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1. When you start making NSFW art never ever take requests. You want to brand yourself as a premium artist. And if your followers think they can get requests out of you, they won't pay.

2. Instead of taking requests make a sockpuppet account. Do a "commission" for the puppet. This will make you more desirable.

>> No.4044507

>>4044502
how many nsfw artists do this already?

>> No.4044517
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4044517

Sometimes I post personal works as commissions for anonymous client, kek, it works sometimes people commission me just because of that fake work.

>> No.4044520

>>4044502
>premium artist
huh weren't you talking about nsfw?

>> No.4044522

>>4044517
A pro-gamer move

>> No.4044524

>>4044517
I mean its just a free advertisement, nothing wrong with that.

>> No.4044530

>>4044520
>theres no premium on NSFW

you must be retarded

>> No.4044536

>>4044517
based anon. GMI.

>>4044507
maybe half of them when starting out. I see a lot of them shoot themselves in the foot by doing a bunch of requests. Then they get surprised when all they get are requests. All they did was amass a fanbase that won't pay and will wait for you to get frustrated and open up requests again.


Another NSFW tip is that YCH auctions with multiple characters sell big.
Clients pay extra for the idea they can pull some strange trim.

>> No.4044642

Do you make a NSFW and SFW account or just an account and post both?
I plan on selling stuff at cons and was not sure if having a joint account would effect my sales.
Also when friends and such ask if you have somewhere you post your art and all you draw is mostly smut do you still give them your info? Or do you make up an excuse like that you don't post anything online?
Thanks for any insight!

>> No.4044648

>>4044502
How do I steal this fucking nigger's style? I always thought it was just the highlights but with each year he escapes my grasp more

>> No.4044654

>>4044648
It's the use of negative space of the drawings, literally negative space gives most of the life to an ilustration, thats what I learned from top draftmans.

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>>4044648
Just always draw in 3/4 view.

>> No.4044666

>>4044648
for real I need to learn how to do minimal shading like that

>> No.4044672

>>4044642
It's best to make a different distant account that people can't possibly link together if you're gonna show it to friends and family

>> No.4044698

.>>4044642

>Or do you make up an excuse like that you don't post anything online?

I would not give them my info if most of my work was nsfw. But since I draw mostly sfw I link them to my artstation. It's good to have one.

Two different accounts definitely. When keeping them connected, advancing your SFW career becomes HARD MODE.

Pen names and pseudonyms for me anon. Below quotes are from a resetera thread.

>What I've read/heard from professional artists who know people in that scene is that it's a double edged sword:

>You can make a lot of money and a name pretty fast, but it's basically impossible to transition into anything else after the fact. Your porn fans will show up at cons and in your social media and drive away any other fans you try to attract.

>This is why I've yet to take the plunge. I would use a pseudonym but I still fear people figuring out its me if I ever manage to get a legit career going.

>artists have a fingerprint. Even if you changed the name on your piece, unless you change the way you draw, someone can make the connection. Doesn't mean they will, but hey..

>Still, it's a one-person porn operation and there's a never ending thirst. If you're even mildly talented you can get some money out of it. It's also undeniably good practice since you're doing a lot of anatomy, and if you're ambitious you're doing some unorthodox angles and poses, maybe with multiple figures.

>> No.4044703

>>4044517
Thought of doing that, too. But i'm even scared of using references because i believe i will be found out and kill off my career even before it starts

>> No.4044708

>>4044703
Is that meant to imply you're also afraid they might find out it's not a commission? Cause that's impossible.

>> No.4044712

>>4044648
I think his patreon gives the source files for his images for $10. that might help you.


Another tip for NSFW artists:

> I know who've gone the whole "porn art under a pseudonym" route have found themselves devalued the moment they started to get steady stuff because the public finds a way to get it for free.
>This is usually combatted by offering more creative control to patreons at higher donation tiers, but that generally forces burnout on artists and often results in very bad subjects of interest or worse...bad art because you gave up control to folks who have ZERO sense of how to manage color, angles, body language, or anything that makes an image compelling. Smart artists offer votes and tier lock them and only put up ideas of their own or popular suggestions that keep coming up they sorta vetted and tweaked in their head for potential.

above is the main reason I don't take commissions from plebs. patreon voted subject matter is the way to go.

>> No.4044714

>>4044708
I mean, i can't go around thinking people are stupid. Better to overestimate than underestimate.
Also it feels good being honest even when honesty doesn't earn you shit.

>> No.4044716

>>4044703
>impostor syndrome
Don't worry anon unless it's traced you don't have anything to worry about

>> No.4044721

>>4044648
its sketchy lines with airbrush + blur.
SAI niggers have is so fucking easy.

>> No.4044730
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I was thinking about making a discord only to customers where they get added after they buy me a com/ych/adopt. They would get especial monthly raffle sketchs and the more they buy the more discounts they get. Is this a good idea to create a solid customer base before getting famous enough for a patreon?

>> No.4044736

>>4044730
that's a great idea.
just don't get too friendly with them. Some customers can be creepy and entitled, so be careful with discord chats.

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Also, is it a good idea to have two NSFW accs unlinked. One for more vanilla stuff and the other for loli/shota/fetishes? I found out furries are kinda of moralfags, they don't care about fapping to dogs but if they look underage you can lose your entire fanbase over drama.

>> No.4044754

Mildy successful furry porn artist here, I'll throw my two cents in

>>4044502
This is somewhat true, taking requests can build a reputation of one who does free art and this will attract such leeches, but it depends on how you go about it. Doing requests for some people is fine, as long as they're not a leech. Don't advertise it was a free request, you don't need to post it as a commission, just post the art.
In my experience, clients don't care whether you've done comms or not, they just want your art

>>4044536
ych's sell big but fuck them, I'm sick of seeing them, have some dignity

>>4044642
depends on what you draw, the furry fandom is porn, there's no point in making a sfw account
Draw a few generic portraits of pets and show them that if irl friends ask about your art

>>4044648
Post your attempt and we'll tell you where you're falling short

>>4044698
many furry artists work as concept artists and the like, nobody seems to care, artists are weird, as long as you keep it out of your work art there's no problem, just use a fake a name and don't make a big deal out of it


My tips are
>draw what you like
If all you wanted was money you'd have become an engineer, you're in this game because you love it, don't compromise

>don't draw weird stuff thinking it'll make you money
It does, but there's few clients and it's incredibly niche, and you probably don't like it. The most money is actually in mainstream fetishes, that's where there are thousands of clients

>don't worry about being safe with charging money, you are never safe
paypal will never side with you, you can provide no sufficient proof that the transaction is legit, a client can chargeback within a window of 6 months and there's nothing you can do about it.
Just charge some money upfront to make sure the client actually even has money to begin with and forget about the rest, the best you can do is pick your clients more carefully

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>>4044752
yup. furries care about morals somehow apparently. diives was ambiguous about the age of this character and got banned from furry sites for it. he used to be popular on those sites too.

>> No.4044774

>>4044754
thanks for this contribution anon.


>If all you wanted was money you'd have become an engineer, you're in this game because you love it, don't compromise

i think this is the most important point.

>> No.4044789

>>4044774
Whenever i see a thread of people wanting to draw furshit just for money i laugh, my weeb friends can't even watch the best drawn furporn without wanting to block me.

>> No.4044795

>>4044761
>diives was ambiguous about the age
all he does is make borderline lolis

>> No.4044796

>>4044789
lol. the "easy" money from the fanbase is a siren's song. not worh it unless you were always a furry. but if any anons here actually enjoy making monstergirls or furries there's a chance for them.

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>>4044520
>kills your argument

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>>4044796
You need to have a great knowledge of the fandom if you don't wanna fuck it up, again, they are huge moralfags

>> No.4044821

>>4044804
>inb4 crabs flod the bank and try to rip minor anatomic mistakes this guy makes apart

>> No.4044823

>>4044754
>don't draw weird stuff thinking it'll make you money

But but furry is werid?
I guess you mean the werid thats deep down the rabbithole?
As far as i know futanari is werid but is generally accepted or at least by weebs

>> No.4044849

>>4044530
No I was implying that nsfw is not art

and definitely not "premium art" lmao how dense can you be retard

>>4044804
ugh if anything it enforces the argument tenfold

>> No.4044854

>>4044849
>if I don't like it then is not art

Go back read your manga, boy.

>> No.4044865

>>4044849
it's fine if you don't want to call it premium. my advice from the op was that you should brand yourself as an artist of quality. there's trash amateur nsfw and then there's the elite. the slugboxes, and mike inels of the art world.

>>4044807
what more is there to know? Being active in their forums should do it?

>> No.4044867

If I get a furry booth at a con and I'm really good can I get cute catgirl boi to suck my dick?

>> No.4044971

>>4044754
is there any other way to receive payment?
i want to make some extra spending money but i really don't want to use paypal and give out my name and email to random people and have it tied to furry art

is asking for giftcards as payment a bad idea? are there other options?

>> No.4044976

>>4044971
biz account on pp

>> No.4044985

>>4044804
this guy is one of thew few porn artists that i can actually call premium

>> No.4044991

>>4044971
paypal biz yeah.
use invoices only
and never write what are you doing.

"commission work." or similar.

what about crypto

>> No.4044997

>>4044502
am i the only one that want to be an erotic artist because i enjoy drawing lewds ?

>> No.4045005

>>4044997
every single artist draws lewds
it's just some want to be paid for it

>> No.4045007

>>4045005
why would you not get paid for something you're good at ?

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>>4044976
this

>>4044971

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>>4044761

ARGH SO CUTE

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do you think hentai will ever be displayed in museums? i mean erotic art has always been accepted in these places, including Michelangelo because he's a raging fag, so would it be possible to trick the normies into displaying our cartoon porn?

>> No.4045265 [DELETED] 

>>4044761
I know I'm gonna be called an autist for this but I literally fucking hate that shit. why can't an artist draw whatever the fuck they want? If i want to draw a newborn baby getting fucked to death by a wherewolf I should be able to. I pay my taxes. I have no criminal record not do I have any intention to harm any real under aged children. The only reason i like art is because i get to do whatever the fuck I want with my talent. i get to draw whatever twisted fantasy comes to mind. Fuck anyone who tries to take that away from you.

>> No.4045267 [DELETED] 

>>4044761
>I know I'm gonna be called an autist for this but I literally fucking hate that shit. why can't an artist draw whatever the fuck they want? If i want to draw a newborn baby getting fucked to death by a wherewolf I should be able to. I pay my taxes. I have no criminal record not do I have any intention to harm any real under aged children or animals. The only reason i like art is because i get to do whatever the fuck I want with my talent. i get to draw whatever twisted fantasy comes to mind. Fuck anyone who tries to take that away from you.

>> No.4045271

>>4044761
I know I'm gonna be called an autist for this but I literally fucking hate that shit. why can't an artist draw whatever the fuck they want? If i want to draw a newborn baby getting fucked to death by a wherewolf I should be able to. I pay my taxes. I have no criminal record not do I have any intention to harm any real under aged children or animals. The only reason i like art is because i get to do whatever the fuck I want with my talent. i get to draw whatever twisted fantasy comes to mind. Fuck anyone who tries to take that away from you.

>> No.4045274

>>4045267
that's what happens when you have no real freedom and your cuck country is ruled by Christians and SJW that don't follow your 1 and 2n amendment

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>>4045213
cute enough to get banned for


>>4045236
nah WW3 will happen way before that happens.
and good taste in hentai anon.

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>>4045310

i hope you know that you're making nofap VERY difficult for me rn

>> No.4045365

>>4044754
>I'm sick of seeing them,
i had no idea what they were until the thread about fur porn. theyre like 90% of furaffinity's front page browsing.

>> No.4045368

>>4045236
art is never chaste

>> No.4045377

>>4044754
>have some dignity
>furry artist
Why? They're easy money, and if you're drawing furry porn you're already pretty degenerate anyways.

>> No.4045381

>>4045344
sorry anon. good on you for maintaining willpower

>> No.4045427

Do you guys do this?:
send invoice for 50% of commish price
Sketch and refine til client approves
Send invoice for remaining 50%
Send finished product

>> No.4045440

Anyone got a story about the first time that they did a commission here?

>> No.4045453

>>4044502
>>4044536
I do free requests every month. Every time I do them, I get a few more patrons because of that.

Free requests absolutely never hindered my commissions and art career. If anything they helped.

>> No.4045480

>>4045427
same.

>>4045453
good to know. which site do you get the requests from? twitter?

>> No.4045508

>>4045236
museum art needs subtetly, so no, not in million fuckin years
I can see some comfy cute waifu pin-up making it there at some point tho

>> No.4045600

>>4045480
I take requests on stream (picarto.tv). I announce the day I will do them in advance on twitter.

>> No.4045742

>>4045271
You can draw whatever you want, but dont blame people for not wanting to see your sonichu porn oc, fampai.

>> No.4045785

>>4045377
Where do you get this idea that drawing furry porn is easy money?
do the math yourself, there's no money here unless you're the top 1% of popular furries

How many commissions can you do a week? one, two?
that's between 50-80 commissions a year and most people do about 30-40
How much can you charge for a commission? $200? $300? you're gonna have to get pretty big to go anywhere beyond that
that alone barely takes you to a little over minimum wage assuming you're working full time
Patreon is only gonna add an extra $3000 a year, more or less, likely less.

You won't be making any money at cons for a long time, it costs alot to go to a con and people only buy prints from people they know.

It's easy to get commissions, but there aren't many furries lining up to spend $1000 on a commission unless you're an absolute giant in the fandom

>> No.4045797

>>4045310
wtff

>> No.4046024

>>4045785
>people only buy prints from people they know.
Is that true? Usually most people I know just buy something if it looks cool or cute or has characters they like on it.

>> No.4046181

>>4046024
There are two kinds of commissioners
those with money, and those without but who still buy art

The poor ones just want art, they don't care who it's from as long as it's affordable
The ones with money want specific artists, they're the ones who can afford prints that the frame and put on their walls

>> No.4046204

>>4044517

I do this all the time. Super obvious and easy way to

a) monetize personal work or studies
b) make people aware of the fact that you do commissions

good on you anon. you would think everyone would do this, but most artists are dumb af.

>> No.4046208

>>4044703

I do nothing but trace and nobody has ever come close to finding out.

>> No.4046242

>>4045236
Ooyari Ashito art has been displayed at museums.

>>4045271
You have the right to it as much as sites and people have the right to not support your degeneracy.

>> No.4046244

>>4044502
>NSFW art industry
lmao what

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>>4045785
Thx math anon but the real money is in making porn games and getting patreon bucks. learn to code wasnt a meme. making porn games is where it's at.

>> No.4046317

>>4046244
actually not.
In the major of cases is worst, because you are making fast short movements, short range shit, the ligaments and muscles are exhausted, so you ended with more, prolonged pain

>> No.4046326

>>4046283
yeah the real shit is in games, you dont even need learn much in the subject to make simple ones, and even with that ones if your art is good, you gain a lot more attention than with regular drawings, the more close thing to that is making animation gifs, but all can be in the same route, you can easly learn how to make decent animations, and put them in the games, it just add quality to the thing.

>> No.4046357 [DELETED] 

>>4045785
>How many commissions can you do a week? one, two?
No lol. I get at least three on a commission stream, $50 for a clean sketch. I guess you're not very successful yourself?

>> No.4046372

>>4045785
>assuming you're working full time
I'm not, I do it as a side thing for some quick cash and simply because I like drawing furry porn. I'm also not from the states so the cost of living isn't as high here. So most of what you typed doesn't really apply to me. It's still easy money for me though, $300 for autobuy on a YCH is pretty feasible for my skill.

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>>4046326
>the more close thing to that is making animation gifs

this too. Diives is making a pretty penny on tease animations alone.

>put them in the games

exactly. if you can animate, you can easily learn renpy to make a visual novel game.

>> No.4046664

>>4046283
>>4046382
Being prolific and having appealing art is what you need. It doesn't really matter if you do animations, games, or plain and simple artworks.

>> No.4046725

Should you watermark your works?
I'm not talking patreon and stuff just your name in small font in the corner.

>> No.4046772

>>4046725
I think, yes, that it is necessary if your goal is to gain visits and followers, it is almost common sense, although you can make accounts in each place where visual content is uploaded, in general there are always places where you do not have an account or you dont participate, and people upload things there. There are places where other people publish your work, where they link your accounts, but not in others , like facebook where if they don't put the name of the artist you stay in the air... or tumblr if they not reblog).
If you dont have an account there, then is necessary, because you don't know where your image are going to be.
I saw for example my images in places that i dind't even know that existed, like porn normie sites for only images, weird blogs, even in "know your meme" (that day i just learn that they upload normal images there like nothing, dont even has to be memes, and a lot of people see them, for my luck in the ones that i saw the guy who upload the work put a link to my account).
Just make sure that your mark is not invasive in the image, and is enough flexible to put them in black and in whit at least, so you don't have to worry about divert the spotlight a lot, Some people use elaborate and quirky signatures, but I think something more modest and simple is enough.

>> No.4046775

>>4046664
i think that plain artwork won't cut it as much as it used to. Plain art market is already flooded, but there are only a handful of good porn animators and game devs.

>> No.4046790

>>4046775
yeah, is much about creativity, than technical skill.
To add to the animation and game thing. I want to show one game in newgrounds that for me is the perfect example of al this:
https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/705671

is called "Happiness is In The Field", just look the game, is a ultra basic click & point game, with even more basic drawing, that i can put my hands on fire for that the guys here on /ic/ can draw with no effort, and the guys just made 70.000 views for that, and a patreon with almost $400, he has olders works, but is the same or even lower quality.
For me that is the fundamental proof that it is not about the technique, but about the concept, the feeling, if the work feels good, it will succeed in its own way.

If you also learn some basic music composition, you can make really interesting things. I have put that game too because i find that with only one track you can make the ambient of all the game, some short games dont even have music, like those porn scenes things, that are more an "interactive gif" than a game, literally make some basic animations and put some buttons in adobe flash to go to the next scene.

>> No.4046799

>>4046790
even more far beyond. I have found people who make games of this same type of "short sex scenes", with YCH-style characters, so they make a "base" animation in which they only copy and adjust the character of the person who pays to appear in the "game".
I saw one in newgrounds in which the person had put as 30 characters or more, all commissions, in the game. Unfortunately i don't remember the name if i remembered it i would show it to you guys.
That simple can be the work on that.

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>>4046790
his patreon is looking sad now

good advice on learning music.

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if you do passable 3d art you can make 37k a month

>> No.4046943

>>4044517
I’ll do requests for personal friends and just put a price tag on it.

>> No.4046949

>>4044703
>Afriad of using references
Nigga don’t listen to the crabs here.
Use references. trace and make it your own.
Copying is literally an artist’s greatest tool and not using it only gimps yourself

>> No.4046955

>>4046949
I dunno, i've been doing pretty great without relying too much on copying.
Won't that screw you over in the long run, though?

>> No.4046957

>>4045427
Yes that’s exactly how I do it
8/10 are completely fine with it

>> No.4046963

>>4046957
what about the other 2/10 faggots? do they turn out to be scammers?

>> No.4046969

>>4046955
Nah the literal greats started their entire careers by copying then later moving on to original pieces after a few years

Drawing is 80% muscle memory, 10% visualization and 10% imagination
Even if you suck at everything else except muscle memory you can be a good artist.

Famous?
Probably not those are Great artists

But you can draw a cute girl practically on command and that’s pretty cool

>> No.4046977

>>4046963
Yeah or worse
>Oh sorry I found my nephew to do it for cheaper!
And to those people just say fuck ‘em and not waste your time

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>>4046969
So, can i draw like this if i trace?

>> No.4047008

>>4046994
Drawing like that is literally easy mode.

>> No.4047016

>>4047008
But, Anon, that's one of the most successful artists right now?
How can that be easy? I don't understand.

>> No.4047017

>>4046994
You will never be as good or as successful as ilya

>> No.4047021

>>4047016
I meant artistivally, it requieres almost no skills, he just marketed himself very well, and his followers are newbies and weeaboos with no art knowledge basically, thats the easy part.

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>>4047017
uhm, say that again, sweetie

>> No.4047027

>>4046994
Yes
Will you be famous for it? Nope.
Will you impress your friends and get cheap sub 100$ commissions?
Sure go for it.
I just say use it for practice and don’t expect it to carry you to greatness
It won’t

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>>4046775
I made it pretty big (for my standards) with plain art without animations and games.
Literally all you have to do is promote yourself by creating as much exposure as possible. You can achieve this by posting almost every day on socials and having at least decent art.
Hard work is what pays off, not trying to come up with a way to work as little as possible.

>> No.4047034

>>4047026
I don’t have to, you can read my post as much as you want

>> No.4047036

>>4047032
Yeah, but all you do is draw anime tiddies, it's a no brainer you get weebbux.

>> No.4047037

>>4047036
Maybe you should read the title of the thread again. :D

>> No.4047039

>>4047032
Just still remember to market yourself

Even professional artist if they were to post in a /beg/ thread they’d be ripped apart for not remembering their basic fundamentals, same faces, etc

Find your niche and expand it

>> No.4047043
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>>4044502
Can I make it as a furry porn artist? I've never drawn animal heads before :^)

>> No.4047046

>>4047032
Hey bbc, how did you manage to move to doing art full time? didnt you have to hold down a job? also, what do you do if you dont have a new finished piece of art to post every day? i have no idea what to post on socials if i dont have art to show, i dont know what to say.

>> No.4047049

>>4047046
he said almost every day, you COULD post a rough sketch every day but you want quality over quantity

>> No.4047050

>>4047037
>things you should know when going nsfw
Anon-chan, pls. I'm not going off topic.
Getting a brute to pay for anime tiddies is ez mode.

>> No.4047057

>>4047050
I don't get it. Are you saying anime style is why I get support?
That couldn't be further from the truth.
The only reason I get support is because of how active I am.

>> No.4047059

>>4047057
>Are you saying anime style is why I get support?Pretty much >>4047021
>The only reason I get support is because of how active I am.
And because you draw anime tiddies
Why are you so ashamed to accept it?

>> No.4047063

>>4047046
I've started out as a mainstream domestic artist and then transitioned to NSFW doing art only for foreign customers, cause the conditions of getting paid better and faster were far too good for me to stick to my old ways.
I went with NSFW simply because I landed a long term gig drawing porn comics.
Once I realized I am good at drawing this kind of stuff, I stick with it.

>> No.4047066

>>4047032
excellent advice.
I haven't been on ic for years so i am surprised to see you here, glad I made this thread. Congrats man

>> No.4047070
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>>4047059
My style is not "just anime".
I have a pretty broad range of styles.
Unless you consider pic attached to be anime too, then I agree lol.

>> No.4047074

>>4047059
lack of self-reflection is a mark of a bad artist

>> No.4047076

>>4047063
Fair enough I just want to do Lolis until the sun burns out

>> No.4047077
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4047077

>>4045310
Is there any special trick for animating or is it really just drawing about 8-10 frames and stitching them together?
And special program?
I liked doing this effect but I just pieced together three versions of the same pic with different lightning on a gif website and there were a fuckton of quality loss and issues. And actually erasing parts of the body to for example move their hands and then having to recolor it ... and have the rest of the body react to it... and then color and shade over the new poses again.. for a dozen of new frames.. it looks too tiresome.
But I'm still interested. Though I should probably get better at regular artwork first before trying to get big with the toughest choice... man now I want to do a Visual Novel what a cool world

>> No.4047080

>>4047070
>Oversimplified shapes and faces
>"not just anime"
>then I agree lol
boy, i'm not attacking you, i'm just trying you to make you and the other pornfags self-aware
Anime tiddies/selling out is easy mode.
Most nsfw aritst would ngmi hard if they didn't do porn
>>4047074
exactly, fellow primate

>> No.4047092

>>4047080
I didn't get your messages as an attack. I'm just confused by the fact that you think anime has anything to do with any artist's success. I just think style has little value compared to how much you promote when it comes to building a following.
There's a ton of people out there that like anime, and there's a ton of people that like other stuff.

>Most nsfw aritst would ngmi hard if they didn't do porn
Ok, are we talking about the style, or the fact that I draw NSFW?
It's hard to understand what you are trying to say with your cryptic 4chan speak.

Of course NSFW is easy mode.

That's probably why EVERY single artist out there that draws porn is making it.

>> No.4047094

>>4047080
if it's so easy why don't you do it then?
morals?

>> No.4047095

>>4047092

80/20 rule applies to nsfw too
only the cream of the crop
>>4046928

>> No.4047102

>>4047095
Of course it does. You have to work hard if you want to make it. NSFW or not.
Now you are finally understanding my point.

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>>4047092
>I just think style has little value compared to how much you promote when it comes to building a following.
>It's hard to understand what you are trying to say with your cryptic 4chan speak.
>Of course NSFW is easy mode.
>That's probably why EVERY single artist out there that draws porn is making it.
you understand big yikes, though?
>>4047094
>morals?
>Inb4 current year morals bad
I like my soul and don't want to desensitize myself from sex and become a degenerate porn addict thankyouverymuch
>>4047102
bigger yikes

>> No.4047107

>>4047080
>Oversimplified shapes and faces
This is called stylized art. More precisely simplification. Anime has nothing to do with it.
Do you call anime everything that is simplified and cartoony?

>> No.4047109

>>4047077
Literally that’s it
You’ll also notice characters won’t move only their mouth does
Plus there’s a lot of work on into animation
There’s 24 frames per 1 second of cartoon

>> No.4047110

>>4047106
Oh, so you are just a shitposter that doesn't like NSFW artists.
Okay.

>> No.4047111

>>4047107
>Do you call anime everything that is simplified and cartoony?
Ye so does the consumer base.
Everything has become fucking anime.

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>>4047110
>because you say stuff i disagree with you must be X
>thus your arguments are not valid
>chekmemait shiteposter
I duno tryin to brek the ai is fun

>> No.4047116

>>4047077
cool effect anon

The biggest factor is using the correct programs. You should be using adobe animate to animate, and to export the animations too. Using websites for the process destroys your art.

>> No.4047118

>>4047102
im a different anon actually not the one you were talking to

>> No.4047119

Are you guys prepared for the upcoming Patreon/payment processor porn bans?

>> No.4047121

>>4047118
Yeah, sure. Who is going to believe that?

>> No.4047122

>>4047113
You are just wasting people's time. That's all.
You say drawing NSFW is yikes.
And I can totally respect that, but what is your goal with that?
Obviously whoever draws NSFW doesn't feel that way.

I'm trying to have a normal conversation with people in here, giving my opinion about my experience with NSFW art and all you can do is go yikes.
It's dumb of you to expect anybody will take you seriously if you speak like that.

>> No.4047127

>>4047119
Yup. My patrons already told me they'd keep supporting even if I had to make my Patreon SFW. I'm pretty sure it's the same for all other Patreon creators that have a hardcore following.

Also, there are other venues for making money from smut art.

>> No.4047129
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4047129

Honestly bbc's style being called anime is stupid but it brings up a valid point of whether it'd be more profitable to draw anime like the nips or do a more westernized style. I find that the most popular western artists aren't really anime style at all.

>> No.4047130

>>4047122
there is no goal
it's jealousy, he is also most likely underaged

>> No.4047133

>>4047127
>there are other venues for making money from smut art.
Like what? All that comes to mind for me are commissions, patreon and making a game

>> No.4047136

>>4047133
Commissions, joining a smut network like flaanation, alternatives to Patreon.

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>>4047122
I mean, for a newfag like you who can't understand my
>cryptic 4chan speak
I can only go yikes to make it easy on you.
>I'm trying to have a normal conversation
lurk moar

>what is your goal with that?
My goal is to talk to people. Keep up or gtfo my malasyan giraffe riding image sharing forum
>>4047130
yeah, you're right
have you donated to his patreon yet?

>> No.4047140

>>4047129
anime is easier to draw so that's what im going with

>>4047121
pic related. that's someone else

I interjected between your argument with him because I was bothered by
>That's probably why EVERY single artist out there that draws porn is making it.

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>>4047140
forgot pic

>> No.4047145

>>4047139
yikes

>> No.4047149

>>4047139
>I mean, for a newfag like you who can't understand my
>cryptic 4chan speak
>I can only go yikes to make it easy on you.
>I'm trying to have a normal conversation
>lurk moar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohHHCzb7Hko
here's your (you), hope it spikes your dopamine levels

>> No.4047161

>>4047043
I'd like to see a finished piece. It's too much in the middle ground of potentially being great, or simply not.

>> No.4047163

>>4047136
You are ignoring one fact: they still have to go through the major credit card companies/payment processors. These paid subscription sites are all for naught I'd the major social media companies and mainstream processors close their doors on NSFW creators. Even HF is undergoing payment troubles with their servers.

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>>4047140
>>4047145
>>4047149
>this is the current state of this board
Good thing selling and buying porn is going to get much harder soon.

>> No.4047170

An article on the realities of payment processors rigid rules against high risk sites.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/kb7ak9/the-secret-censorship-of-online-porn

>> No.4047180
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4047180

>>4047168
why do you want people to suffer?

>> No.4047182

>>4047163
>I'd the major social media companies and mainstream processors close their doors on NSFW creators
All speculations.

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>>4047180
>faggots sudoku themselves
>hurr durr y u mek suffre?
Not my fault porn has melted your brains.
i'm just here laughing at your faggotry.

>> No.4047189

>>4047180
crab mentality

>> No.4047190

>>4047186
now this is an epic post

>> No.4047200

>>4047163
if that happens there will be a demand for a payment service that allows this
I hope you understand where that leads to
demand = $$$

>> No.4047201
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>>4047180

We want the porn industry and sex trafficking industries, and those who propagate it, to suffer and be exposed to the world. Those people who can break free or who can still be saved, must but on certain conditions. Those who cannot? To go down with the sinking fleet.

>>4047182
Read the article. The rules will only get tighter with the Epsteins and Schnieders becoming exposed to the world.

As more comes to light, so too will the masses and the payment processors will fight to close/block these transactions.

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>>4047201
And to add that most pornfags sell and show their work to underage faggots.
That will play a big role in the total porn ban of 24
The suffering hasn't even begun

>> No.4047212

>>4047200
Under what currency, the US dollar? The yuan? The pound? It makes a difference, as those currencies are tightly controlled.

I know the pornographers have been busy in the Middle East, but in the West the game is changing. Many youth are quitting porn or becoming increasingly hostile to it, both on the left and right. Hence a dip in demand. Combined with Mindgeek exploiting their content creators uploading pirates copies to squeeze more money out of them, forcing them to rely on crowdfunding, many small creators are going to burn out.

>> No.4047214

>>4047161
Yeah I really need to finish my sketches. I'll try posting something actually finished in the porn thread. Thank you anon

>> No.4047217

>>4047212
>>4047212
What the fuck are you talking about lmao, just go draw you autist

>> No.4047223

>>4047212
>any youth are quitting porn or becoming increasingly hostile to it
When you get bombarded left and right with
>sex this and tits that
for about 30 years, you get tired of that shit and just want to burn it all down
Exploiting something for money will always blow up in your face

>> No.4047230

>>4047217
Start.

>>4047223
Agreed.

>> No.4047250
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4047250

You know maybe it is because I recently started to do more nsfw stuff (not hardcore) or the fact that the world is getting more prude but I’m surprised there so much animosity against nsfw artists.

Would you consider Andrew mar stuff porn? Imho it is much more tasteful and artistically valuable than most of the few artists I follow

>> No.4047377

What I truly want to draw is porn but I want to get into normie shit.
Will satisfying my urge to draw porn with occasional soft lewd make normies hate me and not hire me or buy my shit?
I don't want my dick to ruin my future potential.

I was thinking of making a completely seperate account with a completely different username and drawing the faces differently with different lineart brushes, but would it harm everything because I wouldn't be posting almost daily on each account?
Thanks for any help, I appreciate it.

>> No.4047387

but she legal?

>> No.4047392

>>4047377
sakami chan draws nudes all the time and she is making a lot of normie bucks. dont worry about it anon.

> I wouldn't be posting almost daily on each account?

the tradeoff of splitting yourself up isn't worth it. Unless you want to draw hentai line stuff. Ecchi is ok with normies though.

>> No.4047402

>>4047392
Thanks for the input!
So nudes are okay, like nips occasionally or camletoe in some pics would be okay and not scare off people?
That makes sense about the hentai. I was hoping there would be a way to do both but splitting up my posting might be too much and mess up my main account because I wouldn't post frequently enough.

>> No.4047418
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>>4047402
>like nips occasionally or camletoe in some pics would be okay and not scare off people?

yup. careful with the degree of toe though.

>I was hoping there would be a way to do both but splitting up my posting might be too much and mess up my main account because I wouldn't post frequently enough.

i think you should take advantage of your soft lewds. Sakami chan keeps her social media somewhat sfw, but her softcore behind patreon. and so many people pay good money for those lewds.

There are some downsides to the sakami appraoch. Disney wont hire NSFW artists. That's it really. Stjepan Sejic the comic artist used to do lewds under a pen name but he didn't really care to keep it a secret. And Zeronis works at riot and still does lewds on patreon.

>> No.4047510

>>4047250

That particular image, yes. Acceptable by normies and under the payment processors rules, but would be put behind an ID verification wall.

>>4047377
Avoid outright porn and to stick with pinups/cheesecake behind a paywall if you wish to be hired by any major Western company. Prove you are capable of your craft by telling a story and your process from design to finished illustration. If all you want to do is stuff like Witchblade, then tailor your portfolio accordingly.

>> No.4047519

>>4047387
Who gives a fuck?
It’s a drawing it’s not real to begin with

>> No.4047541

>>4047129
How is bbc-chan's style not anime or anime knock-off?

>> No.4047644

>>4047212
>>4047250
>Many youth are quitting porn or becoming increasingly hostile to it, both on the left and right.
>the fact that the world is getting more prude
Are these posters pedophiles?

>>4047377
/co/ is insistent that it will not, and as such knows a number of working animators with embarassing fetish porn. I still say make different accounts
>and drawing the faces differently with different lineart brushes
don't do that

>> No.4047651

>>4044648
Who is the artist?

>> No.4047666

>>4047541
Define anime style.
Just because a style is simplified compared to reality, that doesn't automatically make it anime.
Sometimes I draw stuff that looks more anime, other times stuff that looks less anime.
You can't just call anime everything I draw.

T-b-h I rarely manage to willingly achieve an anime style I'm really happy with.

>> No.4047669

>>4044502
>1. When you start making NSFW art never ever take requests. You want to brand yourself as a premium artist. And if your followers think they can get requests out of you, they won't pay.
>2. Instead of taking requests make a sockpuppet account. Do a "commission" for the puppet. This will make you more desirable.

Every artist should make multiple accounts. Especially if they like to shit talk or talk politics

>> No.4047672

>>4044502
>1. When you start making NSFW art never ever take requests. You want to brand yourself as a premium artist. And if your followers think they can get requests out of you, they won't pay.
Dont participate in drawthreads then ask for commissions, you're fucking yourself over

>> No.4047681

>>4047672
Drawthreads are literally just free ideas and advertising

>> No.4047694

>>4047672

ive gotten commissions from drawthreads

>> No.4047874

>>4047672
>participate in drawthreads

i forgot about those. are they even an efficient way of marketing?

>> No.4047890

>>4047644
I spoke of students in high school and college who began consuming porn at a young age. It's a sad reality, but they've begun to fight it.

>/co is insistent that it will not

Which means jack all.

>> No.4047961
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4047961

>>4047651
slugbox

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>>4047666
Your being a pedantic faggot for no reason. Anime style is not the lack of details, I don't know where your getting this idea that anyone that says something is anime style is implying something like that since literally everything outside of baroque painting is the simplification of reality. Anime style is a very specific way of drawing the shape of the face, a very idealized version of an eastern Asian face, simple eyes with varying levels of detail for the pupils, simple to nonexistent nose and a simple mouth, maybe with a line to imply a lower lip. pic related is on the more realistic side, but its still anime non the less, unless you wanna argue that you have to be Japanese to draw anime style, In which case I'm just gonna call you retarded.
TLDR Anime style is varying but it all shares basic structures that a ton of people use.

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>>4048067
>t. weeb
everything that isnt real is anime
ask the paypigs

and your definition is wrong
anime is just weebanese for cartoons
the style is oversimplified so that you dont have to put much work when animating and drawing
and anime has its roots in western animation
thus everything is anime
an hero weebshit

>> No.4048114

>>4048105
Your post makes no fucking sense. The simplification of details extends to all animation you fucking Dunning kruger. This is why there's no good artist besides the occasional lowest common denominator fetish smut artist coming through here because of niggers like you calling people weebs over simple observations. Kill your self because your obviously not gonna make it.

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>>4048114
>i cant read
>i cant understand
>u mus b wong
go jerk off to cartoons, faggot

>> No.4048136

>>4048134

>> No.4048305
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making it is hard anons

>> No.4048441

>>4048305
But I'm a 3rd worlder and my minimum wage is much less then burgerlands. Earning that, while living this cheap actually wouldn't be that bad. So what procantage of patreons make minimum wage, say, about 10%? Those are pretty good odds to me.

>> No.4048467

>>4048441
>burgerlands
LUL

>So what procantage of patreons make minimum wage, say, about 10%? Those are pretty good odds to me.

yeah living in a rural asain country while you get internet bucks is the epitome of making it.

I got to move because I live in a country more expensive to live in than the US, yet our minimum wage is lower.

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>> No.4048599

>>4047377
I'm pretty much in the same boat, porn is one genre I want to do but it feels like a pigionhole no thanks to all the external factors. I don't want to be stuck doing one single genre forever.

>> No.4048600
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4048600

>>4047510
Are pinups like this still ok?

>> No.4048605

>>4048600
it is if its a black fat trans women

>> No.4048642

What are some good places to actually start posting NSFW art to gain a fan base?

>> No.4048645

>>4044761
the lower abdomen is very jittery and changes size in the last frame.

>> No.4048686

>>4048600
Cheesecake, nudes, pinups are fine in moderation, but you should tailor your portfolio towards the job you want.

Just keep the nude versions behind a paywall, and stay away from porn as the payment processors close in. Go for the Facebook/Instagram/SFW Twitter crowd.

>> No.4048689
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4048689

>>4044698
Is making porn without posting online at all still good practice considering your getting virtually no critique or info from others?

>> No.4048745
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4048745

>>4048645
he makes a lot of patreon bucks. most of his audience arent artists and dont notice those sort of details either

>>4048689
yeah it is. you're practicing anatomy after all.

>> No.4048796

>>4048645
>autistic nitpicking
this is why he's making it and you aren't.

>> No.4048810

>>4044712
As a nsfw artist that does a fair amount of commission work I think I’ll try your Patreon suggestion. These guys need have a clue on the end result. Plus I’m getting tired of drawing weird non sexual looking fetishes.

>> No.4048815

>>4048745
a person dedicated to creating qties deserves all of it and more

>> No.4048927

>>4048796
that's not really autistic nitpicking anon. But Dives is making thousands of dollars so what do I know.

>> No.4048957

>>4048927
ye shut yo poor ass

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>> No.4050409
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>>4047644
Yes actually
I never trust people against 2D lolis or want to give drawings rights
Literally every single time they’re the real deal wolves in sheep’s clothing pedos

>> No.4050536

>>4046994
Did everyone just miss the joke?

>> No.4050564

>>4047201
So, basically you want to give more power to other Epsteins and Schnieders so that there is no low cost harmless alternative to fucking real children?

>> No.4050595

>>4050564
Oh anon don’t you know?
People who virtue sign over 2D lolis are always actual Cheese pizza pedos.

As someone that has been a rapist victim

I’d perfer would be pedos jerk off quietly in their rooms to cartoons instead of:
The dark illegal path of verbal and emotional abuse, grooming, rape and permanent emotional damage of young kids with early exposure to sexual deviancy

The two don’t stack up
>Some lines on some paper
Vs
>Gaining another human’s trust to later exploit for nude pictures, sexual favors and forever damaging their chance at a loving relationship built on trust and love

>> No.4050648
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>>4050536
i didn't expect anything else, Anon

>> No.4050664

>>4047026
blog

>> No.4050685

>>4050648
is this ours?this is amazing!

>> No.4050692

>>4050595
>People who virtue sign over 2D lolis are always actual Cheese pizza pedos.
This. It's the whole old game of
>"If i openly show hostility against something, they won't suspect me of that thing and i can hide my own guilt from myself"
People who are serious about a thing will act on their beliefs instead of desperately seeking approval and acceptance from others.
>The two don’t stack up
>Some lines on some paper
>Vs
>Gaining another human’s trust to later exploit for nude pictures, sexual favors and forever damaging their chance at a loving relationship built on trust and love
But it makes sense for the pedos.
It's a scapegoat.
Normies will believe they'll get rid of kiddiediddlers by destroying drawings when in reality it won't do shit and it will only make closeted pedos seek out and harm real children because they can't get their fix while the ones already deep in the game can continue trafficking children because the normies thinks they solved the cp problem.
But the agenda goes further. They want to normalize this behaviour by pointing at things the normies destroyed and how oppressed they are.
Money and marketing also play a big role.
If everything aligns with their goals and the current plan of eradicating any moral barriers, in less than 50 years you will see children being treated like full grown adults.
Since you can't pick them out one by hand. because it will in their favor in the long run, my solution would be to nuke the whole planet.
>inb4 b-b-but everyone will die
good riddance
>Inb4 u will die 2 fag
Thats the plan

>> No.4050693

>>4050685
ye donat 2 my patreon

>> No.4050785

Pyw

>> No.4050787

>>4050785
no u

>> No.4050878

which demographic would most likely to pay you? male audience or female audience?

>> No.4050885
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4050885

>>4044502
>>4044648
>>4047651
>>4047961
>that chin

>> No.4050887

>>4050885
Have sex incel.

>> No.4050891

>>4044642
When you sell stuff at cons, how much do you charge? I've seen people who think they can charge $40 for something that is just a print of a commission they did.
Obviously, they can charge that, but it just seems retarded

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fucking chin kek

>> No.4050898
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KEK

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4050903

>>4050885
>>4050896
>>4050898

>> No.4051028

>>4050891
Usually $15 to $25 generates a lot of sales.
You CAN price stuff for $40, but honestly I think it'd just do a lot more harm than good if you can just sell so many lower with good margins.

>> No.4051090

Would it be strange if I wore a mask or costume to hide my appearance when selling stuff at cons?

>> No.4051096

>>4044752
>>4044761
It really depends on the furfag. You'll find literal unironic pedophiles who want cubshit and torture porn and then you have the weird moralfags who somehow think they have any right to criticize anyone else about what they fap to.

>> No.4051161

>>4045440
It's very unremarkable because it was for a friend.

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>>4051090


no. overlord's creator does it. we still don't know his face.

but Westerners are rude bastards who would try and pull the mask.

>> No.4051236

>>4051090
Yes. Weird af.

>> No.4051250

>>4051090
>>4051198
There's a Bane joke in here somewhere.

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>>4044849
go back to reading your manga retard-kun

>> No.4052015

>>4044502
Have you considered you'd be paid in exposure?

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>>4047092
Say, since you're around here, I meant to ask how did you go about the promoting part ? Just the usual trend-hopping and hashtag stuff ?

>> No.4052507

>>4052054
I actually don't trendhop. I think doing that is counter productive, cause you'll gain an audience that like the subjects you draw instead of your art alone. Also I'm a bit disgusted by pandering. Not speaking about people that actually like a design and want to try their take on it. I'm talking exclusively about people that want to pander in order to get a larger following. Seems overly desperate or something. This said, I draw smut, so I guess others might say the same about me.

Anyway, I started out by doing exclusively original content in form of sketches. People liked it and I started getting commissions fairly quickly.
I always just posted anything I drew on a daily basis and tagged it accordingly to what was in the pic. Stuff like #stockings #glasses #big boobs #petite etc. Basically fetishes and kinks.
My major break through happened thanks to FF14 commissions. Word spread in the community and I started getting a ton of commission work related to that.
99% of my commissions are still "OC" related.

>> No.4052639

>>4045440
First-time commissions won't be all that marvelous or make great stories.
It was just like any other commission I did, someone said they would like some art, I was like "Uhhhh yeah, $10?" And then 2 days later they got their art and I got $10

>> No.4052790

>>4052507
Thanks for the quick answer, it's really encouraging hearing it from someone that pulled it off. I've been doing the whole desperation art for a while, gained a small following but it's really soul crushing panicking every day over finding what's popular and trying to play off it.

>> No.4052814

>>4052507
what websites did you find the most success on/got the most commissions from? I know that things have changed a lot from when you started out but it would still be useful.

> I started out by doing exclusively original content in form of sketches
You means OCs? How do you get noticed with this kind of content? Personally I find that my OC content goes mostly unnoticed.

>> No.4052964

>>4052814
>what websites did you find the most success on
Tumblr, RIP, and Hentai Foundry.
After the tumblr exodus I moved to twitter.

>> No.4052967

>>4052814
>You means OCs? How do you get noticed with this kind of content?
I was posting my content as I explained above. No special tricks or anything.
I think it's just important to post a lot and if you have interesting content drawn in an appealing style, people will follow to see more.

>> No.4053119

>>4050878
Guys pay for porn. Women pay for Pride and Prejudice, or 50 Shades type of stuff

>> No.4053440

>>4050409
The Yakuza indulges in sex trafficking and child porn, and openly funds and supplies ero mangakas with prostitutes and illicit references. The shit you masturbate to sprung from those trafficking industries.

>> No.4053450

>>4050564
By going after them, their finances, and gathering eye witness testimony, who often work on behalf of the Israelis booming child prostitution industry and Middle Eastern migrants exploitation of Western children, we somehow somehow entrench these people? This is some impressive doublethink, glownigger.

>> No.4053477

>>4050595
Correlation does not equal causation.

Evidence: studies from India linking the prevalence of pornography to the rising incidents of rape, sexual assault, and sex trafficking http://www.indianjournals.com/ijor.aspx?target=ijor:ojpas&volume=6&issue=2&article=007, evidence and testimony of pornography addiction as professed by nearly 80% of the locations of convicted rapists, a study in New Hampshire that showed states with the highest consumption of pornography had the highest rates of rape and sexual assault, Israel's soaring rates of underage prostitution and child trafficking, with numerous Israel dual citizens key in the trade and distribution of pornography across the world, etc.

>> No.4054597

How do you report taxes in the US for income from commissions and donations?

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>>4045236
Fuck you anon for posting a crop of that doujin... them feels

>> No.4055515

>>4054597
this, i want to know too

also if you keep your money on paypal do you still have to pay taxes??

>> No.4055587

>>4055515
Of course you do idiot. You have to report everything that comes and goes through your paypal, your bank account, etc.

>>4054597
Google it yourself if you want to do it for free, personally I gave in to the jews and bought a turbotax plan specifically meant for freelancers/contractors because it saves me the hassle. If you have no idea of what to do at all go to a CPA. Even patreon doesn't give a sure answer on how to report earnings

>> No.4055767

>>4055473
the events of the doujin are canonically fake and made up, all done by well-paid actors and actresses who enjoy their work and went on to live happily ever after.

>> No.4055930

>>4055473
>>4055767
Get help for your autism.

>> No.4057327

>>4045236
Sauce. Give it now.

>> No.4057452

>>4057327
metamorphosis

you will be disgusted

>> No.4057971

>>4045440
A guy asked me for 3 animu girls giving a triple bj for $70, I took a few days to do it and the whole time was stressed as fuck I wasn't going to make it good enough. He got it and was happy and I was so traumatized that I haven't done a commission since.

This was a couple years ago, I think I'm less insecure now.

>> No.4058057

>>4057452
>you will feel
FTFY

>> No.4058074

>>4058057
Only if you are autistic.