/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

[Anonymous No.4044043]

How come theres no comic general? well /co/ sucks so i'm making my own

POST YOUR COMIC THREAD

Post current pages, shill links, story ideas and sketches.
Don't have a comic yet? check the links in the thread for ways to start and ask questions

[Anonymous No.4044044]

STARTING YOUR COMIC STORY:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGBREIlHo7c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1D1Sv9HdWw
https://www.makingcomics.com/
https://www.scribd.com/document/369846067/Manga-in-Theory-and-Practice (technically manga but fuck it)


POSTING YOUR COMIC ONLINE:
https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018 (for tumblr posting)
https://tapas.io/ (very large user base but it downsizes your image)
https://comicfury.com/ (no resolution cap, smallish userbase)
or make your own website if you're such a wiz kid


Also helpful if you haven't read it yet
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0vtKqkt0q-bNTk1MzlhMmYtMmMyNS00Yzc3LTgzMDEtMjEzNDI3ZmZjMzAx/edit

[Anonymous No.4044059]

>>4044043
I've got a lot of questions regarding being a comic artist but here's one:

Setting.
I'm writing a post-apocalyptic comic.
I was thinking of either it will be set in japan or any developed countries.
A catastrophic world set in my third world country would be lame as fuck.
What should I do ? I don't have any idea about foreign countries but through copying manga/anime I might have a chance.

[Anonymous No.4044063]

>>4044059
>I'm writing a post-apocalyptic comic.

I don't think has ever been done before. You are gonna be huge.

[Anonymous No.4044071]

>>4044059
if you want extremely desolate post apoc to the point of the earth becoming location centred story in a peaceful land, I highly suggest Houseki No Kuni
If you want bleak but slightly light adventure in a desolate wasteland world that’s cultured and has inventive concept of monsters, read Stand Still stay silent
set new standards though

[Anonymous No.4044081]

>>4044063
it has been done before, as my last post said,
but there’s potential, except it’s really hard
if anyone can find a theoretical theme that feels new to the world, it can be good
A sharp concept is a priority rather than a sharp image

[Anonymous No.4044082]

>>4044059
research japan, not just manga and anime either, look at their culture, for instance baseball is big over there so I could see roving gangs of bandits with baseball bats, it also depends on the type of apocalypse, you could also read into the folklore for a suitable apocalyptic monster

[Anonymous No.4044085]

>>4044059
W R I T E
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Y O U
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[Anonymous No.4044088]

>>4044059
you should go for a nuclear meltdown apocalypse, look into the Fukushima nuclear disaster and Hisashi Ouchi, thats some nightmare shit

[Anonymous No.4044093]

>>4044088
Yeah,
imagine “I have no mouth and I must Scream”
Make the character not like a ragdoll that you throw suffering at though

[Anonymous No.4044098]

>>4044093
forgot to add to make a human being
imagine yourself in hisashi’s shoes, poor guy

[Anonymous No.4044102]

>>4044088
>>4044093
>>4044098

don't forget about the Yakuza, just with the Junko story alone you have tons of nightmare fuel potential, and everyone who reads about her story feels bad for her

[Anonymous No.4044111]

>>4044081
I'm writing a post-apocalyptic comic where the world turns into a tabletop fantasy setting influenced by relics of the past, has that been done to death? I guess Adventure Time did that, but I don't know much else.

[Anonymous No.4044113]

>>4044102
I haven’t read about her, all I know is that those 2 cases make the Japanese government look like psychopaths
they already have records of radiation death from the bombings, why research more?

[Anonymous No.4044123]

>>4044111
make a story with a message or at least something for the reader to question to themselves, as pretentious as that sounds
don’t try to make a “meh” work

[Anonymous No.4044124]

>>4044063
Don't be ironic anon. I'm working hard around here and other genre out there like porn,comedy and fantasy is more saturated.
I even gave up on drawing a SOL because I realised I shouldn't draw just because it's easy.

>>4044071
Thanks for the recommendation.
I'm drawing more of a post-apocalyptic action.
Set in modern since I like improvised weapons like hammers, axes or chainsaws.
And I like people using their wits for survival.

>>4044082
I have problem with Japanese names like they have different meanings and I don't know their appeal.
But in western names I can atleast understand.
And Japan is not just tokyo so I don't know where should it be set. But the west also have like America, Europe so it's also complicated.

[Anonymous No.4044128]

>>4044124
> But the west also have like America, Europe so it's also complicated
Holy fuck you are hopeless.

[Anonymous No.4044130]

anons I cannot stress this enough, if you have a long comic series idea in your head but you haven't made a comic yet, for the love of god do a short practice comic, or a couple practice comics, thats what i'm doing now and i've learned so much from the experience and feel more and more confident in starting my "real" idea comic every day

[Anonymous No.4044132]

>>4044124
america and europe is extremely broad anon
are you american? do you have any cultural roots you have that you can use?

[Anonymous No.4044136]

>>4044123
Sweet. I definitely have that going on, maybe to a detrimental extent if I don't execute and pace it really well. I'm starting small though since I'm having a hard time figuring out how to make dialogue less awkward, but I assume it just gets better with experience and feedback.

[Anonymous No.4044139]

>>4044130
very good dialogue, but wacky neck in the 4th panel
maybe try experimenting with fonts,
make backgrounds more visible, I want to see stuff other than the wall, like the floor, the ceiling, the pews, what makes a church a church

[Anonymous No.4044140]

>>4044128
>>4044132
We don't learn much about the west here in southeast asia.
I just watch movies to learn something.
I'm also frustrated about it.

[Anonymous No.4044144]

>>4044140
>southeast asia
where exactly? which country?

[Anonymous No.4044146]

>>4044139
Sorry, I should have mentioned, that is one of my practice comics from two years ago, I posted it as an example, should have clarified that


This is my most recent comic page

[Anonymous No.4044148]

>>4044144
Does it really matter ? I hate every country in southeast asia including mine so I won't write anything about it.

[Anonymous No.4044164]

>>4044148
come on, answer the question
don’t stay in a comfort zone and write about commonly written places like the west or japan
In fact, I’d love to have a comic series centred around southeast asia

[Anonymous No.4044166]

>>4044146
This is a lot of small panels
Make Bigger panels and spread them out into more pages if you can

[Anonymous No.4044169]

>>4044146
Shrink your lettering, for the love of god

[Anonymous No.4044173]

>>4044164
If you want it I hate it like I said it would be lame
It's Philippines ok ? I don't entirely hate it here it's just lame.

[Anonymous No.4044174]

>>4044164
This. Dont use Japan kust because is trendy, you cuck.

[Anonymous No.4044176]

>>4044166
>>4044169
wtf the last time I posted here people told me I needed less bigger panels and bigger text


This must mean if I follow your guy's advice i'll finally get to a happy medium

[Anonymous No.4044178]

>>4044173
Okay, search up and research literally anything and everything about filipino culture and myths, legends, stories, whatever
read your history too and what community means in your country, because sticking together is important in apocalyptic scenarios right?

[Anonymous No.4044179]

How does one format their webcomic for webtoon? I've heard of people making the comics normally then splicing them together while I heard of others just using one big canvas.
Unrelated, but why does webtoon only take jpg? (An image must be less than 800px wide and 1280px long, JPG format,
and up to 2MB in file size. The suggested DPI is 72 or more. The batch of images can be up to 20MB). I heard because it loads slow on phones, but even with the limitations it's still slow?

[Anonymous No.4044180]

>>4044173
only thing I know about the Philippines is the film Ruined heart and its fucking kino.

[Anonymous No.4044182]

>>4044174
Japan has lots of art and so is the west. Not because it's trendy, it's because they're peak aesthetic.
Developed countries turning into chaos has appeal.
A chaotic country turning into chaos doesn't.

>>4044180
Still not good for post-apocalyptic scenario.

[Anonymous No.4044184]

>>4044176
I feel you dude, but believe me, advices are legit this time.

[Anonymous No.4044185]

>>4044182
>not good
dude Manila is already post apoc as it is.

[Anonymous No.4044186]

>>4044182
fuck man, I regret doomposting some time ago about east vs west
fuck peak aesthetic, make your own, don’t follow trends
a chaotic/developing country may be even fucking perfect
it’s different from 1st world society going to shit, if a developing country falls again in an apoc scenario, imagine how it would at least try to get back up again, they can at least survive in some way better than a city slicker at least

[Anonymous No.4044187]

>>4044059
>What should I do?

[Anonymous No.4044189]

>>4044146
>>4044176
also
>guy behind pink deer disappears in last panel
keep track of characters, there’s a lot of people crammed in this one page

[Anonymous No.4044190]

>>4044043
This was supposed to be a practice test page but my tablet broke while i was sketching it. Gonna do another test page when I get a new tablet in a few weeks.

[Anonymous No.4044191]

>>4044189
Goddammit you're right i'm retarded

[Anonymous No.4044194]

>>4044146
It's way too low key, you have this problem in general with your comic. I get that you're trying to show it's night but you can achieve this without going so dark. Just use a bluish tint and try to define silhouettes with moonlight, your characters don't read well and your placement of blacks makes little sense. If it's possible, try to have characters interact near a light source. Your lettering is bumping against the edges of the balloons, you should adjust the width and height with the object tool to make the lettering fit properly. I think your comic would benefit from hand-drawn balloons on top of hand-drawn lettering.

[Anonymous No.4044198]

>>4044190
make the lizard looking thing visible in the 1st panel, have their head peep out
>>4044191
read framed ink
everyone here needs framed ink

[Anonymous No.4044202]

What makes you say it would benefit more from hand-drawn balloons?

[Anonymous No.4044204]

>>4044194
What makes you say it would benefit from hand-drawn balloons?

[Anonymous No.4044209]

>>4044204
hand drawn balloons are more natural I think
look at this maybe
http://entervoid.com/index.php/topic,12907.0.html

[Anonymous No.4044239]

>>4044204
Just a hunch. I think it would look better. Made a quick example using the balloon pen tool and some adjustment via object tool. You can also use the "correct drawing line width" tool to go over the balloon and vary the line width of the vector so it looks more natural

[Anonymous No.4044240]

>>4044239

[Anonymous No.4044253]

>>4044239
>>4044240
shit dude you're right, i'm working on a tight self imposed deadline so I don't think i'll go back to rewrite stuff, just shrink it like the other anon said, but on the page i'm working on now i'll implement this and see if I fair any better, thank you, genuinely

[Anonymous No.4044324]

>>4044253
>>4044240
>>4044239
actually nevermind i'm fixing this tonight, it'll bug me if I don't

[Anonymous No.4044327]

whats up friends. im working on a comic of my own as well. Here i have thumbnails for pages 1 through 5 so far.
my plan to create the entire first chapter this way, so its quicker and easier to distribute to editors before i can finally start inking this thing.
any crit would be appreciated! (any questions too...)

[Anonymous No.4044688]

>>4044043
http://endgamewastaken.the-comic.org

I actually just finished the fifth chapter a few weeks ago. Any feedback would be appreciated.

[Anonymous No.4044920]

>You're terrible at drawing from imagination and all your comics come out crummy and ugly.

[Anonymous No.4044923]

>>4044920
PYW

[Anonymous No.4044925]

>>4044923
On the future, I just finished a comic I'm going to publish as a zine and I don;t want it to be tracked to this board.

[Anonymous No.4045092]

>>4044688
I really like your style, my man.

[Anonymous No.4045205]

https://tapas.io/episode/950548

Here's my comic, it's on hiatus while I work on writing (read: procrastinate) the 5th chapter.
I'm very tempted to start working on a new comic idea I've had brewing but I feel like that's a surefire way to killing my current one.

>>4044179
From what I hear, people who want to print someday or prefer normally formatted webcomics draw pages first, then chop them up. Otherwise you can just draw the pages in scrolling format from the start. Additionally, while page-by-page formatted comics are less favored on webtoons, you can defintely just post traditionally formatted comics there as well.
Webtoons uses JPG because it's mainly a phone based site and they want the images to be as teeny as possible. Maybe it's just your phone, WT usually loads fine for me?

[Anonymous No.4045209]

>>4044688
You really need to work on composition, focus, and readability. I tried reading through the most recent chapter and had to keep stopping mid page, especially in fight scenes just because I couldn't tell what was supposed to be going on in the panels.

[Anonymous No.4045241]

>>4044059
Best thing to do if you want to write about a subject you don't know about, is to do as much research on that subject as you can. The more believable the better. If you want your story to take place in a certain country other than your own, research the:
>locations
>the society
>a bit of the history
>dialect
>fashion, food, people etc.
I know it sounds like a lot of work, but if you want your comic to stand out, you must put in that extra effort. Also, it wouldn't help to read other creator's work of that genre. It will help with developing ideas and concepts, and also it can help avoid writing a story plot that's already been done before.

>>4044130
Good advice anon. I feel lucky to have been around when /co/ was doing it's "Premier Pulp" run. I learned so much from just working on short 10 page stories, and collaborating with other writers. I recommend this as well.

>>4044327
I think editors would want to see a finished product, rather than just thumbnails. Check out this link for a broader idea of what editors want when submitting to comic publishers.
Although I will say, it's looking nice so far.

https://jasonthibault.com/definitive-list-comic-publisher-submission-guidelines/

>>4044688
bookmarking your comic anon. I'll check it out later! :D

>>4045205
I've been meaning to read yours too. Bookmark'd!

Here's my comic. I wasn't able to post a page this week because I was caught up with a few things, and also my wife surprised me for my birthday, so next page will be uploaded this upcoming Monday.

http://www.taleofjaspergold.com/

>When settled rancher Jasper Gold’s bounty hunting past catches up with him, Jasper must take up his gun once again to track down a gang of criminals as he searches for his lost daughter.

[Anonymous No.4045246]

>>4045241
>I think editors would want to see a finished product, rather than just thumbnails. Check out this link for a broader idea of what editors want when submitting to comic publishers.
Yeah that definitely makes sense. Though, i probably shouldnt have said "editors" because i actually just meant anybody who could critique me so that i can finalize it with all the mistakes ironed out. thanks for the info though, i would like to get published some day

[Anonymous No.4045280]

>>4045205
That's exactly what I'm doing what with traditional comic formatting but also every now and then formating where visuals look better from scrolling like the beginings of chapters

[Anonymous No.4045285]

>>4044920
Keep practicing anon until it looks write, and study images that do look right and figure out what makes something readable. Artstyle doesn't matter as long as it's readable

[Anonymous No.4045286]

>>4044085
then i'll write the story of a dude who pirates costhots' patreon pics, complaines about them being money hungry whores, and cry himself to sleep because tfw no costhot gf

[Anonymous No.4045288]

>>4044059
Fallout set in China sounds nice. Imagine some post apocalyptic samurai dressed with scavenged items. Here's a drawing i made some time ago.

[Anonymous No.4045295]

>>4045285
I do use references, maybe my issue is the lack of preparation for each panel since I only doodle them once before jumping to the final product.

[Anonymous No.4045339]

Just made some character ref sheets for my comic.
Although she's supposed to be a corpse, she doesnt look all that rotten here, i know, but itll be her initial appearance, and her hair is covering up her skull-half. shes going to rot as the story progresses

[Anonymous No.4045341]

>>4045339
Heres her ally, Jejune, the herbalist bird

[Anonymous No.4045376]

>>4044085
that means to do research.

[Anonymous No.4045382]

>>4044059
Firstly: how's this post apocalyptic scenario come about in the first place?
With that, you can start to create ideas. Y'know, problems faced - how they're solved; day to day life; how humanity currently is (what remains of it) - full on dog eat dog or are there at least communes etc? Probably choose a location too right after the how, as it'd relate to the other points. But I dunno if it really matters.
Just my 2 cents.

[Anonymous No.4045439]

>>4045288
Read kenshi my post-apocalyptic bro

[Anonymous No.4045447]

>>4045439
Play* I mean.

>>4045382
>>4045241
Really thanks for the advice.

[Anonymous No.4045675]

Ok anons i've workshopped it a bit, how do you guys fancy this? an improvement

[Anonymous No.4045716]

>>4045675
Make it even darker so you cannot see it at all.

[Anonymous No.4045737]

>>4045716
is it actually that dark?

[Anonymous No.4045740]

>>4045737
Maybe you were drawing on a very bright screen. To me it also seems a bit too dark.

[Anonymous No.4045745]

>>4045740
Sorry I don't mean to spam the thread with my shit but how is this?

[Anonymous No.4045811]

>>4045745
To me the pacing seems very wrong. It feels like I'm reading these disconnected words and sentaces without understanding anything thats happening. Having all the panels in so small makes it feel weird and doesn't tell you where to focus and what is the importance of this scene.

Take mignolas comics as an example, you can tell whats happening in this scene just from this one panel and its easy to read. You need to work on panel sizing and composition, if you haven't read framed ink yet I highly suggest you do.

[Anonymous No.4045812]

>>4045745
Theres no sense of space or environment and you're doing too many close ups of peoples faces. Even though the scene is about the people it would make it more comfortable for the reader if you could use the background to help you tell whats happening.

[Anonymous No.4045845]

>>4044059
i dunno anon. a country that's already been fucked and been used to getting fucked might make great new empireblazers because they can cope with that shit and japan or whatever can't

[Anonymous No.4045848]

>>4045205
what a qt

[Anonymous No.4045885]

>>4044043
>How come theres no comic general?
Cuz comics don't make any money. Duh

[Anonymous No.4045895]

holy shit, you guys are good. I thought my stuff was good, but I guess I have to step up my game. Pic is the current page I'm working on, previous pages are here: https://imgur.com/gallery/2XkRQ5k

what do you guys think? I've posted on /co/ but got no responses

[Anonymous No.4045904]

Is there ant story of people actually making money with Webcomic nowadays? If so how? Does Webtoon pay? I think it's quite convenient to be seen, at least

[Anonymous No.4045914]

>>4045904
google "patreon webcomic" and look through all the creators, it ranges from shit like 65 bucks a month to 1000 bucks a month, you have to find your audience

[Anonymous No.4045920]

>>4045904
I was thinking of standing out on pixiv or twitter so some japs hire me for being good but that's just fantasy.

[Anonymous No.4045922]

>>4044043
>/co/ sucks
havent been there for ages. what happened to /hyw/?

[Anonymous No.4046001]

>>4045920
liteally never ever

>>4045914
i'd like 65 bucks a month

[Anonymous No.4046029]

>>4044178
The guy clearly doesn’t want to write about it.
>>4044148
Honestly I love seeing foreign depictions of western settings, especially when it’s a little off or idealized. think dark souls, everything by suda 51, metal gear, the triplets of Belleville, ghibli films, etc. hell, the best westerns were made by the Italians

[Anonymous No.4046032]

>>4045922
/hyw/ is just a circlejerk of /beg/s now. Almost everyone decent stopped posting there

[Anonymous No.4046100]

>>4045745
you should be able to check by using channels to flip it into greyscale quick and see how the values are visible there. a youtube comic colourist i watch also recommends having your brightness around 80% because a sheet of paper wont be outputting light.

[Anonymous No.4046103]

>>4045745
I'd say cut it in half. First part is the attack, second is the character finding out that one of the comrades is a traitor.

Also it's pretty hard to read. Maybe try something like:

0: Attackers surrounding the victims. Maybe show first hit on the pig in this.
1: Shot from the side "stay back" goat and attacker, pig and the other guy in background
2: "Be silent" more or less as it is.
3: Pig "This is wrong" from the side/back with a view on the first attacker loading the goat on the shoulder.
4: Claiming of the pig and exaggerate perspective with the pig face squashed by the boot and a dark shape of the guy with a toothy smile. You can probably make the guy fully black with just white for the teeth.

[Anonymous No.4046311]

>>4045895
> " Going up ? " says the crocodile
> " Uh... Sure "
I laughed.

Choices in panel placement do not always feel justified but I did enjoy the rawness of it all. Keep it up !

[Anonymous No.4046474]

>>4046311
thanks anon, glad you think the rawness adds to it. I'm working on making the art cleaner and more refined as I go and I think it's working.

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>>4047158
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>>4047171
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>>4047172
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>>4047173
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[Anonymous No.4047188]

>>4044043
I want to make a comic sometime but I'm worried that there's basically zero interest in webcomics aside from niche shit and porn. Then again, most of the webcomics I've seen range from mediocre to downright bad. Are my fears justified or am I just not looking in the right places or something?

[Anonymous No.4047193]

>>4047188
There's interest in Webcomics, on Webtoons some people get hundreds of thousands of readers and I've seen normies irl reading it. Even on other hosting sites, or if you do self hosting, there's plenty of people interested in them as readers.

[Anonymous No.4047213]

>>4047188
I want to draw comics because most illustrations are pointless shit.

[Anonymous No.4047221]

>>4047188
Yeah I feel the same. I've been thinking about just pitching to a smaller publisher instead. Webcomics seem like a gamble, if you make your own site you need to have a pre-established audience, if you post on webtoon, you have to appeal to a certain demographic (anime style, romance, etc) and can't really do your own thing. You also have to be really lucky just to pick up some steam. I personally feel like the best route would still be to make the best work you possibly can, find a smaller publisher that puts out similar stuff and hope they like your work. If that fails then you have the webcomic route to fall back on although it's fairly risky.

[Anonymous No.4047231]

>>4047151
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>>4047173
name or link?

[Anonymous No.4047254]

Where do you guys write stuff ?
After using this for a year I just realise you can actually customize it to look really good.
Word sucks because it's way too slow but this one's pretty fast.

[Anonymous No.4047258]

>>4047254
I just use Google Docs because it makes it easy and convenient to share it with other people to give me crit/feedback and make comments on it. And because I can work on scripts or write notes between classes.

[Anonymous No.4047267]

>>4047254
What kinds of customizations? I use Notepad++ but almost like classical Notepad, no fancy stuff.

[Anonymous No.4047279]

>>4044146
I can't see shit, anon.

>>4044130
VERY cool.

>>4044140
Cute, self-defeating Pinoy!! Wish you good luck in your journey, and remember: at least you're not Indian.

[Anonymous No.4047296]

>>4047267
I don't know if this is considered fancy or not.
In Settings you can find preferences and style configuration.
Pic-related. I prefer this rather than the default.
I'm not that tech-savvy. I'm researching on how to make it better but Google and Youtube is lacking in tutorials.

[Anonymous No.4047320]

>>4047296
Ah, it's just a reskin, I thought there were editing features that helped with storywriting.

There are probably some good tools out there for this, would be pretty cool: connecting parts of the text with hyperlinks, keeping separate tabs for different information, having collapsible parts so you can write in a nested form...

I generally draw mindmaps on a paper before typing shit out because I lack this flexibility with software. Paper is not even that good, but it's a bit better for a rough brainstorm.

[Anonymous No.4047396]

I try. Yeah my first chapter is literally a CYOA from /tg/.

https://foxtailcomic.wordpress.com/prologue-kudo/

[Anonymous No.4047410]

>>4047188
In the same boat. There are zero chances if you're making a story webcomic and publishing is pretty much the same if not worse.

[Anonymous No.4047413]

>>4047254
I use Mark Text and save it on Drive, on my phone I have Markor (and a bluetooth keyboard). Both open source.

[Anonymous No.4047443]

>>4044146
download and use the wildwords font
hand-written fonts only really work for 4-koma type stuff

[Anonymous No.4047473]

>>4047175
I rike it

[Anonymous No.4047535]

>>4047193
Webtoon/tapas kind of has a shortage non slice of life comedy, horror, and action. The few comics that fill this void are popular so what you could try is to do those genres.

[Anonymous No.4047608]

>>4047410
isn't that more like a graphic novel?

[Anonymous No.4048006]

>>4047231
It's unreleased atm. Thought i'd share. I'll post some more if there's an interest.

>>4047473
cheers!

[Anonymous No.4048148]

imagine actually putting effort into comics

[Anonymous No.4048150]

>>4048148
but desu this was pretty fun to make

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[Anonymous No.4048158]

disgraceful really

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>>4048219
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>>4048240
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[Anonymous No.4048245]

>>4047221
Speaking of publisher, what do you guys think of Saturday AM? Their site open for submission months ago but i'm not sure if this is the right place for my comic. They seem to want only comics in shounen manga style

I want to collect more info before making decision

[Anonymous No.4048251]

>>4047221
>I personally feel like the best route would still be to make the best work you possibly can, find a smaller publisher that puts out similar stuff and hope they like your work.
Ironically I have talked with a few people who got a foot in the door and what I gathered is that the first thing publishers / curators do is look at your social media presence. So you're cucked either way.

[Anonymous No.4048252]

>>4048245
>>4044043
is Manga really the only thing going these days?

[Anonymous No.4048253]

>>4048242
>>4044043

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>>4048253
>>4044043

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>>4048256
>>4044043

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>>4048258
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>>4048261
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>>4048252
>is Manga really the only thing going
or is it?
how many people read anything but the 1% of flagship shonen manga?
how many people who watch anime read manga too?
how many people who read manga actually buy manga instead of reading scanlations?
It's surely not as dead as capeshit but it's not the paradise people think

[Anonymous No.4048273]

>>4048265
>>4044043
well, with that in mind I guess the natural question is: So what's really hot right now?
However.... Personally I don't really care about catering to an audience other than trying to produce solid, consistent, and an engaging body of work.

[Anonymous No.4048292]

>>4048273
>So what's really hot right now?
Kids graphic novels. Raina Telgemeier books are some of the biggest ones. They're actually big mainstream sellers and get lots of recognition.

[Anonymous No.4048299]

>>4048265
>how many people read anything but the 1% of flagship shonen manga?
A shitton of nip readers. Most of the popular manga people scanlate isn’t even from big mags like Jump or it’s variants.
Manga, unlike anime which has the nerd reputation, is a ton more mainstream than western comics.
>how many people who watch anime read manga too?
Who cares they’re basically different industries despite the number of adaptations.
>how many people who read manga actually buy manga instead of reading scanlations?
Most manga sales is magazines and tankoubons sell shitloads. (they’re not as expensive in japan though)
>It's surely not as dead as capeshit but it's not the paradise people think
Nothing is as dead as capeshit.

[Anonymous No.4048304]

>>4048299
I mean in the West, anon
You're not Japanese and never will be

[Anonymous No.4048315]

>>4048304
The west isn’t relevant to the manga industry though.
That’s like expecting capeshit to care about people outside the Marvel/DC/Diamond offices or for Duck comics to care about non-euros. You’re not the relevant market.

[Anonymous No.4048322]

>>4048315
>You’re not the relevant market.
I assumed this was a discussion between creators and not consumers

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[Anonymous No.4049215]

>>4049209
youve got good looking rendering and colors. the only glaring issue i see is that the tv literally gets wider from panel to panel

[Anonymous No.4049235]

>>4049209
This looks great man, do you have somewhere you're posting this?

[Anonymous No.4049389]

>>4049215
Thank you.and yes i admit im pretty loose on that kind of stuff, i forget that its distracting
>>4049235
I'm not posting it anywhere, Its a 50 pages project but i might redo it from the beggining, it needs better writing.
I have 15 pages right now i can post them here if theres interest

[Anonymous No.4049449]

>>4044198
Fuck framed ink, read Will Eisner.

[Anonymous No.4049470]

>>4049209
Make the TV glow more
Looks fuckin great

[Anonymous No.4049471]

>>4049389
Do it

[Anonymous No.4049485]

>>4049389
i am interested friend

[Anonymous No.4049504]

>>4049449
I need to get that one too, but what's wrong with Framed Ink?

[Anonymous No.4049524]

>>4049504
framed ink is great, I dunno why that anon hates it
also the eisner books don't even cover what framed ink covers so it makes no sense

[Anonymous No.4049537]

>>4049504
Understanding of the medium, Framed Ink is a great book for ideas on composition I just think its very single minded with a focus on "cool" shots over substance and the bigger picture. If you're reading something for comics then it benefits you to consider paneling, pacing, the frame itself (nearlly everything in framed ink is the same filmic layout). People often talk of how well made the manga Witchhat Atelier is and Will Eisner covers a lot of those concepts in his book. He also educates about comics while using comics.
>>4049524
It's a great book for illustration and storyboarding for modern blockbuster type films, not so much for comics. There are takeaways and considerations I just don't think its as good or practical as will eisners books. Assuming people even read even a quarter of either.

Image as a comparison between the knowledge being dispensed.

[Anonymous No.4049550]

>>4049537
Ah I see, I've only read the Scott McCloud books for that kinda thing, I'll check that out along with his comics.

[Anonymous No.4049559]

>>4047254
Been using Notepad++ for my script too. I actually downloaded it to because of its syntax highlighting, specifically the PHP one.

[Anonymous No.4049611]

>>4049537
in that bottom shot all i can focus on is that man's fabulous stripy trousers

[Anonymous No.4049633]

>>4047254
i use trelby(free film script software)

[Anonymous No.4049657]

>>4049471
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[Anonymous No.4049692]

whats the difference between a webcomic and a graphic novel on the internet?

[Anonymous No.4049699]

>>4045904
The national lottery has better odds. Do it out of passion if you do.

[Anonymous No.4049758]

>>4049673
It's certainly different and interesting just on that alone. Some of the pages are considerably better than others for their flow while some are just awkward to read with poorly used overlapping elements.
>>4049661
The page composition here is really awkward and the flow of time is bizarre. The bottom left panel feels like it should be the last with how its laid out.
>>4049662
Likewise, I have no idea whats going on with the panel breaks here. it looks like the character is a giant in the 4th panel and having the smoke flow like isn't the worst idea its just executed poorly, especially so if it's the main character in the foreground of panel 3.
>>4049665
Probably the best layout amongst the lot.

Theres a whole host of other minor issues but it depends on whether you even give a fuck about feedback if you're already intending on reworking it.

[Anonymous No.4050070]

>>4049758
Yeah thats why i want to start again with a different rythm to the story, i need to take my time more. Feedback is of course welcome

[Anonymous No.4050081]

>>4049673
really like your coloring
>>4049663
I love all the life you put in this one, its very chaotic and interesting. I feel like you should work more on the composition overall, or be just more abstract and less cinematic

[Anonymous No.4050084]

>>4050070
you still want to make it mute? Some dialog can help giving it more ritm.

[Anonymous No.4050279]

>>4050081
Thanks, i know i need to plan this out better, im kinda eyeballing everything because it takes so much time and earns 0$. But im going to rework it from the beginning.

>>4050084
The story im trying to tell is pretty ridiculous but forme it is about language and symbols and whatnot, i figured not using words would be best if mastered. Idealy the only text would be the title. Here is a test for the cover which im also going to redo
Thanks for the interest

[Anonymous No.4052066]

I just realized I'm actually gonna start my manga vague and fill in the plot holes gaps as time went by.
Starting the manga with full details will only stress you out.

[Anonymous No.4052073]

>>4050279
Do you have a blog or insta or something? I really like your work

[Anonymous No.4052191]

>>4050279
>i know i need to plan this out better, im kinda eyeballing everything because it takes so much time and earns 0$
yeah, I know that feeling. Still interesting job, i just love your coloring.
Here's my last page, unfortunately i've still no story, i'm just drawing things i like without thinking too much.

[Anonymous No.4052210]

>>4052191
nice. I'd make that bottom panel a tad larger. Looks great though

[Anonymous No.4052219]

https://dalsifodyas.artstation.com/projects/w9O6g?album_id=57847

Drew a over 100 pages long Star Wars comic, still on it. Since I've been working on it for three years, you can at least see my "progress" nicely...

>Image related to prove my autistm

I know I'm a NGMI

[Anonymous No.4052231]

>>4052191
Very cool style.

You could even try something like pic related with that panel, to give some dynamism (forgive for sloppy patch job).

[Anonymous No.4052289]

>>4052231
>>4052210
Thats a million times better, thanks!

[Anonymous No.4052355]

how do i write a story? hlp pls

[Anonymous No.4052381]

>>4052219
>Its a le funny girl who spouts the funny dialogue
Thanks for being honest and showing me to stay away from your comic anon

[Anonymous No.4052445]

>>4052289
Cheers!

>>4052355
You could always look for examples to help with format. On the creative side, just think about what interest you. For me, it's scifi fantasy, existentialism, the occult and whatever bullshit political/ personal situation I'm trying to process at the moment. After ruminating on that for an evening( generally under some illicit influence) I have a vague idea of a scene or arc. From there on its sanding the edges until I have something to commit to the page. Could take an hour, could take a week or six months. Get enough of them, you might even end up with your own universe.

[Anonymous No.4052464]

>>4052355
>>4052445
also

[Anonymous No.4052487]

>>4047396
Art its nice
Fells a little too empty
Story is boring

[Anonymous No.4052548]

Any advice on what program to use for speech bubbles? Or should I just pay the jewpanese for a CSP subscription?

Mac/Windows is fine. IOS preferred for faster workflow.

[Anonymous No.4052595]

Does anyone know how to post comics to instagram without butchering all your comic art or making it a friggin square. Do i fucking look like a square to you instagram . I mean if my art is gonna be butchered by any shape it should at least be a star because that's who i am or is the site only meant for spongebob squarepants fanart

[Anonymous No.4052596]

>>4052595
Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.4052609]

>>4044085
>write what you know
>tfw you know nothing

[Anonymous No.4052617]

i wanna commit to making one comic

[Anonymous No.4052635]

Would you guys read a comic book about a completely magicless lad in a world where literally everyone else is a wizard/have superpowers?

In a magical accident our MC, an average but bright guy, gets summoned into a fantasy world. Because he has no magic whatsoever he's treated like a retarded, disabled person. MC, bitter because of how he is treated, decides to use his analytical mind to learn how to harness magic for himself - each issue would be about a single experiment, usually ending in a failure. It's a slippery slope - each experiment is slightly more controversial than a previous one. Eventually MC's obsession with magic pushes him to experiment with illegal dark, bloody rituals; our hero slowly turns into an edgy anti-hero that's hunted by magical police.

While this comic would mostly focus on action and adventure I also want it to force readers to think about things like "where does talent come from?", "is being talented necessary to be happy?", "should I give up on my dreams just because I don't think I'm talented enough to reach them?" and so on.

What do you guys think?

[Anonymous No.4052655]

>>4052635
>Isekai
The premise isn't too my taste, but I'm sure there's a market for it.
It's good you have a basic story arc planned out, but you need to flash it out more and think more about how it would work mechanically, and if you feel like you could confidently create/execute it.
>each issue would be about a single experiment, usually ending in a failure. It's a slippery slope - each experiment is slightly more controversial than a previous one.
This is something that might work in something like a serialized manga, but you should consider a few factors
>1. Would you be able to write episodic adventures that are consistently engaging? Try writing out some detailed outlines for chapters like this too see how comfortable you are with the format
>2. Would you enjoy drawing episodic adventures? It's clear you have this grand conclusion you want to get to in the story, so because episodic adventures only move the plot forward bit by bit you may get quickly bored of them and become unhappy working on the comic, as you're taking too long to get to what you really want to make
In general I'd recommend trimming down your story ideas to be shorter rather than longer, and make sure each chapter is significant and necessary. Maybe instead of having many chapters of experiments, you could boil it down to the one experiment that causes him to change. It's usually good to focus on "turning points" when you think about your story, as those are usually going to be the parts most engaging to your audience.

[Anonymous No.4052656]

>>4052635
Sounds like mix of my hero academia and dorohedoro. I don't like the premise but it really depends on the execution.

[Anonymous No.4052666]

i alright posted this on /co/ but ehh why not..

>chap 1

http://radgirlamia.smackjeeves.com/chapters/108780/chapter-1-easy-money/

>chap 2
http://radgirlamia.smackjeeves.com/chapters/116977/chapter-2-copy-cat/

[Anonymous No.4052773]

>>4052666
dude this is very good.

[Anonymous No.4052857]

>>4052635
honestly i would change the premise to be MC was born in that world as a no superpowers boy, like argus filch from harry potter or the main guy from sky high. since if he's summoned the readers will focus on: why was he summoned, how will he get back, is he stealing something he feels entitled to from a world he's not actually part of etc. i'm sure you could do it your way too, but if you're not doing anything with the other world aspect i'd reconsider it

[Anonymous No.4052867]

>>4052666
Wasn't impressed by part 1 but I went smoothly through it which is already a lot for me. Then part 2 was surprisingly enjoyable and funny, I really loved it. The art is charming in its own way and you draw funny expressions.

If you tone down things a notch for TV, part 2 would be a great pilot for a cartoon, you should pitch it to studios, I swear. BUT you have to iron it out a bit, fix the grammar errors like you're/your, and learn to use color a little bit so it doesn't turn out like an eyesore. This could be a diamond in the rough, the main characters are funny and you got a knack for it.
Keep working at it and learn some comic paneling / lettering by observing artists you like so you end up with something a bit more polished but DON'T lose that look you have right now, ignore the people ITT who will inevitably tell you it's shit. Once you have enough good material consider a pitch.

[Anonymous No.4052876]

>>4052666
also take your blessed trips as an omen

[Anonymous No.4052893]

>>4052381
It's the one sassy character in a cast of ~15 and besides that I like to stay tame and don't include any over the top stuff, but I can see how using this example was a bad idea.

I'll try to make better choices in the future as example for my comics. Thanks for tipping me off into that direction!

[Anonymous No.4052902]

>>4052219
>Drew a over 100 pages long Star Wars comic
I really hope you got paid to draw 100 pages of fucking Star Wars

[Anonymous No.4052907]

>>4052902
Nuh I just like it... I drew actually more than 100 ... I also drew a 150 pages comic about Meta Knight and Kirby comics... ... and Last Airbender Comics... oh a 100 Pages comic about Dishonored....

I just like drawing comics - I'm a NGMI anyway so why not have fun

[Anonymous No.4053070]

Because, people are too obsessed with either concept art and anime (titties).

[Anonymous No.4053080]

>>4052907
post it on the internet
if it is good you might become a gmi, studios hiring fans isn't unheard of

i'd say your drawing skills are pretty decent, i've definitely seen worse published art, it's page layout and writing that are letting you down

[Anonymous No.4053086]

>>4052907
Based and passionpilled. I'm glad you're doing what you love even if other anons mock you for it. Don't let the crabs get you down when you've probably made more comics than any of them.

[Anonymous No.4053104]

>>4052464
That's garbage; read this instead.

[Anonymous No.4053193]

>>4052773
>>4052867

wow thanks for reading anons, i'll make sure my gammar errors are fixed next time is

[Anonymous No.4053300]

>>4053104
Mega it

[Anonymous No.4053339]

>>4053104
>>4053300
Here you go:

https://mega.nz/#!gtNQgY6L!p7vPA_fLOUwxINMBzAX62w_xx282FVQoMhUHDGtiCpE

[Anonymous No.4053382]

>>4053339
Thank you, my dude.

[Anonymous No.4053389]

>>4052073
@Put1fch1e
Thanks

[Anonymous No.4053391]

>>4052191
Really love the style, kinda makes me think of metal slug. Where can i see more

[Anonymous No.4053394]

>>4052907
>Nuh I just like it... I drew actually more than 100
anyway your comic is on par with some official SW stuff I've seen published, you should seriously publish it online or at least show it to whoever is publishing star wars right now

[Anonymous No.4053408]

>>4053394
Wow thank you anon... I'm publishing it online, DA tumblr pixiv artstation... I have a few hundred followers and that's fine to me. I'm happy.

I just wanna get better ... Just wanna be proud of what I creat. That's why I hang here :).

[Anonymous No.4053409]

>>4053394
Besides fuck ye Rich Evans - love me some RLM

[Anonymous No.4053412]

>>4053080
Any tipps on the layout? I simply started drawing comics ten years ago - just to tell stories. Just tried to teach myself everything.

It feels like I got a lot better by now but I'm happy for any tipps!

[Anonymous No.4053445]

>>4053391
Regular size monster on IG. Also metal slug is my jam.

[Anonymous No.4053483]

How can I get feedback on the rough sketch stage of something that i'm doing? I'm interested about panel flow and just getting an opinion about if the pages are easy to follow or too messy instead.

Also if i'm rushing things too much or if the pace it's alright. But this would be better if done before the drawing stage.

Pic related it's the third chapter of something i'm working on. (Sorry it's not in english tho).

[Anonymous No.4053569]

patreon.com/offworlder

it's free and I'm not asking anyone to donate, I just host it there.

[Anonymous No.4053841]

>>4052635
That's little witch academia already

[Anonymous No.4054608]

>>4052655
Thanks for the tips Anon! I'll rethink how long this should be - maybe it would be a good idea to focus on something shorter, especially since it's the first time I'm doing anything like this.

>>4052857
> i would change the premise to be MC was born in that world
That's a really good point as well - I could've been influenced a bit by all those Isekai light novels that I've been reading lately. I'll definitely rethink this character. Thank you.

>>4052656
>>4053841
>it's like this anime
Are you saying this idea have a huge potential and could become an anime? ;^)

[Anonymous No.4055876]

>>4048158
Low in skill. High in SOUL

[Anonymous No.4056179]

>>4044043
comic pages are drawn like this? i thought all individual panels are their own page during the drawing process?

[Anonymous No.4056196]

>>4056179
Look here folks! This is it, this is the state of /ic/.

[Anonymous No.4056244]

>>4056179
Usually yes, but there are many traditional artists right now that draw individual panels and patch them together digitally. It's a good method if you're doing things homemade on a small scanner, but you have to pay attention to the size you're working with, if you shrink a drawing as you please instead of matching the DPI you're using you end up with different line weights and it's very offputting.

[Anonymous No.4056290]

>>4056179
American comics usually are drawn on 11'x17' bristol boards, Strathmore Bristol 300 series, usually.
The template is pretty standard right now, search it on google.

Now you can draw single panels on smaller sheets of paper, because you can use digital to put the pieces together, the problem is the if you want to sell originals, a single page is better.

[Anonymous No.4056529]

>>4056290
>11 x17

Why not just go for the International Standard paper A series or B Series?

[Anonymous No.4056960]

>>4056529
Because Murica hates normal systems of measurements.

[Anonymous No.4057649]

>>4056529
>>4056960
More or less this, america has it's own paper sizes and comic books are the last big thing to use a non international standard
I do prefer A and B size paper, there is more room to breath and I wish americans adopted it

[Anonymous No.4057875]

>>4056529
I dunno.
You can use either a A3 or a B3, because the size of the of the page + bleed in templates is 10.4 x 15.7 in.
The ratio is 150% of the printed page.

But 11'x17' boards are the standard for some reason, you find it in books about comics, and some brands of paper sell these size as "comic paper".

[Anonymous No.4057880]

>>4056529
tankoubons are A5 or B6 usually

[Anonymous No.4058404]

Sergio Toppi has a wonderful style and the way he composes his pages is awesome.

[Anonymous No.4058411]

>>4058404

[Anonymous No.4058430]

>>4058404
i bought a bunch of his comics recently to see if it helps me loosen up my classic paneling/compositions

[Anonymous No.4058605]

>>4058404
I don’t think anyone has ever been able to do what he did with comics, he’s truly one of a kind. Plenty of people take inspiration from the way he draws, hatches, exaggerates shapes, etc but I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone compose free flowing pages and still tell a coherent story like he does with Sharaz-De.

[Anonymous No.4058662]

>>4058404
I have this in print, it's great. Toppi is basically Italian Moebius

[Anonymous No.4059245]

I'm starting out trying to write a horror action comic set in Australia, feral fallen angels are the cause of the apocalypse.

All art and story are by myself.

Would really love some feedback/criticism.

www.neonangel.thewebcomic.com

[Anonymous No.4059328]

>>4059245
I get what you're doing, but the art is sloppy. I understand the stylistic intent, but there are things like hatching done at the same size instead of tapering lines, lots of unnecessary scribbling, sloppy blacks, etc.
You seems to spend too little time on the pages. Try to make something a bit more refined even if you want to keep it rough looking and loose.
Second, there's bad use of values, you have panels like pic related where it's just lineart and other things scribbled in, this creates patchy blacks that make the panel unpleasant to look at. The sky is darker than the car, but the car isn't white?, the light poles in the background are completely black when they should be lighter (background elements go higher in value)
Try to make your panels more focused, imagine there's a spotlight on the most important thing going on in the panel. If the zombie with the shotgun is the most important thing, put the spotlight on that.
What would your ideal version of this comic look like?
The writing is OK, I like that you show things instead of explaining everything. I'd cut a bit of the first few pages since I generally find these paragraphs boring and I'd rather have things start
directly with the comic, but that's up to you.

[Anonymous No.4059723]

>>4048322
So do not create manga for Westerners. Create it for Japanese. Don't know moonrunes? Learn them or get ready for less than 10 subscribers.

[Gus No.4059748]

I just completed the 100 page first issue of my long term personal project, The Concord Initiative. I'd love some advice and feedback. I started last August, so it's a year's worth of progress. I think the quality gets better and better as it goes on, but I definitely think I made my significant quality breakthrough toward the last twenty pages or so.

https://tapas.io/series/The-Concord-Initiative

[Gus No.4059750]

>>4059748

[Anonymous No.4059853]

Thoughts on charles burns anyone?

[Anonymous No.4059884]

second time doing this, pushing through other peoples scripts while i do my own story

[Anonymous No.4060183]

>>4059748
>>4059750
Hurry up and get an insta so I can follow your shit better

[Anonymous No.4060253]

>>4052609
it just means you should do research. it doesnt mean only write about high school drama.

[Anonymous No.4060511]

I need some advice on comics. I've wanted to make a comic for so long but no matter how I try to I can't do it, lots of comic artists have probably felt this but its so overpowering I'm not sure what to do. Its everything to do with comics that I feel unable to do, from panel composition to text placement. I've tried and experimented but it never feels right, how can I overcome this feeling? I know the right answer is to just start my comic and keep doing it but I just feel like I can't.

[Anonymous No.4060518]

>>4060511
I think it helps a lot to just jump in with a practice comic. What I mean by that is don't even bother agonizing over a script, just jump in with some sort of story idea and start putting out pages. Will it be good? Probably not, but just getting yourself acclimated to trying to make pages and feeling out what works and what doesn't is a really great experience if you're having trouble making the initial jump.
I was in the same position as you ~3 years ago, and so I just started making a comic with only a vague outline. I made about 100 pages, and it ran for like a year before I gave up, and it was frankly a mess, but it was a great experience because just jumping in and feeling things out as I went taught me a ton, got me comfortable with the medium, and paved the way for me to make better comics in the future.

[Anonymous No.4060682]

>>4059328
Thanks for the reply, I do think you've hit the nail on the head.

Hopefully next chapter I can improve.

[Anonymous No.4060684]

>>4059853
very creepy stuff. He is like a horror Daniel Clowes.

[Anonymous No.4060705]

>>4044063

show us what you've done so far

[Anonymous No.4060715]

>>4056179
>>4056244
>>4056290
>>4056529
>>4056960
>>4057649
>>4057875
>>4057880
Can one of y'all explain the difference between A/B series and 11x17? I'm too American for this shit.

[Anonymous No.4060719]

>>4060715
A/B/C series are international standards. A4 is sized to 210 mm x 297 mm. Each A-series paper size has twice/half as much surface area as its neighbouring numbers. A4 has twice the surface area of A5, and half as much as A3. The short side of A4 is the same length as the long side of A5.

American 11x7 sizes are just arbitrary numbers that someone thought looked good, sorry.

[Anonymous No.4060725]

>>4060682
I'm still not sure what your intent is but check out James Stokoe

[Anonymous No.4060767]

Maybe some of you guys would be interested in Druillet.
Great psychedelic art, inspired George Lucas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kImL7-SfJQk

[Anonymous No.4060770]

>>4060767
https://youtu.be/Tyngv0MnHjE
https://youtu.be/8182YrAbfF4
https://youtu.be/_kKMbdOQCWs
https://youtu.be/NXQcOOm8fTc

https://youtu.be/NBLgEryCvzw

[Anonymous No.4060831]

>>4052066
Holy shit you're a retard

[Gus No.4061485]

>>4060183
I’m setting all that up this week. I’m excited to start really pumping out some actual quality.

[Anonymous No.4061548]

>>4045286
sounds pretty interesting desu

[Anonymous No.4061554]

>>4044130
reminds me of hellboy

[Anonymous No.4061581]

trying to make an esports comic, ive only done a couple of one pagers so far, been thinking about it for a couple of months now im just gonna fail quickly with some scripts i have and go from there, wish me luck

[Anonymous No.4061599]

I'm making a comic for Webtoon about the adventure of a girl from the 19th century to save her mother. Nobody reads it, but it's fun to draw.

[Anonymous No.4061601]

>>4061599
Give link

[Anonymous No.4061604]

>>4061599
Forgot the link https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/sarahs-plant/list?title_no=289190

[Anonymous No.4061624]

>>4061599
I really like it. Nice an simple. Cute. But there are quite a few mistakes with the sentences. Is english not your first language? I would get someone to help you translate as they are actually quite simple fixes but the dialogue could be improved quite a bit.

[Anonymous No.4061648]

>>4061624
Thank you very much for the criticism! Yeah you're right, English isn't my native language, but I tried to make the comic in english to appeal to a larger audience.

[Anonymous No.4061653]

>>4061648
are you french?

[Anonymous No.4061665]

>>4061653
I'm from Mexico

[Anonymous No.4064524]

ive only done a couple im pretty new to making them. script is from a friend

[Anonymous No.4064532]

>>4064524
Cute.
I think more contrast would work well with the style you're going for, using too many mid-greys makes the panels less readable

[Anonymous No.4064571]

>>4044059
Either have the setting be really vague, so it isn't at all clear which country it used to be in, set it in a country most of your audience aren't familiar with or write what you know and just set it in your country (if it is an actual third-world country, you may be able to get good-boy-points for this if you are willing to make it a bit woke, especially if the apocalypse is climate change and you play up the whole third-world getting hit hardest angle).

[Anonymous No.4064572]

>>4061599
your style is interesting. I feel like you should embrace your stylization and try to simplify even more your shots and concentrate on the composition. I have some good Tezuka vibes, but there's a lack of confidence.
tl;dr
You are onto something.

[Anonymous No.4064577]

>>4064532
thxx, yeah i agree, the original intention was to let the biggest contrast be on the creatures and be a bit moody but it just comes off as an inconveniance

i generally rush things mainly cause im a /beg, this is the one i did after that one, tried doing the lettering too

>>4059884

[Anonymous No.4065592]

okay, so, if you're looking to get a graphic novel published, do you create it first and then look for the publisher, or vice versa?

[Anonymous No.4065610]

>>4052596
I can't believe you gave Bender an ass

[Anonymous No.4065657]

>>4065592
You create a portfolio with the script, character informations and 10/20 finished pages .

[Anonymous No.4065663]

>>4065657
nice, thanks

is the character informations kind of like a pitch bible?
https://www.scribd.com/document/3122798/Adventure-Time-series-presentation?campaign=SkimbitLtd&ad_group=68756X1554900X376ed7fbf8805b410d60e5f26cffe370&keyword=660149026&source=hp_affiliate&medium=affiliate

[Anonymous No.4065729]

>>4065592

Usually for an american publisher you just need the synopsis and 12 finished pages.

You may need more or less depending on the publisher.

Check this:
>https://jasonthibault.com/definitive-list-comic-publisher-submission-guidelines/

But keep in mind: you can self publish your stuff right now and if the comic is good you can still sell it later to a publisher.

Probably if you're not experienced is better to put stuff on social media a try crowdfunding first.
I say "probably" because I'm italian and for your first graphic novel here even "big" publishers offers you almost nothing, so starting with them doesn't make a lot of sense anymore.

[Anonymous No.4065736]

>>4065729
ah, that's true

my stuff probably isn't very social media friendly. not a lot of waifus, just quiet drama stuff

[Anonymous No.4065749]

>>4044043
I’ve been brainstorming a story about the “last T. rex,” who somehow survived the asteroid, and is now left to explore the dying land with her daughter. The dinosaurs died in about two hours after impact so it would feature a lot of violent, surreal death. Basically it’s about how a dominant species is still at the mercy of nature and how easily it can be flung into extinction.

I’m not sure if the dinosaurs should talk. They are a more advanced society, so it would help to explain lore and make parallels with humanity - and connect with a broader audience. But then given the serious subject matter and the realism I’m going for, I’m just not sure if talking would hurt or help the story more.

[Anonymous No.4065765]

How much do featured artists earn from Webtoon these days?

[Anonymous No.4065769]

>>4052609
only very few people should write

[Anonymous No.4065773]

>>4065729
Italian here too, publishing my second book soon. Its true, I've yet to see some money.

[Anonymous No.4065774]

>>4065729
Italian here
In my opinion it doesn't make sense to try to publish in Italy and in Italian, better to try in English to have more audience with kickstart or other like you said.

You probably do even more than the 0.50 / 1 euro you would have for copy sold in Italy.

[have a nice cup of sage No.4065824]

>>4065774
What made you get to this conclusion? Have you tried attending cons? have you tried France/French?
Fellow Italian here, I came to the very opposite conclusion after trying webcomics/social media for so long and I want to drop the internet to attempt traditional publishing. I know it's gonna be hard and traditional publishing is extremely night but I think what you can do on the internet is limited to a few genres.
I see a lot of BD and Italian artists with no social media presence at all but they're well known and they get published.

[Anonymous No.4065827]

>>4065774
What made you get to this conclusion? Have you tried attending cons? have you tried France/French?
Fellow Italian here, I came to the very opposite conclusion after trying webcomics/social media for so long and I want to drop the internet to attempt traditional publishing. I know it's gonna be hard and traditional publishing is extremely night but I think what you can do on the internet is limited to a few genres.
I see a lot of BD and Italian artists with no social media presence at all but they're well known and they get published.

[Anonymous No.4065867]

>>4065749
that sounds like a cool premise.

make give the dinos narration boxes?

[Anonymous No.4065881]

>>4044059
>A catastrophic world set in my third world country would be lame as fuck.
Why? There is surely something interesting about your country. Look at District 9

[Anonymous No.4065884]

>>4065827
what numbers did you reach on the web?
I also have a webcomics in English and probably has reached many more readers/followers than traditional publishing in Italy.

I made the conclusion from many experiences of other artists I know, and simple calculations, it is not even a question of being published but of how much you earn.

You have 3 typical cases
- a small / unknown publisher who cheats you and you will never get paid or cents.
- famous / known publisher who publishes you but for a very small gain 0.50 / 1 euro per copy sold and the print runs are around 1000/2000 copies so make the calculation of the profit.
- Do you join a Top, Bonelli? but to get in I know from many that the recommendation is needed.

And in all these cases you lose the rights of your work, you give them to the publisher.

With self-publishing / kickstarter other
The rights are yours, and if it goes wrong you most likely have earned the same money as the first and second case.

[Anonymous No.4065895]

>>4065884
What about France? Lots of italians work in France.

[Anonymous No.4066102]

>>4065867
I thought about that too. I'll have to play around a bit to see what feels right, because I don't want to spoonfeed my audience or treat them like they can't figure it out. It might take away the meaning idk. Maybe I'm overthinking their reactions.

[Anonymous No.4066111]

>>4066102
It's not about spoonfeeding your audience or not. It's more on your ability to tell (and show) what you want in a understandable way. If you are not able without spoonfeeding then spoonfeed.

[Anonymous No.4066114]

>>4044043
Is webtoon any good to get hooked up with? Looks simpler than trying to pull stunts with manga, but I hear you get paid based on chapter likes which sounds strange. I mean sure, manga probably doesn't make much more, but the strike rate with manga seems tough as hell.

[Anonymous No.4066120]

>>4066111
That's true. I guess I should stop thinking so much and draw more lol

[Anonymous No.4066235]

New comic strip
@lacoticus

[Anonymous No.4066253]

Anime fights: Fights between famous anime characters.

Hisoka vs Kite (Hunter X Hunter):

https://tapas.io/episode/1472091

[Anonymous No.4066289]

>>4066235
They look like traps

[Anonymous No.4066296]

I wish I could make a webcomic drawn really sketchy like this but I don't think it would fly next to inked/colored stuff on a site like tapas. I remember back in the early 2000s a lot of webcomics were drawn like this.
I had a similar idea with another simple style but I'm not sure.

[Anonymous No.4066641]

>>4066296
You can do sketchy ink

[Anonymous No.4067080]

>>4066641
This would be a side thing 'cause I'm already working on a comic. The idea was doing just sketches but updating every day. I'll probably end up doing something like this just to see if it works.

[Anonymous No.4067405]

>>4066641
This artist has one good manga but his art is awful.

[Anonymous No.4067583]

Do you guys use premade fonts or do you write the text yourself? I think certain popular fonts can't be used for commercial publishing. I'm thinking about handwriting the text, but I don't know if it's gonna take too much work.

[Anonymous No.4067586]

>>4067583
Also, another thing: manga scanlators usually have lots of "widows" and "orphans" since japanese balloons are rounder and sometimes vertical. Would it be alright if I did the same? It's how I'm used to read comics, horizontal balloons with straight text just feel weird to me.

[Anonymous No.4067968]

>>4067583
you use a font unless you want your hands to drop off, boyo

you can buy a font for commercial use for not a lot of money, and free for indie webcomic use

https://blambot.com/pages/licenses

[Anonymous No.4068253]

>>4044043
My comic is called the world crusher i dont want to talk much about it because i know plenty of idea stealers love to browse these forms but until i establish it in the media heres a page

[Anonymous No.4068257]

>>4067583
i think if youre good at calligraphy writing your font would be especially useful to further portray how your character is saying something or emphasis things like that but selecting good fonts for certain dialogues can do the same i guess writing your fonts is more impressive and finding your fonts is more efficient

[Gus No.4068408]

I'd like to put out three or more smaller concept pieces each week during the hiatus of my comic, and I'd like to have exercpts of letters and such accompanying them. Do people care about such things?

[Gus No.4068409]

>>4068408

[Anonymous No.4068495]

Make new thread please.

[Anonymous No.4069072]

>>4048213
>gay nigga vampires
Bah gawd

[Anonymous No.4069080]

>>4049661
>pulls made ya look card
goddamn