/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4058978]

A year ago today, I decided to give up on grinding and I took the easy route by tracing 3D models and photos.
I even kept the date to record my progress.

Needless to say, I am not going to post my progress, it is too embarrassing.
Instead, I am going to tell you, that I should have just spent that year grinding. I would have grown so much more.
To warn newbies that are considering falling to the dark side. Don't do it. Not worth it. I wasted an entire year I'm not going to get back. Now I'm ready to walk the correct path, from square one.

[Anonymous No.4059020]

It took you one entire year to realize that?

[Anonymous No.4059022]

>>4058978
Is it true anon? Then we pretty much share the same artist aniversary! I started on August 10, 2018 but I did begin by grinding like a normal person.
After a few months I felt my progress was too slow and on december I tried tracing 3D models.. I even made a thread talking about how this was the future of art; and got promptly BTFO'd by the good artists of /ic/. Some anon challenged me to actually try to draw what I was seeing on my model and I tried to reference it only to meet failure. Then the anon actually used construction to create a nice cowboy and gave me good advice since I tried.

I wish you had seen that thread back then on December. 3D models are for artist who are already good or prodigies of some kind.

[Anonymous No.4059045]

>>4058978
stupid frogposter

[Anonymous No.4059067]

>>4059022

Lol even the 3d model is /beg/

[Anonymous No.4059115]

I don't understand why anyone would willingly use a 3d model, except if you're, maybe under a time constraint and must get it out as quickly as possible.
It just seem to take out all the fun in drawing, when you use 3d models in such way.

[Anonymous No.4059116]

>>4059115
It's no different than using photographic reference, assuming the 3d model is good. Problem with most of these pose apps is that the models don't deform correctly and don't actually provide that useful information. But for accurate shadows and geometry it's very useful

[Anonymous No.4059118]

>>4059115
>>4059116
And I repeat, I'm sure this is only useful for pros who already know anatomy and shading AND who also need to draw tons of different characters, like mangakas or comic artists.

A regular illustrator has no real need for it

[Anonymous No.4059123]

>>4058978
Nice bait

[Anonymous No.4059238]

>>4058978
did you deconstruct the references or just trace over the contours? that probably would have helped
not only that, but deconstructing and then moving your deconstructed shapes into a different pose is also helpful

I'm probably going to do something similar, just without the 3D models and stuff

[Anonymous No.4059264]

>>4059118

You mean a real illustrator like James Gurney?

[Anonymous No.4059344]

if u dont use garrys mod for all your refs youre ngmi

[Anonymous No.4060621]

>>4058978
post em reeeee

[Anonymous No.4061466]

uhh yeah, if youre tracing the contour youre literally not learning anything. this should have been obvious

[Anonymous No.4061469]

I was watching a Jap steamer yesterday and he just drew the face and plopped a 3D model on top of it for the illustration and it came out just fine.

[Anonymous No.4061481]

>>4058978
you are kinda retarded op, tracing need some fundies.

i started tracing 3d models around 2 months ago and now i have 11k followers on twitter.

there are some tricks you need to know, not just directly tracing everything you see.

anyway, now that i trace i can spot artists who do it, as i said, they are some ways to hide it, but i guess you didnt had the talent to make it.

[Anonymous No.4061490]

>>4059264
Yeah, Gurney would literally make his own sculptures and maquettes by hand to use as reference for understanding perspective and lighting.

Keyword is reference, not something to trace over

[Anonymous No.4061585]

>>4061481
>that butthole stretch

[Anonymous No.4061764]

>>4059022
your thread was so stupid i never clicked on it >>3732374

[Anonymous No.4061766]

>>4061481
I think you should work on your back/shoulder anatomy, that are looks very odd in your drawing.

[Anonymous No.4061769]

>>4061764
Holy hell anon, you really found it, I'm impressed. You should still click on threads if the subject is related to what you do, never know what you'll find.

I'm still nowhere near the cowboy that anon drew though.

[Anonymous No.4062091]

>>4061769
Yikes.

[Anonymous No.4062097]

>>4062091
Don't yikes me

[Anonymous No.4062103]

>>4061769
yiiiikes

[Anonymous No.4063246]

>>4058978
Legitimately how fucking stupid are you?

[Anonymous No.4065629]

>>4061481
Nice, blog?

[Anonymous No.4065633]

>>4058978
>Instead, I am going to tell you, that I should have just spent that year grinding. I would have grown so much more.
How do you know this if you have not even done it? Can you see into alternate realities and timelines? Also Pyw otherwise you are just talking shit.

[Anonymous No.4067565]

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[Anonymous No.4069932]

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[Anonymous No.4069945]

Good job, now start drawing from life like someone who isn't a fucking retard

[Anonymous No.4069949]

>>4058978
tracing is not really good, what you have to do is put he image on the side and copy by looking, never by actual trace, i mean put the image in low oppacity and copy on top. You gain nothing from that, and in the end you just will comeback to the model or reference to copy again.
The point of copy is that you learn from that and then you don't need to comeback. That's why a 3d model... if know how to correct pose it, is good is you dont have a photo reference, or you can't figure out of to build certain pose or whatever, is for that, for figure out, then by repeating some times you will not need it anymore.

[Anonymous No.4071828]

>>4059344
Thanks anon

[Anonymous No.4071840]

I just got a lightboard so I'm doing some tracing with it. I learn a bit about the construction but not line fidelity. Manga undoubtedly utilizes lightboards extensively

[Anonymous No.4071843]

I think that a lot of the Bakshi films made with those rotoscoping machines are pure art

[Anonymous No.4071848]

Scrub here. When someone says grind fundamentals what do they mean exactly?

I'm pretty good at grinding combos in fighting games, I can just keep grinding and grinding until I get it right. Is it like that?

[Anonymous No.4071859]

>>4071848
YUP!

[Anonymous No.4071861]

>>4071859
But what am I grinding specifically?

[Anonymous No.4071863]

>>4071861
Typically we humans tend to grind what we love.

[Anonymous No.4071870]

>>4071861
Start with what you can grind for a few hours at a time.

[Anonymous No.4073285]

>frogposters arnt retar-