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Anonymous Tue Jul 23 07:56:39 2019 No.4030376 [Reply] [Original]

How do Japanese artists use bright obnoxious colors but manage to keep it looking good?

This type of art seems to be extremely popular in the pixiv rankings

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 08:00:55 2019 No.4030384 >>4030376 Study color theory you lazy fuck

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 08:02:28 2019 No.4030386 >>4030376 values and color theory libtard.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 08:04:53 2019 No.4030388 >>4030376 because no actually rendering and flat simple shapes

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 08:12:49 2019 No.4030397 >>4030376 Special Japanese powers.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 08:25:15 2019 No.4030410 >>4030376 Sacrificing moe blob studios to the flame god

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 09:09:44 2019 No.4030453 >>4030388 I didn't think about that actually. That's a good point

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 09:12:49 2019 No.4030462 >>4030376 This artist is specifically using the Triad color scheme. Brush up on color theory a little bit more if you can.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 17:00:15 2019 No.4031093 You can use any colors you just need to use them consistently throughout the piece.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 23 17:04:34 2019 No.4031105 File: 990 KB, 990x1400, 1563882999073.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4030376 So this is the secret, huh

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 06:54:19 2019 No.4032197 Quite literally studying from jojo references

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 17:17:36 2019 No.4033177 >>4031105 you're a genius anon

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 19:42:12 2019 No.4033477 >>4031105 I don't get it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 19:47:47 2019 No.4033492 >>4031105 I'm very confused. when I color pick they all seemingly seem to have the same value. but after desaturation they appear to have different values?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 19:48:58 2019 No.4033494 >>4033492 Train your eyes bro

Anonymous Wed Jul 24 19:53:22 2019 No.4033509
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>>4033492
Different pure hues have different values. It's intuitive if you work traditionally that the yellow pigment looks lighter than the indigo, but seeing the hue/value slider in a drawing program kinda muddies it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 19:59:26 2019 No.4033532 It's fucking color theory you stupid fucking shit. Even the right side of the brain drawing granny has a book on it? What you need another japanese book for it? LOL

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 20:06:03 2019 No.4033551 >>4033477 with the right values, who gives a fuck what colors you use.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 20:16:34 2019 No.4033562 >>4033509 aah I see. that explains so much. Thank you, anon.

Anonymous Wed Jul 24 20:41:36 2019 No.4033604
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>>4030376
It's not about the values. Painters say get the values right and you can pick any color, and this gets misunderstood. If you're painting and especially if you're painting realism, values are king, colors are a secondary or tertiary in importance. This is true. But artists who work without value (cartoonists, graphic types) can still have great color harmonies. How can that be?
Even the OP is a fairly flat anime-style image with toon shading. Most of the value contrast is local, i.e. the inherent difference between a black object and a red one under the same lighting. I highly doubt this artist even thought much about his/her values in this case.

The truth is, you can get away with all kinds of funky color combos if the drawing is good and you don't have absolutely shit taste. I'm talking stuff beyond even the traditional complementary, triadic, and so on. This piece though is almost entirely reds, blues, and yellows. Black and white go with everything and balance out the image.

You should read up on color theory like others said, but to start, use more gray. Using colors in their more desaturated state and building up in areas of emphasis is a great way to internalize how color harmony really works. Pic related (also uses a narrow value range).

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 20:48:31 2019 No.4033616 File: 30 KB, 259x194, el_risitas.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4030410

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 20:49:54 2019 No.4033619 File: 1.06 MB, 527x9074, 1557061228862.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4030376 Reminds me of this post John K made on his blog about how impressed be was of the way Japanese can use color

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 20:53:03 2019 No.4033625 >>4033619 This always kills me because he has actual god-tier works of lighting & color harmony like FLCL and Cowby Bebop alongside plebshit like Ikki Tousen. As a result he's hard to take seriously but his main point is not really wrong.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 21:03:13 2019 No.4033641 >>4030376 There are big masses of neutral colors in between the bits of bright colors. The most used color here is the skin tones and white.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 21:19:38 2019 No.4033662 File: 1.59 MB, 990x1400, 74663977_p0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Their art seems to be very busy, yet appealing. Any explanation for that as well? Thank you all for the suggestions

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 21:22:29 2019 No.4033669 File: 1.70 MB, 919x1300, 69988918_p0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4033662 another example

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 22:06:52 2019 No.4033720 >>4033662 Damn this one is good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 22:11:05 2019 No.4033726 >>4033662 good composition; that's it

Anonymous Wed Jul 24 22:16:55 2019 No.4033731

>>4033662
>Clear focal points of face, with hair/arms framing face and the simple anime face being an easy resting spot from all the visual noise in the background
>Background is uniformly busy, no area is significantly more high-detail/complicated than the rest meaning it does not look distracting
>Clear value contrast, so image is easy to read
>Color palette is mostly warm with blue accents, making for a unified look
So basically what >>4033726 said

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 24 22:26:46 2019 No.4033742 >>4033619 This blog post is pretty based, too bad John K is a total fuck. Makes me wish there was an alternate timeline where he's just a crazy cartoonbro

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 03:17:15 2019 No.4034034 >>4033742 what's wrong with john k?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 03:56:33 2019 No.4034057 >>4034034 https://youtu.be/nH54JGZjzRI

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 03:58:33 2019 No.4034059 >>4033742 Lambs don't become lions.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 25 04:09:43 2019 No.4034074 >>4030376 >what is color theory >what are books Dumbass.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 07:00:50 2019 No.4035993 File: 404 KB, 905x1280, photo_2019-07-26_11-48-59.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4030376 Fixed the obnoxious colouring for you anons.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 07:21:30 2019 No.4036021 File: 18 KB, 905x1280, 1564138850851.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4035993 Gonna help you out by removing the other distracting elements. Now we can all enjoy this wonderful image.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 26 07:38:24 2019 No.4036044 >>4036021 Perfection, now this. THIS is art

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 27 17:47:24 2019 No.4038388 >>4030376 Anime tiddies

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