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**Don’t aimlessly study the fundamentals or anime. Learn the fundamentals (form, values, color, composition, etc.) through properly copying anime.**

How to study anime/get better at imagination drawing/obtain a style/etc.:
>Find an anime reference you like (an illustration, screenshot, anime figure, 3D model, etc.)
>Find learning material that will help you reconstruct your ref using simpler fundamental elements
>Trace the ref using that construction
>Copy the ref using that construction
>Draw the ref from memory that using construction
>Repeat the process for the same ref multiple times and mix in other refs
>After studying a lot of refs, drawing from your head will become easier

**Focus on Tracing/Copying/Memory drawing the big shapes/values/elements first then later worry about the finer details. Focus on only a portion of a complex ref first then move on to studying the full ref.**

General anime style discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Keep most of your personal works for /alt/ or the other critique threads. Here we should be drawing copies from good references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

General Art Overview:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz_mE9a29gsEd09TemJMNTJMWGs

Japanese Book Collection:
https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!sddDyarD

Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/Yz2scAEc

Discord: https://discord.gg/3bwdfRk

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>>4048044

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>> No.4064056

>discord
yikes

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i stayed the night studying some heads, i can tell theres something off in the faces , i was having trouble placing the features

>> No.4064116

>>4063921
Something something is this thread worth it etc etc

>> No.4064137

>>4064100
good keep studying draw everyday

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>>4064100
Nice hatching. I like the way that you deconstructed the references with rhythm lines too. I adjusted lain’s eyes a little but I don’t know if I should have, because lain’s eyes always looked kinda wonky and you actually captured it quite well as far as I can tell

>> No.4064271

>>4064056
kill yourself aquanigger

>> No.4064773

dead as fuck

>> No.4064894

>>4064100
Got a blog? You have good taste and I might want to see that in the future when I don't browse these threads as often.

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I promised a bit before, but uploaded only now. Thanks again to Anon for the text. By the way I need to put here your drawings or is it better to look for another thread?

>> No.4065056

>>4064915
I love how it turned out, anon

>> No.4065065

>>4064915
>that anatomy
yikes

>> No.4065090

>>4064773
yeah

>> No.4065259

>>4064137
thanks, i promise i will anon
>>4064248
ah, so it was the eyes then, just a simple fix and kaos/lains face is looking much better now, i will study some more and keep these redlines in mind, thanks anon
>>4064894
that's the first time someone asks me for blog.
I don't think I'm good enough to have a blog yet but thanks. It really means a lot.

>> No.4065694

Just wanted to thank everyone in these threads. Materials and advice posted has helped me on improving stuff little by little. Keep up the good work!

>> No.4065714

Long time lurker here, are these threads worth it?

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>>4065714
There are some anons who give very good advice, so I'd say yes. (If you're reading this anon, thanks again for writing this and previous comments in that thread. It seriously changed my mindset)

>> No.4065775

>>4065764
I wrote that, I hover around these threads often!
Didn't realize it was that game changing, glad it had a positive impact. Keep up tbe good work, anon!

>> No.4065830

>>4065056
That's nice to hear. Will try soon to upload a new sketch
>>4065056
Next will be better... maybe

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Trying to draw Tidus as Nomura Tetsuya, but it's very hard to pull off. At least I'm getting better and I can see various mistakes I'm making (for example; making the eyes larger than the source)
I recieved my Kita-boshi pencil today so I had to test it out. I'm in love with it, it feels so good to draw with.

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>>4065880
try using a grid guide and slowly reducing the amount of squares with each iterative drawing. you need a strong sense of proportions and solid visual measuring skills in order to learn new styles, and this is one way to develop that. it looks to me like you're making the same proportional mistakes (face taking up too much of the head), and that's something you might ingrain by repetition.

if you enjoy details, go ahead and add them. but you can tell whether or not you've captured the essence of the reference just with big picture proportions. i would focus on one thing at a time. if you're practicing proportions, dont worry about detail. conversely, if you're practicing detail, don't worry about proportions. eventually as these two things become easier on their own, you'll want to practice them together. it's a little bit like learning a piece on the piano (most instructors would have you practice hands separately, and then hands together)

>> No.4065999

>>4065993
>Grid guide
Oh fug, why have I never thought about using this before now...
Thanks a lot for taking the time to help me, anon. I'll research a bit about the grid method before trying it out myself! Again, thank you.

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>>4065993
you did not draw tidus three times

>> No.4066015

>>4065999
good luck!

>>4066006
nah clearly i just copied and pasted him down, but i think you get the point

>> No.4066031

>>4065714
No, the hair is just you practicing, the eyes are you looking up a guide.
Everything else is the same skill that applies to any other thread.

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>>4065775
nice to see that not everyone on ic is retarded, i've said some pretty similar things. If you're stagnating, you need to work smarter not harder. Pay close attention when you find a part you have difficulty with, the parts you find yourself needing to redraw, or can't place right, or otherwise are interested in working on. Then figure out how to not have trouble with it any more. That's troubleshooting and it's the best thing.

People who say to "draw every day" are just repeating brainless cliches, you'll naturally draw more if you enjoy it (because you're winning often) or if there is a lot of work to do, you really don't have to force it.

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>> No.4067127

>>4066175
bretty good. Just missing back of head

>> No.4067370

>>4066175
How are you recording it?

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Some expression practices from imagination.

>> No.4067567

How would you guys recommended a complete newbie to learn to draw manga, Loomis?

>> No.4067570

>>4067567
Steve Huston

>> No.4067978

what killed these threads

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>>4067392
needs more loomis

>> No.4067985

>>4067567
>>4067570
Seconding this. Loomis is a meme.

>> No.4067992

>>4067978
/ALT/ and /BEG/ being already suitable for the people that use this redundant thread. most partt of every thread is either talking or things that aren't studies of any anime

>> No.4068001

>>4067978
I never thought there was much point in posting studies and I won't be posting personal work here.

>> No.4068070

>>4067978
I just post on /alt/ I get more feedback there.

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We need to revive doing stylized anime studies based on reference

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>>4068143

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>>4068145

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>>4068154

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>>4068070
Let /ASG/ die and create /aBEG/, anime /BEG/. Removing the "only studies" limitation will keep all the begs flooding /ic/ with anime-related shit threads in one single thread.

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>>4068157

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>>4068173

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>>4068175

>> No.4068177

Are we getting raided?

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>>4068176
Now go draw

>>4068177
No. I just want to spice this thread up and I'm also bored. You can do your own refs if you want. I'll upload my own studies of these later

>> No.4068191

Tried to draw with >>4068143 as reference
Did I get anime style right?

>>4068182
Thanks for the photos anon!

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>>4068191
oof

>> No.4068229

>>4067392
Cute, but try to vary the expression next time.

There is more emotions/expressions other than happy or content.

>> No.4068245

>>4068229
I know, I was focusing on different sorts of smiles this one. Im planning to have my next batch of head studies on another xpression and try to make variants of those

>> No.4068252

>>4063921
how do you guys do your networking with other artists?

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>>4068143
Should have measured better.

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>>4068143
i was actually doing this last night. trying to figure out the hip area and i'm kinda into drawing bunny suits right now, this is like my 3rd bunny girl haha

i'll probably do a couple quickies of the ones you posted, thanks anon

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>>4068303
reference

>> No.4068307

>>4068295
How do you properly measure things? I have a hard time with that and my proportions end up being all kinds of screwed up. I mean, I just sit in my chair looking at a picture on my monitor as a reference. Turns out pretty bad most of the time but I think that's less the method and more me.

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>>4068143
Gave it a shot

>> No.4068357

>>4068307
That was a comment to myself since I didn't spend as much time measuring or looking at the photo when constructing.
Anyway I normally would just do a blockout drawing while keeping track of the relative sizes of everything. How big is this compared to this, etc.

>> No.4068514

>>4068159
>Removing the "only studies" limitation will keep all the begs flooding /ic/ with anime-related shit threads in one single thread.
this is a really stupid rule, i don't know why someone would even bother with that. there seems to be some autist who really wants to control these threads.

>**Keep most of your personal works for /alt/ or the other critique threads. Here we should be drawing copies from good references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**
this wasn't always there at all, what's the point of having the thread if you're gonna say post it to alt or other places

>> No.4068531

>>4067370
https://garyc.me/sketch/gallery.php#6602006
This and obs studio. Then I cropped and sped it up and turned it into a gif on a gif making website.

>> No.4068556

>>4068357
A block-out drawing, you say? Sorry, I'm a novice. Would you mind going into that or providing an example or something? I need to work on my technique.

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>>4068143

>>4068295
cute!! the face reminds me a bit of the dangan ronpa art style, nice job

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>>4067392
I'm still learning, but I see that you're making the same mistakes I used to make when I started.

>> No.4068643

>>4068307
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ0y4MiM-pc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Prj9mHQPlU&t=5m52s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVIBjVdeg2c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ0lz7W0CYs

>> No.4068674

>>4064056
Fpbp

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>>4068143

>> No.4068693

>>4066128
>you'll naturally draw more if you enjoy it
This is my absolutely biggest hurdle. Being a beginner, everything is hard and everything sucks. I don't enjoy sucking. I know I need to sack up and deal with it, that's the only way to get better.

>> No.4068804

>>4068677
nice

>> No.4068813

>>4068677
Blog?

>> No.4068820

>>4068593
I like the rendering for this, could use a little bit of more polishing
the eyes though, they kinda bug me out

>> No.4068849

>>4068514
Thought of a sticky:
>if you're /aBEG/inner who wants to draw anime, use this thread to post art, studies and ask for advice on anime styles. Don't fill up /ic/ with single-question posts on how you can't figure out anime heads, post here instead.
Then you create a discord because apparently every general thread needs to have an online self-contained community these days.

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I did it without references, i don't really know how to make it better, it was just a practice sketch at first.

>> No.4068874

>>4068348
Does anyone have any comments

>> No.4068895

>>4068874
trash except for the hair , you used vectors?

>> No.4068897

>>4068874
The curve her legs are making when resisting the skirt's tension make the thighs seem extremely squared.

>> No.4068900

>>4068143
Exactly! That is one of the best ways to develop an aesthetic. Not simply from copying other anime, detail for detail.
Past 3 threads have come and gone with little actual studying, glad to see some take initiative.

>> No.4068909

>>4068348
it's decent but could use more fixing on her shading. Everything looks pillow shaded

>> No.4068911

>>4068303
oooh I like this, the lineart is nicely done

>> No.4068936

>>4068895
I didn't use vectors. What makes the hair any better than the rest of it
>>4068897
I see thanks

>> No.4068940

>>4068693
You should be able to have fun with it and draw interesting stuff in several months

>> No.4068990

>>4068693
being a baddie sucks, but at least it's interesting when you're improving. And even baddies do better every once in a while.

>> No.4068992

>>4068348
the colors are so western lel, as if she was white and not asian

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>>4068176
god, i suck at hands

>> No.4069310

>>4068992
What do you mean the colors are Western, are you just referring to her skin tone or like actual color theory

>> No.4069333

>>4069310
I mean her skin looks colored quite pink like a white european girl's skin, and her hair color looks red like a white european girls hair. It's also not as straight as an asian girls hair would be either - theres a really specific sort of way to do it but I suppose that could be chalked up to style.

ie the colors made her look european. it isn't really a big deal.

>> No.4069338

>>4069310
He's just being le edgy 4chan racist.

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>>4069333
eh i'll tegaki it

>> No.4069344

>>4069338
the different races quite literally have different skin types, hair types, bone structures and everything. If you study anatomy of the different races you'll see it quite clearly.

>> No.4069404

At what point does the "it's fun to draw people" book actually start teaching me how to draw? Because right now I'm sixty pages in and all he's taught is that the ribs are shaped like balls and the hips are a heart.

>> No.4069430

>>4069344
I agree, but how does that relate to the colors being Western besides skin tone

>> No.4069453

>>4069430
when I said western I meant the character looks like an ethnic westerner, not that it was drawn in a western style. Although it does look western style too lel.
>colors being Western besides skin tone
asian hair is naturally very dark brown/black, and naturally straight. It is not brown like you did it. Again this makes the character look like she's ethnically European when she's supposed to be ethnically Asian.

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>>4069341

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>>4069453
Unrelated anon, I think why we draw "westernized" anime is because we know how our facial structure looks like and it's stuck in our subconsciousness. Therefore it requires more observation than from an average Japanese person to achieve the same effect. We know how an European eye looks and if we want to draw an eye, that's what we think of. When I was studying various styles I've noticed the height of the eyelashes peaks slightly towards outside instead of the center like "our" eyes and that's what mostly says that drawn girls are Asian and nor Caucasian.

Though I think the only crucial part of drawing the eye is showing the eyelid partly going over the tear duct, because the "peaking" isn't always there depending on the style.

I don't intend this as an excuse for having trouble drawing ""real"" anime which doesn't resemble western animation and I hope this all doesn't come off as cringy as if sounds in my head. It's something I've noticed trying to figure out why my drawings always looked a bit off, and maybe helps someone else too.

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>>4069543
This might show it better. The "height peak" isn't visible there, though, I mostly saw it on drawings.

>> No.4069700

>>4067392
CUTE

>> No.4069931
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Studying fertile anime bodies.

>> No.4070449

I'm about to go crazy doing nothing but draw a box. Are there any F U N anime drills/simple drawings I can do/make, as a beginner?

>> No.4070458

>>4069931
cute and funny

>> No.4070463

>>4069548
Oh fuck I didn't know there's a new Anatomy4sculptors book coming. I'm so fucking hyped, I hope there not going to be a year late like last time

>> No.4070469

>>4069931
damn, they look really good, what kind of figure drawing approach do you normally use?

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I like the way this turned out even tho it’s really messy

>> No.4070480

>>4070471
fix the forehead

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>>4070469
I study art from manga I like, and try put it into shapes I understand.

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>>4070480
Better?

>> No.4070502

>>4070463
Here's the source my man. I agree it looks absolutely amazing, the third book is on kickstarter, apparently, and will be officially released as PDF.

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/2x4raK

>> No.4070504

>>4070491
Not that guy but it looks much better now

>> No.4070511

>>4070504
Thanks for that :]

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referenced my favorite pic
https://imgur.com/a/f6XdxGc

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>>4070491
now that you posted that it makes more glaring what was the problem the whole head is kinda fucked

>> No.4070635

>>4070615
Feels bad

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>>4070615
>>4070635

heres a redline?
your style it kinda goes against our lord loomis sama, however it can work

you are missing some key points usually the nose bridge and the chin are parallel on grils otherwise they look like gigachad

the bottom of the nose is usually in the middle of the top of the eye socket and chin you can get a bit lower or higher but not really much,anyways for your drawing you need to draw a longer neck if you draw a regular one it looks like a child with small eyes a trait for adul people so you are mixing a lot of mistakes there but most importantly youd drew the back end of the neck too close to the ear wtf, and the point of your nose is too in the middle it should be lower otherwise again it looks like a child so as you can see your drawing is a trainwreck

at the bottom you can see i drew the ear closer to the eye but still doesnt look bad because theres still some fundamentals there

tdlr: LOOMIS but also check a good source for the style you are aiming,imo the persona style fits your shit

also always draw a silhouette of your bodies before adding clothes hair and stuff it helps a lot to find mistakes trust me on this

>> No.4070668

>>4070659
I have no idea how I didn’t spot that before Jesus Christ, thank you so much for the help anon! I’ll be more careful next time, I’m really grateful

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>>4068143
>>4068145
>>4068149

hey this was pretty fun

>> No.4070897

>>4070855
faces look western desu

>> No.4070922

>>4070897
>>>/pol/ is that way

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>>4070922
did that triggered you? are you okay?

>anime study general
>draw realistic aka western

>> No.4070988
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>>4070922
tranny are you okay? Tranny are you okay? Are you okay tranny?

>> No.4071015

>>4070922
You've been hit by...
you've been struck by...

an ooooopinion!

>> No.4071115
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Looks bizarre, I like it though.

>> No.4071120

nice blog

>> No.4071123

>>4071120
duuuuude, thanks

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>>4070491
Loving the Terra e vibes Im getting from this style

>> No.4071138

>>4071128
That’s very flattering anon :D thank you

>> No.4071556

>>4070855
I like it

>> No.4071693
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Is this dynamic?

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>>4068143
How do I into clean lines?

>> No.4071734

>>4071733
Draw more, reach drawing number 50 and lineart will stop being a nuisance. That or raise your stabilizers, whichever works for you.

>> No.4071811
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>>4063921
I'm too high inhib to draw anime hair and clothes, the only thing I'm comfortable with drawing is drawing blank anime girls with a face.

I don't have any weed in stock so how do I get the confidence and skill to draw beautiful anime hair?

I already watched all of the Pin2D tutorials regarding hair.

>> No.4071817

>>4069290
mogsme, get those eyes right on Toushou though and also on the other character, Toushou's eyes are more glaring though

>> No.4071835

>>4071817
whats mogsme and toushou? you meant toshinou ?
if that was it then it was not my intention to draw kyoko, just a girl with generic japanese uniforms, but is almost her though lol

now that you said i can see the eyes are a bit messed up, thanks, i'm having a hard time drawing eyes, time to go back to some fundies i guess

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>>4071835
>whats Toushou?
https://myanimelist.net/character/35871/Kyouko_Toshinou

Yes, sorry I messed up her name.

Looks like Toushino to me. Or is that her last name? I forgot.

Mogsme is incel lingo for considering the context "you're better than I am [at drawing]"

Well, I can't draw clothes and hair, but you know as a brutally blackpilled incel I know that the face is the most important part in terms of attraction.

Who am I kidding I can't even draw clothes lmao

>> No.4071847

>>4071817
pull those mouths up a little forgot to mention

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>>4068813
sorry no blog yet
>>4068911
thanks, still experimenting with different programs and brushes
>>4069290
hey your eyes have improved since the redline. keep it up anon

>> No.4071914

>>4071693
yeah it's Dynamic if you know what I mean ;)

>> No.4071977

>>4071811
Always remember the place where the bangs "grow out" from and direct the lines from there. Visualize the long strokes in your head before you transfer them on paper/tablet and try to keep the flow in mind. Then, you can do studies and just redraw the hair focusing on where the strands come from to develop muscle memory. Btw, I recommend downloading booru grabber (Grabber) and finding artists you really like on yande.re or any other booru and batch downloading their art. It has helped me a lot with studies.

>> No.4071978

>>4071977
I usually batch download from Pixiv and then gesture their art.

I don't really do a real study to be quite honest.

>> No.4072400

>>4071914
Awesome :D

>> No.4072409

>>4071693
This looks mostly good but ankles are killing it anon! Google some references, copy from the reference, then try to draw from imagination. Keep repeating until they look better! Best of luck

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started using size varying brushes.
its fun

>> No.4072446

>>4072409
Don't talk to me like I'm a child bro.

>>4072440
Swapping between brushes now and again is just fun. It's just making shit fresh.

>> No.4072450

>>4072446
>Don't talk to me like I'm a child bro.
Not him, but fuck off. You receive supportive feedback and that's how you respond?

>> No.4072466

>>4072450
His supportive feedback looks ironic, so I gave him an ironic reply.

In the case it's not ironic, you should probably understand, to get this far in drawing, you should know when an ankle looks bad, and how to do classic fundamental practice.

Advice should be considered based on the work and the person, and not spouting tips like a suicide hotline number and "how's the weather" greetings.

>> No.4072473
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>>4072466
so this... is the power of the dunning kruger

>> No.4072477

>>4072466
NGMI

>> No.4072498
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Street fighter Studyyyy

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>>4068149

>> No.4072530

>>4072498
the hatching is really poor, especially under her groin that looks like pubes. really terrible anatomy on her left arm, muscles not inserting near a believable place and forearm completely fucked design-wise and length-wise. what is this pseudo-squat pose? you've hidden so much and it's very lacking in confidence.

>> No.4072573

>>4071817
>>4071846
>>4072466
More proof that /asg/ users are unironically autistic

>> No.4072577

>>4072519
not /u/ enough

>> No.4072582

>>4072573
turn /asg/ into /aBEG/
Take off these dicks' cloak and reveal them as they are: /BEG/s who just want to solely draw anime

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>>4072577
hoho

>> No.4072608

>>4072607
very fucking based

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>>4072473
>having confidence in your skills is a dunning kruger
Stay in self hate, crab bro.

>> No.4072663

>>4072659
confidence? at your skill level? yes dunning kruger.

>> No.4072678

>>4072663
Post your work.

>> No.4072681

>>4072678
you think I need your /beg/ take on it? lol

>> No.4072686

>>4072681
probably spend 6 hours using references for one piece , and criticize people that try draw from their imagination lmao.

>> No.4072690

>>4072686
Ah, projecting are we?

>> No.4072697

>>4072690
yeah i'm roleplaying you right now

>> No.4072699

>>4072697
oo damn anon you just NGMI'd me into oblivion, fuck man
Keep drawing shit lolis and brushing criticism away, you're on the path to making it.

>> No.4072710

>>4072686
Do you really think you're good enough to be ignoring and condensing to people who are trying to help you. You aren't. The only work you've shown so far have been little shit incomplete sketches

>> No.4072758

>>4072466
Ugh you genuinely think your drawing is that good? I'm speechless, Dunning Kruger is real.

>> No.4072763

>>4072607
>>4072519
hell yeah

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>>4072699
>>4072710
>>4072758
If my drawings are truly horrible, and I'm unable to see it, criticize something I don't know, than an ankle.

If I don't know how it's bad, I'll continue thinking it's best thing I've ever seen.

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>>4072767
>>4072758
>>4072710
>>4072699
>>4072697
>>4072690
So this is the power of /asg/

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>>4072767
Is it delusion or conceit to have the default attitude that your work is perfection until someone points out what is wrong, and then when someone does, you tell them that their criticism is worthless. Your work is extremely basic, not a single sketch is even a completed figure. What I'm saying is, there's not much to criticize, so what do you expect. You're drawing rudimentary outlines, asking for criticism, and ignoring it.

>> No.4072791

>>4072767
You want critique? I'll give you critique.

>>4071693

-Knees aren't meant to be square;
-There's no concrete hair structure, meaning theres no hint of the root of the hair;
-The ears feel less like they're pointing downwards and more like they're cones attached to the face;
-The hair bangs are clearly hiding a lack of face structure, evident by that almost non-existent chin;
-One thigh is way thicker than the other;
-The thigh on our left is fully connected to the torso with no hint of a pelvic bone;
-The lower half of the leg on our left, it's not connected to the knee properly
-Hand-hiding, evident by there being no hint of where the arms are going or how they're affecting the pose;
-You call that a mouth?
-No nose;
-Belly button is too high.
lastly

-ankle is shit.

>> No.4072795

>>4072791
>lastly

>-ankle is shit.
I love you.

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>>4072791
This is some good shit.

>>4072781
>Is it delusion or conceit to have the default attitude that your work is perfection until someone points out what is wrong
I'm drawing what I love about other drawings, and so I think it's perfect.
>there's not much to criticize
If a simplified form can't be criticised ,that's news to me and I don't think I was rude to the ankle poster.

>> No.4072830

>>4072826
You got quite the "I can do no wrong" arrogance vibe to you, dear.

>> No.4072832

>>4072830
I don't believe in free will.

>> No.4072834

So the meta is to be an asshole until someone gives you critique for free like a cuck.

>> No.4072847

>>4072834
Being an asshole is part of the /asg/ culture.

>> No.4072955

Is this thread only for anime studies, or can we post original artwork that's in an anime style for critique?

>> No.4072964

>>4072955
Yes

>> No.4072974

>>4072955
sticky says the former, but old threads have had lots of the latter.

>> No.4072998

fuck the sticky

>> No.4073030
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Doodling (practicing) some facial features. Trying to copy Nomura's style as per usual

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>>4068143
ehh

>> No.4073041

>>4073036
did someone fart on her face

>> No.4073085

>>4072832
haha you're a retard then. God is real, grow up.

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>>4073085
If you can't see reality, for what it is, you're NGMI

>> No.4073111

>>4073085
>grow up
>still believes in thousands of years-old fairy tale

>> No.4073115

>>4072582
>/BEG/s who just want to solely draw anime
Well yeah no shit. Fuck drawing realism. Fuck landscapes.

>> No.4073118

>>4073108
>those proportions
thats gonna be yikes for me oniichan

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>>4073111

>>4073108
he says as he posts loli tits. Geez I think you're a degenerate and thats why YOU can't see clearly.

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>>4073111
well prove god doesn't exist

oh no no no , check mate atheist.

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>>4073118
Lad, there's nothing wrong with cone lolis.

>> No.4073130
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i want to improve the style of my eyes/head shape. its just a sketch but any comments are welcome

>> No.4073131

>>4073121
You're the one claiming he does, put proof on the table first. Not my job to prove you're right.
But you won't and this'll become a "no, you" back-and-forth that doesn't belong in this thread.

>> No.4073135

>>4073130
It's not style, it's just accuracy.
In simple terms, draw more.

>> No.4073140

>>4073130
nice weeb eyes.

hey do you have drawpile?

>> No.4073143

>>4073135
Understood. What do you think of it? Good direction, do something else, etc.

>> No.4073145 [DELETED] 

>>4073131
There's plenty of proof for God's existence

>> No.4073151

>>4073145
Not the thread for that anon, and my side of the conversation ends there. Feel free to continue and get banned when a janitor spots you rambling about god by yourself.

>> No.4073152

>>4073140
yeah i do, dont use it often tho. why, whats up?

>> No.4073156

>>4073152
wanna draw on there? lel. just thought of it for some reason.

>> No.4073157

>>4073156
post a room and ill try to join, hopefully i don't get IP phished and DDOS'd

>> No.4073163

>>4073157
drawpile://syntheticdreams.net/75d5f89d-fc6e-4af5-832f-7e2a89e98b6d

a room with 3 others

>> No.4073167

>>4073157
if that doesn't work for you, it's name is "a pleasant drawing session"

>> No.4073188

>>4072573
Honestly this is a thread about anime, don't act like you're the neurotypical Chad around here, you have third degree autism as well.

>> No.4073190

>>4073130
The eye that is technically further away from the viewer (her right eye) is somehow larger.

Note that that doesn't mean you should make that eye ridicilously small, ever so slightly smaller than her left eye.

>> No.4073192

>>4073036
The face is so critical in getting appeal and attraction.

You have to get the face right Anon

>> No.4073199

>>4072607
The importance of the face...

Anime has a certain head shape to it for female characters.

And a certain style of noses.

The breasts on the right girl also seem a bit on the soggy side.

And the mouths aren't usually that large.

>> No.4073207

>>4068348
The anatomy on the legs is incorrect?
Have you gave doing 1 minute or 2 minute gestures a try?

>> No.4073231

>>4073163
>try your best practicing in drawpile
>silence
>dude traces a touhou
>audible clapping from the whole of humanity was heard

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>>4073231
congratulations

>> No.4073267

>>4073231
post it

>> No.4073269

>>4073207
I haven't given them a try. Would you recommend Hampton?

>> No.4073270

>>4073269
I'm a beg myself I haven't read that even though people keep shoving it into my throat.

Some guy on Discord keeps throwing Hampton and Bridgeman around I'll read them at some point.

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>>4073267

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>>4073231
>dude traces a touhou
What? I didn't trace shit, I drew it myself. What's your issue?
>>4073267
heres the touhou

>> No.4073280

>>4073270
I actually have tried some of the very beginning exercises in Figure Drawing Design and Invention and I feel it has helped me with proportions, I always start a drawing with gesture lines and then add construction. But I haven't drilled gestures in a while.

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>>4073274
>>4073275
pffffhahah for real everyone lost their mind for this?the absolute state of /ic/

>> No.4073286

>>4073282
literally 2 people said "nice" relax i didnt get an award

>> No.4073292

>>4073286
there was only 4 people in the server

>> No.4073295

>>4073275
cute marisa anon

>> No.4073299

>>4073280
Yeah, I should give it a try too, but first I must overcome the fact that I'm too afraid to draw anime hair.

>> No.4073300

>>4073299
anime hair is the best part tho, so fun

>> No.4073302

>>4073300
So hard and inconceivable to me.

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>>4073302
this probably won't help you cuz it's really shiddy you'd probs be better of just copying anime hair, you'll get a feel for it eventually.

Learn some of the common "macro" structures. learn a few common patterns like the "sharks" I showed. git good at depth so you can make the hair seem outwards, learn it from a few different angles maybe. Try some tests where you connect all the hairs back to the same point.

Most of all just spend time figuring it out, observing, contemplating, working through it. Although maybe you already know all this.

>> No.4073335

>>4073302
Have you watched pin2d's take on hair?
https://youtu.be/iuVGowpA_vs

>> No.4073349

>>4073335
Yes, of course I have. Their tutorials really help but they don't give me the confidence I need to do it and I have no weed atm.

:^(

Guess I'll have to break through this autistic barrier while sober.

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Standing rori study.

>> No.4073669

>>4072832
Based
>>4073085
cringe

>> No.4073688

>>4073349
Based gainswhilesober bro

>> No.4073708

>>4072834
I've never got advice from /ic/ unless I'm intentionally an asshole.

>> No.4073743
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Alright I managed to clean up the lines. Can I get some feedback?

>> No.4073777
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>>4073743
just move on dude

>> No.4073846

>>4073743
study anime hands and faces. fingers are not sausages

>> No.4073874

>>4073846
what if you like finger sausages

>> No.4073972

>>4073846
Can you elaborate more?

>> No.4074182

>>4073846
My fingers beg to differ. But yeah, her hands are too slender for finger sausages

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>>4068149

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>>4073199
>>4068149
alright anon so is this what you're trying to say?

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>>4073846
>anime hands

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Need help from GMI-anon
Cannot draw gud animes

>> No.4074788
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some quick studies

>> No.4074817

>>4074764
study anime like this guy >>4074788

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>>4074817
ok studied that guy, what next

>> No.4074827

>>4074788
is that sanae to the top right

>> No.4074834

>>4073661
loomis

>> No.4074835

>>4074824
Hope this is a joke.

>> No.4074837

>>4074835
It is.

>> No.4074838

>>4074824
HAHAHAHAHAHA OMG you made my day

>> No.4074848

>>4074838
Glad you liked it anon!

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>>4074835

>> No.4074882

>>4073661
Is she an amputee

>> No.4074887

>>4074689
you ruined the left girl

>> No.4074895

>>4074872
>>4074824
shouldn't you be studying right now?

>> No.4074901

>>4074895
yes mother

>> No.4074916

>>4074824
kek

>> No.4074917
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>>4074827
glad it's recognizable at least, yes it's my wife sanae chan.
my wrists are fucked up from doing hatching on this small screenless wacom so i rushed everything. guess i will start using a low opacity bush for doing some details and shadows

>> No.4074927

>>4074917
based. im not a sanaefag but any touhou shit is good with me. keep drawing sanae.

>> No.4074944

>>4068853
How? Study clothes, very cute, keep drawing

>> No.4074951

>>4070491
No, draw more skulls

>> No.4075035
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>touhoufags

>> No.4075147

>>4074951
Ok, thanks anon

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4075197

>>4074834
I know we all love loomis. pal, but loomis has a wide range of practices, I'm not going to relearn everything, so my artstyle changes realistic, maybe note something I'm missing and I can work on that.

>>4074882
I guess it is.

>> No.4075199

>>4075035
Also what this guy say, FUCK TOUHOU.

>> No.4075202

>>4075197
refrain from talking slack on the pros' learning technique when your art looks like that.

>> No.4075207

>>4075202
Just wait till I level up.

>> No.4075216

>>4075207
not by spending time coming up with reasons to not study anatomy with a concise construction method you won't

>> No.4075220

>>4075216
I completely understand construction methods being very important, I just dislike loomis's figure, and would prefer a pleasing one to look at.

>> No.4075225

>>4075197
>doesn't want to touch the best texts on learning how to draw because "muh style"
>literally can't draw a complete figure
if you keep this up your style is simply going to be you're a weeb who doesn't know how to draw anything. Real figure drawing isn't that different from drawing stylized anime figures.

>> No.4075227

>>4075035
>>4075199
whats the problem

>> No.4075238

>>4075197
It's ok to not like loomis or whoever but you've got to learn anatomy

>> No.4075252
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>>4075225
>>4075238
I appreciate the gamer tips, I'll just wait till I stop improving.

I'm constantly trying to learn anatomy, but If I learn too much, I end up forgetting some parts, so I'm just trying to keep readding them over and over, to try make them stick.

>> No.4075254

>>4075252
Don't be silly. You don't read about anatomy. You draw it, that's how you don't forget it.

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>>4075254
I never said I try to learn anatomy from reading it, instead I put it inside my memory palace and simplify it, so it's not noticeable.

>> No.4075269

>>4075260
so you grab the book, flip a few pages, read a few paragraphs then skip the text, look at the images, think "nice, gonna take a good hard look at this once and let's hope I don't forget it" then go watch anime.

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>>4075269
No dood, I look at an image, and draw it from different angles inside my head, then do it over and over again throughout the day till it sticks inside my head. It's my ultimate weapon.

>> No.4075285
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4075285

>>4075252
>>4075197
holy shit... how does one get this arrogant jesus christ

>> No.4075296
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4075296

>>4075278
Fucking jesus christ man, I never laughed this hard at something from 4chan that wasn't green text.
you're not gonna make it, son

>> No.4075301

>>4075278
>>4075296
Unrelated anon who refuses to take a side, but this is what Vilppu recommends. Drawing inside your head when you don't have an access to your sketchbook and then transferring it on paper. I might not agree with the attitude but his methods are far from ngmi and he actually spends his time drawing.

>> No.4075311

>>4075285
he doesn't have to accept your shitty advice just because you're "critiquing" him. your advice is as bad as his art

>> No.4075312

>>4075301
you think ngmi-anon actually uses that method? He can't read past the index in an anatomy book.

>> No.4075314

>>4075311
not my advice, but thanks for the input

>> No.4075327
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4075327

>>4075252
Not sure what you were going for. Not feeling the loli.

>> No.4075330

why are lolifags consistently the worst posters

>> No.4075345
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4075345

>>4075327
It's not soft bro and I'm still working on it.

>> No.4075359

>>4075345
Oh, now I see. Mind naming your influences? I'm also a lolifag.

>> No.4075385
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4075385

>>4075359
Tsugumomo and MiA, but tsugumomo is poo story wise.

>> No.4075392

>>4075330
>"Why are pedos retarded?"

>> No.4075555

>>4074496
KEK

>> No.4075742
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4075742

MiA turd polish.

>> No.4075850
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4075850

The closest thing to "tasteful" I could copy from this artist.

>> No.4075856

>>4075850
Stop working digitally, work traditionally until you can draw leg lines in a few strokes, not dozens.

>> No.4075882

>>4068303
Cute. This is the community that keeps me in ic, people are legitimatley working on their craft

>> No.4075926
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4075926

>>4075856
The lines are messy because it's a sketch. I want to make capture the gesture, structure, shape design and proportions are proper before I labor over perfect inked lines.

But sure. Here's a quick traditional pen drawing rendition on paper. Can I go back to digital now?

>> No.4075963

>>4075856
Anon is fine, avoiding drawing digitally does more harm than good in the long run in my opinion. You see many people who draw very well traditionally but their digital art is beyond awful. It's better to get adjusted slowly over a long time.

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4075968

>>4075856
>>4075926
Also, if you're thinking I can't get clean lines digitally, here's a little something I did april of last year in Photoshop without any stabilizers.

>> No.4076103

Crablante blown the fuck out holy shit

>> No.4076116

>>4075926
you've got glaring figure and perspective issues you need to figure out. draw more with paper because you won't be able to cheat it as easy.

>> No.4076147

>>4075850
I love this!

>> No.4076148

I'm a /beg/, going through fun with a pencil. When I'm done, is that "enough" to move on to anime?
And if so, where do I start with all the books in the OP?

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4076152

>>4076148
[email protected](You)

>> No.4076158

>>4076148
Read anatomy for sculptors

>> No.4076165

Which program do you use, guys?

>> No.4076174

>>4076148
fun with a pencil is a meme. keys to drawing and steve huston making every mark count are better places to go through.

>> No.4076210

>>4076148
Just get yourself to draw some anime already. Also this >>4076158. The book is pretty useful without explaining so much in wall of texts

>> No.4076233

>>4076174
:(
I'm finally beginning to understand the faces and you hit me with this.

>> No.4076234

>>4075850
great! whats the original picture?

>> No.4076286

>>4075856
>>4076116
Don't listen to this idiot.

>> No.4076386

>>4076165
Sai

>> No.4076407

Guys I’m not sure if I’m retarded or what but I literally can not grasp the technique or process is drawing a face in something that isn’t a front view. I’ve watched videos and tried to copy, trace, imitate heads but I just can’t do it. Am I literally fucking retarded? My heads keep looking like someone stepped on a fucking potato. If I can’t draw a fucking HEAD I don’t know what the fuck I’m going to do.

>> No.4076545

>>4076407
Post
Your
Work

>> No.4076586

>>4076407
Are you just venting or do you actually want crit

>> No.4076598
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4076598

>>4076545
>>4076586

Both, I was on my way out when I posted so I didn’t have anything. I’m not home but I’m trying to practice anywhere I can so I did this about 30 minutes ago, I figured I’d just keep trying and maybe something would click. I know the eyes are ugly as shit I was just trying to see if having something there would help me imagine what it could look like. Was drawing in different angles something that took either of you a good amount of time or am I really just not seeing something?

>> No.4076695

>>4076598
What the fuck. That's not where the eyes are. Or ears. Have you not read any books?

>> No.4076761

>>4076598
You need to understand form and space, it looks like you're just drawing lines because a guide told you so

>> No.4076796
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4076796

Okay, so I did the same pose that I drew before and I didn't learn shit even after the red line so I've got some questions.

For the head do i measure the red or green square for proportions?

Also why is it that either way if i make the ribcage larger to like 3 heads it looks super weird? Is it because the body isn't wide enough?

I also tried making the left shoulder higher up but then it seems like the armpit area is too far. I didn't make the hips wider either because I think it looked off last time I did that.

I don't really how to fix my shitty body problems. Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks.

>> No.4076803

>>4076116
>Glaring figure and perspective issues
Yeah, but the lines are clean, so none of that stuff matters, right?

>> No.4076838

>>4076695
>>4076761

This is why people don’t post their work. Anon asks for help and two retards say random shit.

>> No.4076841

>>4076838
It's not random. It might not be helpful, but they weren't really wrong, either.

Thick skin is a prerequisite to becoming an artist. Otherwise you become a Tumblr nazi.

>> No.4076845

>>4076598
You need to draw bigger if you want to improve.
Try drawing 1-2 heads per page and you'll see your mistakes way better.

>> No.4076846

>>4076838
don't try to brush that criticism off as rudeness just because you're in 4chan, those were actual valid reactions to a work.

>> No.4076851

>>4076838
>I refuse to do even the most basic of reading
>wtf why won't you spoon feed me!?!? Why can't you give me easy hacks so I don't have to learn or practice?!!? Retards!!!!!

>> No.4076876

>>4076851
>Where is my 8-steps anime head process "tutorial" that I'll save into a folder and never look at again

Have these kids heard of STUDYING? Like, when you learn by yourself about something by reverse-engineering it into a method that's most compatible with you?!!

Loomis, Hampton, Bridman, they're all just ways for you to study from life. Not solely construction methods for you to misuse when drawing from imagination then come back here to complain about how shit they are because you were shit at it.
You gonna complain this specific brand of training wheels are shit because you haven't instantly learned how to ride a bike yet? Fuck's sake.

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4076904

>>4076838
I responded like an asshole because even 20 pages of fun with a pencil would have taught anon what he's doing wrong.
I have no idea why he's diving the head the way he's doing in this face. How can I give him advice when I have no clue what he's doing, and when reading any beginner book would be more help than anything I could say?

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4076918

Shit looks fucking flat as fuck, and I was studying from an image. I took some liberty and tried to put my own spin but it still feels flat even without colors. Any advice anons? Or maybe I'm just overreacting? Feel free to rip into me, I can take it.

Think the main issues is the jawline and just overall hair shape. Eyes are wonky, but I think I can make it work if I practice a bit more.

>> No.4076926

>>4076918
the jaw is nonexistent, eyes have different heights. Head's way too big for those miniscule shoulders. The eyebrow on our right is misplaced, should be more to our left.
The irises were drawn in different angles it seems, notice how the one to our right is almost a full elipse while the other looks like half of a much larger eye.
The cheeck shouldn't be that low imo

>> No.4076929

>>4076926
I see. Thank you, if its too much can you give me a quick redline?

>> No.4076933

>>4076929
I'll try but no promises

>> No.4076934

>>4076933
its ok. i'm mostly concerned about the jaw and iris part of your post. eyes (atleast anime styled) are super tricky because I constantly look at other artists and see them do this these weird angles and all but it all works. I was trying to emulate that and see what happened.

>> No.4076950

>>4076918
The face is not flat and especially not since she's looking at an angle. Eyes need to curve.

>> No.4076953

>>4076950
Thank you for the critique. Feel free to draw over it, I'm still trying to learn eyes. They're challenging.

/ic/ is based when you ask politely for help.

>> No.4076965
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>>4076953
Tried to interpret the head angle , it came out a bit different. Don't know if it's any good.

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4076984

>>4076965
Yeah, that's way better. Damn, I fuck up jaws, huh? Time to practice that.
Source image, BTW. Just trying to practice these characters (hair styles are all the fuckin same). Hardest part for me is drawing either my left's eye first and then trying to do the right or vice versa. I can't find a even ground. Super tough.

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4076989

>>4076965
I wouldn't say my jaws are that good either but what's been helping me with the eyes is mostly taking care into the construction phase.
Might be unnecessary but I use a pseudo-skull that helps a bit, it's an easy construction method to memorize for me just to set everything up before drawing.

I got the construction method from a group of skulls I saw in the skull thread that's been going on.

>> No.4076991

>>4076989
Yeah, I haven't studied much skulls if it's obvious lol. I've studied Huston's heads and such, skulls was always tedious but I'll go do some. Seems like it's something I need right now. Other artists make it look so simple.. its just a line for the jaw.

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4076992

>>4076598
???? just do 2 lines going this way

>> No.4077033
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4077033

>>4076918
here's a really crappy redline in tegaki.

If I had to list: head shape is off. Hair could be bunched in a way that is more properly 3D. Eyes not properly 3D - but you noticed all these things already.

work with some reference - then try getting it right without the reference. You can also maybe try doing a cross of lines curving over the shape of the eyes to get them properly 3D.

>> No.4077037

>>4077033
here's a poo tutorial I made before, it might help.

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4077038

oops

>> No.4077040
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4077040

>>4076984
Have this to help you

>> No.4077043

>>4077033
Thank you. It's a maybe a bit crappy but the information displayed is very helpful. I was going off the official character sheets and the hair is so bizarrely 2D but still not flat. Eye shapes in 3D is extremely tough. Especially when a lot of artists eye dont even look 3D but still 'work'. Fuckin' weird.
>>4077038
Gonna try this, thank you.

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4077052

>>4076918
>>4076984
With the reference it's super easy to show what I meant with "her right eye should be angled". I hope it's clear.

>> No.4077057

>>4077040
holy shit thank you i was just trying to draw her for fun but i went too in deep. fucking small as references lmao
got any more like this?
>>4077052
Oh soo my eye wasn't angled enough. Thank you.

>> No.4077065

>>4077057
https://e-hentai.org/g/1110565/69a821214d/

>> No.4077078
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4077078

>>4077065
Ayy lmao

>> No.4077103

>>4077065
jfc this download takes forever do i really have to manually save it all myself

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4077146

>>4076904
>I have no idea why he's diving the head the way he's doing in this face.
Another anon, but I've seen people do this stuff in some Asian tutorials

>> No.4077160

>>4077146
What's that?

>> No.4077387

Can some of you guys please show your construction sketches. I've tried using cubes and spheres but I can never reliably translate them into cute anime girls.

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4077521

>>4077387
not mine but another guy posting this before

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