Alternative Art/Stylization Thread

[Anonymous No.4089439]

Previous: >>4083817

>What is /ALT/?
>If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning then you've found the right general. This is /ic/s 1st and only merged hub where both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully, hence the double title. However, by community demand and long history, this is favorably an Anime general.
>>Rules & Guidelines
>(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others. (2) Please resize your images before posting. (3) Share your knowledge and (4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique. Most importantly I encourage you to keep discussion at a civil level, but you're more than welcome to share your opinions.
>>I came for anime. Why does the image OP say cartoons general?
>To distinguish from the anime study thread (janitor supported). Please post your studies there and personal work goes here.
>------
>>Community Resources
>Hitokaku Index
>>http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
>List of active livestreams
>>Use twitch #art
>>yoshikadu2011 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUx5dpO6d5gQ4KWNPc24CKw
>FellowBro's Book Collection
>>http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
>Tutorial & Reference Collection
>>http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
>Japanese Tutorials & Documentary
>>http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317 (0033)
>>http://iradukai.com/
>References
>>http://www.onairvideo.com/croquis-cafe-photos2.html
>>http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/eng/atarichan.html
>>http://senshistock.com/sketch/

[Anonymous No.4089448]

OP pic is so cool

[Anonymous No.4089469]

>>4089439
NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T MAKE A NEW THREAD YET THE OLD ONE IS STILL ON PAGE 2 AND WE HAVEN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO PAGE 10 YET.

[Anonymous No.4089479]

>>4089439
This is some good shit.

[Anonymous No.4089520]

woof woof allowed

[Anonymous No.4089532]

>this ass hurt after that call out

Never change.

[Anonymous No.4089615]

[Anonymous No.4089626]

"I TIRE OF THE CALDONIAN KINGDOM! BRASS BOTS SET FORTH AND REDUCE THEM TO RUBLE!"

[Anonymous No.4089692]

Update. Going to finish the rest of the current frames, then add additional ones in between each key pose.

[Anonymous No.4089702]

>>4089692
>that beginning where the hair covers the eye
Absolute sex. You have a twitter or something?

[Anonymous No.4089712]

>>4089692
If you do good shading abd coloring you can get some good bucks from shit like this.

[Anonymous No.4089722]

added green so it wouldn't be confused for the trans flag. I want to be clear this is a 100% not male, XX chromosome girl right here with 0 penis.

[Anonymous No.4089725]

>>4089692
Weird, this style feels kind of familiar. Did you struggle with hips and legs?

[Anonymous No.4089736]

>>4089439
What’s this dudes blog again

[Anonymous No.4089773]

https://youtu.be/8rKyNDupYn8

Working on an animation of a character of mine, thought I'd show the wip so far. I'm gonna add more frames at the end for an ease-in and do mouths/ref the guy he's holding up to his face later. Wish I didn't have a cold tho

[Anonymous No.4089780]

https://youtu.be/8rKyNDupYn8

Working on an animation of a character of mine, thought I'd show the wip so far. I'm gonna add more frames at the end for an ease-in and do mouths/ref the guy he's holding up to his face later. Wish I didn't have a cold tho so I could work on it more

[Anonymous No.4089838]

Sketch, will leave it like this, don't like it enough to try and push it more.

[Anonymous No.4089845]

>>4089838
Anon this is really comfy!

[Anonymous No.4089871]

>>4089702
Here you go.

https://twitter.com/WhiteBox_Studio

>>4089712
That's the plan.

>>4089725
Normally, no. Main thing is hands and the ways the torso bends and twists.

[Anonymous No.4089931]

>>4089615
You don’t know who I am but will message you later firez

[Anonymous No.4089994]

>>4089520
woof woof úwù

[Anonymous No.4090036]

>>4089931
That kind of sounded ominous but I will be looking forward to it anon

[Anonymous No.4090061]

>>4089838
I like it

[Anonymous No.4090099]

>>4089439

[Anonymous No.4090124]

And with the completion of this unimaginative, generic design, it is time to rewire my brain to try and move past cookie cutter designs. I think the reason I struggle with strong concept ideas is because I have so much fun with just the process that I start drawing before I even have a visualisation

[Anonymous No.4090157]

>>4090124
Blog?

[Anonymous No.4090170]

>>4090157
I’m flattered :) @beholdnika on Instagram

[Anonymous No.4090185]

>>4090124
simple designs don't have to feel generic. it's just a matter of what you do with them desu.
nona's svc designs are an extreme example of this
>https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?ms=1&page=3&tags=nona++svc_chaos+

[Anonymous No.4090192]

>>4090185
Those designs are gorgeous anon :0 thanks for sharing, I try to put shape design using less detail into my characters but imo they turn out bland rather than iconic like the designs you showed.

[Anonymous No.4090210]

not really sure about the colors on this one, idk if i made the dinosaur too dark

bg probably gonna get reworked too

>>4090099
nice forms and colors man

[Anonymous No.4090225]

>>4090210
Anon this is great!

[Anonymous No.4090241]

Was told it would be better to post my question here so I'm gonna ctrl v from /beg/
Does anything stand out as being wrong? I've been trying to understand the form of the tfl and medius as they transition into the asscheek. There are times when I think the ass should be visible but it doesn't look right, and sometimes I have trouble telling apart the ass from the illiotibial band cause I'm not sure exactly how far the latter protrudes/at what angles it should eclipse the ass.

[Anonymous No.4090242]

>>4090241
The forms are on point

[Anonymous No.4090245]

>>4090210
Primal is looking rad nice texture

[Anonymous No.4090257]

>>4089838
Cute, blog?

[Anonymous No.4090260]

[Anonymous No.4090262]

shitty phone pics because im too trash to do anything but pen and pencil art. trying to learn painting and environments right now, i have a lot of trouble with color... anyone with good materials to share would be greatly appreciated

[Anonymous No.4090266]

>>4090124
Nothing too mindblowing but I think this is a step in the right direction

[Anonymous No.4090270]

>>4090241
I can't answer your question but ... blog?

[Anonymous No.4090277]

>>4090270
I exclusively draw furshit so I'm not sure you'd still want it

[Anonymous No.4090334]

>>4089439
Taking a slight break from mech stuff with some loose sketching.

>>4090124
>>4090266
These are coming out great, anon, especially with the creature in the 2nd one

>>4090241
The way how you put emphasis on certain lines is eye catching, great job, anon.

[Anonymous No.4090336]

>>4090334
This is mega cozy

[Anonymous No.4090367]

>>4090262
Blog?

[Anonymous No.4090385]

>>4090124

I messed around with this cause it looks like it had potential. Just mess around with it more, don't even think about the end result. Like for intance, I picked this 'cause I liked how her shoulders look crystalline. So I took that idea and ran with it.

[Anonymous No.4090393]

>>4090170
>>4090385
Whoa, your style looks so different, but I really love it! Absolutely adorable!

[Anonymous No.4090396]

>>4090393

LOL I'm not the original artist of that pic. I just saw it and felt like giving that guy a bit of inspiration.

[Anonymous No.4090397]

*shoujos in your path*

[Anonymous No.4090401]

>>4090334
Comfy! I like it!

[Anonymous No.4090468]

Thinking about cel shading

[Anonymous No.4090523]

>>4090334
>creature
I’m really happy you think that anon, considering your stuff is an inspiration to me :] the one you posted looks so comfy
>>4090385
That looks really good anon, thank you!

[Anonymous No.4090543]

>>4090468
unff so cute

[Anonymous No.4090591]

[Anonymous No.4090595]

banana girl

[Anonymous No.4090605]

>>4090468
You're already doing it.

[Anonymous No.4090684]

[Anonymous No.4090697]

>>4090367
Is instagram acceptable here? Its the only place i post. @0.k.u

[Anonymous No.4090711]

[Anonymous No.4090718]

How do people perfect the craft of parody? How do you draw in someone else's style accurately? Zone comes to mind.

[Samefag No.4090765]

>>4090697
Do your parents know about this?

[Anonymous No.4090774]

>>4090468
Brekkist is that you?


lewd of her when

[Anonymous No.4090884]

cant wait for her to confuse and disappoint smashers

[Anonymous No.4090913]

>>4089722
>100% not male, XX chromosome girl right here with 0 penis.
based and sanepilled.
I can't look over the fact that her head is pretty big though. If you are going for a more realistic style then you need to think about that again.

[Anonymous No.4090917]

>>4090468
that's not a boy.
You can't just draw a girl and call it a boy,
That's a cool drawing btw, fag

[Anonymous No.4090920]

>>4090765
I have none :D

[Anonymous No.4090950]

>>4090917
all girls(boys) are valid

[Anonymous No.4090959]

>>4090950
It would be funny if he lick my penis while masturbating haha

[Anonymous No.4090995]

>>4089439
not mine, but a friend of mines drawing.
i think its really good but he rarely posts shit elsewhere
convince him to make more
(might upload more)

[Anonymous No.4091008]

>>4090959
brooo ....

[Anonymous No.4091015]

what's your major

[Anonymous No.4091021]

>>4090543
Danke, anon.

>>4090774
No, but that artist's works look really nice
Also
>Her
>Filename

>>4090917
Please forgive me anon. I just like boys with long hair and twinkish figures

>>4090959
Haha yeah, just as a joke though

[Anonymous No.4091024]

>>4090397
Cute!!!

[Anonymous No.4091052]

Nausicaa

[Anonymous No.4091059]

>>4091052
So much charm

[Anonymous No.4091061]

>>4091052
Blog?

[Anonymous No.4091104]

>>4090170
Cool stuff, looking forward to seeing more. Thanks for liking my shit too.

[Anonymous No.4091125]

>>4091104
That means a lot anon, I appreciate it.

[Anonymous No.4091134]

>>4091059
>>4091061
@malintfalch

[Anonymous No.4091209]

>>4089615
That's all kinds of fucked up firez

[Anonymous No.4091222]

>>4089615
Dont listen to>>4091209 you're still the best artist here. Only the hip seems to be off. Also, Don't like how she's an amputee but o well.

[Anonymous No.4091226]

Experimenting for thick outline look.

[Anonymous No.4091229]

>>4091226
back to beg with you!

[Anonymous No.4091234]

>>4091229
If you want me to take you seriously, I’d like you to show me a piece of cartooning that you won’t sperg out on.

[Anonymous No.4091235]

>>4091234
Better yet, why won't you tell them to post their work?

[Anonymous No.4091237]

>>4091234
you're symbol drawing the eye though. Come on.

[Anonymous No.4091251]

>>4091234
>>4091226
To provide what that poster isn't elaborating on, her pose is stiff, heads don't turn that far back (even if they're a doll, yes) and overall the silhouette of the pose is unclear.
Even if you're going for a "cartoon" style, you gotta follow the rules (and know what rules you're breaking)
If you can wait until I get home, I can redline it if you consent.

[Anonymous No.4091256]

>>4091251
I’m just confused on what he means by “symbol drawing” is all. Is he talking about the button?
And sure, you can correct it.

[Anonymous No.4091271]

>>4091134
How do I get as good as you?

[Anonymous No.4091278]

>>4091271
I sucked a LOT of dicks.

[Anonymous No.4091314]

>>4090697
I prefer instagram honestly but I couldn't find you. Unless your a black chick that just posts selfies.

>>4090995
I like the subject matter and it looks nice. Something feels off about the colouring and I'm not a fan of the style of the face.

Wouldn't mind seeing more of his stuff.

[Anonymous No.4091329]

>>4090995
I thin the style he's going for could be very strong if he brushed up on his fundies. This work would be really enhanced if he could feel the forms better.

[Anonymous No.4091330]

test

[Anonymous No.4091343]

>>4089626
You know what I love most about your work, Al? That you give lore to every single fucking thing you draw.

[Anonymous No.4091371]

test

[Anonymous No.4091374]

test

[Anonymous No.4091375]

Test

[Anonymous No.4091379]

>>4091271
yeah this>>4091278

[Anonymous No.4091390]

Test

[Anonymous No.4091392]

Test

[Anonymous No.4091426]

Test

[Anonymous No.4091451]

test

[Anonymous No.4091452]

Test

[Anonymous No.4091454]

a tranny, gotta be

[Anonymous No.4091468]

test

[Anonymous No.4091485]

Test

[Anonymous No.4091487]

>>4091485
it's over now anon

[Anonymous No.4091502]

...this is what happens when I try to draw a manly stylised face. Jesus Christ, anyone have any good references that I could study?

[Anonymous No.4091522]

Tried posting this yesterday while 4chan was shitting the bed but o well. Tried getting back into drawing after almost a week of being struck with a shitty cold with a dude of mine. Personally, I think the mouth seems a tad too generic. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4091537]

>>4091522
You are the hero I/c needs.

[Anonymous No.4091540]

>>4091522
>mouth seems a tad too generic
Not at all, at least I don’t remember seeing that mouth often. In fact I love how you made irregular looking.
I am kinda fucked up by the hair. As it is now, it kinda looks like dog ears. You need to consider the fact that much of his hair would be resting on his neck while in that pose, and also consider having a lock of hair coming out from under the hat.

[Anonymous No.4091542]

>>4091540
*Irregular looking teeth. It kinda compliments the outrageous look.

[Anonymous No.4091552]

>>4091256
Fucking hell, I’m a brainlet. You’re talking about the argyle and paisley, right? I adjusted the argyle last night, and I’m only posting this now because 4chan shit itself last night.

[Anonymous No.4091557]

>>4091522
Reminds me a lot of LAIKA's 2D animation tests, it's a nice style!

[Anonymous No.4091563]

>>4091502
look up third strike/king of fighters concept art

[Anonymous No.4091568]

>>4091502
Google heroic sculpture

[Anonymous No.4091572]

Hey guys, can someone explain to me what happened in the last thread?

[Anonymous No.4091576]

>>4091572
We got some art that was pure sex.

[Anonymous No.4091606]

Had an idea of two arms being halves of a claw.

[Anonymous No.4091610]

>>4091606
Blog?

[Anonymous No.4091641]

How do i crab without hurting people feeling but at the same time satisfy my sadist side?

[Anonymous No.4091644]

you could probably make textures feel more believably traditional by combining them with a gradient map that's been converted into an opacity mask, but it seems like a lot of effort desu

>>4091641
do your worst, then samefag and call yourself out for crabbing

[Anonymous No.4091646]

>>4091641
Crab while posting work

[Anonymous No.4091647]

>>4091641
be incredibly subtle or phrase things terribly.
I find that I often feel like I'm insulting people very directly, but they just don't seem to get it. basically become autistic

[Anonymous No.4091651]

>>4091572
This. Also, crabs, and some tranny surrounded by thirsty fucks.

>>4091641
Do it, faggot.

[Anonymous No.4091653]

>>4091651
Tranny?

[Anonymous No.4091661]

>>4091610
ketteii on instagram

[Anonymous No.4091701]

>>4091572
the faggot reddit animator was crabbing and sperging about muh porn as usual

[Anonymous No.4091716]

>>4090468
PWEASE blog

[Anonymous No.4091747]

>>4091522
You're still symbol drawing the nose, try using more construction on it. It's good, you're improving, keep it up

[Anonymous No.4091759]

>>4091572
doggie dick loving anon went berserk

[Anonymous No.4091766]

>>4091701
I thought he was a porn artist too, though?

[Anonymous No.4091767]

>>4091563
>>4091568
Thanks anons, I’ll try doing some studies tonight and post progress :]

[Anonymous No.4091770]

>>4091766
lol no, he spergs about non-weeb style too

[Anonymous No.4091784]

>>4091716
Thanks, anon.
https://twitter.com/NessieFynn

[Anonymous No.4091795]

>>4091784
Not him but
>i wonder if people would mind if i posted stuff explaining and talking about my ocs
I would love to hear more about them. I don't have twitter so even if you posted a greentext line about them when you post them here I would be very happy.

[Anonymous No.4091814]

>>4090468
my husband~

[Anonymous No.4091834]

>>4091701
>>4091759
>>4091770
Is this yours?

[Anonymous No.4091869]

>>4091834
>>4084619

[Anonymous No.4091870]

>>4091834
huh?

[Anonymous No.4091879]

[Anonymous No.4091881]

>>4091879
Cute. I like the style

[Anonymous No.4091885]

>>4091881
Thank you senpai

[Anonymous No.4091902]

>>4091834
1. The figure hovers in the air briefly before out stretching his leg. There is no anticipation or weight behind that "axe kick" because that brief hover deadens the momentum.

Watch this video on how to perform the axe kick. It will help you.

https://youtu.be/Xg9W4bIXOr0

2. Copy and pasting the same exact frame with no change to his expression, or overshoot, does not come off well with the audience. Worse, it leaves the viewer with no payoff. This kick is infamous for ripping though opponents guards like nothing when properly executed. Give this brutal technique the respect it deserves.

[Anonymous No.4091963]

My style revolves entirely around how little effort I want to put into lineart.

[Anonymous No.4091972]

>>4091963
To be honest it feels like you didn't really put effort into anything than the girl. I feel this piece would be stronger if you just removed the rest and focused on the girl, because it doesn't really add much to the image as a whole, and it's clear you aren't as interested in doing it.
I think you should put more thought into color too, it feels like there's not a lot of rhyme or reason to the palette.

[Anonymous No.4091981]

>>4091972
Good point. Visual mad-libbing doesn't provide me with a lot of patience for extraneous detail.

[Anonymous No.4092011]

>>4091963
i feel like the end of her spine just breaks off. i'm just not getting that whole area.

[Anonymous No.4092018]

Going to get into the construction soon. Thoughts on what needs to be fixed or added before hand?

[Anonymous No.4092027]

>>4091879
blog please, anon?

[Anonymous No.4092032]

>>4091540
Thanks anon! For the record, the hair's a little flappy at the moment for the sake of reference. I'll make it more separated and "hairlike" for the final thing, great advice nonetheless.

[Anonymous No.4092041]

>>4092027
Mothesstuff on instagram

I don't post regularly though

[Anonymous No.4092053]

>>4091209
I would have asked what is fucked up about it but contrary to the critique I give you wouldn't tell me. It is also quite different now

>>4091222
Thanks a lot anon but I'm also trying just like everyone else. Btw I'm afraid she is amputee by cannon

[Anonymous No.4092071]

[Anonymous No.4092072]

>>4092041
thanks, keep it up anon!

[Anonymous No.4092095]

>>4092071
Seriously nice

[Anonymous No.4092098]

>>4092071
The silhouette doesn't read, especially that left arm with the gun, you could have made it work if it had enough contrast, but anyways it is stiff. Why does the skirt (the armour on the legs) asymmetrical? Doing the countour with those tick black lines on the hand doesn't work.
Keep it up anon

[Anonymous No.4092176]

>>4092018
put a small pause before the leg drops. Let the power build up a bit more.

[Anonymous No.4092186]

>>4092176
Like so?

[Anonymous No.4092189]

>>4092186
Different anon but that looks a lot more impactful!!

[Anonymous No.4092250]

So the panties are supposed to have like a pseudo-argyle pattern to them. Thing is, I’m kinda new to suggesting patterns on a complex 3D shape. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.4092261]

Fixed the hair and nose a bit

[Anonymous No.4092263]

>>4091766
He went legit.

[Anonymous No.4092269]

>>4092261
Just noticed this now but either I have to make the nose longer or change/remove the "V" on his upper lip (I forget what it's called), w h o o p s

[Anonymous No.4092272]

>>4092269
I kinda like the exaggerated V. But yeah, the nose could be longer.

[Anonymous No.4092360]

Just realized I've never drawn Pepe before. Cartoon designs are very fun to paint.

[Anonymous No.4092365]

>>4092071
Good job anon. Ignore >>4092098 and keep cranking out the bots!
>>4089626
Bagboss is the boss

[Anonymous No.4092380]

>>4092360
Very nice!

[Anonymous No.4092452]

>>4091972
For the first time ever I bit the bullet and decluttered something.

>>4092011
Tried rotating her bottom just a wee tad and added a little bit of her tum through her legs. Maaaaybe that helped the spine disconnect issue.

[Anonymous No.4092455]

>>4092452
Good work anon, this is a lot stronger of a piece

[Anonymous No.4092464]

>>4092455
advice help. many thanks

[Anonymous No.4092534]

Trying something new

[Anonymous No.4092536]

>>4092534
cute! CUTE!!!

[Anonymous No.4092538]

>>4092534
no offense bro, but it looks pretty fucking disgusting.

also
>>4092534
>>4092536
samefag

[Anonymous No.4092539]

>>4092538
Lol, pyw

[Anonymous No.4092543]

>>4092380
Thanks, anon. Your frog is cute too!

[Anonymous No.4092545]

>>4092538
Yeah you definitely wanted to offend me lol. It's okay, I'm feeling pretty good about this one. Found a new brush that I'm enjoying.

This >>4092536
is not me by the way. Thank you to that anon though.

[Anonymous No.4092560]

Csp’s Brushes make drawing fun again

[Anonymous No.4092561]

[Anonymous No.4092571]

>>4092534
>>4092545
Brush? I really like this, I like the forms of the dress

[Anonymous No.4092584]

>>4092571
It's the Sai Marker brush. It has this neat smearing/smudging effect that I've wanted in my work for a while but I couldn't quite figure out how to get it till today. The main shapes were done with a plain old hard square though.

[Anonymous No.4092587]

>>4092584
Is there a way to get hard square in Sai or did you use a different program?

[Anonymous No.4092589]

>>4092584
Sai 2*. Dunno how if the Sai version is any good.

[Anonymous No.4092596]

>>4092587
So here are my settings. I call it a square brush but it's not exactly a uniform square. It's kind of like a brush pen.

[Anonymous No.4092599]

Coming together
The serratus anterior feels off but I can't seem to fix it, is it too big or attaching wrong?

[Anonymous No.4092623]

WIP of an assassin dude. Gotta tweak some things here and there, refine the callouts (such as his shoes), etc.

[Anonymous No.4092698]

>>4092365
>Ignore >>4092098 and keep cranking out the bots!
To be fair, that anon actually gave some legitimate constructive criticism. He should listen to what he said, but shouldn't take offense from it.

[Anonymous No.4092733]

Update

[Anonymous No.4092741]

>>4092365
Wtf are you talking about you massive pussy, are expecting a hugbox? I wasn't crabing and I was trying to help, and I fuckin like it, but he still has work to do. You on the other hand of you keep that actitude you're never gonna improve

[Anonymous No.4092756]

>>4092733
sick stuff. Are you making a new comic?

[Anonymous No.4092761]

>>4092623
nice

[Anonymous No.4092762]

>>4092599
Boy or girl? I'm confused

[Anonymous No.4092770]

>>4092741
>>4092698
/ic/ at this point is Reddit 2.0 but instead of downvotes you get called a crab

[Anonymous No.4092772]

>>4092365
Fuck off, little bitch.

[Anonymous No.4092778]

>>4092756
I’m exploring the idea

[Anonymous No.4092779]

[Anonymous No.4092793]

>>4092770
not really, anon.
Shitting on a board that's actually decent only invites shitposters, see the whole "/v/ doesn't play games" shtick

/ic/ is as useful as you want it to be, and is one of the best open art communities around

[Anonymous No.4092815]

>>4092733
>>4092779
>>4092778
These are really good.
Also elf boy is cute

[Anonymous No.4092828]

>>4092186
Is she balancing on her toes with bent leg? It should be really hard you know

[Anonymous No.4092832]

>>4092733

Those colors and the rough shading remind me of those French comics from the 70's. You should keep it like that.

Also how do you break down poses? I kind of struggle with perspective so if you have any tips it'd be greatly appreciated.

[Anonymous No.4092843]

>>4092599
Looks pretty cute. Here's my 2 cents on the anatomy

[Anonymous No.4092844]

Just playing with shapes

[Anonymous No.4092854]

>>4092534
refreshing. makes me sad that my work is so boring.

[Anonymous No.4092857]

>>4092360
Are you the frog artist from last thread?

[Anonymous No.4092873]

Trying new lighting and composition elements

[Anonymous No.4092874]

>>4092857
kys pedo

[Anonymous No.4092878]

>>4092874
I’ll take that as a no.

[Anonymous No.4092880]

>>4092873
Oh hey this one is pretty good, no more derpy faces!
The transparent leggings need works though-

[Anonymous No.4092883]

>>4092873

You should really push this more. You only really added detailed shading and lighting to the body (and only then to her tits and stomach, lol we can tell what you like to draw). It makes you look lazy. You go to all this effort to render her skin nicely but then look at the jewelry, especially those golf cuffs on her biceps. They're RIGHT by her face, too, so when the viewer looks at her face and goes, "Oooh" they look left and go, "Oh. They didn't finish" and it just ruins the piece.
The rule of thumb for stuff like this is, if the person is looking at the viewer, there should be a lot of detail/rendering around the face, then less and less as you move away from it. Think of it as a circle of detail.

[Anonymous No.4092889]

>>4092873
According to that pose she's about to fall over. It looks like you stopped giving a shit on everything below the navel. Study people dancing or in movement, make quick sketches to get a better feel of flow and grace.

[Anonymous No.4092894]

>>4092844
Nice. It’s always interesting to see how other artists do their 3D construction.

[Anonymous No.4092898]

>>4092857
Yeah, that's me

>>4092873
The soft shading and palette in this is very comfy

[Anonymous No.4092902]

Anatomy practice after several years of forgetting all the muscles. I feel so out of shape

[Anonymous No.4092903]

>>4092883
>The rule of thumb for stuff like this is, if the person is looking at the viewer, there should be a lot of detail/rendering around the face
Interesting, not him but what about looking sideway?

[Anonymous No.4092904]

Are there any tutorials / books that could help me out with my lineart or just linework in general? I always manage to make my sketches lifeless and uglier, I need help.

[Anonymous No.4092905]

>>4092889
Different anon, but I don’t entirely agree with your critique. There’re a lot of anime artists who draw their characters floating in space to convey a feeling of weightlessness and magic. Though I could understand if you were saying her pose looks stiff/unnatural no matter the context

[Anonymous No.4092914]

>>4092903

You mean the figure looking sideway at the viewer? It should still apply. If the piece has its subject look at the viewer, they're actively to connect with them. That means it's the artist's responsibility to grab the viewer's attention and keep it there. Let them explore the art, not look at it for two seconds and then close the tab.

[Anonymous No.4092916]

>>4092914

*actively trying

[Anonymous No.4092938]

>>4092854
Thanks, but for what it's worth, it never comes easily, it's always hard to do anything that surprises yourself. If you're bored with your work, it's okay to slow down and think about why. I find I like my more spontaneous drawings even if, in the end, they're less controlled and "perfected."

[Anonymous No.4093012]

>>4092904
That's probably the trickiest part. The most I got - get the heavier/bigger parts thicker and good luck.

[Anonymous No.4093070]

>>4088030
Love the style and design of these characters. A lot of fun shapes going on. Got a sfw blog?

Sometimes I think cartooning is the way to go but I swear I'm autistic when drawing and my brain throws up all kinds of error alerts when I do anything other than simplified realism.

[Anonymous No.4093176]

>>4092880
Ah you recognized my works, thanks! Still don't have much experience working with transparent materials haha. I wasn't very confident with the way I draw face on my earlier works so those seems super awkward now that I look at it again. However I'm comfortable with the way I draw face now!

>>4092883
Appreciate the crits anon, I was having a hard time rendering the gold material in shadow without making it too attention grabbing with the high contrast so I decided to leave it as it is. I certainly can see that it looks unfinished though now that you've mention it. I'll try to do some studies on metal object later to fix this.

>>4092889
>>4092905
I was trying to go for the "floaty, weightlessness" look but yeah I should've pay more attention to that too, thanks for pointing that out.

[Anonymous No.4093231]

sketch I might work on tomorrow

[Anonymous No.4093233]

>>4093231
whoops

[Anonymous No.4093234]

>>4093231
Good work

[Anonymous No.4093275]

1yr prog lol

[Anonymous No.4093282]

>>4093275
"progress"

[Anonymous No.4093287]

>>4093275
Cute.

[Anonymous No.4093288]

>>4093275
Good improvement, anon. She's cute and I like your colors.

[Anonymous No.4093299]

>>4093282
I'd say post work but I know you won't

[Anonymous No.4093300]

Thread needs more frogs

[Anonymous No.4093357]

>>4093299
I would say to not draw the same thing but I know you won't.

[Anonymous No.4093381]

>>4092904

The most important piece of advice I can offer about linework is this: the sketch is not the drawing, the lines are. Sketches are just for prep; the lines are where you actually start drawing. In other words, your lineart feels lifeless for the same reason that traced art feels lifeless: when you trace, the artistic part of your brain goes to sleep and leaves your hand on autopilot.

How do you combat this? A number of things: use looser sketches, reduce the opacity of your sketch layer (or lightly run an eraser over it if you're working traditionally), and overall just try not to be a slave to the sketch. Do as much as possible with the sketch layer toggled off, periodically flicking it on to reorient yourself (you can do this traditionally too by inking with a lightbox.)

One more tip: never pencil in the same color as you ink; if you're inking black, use red or blue pencils. This helps to visually differentiate the sketch from the lineart so that you won't have nasty surprises waiting for you when you erase the sketch.

[Anonymous No.4093387]

>>4093299
Don't get pissy, both drawings look like they were in the same day. The only difference is coloring.

[Anonymous No.4093388]

>>4092261
You really really need to work on your line confidence, my man
I feel like your art wouldn't look so terribly beginner if you worked on that a bit

[Anonymous No.4093392]

Sophia (wisdom) and her three daughters - Faith, Hope, and Love. Coфия (мyдpocть) и тpи ee дoчepи - Bepa, Haдeждa и Любoвь.ソフィア(知恵)と彼女の3人の娘-信仰、希望、愛。
oil on canvas

let me have it.

[Anonymous No.4093400]

>>4093388
They're all all reference/rough lines. The final lines will be a lot less messy like what I got for the eyes so far.

[Anonymous No.4093408]

>>4093381
Nicely put. Good advice

[Anonymous No.4093442]

>>4093387
>>4093357
I'm not even the OP. Anyways, it's interesting to see my hunch about you was right, anon. Back to /beg/ with you

[Anonymous No.4093473]

>>4093442
>I'm not even the OP.
yeah sure

[Anonymous No.4093681]

I drew a yeehaw girl some time ago

[Anonymous No.4093737]

Trying to add some line of action to my work. Feel like I've could've done something better with the arms here but whatever

[Anonymous No.4093758]

>>4093392

Why are they anime? And why is Hope SUPER anime? (Seriously what's with the huge fucking eyes)

First off I feel like you copied this from an already-existing Orthodox painting. Second off, #1 rule of using oil paint: WORK FROM DARK TO LIGHT. Look at how muddy everything is! Did you even wash your damn brush? It feels like you didn't. In fact it feels like you just squinted at the "reference" you used (aka whatever you were tracing) and just bullshitted in the details. Then when it came to the faces you were like, "OH YEAH! ANIME!", did some stupid ninjutsu hand gesture a la Naruto, and painted in everything without regard for building up layers, or, y'know, ANATOMY.

If you presented this to a class the teacher would probably take a knife to it, and then you.

[Anonymous No.4093760]

>>4093442
>I'm not even the OP
Sure faggot

[Anonymous No.4093762]

>>4093681

I can tell you're afraid of drawing horses, and a character with two open eyes, and a hand holding reins, and doing proper research for costumes and posture on a saddle. And how fucking short are her legs? Did the Apache capture her and lop her legs off?

[Anonymous No.4093774]

>>4093760
>>4093442
You guys seem upset

[Mirrion Dorra Man !!VJsD9D5nm8D No.4093781]

>>4093758

I did.

I chose to make it anime. I know how to paint a human face.
However! You have intrigued me with the dark to light critique and the muddiness. and no, I did not wash my brush even once.

Having said all that, madame, sir, person, please, r~e~l~a~x. There is nothing left for me to teach you.
I find your critique perfectly valid.

[Anonymous No.4093784]

Update, still gotta do some strands for the hair, but it's looking pretty good so far. I'm not great at hair by the way lol

[Anonymous No.4093785]

>>4093784
For some reason, I just get the words “angry undead pilgrim” from this.

[Anonymous No.4093787]

>>4090468
I honestly like this style better than your latest stuff. You're improving

[Anonymous No.4093788]

>>4093784
Remember to think about hair as locks rather than a clump of strands. You're kind of just drawing it as a mat of fur now, break it down into ribbon-like groups of hair.

[Anonymous No.4093790]

>>4093781

Was that your first time using oils? Did you even make an underpainting?

[Mirrion Dorra Man !!VJsD9D5nm8D No.4093794]

>>4093790

No.No. :)

forgive me, i dreamt of going to a real art school, all I ended up with was with a bachelors degree from penn state in art.

[Anonymous No.4093801]

>>4093788
Thanks for the feedback anon, what are some examples on how to do hair like that?

[Anonymous No.4093812]

>>4093801
You can find guides to it pretty much anywhere, just look up "hair drawing tutorial" on DA or Pintrest or something and you'll be given plenty of guides on the basics of it. It's not a terribly complex or finicky thing

[Anonymous No.4093845]

>>4093762
Okay, fair enough. I wanted to draw the hand holding reigns, but I got lazy at that part.
https://youtu.be/WOYZD0gHKXo
Not scared of eyes though. (Also please don't involve kisumii, I'm not her, just made the video) That assumption is as if you think no one should draw winking characters, otherwise they're afraid of eyes lul.
The horse is the way it is so that she could be the focus in the video. I was originally planning on drawing her sitting properly on the horse, but it fills the screen better this way. The costume is the way it is because that's what makes the character recognizable.
The legs are kinda short though. Thanks for letting me know. I'll keep that in mind when drawing them in the future.

[Anonymous No.4093861]

How does this look? I'm still trying to find the right line thickness for my art.

[Anonymous No.4093873]

>>4092623
Very nice shading and color. The musculature on the torso is off and looks oversimplified in comparison to everything else however.

[Mirrion Dorra Man !!VJsD9D5nm8D No.4093878]

>>4093861

you have potential : )

[Anonymous No.4093879]

[Anonymous No.4093884]

>>4093878
No offence man but this is a really bad redline and adds just as many problems as it fixes,

[Anonymous No.4093921]

>>4093884

^ This

>>4093861
Her hand should be as big as her face. Look at her tiny it is.

[Anonymous No.4093928]

>>4092873
those black things on her lower part makes it look like she has fat ass thighs

[Anonymous No.4093933]

>>4093275
honestly all your girls look like the gollum from lotr

[Anonymous No.4093936]

>>4093878
>an even shittier redline
never change

[Anonymous No.4093938]

>>4093933
it's a kind of style you sometimes see from eastern artists, where they exaggerate cheek fat, the curve of the forehead and such. their style is not as extreme as others i've seen.

[Anonymous No.4093960]

>>4092898
Derp, missed your post but thank you! Nice linework by the way!

>>4093928
Well...

>>4093861
I'd say find artist you like and try to emulate them, but generally a variation of thin and thick line is best imo. Unless you're your workflow is more painterly so you can put down thick line first and make the lines thinner as you paint.

[Anonymous No.4093967]

>>4093861
I think right now you should focus on studying form and human figure drawing more than anything else. Right now your character looks very flat, and the anatomy is rather weak. You have an understanding of what the human body looks like, but you break it into flat, 2D shapes rather than thinking about the 3D forms each body part has and how they interlock with each other, and I feel that is where your weakness comes from. I did a quick redline to show what I mean by that, sorry for the inaccuracies, I am not the best myself but I hope this helps my comments make more sense.
I'd recommend going through Hampton's figure drawing book, he breaks down the human body's forms and basic muscle groups in a really easily understandable way. I found it very helpful myself, so I feel like if you did spent some time dedicated to studying you could really level up your skills at drawing the human body and characters as well.

[Anonymous No.4093968]

>>4093933
Oh that GOlllum?

[Anonymous No.4093997]

>>4093681
i like it, saved

[Anonymous No.4094009]

>>4092698
It was all instruction with a "keep it up" at the end. Anon just wants to guide people but not show his work
>>4092741
I'm just saying, anon posted a fucking sketch and you're going off without PYW. Chill and let's see your Drawn Examples of how to 'improve' his alternative styled artwork.
>>4092772
Post your art

[Anonymous No.4094034]

>>4092072
Thanks, will do.

[Anonymous No.4094061]

>>4093275
Blog? Art style feels like something I've seen before, but I'm not sure.

[Anonymous No.4094072]

boy wonder

[Anonymous No.4094083]

bored of this

[Anonymous No.4094088]

Paladin chat, featuring another guy's sexy paladin character from his comic.

[Anonymous No.4094090]

I should just go back to /beg/.

[Anonymous No.4094092]

>>4094090
I didn't realize any drawfags could draw Lum. Do you have a twitter?

[Anonymous No.4094095]

Is this even worth continuing

[Anonymous No.4094096]

>>4094090
it's nice anon. I like it

[Mirrion Dorra Man !!VJsD9D5nm8D No.4094100]

ONEbetter DAY

[Anonymous No.4094101]

>>4094100
no I don't like this

[Anonymous No.4094103]

>>4092560
What brushes are you using?

[Anonymous No.4094107]

>>4094092
Only zoomer drawfags can't/don't draw her. Look for ssuummaa, but don't expect much.

[Anonymous No.4094123]

>>4092623
I really love this anon, good job

[Anonymous No.4094161]

>>4093275
>Hey guise look it's my Shinobu Monogatari OC no stealing.

[Anonymous No.4094175]

>>4094100
Cute!

[Anonymous No.4094182]

>>4094100
Thanks i hate it

[Anonymous No.4094195]

>>4094100
I don't not like this

[Anonymous No.4094211]

>>4090385
Try to emphasize the crystalline like maybe add crystal spots to her body
Also hand is kinda off balance

[Anonymous No.4094222]

>>4092380
SPACE FROG

SPACE FROG

[Anonymous No.4094246]

>>4094100
based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.4094278]

>>4094100
Stop

[Anonymous No.4094576]

>>4090277
hit me up with that shit nigs

[Anonymous No.4094580]

>>4094100
Why learn anatomy, when you can just have boobs cover up 50% of the drawing lol

[Anonymous No.4094585]

>>4094072
Looks nice, but please drop the goatee. Give him a proper beard or just shave it.

[Anonymous No.4094625]

[Anonymous No.4094654]

>>4094100
my hero

[Anonymous No.4094780]

[Anonymous No.4094800]

>>4094780
Really neat

[Anonymous No.4094842]

>>4094083
that's the worst jacko ive ever seen

[Anonymous No.4094852]

>>4094083
The shoulders seem a bit overly-large, but otherwise I really like your use of shapes and line. I think if you could reign in your proportions a little more you could have a really strong and unique style.

[Anonymous No.4094859]

>>4094625
Eyes don’t quite look focused. From this angle, the back eye would be closer to the center of the face than the front eye. Also the sleeves don’t look like they’re responding to the velocity.

[Anonymous No.4094867]

>>4094859
I completely forgot about the feather things reacting to the wind.

[Anonymous No.4094876]

>>4094083
>tranny shoulders
based

[Anonymous No.4094884]

>>4094842
Useless comment
>>4094852
Thanks. Yeah I couldn't figure out how I wanted to push the shoulders/back especially and ultimately just lost steam on the whole thing. Oh well.
>>4094876
Why is this thing suddenly getting replies. But point taken.

[Anonymous No.4094956]

Comfort-zoning a little to have some fun painting. Though I feel like it's such a boring piece it might not be worth putting too much time into it. Something about the colors feels off to me but I'm not sure what

>>4093787
Thanks, anon. It's reassuring to hear that

[Anonymous No.4094958]

>>4094576
https://twitter.com/HonHearthy

[Anonymous No.4094961]

>>4094884
i wasn't being sarcastic, though i was joking.

[Anonymous No.4094971]

>>4094956

You've never been to a men's tailor, have you.

[Anonymous No.4094972]

>>4094971
No I haven't, I just try to look at photos and hope for the best. Advice would be appreciated

[Anonymous No.4094978]

>>4094961
Hey Rin Nakai is a good looking woman. But sure, Jack-O is not in fact jacked, noted.

[Anonymous No.4094982]

How do you avoid the monotony and tedium that seems to always come with doing your lines layer? I'm always eager to start sketching when I wake up, and I can always find time to practice a little painting. When it comes time to ink, I prepare to sit staring at my screen for half the day trudging toward a soulless result. The only reason I haven't dropped this shit and completely focused on painting is cause I want to at some point draw comics in the style of traditionally inked manga. This shit feels like a job, it's not fun.

[Anonymous No.4094986]

>>4094982
If you don't want to do lines you don't have to do them. Clean up your sketch and render it, or figure out some liness style

[Anonymous No.4094998]

>>4094982
It's the opposite with me. I love drawing and inking, don't care as much for the painting part. On some level I think individuals are just wired differently and you have to play to your strengths. But still, it's also a matter of approach and attitude. For me, with painting, it was about finding a more graphic hard-edged approach (with some edges blended out afterward) that FELT like drawing.
Have you tried line sculpting? It's a more painterly way of approaching linework. Also, I find inking is more enjoyable when you're not a slave to the sketch like >>4093381 said. Set stabilization relatively low, don't be perfectionist about it, let happy accident happens etc.

[Anonymous No.4095002]

>>4092733
blog / linky for your work + was there anything specific you did to get so great at your forms? Everything you make looks so fucking disgusting solid, jesus

[Anonymous No.4095010]

>>4094998
I am line sculpting as far as I can tell, I put some lines down and try to take a bit off their edges with an eraser when I think it's appropriate. It usually just makes them wobbly looking, but I'm weaning myself off of spamming ctrlz at least. I already typically turn stabilization off. There's just no such thing as a happy accident when I'm at the wheel, where a mistake adds charm to someone else's work, it only serves to throw off my drawing. I still don't know how people manage to ignore their mistakes, and how they determine when a mistake is worth keeping or better off being redone.

[Anonymous No.4095026]

>>4095010
Line (or shape) confidence, seriously. It's in the name. Do you ever practice sketching and drawing with pencil and eraser only? Even better, with pen only and letting mistakes be? Even simple doodling can be liberating. It's letting whatever is in you in that moment fall out, without judgment.
It's tough to relinquish control, but as with anything, you get better at it with practice. It's a question of how badly you want it though. If it's a huge drag constantly then maybe learn how to work without lines. But if something feels off, only you can say, then do something about it.

[Anonymous No.4095034]

>>4094978
i'm super horny for rin nakai

[Anonymous No.4095035]

>>4095026
I should add to this, you get more "confident" not just by scribbling nonsense, but instead by learning your subject as well as you can (paraphrasing Milt Kahl: "know your subject so well that you don't need reference"), and then by iterating on it from imagination. Want to draw arms? Study arm anatomy in detail first--what John K calls the "stiff period"; then draw what you remember, loosening it up and pushing the volumes in interesting ways ("fluid period"). And repeat, over a long period of time.

http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2009/11/stiff-period-to-fluid-period.html

[Anonymous No.4095042]

>>4095035
Not anon, but I'm glad to see John's artistic insight and methods still being explored and studied despite the shit around him. Separating art from artist is very important.

[Anonymous No.4095044]

>>4095042
He's not a good person, but his blog legitimately contains tons of insightful advice for free. Anybody who would dismiss good free advice because they don't like who's giving it, it's their loss.

[Anonymous No.4095045]

>>4095044
Amen.


Also, nice dubs

[Anonymous No.4095055]

Decided to do a slight redesign of an OC of mine along with a variant of him when his mom takes his Xbox away. I don't usually draw muscles and I think it shows.

[Anonymous No.4095064]

>>4095055
You have to spend some time studying forms, friend. If you want to learn how to draw cartoons studying Preston Blair's stuff might do you some good.

[Anonymous No.4095077]

New Thread

>>4095076
>>4095076
>>4095076

[Anonymous No.4095219]

>>4094971
>You've never been to a men's tailor, have you.
Ross! Will you tell him! Isn't that how a tailor measures pants?

[Anonymous No.4095312]

>>4094072
bblog?