So KJG has an online course now. It's pretty expensive and imo not worth the full price for it's length. Did anyone buy it? Thoughts? https://www.kazoneonline.com/p/figures-in-perspective

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Anonymous Wed Jul 24 18:53:43 2019 No.4033397 [Reply] [Original]

So KJG has an online course now. It's pretty expensive and imo not worth the full price for it's length. Did anyone buy it? Thoughts?

https://www.kazoneonline.com/p/figures-in-perspective

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 18:54:54 2019 No.4033399 >>4033397 Dude can't even speak english, why would anyone sign up for that...

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 18:55:17 2019 No.4033400 >>4033397 it still wont make you make it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 19:04:41 2019 No.4033420 How to make souless art, the course, only for 200 dollaroonies.

Anonymous Wed Jul 24 19:05:04 2019 No.4033421

>>4033397
Way overpriced but I respect Kim's hustle. There's nothing Kim will teach you that you can't learn anywhere else. Just look at the course titles and study similar courses on NMA. There's no secret to how he draws, he is just extremely practiced in costumed figure drawing, anatomy and animal drawing all in dynamic perspectives.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 19:05:20 2019 No.4033422 >>4033420 clearly you didnt see his artbooks

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 19:07:40 2019 No.4033425 File: 44 KB, 600x600, 1430290210707.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4033420

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 19:18:28 2019 No.4033440 based hope to see it on cgp withen a week.But i assume it is gnomln master class like, and any beginner will fell like a retard watching it, mot understanding anything.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 19:50:14 2019 No.4033498 >>4033421 see >>4032380 The superani artists apparently use a more "analytical" approach, which is different from the usual "gesture" apptoach that NMA teaches. I'd love to get a better insight into the method, even if it truly isn't that different.

Anonymous Wed Jul 24 19:53:51 2019 No.4033510
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>>4033397
this dude is so used to drawing in warped perspective he can't even draw a figure straight on. there's no point in paying him $200 bucks to watch him do this shit for 4 hours. Just watch is lectures on youtube, it's basically the same thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 19:56:09 2019 No.4033519 >>4033510 so, this is the power of Kim Jung Gi?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 19:59:02 2019 No.4033529 >>4033510 It looks good though

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 20:01:12 2019 No.4033536 >>4033529 lower leg and feet are totally fucked.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 20:02:47 2019 No.4033542 >>4033510 redline it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 20:03:42 2019 No.4033545 >>4033536 no they’re not. if you can do better then fix them

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 20:04:36 2019 No.4033546 >>4033519 he posts much better work for his social media, yet another reason why I wouldn't pay for this course. >>4033529 the perspective is all fucked up. not to mention the figure looks like a potato with legs. wtf

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 20:04:44 2019 No.4033547 >>4033545 Take it easy Kim.

Anonymous Wed Jul 24 20:40:54 2019 No.4033603

>>4033498
Interesting. I think there is something to be said about how different practicing drawing with a permanent medium is - how it changes the entire act of drawing and how you think of it if you want to make a good drawing vs. building up from a gesture

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 02:43:04 2019 No.4034013 File: 6 KB, 257x196, blue mouse.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >can't color

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 02:49:45 2019 No.4034017 >>4033510 >those highass collar bones lol wut

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 02:52:15 2019 No.4034020 >>4033546 >>4033536 >>4033510 >>4034017 Sure smells like Dunning-Kruger in here

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 02:55:47 2019 No.4034021 File: 44 KB, 599x599, FNwhM6uC.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] but he said he doesn't even use the methods he's teaching

Anonymous Thu Jul 25 03:23:16 2019 No.4034036

>>4033510
>>4033536
>>4033519
Now KJG can't draw KEK. This is some fox and the grapes shit. He probably sketched that in 3 seconds.
I wouldn't wanna learn from him because I don't see the appeal in his style, I don't care about drawing mad curvilinear perspective straight on with a brush pen, I think he's so detached in terms of method that you can't possibly learn from him, and fundamentally I don't care about KJG.
But saying he can't draw is plain retarded, he's a fucking alien.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 03:31:18 2019 No.4034041 >>4034036 He's basically a meme artist like Amano.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 03:35:57 2019 No.4034043 not a single one of you can draw as well as kim and youre too stupid to understand why and how he draws like he does its actually an incredible feat of irony at this point this thread is a joke jesus H christ

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 03:39:06 2019 No.4034046 File: 732 KB, 680x794, 1556067794280.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4034041 >like Amano

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 03:44:58 2019 No.4034048 >>4034043 nobody wants to draw like him learn the difference

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 03:58:02 2019 No.4034058 >>4034048 Everyone wants to draw like him and has done for years, that's why this dumb meme of ironically hating him has surfaced, it's the same as hating loomis books.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 04:15:38 2019 No.4034078 >>4034058 >has done for years Oh thank god. Less competition.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 07:20:49 2019 No.4034216 >>4034013 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-_f2Ngn8O0

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 07:22:15 2019 No.4034217 all this envy all this resentment this is why you'll never make it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 07:38:30 2019 No.4034229 File: 5 KB, 318x159, ret.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4034021 no, he said that about 1 section of his book

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 07:49:50 2019 No.4034241 >>4034043 And you understand him oh wise one?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 08:02:14 2019 No.4034251 >>4034241 >oh wise one absolute brainlet response

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 08:06:26 2019 No.4034254 >only 4 hours lamo

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 08:07:40 2019 No.4034256 >>4028183 >two threads

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 08:11:31 2019 No.4034264 looks like shit. I don't know the appeal.

Anonymous Thu Jul 25 08:42:07 2019 No.4034297

>>4034036
>>4034020
>>4034043

>>4033546 , here
can any of you read? I said he posts better work on his social media, not that he can't draw. the figure in the video is ugly as fuck. why should anyone pay for a half-assed course by an artist who we know can draw better than that? at this point he knows he doesn't have to put in the effort because there are a bunch of people like you who will suck his dick for a circle drawing "lesson". as far as the demo shows there doesn't appear to be anything different from the stuff he's already posted online for free.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 08:51:08 2019 No.4034305 Basically no person on earth proved he can draw better without refs than this guy, and losers on here think they are in position to give critiques.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 09:41:17 2019 No.4034369 >>4034305 So what, he deserves a medal for that? Are you buying a 200 trumperinos course just because he can draw without ref? This thread is about his course.>>4034305

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 10:04:32 2019 No.4034406 >>4033420 He only draws soulless art for money. This is what he likes to draw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBq0ghOKxes

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 10:13:50 2019 No.4034422 >>4034406 >Draws hentai and women in dressing rooms on his own time fucking based

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 14:34:36 2019 No.4034771 >>4034369 pyw

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 15:08:30 2019 No.4034824 >>4034406 if you cant see the soul in that, I am afraid you are the one lacking in soul

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 15:12:35 2019 No.4034831 >>4034297 If it's an ugly figure draw a better one

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 15:37:37 2019 No.4034857 >>4034406 >soulless >literally brings forth entirely fantastical scenes from his mind with almost no flaws Soulless is just another word for "stop liking what i don't like"

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 18:14:10 2019 No.4035061 >>4034857 you're in love with the process, not with the piece itself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 18:25:12 2019 No.4035080 File: 16 KB, 400x300, retardsonic.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4034831 >you can't like an artist without loving every single thing they make

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 18:28:20 2019 No.4035087 >>4035080 Just draw a better figure and then I’ll listen

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 18:34:06 2019 No.4035097 >>4035087 lol who gives a shit whether you're listening or not dude

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 18:37:54 2019 No.4035104 There are currently 4 threads about this guy on the 1st page. MODS!

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 18:42:09 2019 No.4035112 >>4034256 Let's make it three

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 18:44:24 2019 No.4035119 >>4035104 All on topic and legal. Don’t disturb the jannies

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 01:39:00 2019 No.4035713 File: 90 KB, 1024x1024, 1557997174285.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4034216 >>4034406 >>4035041 is it just me, or all this videos are tittle "[YouTube] Forbidden or Private (embed)"?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 02:49:28 2019 No.4035786 >>4034824 >>4034857 Wtf are you on about? I was responding to the other Anon by posting his sketchbook that actually has soul.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 03:35:30 2019 No.4035821 I think I am going to buy the course tonight. I’ll let you guys know if I do

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 03:59:46 2019 No.4035844 >>4035821 You don’t have to S H A R E but do let us know what is it like and whatnot pls

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 04:11:13 2019 No.4035852

>>4035061
I liked his drawings before i realised that he'd just bang them out in two seconds. I liked the composition and curved perspective. Think the first image I saw was the school girl with a sniper. Also the cityscape sketch with the dude getting a blowjob in the corner.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 04:15:15 2019 No.4035856 >>4035852 >>4035061 Also have a lot of energy to them. great visual storytelling.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 15:16:07 2019 No.4036589 File: 2.50 MB, 4032x3024, 2233FE68-D183-46C2-BDC9-437208BB954D.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bought the course, watching it now

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 15:20:20 2019 No.4036601 >>4036589 is it any good? how's his explanations?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 15:22:18 2019 No.4036606 >>4036601 Still in the first 20 minutes, too early to draw conclusions, but I’ll keep this thread updated

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 15:23:14 2019 No.4036608 >>4036606 I wanns know as well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 15:23:15 2019 No.4036609 >>4036589 post it on cgpeers or mega ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 15:23:23 2019 No.4036610 >>4036606 thanks anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 15:27:20 2019 No.4036614 KJG: King of the symbol drawers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 15:34:40 2019 No.4036630 File: 572 KB, 750x720, 263B3B03-213B-40FF-926E-ECBB99ED6AB3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Still at it. He always starts the head drawing the forehead, foregoing the typical circle with the cross

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 15:36:58 2019 No.4036634 >>4036630 look like your usual watch me draw kinda courses, you got scammed anon

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 15:41:26 2019 No.4036644 >>4036634 He speaks a lot and gives a lot of tips, which is enjoyable. Some things I can apply to my own stuff

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 15:45:23 2019 No.4036650 >>4036634 this KJG got too famous and it's gone to his head. he'll be shilling these gimmicks until he dies.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:19:41 2019 No.4036699 >>4036606 Based

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:24:28 2019 No.4036709 Ok the first thing that annoys me is that for the price, it could have been filmed better, and by that, I mean that when the camera zooms in to see him drawing, it goes into a slightly angled view, and not a flat view

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:26:22 2019 No.4036710 >>4036709 From the preview, the sound quality is crap. It’s probably better to just save and go for cgma or go cheaper and do nma

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:27:24 2019 No.4036711 >>4036630 Please share this comrade

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:30:29 2019 No.4036713
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>>4036710
The sound quality is the least of the my complains really. Its passable, and of course there are subtitles, so you can even watch it on mute. Its this skewed perspective that’s getting at me

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:36:05 2019 No.4036724 >>4036713 >Its this skewed perspective that’s getting at me redline it or post your work to prove you're better than him. if you can't then shut up, crab.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 16:44:25 2019 No.4036737 >>4036724 I’m talking about the skewed perspective the camera is at

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 20:14:10 2019 No.4036951 >>4035713 Baka baka

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 20:32:32 2019 No.4036969 >>4036724 Kek, stupid brainlet.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 21:01:01 2019 No.4036983

>>4036589
This looks like a scam course where you won't learn shit and instead you watch the guy stroke his dick lol thanks for your $$$.

I've bought many courses and out of all of them only very few % actually genuinely wanted to share you information. The rest was dick stroking.

Anonymous Fri Jul 26 21:36:41 2019 No.4037000

>>4036983
What kind of information would you find useful? I find watching people draw very helpful, but moreso than anything I've learned the most from just copying artists I like, but I hang on most everything Kim says because I like his work so much and his style really resonates with me.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 03:44:14 2019 No.4037427 File: 1.88 MB, 1334x750, A123BF23-5EFE-4B30-B27E-715DF27D3E2B.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Still going through the content

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 03:59:34 2019 No.4037438 post link for full vid annon

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 04:06:35 2019 No.4037442 Are most of you so poor that you think $197 for a course is expensive?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 04:11:32 2019 No.4037445 >>4037442 200$ Is my avg monthly budget for food. The production values of this thing aren’t even professional btw

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 06:11:45 2019 No.4037525 >>4037427 Post what you actually learned

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 06:12:09 2019 No.4037526
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So far, I can only recommend this course if you are the the type of person who can learn by watching others. He just went through the drawing bodies in perspective section without saying anything concrete really. Also the quality of the clips is amateurish. He drew the guy on the upper right, and not once did the camera zoom in so you could watch it better. Some things I can apply to my brush drawings, but so far it’s a hard recommendation. I am still in the middle of the course though. Check my insta as I might post some of the drills I’m doing based on the course https://www.instagram.com/marciobarra_art/?hl=en

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 06:34:20 2019 No.4037542 >>4037526 Would you consider recording it using quicktime or cam studio and uploading it for us?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 06:36:25 2019 No.4037544 >>4037542 there's at least 50 better figure courses than this, no point in uploading another pointless course that will only waste precious HDD space

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 07:40:25 2019 No.4037586 >>4037442 For a 4 hour course? Yeah.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 07:45:12 2019 No.4037591 >>4037544 Yeah, but I feel like almost no one who teaches these courses have as good an understanding of how to actually apply perspective and construction as kim jung gi..

Anonymous Sat Jul 27 07:50:40 2019 No.4037599

>>4037442
For $197 you can buy 15 boxes of 1000 sheets of paper and 50 pens enough to last you for the duration of your entire basic training with a few dollars to spare on tendies. Or you can buy a new external drive or 3 and mass download torrents, saving you buyers remorse. Or etc etc..

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 09:49:32 2019 No.4037678 File: 2.28 MB, 1334x750, 07D7A159-0FF9-48A2-AFE0-B81234F2C3F1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] He’s eating now while drawing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 10:00:07 2019 No.4037690 >>4033399 subtitles

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 10:19:27 2019 No.4037706 File: 2.42 MB, 1334x750, F5E281D4-EB55-4894-9CFB-A65ECCA26216.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] No gaming, just practice

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 10:52:29 2019 No.4037746 >>4037706 Video games will kill an artist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 11:45:33 2019 No.4037805 >>4037678 yummy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 12:25:14 2019 No.4037826 >>4033397 >https://www.kazoneonline.com/p/figures-in-perspective is there a torrent already?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 12:30:34 2019 No.4037831 >>4037591 He’s saying that it is too much effort for a sub par material, to record and upload it etc... If you think it’s most important for you to watch it then save up the coin.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 14:10:33 2019 No.4037987 torrent waiting room

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 16:15:36 2019 No.4038204 >>4037544 He'll have to download them anyway since enrollment only lasts a year, he may as well do it now and share with us

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:19:07 2019 No.4038325 how long before a based pirate anon uploads it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:25:49 2019 No.4038348 >>4035087 > just cook a better dish > can't criticize food if you're not a 5 star chef You're retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:29:03 2019 No.4038356 >>4033397 Can’t wait until an anon shares it so I can eagerly download it, skim through the videos and then let them rot in my hard drive never to be seen again.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:31:20 2019 No.4038363 >>4038356 Not even worth rotting

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 05:23:37 2019 No.4039100 File: 1.64 MB, 1334x750, 2E2BC4A5-BBF2-42E4-9318-82A584E077C2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I’ll finish the content today and put up a small review. Might also share it in a week or so if no was shares it by then

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 05:32:08 2019 No.4039110 >>4039100 thanks d e s u

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 06:02:14 2019 No.4039130 No problem

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 07:17:37 2019 No.4039179 >>4039100 does he teach stuff specifically or is it just watching him sketch with some occasional commentary?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 07:31:47 2019 No.4039184 >>4033397 Just finished it and this looks like youtube vid more than a tut

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 08:04:49 2019 No.4039207 >>4036713 >>4037427 >>4037526 >>4037678 >>4037706 >>4039100 Feels a bit scammy imo. Kinda disappointing to see so much wasted potential.

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 08:08:51 2019 No.4039211

>>4039207
>wasted potential.
this shit again? what world do you live in? do you think any snowflake skill will be a world changer? humans are not born with the ability to transfer over skills, regardless of how skilled one becomes. you will have to do the work yourself, monkey see monkey do, you should be thankful you have the possibility to see what he does so you can try and imitate him if thats what you want to achieve

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 08:11:27 2019 No.4039213 >>4039207 not every good artist can be a good teacher.

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 08:27:04 2019 No.4039233

Based KJG, life goal, have all the fun in life by drawing, doesnt care about money, nobody would take away his hobby people just come to him with bags of money to see him do his thing, doesn't need to work for anyone, some shitty company get to him with another bag of money, he shits this while they are filming him without breaks for food, everyone happy is happy. He can make great tutorial with awesome setup and assignments, but that would require him do something he doesn't want to, absolutely based

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 09:33:19 2019 No.4039276 >>4039233 >doesnt care about money lol if that were true this tutorial would be free like the others posted on youtube. the guy knows what he's doing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 09:44:45 2019 No.4039285 >>4039276 You are right in a sense he cares more about money than about teaching, but i wanted to say if he wanted to really make a bank he would made it himself with superani, but here it's just quick buck for least amount of effort,

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 10:05:42 2019 No.4039305 >>4034017 >>4033510 >>4033536 The perspective is from bellow an invisible floor you retards

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 10:25:51 2019 No.4039334

>>4039179
this looks like any masterclass thing, aka the girlfriend experience of art instruction.. if you want to learn you should be busting your ass with instruction or know better than to waste time with this. you don't learn through osmosis or exposing yourself to resources. a video isn't going to make you better like a book isn't going to make you better because you have it downloaded. this is all useless if you don't draw and get feedback from others.

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 11:31:22 2019 No.4039417
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Anon that bought it. I’m in the last 4 videos. So far, I am terribly disappointed. The first parts where he goes on how to build the head have some good tips there, but still very general. But the thing is that I those sections he is speaking. Once he gets to the full body , he barely speaks, and you just watch him draw in real time, which you can do already in YouTube

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 12:40:07 2019 No.4039462 >>4039417 Can you still refund it ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 12:53:03 2019 No.4039472 >>4039211 >expecting semi-passable production values for a paid video in 2019 is wrong Lol you’re a proper retard

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 13:51:06 2019 No.4039543 >>4039462 Haven’t checked yet. I still have 3 perspective videos to go though, and hey, maybe they have good tips there. But so far, it’s a very very hard sell. Maybe the upcoming ones from Karl kopinski or miss jisu will be better

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 14:15:18 2019 No.4039579

>>4037526
Sounds like you're trying hard to rationalize that you didn't get scammed. And you definitely did based on what I'm seeing.

You can learn this stuff in other materials for a lot fucking cheaper.

Sorry, anon. Try asking for a refund if you can.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 14:29:43 2019 No.4039593 >>4039417 >>4039543 Any chance you can upload it to youtube unlisted or a mega, or something like that? We would be very appreciative of you.

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 14:32:02 2019 No.4039597

Anyone who is actually decent at drawing knows that there isn't really any secret to how Kim draws. When you look at what any master teaches it all just comes down to understanding the fundamentals, every single time. This is what Kim's course covers as well but overpriced and perhaps not so in-depth. If you don't know what the fundamentals are that are behind drawing complex characters like Kim does then you should learn a lot from it however its not like you can't learn the same stuff elsewhere for cheaper.

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 15:10:03 2019 No.4039669
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>>4039579
Nah, check my other post after that, I was most definitely scammed. The value of the tips is around 50 dollars at most really. Still have 4 videos to go, but not holding my breath

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 15:12:55 2019 No.4039674 >>4039669 can you give a bullet points list of tips you got from the course when you finish ?kinda pointless to download the whole course when it get leaked just to see him draw

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 15:17:32 2019 No.4039681 >>4039674 Yes planning to do that, potentially even sharing it if there is good stuff/ tips at the end. Don’t want other anons to get scammed, as 170 dollars can be a lot a money

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 15:17:54 2019 No.4039685

>>4039597
to be honest and unironically, all best art resources are already available online for free.
Maybe less so for painting and color in general, but you don't even need to pirate shit to get all your fundies for free.
Even that japanese loomis has all his works readily available for free in his site. and then the best deep perspective resources are also free.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 15:24:22 2019 No.4039696 >>4039685 The issue with free resources is lack of guidance or continuity since the information you will find is scarce and some even wrong.Paid courses usually have a clear path in them and assignments so you don’t get lost.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 15:28:06 2019 No.4039703 >>4039696 the two i cited actually have an easy to follow and logical structure. And you are right, they're rough around the edges, but the info is gold. That guy nakamura teaches construction in a very clear and simple to follow way

Anonymous Sun Jul 28 15:52:38 2019 No.4039742

>>4039696
Exactly. You get what you pay for for the most part. And if you're serious about learning in the most efficient way possible then randomly watching free youtube videos just isn't going to cut it.

However on the other side of the spectrum you have courses like this that are very expensive just because of Kim's reputation as a drawing wizard

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 15:58:01 2019 No.4039750 >>4039703 Can you share links to the free resources you mentioned?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 17:15:58 2019 No.4039938 >>4039669 >>4039681 You’re a good lad anon. Thanks for helping the rest of us out.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 18:30:12 2019 No.4040035 >>4039669 Sorry, dude. It sucks to get ripped like that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 28 18:31:34 2019 No.4040037 >>4039685 They are all either for free or super cheap. Even critiques are getting cheaper nowadays.

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 02:59:59 2019 No.4040583

>>4033397
Just checked out the site and they apparently have a free character design thing up by both Terada and KJG. Kinda fun to see them draw but they're both just rambling about stuff while drawing and not really teaching anything. Kinda sucks cause I'm a huge fan of these guys' art but the "courses" seem like cheap cash grabs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 04:00:06 2019 No.4040614 File: 2.84 MB, 1334x750, 34CF5412-FAA9-45D9-8326-77B57500A952.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4040583 That’s what you are getting with the paid course, he barely speaks by the end of the course. Almost done with the lessons

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 04:53:58 2019 No.4040634 >>4039750 for sure breh >perspective https://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/tech10.html >Jap loomis translated website https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asahi-net.or.jp%2F~zm5s-nkmr%2Findex.html

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 05:42:18 2019 No.4040656 >>4040634 damn I've just be skimming through the second resource. This looks exactly like what I've been looking for. thanks anon.

Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:44:51 2019 No.4040886

>>4040656
it's so weird nakamura's stuff isn't shilled more often here considering all the weeabos.
He's a clearer and better structured loomis who even gives notes on anime shit and never leaves details out of his explanations.
Even though loomis is a better artist , this guy is a much greaert teacher imo

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 10:46:57 2019 No.4040888 >>4040886 I make sure to mention hitokaku whenever I can to counter that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:19:48 2019 No.4040907 >>4040886 Hitokaku is shilled but anime tards and any beg tards don't actually put in work because they're too autistic to realize practicing at something makes you better. So the art doesn't look like anime after 2 drawings and they just crab after.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:35:18 2019 No.4040925 >>4037427 >this little line of mine

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 11:42:17 2019 No.4040934 >>4037526 Not to sound rude or anything, but you don't seem to be in a position to know if this can be helpful to you or nog because you obviously have a lot of trouble drawing from imagination in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 12:08:44 2019 No.4040974 >>4033397 Still not downloadable somewhere ? They should have put the price at $30 so everybody could afford it. Fucking retarded

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 15:25:41 2019 No.4041234 >>4033397 I have three of his sketchbooks and a signed copy of Spy Games and even I think this is kind of overpriced, probably not worth it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:10:51 2019 No.4041293 File: 2.35 MB, 3024x3024, 4E0F26A9-3230-4C24-83AB-699FB2D3C5EB.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4040934 I have some basic chops. Just trying to improve my perspective and brush game

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:36:41 2019 No.4041329 >>4040634 >ttps://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/tech10.html this site is NASTY

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 16:58:08 2019 No.4041374 >>4041329 Why? skimmed through it an it looks solid.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:00:43 2019 No.4041379 Over priced and probably not worth it as fuck but i would still pirate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:23:36 2019 No.4041403 >>4041329 is that a good thing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 17:34:46 2019 No.4041415 >>4041329 >>4041374 >>4041403 the site is good. It also has one of the most comprehensive color theory instruction ever in print/online/ paid or not. But he gets into very heavy scientific explanations so it's hard to digest

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 18:42:53 2019 No.4041551 File: 68 KB, 750x750, 1563398326311.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Pyw

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 29 19:50:43 2019 No.4041680 >>4041293 You will definitely make it -- just need to improve on figures :) -- Hope you'll share the course soon :)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 00:56:43 2019 No.4042159 >>4040634 Thanks for sharing!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 01:22:26 2019 No.4042182 File: 50 KB, 380x380, 1543538529295.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4039213 sad but true

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 04:23:33 2019 No.4042309
File: 2.60 MB, 1334x750, 720BF148-3594-498A-90AC-07667C8A514A.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Almost done with the content, final review coming soon. Also, not a tech wiz, what would be the best way of sharing this with you guys? The videos are embedded in the website

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 04:36:28 2019 No.4042320 >>4042309 Probably the easiest way for you would be to use Video Downloader Professional, just look it up it's a chrome extension, should work ez pz -- thanks anon :)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 04:45:53 2019 No.4042325 >>4036724 retard

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 04:50:53 2019 No.4042326 based off the visuals it looks like a lot of what he teaches you can probably learn better from Proko and ModernDayJames videos and reading Scott Robertson books

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 05:06:46 2019 No.4042341 >>4042320 Thanks anon, but that chrome extension does not find any video on the website. The videos are embedded in a platform called wistia

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 05:15:31 2019 No.4042349 >>4042320 Ignore my reply. I just dowloaded the first video.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 06:08:49 2019 No.4042376 File: 91 KB, 610x678, kimjungsoy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4033397 >wanting to learn from a bald fuck that doesn't draw anything other than porn and the same, stale animals/vehicles/weapons

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 06:13:26 2019 No.4042385 >>4042376 Such sour grapes

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 06:17:33 2019 No.4042392 >>4042385 He's right though, there is nothing impressive about his work other than technical skill.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 06:18:56 2019 No.4042396 >>4042392 Yeah no, everything outside of technical skill is subjective dummy

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 07:07:56 2019 No.4042440 >>4042326 >ModernDayJames no

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 07:58:02 2019 No.4042493

Anons that bought the course, i suggest you to write a review/critique of it flaws, and send it to the course provider.

Some one mentioned that there is more courses coming from them with Karl Kopinski and Miss Jisu and if you hit them with bit of truth they may made new ones better, because you ae actual paying customer and you shit on them.

make it not butthurt but constructive criticizm, like:
-I barely felt actual "teaching" there was more of teacher drawing and some tips
-Sound quality is bad
-Camera is not flat to the paper, it makes it harder to digest
-Teacher was eating during drawing. It may have distracted him from sharing his thoughts because he was busy doing other thing

Stuff like that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 08:06:30 2019 No.4042504 >>4042309 Recording your screen with OBS is the option that always works if nothing else does.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 08:23:41 2019 No.4042526

>>4042493
Yes, I will do that. I was the one who said the there were new courses coming up. Kim’s technique is amazing, and it’s a shame that he is really not the best teacher, at least In this context. And while he starts more or less strong on the head section, he just starts talking less and less. Plus the poor camera angles.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 09:46:37 2019 No.4042619

>>4039742
I'd argue that if you're not equipped to find the information in a relatively quick manner (Literally a few days of googling) then i'd question your general aptitude to learn the material anyway. That is to say I value curiosity and inquisitiveness over a lot of things and that those traits will better you in the longrun.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 10:21:18 2019 No.4042648 kjg going full teacher cash grab. get ready to see this shit spammed until it gets scanned and people learn there's no secret to perspective but practice https://twitter.com/kimjunggidirect/status/1156144457349324800

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 10:36:11 2019 No.4042665 >>4042648 That book isn't by KJG. The absolute state of /ic/'s reading comprehension.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 12:26:30 2019 No.4042817 >>4042349 Nice! Thanks a lot anon :)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 12:43:19 2019 No.4042849 >>4037526 >there's another swissbro on /ic/ >same city godspeed

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 13:27:09 2019 No.4042924 File: 83 KB, 737x809, E4192AF8-BBA6-465A-BCF5-3939AEDA37B6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Just finished the stuff. Overall I’m disappointed. Here are the contents

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 13:55:38 2019 No.4042947

I can tell you why Kim Jung Gi isn't a good teacher. He is drawing since childhood. He developed awareness of drawing, its fundamentals and everything that involves learning how to draw at a much later stage.

Contrary to popular beliefs the best teachers are not the ones who have lifelong experience, but the ones that started learning with a high amount of awareness regarding themselves and the topic they are learning. Kim Jung Gi doesn't know how he became good. That's why really great artists always tend to say to just draw when being asking for tips, the specifics got lost under thousands of drawings.

He also just doesn't have experience as a teacher. Someone can become a good teacher just by seeing what works and what doesn't for his students but Kim Jung Gi doesn't have that experience.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 14:32:21 2019 No.4042997 >>4042924 record and upload please anon

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 14:54:43 2019 No.4043029

>>4042947
>Kim Jung Gi doesn't know how he became good. That's why really great artists always tend to say to just draw when being asking for tips, the specifics got lost under thousands of drawings.
Are you suggesting that talent is real? Because it's not. KJG studied Loomis, Bridgman, Hamm and whatever else was available to him. He didn't become this good out of nowhere or without outside help. Anyone can learn how to draw like him given enough time.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 14:59:26 2019 No.4043034

>>4043029
I didn't imply that at all even though talent obviously exists. I basically said that he isn't aware of what exactly he did to become as good as he is.

We don't need to talk about talent when it comes to pure mechanical skill, anyone can get pretty good in that.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 16:19:38 2019 No.4043164
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Contents part two. I’ll share the vids soon, one by one. Also, completely unrelated, does anyone have a link to Toru Yoshidas drawing women In 10 minutes?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 16:23:33 2019 No.4043168 >>4043029 >talent isnt real >anyone can learn how to draw like him given enough time someone show this man a bell curve

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 16:23:53 2019 No.4043170

>>4043034
No, Kim outlines a lot of what he did to get as good as he is in his Proko interview video. Watch that. Saying he don't know what he did to get as good as he is pretty absurd... At one point he says he had done a lot more drawing than people think he has.

I think he just doesn't give a fuck about teaching and cares more about drawing than talking about it. This course seems just like something he done because his agent told him to do because it would make money.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 16:31:57 2019 No.4043181

>>4043168
if you practiced drawing as much as you made excuses you'd be as good as KJG by now. all he does is draw in fisheye perspective with a brush pen. he's not the first to do it and he won't be the last. everything you need to learn has already been published. yes, his work looks cool but it's nothing beyond the abilities of the average person.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 16:34:03 2019 No.4043183 >>4043164 Checked CGpeers and couldn't find it -- sorry anon -- looking forward to the videos

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 16:40:38 2019 No.4043189

>>4043181
>>4043181

Funny how there is a proven talent distribution in every other field but magically not in drawing. Actually, the way he draws is quite remarkable - starting from any where on the canvas, realizing full compositions while working out anatomy, drapery and perspective etc. on the fly directly in ink with virtually no visible mistakes.There are many artist that can get to a similar result but not by working in the same manner.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 16:52:46 2019 No.4043206

>>4043189
>Funny how there is a proven talent distribution in every other field but magically not in drawing.
because talent is just an excuse for people not wanting to practice. if you have a working hand and good enough vision, you can draw like KJG with enough practice. there's nothing magical about it, stop trying to cope.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 16:59:35 2019 No.4043214

>>4043189

He makes mistakes all the time. He just covers them up and the average person doesn't have an eye to spot it.

Source: Himself. During a live Q&A

He's very good at recovering when he makes an error and those errors are often lost in the overall composition anyway because he's detail oriented and there's usually a lot going on.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 17:08:44 2019 No.4043224 >>4043170 Not really. He says literally the same things as everyone else who has no idea what they did in the proko vid. Just throwing around general ideas he probably read in books.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 17:11:15 2019 No.4043229

>>4043206
Fuck off you dumb nigger. If you can't keep on practicing the moment you accept the reality of talent you would have never made it anyway. Dumb projecting bitch, always with that retarding "cope" shit. Most of us who accepted talent as a fact don't use it as an excuse, we just accept reality and keep trying because even though talent exists you can't really tell it's there or not with low skill.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 17:13:36 2019 No.4043230 >>4042947 >He also just doesn't have experience as a teacher. didn't he teach art at university in korea?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 17:15:00 2019 No.4043232 >>4043230 He gave some lectures but that's it. Universities are always inviting experts to give lectures.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 17:34:19 2019 No.4043262 >>4043229 the fuck

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 17:35:21 2019 No.4043265 So anon, can you summarize the stuff?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 17:59:37 2019 No.4043306 interview with him where he talks a bit about the course lol. that part is very scant on details https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6afISe2IyU

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 18:02:39 2019 No.4043310

>>4043306
He just says that the owner of the website had "some dirt" on him and that's why he was forced to do it lmao. It's possible he's just joking/language barrier thing but he says it with a completely straight face. That explains why the "course" is so awful.

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 18:13:13 2019 No.4043336

>>4043229
> Most of us who accepted talent as a fact don't use it as an excuse, we just accept reality and keep trying
that's the literal definition of a cope anon
sorry you feel that you'll never reach KJG level. if you believe in yourself more you can get there. stop looking for the easy way out. talent isn't real, it's just something made up by arrogant pros to discourage weak minded beginners from getting into the market

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 18:18:59 2019 No.4043350 >>4043229 cope cope *cope

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 18:21:13 2019 No.4043355 >>4043229 tbf some ppl have learning disability so maybe you are one of those ppl. gl anon

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 18:35:57 2019 No.4043372

>>4043224
>Master artist actually doesn't know what he did to get good
Do you know how retarded this sounds? Stop being triggered when anyone says "just draw" and use your brain. Kim can draw like he does precisely because he has spent so much time drawing things from observation and memory.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 18:50:11 2019 No.4043382 >>4043372 You're too dumb to understand the difference between general advice and the specific recreation of a process.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 18:54:39 2019 No.4043386 >>4043382 Literally just watch the thousand videos of him drawing to see his process or do you need help figuring out how to put a pencil to paper you idiot?

Anonymous Tue Jul 30 19:00:42 2019 No.4043391

>>4043386
You're too much of a beginner to understand that people that can draw construct in their head, retard. You merely see the final lines and not how Kim Jung Gi sees his picture. Hell Kim Jung Gi doesn't even see it anymore, it's purely in his subconcious.

How can someone so ignorant and mentally challenged like you even exist?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 19:03:33 2019 No.4043395 >>4043214 >He makes mistakes all the time. He just covers them up and the average person doesn't have an eye to spot it. That's my point. Almost no one else alive can draw directly in ink with that kind of complexity with so little mistakes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 19:09:10 2019 No.4043405 >>4043391 if you actually drew it wouldn't seem so much like magic to your primitive brain

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 19:16:51 2019 No.4043412 File: 81 KB, 500x334, 1503528635168.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4043391 >You merely see the final lines and not how Kim Jung Gi sees his picture. Hell Kim Jung Gi doesn't even see it anymore, it's purely in his subconcious.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 21:35:09 2019 No.4043520 >>4043395 Modern Day James comes pretty close. If he keeps going he will match and surpass KJG in his lifetime.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 21:39:32 2019 No.4043525 >>4043520 his imagination work is much worse than kjg it have no soul.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 21:39:45 2019 No.4043526 >>4043520 I used to really enjoy James' work, but there's a lack of appeal now that I just can't explain, I'm not sure how he lost it so quickly and with so much more practice than he was putting in before.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 22:05:24 2019 No.4043557 >>4043526 He's very good at drawing but if he narrowed his focus to few certain subjects instead of drawing literally everything randomly all the while changing the style he's emulating his artwork would become a lot more powerful and appealing

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 22:33:22 2019 No.4043581 >>4043412 >laughing at the One

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 23:32:55 2019 No.4043659 >>4043581 more like laughing at brainlets who thing KJG is some kinda mystical being as opposed to just a guy who drew so much he became really good at it (shocking!)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 23:40:11 2019 No.4043673 >>4043659 Kim literally draws while he eats while any sane person would take a break. That's how he got so good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 30 23:56:19 2019 No.4043695 >>4043395 I literally just said he makes mistakes all the time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 01:36:52 2019 No.4043803 Videos coming soon, been busy and I cannot access Mega on my work computer

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 01:37:59 2019 No.4043806 >>4043803 Take your time, appreciate ya anon!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 02:06:14 2019 No.4043834 >>4043803 Thanks anon, can't wait :)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 02:11:11 2019 No.4043844 >>4043803 monitoring this thread

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 05:21:55 2019 No.4043958 >>4043029 No he's suggesting that he can't remember how he learned in enough detail to tell you how to replicate it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 05:32:24 2019 No.4043964 https://mega.nz/#!OuojgCTR!ss6taH5xuq6NscZ8tsydDzKn0Ov-qEP7HtFCEWw2Dec

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 05:33:21 2019 No.4043965 .bin?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 05:35:12 2019 No.4043967 >>4043965 Just open with windows media

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 06:25:36 2019 No.4043995 >>4043964 thanks anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 06:26:28 2019 No.4043996 >>4043964 shoo shoo virus chan

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 06:36:56 2019 No.4044003 >>4043964 I don't think it's working for me? :/

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 06:56:48 2019 No.4044018 >>4043964 so is this the first part of the lecture? You gonna mine crypto through this file??

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 07:26:35 2019 No.4044033 >>4043964 is this safe?

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 07:30:22 2019 No.4044038

No crypto mining, it’s the second video of the lecture (the first one is available for free on YouTube). It’s a bin file, after downloading from the website. I didn’t convert it to anything, it’s the file as is. I was able to open it with windows media player. There’s no crypto because I don’t even know how to set that up. Someone download it and see if opens on a media player. It’s working for me and I’m not a tech wiz

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 07:43:32 2019 No.4044049 >>4044003 I'm this anon, got it to work with VLC media player :)

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 07:57:22 2019 No.4044073 >>4044038 I was jk m8 I thank you very much

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 08:20:54 2019 No.4044114 >>4044038 >the first one is available for free on YouTube this? https://youtu.be/j6afISe2IyU

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 08:24:37 2019 No.4044120 >>4044114 No, this: https://youtu.be/2e_rMLwC_rw

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 08:31:14 2019 No.4044127 >>4043964 >>4043965 Renaming the file to .mp4 will do just fine.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 09:19:46 2019 No.4044197 >>4043964 the others when?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 09:29:07 2019 No.4044208 >>4043964 damn its trash, i feel bad for everyone that paid for it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 09:35:19 2019 No.4044219 I will be posting the others as I have the time. Sorry for not posting all of them at once, but I have to download them individually through a boring method

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 09:36:24 2019 No.4044220 thanks for sharing

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 09:38:00 2019 No.4044222 >>4044208 This is actually one of the better videos! The quality of the instructions just goes downhill once he gets to the full body

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 09:41:12 2019 No.4044225 it is playing directly in VLC. no extraction needed.

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 10:06:00 2019 No.4044259
File: 50 KB, 803x332, JustDoThisAHundredTimes.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

It's literally "start with the eyebrown, add head shape, ear shows the perspective" etc. + do it a bunch of times to get it look better and better not like atelier type artists who I feel use a different approach every time (the gesture never follows the same pattern, I think only vilppu tends to start from the head, but he still makes non analytical lines here and there)

I do agree that it's not worth it's price but come on, this IS helpful. I can now do at least decent heads. (with help of many other resources and his other videos)

Thanks anon! Looking forward to the figure videos

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 10:10:22 2019 No.4044272 >>4044259 wait, thats yours?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 10:11:40 2019 No.4044274 >>4044272 The pic related, yes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 10:13:37 2019 No.4044280 >>4044274 >pic related >its a gif

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 10:14:59 2019 No.4044284 loomis books are better than this shiz

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 10:17:18 2019 No.4044287 >>4044280 ...moving pic related?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 10:19:26 2019 No.4044290 >>4044287 successive pics related

Anonymous Wed Jul 31 10:23:09 2019 No.4044296

>>4043520

He's very good for the time he's been drawing, he first learned of Bridgman from a Proko video fro God's sake. But to pretend that he's even in the same universe as KJG is silly. But I'm not a fortune teller so who knows where he'll be in ten years, or even five.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 10:24:14 2019 No.4044299 >>4043695 And I said they are comparatively miniscule, which it what makes him stand out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 11:19:59 2019 No.4044357 >>4044259 this is good drawing

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 11:43:11 2019 No.4044372 >>4044357 Thanks, I really appreciate it. I think it's good enough for the time being. I'd like to train mileage with traditional mediums more. But yeah, I'd say that KJG and MDJ have helped me more than the usually recommended sources.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 31 16:27:19 2019 No.4044747 >>4043964 >Start with the eyebrow This was actually a pretty helpful, dumb little tip for practicing straight up in biro. Thanks for sharing anon.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 08:16:05 2019 No.4045758 >>4043964 bump

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 08:45:30 2019 No.4045776 >>4033397 His colleague Jisu at superani often does the draw the eyebrows first thing, I think she's picked up a thing or two from KJG. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqqG4OFZh9M

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 08:55:33 2019 No.4045789 More soon folks, hopefully today. Sorry, but work got in the way

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 10:45:03 2019 No.4045912 File: 2.19 MB, 1569x828, 1541449804647.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4045789 Thanks, man

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 11:48:26 2019 No.4045998 >>4045789 Thank you, tyt

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 13:51:02 2019 No.4046214 thanks for the effort .TYT.

Anonymous Thu Aug 1 14:10:04 2019 No.4046257

>>4043232
Nah he was already lecturing way before he got super famous and all. In one interview he mentioned that he started doing direct drawings to make doing demos in lectures easier, and his experience as a lecturer is what helped him jumpstart & improve his direct drawing skills.

>>	Anonymous Thu Aug 1 18:26:51 2019 No.4046669 >>4045789 Thank you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 08:00:29 2019 No.4047539 bamp

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 08:47:17 2019 No.4047586 It's not like Kim Jung Gi does outstanding faces or humans to begin with. He is celebrated for his freehand drawing and composition skills, there is not much else to him.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 10:35:01 2019 No.4047680 Thanks

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 11:52:43 2019 No.4047794 >>4039685 Japanese Loomis?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 12:38:32 2019 No.4047859 >>4047794 i think he is talking about toshi, not even close to beign loomis but his references are pretty usefull. you can find his works in pixiv. But again, not 100%sure if he is talking about toshi

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 14:07:11 2019 No.4047971 >>4047859 He was talking about Hitokaku Index

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 20:48:40 2019 No.4048431 File: 574 KB, 778x856, Screen Shot 2019-08-02 at 8.47.44 PM.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] New course by one of Kim Jung Gi's friends/boss -- looks a bit more reasonable priced but not sure if worth it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 21:31:43 2019 No.4048478 >>4048431 there is a course with terada and kim for free could any of you upload it to mega?

Anonymous Fri Aug 2 21:41:42 2019 No.4048498

>>4047586
I agree. I don’t understand why he would make a course about anatomy when there’s a billion other ones out there that blow his course out of the water. Why not make a course about what you’re known for and what no one else teaches? Same with this guy >>4048431 his watercolor stuff is nice, why not make a course on watercolor since those are somewhat rare instead of the billionth course on drawing a fucking skull?

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 21:44:02 2019 No.4048501 >>4048498 Because it's a ponzi scheme. "For beginners" or amateur courses are for those who are too retarded and want to just wow their friends on Facebook. Most have no desire of getting into the industry of their choice.

Anonymous Fri Aug 2 23:08:52 2019 No.4048572

>>4048478
I might do it, but why don't you just "sign up" yourself? I didn't need to enter any information other than one of my burner emails. Also, is the guy who bought it still around? Can you give us an update? No rush just hoping it doesn't turn out like the Stonehouse anatomy notebook

>>	Anonymous Fri Aug 2 23:55:09 2019 No.4048623 Oh man I bet he was against it. Honestly, anyone that watches him talk about his drawings will see that his secret technique is drawing whatever he wants whenever he wants all day nonstop

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 03:44:52 2019 No.4048761 >>4048572 Still here mate. New video today in around 1 hour

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 04:48:02 2019 No.4048789 >>4048761 Thanks pal :)

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 04:49:06 2019 No.4048790 Third video here (remember , the first one is free on youtube) https://mega.nz/#!nvASgK5J!zP-7geRq_a1zY9KywEiDk8Z86Cfxkv0AkOHgxK3XxMA Also, does anyone have a link to bridgman constructive anatomy?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 04:53:06 2019 No.4048791 >>4048790 Thank you anon. Here's Bridgman Constructive Anatomy https://www107.zippyshare.com/v/4jxJiNXY/file.html

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 04:56:49 2019 No.4048794 >>4048791 Much appreciated! Fourth video tomorrow hopefully! Keep in mind the quality of the instruction starts to go down as the classes progress

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 05:13:31 2019 No.4048809 >>4048790 Awesome possum, thanks anon :)

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 05:35:55 2019 No.4048822 >>4042440 why not? besides him being an annoying lanky fuck.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 06:08:05 2019 No.4048841 >>4048790 Thanks anon. Are you posting them out of order? (the link you sent is for the fourth part of the lecture going by the length shown on the site)

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 06:15:43 2019 No.4048847 >>4033397 >So KJG has an online course now. It's pretty expensive and imo not worth the full price for it's length. Did anyone buy it? Thoughts? How do you know?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 07:26:45 2019 No.4048887 >>4048847 Saw it on youtube.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 08:32:50 2019 No.4048928 >>4043964 >>4048790 thanks broanon

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 10:18:20 2019 No.4049011 >>4048790 This is a good tip but also something you're likely to come across as you draw enough. People always underestimate overlap.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 11:41:41 2019 No.4049105 >>4048790 Thanks a lot for sharing anon bro

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 11:43:11 2019 No.4049106 Here is an unpopular but true reality. YOU CANT BUY YOURSELF INTO BEING A BETTER ARTIST. IF YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND BASICS YOU WONT UNDERSTAND KJG.

Anonymous Sat Aug 3 11:46:38 2019 No.4049116

>>4034017
Notice how you can see the SOLES OF HIS FEET? You’re stupid and the only reason you dont understand a worms eye perspective is because you spend all day drawing anime dollies straight on just standing there in pretty clothes. Get back to your anime dollies you jap Barbie loving bitch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 12:41:24 2019 No.4049188 >>4048794 thats sad to know. by the way, if this thread reach bump limit in what thread will you gona post the links?

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 13:29:31 2019 No.4049246 >>4049188 Either a new thread or a KJG thread that pops up. Hopefully someone will be able to compile all and keep sharing

>>	Anonymous Sat Aug 3 22:28:05 2019 No.4049793 If this is part 1 https://mega.nz/#!OuojgCTR!ss6taH5xuq6NscZ8tsydDzKn0Ov-qEP7HtFCEWw2Dec And this is part 3 https://mega.nz/#!nvASgK5J!zP-7geRq_a1zY9KywEiDk8Z86Cfxkv0AkOHgxK3XxMA Where is part 2? Facial Features

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 01:56:21 2019 No.4049924 >>4049793 those are part 2 a 3 The part 1 is for free

Anonymous Sun Aug 4 03:13:43 2019 No.4049985

>>4049924
Nah intro is free (on youtube) the amazing anon uploaded
part 1 into to drawing the human head (10.58)
part 3 Drawing the head from different perspectives (7.55)

part 2 is not currently uploaded it is Drawing the facial features (24.22)
>>4043964
Thanks bro any resources you want that we can try and get you ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 04:30:47 2019 No.4050041 Can someone share all of Kim books in digital version?

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 09:20:46 2019 No.4050255 >>4048790 Thank you!

Anonymous Sun Aug 4 12:23:33 2019 No.4050419

>>4049985
Ahaha I might have uploaded them out of order. I’ll check later today and upload the missing part. Sorry for the really sporadic updates, been traveling for work and time is limited. I would like to have all videos up on mega by the end of the week

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 13:38:42 2019 No.4050515 >>4049985 what the fuck is a bin file

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 14:26:45 2019 No.4050566 >>4050515 ebin :DDD

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 15:14:36 2019 No.4050611 >>4050515 just change .bin to .mp4

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 15:22:24 2019 No.4050618 >>4049985 Also, I asked for the bridgman constructive anatomy book and someone shared it. Also asked for the toru yoshida drawing women in 10 minutes but no one had it, but it’s ok.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 15:28:13 2019 No.4050623 >>4050515 A file you put in the bin.

>>	Anonymous Sun Aug 4 19:59:28 2019 No.4050925 >>4048790 appreciate it, anon!

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 07:45:52 2019 No.4051492 >>4050419 Are you planing on buying any of the other courses or has this one soured you on them?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 10:53:49 2019 No.4051610 >>4051492 Got a bit soured, though I might be tempted to buy the miss jisu one

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 11:10:26 2019 No.4051634 >>4051610 i, too, want to buy miss jisu LOL

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 11:28:59 2019 No.4051656 Thanks!

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 11:30:42 2019 No.4051661 >>4050419 Thanks! =)

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 11:38:48 2019 No.4051670 >>4051610 Is it available? Can't find it on the website

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 12:08:43 2019 No.4051713 >>4051670 Not yet available, I think it’s by the end of the year

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 12:14:58 2019 No.4051719 >>4050419 Link?

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 14:07:22 2019 No.4051845 >>4050419 dont die thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 17:01:25 2019 No.4052056 bump

>>	Anonymous Mon Aug 5 17:48:40 2019 No.4052117 >>4052056 Sorry guys, still only have my work computer at the moment, and mega is blocked by the company. Even if the thread dies I’ll create a new thread, just be patient, sorry

Anonymous Mon Aug 5 18:05:37 2019 No.4052125
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>>4044259
It still was very helpful (similar to MDJ, way more helpful than "feel the gesture"). I think i'm slowly getting it. Thanks OP! Waiting for the figure tuts so I can add a figure to the head.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 02:47:41 2019 No.4052621 >>4052117 No problem bro, appreciate it. No stress.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 03:14:55 2019 No.4052646 >>4052125 Wow, that's really great -- I have a lot of trouble making the eyes feel "embedded" into the face, do you have tips?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 05:39:30 2019 No.4052774 >>4052117 good, I was bumping to keep the thread alive for you btw thx anon, and I believe I speak in the name of countless other lurkers too

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 07:20:21 2019 No.4052851 >>4052646 Post into the beg/draw thread and let me see.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 07:31:52 2019 No.4052859 >>4036983 Where do you go to find good courses?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 07:47:50 2019 No.4052874 >>4034217 hahaha this people keep saying he's shit and for what? ultimately the only worth that comes out of talking about kjg is whether or not you can learn something from him to improve your own art, and yet, here we are

Anonymous Tue Aug 6 08:15:49 2019 No.4052901

Hi guys, managed to upload two new videos from the course. See below for all the videos I uploaded so far:

part 1
https://mega.nz/#!OuojgCTR!ss6taH5xuq6NscZ8tsydDzKn0Ov-qEP7HtFCEWw2Dec

part 2
https://mega.nz/#!L24EHYyS!UI9YZlKo7iSbN7I09x0zoWax80lAYnw7cW0JhLuOVU4

part 3

https://mega.nz/#!nvASgK5J!zP7geRq_a1zY9KywEiDk8Z86Cfxkv0AkOHgxK3XxMA

part 4
https://mega.nz/#!7uhSkARS!1xbmP4CD5-apToyZUgD6jzydwZHtz-79A_whFpM1fKE

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 08:25:55 2019 No.4052910 >>4052901 part 3 is encrypted, to download you need a key fix that anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 08:33:49 2019 No.4052917 >>4052910 See if this one works: https://mega.nz/#!nvASgK5J!zP-7geRq_a1zY9KywEiDk8Z86Cfxkv0AkOHgxK3XxMA

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 08:38:36 2019 No.4052923 >>4052917 thanks, it works

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 09:57:10 2019 No.4052997 is part 5 going to be uploaded soon?

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 10:30:49 2019 No.4053027 >>4052901 thanks a lot !!! anon bro

Anonymous Tue Aug 6 11:02:36 2019 No.4053068

>>4052125
>>4052851
Thanks for the offer but I haven't draw anything digital for a while -- can I ask how long you've been drawing/any advice you happen to have? Blog?
>>4052901
Anon, not a lot of appreciation for you in this thread, let me give a BIG THANKS!!!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 11:16:03 2019 No.4053079 >>4053068 No problem, and thank you! Part 5 soon hopefully

Anonymous Tue Aug 6 11:26:53 2019 No.4053096

>>4053068
You can post traditional too,

I've been drawing semi-seriously for like... 5 years, but there have been year long breaks not picking up the pen lol.

I'm studying music (singer) right now so drawing is just something I do when I have free time.

As in for advice... I know it's not popular advice, but the STUDYING methods of Riven Phoenix were very helpful to me in the beginning. His art is wonky and his anatomy is flawed, but I like the way he teaches to learn using formulas. (Check out Pencil4Anatomy on instagram, Onezukabin on youtube. They do similar things.)

Just pick better references to analyze using his methods. Also, KJG is right. The box (and basic forms) is important to understand. Pretty much what Peter Han teaches. My linework has always been decent, since I only drew with a ballpoint pen when I was a child (but I literally drew like a child up until I was like ... 17.18, when I started learning art very casually. I'm 24 now) I've never been good at drawing from references since I've always just memorized the forms and constructed.

To me, this course has been very helpful since it's literally my thought process (even the obstacles he said he has faced have/are been the same for me)

Tl;dr things that have helped me the most

- Riven Phoenix's study methods (not his drawing) (also Onezukabin)
- Understanding the basic forms (ModernDayJames, Peter Han, Kim Jung Gi, Krenz)

Things that have helped me the least:

- Gesture drawing and quick sketching (since I don't like drawing fast and loose. I lose "the zone")

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 11:28:01 2019 No.4053098 >>4053096 Also, Blog: https://www.instagram.com/sattiasmimsonartwork/ I don't have anything posted yet. Would love to share some fundamental tips in the future that have helped me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Aug 6 12:49:58 2019 No.4053195 Anon that deliver - you're a god among men. Thanks a lot for the uploads so far, waiting for the rest!!

Anonymous Tue Aug 6 12:50:47 2019 No.4053198
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>>4053096
Thanks for this advice, I hate to spam this image so often but here's the last digital study I conducted (the traditional drawings are Bargue plates). A lot of what you said really resonates with the way I think, namely your comment about "feeling the flow" and "gesture" being kind of silly advice that I just can't grasp. I've been studying for about 8 months and I don't see it as something that I'll ever employ since I don't like any artists who use it as a method (nor can I see myself understanding what it means). I drew (still draw) like a child now as well, and I'm 22, but I really hope to improve. I use all of the guys you mention except for Riven Phoenix, I'll look into him, it looks like our tastes/thought processes are very similar (yours and mine). Drawing from reference for me is very difficult, I have to employ methods that Bargue teaches, going very slowly, and even then it sometimes doesn't really work, I just don't have the "eye" for proportions, I feel like all of the decisions I make are the "right ones" and I think they are in some sense, I just don't have the dexterity to get them closer to what they should be, if that makes sense. With digital I'm a lot more comfortable since I can undo. I gave you >>4053098 a follow, looking forward to seeing your work.

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