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No, it's fucking not. If it were 90% of us would be here.

Yet all these Japanese and chinese tutorials always say "it's easy".

Is that a joke? Some cultural bs?

>> No.4060315

>>4060313
Look at the image, it says you need the correct mindset.

NGMI

>> No.4060322

Japanese and particularly chinese literally made drawing anime streamlined. It's literally easy for anyone to follow. Anyone with functioning hands and some brain.

>> No.4060325

based asians

>> No.4060329

Anyone can learn to draw*

*If you have the correct mindset. If you do not, you can't learn to draw. This is the same with anything in life.

>> No.4060332

>>4060313
>Use thin brush.
>Spend 2-5 hours on lineart.
>Draw 30 or so lines and call that the hair.
>Add in anime eyes that incorporate waterbrush and blurring.
>Read the how to render book and stop rejecting it under the pretense of soul.
>Apply rendering.
>This is apparently hard.

>> No.4060333

marketing

>> No.4060337
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>>4060313
look at the asian "letters", now look at our letter, which one is easier?

subjectively, the one which you trained with, objectively, the one with only 28 variables and mostly made out from a (semi) circle or 2

"its easy" is subjective, and since they trained to consider the harder writing "easy", drawing will be easier by comparison

>but mah "I learned to write in japanse/ chinese and it did not improve my drawing"
that's because knowing to write in such a language gives you an edge over the ones who dont only when you are a beginner, if you already know how to draw it wont help you more than spending that same time drawing

somebody who does chores around the house will be a step ahead of somebody who doesnt when both start body building (he will have better balance, slightly more muscle mass, and a better discipline), but that doesnt mean a body builder will gain anything from starting to do chores around the house other than a clean house

>> No.4060340
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>>4060337
Look at this philosopher over here, doesn't he know that Asians seeing anime fanart with multi-stroke hair, cranked up rendering polish, excessive eye detail, overdesigned outfits, and large resolutions everywhere pressures them into catching up? Add in all 500 how to draw anime books and they know to sit the fuck down and copy what the book demands.
Meanwhile the west will purposefully find someone worse than them, feel better, then stunt their own improvement curve.

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>>4060340
thats also true

>> No.4060354

It's all about the mimdset. There was a study where they split a class in two and gave both of them the same test. In one class the teacher said the test is piss easy. In the other class the teacher said that the test is too hard and they will fail. Guess what? The class performed exactly like how the teacher told them even tho the playingfield was on the same level.

Drawing is hard but if approach it with a different mentality you can make it easier for you.

>> No.4060355

>>4060313
cope

>> No.4060360

>>4060313
easy to draw. hard to git gud.

>> No.4060365

>>4060329
This, I've been saying this to myself for years

Also I think approach is also important, the same approach doesn't work for everyone, it'll get you there probably 90% of the time but for that remaining 10% a different approach is gonna be more efficient for you.

>> No.4060381

>>4060313
You won't get any shekels if you tell noobs it's hard.

>> No.4060400

People put in more effort and, surprise, they try to learn harder if you make it apparent that they actually can learn from it. It's all about mindset. Ignore the bait from crabs trying to get you to doubt yourself and your learning, go draw.

>> No.4060433

>>4060313
Asians sit down to learn when they want to learn something.
You faggots keep finding excuses not to draw and demanding shortcuts, and secret knowledge. Then blame IQ and ligamemes when your not wanting to sit down and fucking draw results in you not knowing how to draw.

>> No.4060440

>>4060433
Doesn't help people on here actively bait others into doubting themselves. Literally just go draw.

>> No.4060450

>>4060313
That meme came from American instructional books in the 80s and 90s though. I mean, just look at Fun With a Pencil.

>> No.4060481

>>4060313
>Yet all these Japanese and chinese tutorials always say "it's easy".
>Is that a joke? Some cultural bs?
Objective truth Anon: Drawing really IS easy, you just SUCK!

>> No.4060485

>>4060313
>No, it's fucking not
it fucking is you poor western brainlet

>> No.4060506

>>4060433
Oh boy it's the asians discipline meme again.

>> No.4060509

>>4060506
Also ironic you're telling us we're trying to find shortcuts when shortcuts is what's being used in the Asian tutorials you're watching.

>> No.4060558

>>4060506
so prove them wrong and git gud without sitting down to learn.

>> No.4060564

>>4060558
That's not what I'm alluding to, moron. I'm pointing out your shitty belief that life is an MMORPG and that Asian people have a racial talent of 30% buff in discipline just because their eyes are slanted.

>> No.4060788

>>4060506
Well it is real, socializing = followers is neutered so all that’s left is being better than your fellow artists because Asians aren’t creative enough to not do fanart.

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>>4060788
>Well it is real
Nice evidence.

>> No.4060797

>>4060789
I realize this board is very left wing and ignores ethnicity statistics but if you open your eyes a bit and realize majority of the good art online is done by asians there is a good reason for it. Instead of talking about "mah asian discipline" we should really be uncovering Asian wealth.

You have in the thousands of students graduating out of design colleges in California every year and their placement rate for jobs is 90% or greater. Nobody is bringing this up because its raaaaycist or something? Because that's a huge reality check here. It should be 60% Caucasian in those schools. Where the hell are all these Asians funneling the money from?

>> No.4060803

>>4060789
This graph tells me what exactly? All I know is that Asian households are quiet motherfuckers and that Pixiv’s elephant comment sticker doesn’t net you followers in return.
If this is referring to Asians who were born in the states, then I’ll have you know how talkative and normalfag they are is up to probability.

>> No.4060806

>>4060803
That's art centers fall student entries. 11% are asians in the states. "international" is just codeword for more koreans and chinese without having to inflate Asian percentage. But all you really need to do is take a grand tour of the place and see it dominated by Chinese and Koreans. Each semester. Every single year.

>> No.4060809

>>4060806
>Fail BioChem.
>Dread engineering.
>Don't like the notion of code slave.
>Guess I'll draw.
Thanks for the info though.

>> No.4060816

>>4060564
their discipline buff comes with the way they EXP(education)
But everyone in the west can also do it if we stop getting carried by guild leaders and actually challenge mob 1v1
no need for class change or reroll

>> No.4060895

>>4060313
Not everyone is a smartass, cynical westerner. Some people like having a genuinely positive mindset when approaching learning.

>> No.4060931

>>4060797
Congratulations, that's the same logic that Neo Nazis use to blame muh jews!!!!!
If you're gonna complain about "The Eternal Chinaman" for the rest of your life or get why racism is stupid depends solely on your IQ now, good luck.

>> No.4060943

>>4060931
>you're lying because the statistics are lying

It's not coming from me my dude.

>> No.4060962

>>4060788
>Asians aren’t creative enough to not do fanart
it's the other way around lol. Uncreative americans have no culture so they take anything "exotic" from an asian country and claim it as original

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>>4060816
Yeah asian education and discipline is superior hence why most asian countries are still 3rd world tier, and even the good ones Japan and Korea have declining/stagnant economies

>> No.4061026

>>4061024
We're not talking about Asian education. This is education in the states not China or whatever. If their education is so great why are they all coming HERE to learn? Are you guys being willfully ignorant?

>> No.4061028

>>4060962
Again if we have no culture why the hell are they coming here to learn from Americans?

>> No.4061035

>>4061026
>>4061028
Communism, leaving home wasn’t a choice. A Nip who happens to be in your college class only happens during Blue Moons.

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>>4061028
Here is another school which is LAAFA. "Two or more ethnic" is just codeword for, again, international students who are >>>ASIAN<<< just to level out the stats. Again, if their education is so good why the fuck are they coming over here to learn?

>> No.4061039

>>4061035
A hell of alot more Japanese come to europe and america to study than vice versa

>> No.4061052

>>4061039
California is Vietnamese, Chinese, occasional Koreans, and occasional Thai. Nips don't exist here.

>> No.4061057

>>4061035
How are they paying for it. If they're oh so oppressed how are they affording it?

>> No.4061060

>>4061052
there are about 1,304,286 Japanese Americans, which includes 763,325 Japanese Americans with pure Japanese ancestry, according to the 2010 census.

>> No.4061063

>>4060797
>but if you open your eyes a bit
i can't tho, i'm asian

>> No.4061064

>>4061063
You funny. I drop atomic on you last.

>> No.4061067

>>4060943
>statistics are lying
"Fall 2011: 11% Asian" is all the statistics are saying though.

>> No.4061070

>>4061067
Source? Did you forget to include international numbers? Surely AC isn't running around full of Indians and Russians less they'd move away from tech scamming and more of an industry of their own in their own country.

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4061103

>>4060313
>learning to draw from weeb shit

>> No.4061309

>>4061057
How the heck is anyone affording 50k a year?

>> No.4061343

>>4061309
I dunno, ask the chinks who ran away from communism how they can afford it.

>> No.4061413

>>4061103

Suck on a cock capefag.

>> No.4061440

>>4061343
Their parents are more willing to destroy their own health so the kids can get the Bachelors degree meme. A true testament to good work ethic.

>> No.4061452

>>4061038
>>4061028
If you meant university then yes, your univs are one of the best but that's just it. Other than that, the people and the rest of the culture are all trash

>> No.4061465

>>4061440

press x to doubt

>> No.4061474

>>4060340
>they know to sit the fuck down and copy what the book demands.
No need to be personal, bro.

>will purposefully find someone worse than them, feel better, then stunt their own improvement curve.
That's it. Let's take it outside!

>> No.4061478

>>4061440

This isn't true at all you stupid faglord.

>> No.4061494

The only culture amerifats have are obesity and shooters

>> No.4061500

>>4061478

There needs to be some kind of VICE investigation on Asian wealth. There is more to the story that Americans just aren't getting. It's evidence that this communism meme isn't going to mask these yellow skinned rice makers for much longer. Asian people are the silent majority in the arts and it's a monopoly for a hidden reason beyond "discipline".

>> No.4061502

>>4061500
Not only that but Andrew Yang is probably in favor of his own people when they're doing far better than Americans in their own country from just this sampled field of study. They've successfully kept themselves on the down low all this time.

>> No.4061503

>>4061500
Asians have smaller bodies -> They eat less -> They spend less.
There, I saved you 5 hours.

>> No.4061510

>>4061503

They eat smaller portions but they still have to buy the same inflated foods as the rest of the Americans. Still not an excuse when there are programs here to get free food if Chinese are oppressed by their tyrannical government.

>> No.4061513

>>4061510
You haven’t seen that person who buys 2 Big Macs for her lard self plus 3 packs of fries I take it.

>> No.4061629

>>4060564
Asians have a cultural buff to learning, so do germans.
It has nothing to do with race, and all to do with your pandering, coddling culture that made you think yourself too important to be inconvenienced by having to try hard to be good at anything.

>> No.4062304

>>4061024
logical fallacy
false cause

>> No.4063106

>>4061024
Most of america's wealth is not created through work.