre learning stuff from it and i admire your perseverance. but you should go back to basic exercises afterward

[Anonymous No.4133509]

>>4133453
face moves but the head doesnt. like she turns upwards, but the back of the head just floats

>>4133465
>>4133478
u guys r very obviously bitter n jealous. it looks good so far, very minimal errors

[Anonymous No.4133517]

>>4133509
My first time posting here actually. Everything looks good except for the hair. I think it'll be glaringly obvious once it's finished. That doesn't mean I think it's bad. Just an honest criticism.

[Anonymous No.4133557]

Touched up the right side. Going over cross contours and some form inconsistencies in a bit.

[Anonymous No.4133562]

>>4133509
telling someone something looks bad doesnt = bitter crab. the hair is fucked that anon isnt wrong

[Anonymous No.4133681]

>>4129169
try to think about the weight of the hammer. it feels like the hammer and the arm is the same entity

[Anonymous No.4133735]

>>4133557
looks better than most of the other shit in this thread.

[Anonymous No.4133753]

>>4133557
Im kinda retarded but, isnt that a little too much animation, i mean its fucking beautiful but i notice a new movement everytime it cycles

[Anonymous No.4134089]

>>4133557
The back of her hair doesn’t move in accordance with her face, it looks as if it’s its own entity separate from her head and it’s been yanked into suspension by some unknown force. other than that it looks great, keep it up.

[Anonymous No.4134789]

>>4134089
Fixed for the last few frames.

[Anonymous No.4134813]

>>4134789
The issue is that her hair bun stops rotating with her head towards the end while the rest of her head continues. The art is nice and the rest of the movements are looking good, but the hair is really throwing it off.

[Anonymous No.4134815]

>>4134789
>>4134813
It looks as if the hair is being held in place, it remains in the same place on screen while the rest of the head moves and rotates.

[Anonymous No.4135404]

So I'm debating on either getting Toon Boom Harmony or upgrading my current TVPaint to professional edition. Not sure which one to go for, Harmony seems to be the industry standard but I'm much more familiar with TVPaint.

What do?

[Anonymous No.4135741]

>page 4

[Anonymous No.4135759]

>>4135404
get tvpaint 11 and upload it to cgp so somebody can finally crack it

[Combine them/Reference/Your st(...) No.4135913]

>>4135759
This

Someone crack TVPaint 11 for the love of god please

[Anonymous No.4135921]

>>4135741
Nezukos head looks really stiff try to work on making it sort of one motion instead of just individual parts

[Anonymous No.4135939]

>>4135921
Don't worry I'm working on it, it's j-just a sketch haha

[Anonymous No.4135944]

>>4135939
it looks perfect. you going to clean it up?

[Anonymous No.4135993]

>>4135939
cute af

[Anonymous No.4136494]

>>4135944
Of course

[Anonymous No.4136603]

So what would be the best free program for 2D for someone who just thought about learning animation?

[Anonymous No.4136636]

>>4136603
All the cool guys start with Pivot

[Anonymous No.4136740]

>>4136603
Opentoonz was sued by studio ghibli

[Anonymous No.4136814]

>>4135939
That’s better just work on the head a bit more. Other than that really good I love it

[Anonymous No.4136973]

>>4108995
S O U L

[Anonymous No.4136994]

>>4136603
Pencil2D is pretty fun as a beginner program.

[Anonymous No.4137188]

>>4135913
tvp 11 is impossible to crack and the security makes it a pain to use for the people who bought it

[Anonymous No.4137874]

>>4136603
pirate flash

>>4137188
>impossible

[Anonymous No.4138140]

>>4111066
blog?

[Anonymous No.4138670]

>>4133753

Nah, I think the main problem is that it's a very detailed design which makes keeping track of everything hard. If you look at the eyes for instance, the irises bounce around like balls. The blink also happens too fast and late in the turn. She should be blinking just a little after the head begins to turn. It makes everything look disconnected and lacking in flow. . Having all the details doesn't help matters and distracts from the character's expression.

[Anonymous No.4138741]

Update

[Anonymous No.4139542]

Going through those 51 animation exercises

[Anonymous No.4139556]

Fucked up the last one's FPS

[Anonymous No.4139592]

>>4138741
Not bad, but have you considered redrawing the face for each frame it moves as opposed to just taking the one frame of it and changing its position? It makes it look a little stiff, but that's just a nitpick. Still good nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.4139876]

trying to get back into the groove of things by doing simple warmups and messing around with 24fps animation to shake things up, since I normally animate in twos

[Anonymous No.4140212]

>>4137188
Okay... can someone pirate the 64bit version of TVPaint 10 then? That would be acceptable too

[Anonymous No.4140219]

>>4136603

Blender redid its 2D animation tools and it looks like there's a lot of potential there. I don't know how steep the learning curve is for the new version of blender is though.

[Anonymous No.4140335]

>>4139592
I might redo the face, I just don't know what to put in there, she will blink in one loop I guess

[Anonymous No.4140892]

>>4138741
disagree with the other guy, the face looks good cleaned up

[Anonymous No.4141511]

>>4101720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RESx6k_pTEM&feature=youtu.be

Rate or hate please i want to improve

[Anonymous No.4141517]

>>4141511
/beg/ drawing skills but impressive storyboarding/choreography skills. maybe focus on improving those and you'll really have something going

[Anonymous No.4141551]

>>4133453
You see when her head tilts up her front bangs stay in the same place even tho you rotated her mouth eyes and nose makes it seems like she's growing hair during the animation bbut it looks great nonetheless

[Anonymous No.4141572]

>>4141517
Thanks anon most of it is still placeholder and in some parts i only let the keys in i know animation takes time but i really want to finish this one

[Anonymous No.4141647]

>>4103163
Did you purchase TVPaint or pirate it. Love TVPaint but it is expensive asf.

[Anonymous No.4141962]

>>4133453
Amazing, and why you're not working in the industry?

[Anonymous No.4141996]

Hey guys, do you think it's reasonable to storyboard a SFM video in 2D or should I just block the poses in SFM?

[Anonymous No.4141998]

>>4141996
Depends. If the models are already made and rigged, then you might as well get to blocking

If not, then storyboarding might be the better option to start with

[Anonymous No.4142138]

Roast me. Aside from the obvious shit like the lack of inbetweens in some scenes and the unfinished drawings. Is it clear what's happening and do the shots flow well? Is the motion convincing or is it lacking in punch?

[Anonymous No.4142390]

>>4142138
When his foot slams down, erase the horizon line that shows through the figure's leg, it's kinda jarring. Though, I do understand it is just the preliminary work, would make it flow just a smidgen smoother. As well as fleshing out some of the later scenes and keys, as at some points it was difficult to read what was what with the drawings.

[Anonymous No.4144340]

>page 9
So yeah it's done, I don't feel very well so I couldn't be bothered with redrawing her face

[Anonymous No.4144625]

>>4144340
pretty solid work anon, it turned out better than i thought it would

[Anonymous No.4144635]

>>4128091
Thanks for the links
Just those or have you got any other ways? Lurking these threads is good but I'm looking for more

[Anonymous No.4144637]

>>4144340
Pretty good animation, which software you used anon?

[Anonymous No.4144645]

>>4142138
The foot shouldn't be shaking the ground if the tiny guy is lifting it.

[Anonymous No.4144664]

>>4114446
thought you could draw my waifu without me noticing anon? think again

[Anonymous No.4144679]

>>4144637
Clip Studio Paint

[Anonymous No.4144680]

>>4114446
>>4144664
lol, rotofag exposed

[Animation Workshop? No.4145014]

I'm prolly gonna ask this again in the next thread but I've been very neurotic with animating, especially since I don't have time by my part time job and community college life. I know the links for tutorials, I know the basics of timing, I have richard williams' book. I just wanna see a list of animation workshops I can buy/torrent?

[Anonymous No.4145125]

>>4137188
I mean I haven't had too many issues with TVP 11 so far in terms of the security. It's a pretty cheap investment for animators who want a good traditional feel to their work.

[Anonymous No.4145140]

>anon asks for a good free animation software
>mfw no one ever says krita
feel like im the only bozo using this thing to animate

[Anonymous No.4145240]

[Anonymous No.4145414]

>>4142390

Thanks. I'm guessing most of the scenes in the latter half are hard to read?

>>4144645

True, I should probably tone it down.

>>4145140

I used it a lot before I bought CSP. All it needs is some tweening capabilities and I'd probably go back.

[Anonymous No.4145503]

>>4145140
i want to like it but it's so fucking clunky
if they ever get colorize mask working for animation i'll give it another shot

[Anonymous No.4145510]

>>4145240
This is awesome. Good job.

[Anonymous No.4145587]

>>4145240

I would make the arc less even. As it stands the dip and rise is equal and looks too mechanical. Not sure what is happening but I would probably make the dip take up 2/3s of the path.

[Anonymous No.4146701]

First ever attempt at a walk.

[Anonymous No.4147189]

>>4146701
Not too bad for a first attempt, a good thing to remember when animating is a walk is to keep the feet in place. In pic related the left foot glides forwards with each frame when it should stay in place. Once the foot makes contact with the ground, keep it in the same place on screen.

[Animation Workshop? No.4147882]

1st time using myself as reference (In pose and emotion) Anybody know how to make a character inhale and exhale competently? I wanna redo the first 78 seconds with him breathing

[Anonymous No.4148681]

>>4147882

you need an IQ of at least 85 to be an animator

[Anonymous No.4148684]

[Anonymous No.4149321]

[Animation Workshop? No.4149348]

>>4147882
>>4148681
K.

[Anonymous No.4149434]

>>4149348
Ignore that other guy.
It may be more helpful to record yourself inhaling and exhaling ( do an exaggerated pantomime). It seems you got the proper expression down. As for doing it competently, you might want to review the basic 12 principles and practice making shapes move consistently from frame to frame (I know it's a rough animation but the lines are all over the place). Tsumimasen, hope this helped goodluck.

[Anonymous No.4150065]

did a thing

[Anonymous No.4150950]

tried animating again

[Anonymous No.4151139]

>I don't really know if i post in the right thread.
>But i currently try to learn after effect now cause i've mastered photoshop.
>So i've decide to do "kind" of animation based on a real game introduction.

>Sorry in advance for the files but 4chan won't let me upload the webm version for an obscure reason, so i've upload here :

https://streamable.com/k7824

it's based on this

https://streamable.com/92s82

[Anonymous No.4151243]

What program do you guys animate in?

[Anonymous No.4151301]

>>4151243
tvpaint (pirated)
id use flash still if my only option werent a shit vector brush, its what i started with

[Anonymous No.4152519]

>>4150065
common anon, don´t reuse drawings by just slightly transforming them if you draw them manually with a tighter spacing it would improve a lot.

[Anonymous No.4152537]

>>4150065
Don't listen to >>4152519 . That was some tasteful image squashing. I would've of noticed it if this wasn't on a loop.

[Anonymous No.4152547]

[Anonymous No.4152803]

>>4152519
use transforms wherever you can get away with it, for subtle antic and overshoot
one of the advantages of digital

[Anonymous No.4152845]

gave animation another try

[Anonymous No.4153384]

>>4151139
anon that's also not how you use greentext. It's for quoting and right now you're quoting yourself

[Anonymous No.4153635]

>>4152845
i love this

[Anonymous No.4154290]

>>4106478
Now that he's coming at us... should we be worried?

[Anonymous No.4154970]

>>4144679
Is it worth to upgrade to EX as a beginner animator?

[Anonymous No.4155592]

>>4154970

Not that guy but isn't non-EX limited to 1 second only? I'd say yes but wait for the sale.

[Anonymous No.4155607]

>>4107211

try moho..or blender with grease pencil.

[Anonymous No.4156137]

>>4154970
I don't know, I've pirated it

[Anonymous No.4156227]

>>4119669
Your overshoot of his arms are nice, though I feel like you could push his line of action more. His heads a bit disjointed and floaty. Also go to your keyframes and look at your timing without your inbetweens. It feels off. Also look at references of people actually doing that move, the way you drew it looks impossible to do without breaking your legs.

[Anonymous No.4156316]

>>4133557
Is her face getting sucked up into her hair?

[Anonymous No.4156448]

>>4154970
Pirate it while you wait for sale, buy pro, then ex will be cheaper on another sale.
If you're into digital painting it's not worth it unless they fix their brush engine, which lags terribly when using big brushes.

[Anonymous No.4156449]

>>4155592
You get 24 frames to work with. how you want to use it, that's up to you. Mostly for simple gifs ig

>>4156448
I'll just wait til black friday I suppose

[Anonymous No.4156450]

>>4156449
Follow their FB/Twitter, they usually post when it goes on sale.

[Anonymous No.4157011]

>>4156448
those eyes are shifting too much

[Anonymous No.4158079]

>>4152547
watch the arcs of each joint and for the sizes of the limbs changing, there's a lot of rattling as things move

[Anonymous No.4158082]

>>4139556
the thumb grows considerably. also it's good to have more frames particularly as a movement comes to a stop instead of spacing out a couple of frames for a slow-out

[Anonymous No.4158467]

>>4124754
New to animating. What are the A's B's and C's for?

[Anonymous No.4158529]

>>4158110

new thread